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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Unparalleled Reach and.

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Speaker 2: Results, Huddler's This Evening, Phill o' riley for min Duke

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Speaker 2: Partners and former CEO of Business New Zealand and Mike Munroe,

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Speaker 2: the former chief of Staff Forward Decindra Ardu and keld Acordawa.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Jack, Micha, let's start with you. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you're a big tenacious defan. I'm surprised

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Speaker 2: there are still tenacious defans out there, but apparently there are.

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Speaker 2: Did they make the right call in canceling the tour?

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Speaker 3: I think they did, Jack, then he You know, the

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Speaker 3: thing is that there's there's different kinds of jokes. There's

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Speaker 3: jokes which are light harder and you and funny, and

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Speaker 3: the other jokes which are which are sick and mister

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Speaker 3: point entirely, I think that this this one falls into

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Speaker 3: the into the latter category. You know, you might recall

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Speaker 3: that when Ronald Raygan survived an assassin's bought up many

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Speaker 3: years ago out of the Immortal line, Honey, I forgot

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Speaker 3: to duck, and that was sort of funny. It wasn't original,

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Speaker 3: but it was funny and he was, he was the victim,

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Speaker 3: so I suppose he he can make jokes about it.

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Speaker 3: But in this case, you've basically got a joke where

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Speaker 3: a guy is saying that he wished Trump had been

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Speaker 3: had been shot dead. And you know, and Jack Black

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Speaker 3: in his band, as I understand, are an American band,

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Speaker 3: they have to live in the country, and and I

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Speaker 3: just think they made the right decision, and they made

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Speaker 3: it all accounts immediately that that that that you know,

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Speaker 3: this too could not go a.

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Speaker 2: Yet they certainly acted swiftly. I don't know, fell I'm

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Speaker 2: just I'm surprised to find myself for being the anti

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Speaker 2: cancel culture guy. But I just I think it was

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Speaker 2: a terrible joke. I think it was an awful thing

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Speaker 2: to say. I don't think it was funny for a moment.

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Speaker 2: I think they should apologize. But then it's just like ah, man,

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Speaker 2: the entire tours immediately called off. The band might never

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Speaker 2: perform again, they might never write music, you know, being

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Speaker 2: a being too unfair.

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Speaker 4: Yeh check. I think it goes to the class of

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Speaker 4: Jack Black himself. Actually, he's clearly the impression I've got

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Speaker 4: and a very good musician. I'm sure people seem to

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Speaker 4: him as music, but I'm sure he is and he's

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Speaker 4: but he's also very straight up guys, very you know,

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Speaker 4: he's very clear about his own morality and so on.

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Speaker 4: And I think it was in character of him to

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Speaker 4: do that, actually, because others might have said, wow, you

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Speaker 4: know it wasn't what wasn't you know it was an accident,

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Speaker 4: We'll just carry on and make the next million, And

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Speaker 4: he said, no, we're not going to do that if

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Speaker 4: you went to cancel. And I think Mike's right the

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Speaker 4: problem they've got if they kept on it. But it's

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Speaker 4: a terrible thing to say, by the lay and it's

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Speaker 4: he called it hates beach and it's terrible. There's no

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Speaker 4: excuse for it. But the but the challenge they've got

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Speaker 4: on practical terms is your is your expert just hit

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Speaker 4: a minute ago. Now every concert they turn up to

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Speaker 4: will be about that, and it's just hopeless. You can't

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Speaker 4: make music and entertain people and have with a fun

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Speaker 4: if it's all going to be about that. So I

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Speaker 4: think they're right to cancel it, take a pause and

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Speaker 4: really think about how they re emerge now. And of

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Speaker 4: course they'll be, they'll be gutted about it, and so

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Speaker 4: they should be. It was a terrible it was a terrible,

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Speaker 4: silly mistake to make.

