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Speaker 1: with Jason Vain on your home of Sport U Talks.

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Speaker 2: Hello, good afternoon, Kyna, and welcome into the Saturday edition

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Speaker 2: of Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB, April twenty six.

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Speaker 2: I hope the long weekend's going well, if in fact

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Speaker 2: you are enjoying one. I'm Jason Pine show producers. Today

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Speaker 2: is Bevan du We're here until three talking sport. Last

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Speaker 2: night at Cracker in christ Church Tower about a fact

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Speaker 2: take you here's.

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Speaker 3: Top tea, top tea.

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Speaker 4: I think there's gonna be any doubt about that one.

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Speaker 4: I was in an away and that they don't argue

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Speaker 4: with bed.

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Speaker 2: Time on his chest, left there and did the for.

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Speaker 5: Everyone to say.

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Speaker 2: Here a couple of tries for Adam Poppy last night.

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Speaker 2: He's on the show this hour. If you were there

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Speaker 2: on love to get the gauge from yours to how

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Speaker 2: it was, But the last time they play there at

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Speaker 2: that stadium, but next year and the brand new digs

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Speaker 2: in christ Church she'll be the warrior is playing down

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Speaker 2: there here. So christ Church based league fans be keen

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Speaker 2: to hear your thoughts on last night and in fact

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Speaker 2: anybody who watched the game. The Chiefs also doing the

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Speaker 2: damage at the unfamiliar surroundings of Bay Oval last night.

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Speaker 4: A boy gets the head going he's taken centimeters short

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Speaker 4: of the line. Nawa fancies himself at the half becks

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Speaker 4: of ten other back Jacob Daniel runner.

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Speaker 2: Under the sixth ye fifty six points on the force

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Speaker 2: last night for the Chiefs. Josh Jacob excellent game, I

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Speaker 2: thought at first five is on the show, also checking

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Speaker 2: with Chiefs CEO Simon Grafis as part of our journey

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Speaker 2: around the Super Rugby boardrooms. Not such good news for

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Speaker 2: the Blues and Brisbane last night.

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Speaker 4: The Rolling Mall, it's.

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Speaker 6: Got two within six meters of the Blues line.

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Speaker 5: This will be the game.

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Speaker 2: They've got to stop it.

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Speaker 3: The Rolling Mall.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's charging.

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Speaker 7: Towards the Blues line.

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Speaker 8: The line try the Reds will secure.

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Speaker 2: The points they did. Indeed, So Rugby on the show

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. First Up today, though, the big story this

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Speaker 2: week was a groundbreaking new partnership for New Zealand Cricket.

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Speaker 2: They have joined forces with the financial backers of a

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Speaker 2: new franchise in North America's Major League Cricket. That's a

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Speaker 2: competition with a value of at least two hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 2: The new team going to make their debut in the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven season. The first time a full member

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Speaker 2: of the International Cricket Council has partnered with a franchise

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Speaker 2: in a top level professional cricket league. So what does

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Speaker 2: it all mean? New Zealand Cricket CEO Scott winning on

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Speaker 2: the show shortly your thoughts Very welcome on this as

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Speaker 2: well other matters around today. The World Snooker Championships are on.

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Speaker 2: We'll get you to the UK for the latest from

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Speaker 2: the Crucible, Adam Peacock out of Australia and US sporting

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Speaker 2: matters as well after two, the NFL Draft and the

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Speaker 2: NBA Playoffs, speaking of which that's part of the live sport.

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Speaker 2: While we're only at this afternoon, the NBA playoffs continue.

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Speaker 2: We'll keep eyes on these for you. Magic v. Celtics.

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Speaker 2: This is best of seven, of course, the Celtics lead

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Speaker 2: to nil after the first two games. Game three is

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Speaker 2: four forty over the Celtics. Also today the Pacers and

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Speaker 2: the Bucks. The Pacers are two nil up in this

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Speaker 2: best of seven series. Game three just underway in Milwaukee,

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Speaker 2: but later on Timberwolves Lakers. That series tied at one apiece.

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Speaker 2: Game three one thirty this afternoon in Minneapolis, closer to home,

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Speaker 2: own New Zealan National Basketball League one or two Jets

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Speaker 2: on that and Chatham Cup football bunch of first round

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Speaker 2: ties to keep tabs on as well. So plenty happening.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, groundbreaking new partnership for New Zealand Cricket was announced

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Speaker 2: on Thursday, New Zealand Cricket have joined forces with the

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Crickets CEO Scott Winning. Scott, thanks for taking

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Speaker 2: the time for a chat this afternoon. How did this

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Speaker 9: you know, to essentially for two things. One is providing

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Speaker 2: Okay, so there's two parts to this as I understand it.

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Speaker 9: This would be very beneficial. You know, we're talking about

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Speaker 9: And what it also means is, you know, there is

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Speaker 2: So just to clarify the revenue, the seven figure some

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Speaker 9: So the franchise will pay New Zealand Cricket for us

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Speaker 9: That part doesn't include players. That includes coaches, managers, physio

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Speaker 9: sign contracts with that franchise, that'll be a separate arrangement.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha. Okay, so you just in a pardon the ignorance,

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Speaker 9: No, So, in addition to us providing those services, we

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Speaker 9: I mean there can be a maximum five overseas players

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Speaker 9: our expectation is that this there will be heavy New

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Speaker 9: New Zealand players to play for other MLC franchises. You know,

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Speaker 9: a bigger and more good tournament in the time of

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Speaker 2: That's the key. But at the end then, isn't it

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Speaker 2: that's the key? But there at the end that this

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Speaker 2: won't conflict with with players turning out in front of

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Speaker 2: New Zealand crowds during the New Zealand home summer exactly.

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Speaker 9: And the only time there would be a conflict is

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Speaker 9: which point players are essentially contracted. Their obligations will be

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Speaker 9: we're again trying to create opportunities for our players to

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Speaker 2: Is there any danger that you're exposing more New Zealand

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Speaker 2: attracted to Major League cricket.

435
00:24:45,387 --> 00:24:45,747
Speaker 6: Yeah.

436
00:24:45,827 --> 00:24:49,547
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's what I'm hyping because in terms of like,

437
00:24:49,547 --> 00:24:52,467
Speaker 11: like the fellow said that you were interviewing, it's great

438
00:24:53,187 --> 00:24:57,427
Speaker 11: and you've mentioned it too. It's great for New Zealand

439
00:24:57,467 --> 00:25:02,307
Speaker 11: cricket in terms of garning them garnering them revenue, you know,

440
00:25:02,507 --> 00:25:05,827
Speaker 11: for their organization and that like it's not going to

441
00:25:05,907 --> 00:25:08,507
Speaker 11: the player, is like the money that they're getting from

442
00:25:08,547 --> 00:25:11,867
Speaker 11: the deal, but it's going back into the if I

443
00:25:11,947 --> 00:25:14,267
Speaker 11: understand it right, it's going back into the actual cricket

444
00:25:14,267 --> 00:25:17,707
Speaker 11: from New Zealand cricket organization and and that. So yeah,

445
00:25:17,747 --> 00:25:20,267
Speaker 11: it's great for that, you know, for boosting the money.

446
00:25:20,587 --> 00:25:23,307
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the players themselves, Yeah, the players themselves will

447
00:25:23,347 --> 00:25:25,707
Speaker 2: be paid by the franchises. And look, that's the other

448
00:25:25,747 --> 00:25:27,627
Speaker 2: thing for is that is that not every New Zealand

449
00:25:27,667 --> 00:25:30,907
Speaker 2: player who's playing Major League cricket will play for this

450
00:25:31,227 --> 00:25:35,027
Speaker 2: New Zealand associated side. I think Scott Winning said there

451
00:25:35,027 --> 00:25:39,147
Speaker 2: were only you only allowed five imports in there anyway,

452
00:25:39,307 --> 00:25:41,307
Speaker 2: so if there were you know, if there were a

453
00:25:41,347 --> 00:25:44,307
Speaker 2: dozen who wanted to play, then clearly they can't all

454
00:25:44,307 --> 00:25:47,147
Speaker 2: play for this one franchise be interested to know too,

455
00:25:48,067 --> 00:25:51,987
Speaker 2: you know, because Major League Cricket, these these teams won't

456
00:25:52,027 --> 00:25:55,707
Speaker 2: just want New Zealand players, they'll want high quality players

457
00:25:55,747 --> 00:25:59,827
Speaker 2: from all countries. So you know, it's it's not as

458
00:25:59,827 --> 00:26:01,947
Speaker 2: though there'll be you know, like a I'm not sure

459
00:26:01,987 --> 00:26:03,787
Speaker 2: that every black cap would jump to the front of

460
00:26:03,787 --> 00:26:04,827
Speaker 2: the queue if you hit my drift.

461
00:26:05,867 --> 00:26:08,027
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah

462
00:26:08,027 --> 00:26:10,467
Speaker 11: I do get your drink. Yeah, because yeah, just I

463
00:26:10,467 --> 00:26:12,907
Speaker 11: was just primarily thinking of it from the New Zealand

464
00:26:12,947 --> 00:26:15,507
Speaker 11: players and point of viewer. And like you say, if

465
00:26:15,547 --> 00:26:18,387
Speaker 11: you're a sports person, you don't want to play easy

466
00:26:18,427 --> 00:26:21,147
Speaker 11: beats or people that aren't going to give you much competition, because,

467
00:26:21,827 --> 00:26:24,907
Speaker 11: like you know, if you play in someone who's better

468
00:26:24,947 --> 00:26:29,187
Speaker 11: than you, you subconsciously I know, as a golfer, you know,

469
00:26:29,387 --> 00:26:32,467
Speaker 11: and person who plays golf, I know that. And like

470
00:26:32,627 --> 00:26:38,267
Speaker 11: they say, sports people will say that you subconsciously actually

471
00:26:38,307 --> 00:26:41,307
Speaker 11: without even probably know, And it's lift your game yourself,

472
00:26:41,347 --> 00:26:44,427
Speaker 11: you know, because the last thing you want is to go, oh,

473
00:26:44,467 --> 00:26:47,307
Speaker 11: well we smash so and say well we bet I

474
00:26:47,347 --> 00:26:49,067
Speaker 11: bet so, and say but if you know that you're

475
00:26:49,067 --> 00:26:51,867
Speaker 11: a better player, there's not much satisfaction or victory in that,

476
00:26:52,147 --> 00:26:54,947
Speaker 11: you know, glory in that and you don't learn much

477
00:26:54,947 --> 00:26:57,987
Speaker 11: either sort of thing in terms of pushing the technique

478
00:26:58,187 --> 00:27:01,067
Speaker 11: and getting better. So yeah, but like you say, that's

479
00:27:01,067 --> 00:27:04,467
Speaker 11: a that's a good point that they go be probably

480
00:27:04,507 --> 00:27:07,227
Speaker 11: looking at other top players around the world from countries

481
00:27:07,387 --> 00:27:09,027
Speaker 11: like I was in South Africa there as well.

482
00:27:09,107 --> 00:27:12,067
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, good stuff, Phil, good to chat as always, mate,

483
00:27:12,067 --> 00:27:14,707
Speaker 2: thanks for calling it. I just like the fact that

484
00:27:14,747 --> 00:27:20,347
Speaker 2: New Zealand Cricket has and all all ICC me memberinations,

485
00:27:21,227 --> 00:27:23,707
Speaker 2: anybody with skin in the cricket game has to realize,

486
00:27:23,707 --> 00:27:29,387
Speaker 2: as New Zealand Cricket do and have that T twenty franchise,

487
00:27:29,387 --> 00:27:32,667
Speaker 2: cricket ain't going anywhere. You know, it's not going to

488
00:27:32,747 --> 00:27:38,507
Speaker 2: go away. It's only going to grow. And we all

489
00:27:38,547 --> 00:27:40,667
Speaker 2: know the old thing about what happens when you stand

490
00:27:40,707 --> 00:27:45,227
Speaker 2: in the way of change, you just get run over.

491
00:27:46,347 --> 00:27:49,787
Speaker 2: You just get run over the top of So again,

492
00:27:49,867 --> 00:27:55,787
Speaker 2: like I say, I'm I admire New Zealand Cricket for

493
00:27:55,827 --> 00:27:59,307
Speaker 2: thinking outside the box on this one, for saying, look,

494
00:27:59,307 --> 00:28:02,587
Speaker 2: we're not going to stop our players looking for other

495
00:28:02,627 --> 00:28:07,947
Speaker 2: opportunities enfranchise legs. What we can do is at least

496
00:28:08,027 --> 00:28:13,347
Speaker 2: partner with them in some way, shape or form. On

497
00:28:13,387 --> 00:28:16,947
Speaker 2: this one. They're never going to stop players going, and

498
00:28:16,987 --> 00:28:20,987
Speaker 2: they're never going to stop you know, players who want

499
00:28:21,027 --> 00:28:27,347
Speaker 2: to be you know T twenty specialists, Guys who are

500
00:28:27,347 --> 00:28:29,147
Speaker 2: going to just travel the world, playing in all of

501
00:28:29,147 --> 00:28:33,467
Speaker 2: these leagues, playing in South Africa, playing in the IPL,

502
00:28:33,587 --> 00:28:38,187
Speaker 2: playing in Major League Cricket, you know, the Caribbean Premier League.

503
00:28:38,187 --> 00:28:44,627
Speaker 2: There's any number of them now. So you know, you

504
00:28:44,707 --> 00:28:49,027
Speaker 2: cannot stand in the way of people's ambition. Some people

505
00:28:49,027 --> 00:28:51,787
Speaker 2: are never going to want to be centrally contracted, but

506
00:28:52,867 --> 00:28:57,107
Speaker 2: if there's a way of at least keeping a few

507
00:28:58,747 --> 00:29:01,187
Speaker 2: tied up in a central contract or you know, the

508
00:29:01,267 --> 00:29:04,627
Speaker 2: relationship is there, but there's the T twenty opportunities as well,

509
00:29:05,347 --> 00:29:09,627
Speaker 2: then you have to admire it. I think you have

510
00:29:09,707 --> 00:29:13,907
Speaker 2: to admire it. Marie says it's better that experienced players

511
00:29:13,947 --> 00:29:15,627
Speaker 2: go off to franchise cricket at the back end of

512
00:29:15,627 --> 00:29:17,787
Speaker 2: the summer because it gives the new ones opportunities they

513
00:29:17,867 --> 00:29:20,347
Speaker 2: might not otherwise have. It was really exciting watching the

514
00:29:20,387 --> 00:29:23,187
Speaker 2: new players under Michael Bracewell, and a great change from

515
00:29:23,227 --> 00:29:27,427
Speaker 2: some of the same old ones. Marie, I totally agree

516
00:29:27,467 --> 00:29:29,347
Speaker 2: with that. It was it was great to get the

517
00:29:29,427 --> 00:29:34,027
Speaker 2: chance to watch some of those younger players get an opportunity. Mark,

518
00:29:34,107 --> 00:29:35,187
Speaker 2: Hello mate.

519
00:29:35,387 --> 00:29:37,307
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, buddy, Long time no talk.

520
00:29:37,787 --> 00:29:39,507
Speaker 2: There has been a while, Mark, I was beginning to

521
00:29:39,507 --> 00:29:40,627
Speaker 2: get a bit worried about you.

522
00:29:41,387 --> 00:29:43,507
Speaker 12: Oh, you know, just getting over cancer, mate, and it's

523
00:29:43,507 --> 00:29:44,227
Speaker 12: all going good.

524
00:29:44,707 --> 00:29:46,827
Speaker 2: I'm pleased to hear it, Mark, I am pleased to

525
00:29:46,827 --> 00:29:50,107
Speaker 2: hear it.

526
00:29:50,227 --> 00:29:54,547
Speaker 13: With five players, does that mean it says eighteen, so

527
00:29:54,587 --> 00:29:57,587
Speaker 13: you can only have five players divided between the eighteens,

528
00:29:57,667 --> 00:30:00,947
Speaker 13: or that five players per team per team?

529
00:30:01,667 --> 00:30:06,147
Speaker 12: Okay, so five per team? Yeah, okay, that's yeah, that's

530
00:30:06,707 --> 00:30:07,547
Speaker 12: that's not too bad.

531
00:30:07,587 --> 00:30:10,027
Speaker 2: Then it tends to be it tends to be a

532
00:30:10,067 --> 00:30:12,547
Speaker 2: rule around these franchises because you know, the country in

533
00:30:12,587 --> 00:30:14,987
Speaker 2: which they're based needs to get some you know, some

534
00:30:15,067 --> 00:30:18,187
Speaker 2: benefit in terms of opportunities for their own players. So

535
00:30:18,387 --> 00:30:21,987
Speaker 2: it tends to be that even the IPL have restrictions.

536
00:30:22,027 --> 00:30:23,747
Speaker 2: I believe, I'm not exactly sure of the number, but

537
00:30:24,427 --> 00:30:26,747
Speaker 2: there are you know, a huge number of Indian players,

538
00:30:26,747 --> 00:30:28,627
Speaker 2: and of course there are millions and millions of them,

539
00:30:29,747 --> 00:30:31,667
Speaker 2: the same with the US. They want to they want

540
00:30:31,707 --> 00:30:34,667
Speaker 2: to promote the game internally as well, so there'll be

541
00:30:34,707 --> 00:30:37,947
Speaker 2: a number of American players playing, which will naturally drop

542
00:30:37,947 --> 00:30:41,347
Speaker 2: the standard down. Mark, they're not a cricketing superpower. But yeah,

543
00:30:41,387 --> 00:30:43,227
Speaker 2: five five per team.

544
00:30:44,147 --> 00:30:46,827
Speaker 13: Okay, so that could take a lot of players from

545
00:30:47,467 --> 00:30:48,427
Speaker 13: New Zealand shores.

546
00:30:48,547 --> 00:30:51,147
Speaker 12: But they're still contracted to New Zealand Cricket.

547
00:30:52,787 --> 00:30:55,827
Speaker 2: Well, yes, that that's the that's the deal. Yeah, because

548
00:30:56,147 --> 00:30:58,947
Speaker 2: because the Major League cricket happens in the middle of

549
00:30:58,947 --> 00:31:01,707
Speaker 2: the year, when I mean most of the time, there

550
00:31:01,747 --> 00:31:04,107
Speaker 2: are no New Zealand cricket commitments apart from I guess

551
00:31:04,707 --> 00:31:07,707
Speaker 2: tours to the to the North and such like. Yeah,

552
00:31:07,707 --> 00:31:09,827
Speaker 2: they can. They can be contracted to New Zealand Cricket

553
00:31:09,867 --> 00:31:12,747
Speaker 2: and with pretty much the blessing of the national body,

554
00:31:13,187 --> 00:31:15,107
Speaker 2: go and play Major League cricket as well.

555
00:31:15,867 --> 00:31:17,027
Speaker 3: Okay, now that's all good.

556
00:31:17,027 --> 00:31:19,067
Speaker 2: No, thank you for that, Buddy, Good on your mate.

557
00:31:19,067 --> 00:31:21,347
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're keeping well. Mark, keep up the good fight,

558
00:31:21,387 --> 00:31:23,947
Speaker 2: my friend. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Now,

559
00:31:23,947 --> 00:31:26,267
Speaker 2: we do like to put the spotlight on on lots

560
00:31:26,267 --> 00:31:29,787
Speaker 2: of different sports on the show, and here's an opportunity. Actually, Mary,

561
00:31:29,827 --> 00:31:31,907
Speaker 2: you want to tell us about your granddaughter. You're a

562
00:31:31,947 --> 00:31:34,947
Speaker 2: proud grand grandmum or nana today.

563
00:31:35,827 --> 00:31:40,187
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm very proud, Granny. I'm here. There's three New

564
00:31:40,307 --> 00:31:46,107
Speaker 14: Zealand teams went to the World's Cheerleading Championship in Orlando

565
00:31:46,827 --> 00:31:55,747
Speaker 14: and yesterday two teams, one goal for New Zealand, New

566
00:31:55,827 --> 00:32:00,867
Speaker 14: Zealand and yeah, our granddaughter was one of them.

567
00:32:01,427 --> 00:32:03,547
Speaker 2: Now I was sent through, Yeah, I was sent through

568
00:32:03,587 --> 00:32:07,267
Speaker 2: some information about this yesterday. Funnily enough, Mary, by somebody else.

569
00:32:07,267 --> 00:32:09,627
Speaker 2: I don't think it was you using a false name

570
00:32:09,907 --> 00:32:13,427
Speaker 2: sending it through to me. But this is this is tremendous.

571
00:32:13,427 --> 00:32:16,747
Speaker 2: So this is the World Cheerleading Championships.

572
00:32:17,387 --> 00:32:18,787
Speaker 14: Yeah, how in America?

573
00:32:19,827 --> 00:32:20,267
Speaker 2: Amazing?

574
00:32:21,547 --> 00:32:26,467
Speaker 14: Good old Kiewe. Yeah, you know it was eighteen months

575
00:32:26,467 --> 00:32:32,507
Speaker 14: of hard training, trying to you know, spon not sponsorship,

576
00:32:32,547 --> 00:32:39,907
Speaker 14: but you know, doing odd jobs earning money. Yep, yeah, yep, amazing.

577
00:32:41,307 --> 00:32:43,787
Speaker 2: Well, Mary, you're right to be proud. What's your what's

578
00:32:43,827 --> 00:32:45,787
Speaker 2: your what's your granddaughter's name? We better give her a

579
00:32:45,787 --> 00:32:46,667
Speaker 2: special shout out.

580
00:32:47,787 --> 00:32:50,307
Speaker 14: Maddie Deacons World.

581
00:32:50,147 --> 00:32:53,147
Speaker 2: Done, Maddie and the rest of your team. Gold medalists

582
00:32:53,147 --> 00:32:57,147
Speaker 2: of the World Cheerleading Championships. A couple of golds there.

583
00:32:58,027 --> 00:33:01,867
Speaker 2: This is the ICU World Championships. In Orlando, Florida. Like

584
00:33:01,867 --> 00:33:04,387
Speaker 2: I said, I got sent some information on this yesterday,

585
00:33:04,467 --> 00:33:07,747
Speaker 2: So congratulations to everyone involved. We all know what fundraising

586
00:33:07,787 --> 00:33:11,067
Speaker 2: for book trips like this can be, like the Moriad

587
00:33:11,107 --> 00:33:15,027
Speaker 2: of car washers and sausage sizzles. Well done to everybody

588
00:33:15,027 --> 00:33:18,587
Speaker 2: involved in the two gold medal winning teams. It's twelve

589
00:33:18,667 --> 00:33:20,427
Speaker 2: forty two. We'll take a break, come back and get

590
00:33:20,467 --> 00:33:22,467
Speaker 2: you inside the Warriors camp. Adam Pompey a couple of

591
00:33:22,507 --> 00:33:25,547
Speaker 2: tries last night in game one oh one for him

592
00:33:25,547 --> 00:33:27,947
Speaker 2: with the Warriors. Jackson Ford got a couple of tries

593
00:33:27,987 --> 00:33:31,387
Speaker 2: too in his fiftieth game for the team and it's

594
00:33:31,427 --> 00:33:34,027
Speaker 2: taken the Warriors two five and two for the season,

595
00:33:34,027 --> 00:33:37,027
Speaker 2: which is one of their best ever starts to an

596
00:33:37,147 --> 00:33:40,107
Speaker 2: NRL campaign. How did the players feel about him? Adam Pompey,

597
00:33:40,187 --> 00:33:41,747
Speaker 2: Women come back on News Talks headb.

598
00:33:42,707 --> 00:33:44,587
Speaker 5: It's more than just a game.

599
00:33:44,907 --> 00:33:49,547
Speaker 1: Weekend sport with Jason Tyne and GJ. Gunnomes, New Zealand's

600
00:33:49,587 --> 00:33:50,747
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder.

601
00:33:50,827 --> 00:33:54,307
Speaker 2: News Dogs dB fourteen to one. The Warriors twenty six

602
00:33:54,467 --> 00:33:57,427
Speaker 2: twelve winners over the Newcastle Knights in their Anjac Day

603
00:33:57,627 --> 00:34:02,227
Speaker 2: NRL fixture in christ Church last night, Tower about it

604
00:34:02,347 --> 00:34:03,787
Speaker 2: back take one.

605
00:34:03,907 --> 00:34:05,947
Speaker 5: He is top tea, top tech.

606
00:34:07,947 --> 00:34:10,547
Speaker 15: I think there's gonna be any doubt about that one.

607
00:34:11,307 --> 00:34:13,507
Speaker 16: I was in it away and that they don't argue

608
00:34:13,547 --> 00:34:16,867
Speaker 16: with bed time on his chest, left there indented for

609
00:34:16,947 --> 00:34:17,667
Speaker 16: everyone to see.

610
00:34:17,747 --> 00:34:19,587
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of tries for Adam Pompey, two for

611
00:34:19,667 --> 00:34:22,587
Speaker 2: Jackson four, the Warriors running in five tries to one.

612
00:34:22,627 --> 00:34:26,187
Speaker 2: They led sixteen nil at halftime, the first time they've

613
00:34:26,227 --> 00:34:30,627
Speaker 2: won on Anzac Day since twenty fourteen and five wins

614
00:34:30,667 --> 00:34:33,987
Speaker 2: two losses to start the season. That record at the

615
00:34:34,027 --> 00:34:37,227
Speaker 2: stage of the season has only been betted once in

616
00:34:37,267 --> 00:34:40,547
Speaker 2: their history. That was in twenty eighteen. Adam Pompey joins

617
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Speaker 2: us just ahead of flying home. Adam, thanks for your time, mate,

618
00:34:43,387 --> 00:34:45,867
Speaker 2: Congratulations on the win last night. How happy do you

619
00:34:45,947 --> 00:34:48,387
Speaker 2: think the coaching staff and the playing group were with

620
00:34:48,467 --> 00:34:50,787
Speaker 2: the performance and the result in christ Church?

621
00:34:51,387 --> 00:34:53,987
Speaker 16: Yeah, it was good and I thought the boys played

622
00:34:54,147 --> 00:34:57,507
Speaker 16: very well and no big occasion done in christ Church

623
00:34:57,587 --> 00:35:02,267
Speaker 16: and also had in Zach last night, so I'm glad

624
00:35:02,267 --> 00:35:05,347
Speaker 16: that the boys are got up last night.

625
00:35:05,387 --> 00:35:09,907
Speaker 2: So yeah, twice this season you've suffered disappointing defeats. First

626
00:35:09,947 --> 00:35:12,307
Speaker 2: game against the Raiders in Vegas, then that lost to

627
00:35:12,347 --> 00:35:15,427
Speaker 2: the storm and both times you've bounced back. Really well,

628
00:35:15,467 --> 00:35:20,147
Speaker 2: what's behind the resilience and this Warriors team?

