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Speaker 2: Hello, Great New Zealands, and welcome to Matton Tyler Afternoons

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Speaker 2: Full Show Pod number one two three. Had a great

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Speaker 2: chat today. We finally got round to the sixiness of

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Speaker 2: Bridge and we really laid into those plant based meats.

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Speaker 2: I feel a bit bad, actually, we really put the

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Speaker 2: veat I didn't want. I didn't mean to put the

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Speaker 2: boot into vegetarians as much as I did. I am

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Speaker 2: problem with vegetarians. My mum was a vegetarian. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: I do have a problem with things that aren't meat

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Speaker 2: calling themselves meat. Just them just call it what you.

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Speaker 3: Want to call it a lot more anger than I expect.

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Speaker 2: Not just call what it is. It's a lintal roast,

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Speaker 2: it's not a meat load. Don't be a liar. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there you go.

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Speaker 3: We also had a bit of chat about renting, visus owning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no thought I thought it was good. And look

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Speaker 2: I derided you Tyler. You did about your topic. You

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Speaker 2: want to talk about love and Bridge, But I got

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Speaker 2: to say it ended up being my favorite hour. Next

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Speaker 2: getting into the show, exactly there you go.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk.

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Speaker 3: ZB, Good afternoon, welcome to the show. Tune your Mike gone, Tyler.

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Speaker 3: That's a good way to start when you're on radio.

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Speaker 3: I hope you're doing well. Where have you listening in

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Speaker 3: the country? Get a Matt, get a Tyler?

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Speaker 2: Gooday everyone, thanks for tuning in you great New Zealanders. Hey,

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Speaker 2: this is very exciting TG sport and News Talk ZB

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Speaker 2: welcomes rixham AFC heading down under very soon. What a

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Speaker 2: fantastic TV show that is and one great club. Rixam

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Speaker 2: AFC takes on Wellington phoenixic Sky Stadium on the nineteenth

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Speaker 2: of July, so that's that's really soon. The tickets go

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Speaker 2: on sale this Friday, that's the sixteenth to May from

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Speaker 3: That'd be huge.

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Speaker 2: Mac from Always Sunny in Philadelphia, you want to he'll

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Speaker 2: be down here, Ryan Reynolds.

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Speaker 3: He'll definitely be here.

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Speaker 2: That'll be such a fantastic event. So yeah, tickets go

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Speaker 2: on sale this Friday. Get in quickly, yep, get in

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Speaker 2: early because I'll sell out very fast.

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Speaker 3: And there was something else that you wanted to just

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Speaker 3: get off your chairs, was her mat.

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Speaker 2: I was talking to you about this off Hea Tyland.

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Speaker 2: But as often our chats over a coffee, you then

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Speaker 2: put me on the spot on here.

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Speaker 3: I just like to bring our listeners and all of

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Speaker 3: New Zealand into this situation because you know they've got

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Speaker 3: a lot of experience combined experience.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So how much patting of the dog should there

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Speaker 2: be compared to padding of the partner? So I think

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Speaker 2: that my dog gets too much attention from my partner

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Speaker 2: compared to the amount of attention I get. I think

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Speaker 2: when we wake up in the morning and the dogs

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Speaker 2: jumped up on the bed and there's tickling and padding

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Speaker 2: and scrunching of the ears going on for the.

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Speaker 3: Dog, you want some of that action as well, least equal,

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Speaker 3: at least equal, at least pat parity. So I want

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Speaker 3: myne ears scrunched as much I'm ideally more than the dog. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I think there's just a problem in society where

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Speaker 3: the dogs are getting more attention than the partners. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's amanding pit parity. That is a nice, nice slogan

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Speaker 3: to put on a bumper stick.

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Speaker 2: I want my belly scratched at least as much as

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Speaker 2: my dog's getting its belly scratched.

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Speaker 3: I think in the morning, straight to the dog, and

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Speaker 3: the dog gets at least eighty percent more than the human.

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Speaker 3: When you get home from work, straight to the dog

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Speaker 3: and the dog gets fifty percent more than the human

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Speaker 3: in that scenario, unless there's something that's happened in the

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Speaker 3: human's life that you need to console them first, and

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Speaker 3: then you console them just for a little bit, and

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Speaker 3: then straight to the dog, because you know the dog

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Speaker 3: is going to give you a glowing reception, whereas the

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Speaker 3: human could go either way, could go fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 2: Tyler, I will deliver a very glowing reception.