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Speaker 2: So the CPI is at three point three ASB now

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Speaker 2: saying we'll see fifty basis points carved off the ocr

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Speaker 4: Well, oh, I'm not sure about fifty, but I do

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Speaker 4: think I do think there's a good chance now that

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Speaker 4: the real economy, so inflation three point three, yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: insurances and stuff. I'm in recount rights here and running

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Speaker 2: I've trained myself into it has been incredibly pessimistic about

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Speaker 2: the over the last couple of years. Mike Nichola Willis

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Speaker 2: there's any government, would trying to take as much credit

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think governments will always claim the credit

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Speaker 3: The key thing is that people still feel like they're

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Speaker 3: getting stung by rising prices all the time, whether the

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Speaker 3: mortgage rates and housing costs are still very real. Shawl

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Speaker 3: of Aserve Bank might move later on share to do that,

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Speaker 3: but right now we're immersed in a winter of discontent.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't look like getting brighter anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike Munroe, phil O'Reilly our Huddler's this evening.

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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty Unparalleled reach

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Speaker 1: and Results.

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Speaker 2: You're back with Phil o'reiley and Mike Munroe. So the

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Speaker 2: police are changing their eligibility criteria for new recruits. You

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Speaker 2: will no longer have to have your full driver's license

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Speaker 2: become a police recruit. You will, however, have to have

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Speaker 2: the full license to be sworn in as an officer.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Phil, do you think you know, if

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Speaker 2: you haven't got the gumption to get up and get

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Speaker 2: your full should you really be a police officer?

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Speaker 4: I must say probably driving on a restricted license, I'd

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Speaker 4: be better than have to drive us on the road,

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Speaker 4: especially as I drive around the place. Oh look, look,

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Speaker 4: this is about the police really trying to reach in

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Speaker 4: and widen out the pool. Of course, it used to

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Speaker 4: now you don't have to do that. You know, there's

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Speaker 4: a bunch of things that they're doing to try and

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Speaker 4: widen out their criteria. It is It isn't the margins,

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Speaker 4: I must say. But of course the police are going

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Speaker 4: through specific driver training anyway. They don't just get their license.

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Speaker 4: They've got to go through all sorts of other stuff

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Speaker 4: demonstrate just how hard the police are trying to get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've actually changed my view on this, or

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Speaker 2: at the very least I'm open to changing my view.

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Speaker 2: Make so we've got to text saying Jack, normally your

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Speaker 2: instincts are spot on, thanks, ma'am. Now, the number of

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Speaker 2: kids at a where I'm a foundation trustee who can't

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Speaker 2: afford their licenses astonishing, And a good portion of our

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Speaker 2: why would I pay another couple of hundred bucks and

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Speaker 2: wait for however many months to get you know, to

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The important thing here is that they can only

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Speaker 3: start their training as a police officer when they've got

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Speaker 3: their full license. Yeah, and you know, the police are

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Speaker 3: we've been hearing all sorts of numbers bandies about in

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Speaker 3: So there's a real problem there. And as the cops

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Speaker 3: their training in that. It's the critical thing, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, we've got the first little bit of information about

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Speaker 2: how these boot camps are going to be run for

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Speaker 2: serious youth defenders in New Zealand. I'm just going to

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Speaker 4: A film, Well, maybe maybe you can talk to the

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Speaker 4: army about that maybe they do all that these days.

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Speaker 4: But no, you're right. I think the old boot camp

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Speaker 4: And they were brilliant what they were. This kid's got

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Speaker 4: got out of bed billy in the morning, you know,

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Speaker 4: Precisely. It looks like the government's trying to do something

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Speaker 4: New Zealand. Yeah, so the paypeck is pretty good if

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Speaker 4: it works. And I think I think we should all

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Speaker 4: Let's make sure that they do get the right support,

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Speaker 4: because the upsides to it are massive if you can

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Speaker 4: these the kids we're talking about here are not kids

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Speaker 4: you've stolen the car. These are some of the hardest

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Speaker 4: they will actually end up in jail without this kind

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Speaker 4: prepared to invis quite a bit to keep them out

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Speaker 2: Because that's it. Yeah, I mean they could be they

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Speaker 2: next fifty years for all we know.

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Speaker 3: What do you think might Yeah, we'll look at this

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Speaker 3: approach is out data that it's failed, and the nets

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Speaker 3: have tried it already in the last twenty years. They

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Speaker 2: Okay, thanks so much for your time, guys, really appreciate it. Fillo, Riley,

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Speaker 2: Mike Munroe, Huddle this evening.

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