629
00:35:19,427 --> 00:35:19,547
Speaker 5: Uh?

630
00:35:20,347 --> 00:35:23,187
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it's just coming down to our trainings.

631
00:35:24,107 --> 00:35:28,227
Speaker 16: No worrying about every day, not not just the game.

632
00:35:28,267 --> 00:35:30,947
Speaker 16: But yeah, I think the boys are really training it

633
00:35:30,987 --> 00:35:35,067
Speaker 16: hard to take take over them to the next level.

634
00:35:35,067 --> 00:35:37,627
Speaker 16: And yeah, which is good.

635
00:35:37,667 --> 00:35:42,067
Speaker 2: So yeah, you've got a prize in nine games against Newcastle.

636
00:35:42,067 --> 00:35:43,307
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you knew that or not, one

637
00:35:43,307 --> 00:35:45,267
Speaker 2: of your favorite opponents. What is it about the Knights

638
00:35:45,267 --> 00:35:48,667
Speaker 2: that you like so much? Not too sure.

639
00:35:49,427 --> 00:35:53,787
Speaker 16: Yeah, just been putting myself in great positions and who

640
00:35:53,827 --> 00:35:57,667
Speaker 16: know the boys? Are you feeding me the chies? So yeah,

641
00:35:57,907 --> 00:35:59,187
Speaker 16: I put my hand off for that?

642
00:35:59,267 --> 00:36:01,707
Speaker 2: Why not? Why not? Do you get equal satisfaction though

643
00:36:01,707 --> 00:36:04,827
Speaker 2: from being involved in tries for others, you know, like you,

644
00:36:04,827 --> 00:36:07,187
Speaker 2: you know, play a pretty key role in and Jackson

645
00:36:07,267 --> 00:36:08,667
Speaker 2: Ford's first try last night.

646
00:36:09,427 --> 00:36:14,587
Speaker 16: Yeah nah, he came up with the obviously the nation.

647
00:36:14,707 --> 00:36:18,707
Speaker 16: I put up a home born and yeah I went

648
00:36:18,787 --> 00:36:23,347
Speaker 16: to go con contested and yeah, lucky enough that Jacko

649
00:36:23,467 --> 00:36:25,827
Speaker 16: was in the right spot at the right time. So yeah,

650
00:36:25,867 --> 00:36:26,547
Speaker 16: it's good.

651
00:36:26,427 --> 00:36:28,547
Speaker 2: And a couple of tries for him on his fiftieth

652
00:36:29,067 --> 00:36:31,547
Speaker 2: appearance as well, so I guess he probably gets the

653
00:36:31,547 --> 00:36:33,947
Speaker 2: bragging rights afterwards. Does he gets a couple of tries,

654
00:36:33,987 --> 00:36:35,707
Speaker 2: You get a couple of tries. He's but he's got

655
00:36:35,707 --> 00:36:37,667
Speaker 2: the louder voice in the changing room awards.

656
00:36:38,467 --> 00:36:44,107
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, no, proud to achievement for him, especially fifty

657
00:36:44,147 --> 00:36:46,827
Speaker 16: games for the club. It's a big moment. So now

658
00:36:46,907 --> 00:36:50,747
Speaker 16: I'm glad that he got over as well. So yeah,

659
00:36:51,067 --> 00:36:52,427
Speaker 16: he's feeling happy about that one.

660
00:36:52,507 --> 00:36:54,147
Speaker 2: I bet, I bet, And you brought up a hundred

661
00:36:54,187 --> 00:36:56,747
Speaker 2: of course games for the club last weekend. How special

662
00:36:56,947 --> 00:36:58,867
Speaker 2: a milestone in a moment was that for you?

663
00:36:59,667 --> 00:36:59,867
Speaker 12: Yeah?

664
00:36:59,907 --> 00:37:03,907
Speaker 16: It was good, especially having a back in Auckland and

665
00:37:04,747 --> 00:37:08,587
Speaker 16: friends and family came, which was the best feeling, and

666
00:37:09,347 --> 00:37:12,347
Speaker 16: an awesome crowd out there too, So I made my

667
00:37:13,107 --> 00:37:15,947
Speaker 16: made my game a bit easier, and yeah it was

668
00:37:15,947 --> 00:37:16,507
Speaker 16: pretty cool.

669
00:37:16,707 --> 00:37:18,387
Speaker 2: You look back on your career with the Warriors, you

670
00:37:18,467 --> 00:37:20,827
Speaker 2: played mainly in the centers, although you know on the

671
00:37:20,827 --> 00:37:22,787
Speaker 2: wing as well, the wing last night, of course, in

672
00:37:22,787 --> 00:37:25,147
Speaker 2: the last two or three games. Is that much of

673
00:37:25,187 --> 00:37:26,827
Speaker 2: a change. How big a change is it from the

674
00:37:26,827 --> 00:37:27,587
Speaker 2: centers to the wing?

675
00:37:29,067 --> 00:37:33,187
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think just more kicking, I guess, And you

676
00:37:33,267 --> 00:37:36,987
Speaker 16: know you're dropping back around fourth and tackle, so yeah,

677
00:37:37,267 --> 00:37:42,987
Speaker 16: just it doesn't take a bit. It's not like as

678
00:37:43,027 --> 00:37:46,667
Speaker 16: no different, but yeah, you're just catching the boar quite

679
00:37:46,667 --> 00:37:51,347
Speaker 16: a lot, which is something I'll put my hand off

680
00:37:51,387 --> 00:37:56,107
Speaker 16: all the wingers job, And yeah.

681
00:37:55,747 --> 00:37:57,707
Speaker 2: How do you reckon? Look Metcalf going in the seven

682
00:37:57,747 --> 00:37:58,507
Speaker 2: Jersey this year?

683
00:37:59,107 --> 00:38:04,107
Speaker 16: Yeah he's going well and the backing them each each

684
00:38:04,187 --> 00:38:08,187
Speaker 16: and every day, but is going really well filling a

685
00:38:08,267 --> 00:38:12,267
Speaker 16: spot for Shawnee and who know, he's playing a really

686
00:38:12,267 --> 00:38:13,347
Speaker 16: good game this season.

687
00:38:13,427 --> 00:38:16,147
Speaker 2: So without wanting to get too carried away, we're only

688
00:38:16,187 --> 00:38:18,227
Speaker 2: seven games into the season, of course, but if you

689
00:38:18,227 --> 00:38:20,347
Speaker 2: look back a couple of seasons to twenty twenty three,

690
00:38:20,427 --> 00:38:22,987
Speaker 2: we all know how successful that that season was and

691
00:38:23,147 --> 00:38:25,067
Speaker 2: you played a massive part in that. Of course, doesn't

692
00:38:25,107 --> 00:38:27,547
Speaker 2: feel but like twenty twenty three this year.

693
00:38:29,267 --> 00:38:35,747
Speaker 16: Uh yeah, I guess so, especially like I know that

694
00:38:35,867 --> 00:38:39,627
Speaker 16: season was the best best season that we probably had

695
00:38:39,627 --> 00:38:43,827
Speaker 16: in the Jersey, And yeah, we want to go stip

696
00:38:43,907 --> 00:38:48,067
Speaker 16: further than making the Grand Finals. So you know, I'm

697
00:38:48,107 --> 00:38:53,107
Speaker 16: back in US this year, And yeah.

698
00:38:51,947 --> 00:38:54,267
Speaker 2: How was the occasion in Christ here? Awesome? On TV?

699
00:38:54,387 --> 00:38:55,947
Speaker 2: How was the occasion there last night.

700
00:38:56,307 --> 00:38:56,947
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was good.

701
00:38:57,267 --> 00:39:00,427
Speaker 16: I had a lot of crowd out there, which was

702
00:39:00,467 --> 00:39:05,507
Speaker 16: pretty cool. No, first time done in christ Church for myself,

703
00:39:05,547 --> 00:39:09,787
Speaker 16: and yeah I'm grateful for that they turned out last night.

704
00:39:10,267 --> 00:39:12,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, good leag fraternity down there and you gave them

705
00:39:13,027 --> 00:39:15,227
Speaker 2: a night to remember. Adam, congrats on the win, another

706
00:39:15,307 --> 00:39:17,107
Speaker 2: one for the Warriors. You look forward to Magic Round

707
00:39:17,147 --> 00:39:19,267
Speaker 2: now against the Cowboys. All the best, mate, Thanks for

708
00:39:19,307 --> 00:39:22,427
Speaker 2: taking the time for a chat today. Thank you, Thank

709
00:39:22,467 --> 00:39:24,347
Speaker 2: you mate. That's Adam Pompey joining us out of the

710
00:39:24,347 --> 00:39:26,307
Speaker 2: Warriors camp. Got to jump on a plane and get home,

711
00:39:26,347 --> 00:39:29,027
Speaker 2: but home with the points in their pockets. So well

712
00:39:29,067 --> 00:39:32,067
Speaker 2: done to the Warriors last night and a great crowd too.

713
00:39:32,387 --> 00:39:35,667
Speaker 2: Really good occasion there last night in christ Church from

714
00:39:35,667 --> 00:39:37,027
Speaker 2: what I can see on the telly. We'll take some

715
00:39:37,027 --> 00:39:39,907
Speaker 2: calls actually after one. Be particularly keen to chat to

716
00:39:39,947 --> 00:39:43,307
Speaker 2: anybody who was there last night and what it was like.

717
00:39:43,427 --> 00:39:45,587
Speaker 2: Of course, that's the last time the Warriors will play

718
00:39:45,667 --> 00:39:49,547
Speaker 2: at that particular venue, but with the new stadium Tikaha

719
00:39:49,747 --> 00:39:52,787
Speaker 2: set to be constructed in time for next season, I

720
00:39:52,827 --> 00:39:54,507
Speaker 2: think I read during the week a three year deal

721
00:39:54,547 --> 00:39:58,067
Speaker 2: to start with. Anyway, three games over the next three

722
00:39:58,107 --> 00:40:01,307
Speaker 2: seasons in christ Church at the new venue, and you'd

723
00:40:01,347 --> 00:40:03,587
Speaker 2: have to think, you know, pretty much beyond that if

724
00:40:03,587 --> 00:40:05,907
Speaker 2: they go well, and they will, that they'll go back

725
00:40:05,947 --> 00:40:08,547
Speaker 2: every ye The Warriors don't actually get back home to

726
00:40:08,627 --> 00:40:11,707
Speaker 2: Mount Smart will go Media Stadium until the back end

727
00:40:11,787 --> 00:40:15,267
Speaker 2: of May. So next weekend it's magic round. Every team

728
00:40:15,307 --> 00:40:18,667
Speaker 2: is in Brisbane. The Warriors taken the Cowboys Saturday nights,

729
00:40:18,667 --> 00:40:23,067
Speaker 2: so a week tonight seven point thirty. Then the following

730
00:40:23,107 --> 00:40:26,107
Speaker 2: week they're in Woollongong to take on the Dragons. That's Saturday,

731
00:40:26,147 --> 00:40:29,867
Speaker 2: May tenth, Saturday May seventeen back at sun Corpse Stadium

732
00:40:29,907 --> 00:40:32,227
Speaker 2: and Brisbane to take on the Dolphins. So next home

733
00:40:32,227 --> 00:40:35,547
Speaker 2: game is against the Raiders, so a chance for revenge

734
00:40:35,587 --> 00:40:39,467
Speaker 2: for what happened in Vegas on the night of Sunday,

735
00:40:39,667 --> 00:40:42,747
Speaker 2: May the twenty fifth, five past six. That's the next

736
00:40:42,747 --> 00:40:46,827
Speaker 2: time the Warriors have a game at their actual home

737
00:40:47,347 --> 00:40:50,547
Speaker 2: of Go Media Stadium. Seven Away from One. News talksb

738
00:40:50,627 --> 00:40:51,387
Speaker 2: Back in a moment.

739
00:40:51,907 --> 00:40:54,227
Speaker 1: When it's down to the line, you made a call

740
00:40:54,347 --> 00:40:59,987
Speaker 1: on eighty Weekends Sports with Jason Hine, News TALKSB.

741
00:41:00,187 --> 00:41:02,827
Speaker 2: Just on four to one after one o'clock Josh Jacob,

742
00:41:02,867 --> 00:41:06,107
Speaker 2: who I thought round the cutter terrifically well for the

743
00:41:06,147 --> 00:41:09,507
Speaker 2: check last night and their big win over the Western

744
00:41:09,587 --> 00:41:12,787
Speaker 2: Force at Bay Oval in Mount Monganu. We good to

745
00:41:12,787 --> 00:41:14,947
Speaker 2: see the Chiefs taking a game there. I think it

746
00:41:15,067 --> 00:41:19,147
Speaker 2: was a success. Yes, so Josh Jacob after one o'clock,

747
00:41:20,427 --> 00:41:22,987
Speaker 2: how did he assess it? And did he ever think

748
00:41:23,067 --> 00:41:24,987
Speaker 2: Josh Jacob, you know what, I'm at a franchise where

749
00:41:25,067 --> 00:41:28,387
Speaker 2: Damien McKenzie is. Maybe I'd be better off elsewhere. I'm

750
00:41:28,387 --> 00:41:30,467
Speaker 2: like at a few games or a few more games

751
00:41:30,507 --> 00:41:32,627
Speaker 2: if there's not one of the best first fives in

752
00:41:32,667 --> 00:41:35,547
Speaker 2: the world blocking my way to the ten Jersey clearly

753
00:41:35,587 --> 00:41:38,387
Speaker 2: decided the Chiefs is the place to be, So I

754
00:41:38,467 --> 00:41:41,387
Speaker 2: just wonder about the internal dialogue that went on there.

755
00:41:41,427 --> 00:41:43,747
Speaker 2: I asked Josh Jacin that when he joins us after

756
00:41:43,747 --> 00:41:46,387
Speaker 2: one o'clock, will keep eyes on the NBA as well.

757
00:41:46,667 --> 00:41:49,787
Speaker 2: The Celtics and the Magic going at it in their

758
00:41:49,827 --> 00:41:53,467
Speaker 2: third game, the Magic sixty nine to sixty five ahead

759
00:41:53,547 --> 00:41:55,587
Speaker 2: coming towards the end of the third quarter.

760
00:41:56,547 --> 00:42:00,827
Speaker 1: The only plays for the big names, the big issues,

761
00:42:01,507 --> 00:42:06,467
Speaker 1: the big controversies, and the big conversations. It's all on

762
00:42:06,547 --> 00:42:10,307
Speaker 1: weekend sport with Jason him on your home of Sport

763
00:42:10,787 --> 00:42:11,747
Speaker 1: News Talks. It'd be.

764
00:42:13,547 --> 00:42:16,227
Speaker 2: Welcome in one seventh the time. I'm Jason Pine Bevan

765
00:42:16,307 --> 00:42:19,187
Speaker 2: Jura's show producer. Today we're here till three talking sport.

766
00:42:19,547 --> 00:42:22,627
Speaker 2: Adam Peacock from across the Tasman in his regular slot

767
00:42:22,627 --> 00:42:27,827
Speaker 2: this hour, covering off all things Australian sport, including Oscar Pastre.

768
00:42:28,387 --> 00:42:31,427
Speaker 2: I wonder how much cut through he gets over there?

769
00:42:31,467 --> 00:42:35,227
Speaker 2: Probably quite a bit. Liam Lawson of course, particular early

770
00:42:35,267 --> 00:42:37,467
Speaker 2: on this Formula One season was getting all sorts of

771
00:42:38,067 --> 00:42:40,107
Speaker 2: what they used to call colin inches when it came

772
00:42:40,147 --> 00:42:44,347
Speaker 2: to newspapers. He's getting lots and lots of exposure. Not

773
00:42:44,467 --> 00:42:46,747
Speaker 2: so much now that he's sort of settled into his

774
00:42:47,707 --> 00:42:50,547
Speaker 2: career as a full time driver and is just finding

775
00:42:50,587 --> 00:42:53,867
Speaker 2: his way. But Oscar Pastre leads the Formula One Drivers

776
00:42:53,947 --> 00:42:57,107
Speaker 2: Championship after five rounds the Australians, how much cut through

777
00:42:57,147 --> 00:43:00,787
Speaker 2: does he get across there? And other sporting matters from Australia.

778
00:43:00,867 --> 00:43:02,467
Speaker 2: Can you hear from you as well this hour? If

779
00:43:02,507 --> 00:43:04,467
Speaker 2: you went to the Warriors last night in christ Juch,

780
00:43:04,547 --> 00:43:07,587
Speaker 2: what was the occasion like? And in fact Warriors fans

781
00:43:08,907 --> 00:43:12,187
Speaker 2: five and two as I mentioned before, we ch had

782
00:43:12,307 --> 00:43:15,507
Speaker 2: to Adam Pompey last hour. It is the joint best

783
00:43:15,627 --> 00:43:20,547
Speaker 2: ever start to an NRL season by the Warriors. Twenty

784
00:43:20,587 --> 00:43:23,947
Speaker 2: eighteen was the other time they went five and two

785
00:43:24,027 --> 00:43:26,187
Speaker 2: to start a season, even a couple of years ago,

786
00:43:26,227 --> 00:43:30,067
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty three in that magnificent season, they didn't

787
00:43:30,067 --> 00:43:34,107
Speaker 2: start that well in the first seven games. So, without

788
00:43:34,147 --> 00:43:37,347
Speaker 2: wanting to jinx, it is it our year. Who knows?

789
00:43:37,547 --> 00:43:39,267
Speaker 2: Who knows? But we can chat about it, can't. We

790
00:43:40,907 --> 00:43:44,507
Speaker 2: just updating you on some live sport. In the NBA Playoffs,

791
00:43:44,587 --> 00:43:48,027
Speaker 2: it's the first round, so we're going to break all

792
00:43:48,027 --> 00:43:51,587
Speaker 2: these down for you after two o'clock actually, when our

793
00:43:51,827 --> 00:43:57,387
Speaker 2: American sports expert Leon Busby joins us. But NBA Playoffs

794
00:43:57,987 --> 00:44:02,627
Speaker 2: Magic the Celtics. This is game three in Orlando. The

795
00:44:02,667 --> 00:44:06,627
Speaker 2: Celtics lead to nil after the first two games. Art

796
00:44:07,747 --> 00:44:10,147
Speaker 2: helped on by their home crowd, no doubt, the Orlando

797
00:44:10,267 --> 00:44:15,427
Speaker 2: Magic seventy three points to seventy ahead of the Celtics

798
00:44:16,307 --> 00:44:19,187
Speaker 2: nearing the end of the third quarter. So Orlando looking

799
00:44:19,187 --> 00:44:21,347
Speaker 2: good there. The other game, which is on right now

800
00:44:21,547 --> 00:44:25,587
Speaker 2: is between the Milwaukee Bucks and the Indiana Pacers. This

801
00:44:25,707 --> 00:44:28,867
Speaker 2: is Game three in Milwaukee, the Pacers have a two

802
00:44:28,947 --> 00:44:32,787
Speaker 2: nil lead and lead fifty five forty five coming towards

803
00:44:32,787 --> 00:44:35,587
Speaker 2: the end of the second quarter there so the Pacers

804
00:44:35,627 --> 00:44:38,747
Speaker 2: looking to take a three nil lead in that particular series.

805
00:44:38,787 --> 00:44:41,307
Speaker 2: So we'll keep eyes on those for you. And in fact,

806
00:44:41,387 --> 00:44:45,227
Speaker 2: the game underway at one point thirty in Minneapolis as

807
00:44:45,267 --> 00:44:49,027
Speaker 2: the Timberwolves play host to the Los Angeles Lakers. But

808
00:44:49,147 --> 00:44:51,827
Speaker 2: we start this out with rugby, and for the second

809
00:44:51,827 --> 00:44:55,027
Speaker 2: week in a row, the Chiefs showed they are a

810
00:44:55,107 --> 00:44:58,947
Speaker 2: second half team to be feed, beating the Force fifty

811
00:44:59,027 --> 00:45:02,587
Speaker 2: six twenty two at Bay Oval to move five points

812
00:45:02,627 --> 00:45:04,827
Speaker 2: clear at the top of the Super Rugby table.

813
00:45:06,867 --> 00:45:10,107
Speaker 4: Well a show of force from the Chiefs the top

814
00:45:10,187 --> 00:45:13,347
Speaker 4: ranked team and Super Rugby Pacific win and not mong

815
00:45:13,347 --> 00:45:17,347
Speaker 4: Anui to the tune of fifty six twenty two eight

816
00:45:17,467 --> 00:45:19,427
Speaker 4: tries to three in the end.

817
00:45:19,707 --> 00:45:22,747
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Chiefs ran thirty one points in the second half,

818
00:45:22,827 --> 00:45:26,667
Speaker 2: having put the Highlanders to the sword in similar circumstances

819
00:45:26,707 --> 00:45:29,907
Speaker 2: in the second half last weekend. In the absence of

820
00:45:30,107 --> 00:45:33,587
Speaker 2: Damien Mackenzie, who was missing with a minor hand injury,

821
00:45:33,987 --> 00:45:37,627
Speaker 2: Josh Jacob started and played the entire game at first

822
00:45:37,707 --> 00:45:42,307
Speaker 2: five and was excellent in doing so, he joins us. Now, Josh,

823
00:45:42,387 --> 00:45:45,467
Speaker 2: I guess when you put fifty plus on somebody, everybody

824
00:45:45,467 --> 00:45:48,067
Speaker 2: would be reasonably happy with that. How do you evaluate

825
00:45:48,107 --> 00:45:52,707
Speaker 2: the performance of the side last night at Bayoval?

826
00:45:53,267 --> 00:45:56,467
Speaker 17: Yeah, no, thanks for the intro, mate, very kind words.

827
00:45:57,187 --> 00:46:00,147
Speaker 17: In terms of the performance, I think, like you say,

828
00:46:00,267 --> 00:46:04,787
Speaker 17: putting fifty points on a team is always a good

829
00:46:04,907 --> 00:46:09,427
Speaker 17: luck and I think we really made some good shifts

830
00:46:09,427 --> 00:46:13,747
Speaker 17: in the second half that allowed us to put out

831
00:46:13,787 --> 00:46:17,507
Speaker 17: a performance that all of us, from coaches and players

832
00:46:17,547 --> 00:46:22,467
Speaker 17: could have been proud of, especially for Semasoni's one hundredth game.

833
00:46:22,547 --> 00:46:27,627
Speaker 17: It's a awesome player for us and put out a

834
00:46:27,667 --> 00:46:33,907
Speaker 17: performance for him like that was just as special. So yeah, and.

835
00:46:33,947 --> 00:46:35,627
Speaker 2: A try for him as well, which is not unusual.

836
00:46:35,667 --> 00:46:37,707
Speaker 2: Of course, he normally gets one, doesn't he, So good

837
00:46:37,747 --> 00:46:39,747
Speaker 2: to have him get one on the occasion of it

838
00:46:39,827 --> 00:46:42,627
Speaker 2: was one hundredth As I mentioned, for the second straight week,

839
00:46:42,667 --> 00:46:45,267
Speaker 2: it was the second half that stood out the most.

840
00:46:45,267 --> 00:46:47,987
Speaker 2: You won the second half thirty one to seven last night.

841
00:46:48,187 --> 00:46:51,667
Speaker 2: You won at thirty three nil against the Highlanders last weekend.

842
00:46:51,667 --> 00:46:53,227
Speaker 2: Why do you think the Chiefs are such a good

843
00:46:53,667 --> 00:46:54,627
Speaker 2: second half side?

844
00:46:56,707 --> 00:47:00,627
Speaker 17: Yeah, that's a good question, because we keep searching for

845
00:47:01,787 --> 00:47:05,627
Speaker 17: I guess that ability to play like that in the

846
00:47:05,667 --> 00:47:10,827
Speaker 17: first half is well, but I think the work we're

847
00:47:10,867 --> 00:47:14,427
Speaker 17: doing in the first half is kind of what's setting

848
00:47:14,467 --> 00:47:18,507
Speaker 17: us up in the second. We're staying true to our

849
00:47:18,547 --> 00:47:23,227
Speaker 17: game plan and our systems, and I guess being able

850
00:47:23,267 --> 00:47:27,307
Speaker 17: to break your team down over eighty minutes is pretty important.

851
00:47:27,347 --> 00:47:35,507
Speaker 17: And almost coming back together at halftime and having maybe

852
00:47:35,547 --> 00:47:38,467
Speaker 17: small conversations that we need to have to go out

853
00:47:38,507 --> 00:47:41,707
Speaker 17: and say like we're doing the second half has been

854
00:47:41,747 --> 00:47:44,827
Speaker 17: really beneficial. So I think, to put it bluntly, just

855
00:47:45,467 --> 00:47:47,387
Speaker 17: the work we're doing in the first half and staying

856
00:47:47,387 --> 00:47:50,187
Speaker 17: in the fight really and then being able to grind

857
00:47:50,227 --> 00:47:53,227
Speaker 17: a team down in the second half is pace evidence.

858
00:47:53,347 --> 00:47:56,067
Speaker 2: The last couple of weeks anyway, certainly has Let's talk

859
00:47:56,067 --> 00:47:58,947
Speaker 2: about your performances. You've played every one of the Chiefs

860
00:47:59,267 --> 00:48:01,987
Speaker 2: teen games this season, six starts at first, five four

861
00:48:02,027 --> 00:48:05,787
Speaker 2: off the bench. You only had four games all last season.

862
00:48:05,787 --> 00:48:08,347
Speaker 2: How much are you and enjoying weekend wake out rugby

863
00:48:08,387 --> 00:48:08,867
Speaker 2: for the chase?

864
00:48:10,507 --> 00:48:13,947
Speaker 17: Yeah, I'm loving today. It was definitely a goal at

865
00:48:13,987 --> 00:48:17,307
Speaker 17: the start of the year just to try and make

866
00:48:17,387 --> 00:48:20,627
Speaker 17: as mini MATCHDAYE twenty threes as I possibly could, and

867
00:48:22,027 --> 00:48:24,907
Speaker 17: obviously got a bit lucky in a sense at the

868
00:48:24,947 --> 00:48:29,107
Speaker 17: start of the year with we not lucky, but Shooter

869
00:48:29,347 --> 00:48:32,187
Speaker 17: was away still in Japan, and there was almost an

870
00:48:32,227 --> 00:48:37,067
Speaker 17: opportunity there for to get out on the field, which

871
00:48:37,187 --> 00:48:39,907
Speaker 17: was awesome for me. And then obviously last night as well,

872
00:48:40,627 --> 00:48:45,107
Speaker 17: unfortunately at the expense of Damian Tande in jury. Never

873
00:48:45,147 --> 00:48:48,747
Speaker 17: want that, but it kind of allowed me to dig

874
00:48:48,827 --> 00:48:52,187
Speaker 17: out there on the field. So yeah, I'm definitely loving

875
00:48:52,307 --> 00:48:57,147
Speaker 17: being out there with the boys and just experiencing the

876
00:48:57,227 --> 00:49:02,387
Speaker 17: whole season and trying to make an impact when I

877
00:49:02,427 --> 00:49:03,227
Speaker 17: can for the team.

