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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southby's international realty unparalleled reach

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Speaker 1: and results.

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Speaker 2: I'm huddle with me.

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Speaker 3: This even got Trish Shurson, Sheherson willis pr and Richard

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Speaker 3: Hill's Auckland councilor.

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Speaker 2: Hello you too, Cureder.

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Speaker 4: Hello.

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Speaker 3: What do we Trish do about Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's up to Joe Biden. That's the Democrats problem,

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Speaker 4: isn't it. He has to make the call about giving

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Speaker 4: up his run for president, and from all accounts, he

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Speaker 4: is very stubborn and it's unlikely that he will do

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Speaker 4: that easily. We sat around on Saturday with a group

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Speaker 4: of people watching the debate, and I have to say

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Speaker 4: as a debate went on, the group got quieter and quieter,

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Speaker 4: and I think for two reasons. One is that it's

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Speaker 4: not just worrying for the United States that there is

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Speaker 4: such an unedifying race for president between a confused octagenarian

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Speaker 4: versus a liar and a convicted felon, but also what

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Speaker 4: that means for the world. And there was a great

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Speaker 4: line in that debate actually that not only are the

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Speaker 4: US's allies, but the enemies are watching that debate. Ye,

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Speaker 4: and you would have to say that the US is

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Speaker 4: in a very difficult place. I think Democrats after the debate,

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Speaker 4: they're now breaking the emergency glass and seeing, you know,

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Speaker 4: is there any way that they can get another candidate up.

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Speaker 4: But you know, if you think you had, you had

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump in that debate saying that the world is

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Speaker 4: closer to World War three than anyone knows. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's just so frightening.

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Speaker 2: And true, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Richard, Do you think Biden can win?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know. I didn't watch the debate because

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Speaker 2: I knew it was going to be terrible. It's getting

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Speaker 2: to the point where it's going to be weekend at

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Speaker 2: Bernie's for the next debate, and they just roll him in,

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Speaker 2: you know, like it is really terrible dead body. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well it's like not hopefully not dead, but you know,

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Speaker 2: it did feel like people are having to, you know,

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Speaker 2: take him off the stage, bring him on, and you

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Speaker 2: could tell he couldn't cope with what was going on.

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Speaker 2: And that is he's got the last four years if

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Speaker 2: he does win, and he's got to be making the

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Speaker 2: most important significant decisions for the country. And you've got,

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Speaker 2: as Trish says, someone that is absolutely deranged. On the

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Speaker 2: other side who is dangerous. So I mean, if you're

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Speaker 2: just heard someone say, oh, if they're electing an administration,

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Speaker 2: like the people around Joe will do and that's correct,

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Speaker 2: that it will be at least a coherent group of

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Speaker 2: people around him. But that's not what you're actually electing.

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Speaker 2: You're electing a resident. And it is scary, it is sad,

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Speaker 2: and it is worrying. You know. Yes, there was the

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Speaker 2: speech the next day that I was like, oh, there

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Speaker 2: he goes again. But if someone cannot string a sentence

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Speaker 2: together or really know what he's talking about on the

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Speaker 2: first debate at the beginning of a campaign, which is

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Speaker 2: going to be really tiring next to someone who's just

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Speaker 2: lies and yeah, I'm worried for America and and us again,

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Speaker 2: Like it's just exhausting the last ten years watching.

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Speaker 3: Do you think trist that he can win.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he can. I mean, the biggest issue

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Speaker 4: that Democratic voters have had with Biden is his age.

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Speaker 4: That's really his itchilles here. And also voters who have

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Speaker 4: left Trump, particularly women voters who have left Trump over

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Speaker 4: the over the abortion laws and the overturning of roe

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Speaker 4: versus Wade, they are very worried about Biden's age, and

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Speaker 4: I just don't think it's something that he can overcome.

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Speaker 4: The debate was disastrous for that. But the other issue

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Speaker 4: that it really shows up in US politics is it

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Speaker 4: has turned into a gerontocracy. If you think about the

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Speaker 4: number of quite elderly senior politicians, not just you know,

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Speaker 4: in the presidential race, but at the upper echelons. For

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Speaker 4: a country that should be sort of young and fresh

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Speaker 4: and energetic, their politics tells a totally different story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah too, right, three hundred and twenty million people and

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Speaker 2: they've got those two candidates. It's pretty sad.

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Speaker 3: It is quite bizarre, isn't it. Have you had a

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Speaker 3: look at the government's forty forty point plan for the next.

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Speaker 2: Quarter, Yes, what's your favorite one? I think the twenty

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Speaker 2: mean some of the cabinet decisions. Take cabinet decisions, yes,

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Speaker 2: I mean, will they start saying, you know, we will,

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Speaker 2: get it. It's kind of good to have a plan,

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Speaker 2: but all government should. It is a bit like listing

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Speaker 2: things that, yes, you should be doing these things. Take

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Speaker 2: a thing to cabinet. I think the worst. Oh, I

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Speaker 2: can't find it. One of it was so like, introduce

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Speaker 2: a business case to get the business.