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Speaker 3: You do love to be paid, You too, love to

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Speaker 3: be pet I'll glow, yeah, absolutely well two pat parent, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: love to hear from you. Right on to today's show,

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Speaker 3: and we do have a big show for you today

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Speaker 3: after three o'clock Bridge. It is getting a bit of

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Speaker 3: a revival. This is the card game. It is by

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Speaker 3: all accounts quite a complex card game. You have to

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Speaker 3: people turning up to the bridge club playing some bridge

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Speaker 3: and fine in love?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean is that a real thing? Has bridge

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Speaker 2: the place to find love? And you know, are there

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Speaker 2: young people playing bridge?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Because generally speaking bridge? Right, well, you know what is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, under thirty would be young to play bridge.

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Speaker 2: Because because historically people start playing bridge in their fifties, right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they turn fifteen, they start playing bridge. Yeah, right, you

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Speaker 2: have to be smart to play bridge, you do. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and so that sort of rules me out from playing

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Speaker 2: it and unfortunately yeah, but yeah, I mean, if you

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Speaker 2: are hooking up, you know, because you're not out of

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Speaker 2: touch toes under the table because that'd be signaling to

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Speaker 2: your partner, so you can't be paying for so yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, if you're playing foot see, it would have

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Speaker 2: to just be playing footsa in an amorous way, not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what is it about bridge that get you a

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Speaker 3: Bridge Club? That is after three o'clock up after one o'clock,

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Speaker 3: we want to have a chat about renting versus owning.

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Speaker 3: So an interesting story in the Herald today. Renters in

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Speaker 3: many parts of the country are in prime position as

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Speaker 3: the number of rental listings they have to choose from

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Speaker 3: Richard's record levels. So that seens some landlords try and

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Speaker 3: up the offer to get tenants into their properties, and

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Speaker 3: they're offering all sorts of things, including discounts on the

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Speaker 3: offering visa cards to tenants to pop in a couple

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Speaker 3: That is an interesting position for landlords to be in.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it funny because we think there's a big disaster

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Speaker 2: isn't it? So at one point there's no how as

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Speaker 3: Just flips the housing crisis, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we were freaking out about it, and then

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Speaker 2: is it changes that the government have made that are

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Speaker 2: allowing rents and moving the market. Well, what is it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but what do you think Because you're

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Speaker 3: Well renting, And this is the question one will put

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Speaker 3: to you, renting versus zoning, and the current point in time,

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Speaker 3: I've got to say renting has a lot of benefits

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Speaker 3: you don't have to worry about the insurance side of things,

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Speaker 3: you don't have to worry about rates. We're still doing

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Speaker 3: all of those things in our property down at gross Ditch.

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Speaker 3: But if you were just solely renting, that is a

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Speaker 3: heck of a lot of benefits for people at the moment.

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Speaker 3: They don't have to worry about those extra costs. Right

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Speaker 3: what are you giggling about here?

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Speaker 2: There's about a thousand techs to come through on my

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Speaker 2: pat parody. Oh yes, push with your partner this text

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Speaker 2: that you said, next you'll be wanting to pick up

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Speaker 2: your lip. You're next, you'll be wanting her to pick

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Speaker 2: up your leavings.

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Speaker 3: Got good text, good tecks. But that is after two o'clock,

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Speaker 3: because right now, let's have a chat about plant based meats.

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Speaker 3: Is at the end of the road for the plant

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Speaker 3: based meats being supreme, It is the latest plant based

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Speaker 3: being scaled back and the products will not be available

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Speaker 3: past July. So Being Supreme had become a bit of

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Speaker 3: these fake meats or plant based meats, but it's not

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Speaker 3: the only one. There were, and there still is. They

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Speaker 3: still exist. The Impossible Meat Company, the Impossible Burger was

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Speaker 3: huge when it launched them. Beyond Meat was another big

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Speaker 3: one in the US, and these companies had a lot

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Speaker 3: of hype behind them. A lot of people, me included,

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Speaker 3: and turned out I was horribly wrong. That people just

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Speaker 3: want to eat meat, real meat.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not healthy, So that part of it's out.