878
00:49:04,067 --> 00:49:06,267
Speaker 2: I guess some people in your situation, Josh, might have

879
00:49:06,427 --> 00:49:09,587
Speaker 2: looked at the squad and seen Damien McKenzie there and thought,

880
00:49:10,227 --> 00:49:11,387
Speaker 2: I'm not going to get a heck of a lot

881
00:49:11,387 --> 00:49:14,267
Speaker 2: of opportunity here, and you might have looked elsewhere. Were

882
00:49:14,267 --> 00:49:16,507
Speaker 2: you always keen to stay with the Chiefs?

883
00:49:18,307 --> 00:49:21,147
Speaker 17: Yeah, well that was always always the plan when I

884
00:49:21,347 --> 00:49:25,987
Speaker 17: just came up last year for the wider group and

885
00:49:26,027 --> 00:49:31,787
Speaker 17: then again unfortunately for Trusk, it allowed me to come

886
00:49:31,827 --> 00:49:36,787
Speaker 17: in as an injury cover. So yeah, it was definitely

887
00:49:36,787 --> 00:49:40,427
Speaker 17: always the plan, And I mean being able to come

888
00:49:40,467 --> 00:49:44,147
Speaker 17: to work and learn some one of the if not

889
00:49:44,307 --> 00:49:47,347
Speaker 17: the best tin and world rugby at the moment is

890
00:49:48,747 --> 00:49:53,427
Speaker 17: as an awesome opportunity. So I think with that, just

891
00:49:53,507 --> 00:49:58,027
Speaker 17: making the most of every opportunity, like I say, out

892
00:49:58,067 --> 00:50:02,027
Speaker 17: on the field or training to learn and grow my

893
00:50:02,107 --> 00:50:06,707
Speaker 17: game as it is really important and that's a chief.

894
00:50:06,787 --> 00:50:09,467
Speaker 17: That's an awesome place to be able to try and

895
00:50:09,507 --> 00:50:09,827
Speaker 17: do that.

896
00:50:10,707 --> 00:50:13,627
Speaker 2: How has he specifically helped you, Damien?

897
00:50:15,907 --> 00:50:20,547
Speaker 17: And I think just you know, for a teen I

898
00:50:20,587 --> 00:50:25,227
Speaker 17: think the more time you get in the settle, the

899
00:50:25,227 --> 00:50:27,867
Speaker 17: more easy the game comes or the game slows down

900
00:50:27,907 --> 00:50:31,827
Speaker 17: to you. And it's just getting another perspective on what

901
00:50:32,227 --> 00:50:34,627
Speaker 17: he might be seen or what he might be feeling,

902
00:50:35,707 --> 00:50:37,587
Speaker 17: even when he's not playing, Like last night, I was

903
00:50:38,347 --> 00:50:41,547
Speaker 17: asking him at halftime if he had anything. I mean,

904
00:50:41,587 --> 00:50:46,027
Speaker 17: it's just those little chats. I think in those small

905
00:50:46,067 --> 00:50:48,267
Speaker 17: concept can go a long way and it might just

906
00:50:48,307 --> 00:50:50,667
Speaker 17: open up your mind or it might something might just

907
00:50:50,667 --> 00:50:53,907
Speaker 17: going to the becky in mind that might pop up

908
00:50:54,707 --> 00:50:58,067
Speaker 17: later in the game. So yeah, it's a small chat.

909
00:50:58,067 --> 00:51:01,947
Speaker 17: And then just that we all know how good he

910
00:51:02,067 --> 00:51:06,307
Speaker 17: is with ball in hands, so him giving me confidence,

911
00:51:06,347 --> 00:51:10,107
Speaker 17: it's just to go out and enjoy myself and back

912
00:51:10,147 --> 00:51:12,787
Speaker 17: myself has been really awesome as well.

913
00:51:13,547 --> 00:51:15,467
Speaker 2: The Chiefs back line. You look at it, man, it's

914
00:51:15,507 --> 00:51:18,107
Speaker 2: stack day, one of the best in the competition at

915
00:51:18,107 --> 00:51:20,587
Speaker 2: first five. How tempting is it just to spin it

916
00:51:20,627 --> 00:51:21,627
Speaker 2: out every time you get it?

917
00:51:23,227 --> 00:51:26,907
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean very lucky in the first five position

918
00:51:26,987 --> 00:51:30,307
Speaker 17: with the boys in the back line, even our forwards.

919
00:51:30,347 --> 00:51:34,507
Speaker 17: There's big names all over the park, so pretty fortunate

920
00:51:34,667 --> 00:51:39,027
Speaker 17: position to be in as a teen. And yes it's

921
00:51:39,107 --> 00:51:44,987
Speaker 17: very tempting, but there's no hesitation from the boys outside.

922
00:51:44,987 --> 00:51:46,907
Speaker 17: I mean, letting them know that they're want the ball,

923
00:51:47,067 --> 00:51:50,267
Speaker 17: so it makes my job. It makes my job pretty easy,

924
00:51:50,347 --> 00:51:52,627
Speaker 17: and the boys are all up for the book.

925
00:51:53,267 --> 00:51:53,507
Speaker 16: Are you?

926
00:51:53,747 --> 00:51:56,427
Speaker 2: Are you at the at the at the stage though,

927
00:51:56,507 --> 00:51:58,947
Speaker 2: where you can call the shots? I mean, as you say,

928
00:51:58,987 --> 00:52:01,827
Speaker 2: you look outside, you see Quinta Paiyer, Anton Lennard brown A.

929
00:52:01,827 --> 00:52:05,387
Speaker 2: But further out you know, I'm on another way, Shawn Stephenson,

930
00:52:05,547 --> 00:52:08,187
Speaker 2: big names. As you say, Are you confident enough though

931
00:52:08,227 --> 00:52:10,467
Speaker 2: to call the shots with these guys outside you?

932
00:52:12,027 --> 00:52:14,747
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think I'm in a position now that I am.

933
00:52:15,667 --> 00:52:19,427
Speaker 17: I think last year one of our coaches, Marty Burke,

934
00:52:19,507 --> 00:52:24,827
Speaker 17: who I worked with closely at the Chiefs kind of

935
00:52:24,867 --> 00:52:28,067
Speaker 17: described my year last year as an apprentice year and

936
00:52:28,107 --> 00:52:31,347
Speaker 17: now this year, whenever I get an opportunity, it's up

937
00:52:31,387 --> 00:52:34,427
Speaker 17: to me to really put my foot down and use

938
00:52:34,507 --> 00:52:37,787
Speaker 17: my voice and call the shots that you're saying. But

939
00:52:37,827 --> 00:52:41,147
Speaker 17: there're awesome thing is I've got all those people with

940
00:52:41,387 --> 00:52:46,467
Speaker 17: a full circle and our back lind that can, I

941
00:52:46,507 --> 00:52:52,067
Speaker 17: guess offer their advice or maybe a different opinion, and

942
00:52:52,107 --> 00:52:56,867
Speaker 17: then that's also growing my game because they're also seeing

943
00:52:56,907 --> 00:53:00,707
Speaker 17: things from a different point of view as well. So

944
00:53:00,867 --> 00:53:04,187
Speaker 17: I think, to put it short, I am, but also

945
00:53:04,467 --> 00:53:09,427
Speaker 17: I'm not don't shy away from asking for a second

946
00:53:09,467 --> 00:53:12,787
Speaker 17: opinion here and here and there from the boys that

947
00:53:13,307 --> 00:53:17,667
Speaker 17: I think if the point might be valuable.

948
00:53:19,507 --> 00:53:21,787
Speaker 2: How much of your week are you spending on your

949
00:53:21,787 --> 00:53:22,227
Speaker 2: goal kicking?

950
00:53:24,387 --> 00:53:29,067
Speaker 17: Uh, I'd say, well, depending on our week, if it's

951
00:53:29,067 --> 00:53:34,067
Speaker 17: a Monday, Monday time, play on Saturday, maybe including captain

952
00:53:34,147 --> 00:53:36,307
Speaker 17: from three, two or three times a week.

953
00:53:37,747 --> 00:53:39,987
Speaker 2: Yeah, happy with the with the way you're kicking. I mean,

954
00:53:40,067 --> 00:53:42,787
Speaker 2: it's obviously a big part of playing at first five.

955
00:53:42,867 --> 00:53:44,427
Speaker 2: You you're happy with your goal kicking?

956
00:53:47,147 --> 00:53:50,587
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think I was quite disappointed in the way

957
00:53:51,067 --> 00:53:55,507
Speaker 17: I was goal kicking. The empty c season just gone

958
00:53:55,507 --> 00:54:01,107
Speaker 17: and got them to one of those slumps and kind

959
00:54:01,107 --> 00:54:04,187
Speaker 17: of just getting back to my routine and things like

960
00:54:04,267 --> 00:54:10,267
Speaker 17: that this season. So just all about trusting the process.

961
00:54:10,267 --> 00:54:11,947
Speaker 17: And I think I'm in a good place with my

962
00:54:11,987 --> 00:54:16,467
Speaker 17: goalkicking there. Even if I'm missing I'm pretty happy with

963
00:54:16,507 --> 00:54:20,867
Speaker 17: how I'm striking it. So I think it's just it's

964
00:54:20,907 --> 00:54:22,947
Speaker 17: coming back to me. And yeah, i think I'm in

965
00:54:22,987 --> 00:54:23,547
Speaker 17: a good place.

966
00:54:24,267 --> 00:54:27,067
Speaker 2: Good stuff, and good to see Wallace and Titi back

967
00:54:27,067 --> 00:54:30,227
Speaker 2: out there last night. He's obviously worked hard on his recovery.

968
00:54:30,267 --> 00:54:32,227
Speaker 2: Good to see him back on the grass last night.

969
00:54:33,427 --> 00:54:35,947
Speaker 17: Yeah, it was awesome to see Wally Beck and a

970
00:54:35,987 --> 00:54:39,587
Speaker 17: few of the other boys too, like Lordie and Trickle

971
00:54:39,667 --> 00:54:46,147
Speaker 17: Tea and John and Trusty all back as well. So, man,

972
00:54:46,187 --> 00:54:50,747
Speaker 17: I was talking to Wally yesterday morning before the game

973
00:54:50,787 --> 00:54:54,427
Speaker 17: and to just hear how excited he was and his

974
00:54:54,547 --> 00:54:56,467
Speaker 17: voice and just how keen he was to get out there.

975
00:54:56,507 --> 00:54:59,307
Speaker 17: And I think with the first touch of the boy

976
00:54:59,307 --> 00:55:05,507
Speaker 17: he ran fifty meters or something. So no, he's an

977
00:55:05,547 --> 00:55:09,627
Speaker 17: awesome man and awesome player. So very grateful to Heaven back,

978
00:55:10,227 --> 00:55:15,987
Speaker 17: especially when he's in the same team as as yourself. Yeah,

979
00:55:16,147 --> 00:55:17,427
Speaker 17: it was some seven back.

980
00:55:17,667 --> 00:55:19,147
Speaker 2: You reckon you guys can win the whole thing.

981
00:55:21,107 --> 00:55:27,027
Speaker 17: Yeah, definitely, the beliefs there and almost that confidence is

982
00:55:27,067 --> 00:55:30,627
Speaker 17: there as well. I think we're we started really well

983
00:55:30,667 --> 00:55:36,187
Speaker 17: and then I mean we're still playing all right, but

984
00:55:36,907 --> 00:55:39,187
Speaker 17: kind of not had a slump, but got into a

985
00:55:39,187 --> 00:55:43,667
Speaker 17: bit of a funny gray are and I think we've

986
00:55:43,707 --> 00:55:45,587
Speaker 17: just come out of that really nicely in the last

987
00:55:45,587 --> 00:55:49,867
Speaker 17: few weeks and just kids taking sticks forward each week

988
00:55:49,947 --> 00:55:54,387
Speaker 17: in the right direction to hopefully a final and I

989
00:55:54,507 --> 00:55:56,787
Speaker 17: win a championship at the end of the at the

990
00:55:56,867 --> 00:55:57,547
Speaker 17: end of the season.

991
00:55:58,427 --> 00:56:02,187
Speaker 2: Congrats on a terrific performance last night from you, Josh,

992
00:56:01,747 --> 00:56:04,387
Speaker 2: and the chiefs as well. Really appreciate you taking the

993
00:56:04,427 --> 00:56:06,227
Speaker 2: time for a chat this afternoon.

994
00:56:05,907 --> 00:56:08,467
Speaker 17: Mate, n chess mate, really appreciate it.

995
00:56:08,787 --> 00:56:11,427
Speaker 2: I appreciate your time, Josh. Thanks indeed, Josh Jacob there

996
00:56:11,467 --> 00:56:13,747
Speaker 2: first chance I think I've had to jet to Josh

997
00:56:13,827 --> 00:56:16,947
Speaker 2: Jacob seems like a very level headed young man, doesn't

998
00:56:16,987 --> 00:56:19,187
Speaker 2: He doesn't seem to be affected by it all. Would

999
00:56:19,187 --> 00:56:21,907
Speaker 2: he be actually be keen for your thoughts on this? Oh,

1000
00:56:21,987 --> 00:56:25,467
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Would Josh Jacob be

1001
00:56:26,227 --> 00:56:30,547
Speaker 2: our third first five if we're talking all blacks right now,

1002
00:56:31,547 --> 00:56:36,187
Speaker 2: Damien McKenzie, Bowden Barrett. Would Josh Jacob be the third one?

1003
00:56:37,627 --> 00:56:39,867
Speaker 2: I think he probably would be, wouldn't he. You look

1004
00:56:39,867 --> 00:56:43,427
Speaker 2: around the New Zealand Super Rugby franchises and the players

1005
00:56:43,427 --> 00:56:47,947
Speaker 2: who are wearing the ten jersey most often. And even

1006
00:56:48,027 --> 00:56:51,667
Speaker 2: though he's in the same team as Damien McKenzie, he's

1007
00:56:51,707 --> 00:56:57,187
Speaker 2: actually played ten more than dmac has. He's had six

1008
00:56:57,507 --> 00:57:03,267
Speaker 2: starts there whereas Damien McKenzie's had the other four and

1009
00:57:03,347 --> 00:57:05,867
Speaker 2: the ten games they've played this season, and as Josh

1010
00:57:05,947 --> 00:57:08,987
Speaker 2: jack and there, you know, the start of the season

1011
00:57:09,067 --> 00:57:13,907
Speaker 2: before Shawn Stephenson came back, it was I guess the

1012
00:57:13,947 --> 00:57:18,147
Speaker 2: cards fell in his favor a little bit in that

1013
00:57:18,187 --> 00:57:19,987
Speaker 2: there was, you know, there was a ten to fifteen

1014
00:57:20,467 --> 00:57:23,907
Speaker 2: gap and Damien McKenzie clearly able to play both. So

1015
00:57:24,027 --> 00:57:26,347
Speaker 2: he wore the fifteen jumper for the first three games

1016
00:57:26,347 --> 00:57:30,787
Speaker 2: and then took over once Shawn Stephenson got back. But

1017
00:57:33,147 --> 00:57:35,587
Speaker 2: I just think he's a yeah, he's a good he's

1018
00:57:35,627 --> 00:57:38,427
Speaker 2: a very good prospect. Josh Jacob. If you've seen him

1019
00:57:38,427 --> 00:57:40,387
Speaker 2: play more often than perhaps the rest of us have,

1020
00:57:40,467 --> 00:57:42,787
Speaker 2: you've been a Chiefs fan for a while, even for

1021
00:57:42,827 --> 00:57:44,507
Speaker 2: taranak Be. Came to get your thoughts on this, Oh,

1022
00:57:44,547 --> 00:57:48,067
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Chiefs fans, your you

1023
00:57:48,147 --> 00:57:54,227
Speaker 2: are notoriously and traditionally reticent to sing your own praises,

1024
00:57:54,707 --> 00:57:59,267
Speaker 2: But again last night another terrific second half performance. The

1025
00:57:59,347 --> 00:58:01,987
Speaker 2: loss of the Warrators a couple of weeks ago seems

1026
00:58:02,067 --> 00:58:05,907
Speaker 2: like a distant memory now. It is quite a quite

1027
00:58:05,947 --> 00:58:08,427
Speaker 2: a challengeing running though for the Chiefs. I have to say,

1028
00:58:08,467 --> 00:58:11,347
Speaker 2: you look at who they've got left to play. And

1029
00:58:11,427 --> 00:58:18,827
Speaker 2: I mentioned the Blues before before one o'clock as are

1030
00:58:18,947 --> 00:58:23,827
Speaker 2: running for them, and it's not as challenging the Blues

1031
00:58:23,907 --> 00:58:30,067
Speaker 2: running Force Drewer, Maana Pacifica Waratahs. That's the Blues running.

1032
00:58:30,667 --> 00:58:37,067
Speaker 2: The Chiefs running Hurricanes, Crusaders Majana Pacifica Highlanders. That is

1033
00:58:37,107 --> 00:58:40,427
Speaker 2: a lot tougher. And I think the derbies are might

1034
00:58:40,467 --> 00:58:46,947
Speaker 2: all be away, the traditional derbies, I mean Hurricanes away

1035
00:58:46,987 --> 00:58:53,387
Speaker 2: next Saturday, Crusaders away the following Saturday, Maana Pacifica at

1036
00:58:53,387 --> 00:58:56,627
Speaker 2: home once they've had a buy, and then Highlanders away.

1037
00:58:56,867 --> 00:58:59,587
Speaker 2: That is a tough running for the Chiefs. But I

1038
00:58:59,587 --> 00:59:02,467
Speaker 2: still think their favorite. You watch the way they play,

1039
00:59:02,547 --> 00:59:07,387
Speaker 2: they just seem to be and this is probably fairly

1040
00:59:07,507 --> 00:59:10,347
Speaker 2: self evident. They just seem to be better than everybody else.

1041
00:59:11,307 --> 00:59:13,747
Speaker 2: And with Wallace Tatiti now coming back, and as Josh

1042
00:59:13,867 --> 00:59:17,867
Speaker 2: Jacob mentioned there with them coming back and pretty much

1043
00:59:17,907 --> 00:59:21,187
Speaker 2: straight away doing what we saw Wallace Atiti do so

1044
00:59:21,267 --> 00:59:24,787
Speaker 2: often last year, running with ball in hand, seemingly like

1045
00:59:24,827 --> 00:59:28,227
Speaker 2: he'd never been away. When you can add the you know,

1046
00:59:28,347 --> 00:59:31,507
Speaker 2: the player of the year back into your team for

1047
00:59:31,587 --> 00:59:35,227
Speaker 2: the run into finals and then finals themselves, you've got

1048
00:59:35,227 --> 00:59:39,627
Speaker 2: to be favorite, don't you. You got to be definitely

1049
00:59:39,707 --> 00:59:42,987
Speaker 2: a level headed ten says this text must there's no

1050
00:59:43,067 --> 00:59:46,747
Speaker 2: piney think you guys from the Hurricanes Rubin Love. I

1051
00:59:46,787 --> 00:59:49,867
Speaker 2: haven't seen enough of a body of work from Ruben Love.

1052
00:59:49,907 --> 00:59:51,307
Speaker 2: I have to say I think he'll be in the

1053
00:59:51,347 --> 00:59:53,747
Speaker 2: All Blacks he was last year. I think we back

1054
00:59:53,787 --> 00:59:55,707
Speaker 2: there and maybe he'll wear ten for the All Blacks

1055
00:59:55,707 --> 00:59:58,747
Speaker 2: at some stage. But as a specialist first five eight

1056
01:00:00,067 --> 01:00:03,147
Speaker 2: Josh Jacob, I thinks your man like what I see

1057
01:00:03,147 --> 01:00:05,387
Speaker 2: from the guy, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty,

1058
01:00:05,387 --> 01:00:07,147
Speaker 2: if you'd like to comment on that, And also are

1059
01:00:07,147 --> 01:00:09,147
Speaker 2: the Warriors. We didn't get the chance to take too

1060
01:00:09,147 --> 01:00:11,467
Speaker 2: many calls before one o'clock. We ran out of time,

1061
01:00:11,507 --> 01:00:14,787
Speaker 2: but can take them now. On a couple of issues.

1062
01:00:14,787 --> 01:00:18,107
Speaker 2: One the Warriors in christ Church, it just looked amazing.

1063
01:00:19,547 --> 01:00:22,347
Speaker 2: I know it's it's not the same as when you

1064
01:00:22,427 --> 01:00:24,667
Speaker 2: play somewhere every week, although the Warriors fan base are

1065
01:00:24,707 --> 01:00:27,187
Speaker 2: great wherever they play, but it just seemed like there's

1066
01:00:27,827 --> 01:00:32,587
Speaker 2: just an appetite down there for high quality sport of

1067
01:00:33,147 --> 01:00:36,907
Speaker 2: all types. And if you were there last night, how

1068
01:00:37,067 --> 01:00:39,827
Speaker 2: was it, oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and

1069
01:00:39,867 --> 01:00:41,707
Speaker 2: if you weren't, but you want to give us your

1070
01:00:41,787 --> 01:00:45,107
Speaker 2: view on the Warriors as far as their season is concerned.

1071
01:00:45,827 --> 01:00:52,027
Speaker 2: Five and two joint best ever start after seven games,

1072
01:00:52,187 --> 01:00:54,507
Speaker 2: joint with twenty eighteen when they were also five and two.

1073
01:00:54,547 --> 01:00:56,667
Speaker 2: They made it to the playoffs that year but didn't

1074
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Speaker 2: get much further than the first round. From memory, how

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Speaker 2: do you assess? How do you evaluate where the Warriors are?

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01:01:04,387 --> 01:01:08,387
Speaker 2: Seven games into their season? It still too early to tell.

1077
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Speaker 2: I don't think it is Seven games is a reasonable

1078
01:01:10,867 --> 01:01:13,707
Speaker 2: body of work, isn't it. It's a reasonable number of

1079
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Speaker 2: games to make an assessment, especially, like I said to

1080
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Speaker 2: Adam Pompe before one o'clock, the fact that they bounced

1081
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Speaker 2: back from disappointment. First up that Raiders game, they you know,

1082
01:01:27,787 --> 01:01:30,587
Speaker 2: they just flushed it. Beat the Seagles, beat the Roosters,

1083
01:01:30,627 --> 01:01:33,707
Speaker 2: beat the Tigers, then lost to the Storm after that

1084
01:01:33,747 --> 01:01:38,067
Speaker 2: horrendous first half. But then bounce back beat the Broncos,

1085
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Speaker 2: beat the Knights. They've got resilience, They've got bounced back ability.

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Speaker 2: Is it our year? Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

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01:01:46,427 --> 01:01:48,867
Speaker 2: eighty nine, two ninety two if you would like to

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Speaker 2: correspond by text talking about a Super Rugby and a

1089
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Speaker 2: bit of NRL and the Warriors. When we come back

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Speaker 1: Weekends for it.

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Speaker 2: On news talks there'd be one thirty talking Warriors and

1112
01:03:06,467 --> 01:03:10,307
Speaker 2: super Rugby. You are well. You choose Paul Warrior's chat

1113
01:03:10,387 --> 01:03:11,147
Speaker 2: from you, no doubt?

1114
01:03:12,667 --> 01:03:17,947
Speaker 8: Yeah, opponent, Yeah, absolutely. Atmosphere fantastic down there.

1115
01:03:18,027 --> 01:03:18,467
Speaker 5: Last night.

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Speaker 8: I watched it down at the Viaduct in Auckland and

1117
01:03:23,147 --> 01:03:24,667
Speaker 8: one of the bars down there and it was it

1118
01:03:24,707 --> 01:03:26,627
Speaker 8: was going off. The atmosphere was going off there too.

1119
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Speaker 8: So but you mentioned the word when you were talking

1120
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Speaker 8: to Adam Pompey. I've been trying to think of words

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Speaker 8: to sum up where they are at the moment and

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Speaker 8: you said the word resilient, and to me that.

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Speaker 12: That's that sums them up.

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Speaker 8: They just got this resilience about them. It's it's a

1125
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Speaker 8: never no surrender, you know, like they have, say maybe

1126
01:03:45,467 --> 01:03:47,347
Speaker 8: in the past. You know, you look back to that

1127
01:03:47,507 --> 01:03:49,667
Speaker 8: Storm game where they were blown off the park on

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Speaker 8: the first half and they came back and held the

1129
01:03:52,547 --> 01:03:55,107
Speaker 8: Storm trialists in the second half, you know, and and

1130
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Speaker 8: the following week obviously, you know, we touch up teams

1131
01:03:58,387 --> 01:04:01,627
Speaker 8: like the Broncos and the Roosters, and very very happy

1132
01:04:01,667 --> 01:04:05,027
Speaker 8: with where they're at, you know. And and they're talking

1133
01:04:05,027 --> 01:04:08,067
Speaker 8: about the interviewed Charms Nickel clock stand and he's had

1134
01:04:08,107 --> 01:04:10,987
Speaker 8: offers from from England to going under pound, but he

1135
01:04:11,547 --> 01:04:14,267
Speaker 8: elected to stay here because you know, and I've heard

1136
01:04:14,307 --> 01:04:16,907
Speaker 8: I've heard them say that they're building on something at

1137
01:04:16,907 --> 01:04:20,067
Speaker 8: the club. You know, they're building. Something's brewing, something's building.

1138
01:04:20,107 --> 01:04:22,387
Speaker 8: And it's not just the top side. It's the Harold

1139
01:04:22,387 --> 01:04:24,427
Speaker 8: Matthews that are in the finals below them. It's the

1140
01:04:24,547 --> 01:04:27,667
Speaker 8: new South Wales Cup. It's a very exciting time for

1141
01:04:27,747 --> 01:04:28,467
Speaker 8: the club mate.

