1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Net profit will be significantly lower than expected. For one 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: of the first locally listed companies impacted by the US 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: tariff regime, Tourism Holdings Limit, has sent a dramatic slowdown 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: in bookings by its US division. Its share price fell 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: more than ten per cent after announcing it was downgrading 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: its earnings outlook. Tourism Holding's chief executive, Grant Webster, is 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: with me now, thanks for your time, Grant, good morning, 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: good morning. How much is the political issues happening, the 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: volatility to blame for people not buying and renting? Are these. 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: It's pretty hard to get into the psyche of all 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: the individuals, but certainly the tour operators that we work 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: with out of Germany certainly say their customers are saying 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: just not interested in going to the USA at the moment. 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: How big of a reduction have you seen in the US? 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: So look, in recent weeks our booking intakes for the 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: rentals division into the US are down forty to fifty percent. 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: So that's it's obviously prett not quite as dramatic as 18 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: COVID when borders closed, but it's a big downgrade. 19 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: So is the slowdown reflected anywhere else? 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: No? In fact, from a consumer confidence perspective on vehicle sales, 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: it is. But in terms of tourism and people actually 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: traveling and wanting to rent our products, all other markets 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: are actually up and probably realistically experiencing some benefit from 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: that USA situation. So people still want to travel, but 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: I'll go somewhere else. Yeah. 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say that it's not that 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: people aren't traveling, it's as they're choosing to go somewhere else. 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, So Canada is probably the greatest beneficiary out 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: of that. You know, similar time frame, similar flight costs, 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: so forth, and so on. So luckily we've got the 31 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: business there in Canada that can get some benefit from it. 32 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: So, Grant, how has the company reacted to this? As 33 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: you mentioned, you know, you've been through this before. We've 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: had the GFC and COVID and things. 35 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so look, the key thing for us is because 36 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: that vehicle sales under is down, we basically have to 37 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: adjust what we buy to replenish the fleet. So we've 38 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: already got that stock there. We're going to make sure 39 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: that we manage that well, manage our balance, you well, 40 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: which is in a good position. So really it's about 41 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: pulling back on investment. And you know, we're one company, 42 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 2: one very small company in the USA terms, and we're 43 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: pulling back our USA fleet investments significantly. So when you 44 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: talk about possible recessions in the US and you think 45 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 2: about that as one more example, it has to be 46 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: being felt more broadly across the economy now. 47 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: But grant, you're not going backwards a You're more just 48 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: making moves to sort of stay steady. 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: And yeah, around the rest of the world will continue 50 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: to grow, but in the USA, when you're down forty 51 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: to fifty percent at the moment in bookings, it doesn't 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: mean that's where we'll end up, because domestic is picking 53 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: up a bit as well. But you definitely have to 54 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: reduce your total fleet size and tighten it up. So, yes, 55 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: the net investment in capital that we have in the 56 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: US will go down in the next twelve months as 57 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: as a result of this situation. 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: How long until you're expecting things to pick up again? 59 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: All that is, that is a crystal ball that it is, 60 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: so you just. 61 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: Worrying about, right, just worrying about today. 62 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 2: No, to be to be fair, we are running scenarios 63 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: and I guess again a little bit like COVID, but 64 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: but not. It's a very very different situation. But we 65 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: are running scenarios for the for the medium and long 66 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: term from a Canada perspective where we're getting impacted by 67 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: the tariffs because all our vehicles are purchased in the US. 68 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: We have processes there where the industry is looking to 69 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: apply for an exemption to the tariffs, so forth and 70 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: so on. So we've really got a number of things 71 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: to play out yet. 72 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: Grant Webster, thank you so much for your time this morning. 73 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: Appreciated for more. 74 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: From early edition with Ryan Bridge. 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