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Speaker 2: These plant based meats aren't healthy. If you look at

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Speaker 2: the back of the package, it's got four thousand ingredients

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Speaker 2: and none of them seem healthy. So that so if

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Speaker 2: you're going to it for health reasons, I think people

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Speaker 2: have found out that's that's not not it. You know,

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Speaker 2: like maybe you could argue that vegetarianism for health reasons whatever.

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Speaker 2: If you're just punishing a broccoli all the time, healthy fine, lentils,

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Speaker 2: go for it. But when it's put together into these

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Speaker 2: plant based meats, they're not healthy. You know, whole foods

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Speaker 2: are healthy, and it doesn't taste like meat. So my

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Speaker 2: thoughts on this, And I make a fantastic lentil roast,

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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. I make a great lentil roast.

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Speaker 2: It's a Heath Family recipe and it is absolutely delicious,

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Speaker 2: and I'll put it on the plate on a Sunday

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Speaker 2: roast in the weekend. I mean there will also be

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Speaker 2: roast beef there as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Good, But I don't go calling it a meat loaf.

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Speaker 2: That's that's where we've got the problem.

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Speaker 3: That's underhanded.

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Speaker 2: You fine, make your petty, but call it a plant paddy,

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Speaker 2: don't call it. Don't start calling it meat. Name like

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Speaker 2: topics especially makes me angry when they're calling these, you know,

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Speaker 2: calling things milk that aren't milk, you know, at best,

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Speaker 2: their plant juice. So I think the whole things gets

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Speaker 2: a little bit dishonest. But I also think people have

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Speaker 2: a sort of a disgusted by it. So I don't

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Speaker 2: mind having a vegetarian sandwich. That's fine, yeah, but if

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Speaker 2: someone says that I'm having a Burger and it's got

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Speaker 2: a plant based meat patty. For some reason that disgusts me.

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Speaker 3: What about And I think Hell's Pizza still does this.

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Speaker 3: They call it the Beyond Meat Pizza, and I've tried it,

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Speaker 3: and I've got to say it's pretty close to the

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Speaker 3: real thing, but you can tell that it's not real meat.

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Speaker 2: And as I understand.

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Speaker 3: It, they do. They used to do quite a good trade.

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Speaker 3: I think it's fallen off quite considerably now. But when

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Speaker 3: you look at that style, and clearly there was a

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Speaker 3: market for Hell's Pizza to put that on their menu,

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Speaker 3: But you think now people have woken up to the

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Speaker 3: fact that why the hell am I eating fake meat?

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Speaker 3: If I want meat, I'll just eat meat. If I

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Speaker 3: want to go vegetarian, I'll just eat veggies. I don't

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Speaker 3: need this Frankenstein mesh up, yeah, to try and get

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. We're talking about plant based

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Speaker 2: Yeah noo. If you're a vegetarian, then you want to

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Speaker 2: As I said before, I make a lental roast, I

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Speaker 5: Ah, jeez, guys, great topic. The thing is it's not meat.

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Speaker 6: Whatever.

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Speaker 5: You take your mouthful of it, it tastes like either

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Speaker 2: Well, I've got annoyed in the office before when I've

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Speaker 2: You're so excited you've skipped out there, and then you

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your call.

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Speaker 2: I'm vegan. I cooked meat for my family, but I

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Speaker 2: If you want to be vegan, eat tafu. That pretend

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Speaker 3: It is a very good point.

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Speaker 2: There's also a judgmental nature to it as well. It's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's definitely what they were going for. But just

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Speaker 2: Just have your own lane. Just you're making your thing.

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Speaker 2: It's fine. People are allowed to be vegetarians, allowed to

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Speaker 8: But we also don't offer all the balls and whistles

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you twenty six past one. If

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Speaker 2: Look at look at the back of this, this plant

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Speaker 9: I've got two jorders. They went through the vegan stage

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Speaker 2: absolutely nothing wrong with that. But yeah, Tofuo Burger, go

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Speaker 3: What about this text? This is to both you Ellen

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Speaker 3: neither are the petties you buy from the supermarket. They

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Speaker 3: have their place, yeah, a place. Yeah, he's good advice.