1142
01:04:28,747 --> 01:04:30,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh look, I couldn't agree more. And you look

1143
01:04:30,667 --> 01:04:33,667
Speaker 2: at the ages of some of the players, and you know,

1144
01:04:33,947 --> 01:04:36,547
Speaker 2: players come and go obviously, and there are still some

1145
01:04:36,627 --> 01:04:40,107
Speaker 2: experienced heads out there, likes of Wade Egan and Mitch

1146
01:04:40,107 --> 01:04:41,787
Speaker 2: Barnett and guys are that, but some of these young

1147
01:04:42,147 --> 01:04:45,627
Speaker 2: young girl players, you know Hella Seema, I mean, what

1148
01:04:45,707 --> 01:04:46,507
Speaker 2: a player he could be.

1149
01:04:47,747 --> 01:04:48,307
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1150
01:04:48,427 --> 01:04:50,427
Speaker 8: Yeah, And when you look at what we've got to

1151
01:04:50,467 --> 01:04:52,667
Speaker 8: come back, and that's the other good thing about that

1152
01:04:52,747 --> 01:04:55,427
Speaker 8: win last week. That just goes to show the normally

1153
01:04:55,467 --> 01:04:58,307
Speaker 8: of that win last week. We saw the Broncos have

1154
01:04:58,387 --> 01:05:00,627
Speaker 8: a big win on the weekend, you know, and you

1155
01:05:00,627 --> 01:05:03,347
Speaker 8: know we dealt to the Broncos last week. We were

1156
01:05:03,467 --> 01:05:06,187
Speaker 8: under strength. They were at full strength. So that puts

1157
01:05:06,187 --> 01:05:09,027
Speaker 8: the came into perspective. And we've got players to come back,

1158
01:05:09,027 --> 01:05:12,107
Speaker 8: you know, Roger and Dyllan and so forth. So you know,

1159
01:05:12,147 --> 01:05:14,067
Speaker 8: we don't want to sort of get ahead of ourselves.

1160
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Speaker 8: But like they keep saying, they're building and yeah, it's exciting, mate, I.

1161
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Speaker 2: Said just for you saying that. Roger, Toy Basshek and

1162
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Speaker 2: Dellan what tennis early. Yeah, I hadn't forgotten about them necessarily, Paul,

1163
01:05:25,227 --> 01:05:27,587
Speaker 2: but I almost had forgotten about them. Of course they're

1164
01:05:27,627 --> 01:05:29,147
Speaker 2: coming back at some stage, aren't they.

1165
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Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, and then you've got James Fisher Harris to

1166
01:05:32,187 --> 01:05:34,907
Speaker 8: come back in. It's good to see Rocco, you know,

1167
01:05:35,067 --> 01:05:36,907
Speaker 8: I think with the Roco with us a few more

1168
01:05:36,947 --> 01:05:41,067
Speaker 8: games than it was about. You know, when that ball

1169
01:05:41,147 --> 01:05:43,707
Speaker 8: goes downtown, you know he's the first one down.

1170
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Speaker 12: They're putting pressure on.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean, if there's one criticism, I suppose

1172
01:05:49,547 --> 01:05:52,467
Speaker 8: that's our finishing. Some of our attack.

1173
01:05:53,627 --> 01:05:54,747
Speaker 2: Is a bit.

1174
01:05:56,307 --> 01:05:59,867
Speaker 8: These are things that are fixable, mate, And yeah, so

1175
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Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to the magic round. I'm counting on

1176
01:06:03,107 --> 01:06:05,587
Speaker 8: him to fu stuck the cowboys up there and and

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Speaker 8: he knows where we go from here.

1178
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Speaker 5: Mate.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, Paul, good the chat league with you as always, Mate,

1180
01:06:10,027 --> 01:06:12,747
Speaker 2: Always enjoy your analysis. Thanks for calling in Our eight

1181
01:06:12,787 --> 01:06:15,227
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number if you

1182
01:06:15,347 --> 01:06:18,667
Speaker 2: like to comment on the Warriors or or on Super Rugby,

1183
01:06:19,307 --> 01:06:23,067
Speaker 2: but of a two pronged talk back scenario at the moment,

1184
01:06:23,107 --> 01:06:25,267
Speaker 2: I think you want to talk about both, Jamie. Shall

1185
01:06:25,267 --> 01:06:26,747
Speaker 2: we start with the Warriors?

1186
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Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah, definitely liking what I'm seeing, especially

1187
01:06:33,347 --> 01:06:36,707
Speaker 12: you're missing a few key players. It's yeah, great to

1188
01:06:36,707 --> 01:06:40,147
Speaker 12: see that the next players are sort of, you know,

1189
01:06:40,747 --> 01:06:43,747
Speaker 12: senor the senior players or obviously leaving the way. But

1190
01:06:43,827 --> 01:06:45,467
Speaker 12: then the others is steeping up as well.

1191
01:06:47,987 --> 01:06:50,787
Speaker 2: Oh look I couldn't yeah, yeah, no, look I was

1192
01:06:50,827 --> 01:06:53,307
Speaker 2: just nodding my head in agreement, Jamie. I couldn't agree more.

1193
01:06:53,347 --> 01:06:55,987
Speaker 2: You look at at when you lose players. Like I

1194
01:06:55,987 --> 01:07:00,187
Speaker 2: said to Paul when we were just chatting, there you've

1195
01:07:00,227 --> 01:07:03,107
Speaker 2: almost forgotten in the last couple of games that there's

1196
01:07:03,147 --> 01:07:06,187
Speaker 2: been no Delan watenis Eis knee act. There's been no

1197
01:07:06,387 --> 01:07:09,547
Speaker 2: Roger doing vasachek, there's been no James Fisher, Harris. They've

1198
01:07:09,547 --> 01:07:11,467
Speaker 2: all got double barrel soon names. Haven't know these guys

1199
01:07:12,347 --> 01:07:15,547
Speaker 2: you forget? You forget, don't you because other guys? They

1200
01:07:15,547 --> 01:07:17,827
Speaker 2: always say in any sporting team, and the Warriors are

1201
01:07:18,067 --> 01:07:21,987
Speaker 2: no different. It's a next man up mentality because injuries happen,

1202
01:07:22,187 --> 01:07:24,387
Speaker 2: particularly in a physical game like rugby league. And I've

1203
01:07:24,467 --> 01:07:27,667
Speaker 2: just been utterly impressed with the guys who have stepped up.

1204
01:07:29,147 --> 01:07:29,347
Speaker 5: Yep.

1205
01:07:29,867 --> 01:07:31,667
Speaker 12: I think they should should make the top eight this

1206
01:07:31,787 --> 01:07:35,067
Speaker 12: year if they win most of their home games and

1207
01:07:35,067 --> 01:07:38,827
Speaker 12: some on the road. I mean that would be people

1208
01:07:38,867 --> 01:07:40,827
Speaker 12: of a challenge over the next few weeks with a

1209
01:07:41,067 --> 01:07:43,667
Speaker 12: couple of games on the road. But yeah, they're looking goods.

1210
01:07:44,227 --> 01:07:48,307
Speaker 12: And also that young guy from the Chiefs, Yes, I

1211
01:07:48,347 --> 01:07:50,587
Speaker 12: saw them, remember seeing them last year in the NBC

1212
01:07:50,787 --> 01:07:53,227
Speaker 12: and what I was quite impressed with them the air

1213
01:07:53,267 --> 01:07:57,747
Speaker 12: and I think with what's his name the guy from

1214
01:07:57,787 --> 01:08:01,507
Speaker 12: the Godfrey from the Blues is sort of leaving at

1215
01:08:01,547 --> 01:08:04,227
Speaker 12: the end of Super Rugby, I think years probably the

1216
01:08:04,307 --> 01:08:08,187
Speaker 12: best candidate to be the number three two for the

1217
01:08:08,307 --> 01:08:08,667
Speaker 12: or Blicks.

1218
01:08:09,147 --> 01:08:11,987
Speaker 2: Yeah. Harry Plumber, Yeah, Harry Plumber leaving the Blues to

1219
01:08:12,027 --> 01:08:15,347
Speaker 2: go overseas. Yeah. And Josh Jacob. Look I I and

1220
01:08:15,387 --> 01:08:18,187
Speaker 2: not just because you look around and there and there

1221
01:08:18,227 --> 01:08:21,147
Speaker 2: aren't others who are playing at first five and playing

1222
01:08:21,187 --> 01:08:23,827
Speaker 2: pretty well. But I was just, like I say, again

1223
01:08:23,947 --> 01:08:26,027
Speaker 2: below the Warriors. Actually, I was just really impressed with

1224
01:08:26,027 --> 01:08:28,627
Speaker 2: a call head on his relatively young shoulders. I mean,

1225
01:08:28,667 --> 01:08:32,307
Speaker 2: it can't be easy, you know, to step into Damien

1226
01:08:32,387 --> 01:08:36,707
Speaker 2: McKenzie's position when the blokes all around you are established players.

1227
01:08:36,707 --> 01:08:39,347
Speaker 2: But then again, maybe that is it. Maybe they're they

1228
01:08:39,427 --> 01:08:42,747
Speaker 2: just wrapped such a such a secure blanket around the guy.

1229
01:08:43,227 --> 01:08:44,867
Speaker 2: Give him the keys to the carringers. Let him do

1230
01:08:44,867 --> 01:08:47,187
Speaker 2: his thing. I yeah, he's been playing well for Tallanhaky

1231
01:08:47,227 --> 01:08:49,507
Speaker 2: for a while now. Deserved his chance to the wider

1232
01:08:49,547 --> 01:08:52,067
Speaker 2: training group last year, deserves his chance as a fully

1233
01:08:52,067 --> 01:08:52,907
Speaker 2: fledging member this year.

1234
01:08:52,947 --> 01:08:53,067
Speaker 6: Look.

1235
01:08:53,107 --> 01:08:55,547
Speaker 2: I fully expected at some stage you'll be in all black.

1236
01:08:55,547 --> 01:08:56,947
Speaker 2: It could even be this year, Jamie.

1237
01:08:57,627 --> 01:09:00,867
Speaker 12: Yeah, yep, it's one hundred percent. Never got afternoon plenty you.

1238
01:09:00,827 --> 01:09:02,507
Speaker 2: Ever got afternoon to Jamie? Good to chat to you,

1239
01:09:02,707 --> 01:09:05,467
Speaker 2: O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you've seen

1240
01:09:05,467 --> 01:09:07,627
Speaker 2: a bit of Josh Jacob, like the cut of the

1241
01:09:07,627 --> 01:09:11,947
Speaker 2: guy's gibbi, you know he's. Yeah, he's as good as

1242
01:09:12,387 --> 01:09:15,187
Speaker 2: anybody else going around at the moment in terms of

1243
01:09:15,187 --> 01:09:18,987
Speaker 2: first fives, isn't he. The Crusaders will beat the Chiefs

1244
01:09:19,147 --> 01:09:21,387
Speaker 2: since this text and go on to win the comp, well,

1245
01:09:21,387 --> 01:09:24,627
Speaker 2: they may well do. We may well be on target

1246
01:09:24,707 --> 01:09:28,507
Speaker 2: for a Crusaders Chiefs final. Again. We had that two

1247
01:09:28,587 --> 01:09:32,027
Speaker 2: years ago, didn't we. When the Chiefs had that really

1248
01:09:32,067 --> 01:09:35,227
Speaker 2: good season they won I can't even remember how many

1249
01:09:35,267 --> 01:09:37,147
Speaker 2: games they won in a row. They might have lost

1250
01:09:37,187 --> 01:09:39,187
Speaker 2: one right at the end of the season. The regular

1251
01:09:39,227 --> 01:09:44,147
Speaker 2: season went through and hosted the final against the Crusaders.

1252
01:09:44,147 --> 01:09:45,787
Speaker 2: But the Crusaders went up to Hamilton and did a

1253
01:09:45,867 --> 01:09:48,867
Speaker 2: number on them. That was raisers last year, wasn't it.

1254
01:09:48,907 --> 01:09:55,907
Speaker 2: As Crusaders coach, they are looking as good this year.

1255
01:09:55,947 --> 01:09:59,947
Speaker 2: I reckon they've got a full suite of very, very

1256
01:09:59,987 --> 01:10:02,947
Speaker 2: good players. They've actually gone quite deep into their squad.

1257
01:10:02,947 --> 01:10:05,347
Speaker 2: I noticed this the other day. They've used thirty eight

1258
01:10:05,427 --> 01:10:09,227
Speaker 2: players already the Chiefs. By contrast, if you look at

1259
01:10:09,227 --> 01:10:11,427
Speaker 2: some of the other sides, the Hurricanes have only used

1260
01:10:11,787 --> 01:10:16,147
Speaker 2: thirty five for example, the Blues have used thirty seven.

1261
01:10:16,667 --> 01:10:20,667
Speaker 2: The Highlanders. Actually, the Highlanders have used plenty forty one

1262
01:10:21,227 --> 01:10:23,867
Speaker 2: different players for the Highlanders this year, so I guess

1263
01:10:23,907 --> 01:10:25,707
Speaker 2: they're all getting deep at the stage of the season.

1264
01:10:25,747 --> 01:10:28,267
Speaker 2: But next man up I talked about it before. The

1265
01:10:28,307 --> 01:10:31,027
Speaker 2: Chiefs have certainly got that mentality as well. Next man

1266
01:10:31,107 --> 01:10:35,947
Speaker 2: up guys are performing. Andre says the Warriors won't win

1267
01:10:35,947 --> 01:10:38,507
Speaker 2: anything without a seventy five percent kicker. Yeah, that's the

1268
01:10:38,547 --> 01:10:41,507
Speaker 2: only thing about I guess that Luke Metcalf has to

1269
01:10:41,547 --> 01:10:44,347
Speaker 2: work on his kicking. He landed that one. I think

1270
01:10:44,347 --> 01:10:48,147
Speaker 2: he converted the first try from Adam Pompey last night,

1271
01:10:48,147 --> 01:10:53,267
Speaker 2: which was scored quite wide out. He missed the conversion

1272
01:10:53,267 --> 01:10:57,427
Speaker 2: from a similar position after Jackson Ford's first try. Second

1273
01:10:57,467 --> 01:10:59,347
Speaker 2: troll was under the sticks. That was an easy conversion.

1274
01:10:59,587 --> 01:11:01,467
Speaker 2: He got that one. He missed the one of Wade Egans,

1275
01:11:01,467 --> 01:11:07,027
Speaker 2: and then Taine tu old Pike took over and converted

1276
01:11:07,507 --> 01:11:12,267
Speaker 2: Adam Pompey's second try. I was sort of wondering during

1277
01:11:12,267 --> 01:11:17,467
Speaker 2: the week why Adam Pompey himself wasn't kicking. I seem

1278
01:11:17,507 --> 01:11:19,667
Speaker 2: to remember last year. I'm pretty sure I'm right on

1279
01:11:19,747 --> 01:11:24,347
Speaker 2: this that when Sean Johnson wasn't playing, it was Adam

1280
01:11:24,387 --> 01:11:28,307
Speaker 2: Pompey who was doing the kicking, wasn't he. I'm just

1281
01:11:28,307 --> 01:11:31,027
Speaker 2: going to check whether I've completely made that up. No,

1282
01:11:31,067 --> 01:11:35,187
Speaker 2: I haven't. Last year he kicked twenty two conversions and

1283
01:11:35,267 --> 01:11:40,507
Speaker 2: three penalties. So Sean Johnson was the kicker obviously when

1284
01:11:40,547 --> 01:11:43,347
Speaker 2: he was playing, but it was Adam Pompey who stepped

1285
01:11:43,387 --> 01:11:45,307
Speaker 2: up to I should have actually asked Adam Pompy that one.

1286
01:11:45,387 --> 01:11:47,707
Speaker 2: I had him on the phone last hour, Why aren't

1287
01:11:47,747 --> 01:11:52,107
Speaker 2: your kicking mate? I like that Luke Metcalfur's you know,

1288
01:11:52,187 --> 01:11:56,907
Speaker 2: wants the responsibility, and that was evidenced no better way

1289
01:11:56,907 --> 01:12:00,067
Speaker 2: than last week when he took that golden point penalty

1290
01:12:00,467 --> 01:12:02,947
Speaker 2: to beat the Broncos. But the fact remains, he does

1291
01:12:02,987 --> 01:12:04,787
Speaker 2: have to He does have to kick a few more,

1292
01:12:04,827 --> 01:12:07,947
Speaker 2: doesn't he He does have to kick a few more.

1293
01:12:08,107 --> 01:12:11,547
Speaker 2: It's a good point that you make. Andre Derek thoughts

1294
01:12:11,547 --> 01:12:12,187
Speaker 2: on the Warriors.

1295
01:12:13,147 --> 01:12:16,547
Speaker 6: Oh look, I loved it, loving watching the Warriors this year.

1296
01:12:16,867 --> 01:12:19,507
Speaker 6: Obviously going away to Vegas is always going to be

1297
01:12:19,507 --> 01:12:21,907
Speaker 6: a weird experience, so sort of chalk that off. And

1298
01:12:22,627 --> 01:12:25,307
Speaker 6: I mean I love the way the New Zealand media

1299
01:12:25,427 --> 01:12:27,707
Speaker 6: described their lost down in Melbourne. Anyone will think that

1300
01:12:27,787 --> 01:12:29,507
Speaker 6: people go down to Melbourne all the time and when

1301
01:12:31,387 --> 01:12:32,547
Speaker 6: I think they've lost twenty in a.

1302
01:12:32,547 --> 01:12:35,627
Speaker 2: Row or something, yeah, I think we just write it

1303
01:12:35,667 --> 01:12:37,427
Speaker 2: off every year. I just think, look what I got

1304
01:12:37,427 --> 01:12:39,427
Speaker 2: to win that game. That's okay, It's a collateral damage,

1305
01:12:39,467 --> 01:12:39,627
Speaker 2: you know.

1306
01:12:40,947 --> 01:12:45,067
Speaker 6: Like they're just such a hardened professional outfit in a

1307
01:12:45,147 --> 01:12:47,707
Speaker 6: city where I'm pretty sure I read something where they

1308
01:12:47,747 --> 01:12:49,547
Speaker 6: say they've only had two home ground players in the

1309
01:12:49,587 --> 01:12:51,827
Speaker 6: last twenty years. I mean, they just they bring in

1310
01:12:51,867 --> 01:12:52,387
Speaker 6: their players.

1311
01:12:52,387 --> 01:12:53,067
Speaker 5: That's sort of like.

1312
01:12:52,987 --> 01:12:56,587
Speaker 6: An isolation in AFL country, aren't they. And it's not

1313
01:12:56,667 --> 01:12:59,987
Speaker 6: like they get distracted the players they're fully focused, especially

1314
01:12:59,987 --> 01:13:02,747
Speaker 6: when you consider the coach they've got is, shall we say,

1315
01:13:03,387 --> 01:13:05,827
Speaker 6: a little bit on agent times. And now you've got

1316
01:13:05,867 --> 01:13:09,227
Speaker 6: the Warriors traveling down last night down to Cristation and

1317
01:13:09,547 --> 01:13:11,347
Speaker 6: putting on a real show in front of them, and

1318
01:13:11,467 --> 01:13:13,867
Speaker 6: once again another packed crowd. They really packed the crowds

1319
01:13:13,907 --> 01:13:16,387
Speaker 6: out in this country, don't they. I haven't concern though

1320
01:13:17,307 --> 01:13:19,747
Speaker 6: with the comment just before the game where they said

1321
01:13:19,747 --> 01:13:22,307
Speaker 6: that they've they've done us and now look correct me

1322
01:13:22,347 --> 01:13:23,907
Speaker 6: if I'm wrong, but it looks like they've signed a

1323
01:13:23,947 --> 01:13:27,267
Speaker 6: three game deal with the new stadium over the next

1324
01:13:27,307 --> 01:13:29,387
Speaker 6: three years. So that's just one game every year in

1325
01:13:29,427 --> 01:13:32,307
Speaker 6: the next three years. And I was talking to a

1326
01:13:32,347 --> 01:13:34,067
Speaker 6: couple of guys at work. We were having an argument

1327
01:13:34,067 --> 01:13:36,227
Speaker 6: about that this was a home game for the Warriors

1328
01:13:36,347 --> 01:13:38,187
Speaker 6: or not. And of course two of these guys I

1329
01:13:38,227 --> 01:13:40,467
Speaker 6: was talking to are both season ticket holders, and they're

1330
01:13:40,467 --> 01:13:42,987
Speaker 6: looking to get a season ticket again for next year.

1331
01:13:43,507 --> 01:13:44,827
Speaker 6: And I was sicking of it, and they were sort

1332
01:13:44,827 --> 01:13:48,027
Speaker 6: of saying, well, if they're going to take our you know,

1333
01:13:48,067 --> 01:13:51,267
Speaker 6: the Mount Smart games away from the home, away from

1334
01:13:51,267 --> 01:13:55,347
Speaker 6: the base, I mean, how how's that an incentive? Ore

1335
01:13:55,387 --> 01:13:57,027
Speaker 6: they going to get some kind of incentive when they

1336
01:13:57,067 --> 01:13:59,387
Speaker 6: get their season tickets and of course this year when

1337
01:13:59,387 --> 01:14:01,347
Speaker 6: it comes to Aalkland their sea. I haven't bought a

1338
01:14:01,347 --> 01:14:02,987
Speaker 6: season ticket. I've just been going to all the games

1339
01:14:02,987 --> 01:14:05,187
Speaker 6: and I'm actually a moment of preparing to go to

1340
01:14:05,187 --> 01:14:07,067
Speaker 6: tomorrow's game and really looking for or do it actually

1341
01:14:07,147 --> 01:14:09,827
Speaker 6: as I have for all the games. But they if

1342
01:14:09,827 --> 01:14:11,667
Speaker 6: I was to get a season ticket next year, which

1343
01:14:11,707 --> 01:14:15,907
Speaker 6: is my plan, I would be pretty disappointed to think

1344
01:14:15,947 --> 01:14:19,427
Speaker 6: that they'll they'll be taken away our home games around

1345
01:14:19,467 --> 01:14:21,267
Speaker 6: the rest of the country. I mean, it's a slightly

1346
01:14:21,267 --> 01:14:24,267
Speaker 6: different situation. Whereas it's Auckland FC. You know they named Auckland,

1347
01:14:24,307 --> 01:14:26,667
Speaker 6: so it's an Auckland club. But this is slightly different

1348
01:14:26,707 --> 01:14:29,627
Speaker 6: Warriors more of like a New Zealand club. Even though

1349
01:14:29,667 --> 01:14:33,707
Speaker 6: David Moffatt doesn't probably probably disagree with me, but I

1350
01:14:33,747 --> 01:14:37,187
Speaker 6: wonder how Warriors fans would think at the moment when

1351
01:14:37,187 --> 01:14:39,107
Speaker 6: they come down from all the adrenaliness the club has

1352
01:14:39,107 --> 01:14:41,707
Speaker 6: been given them in the last this season so far,

1353
01:14:41,707 --> 01:14:44,267
Speaker 6: where they've been winning some great games. I mean, come on,

1354
01:14:44,587 --> 01:14:46,947
Speaker 6: I mean I saw the Roosters had that wonderful win

1355
01:14:47,307 --> 01:14:49,667
Speaker 6: away at Penrith and then the Warriors turned them over

1356
01:14:49,707 --> 01:14:52,187
Speaker 6: the next week. And I saw a fantastic match at

1357
01:14:52,227 --> 01:14:54,707
Speaker 6: Brookvale with Manly early in the season after the Warriors

1358
01:14:54,707 --> 01:14:56,947
Speaker 6: had lost in Vegas, and then they came them out

1359
01:14:56,947 --> 01:14:59,067
Speaker 6: smart and they got turned over again by the Warriors.

1360
01:14:59,067 --> 01:15:01,187
Speaker 6: And now the Warriors turned over the Broncos last week

1361
01:15:01,227 --> 01:15:02,947
Speaker 6: and one of the most exciting guys I've ever seen.

1362
01:15:03,347 --> 01:15:04,907
Speaker 6: You know. So things are great at the moment for

1363
01:15:04,907 --> 01:15:07,387
Speaker 6: the club. But if you're a season ticket Jason, the

1364
01:15:07,427 --> 01:15:11,107
Speaker 6: big question is are they gonna What's this about taking

1365
01:15:11,227 --> 01:15:14,147
Speaker 6: home games away from Mount Smart Stadium?

1366
01:15:14,227 --> 01:15:14,467
Speaker 5: Is that?

1367
01:15:15,187 --> 01:15:16,707
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't want to question what the club

1368
01:15:16,827 --> 01:15:19,547
Speaker 6: is doing because clearly off the field they're doing making

1369
01:15:19,547 --> 01:15:21,827
Speaker 6: a lot of good decisions, but it would concern me

1370
01:15:21,907 --> 01:15:24,347
Speaker 6: if I was a Warrior season ticket holder looking to

1371
01:15:24,427 --> 01:15:25,827
Speaker 6: buy a season ticket for next year.

1372
01:15:26,147 --> 01:15:29,067
Speaker 2: Yeah, Eric, I totally get what you're saying. And look,

1373
01:15:29,347 --> 01:15:31,587
Speaker 2: as you'll know that, you know, the Wellington Phoenix have

1374
01:15:31,627 --> 01:15:34,307
Speaker 2: taken games away pretty much every year, and it's the

1375
01:15:34,347 --> 01:15:37,707
Speaker 2: great It's the great conundrum, isn't it spreading the spreading

1376
01:15:37,747 --> 01:15:40,747
Speaker 2: the good word around the country versus as you say,

1377
01:15:41,427 --> 01:15:45,107
Speaker 2: remaining you know, remaining available every week or every other

1378
01:15:45,147 --> 01:15:47,587
Speaker 2: week to your loyal fan base, and I guess every

1379
01:15:47,707 --> 01:15:49,747
Speaker 2: elite sporting team has to has to come up with

1380
01:15:49,787 --> 01:15:54,467
Speaker 2: a solution. Only twelve home games for for all of

1381
01:15:54,507 --> 01:15:58,147
Speaker 2: the NRL teams, so yeah, what I mean eleven eleven

1382
01:15:58,387 --> 01:16:00,827
Speaker 2: go Media and one in christ Church. That's going to

1383
01:16:00,827 --> 01:16:04,027
Speaker 2: be the situation over the next three years. For a

1384
01:16:04,027 --> 01:16:06,107
Speaker 2: while the Ore the Phoenix were taking two and sometimes

1385
01:16:06,187 --> 01:16:09,387
Speaker 2: three three games away. I think that's kind of stretching

1386
01:16:09,387 --> 01:16:10,587
Speaker 2: at a bit. I'm not sure you want to take

1387
01:16:10,627 --> 01:16:13,027
Speaker 2: too many more than that away from your loyal fans,

1388
01:16:13,027 --> 01:16:14,867
Speaker 2: but it's a good point you makee Derek, thanks for

1389
01:16:14,907 --> 01:16:17,907
Speaker 2: calling through, mate. Phil says, I don't know if it's

1390
01:16:17,907 --> 01:16:19,427
Speaker 2: our year, Pinety, but the Warriors do seem to be

1391
01:16:19,427 --> 01:16:24,267
Speaker 2: showing some resilience and the teams they've lost to have

1392
01:16:24,307 --> 01:16:27,227
Speaker 2: been pretty good teams. Yeah, that's right, Phil and Warriors comment.