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Speaker 3: You have a look for that. Trish Well, I sort

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Speaker 3: of feel like the novelty. I mean, I think it's

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Speaker 3: a great strategy, but the novelty is wearing off a

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Speaker 3: weebit isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It might do.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think again that the you know, this

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Speaker 4: is just my guess, but it feels like one of

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Speaker 4: the drivers of this government doing it is because it's

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Speaker 4: a it's a great juxtaposition against the last segment, which

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Speaker 4: there wasn't a plan, there weren't any measures, and they

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Speaker 4: just seem to muddle through and come up up with

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Speaker 4: random press releases and headlines all the time. And probably

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Speaker 4: for someone like Lux and you know, there's that great

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Speaker 4: old rule in business, if you don't measure it, you

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Speaker 4: can't manage it. And despite you know, what you might

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Speaker 4: say about the merit of what's in the list. This

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Speaker 4: also gives them a roadmap for their comms for each quarter,

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Speaker 4: so that they can have real clarity and each of

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Speaker 4: those see here those focus for the key cabinet ministers,

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Speaker 4: and again it keeps those key cabinet ministers on their

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Speaker 4: toes because even saying I've got it, you know, taking

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Speaker 4: these papers to cabinet, well, that means the ministers responsible

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Speaker 4: have to get their stuff together. They get those papers

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Speaker 4: into cabinet and keep progress moving.

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Speaker 2: Yes, did you find it, Richard? Yeah, it was take

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Speaker 2: cabinet decisions on the program business case, including costs benefit

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Speaker 2: analysis for a proposed third medical school at Wycott or unicorns.

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Speaker 3: Which doesn't mean we're going to get the finals, but

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Speaker 3: we're going to take some decisions. But that's all right,

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Speaker 3: the decisions at the stage where it will come back

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Speaker 3: to these two.

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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty on paralleled

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Speaker 3: Back on the Huddle with Me got Tresherson and Richard

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Speaker 3: Hill's Richard, sounds like Andrew McKenzie was told to quit,

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Speaker 3: willn't he?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it does sound like from that interview. I mean

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Speaker 2: he's been there over eight years. It's a pretty long

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Speaker 2: time for CEO, and if they are doing wholesale change,

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Speaker 2: it's pretty hard to keep someone at the top to

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Speaker 2: do the same job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was necessary, wasn't a trish because this

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Speaker 3: place has just got such a bad reputation. They needed

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Speaker 3: to complete clean Now.

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Speaker 4: I agree, and you know, smart move by the government

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Speaker 4: putting in Simon Motor. He's a class act and this

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Speaker 4: is his first sort of public service role. I think

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Speaker 4: he will do it very well. But you know, as

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Speaker 4: I've read today, I understand it, you know, because of

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Speaker 4: the wholesale changes at crying order to try and get

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Speaker 4: it under control, his role had been completely changed from

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Speaker 4: what he signed up to. So I think it, you know,

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Speaker 4: it was probably inevitable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, what do we do about the GPS. There

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Speaker 3: isn't enough money Richard to actually fund them through Health

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. Health New Zealand hasn't got enough money. So

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Speaker 3: if we want to save these things, the only way

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Speaker 3: I can see that we can do that is if

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Speaker 3: they charge us more. Would you be okay with that?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the whole thing, and that's the vibe with

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Speaker 2: tax cuts again, like fifteen billion dollars for tax cuts,

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Speaker 2: but prescriptions have gone up, everything's going to go up

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Speaker 2: this I think the proposal is that for GPS to

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Speaker 2: get more, they have to charge customers about I mean

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Speaker 2: patients another seven or eight percent extra. So it's just

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Speaker 2: that twenty dollars you've got in your pockets just coming

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Speaker 2: back in another way. And every government does it. They'll

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Speaker 2: label now complain about them not paying GPS enough. You

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Speaker 2: remember National last term were saying these that same thing.

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Speaker 2: They just do it the same that underfunding health. All

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Speaker 2: governments keep underfunding health and it is not a good

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Speaker 2: long term outcompany, not at all.

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Speaker 3: What's the solution, treasure, But we can't get these people

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Speaker 3: have been complaining about it for six or seven years.

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Speaker 3: They obviously need money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean I would urge this government and

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Speaker 4: as rich as every government, to really prioritize GPS. Don't

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Speaker 4: forget this kind of primary healthcare, particularly in rural communities,

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Speaker 4: is really the barrier that protects the whole health system

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Speaker 4: from collapsing. And in fact, right now we've got people

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Speaker 4: in small rural communities that I know of, they are

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Speaker 4: waiting up to eight weeks to get a GP appointment.

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Speaker 4: So imagine what that does for a kid with recurring

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Speaker 4: tonsilitis in the winter, a person who maybe not diagnosed

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Speaker 4: for cancer, or an elderly person with a heart condition

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Speaker 4: who goes eight weeks before they even get to see

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Speaker 4: the GP. It's just dangerous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally what.

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Speaker 2: We're you going to say no. It's the same thing.

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Speaker 2: We'll end up having to helicopter that person out when

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Speaker 2: they get to the keep stage.

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Speaker 3: If you don't put the money in front, you have

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Speaker 3: to pay heaps more towards the end, right, and they're dying. Yeah, guys,

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Speaker 3: thank you so much, really good points. I really appreciate it. It's

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Speaker 3: Tris Sherson of Sheerson Willis PR and Richard Hill's Auckland counselor.

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