1393
01:16:27,307 --> 01:16:30,747
Speaker 2: Maryland from Maryland. I think the young bench players have

1394
01:16:30,787 --> 01:16:32,987
Speaker 2: made a big difference this year. They make very few errors,

1395
01:16:33,347 --> 01:16:36,427
Speaker 2: which in the past how bench players have made. I'm

1396
01:16:36,427 --> 01:16:39,027
Speaker 2: missing to Mighty Martin, but in guse, you can't change

1397
01:16:39,027 --> 01:16:42,067
Speaker 2: what's going well. Maryland, great point, yet, tomadow Martin has

1398
01:16:42,107 --> 01:16:44,467
Speaker 2: he he's had I think he's had one game, did

1399
01:16:44,507 --> 01:16:47,427
Speaker 2: he I remember he played He played one game off

1400
01:16:47,427 --> 01:16:50,187
Speaker 2: the interchange bench against the Broncos. That was last week. Yeah,

1401
01:16:50,427 --> 01:16:52,147
Speaker 2: only time we've seen them. I think a lot of

1402
01:16:52,147 --> 01:16:53,867
Speaker 2: people expected him to be in the halves this year,

1403
01:16:53,867 --> 01:16:56,107
Speaker 2: didn't they? But Shanelle Harris to beat a Luke metcalf.

1404
01:16:56,547 --> 01:16:59,107
Speaker 2: As you say, Maryland, it's hard to change what has been.

1405
01:16:59,187 --> 01:17:02,747
Speaker 2: For the most part, are winning Formula sixteen. Away from two,

1406
01:17:02,827 --> 01:17:04,387
Speaker 2: let's take a break, come back and head across the

1407
01:17:04,387 --> 01:17:06,547
Speaker 2: Tasman Adam Peacock in his regular settle.

1408
01:17:07,187 --> 01:17:12,627
Speaker 1: Don't get caught off Weekend Sports with Jason Pie and

1409
01:17:12,867 --> 01:17:17,107
Speaker 1: GJ guvnerhoes New Zealand's most trusted home builder News Dogs v.

1410
01:17:17,747 --> 01:17:19,507
Speaker 2: Coming up twelve to two. Let's get you across the

1411
01:17:19,507 --> 01:17:22,987
Speaker 2: tas when a regular catch up with Australian correspondent Adam Peacock. Am,

1412
01:17:23,027 --> 01:17:25,507
Speaker 2: we've been talking about the rugby league over here, the NRL,

1413
01:17:25,507 --> 01:17:29,307
Speaker 2: so let's start the Bulldogs. The Bulldogs finally lost the game,

1414
01:17:29,467 --> 01:17:31,827
Speaker 2: stumped by the Broncos the other night.

1415
01:17:32,307 --> 01:17:35,827
Speaker 10: Oh my goodness, I could not believe this on When

1416
01:17:35,947 --> 01:17:37,947
Speaker 10: was that Thursday night? How are you pinting? By the

1417
01:17:37,987 --> 01:17:41,427
Speaker 10: way all good over this part of the world that

1418
01:17:41,667 --> 01:17:45,147
Speaker 10: the Dogs just came from nowhere basically weird conditions. It

1419
01:17:45,187 --> 01:17:47,867
Speaker 10: was monsoonal, it was slippery. It was a horrible pitched

1420
01:17:47,867 --> 01:17:51,107
Speaker 10: there at San Court Stadium, which they're relaying for. We

1421
01:17:51,227 --> 01:17:52,867
Speaker 10: know about that in a leage football, don't we But

1422
01:17:52,907 --> 01:17:55,747
Speaker 10: they're relaying it for Magic Round next weekend they need to.

1423
01:17:55,827 --> 01:17:58,387
Speaker 10: But no excuse for the Dogs. They lost three players

1424
01:17:58,387 --> 01:18:00,827
Speaker 10: being their discipline was all over the place, and yeah,

1425
01:18:01,267 --> 01:18:04,067
Speaker 10: kind of out of nowhere because defensively they've been the

1426
01:18:04,107 --> 01:18:06,027
Speaker 10: best team so far this season and they just got

1427
01:18:06,027 --> 01:18:07,907
Speaker 10: blind part by Brisbane without rus Wolfe.

1428
01:18:07,987 --> 01:18:11,227
Speaker 2: Weird, it was weird. The Rooster speak the Dragons last

1429
01:18:11,307 --> 01:18:14,707
Speaker 2: night quite comfortably as well. Was this a surprise a

1430
01:18:14,747 --> 01:18:15,147
Speaker 2: little bit?

1431
01:18:15,227 --> 01:18:18,307
Speaker 10: Yeah, I was at that game. Actually, fantastic occasion, like

1432
01:18:18,387 --> 01:18:22,667
Speaker 10: forty five thousand here and really really loud and properly

1433
01:18:23,907 --> 01:18:27,827
Speaker 10: done with the Anak commemorations before the game. It was

1434
01:18:27,907 --> 01:18:31,147
Speaker 10: just a spine tingling atmosphere before the game. But now

1435
01:18:31,307 --> 01:18:35,427
Speaker 10: rust is too quick, too good. Dragons just didn't compete

1436
01:18:35,467 --> 01:18:38,427
Speaker 10: at the same intensity as the Rooster, and I reckon

1437
01:18:38,467 --> 01:18:40,507
Speaker 10: that was about the difference. Isn't a pointy. We do

1438
01:18:40,547 --> 01:18:42,947
Speaker 10: all these things in football or any kind of sport,

1439
01:18:43,027 --> 01:18:44,467
Speaker 10: and there's time of ol was you're trying to look

1440
01:18:44,507 --> 01:18:47,787
Speaker 10: at all the one percenters data and in our physical performance.

1441
01:18:47,787 --> 01:18:49,867
Speaker 10: But the team is in a sport like regular league.

1442
01:18:49,867 --> 01:18:51,547
Speaker 10: If you run hard to tackle harder, I think good

1443
01:18:51,547 --> 01:18:54,627
Speaker 10: things happened. So that was the case, definitely.

1444
01:18:54,747 --> 01:18:56,787
Speaker 2: All right, let's some go to Formula one where your

1445
01:18:56,787 --> 01:19:01,547
Speaker 2: man Oscar PST three leads the drivers championship after five rounds?

1446
01:19:01,747 --> 01:19:04,867
Speaker 2: Is he he'd be a fairly popular chairp wouldn't he?

1447
01:19:04,907 --> 01:19:06,227
Speaker 2: Oscar on your side of the ditch?

1448
01:19:06,987 --> 01:19:07,947
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, he is.

1449
01:19:07,987 --> 01:19:11,027
Speaker 10: Actually, I think everyone's pleasantly surprised that he's come from nowhere,

1450
01:19:11,027 --> 01:19:13,227
Speaker 10: and everyone's kind of forgotten how he got the seat

1451
01:19:13,267 --> 01:19:15,987
Speaker 10: in the first place, which is basically a bit of

1452
01:19:16,227 --> 01:19:19,427
Speaker 10: F one typical F one contract work, that one guy's

1453
01:19:19,427 --> 01:19:20,707
Speaker 10: got the seat and then all of a sudden he

1454
01:19:20,747 --> 01:19:23,347
Speaker 10: doesn't because the deal has been done behind the scenes.

1455
01:19:23,347 --> 01:19:25,507
Speaker 10: And that was when Daniel Riccardo moved aside and Oscar

1456
01:19:25,587 --> 01:19:30,147
Speaker 10: Piastre got a lift with McLaren thanks to Mark Webber's

1457
01:19:30,187 --> 01:19:33,227
Speaker 10: agent and others. Anyway, that's all forgotten about this guy.

1458
01:19:33,627 --> 01:19:35,347
Speaker 10: I was talking to a few people over here who

1459
01:19:35,347 --> 01:19:37,827
Speaker 10: love their Formula one as well. And this guy is

1460
01:19:37,387 --> 01:19:41,187
Speaker 10: in and up to his neck about winning a world title,

1461
01:19:41,227 --> 01:19:43,587
Speaker 10: which is extraordinary. You wouldn't have thought though two years ago.

1462
01:19:43,627 --> 01:19:45,867
Speaker 10: But yeah, the kids on fire and he's in the

1463
01:19:45,907 --> 01:19:47,987
Speaker 10: right car. So that's what you need in Formula one.

1464
01:19:48,267 --> 01:19:52,587
Speaker 2: And to football where Autland the FC could win the

1465
01:19:52,587 --> 01:19:55,547
Speaker 2: A League's Premier's plate actually as early as tonight. If

1466
01:19:55,547 --> 01:19:58,147
Speaker 2: Melbourne City don't beat Adelaide tonight, they'll win it before

1467
01:19:58,547 --> 01:20:00,787
Speaker 2: having to kick a ball against Perth tomorrow. Even when

1468
01:20:00,787 --> 01:20:03,547
Speaker 2: they do kick a ball against Perth tomorrow, they'll probably

1469
01:20:04,107 --> 01:20:07,067
Speaker 2: how would orphand FC winning the pre years plate go

1470
01:20:07,147 --> 01:20:09,987
Speaker 2: down on your side of the taskment in.

1471
01:20:09,987 --> 01:20:12,987
Speaker 10: Football circles, it'll be deserved the people who pay attend

1472
01:20:12,987 --> 01:20:13,547
Speaker 10: to the A League.

1473
01:20:13,587 --> 01:20:15,227
Speaker 5: I've realized that they've they've hit.

1474
01:20:15,147 --> 01:20:17,947
Speaker 10: The ground running. I don't think there's enough being made though,

1475
01:20:18,107 --> 01:20:20,387
Speaker 10: especially in football circles, about how they've done it behind

1476
01:20:20,467 --> 01:20:24,227
Speaker 10: the scenes, and enormous credit has to go to everyone

1477
01:20:24,307 --> 01:20:28,267
Speaker 10: involved with setting up that football club, to getting a

1478
01:20:28,267 --> 01:20:33,147
Speaker 10: community activated involved a football community. From what I understand,

1479
01:20:33,227 --> 01:20:35,787
Speaker 10: it might be you know, a little bits and pieces

1480
01:20:35,787 --> 01:20:38,827
Speaker 10: here and there, but the football community kind of accepting

1481
01:20:38,907 --> 01:20:42,427
Speaker 10: of a new kid in town coming in out of nowhere,

1482
01:20:42,467 --> 01:20:46,347
Speaker 10: and you know, being the everyone else kind of feeding

1483
01:20:46,387 --> 01:20:48,907
Speaker 10: their best kids into a system, but not taking them

1484
01:20:48,907 --> 01:20:50,907
Speaker 10: too soon that you're going to tick people off. It's

1485
01:20:50,907 --> 01:20:53,427
Speaker 10: certainly what happens over here in Australia that there's a

1486
01:20:53,427 --> 01:20:55,827
Speaker 10: bit of a disconnect between the local MPL clubs and.

1487
01:20:55,747 --> 01:20:56,587
Speaker 3: The A League clubs.

1488
01:20:56,627 --> 01:20:59,787
Speaker 10: But over there it looks to have worked so well.

1489
01:20:59,827 --> 01:21:03,227
Speaker 10: And I note that the possibility of a new stand

1490
01:21:03,387 --> 01:21:07,467
Speaker 10: up the stadium happening over there as well. So yeah,

1491
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Speaker 10: all things pointing in the right direction. It couldn't have

1492
01:21:09,547 --> 01:21:10,387
Speaker 10: gone any better, could it?

1493
01:21:10,467 --> 01:21:12,547
Speaker 2: No, it could not have. It could not have. Steve

1494
01:21:12,627 --> 01:21:13,907
Speaker 2: Coricker is a guy I know you had a bit

1495
01:21:13,947 --> 01:21:17,467
Speaker 2: to do with when he was at Sydney FC. Has

1496
01:21:17,507 --> 01:21:21,067
Speaker 2: the way he's guided this team so quickly to the

1497
01:21:21,107 --> 01:21:23,667
Speaker 2: heights that they have achieved. Has that surprised you at all?

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01:21:25,667 --> 01:21:29,107
Speaker 10: Well, not surprised, But there was a watch on Steve

1499
01:21:29,187 --> 01:21:31,027
Speaker 10: Coricker whether or not he could do it outside his

1500
01:21:31,067 --> 01:21:33,947
Speaker 10: comfort zone of Sydney FC. And he took over Graham

1501
01:21:33,987 --> 01:21:36,067
Speaker 10: Arnold and it was a pretty hot side, let's be honest.

1502
01:21:36,107 --> 01:21:38,627
Speaker 10: And he had a bit of restructuring to do as

1503
01:21:38,667 --> 01:21:41,707
Speaker 10: players moved on. I don't think they ever really replaced

1504
01:21:41,707 --> 01:21:43,747
Speaker 10: Alex Wilbinson when he left, how can you, because he

1505
01:21:43,787 --> 01:21:46,547
Speaker 10: was such a great player and a great leader. So

1506
01:21:46,947 --> 01:21:49,067
Speaker 10: it was actually, in my opinion, a good thing to

1507
01:21:49,107 --> 01:21:52,547
Speaker 10: Steve Coriker. It was maybe six months after the fact

1508
01:21:52,547 --> 01:21:55,947
Speaker 10: that he kind of left Sydney f C because he

1509
01:21:56,027 --> 01:21:59,187
Speaker 10: needed that fresh challenge. He's come so well, so yeah,

1510
01:21:59,267 --> 01:22:03,147
Speaker 10: absolutely proven himself and it's great to see. Like I

1511
01:22:03,187 --> 01:22:05,547
Speaker 10: get excited when young Australian players do well, and I

1512
01:22:05,587 --> 01:22:08,067
Speaker 10: get excited when Australian managers do well and open up

1513
01:22:08,107 --> 01:22:11,507
Speaker 10: opportunities for themselves, which is definitely what Steve Kayk has

1514
01:22:11,507 --> 01:22:12,507
Speaker 10: gone over there in Auckland.

1515
01:22:12,627 --> 01:22:15,587
Speaker 2: Absolutely right. Sounds like a bit of grassroots sport going

1516
01:22:15,627 --> 01:22:17,547
Speaker 2: on in the background there as you chat to us.

1517
01:22:18,107 --> 01:22:21,107
Speaker 10: I've got four games of football in four different locations

1518
01:22:21,107 --> 01:22:22,507
Speaker 10: on my radar today.

1519
01:22:22,587 --> 01:22:23,987
Speaker 17: So this is the first of which.

1520
01:22:23,827 --> 01:22:27,067
Speaker 10: My nephew playing under elevens in the local park, which

1521
01:22:27,107 --> 01:22:28,107
Speaker 10: is good to see.

1522
01:22:28,787 --> 01:22:31,427
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a way to spend a weekend. Thanks for

1523
01:22:31,627 --> 01:22:33,547
Speaker 2: taking time for a chat with us, Adam, I always

1524
01:22:33,547 --> 01:22:35,187
Speaker 2: appreciate it. We'll do it again next Saturday.

1525
01:22:35,667 --> 01:22:37,107
Speaker 10: Well good thanks, Pony, have a good one.

1526
01:22:37,147 --> 01:22:38,827
Speaker 2: You have a good one too, mate, Adam Peacock, our

1527
01:22:38,867 --> 01:22:41,987
Speaker 2: Australian correspondent around this time every Saturday afternoon here on

1528
01:22:42,027 --> 01:22:43,587
Speaker 2: news Talk ZEDB seven to two.

1529
01:22:44,387 --> 01:22:49,427
Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic field weekend

1530
01:22:49,467 --> 01:22:52,707
Speaker 1: sport with Jason nine News Talk ZENB.

1531
01:22:53,147 --> 01:22:55,267
Speaker 2: Four to two. Steve says on text Pinty hits up

1532
01:22:55,267 --> 01:22:58,947
Speaker 2: the Trans Tasman Touch Rugby series on Aunwai or Tel

1533
01:22:59,027 --> 01:23:02,427
Speaker 2: Tahi this weekend. Amazing talent on display future NRL and

1534
01:23:02,507 --> 01:23:05,787
Speaker 2: Rugby seven stars. First time back on New Zealand soil.

1535
01:23:05,827 --> 01:23:09,347
Speaker 2: Since people are christ Church, get on down. Second round

1536
01:23:09,467 --> 01:23:12,227
Speaker 2: under way at two o'clock, so very shortly. Final round

1537
01:23:12,307 --> 01:23:15,467
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning at ten. Thanks Steve, appreciate you bringing that

1538
01:23:15,947 --> 01:23:19,187
Speaker 2: to our attention. After the news at two, Back in

1539
01:23:19,307 --> 01:23:21,947
Speaker 2: to the Chiefs camp we go this time into the boardroom.

1540
01:23:21,987 --> 01:23:24,627
Speaker 2: I guess you'd say Simon grafis CEO of the Chiefs,

1541
01:23:24,667 --> 01:23:27,027
Speaker 2: how is he feeling about the team's on field success?

1542
01:23:27,347 --> 01:23:30,267
Speaker 2: And we'll take it to the World Snooker Championships at

1543
01:23:30,267 --> 01:23:31,987
Speaker 2: the Crucible in Sheffield.

1544
01:23:32,267 --> 01:23:35,827
Speaker 1: Truly, it's the only place to discuss the biggest sports

1545
01:23:35,907 --> 01:23:40,187
Speaker 1: issues on and after field. It's all on Weekends Forward

1546
01:23:40,267 --> 01:23:45,107
Speaker 1: with Jason Vaide on your home of Sports new Talks.

1547
01:23:45,347 --> 01:23:48,667
Speaker 2: Ben Hi there, welcome into the show. Well, welcome back

1548
01:23:48,707 --> 01:23:50,507
Speaker 2: to the show. As the case may be. Two seven

1549
01:23:50,587 --> 01:23:52,947
Speaker 2: it is. I'm Jason Pine Bevan Jewey Show producer here

1550
01:23:53,027 --> 01:23:56,147
Speaker 2: until three when Tim Beveridge takes over with the Saturday

1551
01:23:56,267 --> 01:23:58,187
Speaker 2: edition of the Weekend Collective. A bit to get through

1552
01:23:58,227 --> 01:23:59,987
Speaker 2: before we get there. We're going to get your stage

1553
01:24:00,027 --> 01:24:05,027
Speaker 2: site talking NFL Draft and NBA Playoffs with our man

1554
01:24:05,107 --> 01:24:08,227
Speaker 2: lyon Buzzby. We'll also get you to the UK where

1555
01:24:08,267 --> 01:24:13,067
Speaker 2: the World Snooker Championship has been going for a week orse.

1556
01:24:13,147 --> 01:24:17,387
Speaker 2: So the business end is in the week ahead. Michael Day,

1557
01:24:17,627 --> 01:24:21,547
Speaker 2: chief snooker writer for Totally Snooker, is going to join

1558
01:24:21,627 --> 01:24:23,387
Speaker 2: us to have a chat about what's happened in the

1559
01:24:23,387 --> 01:24:26,587
Speaker 2: first week, including a couple of big big upsets and

1560
01:24:26,827 --> 01:24:32,667
Speaker 2: prospects for week two. The final is Monday week and

1561
01:24:33,587 --> 01:24:36,427
Speaker 2: chiefs CEO Simon grafis with us shortly as well. Quite

1562
01:24:36,427 --> 01:24:38,067
Speaker 2: a bit of correspondence to get through it, which I'll

1563
01:24:38,067 --> 01:24:40,987
Speaker 2: do shortly, and we'll update you on some live sport too,

1564
01:24:41,027 --> 01:24:45,027
Speaker 2: including the NBA playoff games which are ongoing. A bunch

1565
01:24:45,027 --> 01:24:48,227
Speaker 2: of Chatham Cup football matches, first round matches have just

1566
01:24:48,427 --> 01:24:50,987
Speaker 2: kicked off around the country all sorts of different places,

1567
01:24:51,187 --> 01:24:54,827
Speaker 2: some of the smaller clubs in the competition getting a

1568
01:24:54,867 --> 01:25:00,787
Speaker 2: cool day against maybe what you describe as slightly higher

1569
01:25:00,827 --> 01:25:04,827
Speaker 2: credentialed opposition. But everybody loves a giant killer when it

1570
01:25:04,867 --> 01:25:07,747
Speaker 2: comes to the Chatham Cup. Try and find one or

1571
01:25:07,747 --> 01:25:10,187
Speaker 2: two of those for you this afternoon as well. You

1572
01:25:10,267 --> 01:25:12,227
Speaker 2: can continue to call the show if you want to.

1573
01:25:12,387 --> 01:25:15,107
Speaker 2: Are eight hundred and eighty ten eighty text messages to

1574
01:25:15,227 --> 01:25:18,307
Speaker 2: nine two ninety two or emails to Jason at Newstalk

1575
01:25:18,347 --> 01:25:21,547
Speaker 2: SEDB dot co dot nz. But as we tick past

1576
01:25:21,627 --> 01:25:25,027
Speaker 2: eight past two, as we always do head around about

1577
01:25:25,027 --> 01:25:27,787
Speaker 2: this time on weekend sport, we like to bring you

1578
01:25:27,867 --> 01:25:29,267
Speaker 2: up tonight with some of the stuff you might have

1579
01:25:29,307 --> 01:25:33,347
Speaker 2: missed in case she mist at. Starting with Super Rugby,

1580
01:25:33,907 --> 01:25:37,027
Speaker 2: the Chiefs accounting for the force last night in Mount Monganui.

1581
01:25:37,587 --> 01:25:40,907
Speaker 4: Har Boy gets the head going he's taken centimeters short

1582
01:25:40,907 --> 01:25:43,987
Speaker 4: of the line. Naawa fancies himself at the half becks

1583
01:25:43,987 --> 01:25:46,987
Speaker 4: of ten other back Jacum Daniel right under.

1584
01:25:46,747 --> 01:25:49,547
Speaker 2: The sixth Yeah, fifty odd fifty six in factive be

1585
01:25:49,627 --> 01:25:51,667
Speaker 2: precise points put on by the Chiefs last night, a

1586
01:25:51,747 --> 01:25:54,067
Speaker 2: five point gap at the top of the table. Of course,

1587
01:25:54,107 --> 01:25:57,907
Speaker 2: the Crusaders played the Highlanders tonight. I've heard already fifteen

1588
01:25:57,987 --> 01:26:02,107
Speaker 2: thousand sold for that game. Big crowd and coming and

1589
01:26:02,227 --> 01:26:05,147
Speaker 2: danedin tonight for the Crusaders against the Highlanders last night

1590
01:26:05,187 --> 01:26:07,947
Speaker 2: in Brisbane. The loose going down to the Reds.

1591
01:26:08,507 --> 01:26:12,067
Speaker 8: The rolling mall, it's got two within six meters of

1592
01:26:12,147 --> 01:26:13,107
Speaker 8: the Blues line.

1593
01:26:13,227 --> 01:26:14,187
Speaker 2: This will be the game.

1594
01:26:14,267 --> 01:26:15,147
Speaker 4: They've got to stop it.

1595
01:26:15,547 --> 01:26:16,667
Speaker 6: The rolling mall.

1596
01:26:16,947 --> 01:26:18,307
Speaker 4: Oh, it's charging.

1597
01:26:17,947 --> 01:26:20,027
Speaker 2: Towards the Blues line, up.

1598
01:26:19,907 --> 01:26:20,667
Speaker 3: To the line.

1599
01:26:20,787 --> 01:26:22,547
Speaker 4: Try the Reds.

1600
01:26:23,147 --> 01:26:26,307
Speaker 2: We'll secure the points. They certainly did to the NRL.

1601
01:26:26,347 --> 01:26:26,547
Speaker 17: We know.

1602
01:26:26,587 --> 01:26:28,667
Speaker 2: The Warriors got their fifth win of the season last

1603
01:26:28,747 --> 01:26:31,347
Speaker 2: night betting the Knights in christ Church. Shortly after that,

1604
01:26:31,427 --> 01:26:34,427
Speaker 2: the Storm up to second with victory over the Rabbit Oats.

1605
01:26:34,347 --> 01:26:35,347
Speaker 4: Are wonderful hands.

1606
01:26:35,427 --> 01:26:38,987
Speaker 7: Hughes Pappa housing out to Cutta cut All. One's up

1607
01:26:38,987 --> 01:26:42,667
Speaker 7: and links up with Benie media wife. They're lighting up

1608
01:26:42,827 --> 01:26:45,187
Speaker 7: on It's a love more past, but this time it's

1609
01:26:45,227 --> 01:26:46,067
Speaker 7: clear head.

1610
01:26:46,107 --> 01:26:50,627
Speaker 2: We're sellers over and staying in Australia Melbourne victory, ceiling

1611
01:26:50,667 --> 01:26:54,987
Speaker 2: of finals birth in Football's Men's A League two one

1612
01:26:55,027 --> 01:26:59,347
Speaker 2: winners over MacArthur and Sydney. Sanni's threadeds pass fights, Ma

1613
01:26:59,467 --> 01:27:00,547
Speaker 2: Sha Shaw, the Little.

1614
01:27:00,387 --> 01:27:04,787
Speaker 18: Rafona, the queueing up here and Casey Voss drilled it

1615
01:27:04,867 --> 01:27:07,907
Speaker 18: into the bottom corner just his second of a goal

1616
01:27:07,987 --> 01:27:11,907
Speaker 18: for Albert victory the end of another flowing sweeping move

1617
01:27:11,987 --> 01:27:14,987
Speaker 18: find the visitors add victory late by two.

1618
01:27:16,067 --> 01:27:19,587
Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport, Weekend

1619
01:27:19,707 --> 01:27:23,547
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1620
01:27:23,587 --> 01:27:26,067
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder, News TALKSB.

1621
01:27:26,027 --> 01:27:29,627
Speaker 2: News Talks EV and Weekend Sport. It is ten past two.

1622
01:27:29,667 --> 01:27:30,867
Speaker 2: Just wanted to get to a few of the text

1623
01:27:30,907 --> 01:27:34,187
Speaker 2: messages that have come through. A lot of variety on

1624
01:27:34,307 --> 01:27:36,787
Speaker 2: text this afternoon, which I always love from Gunner Pineer

1625
01:27:36,827 --> 01:27:40,147
Speaker 2: groupie comments about Josh Jacob just like to add he

1626
01:27:40,187 --> 01:27:43,987
Speaker 2: has a rare quality time to make the right decisions

1627
01:27:44,387 --> 01:27:48,067
Speaker 2: which match winning number tens must have. With more time

1628
01:27:48,147 --> 01:27:50,947
Speaker 2: in the saddle his game, his confidence will definitely improve.

1629
01:27:51,347 --> 01:27:53,507
Speaker 2: As far as the final for my Chiefs, They'll be

1630
01:27:53,587 --> 01:27:56,947
Speaker 2: there and hoping to go one better, not really looking

1631
01:27:57,027 --> 01:28:00,467
Speaker 2: for another ground hog Day experience. I bet you're not gunna.

1632
01:28:00,907 --> 01:28:04,747
Speaker 2: I bet you're not looking for another groundhog Day. There

1633
01:28:04,747 --> 01:28:08,267
Speaker 2: was another text that came through about Josh Jacob as well,

1634
01:28:08,867 --> 01:28:11,347
Speaker 2: from Nicholas Young Chiefs first five sounded like a young

1635
01:28:11,427 --> 01:28:15,667
Speaker 2: Dan Carter talking about Mertz respectful. I like his high

1636
01:28:15,747 --> 01:28:18,947
Speaker 2: kicking action looks a bit like Alan Huson A good player.

1637
01:28:18,947 --> 01:28:23,107
Speaker 2: Thanks Nicholas. Glenn has told me to not forget about

1638
01:28:23,147 --> 01:28:27,107
Speaker 2: the FA Cup semifinals. Glenn, I certainly haven't forgotten about

1639
01:28:27,107 --> 01:28:30,907
Speaker 2: the FA Cup semi finals, one tomorrow morning and one

1640
01:28:30,987 --> 01:28:33,867
Speaker 2: on Monday morning. The one tomorrow morning is your team,

1641
01:28:33,907 --> 01:28:37,707
Speaker 2: isn't it, Glenn? Crystal Palace. Crystal Palace in the semifinals

1642
01:28:37,707 --> 01:28:40,987
Speaker 2: of the FA Cup up against aston Villa. This one

1643
01:28:41,027 --> 01:28:43,867
Speaker 2: is at Wembley, as is the second of the semifinals,

1644
01:28:44,267 --> 01:28:49,187
Speaker 2: Nottingham Forrest Chris Wood up against Manchester City. That's on

1645
01:28:49,347 --> 01:28:52,507
Speaker 2: Monday morning, three point thirty. The Palace Aston Villa game

1646
01:28:52,547 --> 01:28:55,267
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning at four fifteen. So best of luck to

1647
01:28:55,307 --> 01:28:58,987
Speaker 2: the fans of those four sights. I patched can tab here.

1648
01:29:00,267 --> 01:29:03,507
Speaker 2: Chiefs have the best pack, excellent body positioning on the

1649
01:29:03,547 --> 01:29:07,347
Speaker 2: tight drive. Injuries star are the key Vadas Chiefs Final

1650
01:29:07,347 --> 01:29:11,107
Speaker 2: in the Garden City Crusader's Golden point win. Regarding some

1651
01:29:11,147 --> 01:29:15,067
Speaker 2: of our players, the locks Holland and Lord send them

1652
01:29:15,107 --> 01:29:18,507
Speaker 2: on a coast to coast with Sir Richie harden them up.

1653
01:29:18,667 --> 01:29:21,347
Speaker 2: Could be the business pairing in the future. Scott Barrett

1654
01:29:21,387 --> 01:29:24,867
Speaker 2: to six Setiti number eight Rdisavs seven on the bench.

1655
01:29:24,867 --> 01:29:29,907
Speaker 2: I'd have Tupulvai and not Todd Blackada, Ethan Blackadder or Jacobson.

1656
01:29:30,387 --> 01:29:34,027
Speaker 2: Just some random thoughts seys Nicholas, thank you, Nicholas, Hi Jason,

1657
01:29:34,027 --> 01:29:37,547
Speaker 2: great show. Oscar pr Strie achieved a hat trick several

1658
01:29:37,587 --> 01:29:42,027
Speaker 2: weeks ago in Bahrain, getting pole, winning the race and

1659
01:29:42,107 --> 01:29:45,387
Speaker 2: getting the fastest lap during the race. The last Australian

1660
01:29:45,387 --> 01:29:47,747
Speaker 2: to do that was Alan Jones in nineteen eighty. He

1661
01:29:47,827 --> 01:29:51,347
Speaker 2: went on to win the championship and from Dino Piney

1662
01:29:51,387 --> 01:29:54,467
Speaker 2: the coach has been a master stroke for Auckland FC.

1663
01:29:55,347 --> 01:29:58,507
Speaker 2: They've always had massive football support, a lot out West

1664
01:29:58,507 --> 01:30:00,867
Speaker 2: with around six to eight clubs and all over Auckland,

1665
01:30:01,187 --> 01:30:03,827
Speaker 2: so in a way it's no surprise for me. After

1666
01:30:03,867 --> 01:30:06,307
Speaker 2: the Kings in ninety nine, great to see bad luck

1667
01:30:06,387 --> 01:30:09,787
Speaker 2: about the Phoenix. I told you we'd do well, says Dino.

1668
01:30:10,067 --> 01:30:12,507
Speaker 2: Good on your Dino, you did. I remember you're telling

1669
01:30:12,547 --> 01:30:15,987
Speaker 2: me all those months ago that this team would do well,

1670
01:30:16,147 --> 01:30:18,947
Speaker 2: and so it proved to be. That game is tomorrow, incidentally,

1671
01:30:18,987 --> 01:30:21,667
Speaker 2: the Auckland f C Perth Glory game. We'll have a

1672
01:30:21,667 --> 01:30:24,547
Speaker 2: good focus on that game on the show tomorrow, just

1673
01:30:24,627 --> 01:30:28,667
Speaker 2: reminding you of the equation here. If Melbourne City don't

1674
01:30:28,707 --> 01:30:32,667
Speaker 2: win tonight, they play Adelaide at nine point thirty. If

1675
01:30:32,707 --> 01:30:35,907
Speaker 2: they don't win that game tonight Melbourne City, then Auckland

1676
01:30:35,987 --> 01:30:39,067
Speaker 2: FC will win the Premier's Plate with two games to spare.

1677
01:30:39,907 --> 01:30:42,667
Speaker 2: If Melbourne City do win tonight and it's at home

1678
01:30:42,707 --> 01:30:46,107
Speaker 2: for them, and Adelaide have been a bit average recently,

1679
01:30:46,147 --> 01:30:48,547
Speaker 2: so let's just say that Melbourne City do win that tonight,

1680
01:30:48,587 --> 01:30:52,587
Speaker 2: then Auckland FC tomorrow only need to draw against Perth

1681
01:30:52,627 --> 01:30:55,627
Speaker 2: Glory and they will lift the Premier's Plate, that is

1682
01:30:55,707 --> 01:31:00,147
Speaker 2: the regular season silverware for the A League. What an

1683
01:31:00,147 --> 01:31:03,907
Speaker 2: occasion it promises to be at go Media Stadium tomorrow

1684
01:31:04,347 --> 01:31:07,587
Speaker 2: five o'clock kickoff. Will as I say, focus on that

1685
01:31:08,827 --> 01:31:11,387
Speaker 2: game tomorrow, take some course and talk to a couple

1686
01:31:11,387 --> 01:31:13,507
Speaker 2: of the Auckland FC players as they look to list

1687
01:31:13,547 --> 01:31:18,787
Speaker 2: some self aware at the first time of asking. Two

1688
01:31:18,867 --> 01:31:21,907
Speaker 2: fourteen here on news Talk said, b let's continue our

1689
01:31:21,987 --> 01:31:26,387
Speaker 2: journey around the New Zealand based Super Rugby franchises and

1690
01:31:26,467 --> 01:31:28,827
Speaker 2: their CEOs. We had the chance to chat to Roger

1691
01:31:28,867 --> 01:31:31,147
Speaker 2: Clark out of the Highlanders, have and Leave from the Hurricanes,

1692
01:31:31,147 --> 01:31:34,427
Speaker 2: and Colin Mansbridge from the Crusaders last weekend. We've got

1693
01:31:34,427 --> 01:31:37,027
Speaker 2: Andrew Whore on the show tomorrow from the Blues. But

1694
01:31:37,147 --> 01:31:40,987
Speaker 2: today chiefs CEO Simon Graffis is joining us. Simon, you

1695
01:31:41,027 --> 01:31:45,187
Speaker 2: be a phirly happy CEO, I would imagine today after

1696
01:31:45,267 --> 01:31:47,667
Speaker 2: watching your side put fifty on the force last night

1697
01:31:47,707 --> 01:31:50,227
Speaker 2: and open up a five point gap at the top.

1698
01:31:51,067 --> 01:31:54,827
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, very happy. I mean yeah, a five point

1699
01:31:54,827 --> 01:31:57,347
Speaker 19: gap halfway through the round. So we'll see, we'll see

1700
01:31:57,347 --> 01:32:00,147
Speaker 19: what happens over the next the course of the next day.

1701
01:32:00,827 --> 01:32:02,947
Speaker 2: Playing at bay Oval for the first time in over

1702
01:32:03,027 --> 01:32:04,547
Speaker 2: a decade. How did that come about?

1703
01:32:07,227 --> 01:32:11,107
Speaker 19: Well, I mean we we tried to look for some

1704
01:32:11,187 --> 01:32:14,307
Speaker 19: options with the holiday weekend Hamilton. Hamilton's a bit tough

1705
01:32:14,387 --> 01:32:18,427
Speaker 19: and and so you know, I thought some of the

1706
01:32:18,467 --> 01:32:22,267
Speaker 19: destinations around the region that people go to might be

1707
01:32:22,267 --> 01:32:26,107
Speaker 19: a good option. So yeah, theay Oval and we became

1708
01:32:26,147 --> 01:32:29,307
Speaker 19: aware of the opportunity of bay Oval and yeah and.

1709
01:32:29,307 --> 01:32:30,547
Speaker 5: The team team there.

1710
01:32:31,467 --> 01:32:33,507
Speaker 19: We're really easy to work with them and made things happen,

1711
01:32:33,587 --> 01:32:37,427
Speaker 19: so fantastic to take a game there. Obviously we can't

1712
01:32:37,467 --> 01:32:40,827
Speaker 19: control the time, so lights, having good lights there was

1713
01:32:40,867 --> 01:32:44,467
Speaker 19: a factor, so there's pretty limited options to take games away.

1714
01:32:45,667 --> 01:32:49,027
Speaker 19: But yeah, Bayoval was was brilliant with that really well.

1715
01:32:49,107 --> 01:32:51,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I look good on the TV. Good crowd

1716
01:32:51,387 --> 01:32:52,747
Speaker 2: by the looks of things as well. I think it

1717
01:32:52,787 --> 01:32:55,507
Speaker 2: was a salad. Are you likely to repeat it? Do

1718
01:32:55,587 --> 01:32:58,347
Speaker 2: you think you'll you'll you'll look to take take further

1719
01:32:58,387 --> 01:32:58,907
Speaker 2: games there?

1720
01:33:00,667 --> 01:33:04,347
Speaker 19: Look, I think yeah, it was a huge, huge success.

1721
01:33:04,427 --> 01:33:08,267
Speaker 19: I think absolutely keen to look at taking other games there,

1722
01:33:10,067 --> 01:33:12,987
Speaker 19: you know, you know, the timing is important, I think

1723
01:33:13,867 --> 01:33:15,987
Speaker 19: obviously with I mean cricket was only played on there

1724
01:33:15,987 --> 01:33:19,987
Speaker 19: four weeks ago, so there's probably a limited opportunity when

1725
01:33:20,027 --> 01:33:23,587
Speaker 19: we can have games there. But I think that the

1726
01:33:23,627 --> 01:33:26,827
Speaker 19: community got the behind us, you know, the council and

1727
01:33:26,947 --> 01:33:29,707
Speaker 19: TechEd and and Prairie one will help get the game there,

1728
01:33:29,707 --> 01:33:32,867
Speaker 19: and the crew from bay Oval bent over backwards to

1729
01:33:32,867 --> 01:33:35,587
Speaker 19: make it happen, which which is fantastic. So it was

1730
01:33:35,827 --> 01:33:38,307
Speaker 19: for a new venue actually worked really well.

1731
01:33:38,387 --> 01:33:40,667
Speaker 2: Good to hear. Good to hear, Chiefs were the best

1732
01:33:40,667 --> 01:33:42,947
Speaker 2: team in twenty twenty three, beaten in the final, made

1733
01:33:42,947 --> 01:33:45,667
Speaker 2: the final last year, beaten by the Blues. Surely this

1734
01:33:45,827 --> 01:33:46,987
Speaker 2: is your year, Simon.

1735
01:33:48,267 --> 01:33:50,387
Speaker 19: Oh yeah, that's a big call. I mean, I think

1736
01:33:50,427 --> 01:33:55,107
Speaker 19: we've all seen Yeah, I mean we've been pretty consistent

1737
01:33:55,187 --> 01:33:58,147
Speaker 19: and haven't quite got the job done, which is obviously

1738
01:33:58,987 --> 01:34:02,427
Speaker 19: disappointing in those occasions. But yeah, you have to be

1739
01:34:02,467 --> 01:34:04,787
Speaker 19: the best team on the night in the final if

1740
01:34:04,827 --> 01:34:07,307
Speaker 19: you can get there. And we've still got a pretty

1741
01:34:07,347 --> 01:34:11,467
Speaker 19: tough run into I think we've got three local derbies

1742
01:34:11,507 --> 01:34:13,427
Speaker 19: to go all the way, so we've all seen how

1743
01:34:13,427 --> 01:34:15,387
Speaker 19: hard it is to win on the road. So yeah,

1744
01:34:15,387 --> 01:34:18,627
Speaker 19: there's a little bit of rugbyder to get to get

1745
01:34:18,627 --> 01:34:21,107
Speaker 19: into the finals. And you know, to make a finals

1746
01:34:21,147 --> 01:34:22,907
Speaker 19: a big achievement too. So we're not we're not.

1747
01:34:23,027 --> 01:34:25,227
Speaker 5: We're not counting on that yet.

1748
01:34:24,787 --> 01:34:28,427
Speaker 2: It's what a good answer, good answer. How much is

1749
01:34:28,427 --> 01:34:33,187
Speaker 2: is your off field success commercially linked to the sides

1750
01:34:33,267 --> 01:34:34,467
Speaker 2: on field performances?

1751
01:34:36,147 --> 01:34:40,707
Speaker 19: Are They're really they're really linked? I think, I mean

1752
01:34:40,707 --> 01:34:44,907
Speaker 19: everyone likes to back winners, don't they, So if you're winning,

1753
01:34:46,507 --> 01:34:50,427
Speaker 19: you get more fans along, so so huge influence and

1754
01:34:50,467 --> 01:34:53,027
Speaker 19: none of us are in it to come second. So yeah,

1755
01:34:53,067 --> 01:34:57,187
Speaker 19: there's all eleven teams that on the day are good

1756
01:34:57,267 --> 01:34:58,707
Speaker 19: enough to beat each other, and they run at the

1757
01:34:58,747 --> 01:35:00,267
Speaker 19: start of the season thinks you're going to win it,

1758
01:35:00,307 --> 01:35:02,387
Speaker 19: which is which is what what's sports to about, isn't it.

1759
01:35:02,507 --> 01:35:05,307
Speaker 2: Indeed you must also it must be a lot easier

1760
01:35:05,347 --> 01:35:09,187
Speaker 2: to have discussions with your commercial partners too when things

1761
01:35:09,507 --> 01:35:11,387
Speaker 2: are going well. But I guess you also have to

1762
01:35:11,427 --> 01:35:15,667
Speaker 2: installate yourself against the roller coaster that is elite sport

1763
01:35:15,707 --> 01:35:17,467
Speaker 2: when you're talking to your partners, because you can't win

1764
01:35:17,507 --> 01:35:19,667
Speaker 2: every week, can you?

1765
01:35:19,707 --> 01:35:19,907
Speaker 5: No?

1766
01:35:20,027 --> 01:35:23,587
Speaker 19: No, And it's it's tough. I mean, I think they've

1767
01:35:23,587 --> 01:35:29,707
Speaker 19: been successful. Helps, but commercially, you know, there's there's big

1768
01:35:29,747 --> 01:35:31,467
Speaker 19: parts of the economy that are doing that.

1769
01:35:31,507 --> 01:35:32,987
Speaker 5: They are doing it tough at the moment too, So

1770
01:35:33,027 --> 01:35:35,587
Speaker 5: there's there's a whole he perfect as that play here too.

1771
01:35:35,747 --> 01:35:38,587
Speaker 19: Yeah, but the team is certainly doing their bit on

1772
01:35:38,627 --> 01:35:41,587
Speaker 19: the on the park and that helps us get fans

1773
01:35:41,627 --> 01:35:44,067
Speaker 19: in and it helps it helps talk to partners as well.

1774
01:35:44,507 --> 01:35:47,627
Speaker 2: One of your big players obviously is Damien McKenzie who

1775
01:35:47,947 --> 01:35:52,067
Speaker 2: has been retained by yourselves and New Zealand Rugby. How

1776
01:35:52,107 --> 01:35:55,587
Speaker 2: significant role do the Chiefs play in those negotiations.

1777
01:35:57,747 --> 01:36:00,747
Speaker 5: I mean we play our role.

1778
01:36:01,147 --> 01:36:05,907
Speaker 19: Obviously, the the user Rugby all Black component is the

1779
01:36:05,907 --> 01:36:08,787
Speaker 19: big part of as part of his deal. But no,

1780
01:36:08,907 --> 01:36:10,827
Speaker 19: we were certainly putting as much pressure on as we

1781
01:36:10,867 --> 01:36:13,627
Speaker 19: could to make sure we retained someone like Damien's pretty

1782
01:36:13,667 --> 01:36:18,067
Speaker 19: pretty special for a club and he's a pretty special talent.

1783
01:36:18,907 --> 01:36:20,467
Speaker 2: When will you announce your new coach?

1784
01:36:22,667 --> 01:36:25,227
Speaker 19: We'll go through a process post season, and I mean

1785
01:36:25,267 --> 01:36:27,987
Speaker 19: I think you know, at this stage, everyone's focused on

1786
01:36:28,867 --> 01:36:31,547
Speaker 19: doing the best this year and that'll that will probably

1787
01:36:31,587 --> 01:36:35,387
Speaker 19: help determine determine the outcome if we get anything right.

1788
01:36:35,787 --> 01:36:37,507
Speaker 2: Is it likely you'll promote internally?

1789
01:36:39,467 --> 01:36:42,187
Speaker 19: Look, I think we've got some really good internal candidates,

1790
01:36:42,227 --> 01:36:44,827
Speaker 19: but it's in you know, public. We have said that

1791
01:36:44,867 --> 01:36:48,267
Speaker 19: before too, but I think for everyone's sake, we need

1792
01:36:48,307 --> 01:36:52,267
Speaker 19: to just focus on the season. And yeah, and we'll

1793
01:36:52,347 --> 01:36:53,987
Speaker 19: let that run its course post season.

1794
01:36:54,307 --> 01:36:57,307
Speaker 2: You must, yeah, you must expect though that that there'll

1795
01:36:57,307 --> 01:37:01,107
Speaker 2: be high interest in the role externally as well. I mean,

1796
01:37:01,147 --> 01:37:04,467
Speaker 2: coaching the Chiefs, it's a terrific job with a great

1797
01:37:04,507 --> 01:37:08,467
Speaker 2: bunch of players. You must be expecting high interest, are you.

1798
01:37:10,507 --> 01:37:13,747
Speaker 5: Yeah, you would do absolutely for us.

1799
01:37:14,227 --> 01:37:18,867
Speaker 19: Fit and and and cultural fit is big for us.

1800
01:37:18,907 --> 01:37:23,547
Speaker 19: So the list of candidates may not be quite as

1801
01:37:23,587 --> 01:37:26,787
Speaker 19: big as people might think. You know, I think you know,

1802
01:37:26,987 --> 01:37:31,547
Speaker 19: Clayton has done a fantastic job and huge, huge shoes

1803
01:37:31,587 --> 01:37:35,667
Speaker 19: to fill. But you know, we've seen how good he

1804
01:37:35,787 --> 01:37:37,507
Speaker 19: is off the field as well and what he does.

1805
01:37:37,587 --> 01:37:42,147
Speaker 19: You know, he's pretty special individual. So he's probably said

1806
01:37:42,147 --> 01:37:44,307
Speaker 19: a bit of a benchmark of of of what we

1807
01:37:44,667 --> 01:37:47,187
Speaker 19: what we need in the club and and we've seen

1808
01:37:47,227 --> 01:37:48,467
Speaker 19: the success that that's driven.

1809
01:37:49,147 --> 01:37:52,027
Speaker 2: He's a pretty uh, pretty understided character too, isn't he

1810
01:37:52,067 --> 01:37:53,707
Speaker 2: Did he just knock on your door and say, Simon,

1811
01:37:53,787 --> 01:37:54,667
Speaker 2: I'm off to Ireland.

1812
01:37:57,147 --> 01:38:00,587
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean, you know he's you know, he's Clayton's

1813
01:38:00,587 --> 01:38:03,027
Speaker 19: pretty specially he is. He is quite quiet, but he's

1814
01:38:04,187 --> 01:38:06,267
Speaker 19: you know, everything he does he does with with big

1815
01:38:06,467 --> 01:38:07,827
Speaker 19: the end, with respect.

1816
01:38:07,467 --> 01:38:12,587
Speaker 5: And he's you know, he's very very good individual ever

1817
01:38:12,667 --> 01:38:13,307
Speaker 5: in the club.

1818
01:38:13,747 --> 01:38:16,107
Speaker 2: As far as you're concerned. You know, when when somebody

1819
01:38:16,147 --> 01:38:19,067
Speaker 2: who has been so influential on your team like Clayton

1820
01:38:19,467 --> 01:38:21,787
Speaker 2: comes to you and says, look, I've made this career decision.

1821
01:38:21,827 --> 01:38:24,987
Speaker 2: I've been given this opportunity with Munster, I can't really

1822
01:38:25,027 --> 01:38:26,747
Speaker 2: turn it down. It's it's going to be the right

1823
01:38:26,787 --> 01:38:29,347
Speaker 2: move for me. Did any part of you want to

1824
01:38:29,347 --> 01:38:32,987
Speaker 2: try and convince him to stay from me?

1825
01:38:33,067 --> 01:38:34,547
Speaker 5: Every part to be honest, But.

1826
01:38:37,707 --> 01:38:41,467
Speaker 19: The reality is, you know, like he he he was

1827
01:38:41,547 --> 01:38:44,787
Speaker 19: upfront and open the whole way through the process. And

1828
01:38:46,107 --> 01:38:48,987
Speaker 19: in many ways we're development. You know, we try to develop,

1829
01:38:49,067 --> 01:38:51,347
Speaker 19: you know, we try to develop all our people, whether

1830
01:38:51,387 --> 01:38:52,947
Speaker 19: that's players or coaches.

1831
01:38:52,667 --> 01:38:53,627
Speaker 5: Or Edmund staff.

1832
01:38:54,227 --> 01:38:57,427
Speaker 19: And you know, this is part of his journey and

1833
01:38:57,507 --> 01:39:00,747
Speaker 19: his coaching career. So at some point we knew that

1834
01:39:00,787 --> 01:39:04,747
Speaker 19: he was going to go, and but I would have

1835
01:39:04,787 --> 01:39:07,107
Speaker 19: loved to loock him and on term, but I'm not

1836
01:39:07,107 --> 01:39:08,387
Speaker 19: sure that would have been the right thing for his

1837
01:39:08,507 --> 01:39:09,467
Speaker 19: coaching journey.

1838
01:39:09,667 --> 01:39:11,707
Speaker 2: Dead right, dead right. So what takes up most of

1839
01:39:11,747 --> 01:39:14,827
Speaker 2: your time on a week to week basis, Simon.

1840
01:39:15,907 --> 01:39:18,827
Speaker 19: Oh, a number of a number of things, you know,

1841
01:39:18,947 --> 01:39:23,307
Speaker 19: Like I mean, I probably gave a obviously all areas

1842
01:39:23,307 --> 01:39:25,827
Speaker 19: of the organization, so you know, from the from the

1843
01:39:25,907 --> 01:39:29,627
Speaker 19: rugby to the commercial to whether it's sponsors, whether it's

1844
01:39:30,027 --> 01:39:32,867
Speaker 19: you know, helping with helping the team set up a

1845
01:39:34,307 --> 01:39:38,387
Speaker 19: game at a new venue like the day over, dealing

1846
01:39:38,427 --> 01:39:43,147
Speaker 19: with dealing with shareholders and key partners and stakeholders and

1847
01:39:43,227 --> 01:39:47,467
Speaker 19: rugby and out of rugby, and yeah, it's a reasonably

1848
01:39:48,347 --> 01:39:52,187
Speaker 19: interesting and pretty fruitful sort of industry to be involved in.

1849
01:39:52,507 --> 01:39:54,747
Speaker 2: Can you still watch a game as a fan or

1850
01:39:54,787 --> 01:39:56,147
Speaker 2: is that just not possible anymore?

1851
01:39:57,787 --> 01:39:58,787
Speaker 12: Uh?

1852
01:39:59,467 --> 01:40:02,147
Speaker 19: Absolutely watching as a fan, but I probably watched games

1853
01:40:02,187 --> 01:40:03,867
Speaker 19: a bit different now too. You know, you'll watch a

1854
01:40:03,907 --> 01:40:07,147
Speaker 19: game and you have a look at what's the field peace,

1855
01:40:07,307 --> 01:40:09,507
Speaker 19: what are the fans engaging, and what are the.

1856
01:40:11,307 --> 01:40:12,787
Speaker 5: What's the hospitality offerings?

1857
01:40:12,827 --> 01:40:15,627
Speaker 19: But you know, I'm on the courmander for the weekend,

1858
01:40:15,667 --> 01:40:19,107
Speaker 19: so I'll pop down to the follow rugby club and

1859
01:40:19,147 --> 01:40:22,187
Speaker 19: watch some club footy this afternoon as well. So I

1860
01:40:22,267 --> 01:40:24,467
Speaker 19: still love the game, but I'll probably watched it a

1861
01:40:24,467 --> 01:40:27,307
Speaker 19: little bit differently now to word Winster, good.

1862
01:40:27,107 --> 01:40:29,307
Speaker 2: To see your man Wallace. So Titi back out there

1863
01:40:29,347 --> 01:40:29,747
Speaker 2: last night?

1864
01:40:31,267 --> 01:40:31,507
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1865
01:40:31,707 --> 01:40:34,747
Speaker 19: Yeah, and the he didn't really look like he'd been

1866
01:40:34,787 --> 01:40:36,587
Speaker 19: off the pack for too long too, did. He sort

1867
01:40:36,587 --> 01:40:39,547
Speaker 19: of just slotted straight back And so I think that's

1868
01:40:39,587 --> 01:40:42,707
Speaker 19: going to cause Clayton and the coach up group, if

1869
01:40:42,707 --> 01:40:44,147
Speaker 19: you selection, problems.

1870
01:40:44,147 --> 01:40:45,587
Speaker 5: But it's as good as you'd have.

1871
01:40:45,867 --> 01:40:47,787
Speaker 2: That's what you're after, Simon. Great to get the chance

1872
01:40:47,827 --> 01:40:51,067
Speaker 2: to tattoo today. Enjoy your club rugby viewing this afternoon.

1873
01:40:51,067 --> 01:40:53,187
Speaker 2: I bet that must be quite nice to get down

1874
01:40:53,187 --> 01:40:55,587
Speaker 2: to the grassroots and watch some club rugby. All the

1875
01:40:55,627 --> 01:40:58,427
Speaker 2: best for the rest of the Chiefs season, and let's

1876
01:40:58,467 --> 01:41:00,227
Speaker 2: hope it's the third time lucky for your franchise.

1877
01:41:01,507 --> 01:41:04,587
Speaker 5: Yeah, fingers crossed. Yeah, a little bit of work to

1878
01:41:04,587 --> 01:41:05,307
Speaker 5: do before we get there.

1879
01:41:05,507 --> 01:41:07,787
Speaker 2: No, thanks for the time, Thank you for your time, Simon.

1880
01:41:07,827 --> 01:41:11,707
Speaker 2: Simon graffis there, he's the CEO of the Chiefs. Tomorrow

1881
01:41:11,827 --> 01:41:14,947
Speaker 2: Andrew Hort, the CEO of the Blues. Are interesting to

1882
01:41:15,307 --> 01:41:17,867
Speaker 2: talk to him tomorrow with things not going quite so

1883
01:41:17,987 --> 01:41:21,907
Speaker 2: well this season. Obviously a drought breaking title win for

1884
01:41:21,947 --> 01:41:24,507
Speaker 2: the Blues last season, but here they are this season

1885
01:41:24,547 --> 01:41:26,347
Speaker 2: with a bit of work to do even to make

1886
01:41:26,347 --> 01:41:29,827
Speaker 2: the six. So Andrew Hoare completes our our round of

1887
01:41:29,907 --> 01:41:32,627
Speaker 2: the New Zealand based super rugby CEOs when he joins

1888
01:41:32,707 --> 01:41:35,387
Speaker 2: us on the show tomorrow to twenty four, we'll take

1889
01:41:35,387 --> 01:41:37,547
Speaker 2: a break, come back and talk from American sport, the

1890
01:41:37,667 --> 01:41:41,907
Speaker 2: NFL Draft and the NBA playoffs with our Americans. American

1891
01:41:41,947 --> 01:41:45,027
Speaker 2: sports expert Leon Busby. He's with us right after this.

1892
01:41:46,467 --> 01:41:49,867
Speaker 1: The big issues on and after fields call, Oh eight

1893
01:41:49,987 --> 01:41:52,947
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason.

1894
01:41:52,707 --> 01:41:53,747
Speaker 2: Fine and GJ.

1895
01:41:53,907 --> 01:41:58,427
Speaker 1: Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home Miilder News Talks ABBY.

1896
01:41:58,507 --> 01:42:01,227
Speaker 2: News Talks AB and Weekend Sport to twenty seven. Let's

1897
01:42:01,267 --> 01:42:05,347
Speaker 2: get your state side with our US sports expert Leon Busby,

1898
01:42:05,787 --> 01:42:08,187
Speaker 2: who joins us now. Leon, thanks for your time, Good afternoon,

1899
01:42:09,947 --> 01:42:10,587
Speaker 2: he finance.

1900
01:42:10,667 --> 01:42:12,427
Speaker 3: Great to be back. As always, We've got a lot

1901
01:42:12,467 --> 01:42:14,427
Speaker 3: to cover today to let's starve straight in today.

1902
01:42:14,867 --> 01:42:17,227
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not, mate, Let's go with the NFL Draft.

1903
01:42:17,227 --> 01:42:18,987
Speaker 2: I want to get to the NBA playoffs, but let's

1904
01:42:18,987 --> 01:42:22,987
Speaker 2: start with the NFL Draft, which is basically ongoing as

1905
01:42:23,027 --> 01:42:25,147
Speaker 2: we speak. Maybe to start with Liam, can you just

1906
01:42:25,227 --> 01:42:29,467
Speaker 2: explain to us how the NFL draft actually works.

1907
01:42:30,707 --> 01:42:33,027
Speaker 3: Yes, a bit of background for your listening audience. So

1908
01:42:33,147 --> 01:42:36,187
Speaker 3: first hold of nineteen thirty six. It's in its ninetieth year.

1909
01:42:36,667 --> 01:42:41,307
Speaker 3: The NFL's draft is the most highly anticipated player recruitment

1910
01:42:41,587 --> 01:42:45,187
Speaker 3: event anywhere in team sports. Basically how it works as

1911
01:42:45,227 --> 01:42:47,947
Speaker 3: each team is given a position in the drafting order

1912
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Speaker 3: in reverse order relative to its record the previous season,

1913
01:42:51,787 --> 01:42:54,107
Speaker 3: which means that the team with the worst regular season

1914
01:42:54,107 --> 01:42:57,867
Speaker 3: record picks first and the Super Bowl champion last. From

1915
01:42:57,867 --> 01:43:01,027
Speaker 3: this position, the team can either select a player or

1916
01:43:01,147 --> 01:43:04,427
Speaker 3: trade its position to another team for other draft positions,

1917
01:43:04,907 --> 01:43:08,787
Speaker 3: a player or players, or any combination thereof. The rounder

1918
01:43:08,827 --> 01:43:11,427
Speaker 3: is compete when each team has either selected a player

1919
01:43:12,147 --> 01:43:15,147
Speaker 3: or created its position in the draft. Now, certain aspects

1920
01:43:15,147 --> 01:43:18,827
Speaker 3: of the draft, including team positioning and the number of

1921
01:43:18,907 --> 01:43:22,187
Speaker 3: rounds in the draft, have been revised since it's created,

1922
01:43:22,187 --> 01:43:25,387
Speaker 3: but the fundamental method has remained the same. Currently, there

1923
01:43:25,387 --> 01:43:28,787
Speaker 3: are seven rounds taking plays in Wisconsin this year homes

1924
01:43:28,787 --> 01:43:30,867
Speaker 3: of the historical Green Bay Package, which I'm sure a

1925
01:43:30,867 --> 01:43:33,347
Speaker 3: lot of people have heard of before. The twenty twenty

1926
01:43:33,347 --> 01:43:36,307
Speaker 3: five draft will see two hundred and fifty seven players chosen.

1927
01:43:36,907 --> 01:43:39,627
Speaker 3: The original rationale and creating a draft was to increase

1928
01:43:39,707 --> 01:43:43,307
Speaker 3: the competitive parity between the teams, as the worst team

1929
01:43:43,347 --> 01:43:47,067
Speaker 3: would ideally be able to choose the best player available.

1930
01:43:47,467 --> 01:43:49,387
Speaker 3: One of the big factors today are the importance of

1931
01:43:49,467 --> 01:43:52,827
Speaker 3: full time scouts who provide detailed, in depth reports on

1932
01:43:52,947 --> 01:43:54,907
Speaker 3: prospective players entering the league.

1933
01:43:56,027 --> 01:43:58,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, the rationale is good, isn't it? It helps I guess

1934
01:43:58,347 --> 01:44:01,547
Speaker 2: the teams, you know, the weaker teams get the better players.

1935
01:44:01,587 --> 01:44:06,107
Speaker 2: Well that's the theory anyway, does it always work that way?

1936
01:44:06,107 --> 01:44:08,587
Speaker 2: How important is getting your draft picks right if you

1937
01:44:08,627 --> 01:44:10,427
Speaker 2: are one of the one of the teams down the

1938
01:44:10,427 --> 01:44:12,347
Speaker 2: bottom to try and get yourself bag up.

1939
01:44:13,587 --> 01:44:16,627
Speaker 3: Yes, thos are alluded to just previously, pinning the drafters

1940
01:44:16,667 --> 01:44:20,307
Speaker 3: intended to provide greater charity in terms of leveling out

1941
01:44:20,347 --> 01:44:23,467
Speaker 3: the playing field. So in that respect, it's vitally important

1942
01:44:23,507 --> 01:44:26,147
Speaker 3: for teams to get their picks right for their franchise

1943
01:44:26,667 --> 01:44:29,427
Speaker 3: and to be more competitive all around, and it's a

1944
01:44:29,427 --> 01:44:32,587
Speaker 3: better product for the viewing audience. It's also worth mentioning

1945
01:44:32,627 --> 01:44:35,827
Speaker 3: pinting back for the players themselves hoping to be drafted

1946
01:44:35,827 --> 01:44:37,867
Speaker 3: this week, and if you're fortunate enough to be taken

1947
01:44:37,907 --> 01:44:40,907
Speaker 3: by a team, it's literally a life changing moment as

1948
01:44:40,907 --> 01:44:44,587
Speaker 3: a professional athlete, particularly in the NFL. You and your

1949
01:44:44,627 --> 01:44:47,587
Speaker 3: family are set for life financially with generational wealth. So

1950
01:44:47,947 --> 01:44:49,627
Speaker 3: it's almost the kin to winning the lottery.

1951
01:44:50,187 --> 01:44:52,067
Speaker 2: All right, So tell us about the top few picks

1952
01:44:52,107 --> 01:44:55,787
Speaker 2: this year and if there were any surprises among them.

1953
01:44:56,947 --> 01:45:00,467
Speaker 3: Yes, the first round there were thirty two picks, as expected,

1954
01:45:00,587 --> 01:45:03,627
Speaker 3: University of Miami quarterback Cameron Ward was the number one

1955
01:45:03,707 --> 01:45:07,627
Speaker 3: overall pick taken by the Titans. He's expected to make

1956
01:45:07,627 --> 01:45:10,267
Speaker 3: a big difference to Tennessee's pass game, which has struggled

1957
01:45:10,267 --> 01:45:14,147
Speaker 3: in recent years. Nickname off the board was Heisman Trophy

1958
01:45:14,187 --> 01:45:17,907
Speaker 3: winner Travis Hunter, who is an exceptional counant on both

1959
01:45:17,947 --> 01:45:21,067
Speaker 3: sides of the ball. The former Colorado Buffalo is a

1960
01:45:21,107 --> 01:45:23,987
Speaker 3: two way athlete and very unique and that he plays

1961
01:45:24,027 --> 01:45:27,867
Speaker 3: both offense and defense. He goes to the Jacksonville Jaguars,

1962
01:45:27,947 --> 01:45:31,307
Speaker 3: and rounding out the top three, the Giants named penn

1963
01:45:31,307 --> 01:45:34,867
Speaker 3: State linebacker each Russia Abdul Carter to their roster. Like

1964
01:45:34,947 --> 01:45:37,747
Speaker 3: the first two picks, he's going to make a huge

1965
01:45:37,787 --> 01:45:40,187
Speaker 3: difference in New York's defense up front of the trenches.

1966
01:45:40,747 --> 01:45:42,587
Speaker 3: On a personal right for you, Pioneer, I know your

1967
01:45:42,587 --> 01:45:46,347
Speaker 3: son's a Minnesota fan, and his team selected well, drafting

1968
01:45:46,467 --> 01:45:51,187
Speaker 3: five star recruit and former Ohio State Buckeye guard Donovan Jackson.

1969
01:45:51,467 --> 01:45:54,387
Speaker 3: The new Viking recruited fresh of a national total and

1970
01:45:54,427 --> 01:45:56,027
Speaker 3: when they had much needed to steal up front of

1971
01:45:56,067 --> 01:46:00,227
Speaker 3: an already impressive offensive line. Now you mentioned they're surprises.

1972
01:46:00,307 --> 01:46:03,427
Speaker 3: Now I'm glad you asked finally, because the biggest story

1973
01:46:03,467 --> 01:46:05,947
Speaker 3: coming out of the draft this year so far is

1974
01:46:06,027 --> 01:46:09,667
Speaker 3: the non selection of a certain individual player. Teammate to

1975
01:46:09,747 --> 01:46:13,067
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter and former Colorado Buffalo star player should do

1976
01:46:13,107 --> 01:46:16,427
Speaker 3: at Sanders was expected by most mock drafts to go

1977
01:46:16,507 --> 01:46:19,187
Speaker 3: in the first round by teams that are looking or

1978
01:46:19,267 --> 01:46:22,387
Speaker 3: get their quarterback. Now, surprisingly, he was passed up by

1979
01:46:22,427 --> 01:46:27,587
Speaker 3: no less than five teams at picked three, six, seven, nine,

1980
01:46:27,627 --> 01:46:30,347
Speaker 3: and twenty one. Now there's a lot of speculation as

1981
01:46:30,347 --> 01:46:33,267
Speaker 3: to why his stock fell so badly, but that aside,

1982
01:46:33,307 --> 01:46:35,867
Speaker 3: he was expected to go early in round two earlier today,

1983
01:46:36,467 --> 01:46:39,667
Speaker 3: Now as we speak, well into the third round and

1984
01:46:39,787 --> 01:46:41,747
Speaker 3: hard to believe he's still his name still on the

1985
01:46:41,787 --> 01:46:45,627
Speaker 3: board as he was also our Heisman Trophy finances. Did

1986
01:46:45,667 --> 01:46:48,227
Speaker 3: that incredible that some of your lifting audience may be

1987
01:46:48,347 --> 01:46:51,267
Speaker 3: familiar with us should do his last name, his father's

1988
01:46:51,307 --> 01:46:55,347
Speaker 3: pro football Hall of Fame man, current Colorado head coach.

1989
01:46:55,507 --> 01:46:58,947
Speaker 3: Beyond Sanders, if we consider past history pintying, just how

1990
01:46:59,027 --> 01:47:02,587
Speaker 3: unpredictable the NFL draft is. Here are a few examples,

1991
01:47:03,427 --> 01:47:06,147
Speaker 3: and twenty twenty two San Francisco forty nine Ers quarterback

1992
01:47:07,307 --> 01:47:10,747
Speaker 3: was a final thicket number two sixty two unfortunately being

1993
01:47:10,787 --> 01:47:12,987
Speaker 3: tagged mister Irrelevant Now, he led his team to the

1994
01:47:12,987 --> 01:47:17,147
Speaker 3: super Bowl the following year. In twenty eighteen, two time

1995
01:47:17,187 --> 01:47:21,747
Speaker 3: regular season MVP and Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson was passed

1996
01:47:21,787 --> 01:47:25,547
Speaker 3: by multiple teams before Baltimore, who earlier passed on him,

1997
01:47:25,627 --> 01:47:27,747
Speaker 3: drafted them thirty second at the end of round one.

1998
01:47:28,267 --> 01:47:30,667
Speaker 3: And by far the biggest selection of non selection in

1999
01:47:30,827 --> 01:47:34,627
Speaker 3: NFL draft history was in the two thousand NFL Draft. Now,

2000
01:47:34,667 --> 01:47:36,267
Speaker 3: a lot of your listeners will definitely have heard of

2001
01:47:36,307 --> 01:47:38,987
Speaker 3: this guy taken off the board in round six and

2002
01:47:39,027 --> 01:47:42,667
Speaker 3: selected at number one, ninety nine by the New England Patriots,

2003
01:47:42,707 --> 01:47:45,267
Speaker 3: a quarterback by the name of Tom Brady. As they say,

2004
01:47:45,307 --> 01:47:48,467
Speaker 3: the rest of history. The unpredictability of a draft, as weld,

2005
01:47:48,467 --> 01:47:51,667
Speaker 3: makes it so compellion and a fascinating watch. Piney, even

2006
01:47:51,667 --> 01:47:53,667
Speaker 3: if we expect it's run into round three and it's

2007
01:47:53,707 --> 01:47:55,787
Speaker 3: more drama to follow over the next couple of days.

2008
01:47:55,827 --> 01:47:57,707
Speaker 3: Pinty really TV at It's beast.

2009
01:47:57,707 --> 01:48:00,787
Speaker 2: If you ask me absolutely, I can hear it in

2010
01:48:00,787 --> 01:48:02,547
Speaker 2: your voice. I could hear it in your voice better

2011
01:48:02,587 --> 01:48:06,147
Speaker 2: than any Love Island already, these other reality shows the NFL.

2012
01:48:06,467 --> 01:48:09,787
Speaker 2: After I know you've also had divided focus because the

2013
01:48:09,907 --> 01:48:13,147
Speaker 2: NBA Playoffs are on eight teams from the Eastern Conference

2014
01:48:13,187 --> 01:48:16,747
Speaker 2: eight from the West. In our first round matchups best

2015
01:48:16,787 --> 01:48:18,947
Speaker 2: of seven. We'll get through as many of these as

2016
01:48:18,947 --> 01:48:22,267
Speaker 2: we can. Some of the games are ongoing at the moment.

2017
01:48:22,907 --> 01:48:26,827
Speaker 2: Let's start in the East. The top seeds in the East,

2018
01:48:27,387 --> 01:48:29,867
Speaker 2: the Caves up against the Heats, who must have gone

2019
01:48:29,907 --> 01:48:32,987
Speaker 2: through the playing because they finished tenth and the regular season,

2020
01:48:33,067 --> 01:48:36,627
Speaker 2: but tied up at one all after the first two games,

2021
01:48:36,627 --> 01:48:39,307
Speaker 2: with Game three tomorrow back in Miami.

2022
01:48:40,467 --> 01:48:44,547
Speaker 3: Okay, so I don't normally correct you, pony, but actually

2023
01:48:44,627 --> 01:48:46,987
Speaker 3: the Cavaliers, the number one seed over the number eight

2024
01:48:47,067 --> 01:48:49,907
Speaker 3: seed Heat, hold a two to no advantage in games.

2025
01:48:50,067 --> 01:48:51,787
Speaker 2: Good tomorrow, gotcha? Okay?

2026
01:48:51,787 --> 01:48:56,747
Speaker 3: Good, Yeah, no worries. I'm happy to do that. Cleveland

2027
01:48:56,787 --> 01:48:58,947
Speaker 3: should easily wrap up the series in four or five.

2028
01:48:59,347 --> 01:49:01,587
Speaker 3: So I've got the second best regular season record and

2029
01:49:01,627 --> 01:49:03,267
Speaker 3: the best road record of any other team in the

2030
01:49:03,307 --> 01:49:03,947
Speaker 3: league this year.

2031
01:49:05,347 --> 01:49:09,107
Speaker 2: Let's go to the Celtic, who finished second in the

2032
01:49:09,147 --> 01:49:12,507
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference. Are pretty sure that they were too nil up,

2033
01:49:12,507 --> 01:49:15,507
Speaker 2: although Game three has just finished in Orlando. They're up

2034
01:49:15,507 --> 01:49:18,107
Speaker 2: against the Magic, and the Magic have won a tight one,

2035
01:49:18,227 --> 01:49:20,987
Speaker 2: ninety five ninety three. So that makes it two one

2036
01:49:21,067 --> 01:49:24,027
Speaker 2: to the Celtics after three games. I think yeah.

2037
01:49:24,067 --> 01:49:27,387
Speaker 3: So the number two Celtics against number seven Magic, both

2038
01:49:27,427 --> 01:49:30,667
Speaker 3: another defending champions. They should wrap the series up in five,

2039
01:49:30,707 --> 01:49:33,467
Speaker 3: even though they dropped today's game. But that said, their

2040
01:49:33,467 --> 01:49:36,947
Speaker 3: finals experience in a deeper bench should see them overcome

2041
01:49:36,987 --> 01:49:38,587
Speaker 3: the inexperienced Orlando from here on.

2042
01:49:38,667 --> 01:49:44,827
Speaker 2: It all right, Bucks paces Paces were two nil ahead

2043
01:49:45,187 --> 01:49:49,147
Speaker 2: going into Game three, which was in Milwaukee. But I

2044
01:49:49,187 --> 01:49:52,187
Speaker 2: think again, the Milwaukee Bucks, helped by the home crowd,

2045
01:49:52,227 --> 01:49:54,267
Speaker 2: no doubt, have picked up. But when there you're still

2046
01:49:54,267 --> 01:49:56,507
Speaker 2: back the Paces over the Bucks. Or is this one

2047
01:49:56,507 --> 01:49:57,347
Speaker 2: a bit harder to pick?

2048
01:49:58,227 --> 01:49:58,427
Speaker 13: Yes?

2049
01:49:58,507 --> 01:50:01,067
Speaker 3: So the number four Paces against the number five Bucks.

2050
01:50:01,107 --> 01:50:03,387
Speaker 3: As you said, you know, the Bucks managed to pick

2051
01:50:03,467 --> 01:50:05,587
Speaker 3: up the game today, but if you look at the

2052
01:50:05,627 --> 01:50:07,987
Speaker 3: depth of the team Indian they have them. They've been

2053
01:50:07,987 --> 01:50:10,427
Speaker 3: the more consistent team throughout the regular season, and they

2054
01:50:10,467 --> 01:50:12,907
Speaker 3: had the edge should they take the seat even though

2055
01:50:12,907 --> 01:50:16,307
Speaker 3: they lost today. However, Pony, the biggest storyline from this

2056
01:50:16,587 --> 01:50:20,307
Speaker 3: is that there are underlying rumors that superstar for the Bucks,

2057
01:50:20,547 --> 01:50:24,347
Speaker 3: Gianna started the compound, always had trouble pronouncing his name

2058
01:50:25,587 --> 01:50:28,147
Speaker 3: unfictionately known as the Greek Freak. He may move on

2059
01:50:28,187 --> 01:50:29,987
Speaker 3: at the end of the season. He's one of the

2060
01:50:30,027 --> 01:50:32,627
Speaker 3: most dominant players in the association. But it's hungry for

2061
01:50:32,667 --> 01:50:35,787
Speaker 3: another ring and unfortunately their bucks aren't in the conversation

2062
01:50:35,907 --> 01:50:39,787
Speaker 3: one as a legitimate championship contender for him. So yeah,

2063
01:50:39,827 --> 01:50:42,427
Speaker 3: there's a lot of rumors swerling that he may move

2064
01:50:42,467 --> 01:50:43,267
Speaker 3: on to another team.

2065
01:50:43,867 --> 01:50:46,387
Speaker 2: All right, final game in the East or final matchups?

2066
01:50:46,467 --> 01:50:50,307
Speaker 2: Next Pistons next to one ahead. They've had three games here.

2067
01:50:50,387 --> 01:50:54,427
Speaker 2: Game four is on Monday back in Detroit. Next to

2068
01:50:54,467 --> 01:50:56,747
Speaker 2: go through in five or six games here.

2069
01:50:57,787 --> 01:51:00,027
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the third rank next against the sixth rank

2070
01:51:00,427 --> 01:51:02,827
Speaker 3: Piston in the Eastern Conference. This is probably the most

2071
01:51:02,907 --> 01:51:05,747
Speaker 3: even series in the East. So it's a hard one

2072
01:51:05,787 --> 01:51:07,947
Speaker 3: to pick by I'm going to give New York for

2073
01:51:08,027 --> 01:51:10,907
Speaker 3: slight edges. They have home court advantage should it go

2074
01:51:10,987 --> 01:51:12,627
Speaker 3: to a series deciding game seven.

2075
01:51:13,747 --> 01:51:17,987
Speaker 2: Let's go to the Western Conference Clippers Nuggets. Clippers lead

2076
01:51:18,067 --> 01:51:20,747
Speaker 2: to one with game four tomorrow. This is the four

2077
01:51:20,867 --> 01:51:22,867
Speaker 2: v five matchup, I guess, of all of them, when

2078
01:51:22,947 --> 01:51:25,187
Speaker 2: four plays five, it's probably the hardest one to pick,

2079
01:51:25,267 --> 01:51:25,587
Speaker 2: isn't it.

2080
01:51:26,707 --> 01:51:28,867
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, I'm a bit of a Nuggets fan,

2081
01:51:28,947 --> 01:51:32,427
Speaker 3: but unfortunately for Denver, I've been through a bit of

2082
01:51:33,147 --> 01:51:37,067
Speaker 3: change recently, the surprise frown of their head coach. They're

2083
01:51:37,067 --> 01:51:39,507
Speaker 3: playing against the form team of the competition and despite

2084
01:51:39,587 --> 01:51:42,387
Speaker 3: him the best plan of the league. I don't see

2085
01:51:42,387 --> 01:51:45,467
Speaker 3: the series going their way, so I expect the al

2086
01:51:45,587 --> 01:51:48,067
Speaker 3: Clippers to wrap up the series sooner than later year.

2087
01:51:49,107 --> 01:51:51,587
Speaker 2: The other LA side, the Lakers. They're in action as

2088
01:51:51,627 --> 01:51:54,907
Speaker 2: we speak, actually in Game three of their series against

2089
01:51:54,947 --> 01:51:58,427
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Timberwolves. The series tied at one apiece, the

2090
01:51:58,507 --> 01:52:02,867
Speaker 2: Lakers narrowly ahead in the second quarter. Lakers third seed,

2091
01:52:02,907 --> 01:52:06,507
Speaker 2: Timberwolves sixth, so Lakers eventually to go through the thin.

2092
01:52:07,707 --> 01:52:10,307
Speaker 3: Yeah, the series could go either way, pine even probably

2093
01:52:10,387 --> 01:52:13,107
Speaker 3: to seven games. On paper, you'd have to lean towards

2094
01:52:13,187 --> 01:52:17,947
Speaker 3: LA with Lebron and Luca, even though the Timberwolves do

2095
01:52:18,067 --> 01:52:22,027
Speaker 3: have some star players. But if you look at the roster,

2096
01:52:22,387 --> 01:52:24,867
Speaker 3: LA have the much deeper roster, and if it does

2097
01:52:24,947 --> 01:52:26,707
Speaker 3: go to a designing game, I think I'll leave with

2098
01:52:26,747 --> 01:52:28,627
Speaker 3: the Lakers here in a close series.

2099
01:52:28,787 --> 01:52:33,107
Speaker 2: All right, Grizzly Thunder, this is one way traffic. Oklahoma

2100
01:52:33,107 --> 01:52:36,267
Speaker 2: City Thunder three nill ahead after three games, Game four

2101
01:52:36,387 --> 01:52:39,827
Speaker 2: is in Memphis. But are the Thunder going to sweep this,

2102
01:52:39,867 --> 01:52:40,867
Speaker 2: aren't they?

2103
01:52:41,347 --> 01:52:41,547
Speaker 16: Yeah?

2104
01:52:41,587 --> 01:52:44,507
Speaker 3: I think it's time to get the brim up piney. Okay,

2105
01:52:44,627 --> 01:52:46,627
Speaker 3: he should wrap the series up tomorrow in or four

2106
01:52:46,667 --> 01:52:50,027
Speaker 3: games three. Memphis had the worst regular season record coming

2107
01:52:50,067 --> 01:52:53,027
Speaker 3: into the postseason, whereas the Thunder had the best regular

2108
01:52:53,067 --> 01:52:56,907
Speaker 3: season record. And I'm looking ominous. I'd be rusurprize of Okay, See,

2109
01:52:56,907 --> 01:52:58,707
Speaker 3: don't come out of the Western Conference and make the

2110
01:52:58,787 --> 01:52:59,867
Speaker 3: NBA Finals this year?

2111
01:53:00,467 --> 01:53:03,467
Speaker 2: All right? And the final matchup is the Golden State

2112
01:53:03,507 --> 01:53:08,867
Speaker 2: Warriors against the Houston Rockets, tie at one apiece after

2113
01:53:08,947 --> 01:53:12,387
Speaker 2: two games. Game three is tomorrow. Which one do you

2114
01:53:12,387 --> 01:53:13,147
Speaker 2: see this one going?

2115
01:53:14,387 --> 01:53:16,787
Speaker 3: Yeah? Finally, out of all the Round one series, this

2116
01:53:16,787 --> 01:53:19,067
Speaker 3: will be the reskin cunning to watch in the closest.

2117
01:53:19,467 --> 01:53:22,547
Speaker 3: You have championship pedigree and outside shooting and future Hall

2118
01:53:22,587 --> 01:53:26,267
Speaker 3: of Famous Steph Curry and Golden State State up against

2119
01:53:26,267 --> 01:53:29,667
Speaker 3: the physical inside game of TV Stephen Adams Houston. I

2120
01:53:29,667 --> 01:53:31,787
Speaker 3: can certainly see this going to seven games at the

2121
01:53:31,827 --> 01:53:34,627
Speaker 3: Harnes Series for the winner. So whever I'm going to

2122
01:53:34,707 --> 01:53:37,107
Speaker 3: lean in favor of Golden Step because of their championship,

2123
01:53:37,187 --> 01:53:39,267
Speaker 3: DNA pedigree and their finals experience.

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Speaker 2: Great to get your expertise, Leon, covering off so much

2125
01:53:43,627 --> 01:53:47,227
Speaker 2: basketball while you're also keeping your eyes on the NFL draft,

2126
01:53:47,227 --> 01:53:50,427
Speaker 2: pronouncing names correctly and even correcting these. I think we'll

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Speaker 2: give you. We'll give you an A plus for today, Mate,

2128
01:53:53,067 --> 01:53:55,867
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us with your state side segments as

2129
01:53:55,907 --> 01:53:57,587
Speaker 2: always so awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me on today, Pony, A lot

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01:53:59,387 --> 01:54:01,387
Speaker 3: to digest and I look forward to sharing my insights

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Speaker 3: with you and your audience agetting as soon. Have a

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01:54:03,227 --> 01:54:04,227
Speaker 3: great day, mate, you.

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Speaker 2: Have a great day to Leon. We look forward to

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Speaker 2: your next contribution to the show too. It's Lee on

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Speaker 2: Busby Stateside here on Weekend Sport. It's twenty to three

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01:54:13,307 --> 01:54:15,467
Speaker 2: when we come back. It's the Snooker.

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Speaker 1: One cruch Hold Engage Weekend Sport with Jason Hive and GJ. Gunderholmes,

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01:54:22,347 --> 01:54:24,387
Speaker 1: New Zealand's first trusted home builder.

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01:54:24,267 --> 01:54:25,267
Speaker 5: News Talk to Bailey.

2141
01:54:25,987 --> 01:54:28,947
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty five World Snooker Championship started at the

2142
01:54:28,987 --> 01:54:32,267
Speaker 2: Crucible Theater in Sheffield last weekend. We'll run through until

2143
01:54:32,347 --> 01:54:34,947
Speaker 2: next Monday. Great pleasure to welcome to the show. Chief

2144
01:54:35,147 --> 01:54:39,627
Speaker 2: snooker writer for Totally Snookered Michael Day Michael, thanks for

2145
01:54:39,707 --> 01:54:42,067
Speaker 2: joining us. First of all, where are we in the

2146
01:54:42,107 --> 01:54:45,027
Speaker 2: tournament in terms of completed matches?

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01:54:46,307 --> 01:54:48,907
Speaker 15: Thanks for having me on, Jason. Yeah, we're currently at

2148
01:54:48,907 --> 01:54:53,227
Speaker 15: the second round stage. So actually the Championship as a whole,

2149
01:54:53,827 --> 01:54:56,347
Speaker 15: we had ten days of qualifying before the main event

2150
01:54:56,347 --> 01:54:58,707
Speaker 15: at the Crucible Theater, so it's a real sort of

2151
01:54:58,747 --> 01:55:02,667
Speaker 15: like month long extravaganza of snooker. But we've just completed

2152
01:55:02,667 --> 01:55:04,547
Speaker 15: the first round, so that's the last statue at the

2153
01:55:04,547 --> 01:55:08,507
Speaker 15: Crucible and we're currently at the last sixteenth stage that

2154
01:55:08,587 --> 01:55:12,667
Speaker 15: will carry on until Tuesday, and then Tuesday Wednesdays the

2155
01:55:12,747 --> 01:55:15,467
Speaker 15: quarterfinals and from there it will be the one table

2156
01:55:15,507 --> 01:55:17,707
Speaker 15: set for the last four and semi finals.

2157
01:55:18,387 --> 01:55:21,667
Speaker 2: Major shock on the opening day defending champion, top seed

2158
01:55:21,747 --> 01:55:25,107
Speaker 2: Tyron Wilson, who won last year, of course against Jack Jones,

2159
01:55:25,507 --> 01:55:29,107
Speaker 2: knocked out by a Chinese qualifier in the first round.

2160
01:55:29,187 --> 01:55:31,027
Speaker 2: How big a shock surprise was this?

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01:55:33,067 --> 01:55:37,387
Speaker 15: It's incredible really. Obviously we talk about the Crucible curse,

2162
01:55:37,867 --> 01:55:40,907
Speaker 15: so no first time champion at the crucibill has successfully

2163
01:55:40,907 --> 01:55:44,907
Speaker 15: defended the title the following year. But Kyron, I mean,

2164
01:55:44,947 --> 01:55:46,707
Speaker 15: he was my tip for the tournament. He's been in

2165
01:55:46,747 --> 01:55:50,027
Speaker 15: fantastic form since winning the world title last year, He's

2166
01:55:50,067 --> 01:55:53,227
Speaker 15: taken his game up several levels, won four big ranking

2167
01:55:53,267 --> 01:55:56,467
Speaker 15: events this season, and he really was, you know, a

2168
01:55:56,507 --> 01:55:58,147
Speaker 15: pick for many people to win the whole tournament.

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01:55:58,227 --> 01:56:01,227
Speaker 5: But Laipei Fan, the player.

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01:56:00,907 --> 01:56:04,267
Speaker 15: He played, is a really good young Chinese player making

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01:56:04,307 --> 01:56:07,027
Speaker 15: his Crucible debut, and he actually won a torn earlier

2172
01:56:07,027 --> 01:56:10,147
Speaker 15: on in the season down I think he was ranked

2173
01:56:10,227 --> 01:56:12,947
Speaker 15: in the seventies. That was a big shot, but yet

2174
01:56:13,027 --> 01:56:16,587
Speaker 15: big upset. Kiraroen was six straight up. Leape Fan played

2175
01:56:16,627 --> 01:56:19,907
Speaker 15: exceptionally well. Kiron come back at him but went to

2176
01:56:19,987 --> 01:56:24,027
Speaker 15: deciding frame and fair credit to Lay because he stayed positive,

2177
01:56:24,067 --> 01:56:25,667
Speaker 15: and it really was a big upset.

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01:56:25,907 --> 01:56:28,387
Speaker 2: All right. Well, ask about a couple of other players

2179
01:56:28,787 --> 01:56:32,107
Speaker 2: in around one. Seven time winner Ronego Sullivan. This is

2180
01:56:32,107 --> 01:56:36,147
Speaker 2: this thirty third consecutive edition of the tournament. He says, though,

2181
01:56:36,627 --> 01:56:40,467
Speaker 2: despite battling stage fright and nerves over the last couple

2182
01:56:40,547 --> 01:56:42,107
Speaker 2: of years, how did he looking around one?

2183
01:56:43,627 --> 01:56:45,867
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's an interesting one because we haven't seen Ronnie

2184
01:56:45,907 --> 01:56:48,667
Speaker 15: since the start of January. He was playing in the

2185
01:56:48,747 --> 01:56:52,307
Speaker 15: Championship League invitation and he actually snapped his queue deliberately.

2186
01:56:53,107 --> 01:56:54,867
Speaker 15: I hear that he actually chucked it in the toilet

2187
01:56:54,907 --> 01:56:56,987
Speaker 15: as well, and so we've not seen him on the

2188
01:56:57,027 --> 01:57:00,227
Speaker 15: professional circuit since then. Come back using a new queue,

2189
01:57:00,347 --> 01:57:02,747
Speaker 15: which is quite big for Ronnie because his old Q

2190
01:57:03,347 --> 01:57:06,067
Speaker 15: he'd won world titles with. It was a bit of

2191
01:57:06,107 --> 01:57:08,347
Speaker 15: a he actually performance in the first session from Ronnie.

2192
01:57:09,067 --> 01:57:12,987
Speaker 15: His opponent Ali Carter wasn't it wasn't on top gear either.

2193
01:57:13,227 --> 01:57:16,667
Speaker 15: But the second session Ronnie was exceptional. He made three

2194
01:57:16,667 --> 01:57:19,627
Speaker 15: centuries in space of four frames, a seventy, a couple

2195
01:57:19,627 --> 01:57:22,307
Speaker 15: of fifties, and from a position of where it was

2196
01:57:22,347 --> 01:57:24,387
Speaker 15: five to four, where it's looking like it could be

2197
01:57:24,387 --> 01:57:27,027
Speaker 15: a tight finish, Ronnie just he just ran away with

2198
01:57:27,067 --> 01:57:29,227
Speaker 15: the match and it was a very very impressive performance,

2199
01:57:29,707 --> 01:57:32,427
Speaker 15: and you know, all of a sudden we're talking about

2200
01:57:32,467 --> 01:57:34,307
Speaker 15: a potentially eight tworld title for the Rocket.

2201
01:57:34,947 --> 01:57:39,787
Speaker 2: Is he still pretty popular with snooker fans, Ronnie O'Sullivan.

2202
01:57:40,587 --> 01:57:43,347
Speaker 15: Oh, one hundred percent. You know, he is the flag bearer,

2203
01:57:43,427 --> 01:57:45,827
Speaker 15: he is, you know, he is the top draw.

2204
01:57:47,387 --> 01:57:47,627
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2205
01:57:47,667 --> 01:57:51,427
Speaker 15: I mean he does say things in the media and

2206
01:57:51,467 --> 01:57:54,027
Speaker 15: sometimes his actions are a little bit unhelpful for the

2207
01:57:54,067 --> 01:57:56,547
Speaker 15: sport perhaps, but you know, when he gets on the

2208
01:57:56,587 --> 01:57:59,107
Speaker 15: table and he performs like he did in the second

2209
01:57:59,147 --> 01:58:00,307
Speaker 15: session of his open real match.

2210
01:58:00,747 --> 01:58:01,467
Speaker 2: We just were.

2211
01:58:01,387 --> 01:58:03,507
Speaker 15: Reminded, while we love Ronnie, you know he's been at

2212
01:58:03,547 --> 01:58:05,587
Speaker 15: the top of the sport now for over three decades.

2213
01:58:05,947 --> 01:58:11,267
Speaker 15: You know, he's just an absolute Hollywood sporting superstar. Yeah,

2214
01:58:11,307 --> 01:58:13,627
Speaker 15: and I mean, you know, he's forty nine years old. Now,

2215
01:58:14,387 --> 01:58:16,787
Speaker 15: most sports people would be you know, they'd be retired

2216
01:58:16,827 --> 01:58:18,787
Speaker 15: and have their feet up and point and slippers and

2217
01:58:18,827 --> 01:58:21,427
Speaker 15: all that. But Ronnie, at times, even though he's not

2218
01:58:21,467 --> 01:58:24,827
Speaker 15: as consistent as he was in the past, at times

2219
01:58:24,827 --> 01:58:26,947
Speaker 15: he just looks as best as he's ever been before.

2220
01:58:27,427 --> 01:58:30,467
Speaker 15: And hopefully he'll be around for many more years yet.

2221
01:58:30,387 --> 01:58:32,867
Speaker 2: Neil It's type. So another upset in the final round

2222
01:58:32,867 --> 01:58:36,987
Speaker 2: my match qualifier, Ben Wallaston beating Mark Selby teen eight.

2223
01:58:37,027 --> 01:58:40,227
Speaker 2: I think there was Wollaston's first match victory at the Crucible.

2224
01:58:40,307 --> 01:58:41,147
Speaker 2: Tell us about that one.

2225
01:58:42,507 --> 01:58:46,027
Speaker 15: Yes, another really interesting match that Mark Selby's had a

2226
01:58:46,067 --> 01:58:49,907
Speaker 15: really rejuvenating season, won three events, so a bit like

2227
01:58:49,987 --> 01:58:52,947
Speaker 15: Cora and Wilson. He come into the tournament, as you know,

2228
01:58:53,027 --> 01:58:56,307
Speaker 15: one of the real serious contenders for the title. But

2229
01:58:56,347 --> 01:58:59,427
Speaker 15: he actually drew Ben Willison, who's a fellow Leicester player,

2230
01:58:59,427 --> 01:59:01,267
Speaker 15: so they're both from the same cities. They knew each

2231
01:59:01,267 --> 01:59:03,427
Speaker 15: other very well, and I actually think that was a

2232
01:59:03,467 --> 01:59:05,907
Speaker 15: bad draw for Mark because obviously when you play someone

2233
01:59:05,907 --> 01:59:08,387
Speaker 15: you know very well, a mate or a practice partner,

2234
01:59:08,427 --> 01:59:12,027
Speaker 15: it can sometimes take the intensity away. But for Ben Williston,

2235
01:59:12,227 --> 01:59:14,267
Speaker 15: he'd not been at the crucill for twelve years. This

2236
01:59:14,427 --> 01:59:17,987
Speaker 15: was his second appearance. He qualified and Sawby just did

2237
01:59:18,027 --> 01:59:22,587
Speaker 15: not perform. It was a very very strange, scrappy performance

2238
01:59:22,587 --> 01:59:25,587
Speaker 15: from him, and the fair credit to Ben Williston. He

2239
01:59:25,667 --> 01:59:27,827
Speaker 15: managed to get the job done ten eight and that's

2240
01:59:27,827 --> 01:59:30,187
Speaker 15: a really big win for him and it'd be interesting

2241
01:59:30,347 --> 01:59:32,747
Speaker 15: how he gets on for the remainder of the competition.

2242
01:59:33,107 --> 01:59:36,067
Speaker 2: World number one Judd Trump, he didn't have any issues

2243
01:59:36,067 --> 01:59:39,947
Speaker 2: study five centuries I see here during a team four

2244
01:59:40,347 --> 01:59:43,427
Speaker 2: round one victory. Would Trump be favorite to win the

2245
01:59:43,467 --> 01:59:43,867
Speaker 2: whole thing?

2246
01:59:43,907 --> 01:59:44,107
Speaker 17: Now?

2247
01:59:45,747 --> 01:59:45,987
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2248
01:59:46,267 --> 01:59:48,867
Speaker 15: Again, it's another really interesting point because he's the runaway

2249
01:59:48,907 --> 01:59:53,147
Speaker 15: world number one. He's won three massive events this season.

2250
01:59:54,267 --> 01:59:56,187
Speaker 15: Second half of the season his form has been a

2251
01:59:56,187 --> 01:59:58,547
Speaker 15: little bit more patchy, but he comes in. He was

2252
01:59:58,587 --> 02:00:01,227
Speaker 15: a tournament favorite and it was a bit weird because

2253
02:00:01,627 --> 02:00:03,547
Speaker 15: several of the players were sort of being talked ahead

2254
02:00:03,547 --> 02:00:05,027
Speaker 15: of him. But you've got jud Trump, like I say,

2255
02:00:05,067 --> 02:00:08,907
Speaker 15: he's the world number one, and his performance against Julie

2256
02:00:08,947 --> 02:00:12,707
Speaker 15: Long was fantastic. He made five centuries. He actually equaled

2257
02:00:12,747 --> 02:00:15,907
Speaker 15: the record for the most centuries made by one player

2258
02:00:15,907 --> 02:00:18,787
Speaker 15: in a round one match. That just proves how well

2259
02:00:18,787 --> 02:00:22,667
Speaker 15: he is playing. He's actually up to ninety eight centuries

2260
02:00:22,667 --> 02:00:24,467
Speaker 15: for the season, so if he gets two more at

2261
02:00:24,507 --> 02:00:27,547
Speaker 15: the Crucible over the coming days, he actually pockets one

2262
02:00:27,627 --> 02:00:29,987
Speaker 15: hundred thousand pounds bonus. So he's also got that little

2263
02:00:29,987 --> 02:00:34,107
Speaker 15: bit of added pressure as well. Yes, he's rightfully the favorite.

2264
02:00:34,427 --> 02:00:36,907
Speaker 15: There are question marks. Obviously he's won this before, but

2265
02:00:36,947 --> 02:00:42,387
Speaker 15: there are question marks around his reliability over longer matches,

2266
02:00:42,467 --> 02:00:45,867
Speaker 15: multi session matches, and he's got Sean Murphy in the

2267
02:00:45,987 --> 02:00:49,147
Speaker 15: last sixteen so that's a real blockbuster tie. If he

2268
02:00:49,187 --> 02:00:53,307
Speaker 15: can get past Murphy, then I think, you know, he

2269
02:00:53,347 --> 02:00:55,027
Speaker 15: could go all the way and get the second World crown,

2270
02:00:55,187 --> 02:00:55,547
Speaker 15: all right?

2271
02:00:55,587 --> 02:00:58,387
Speaker 2: And who else, Michael, who else has We've talked about

2272
02:00:58,387 --> 02:01:01,267
Speaker 2: a couple of players who are still there, but who

2273
02:01:01,347 --> 02:01:04,547
Speaker 2: else that we haven't mentioned might yet go deep into

2274
02:01:04,547 --> 02:01:05,147
Speaker 2: this tournament.

2275
02:01:06,587 --> 02:01:06,747
Speaker 3: Well.

2276
02:01:06,787 --> 02:01:09,747
Speaker 15: One of the running stories throughout the tournament, even from

2277
02:01:09,747 --> 02:01:14,427
Speaker 15: the very first qualifying round, was China's Xiaoxing Tong and

2278
02:01:14,627 --> 02:01:19,707
Speaker 15: now Zoo is a former UK champion, former top six player,

2279
02:01:20,347 --> 02:01:24,307
Speaker 15: but he was involved in the Chinese match fixing scandal

2280
02:01:24,307 --> 02:01:27,867
Speaker 15: from a few years ago. He wasn't found to fixed

2281
02:01:27,907 --> 02:01:31,507
Speaker 15: any matches himself, but he was evolved in the scandal

2282
02:01:31,547 --> 02:01:33,267
Speaker 15: and he was banned from the sport for two years.

2283
02:01:34,067 --> 02:01:35,827
Speaker 15: So he actually come back at the start of this

2284
02:01:35,947 --> 02:01:39,387
Speaker 15: year on the amateur circuit, managed to get his professional

2285
02:01:39,427 --> 02:01:41,467
Speaker 15: tour card back, so he's actually competing here at the

2286
02:01:41,467 --> 02:01:45,787
Speaker 15: Crucibill as an amateur. He won four qualifying rounds, so

2287
02:01:45,827 --> 02:01:48,547
Speaker 15: he's coming through the sort of labyrinth of preliminary ratches

2288
02:01:49,347 --> 02:01:53,107
Speaker 15: at the Cruise. We beat Jack Jones quite comfortably really

2289
02:01:53,347 --> 02:01:55,387
Speaker 15: to get into the last sixteen, and as we speak

2290
02:01:55,427 --> 02:01:58,307
Speaker 15: now he's winning his last sixteen match against Laypey Fan.

2291
02:01:58,747 --> 02:02:01,427
Speaker 15: The player beat Kyan Wilson. So I think Chao zing

2292
02:02:01,427 --> 02:02:05,387
Speaker 15: Tong is somebody who I've seen like Ronnie O'SULLIVM. He's

2293
02:02:05,427 --> 02:02:08,067
Speaker 15: li likened him to like a glitler of snooker, even

2294
02:02:08,107 --> 02:02:10,827
Speaker 15: though he show's a few years older than Luke. So

2295
02:02:11,387 --> 02:02:14,787
Speaker 15: very interesting what happens with Jiao. Obviously, we've never had

2296
02:02:14,787 --> 02:02:18,107
Speaker 15: a Chinese world champion. This year We've had a record

2297
02:02:18,187 --> 02:02:20,867
Speaker 15: number of Chinese players at the Cruise will We've had ten.

2298
02:02:21,427 --> 02:02:24,187
Speaker 15: Previously it was six, so that perhaps sort of shows

2299
02:02:24,227 --> 02:02:26,667
Speaker 15: you with the direction of you know where snooker is going.

2300
02:02:27,027 --> 02:02:29,507
Speaker 15: But we've got so many other great players there, Like

2301
02:02:29,507 --> 02:02:31,627
Speaker 15: I say, we've got Murphy, We've got Luca Prissell, you

2302
02:02:31,707 --> 02:02:35,707
Speaker 15: won the tournament two years ago, Dingenui and another top

2303
02:02:35,787 --> 02:02:38,787
Speaker 15: Chinese player class ninety two is still there, John Higgins,

2304
02:02:38,787 --> 02:02:42,427
Speaker 15: Mark Williams. We really do have a stacked tournament and

2305
02:02:41,907 --> 02:02:44,547
Speaker 15: it's it's shaping up to be possibly one of the

2306
02:02:44,547 --> 02:02:46,227
Speaker 15: most exciting world championships and years.

2307
02:02:46,387 --> 02:02:49,187
Speaker 2: Absolutely even hearing the names that it makes you look

2308
02:02:49,227 --> 02:02:51,547
Speaker 2: forward to the week you hear in just to finish Michael,

2309
02:02:51,587 --> 02:02:55,627
Speaker 2: the tournament itself, the World Snooker Championship, the sitting at

2310
02:02:55,627 --> 02:02:59,947
Speaker 2: the Crucible Theater in Sheffield. Still plenty of prestige, still

2311
02:02:59,987 --> 02:03:03,627
Speaker 2: plenty of interest. Tickets relatively hard to come by, are

2312
02:03:03,627 --> 02:03:07,147
Speaker 2: they They're like gold dust, they really are.

2313
02:03:07,187 --> 02:03:10,347
Speaker 15: They get pretty much sold out pretty much a year

2314
02:03:10,387 --> 02:03:14,467
Speaker 15: in advance. It really is if you've never been to

2315
02:03:14,467 --> 02:03:16,787
Speaker 15: the crucib but it is a very very special atmosphere.

2316
02:03:16,787 --> 02:03:20,267
Speaker 15: It is like a cauldron especially in these early rounds

2317
02:03:20,307 --> 02:03:23,347
Speaker 15: where you've got two tables. If you're in the front row,

2318
02:03:23,387 --> 02:03:25,747
Speaker 15: you could actually stick your arm out and you know,

2319
02:03:25,867 --> 02:03:29,267
Speaker 15: touch the player. It's such a fantastic atmosphere's it's an

2320
02:03:29,267 --> 02:03:34,827
Speaker 15: electric atmosphere. Obviously, there's there's talks and conversations whether the

2321
02:03:34,867 --> 02:03:37,587
Speaker 15: Crucilli will will still host this tournament because the contract

2322
02:03:37,667 --> 02:03:41,147
Speaker 15: runs out in twenty twenty seven, and we've had bosses

2323
02:03:41,187 --> 02:03:43,587
Speaker 15: of the sport talking about this last year. In this year,

2324
02:03:44,427 --> 02:03:47,227
Speaker 15: it would be a big pity if you know, it

2325
02:03:47,267 --> 02:03:50,787
Speaker 15: was to leave the Crucible, but the fans absolutely love it.

2326
02:03:52,027 --> 02:03:54,947
Speaker 15: The players it's you know, the players is mixed bad

2327
02:03:54,947 --> 02:03:58,907
Speaker 15: because you know, the pressure. The facilities probably aren't what

2328
02:03:58,947 --> 02:04:01,107
Speaker 15: you would expect for a World Championship, but that adds

2329
02:04:01,147 --> 02:04:03,627
Speaker 15: to its character and that's what makes it such a

2330
02:04:03,747 --> 02:04:06,307
Speaker 15: unique test in the snooker and sporting world.

2331
02:04:07,267 --> 02:04:09,067
Speaker 2: Michael, thank you so much for joining us across New

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Speaker 2: Zealand and giving us some really great insight into the

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Speaker 2: World Snooker Championship. We look forward to the second round matches,

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Speaker 2: onto the quarters and the Royal Business end of the tournament. Again,

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Speaker 2: thank you for your time this afternoon.

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Speaker 15: Thank you Jason, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: No appreciate your time. Michael Michael day There, chief snooker

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Speaker 2: writer for Totally Snookered seven to three.

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Speaker 2: a man to take us out. Thanks for listening. Join

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Speaker 2: us tomorrow's well built towards Aukland FC, perhaps claiming silver

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