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Speaker 2: Ellen, Thank you so much for you call Ellen. I mean,

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Speaker 2: but also, look what about that situation at barbecues? Where

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Speaker 2: there's someone turning up with their parnishing plant based patties.

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Speaker 2: And then then you get sort of the segregation situation

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Speaker 2: on the barbecue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can you just separate my little veggie sausages from

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Speaker 3: the meat sausages.

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Speaker 2: And then someone says, look, boy, my veggie sausages tastes

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Speaker 2: good today. When they say that, you know that what's

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Speaker 2: happened is that there's been some fat leakage.

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Speaker 3: Onto the little bit of beef juice on their veggie sausages.

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Speaker 2: But you know, everyone, you know, go for it, go

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Speaker 2: for your life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But as I say, stolen valor pretending that they're meat,

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Speaker 2: they're not. They're a totally different thing. They're four thousand

449
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Speaker 2: different ingredients put together to try and imitate me.

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number of

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Speaker 3: all love to hear your thoughts on these plant based meets.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy, And we're talking about plant

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Speaker 3: based meat companies. There is another company that is closing

479
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Speaker 3: up shop. It is called Bean Supreme and it is

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Speaker 3: going to be removing its products from the shelf after July.

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Speaker 3: And it's not the only one. There is a real

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Speaker 3: decline in the sales of plant based meat alternatives around

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Speaker 3: the world. When they first launched, they had a heck

484
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Speaker 3: of a lot of height behind them and Possible Burger

485
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Speaker 3: was one they teamed up with in New Zealand for

486
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Speaker 3: a time. Beyond Meat was another that is still trading,

487
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Speaker 3: but it appears that consumers are turned against these.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Beyond Meat stock price dropped nearly eighty percent in

489
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Speaker 2: the last year. So there you go. What was that

490
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Speaker 2: text you were just reading out to me there, Tyler.

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Speaker 2: I thought this was a really interesting perspective on the world.

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Speaker 3: Hi, guys, all meat is plant based. Some of it

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Speaker 3: just comes from a meat processing plant.

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Speaker 2: So that's so true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever you're eating has eaten grass generally and processed.

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Speaker 3: Into meat as if he had It's a fine point,

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Speaker 3: but you.

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Speaker 2: Know, we're evolved to eat one of them and not

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Speaker 2: the other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very true.

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Speaker 2: So we're evolved to eat their produce of the beast,

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Speaker 2: that is a meat processing plant from from from grass

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Speaker 2: into meat. They do the hard work for it, but

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Speaker 2: not The thing was fifty eight thousand ingredients, many of

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Speaker 2: them with multiple numbers after them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you are someone who was veggie based, I

508
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Speaker 3: love to hear from you. E one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: ten eighty Have you ever given these plant based protein

510
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Speaker 3: options a crown? If you stayed away? Does it kind

511
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Speaker 3: of defeat the purpose? Because I know a lot of

512
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Speaker 3: people who go to a vegetarian diet. Some of them

513
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Speaker 3: do it for ethical concerns, but I think a lot

514
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Speaker 3: more do it for health reasons, which is fair enough.

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Speaker 3: And if you're doing it for health reasons, surely you'd

516
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Speaker 3: stay away from these products, right.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that the joke in the Vicar of Dibli which

518
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Speaker 2: she said not bacon, Bacon is not bacon.

519
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Speaker 3: That's a great joke.

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Speaker 2: If you're so worried about the ingredients and the plant

521
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Speaker 2: based meats, you should look at the ingredients of your

522
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Speaker 2: doritos or shapes. And people are worried about plant based

523
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Speaker 2: products yeah, but you see, no one's saying that doritos

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Speaker 2: and shapes are healthy for you. That's the thing. There's

525
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Speaker 2: the moral judgment that comes with these plant based meats

526
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Speaker 2: on top of top of it. So what we're saying

527
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Speaker 2: is just call them what they are. Don't say they're meat,

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Speaker 2: don't say they're not bacon bacon, don't say that they're

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Speaker 2: oat milk. You can't milk. You can't milk oat. So

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Speaker 2: that's not what it is.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't quite roll off.

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Speaker 2: Don't claim it is healthy when it's ultra processed. Okay, Mark,

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Speaker 2: you've got a shieft's PERSPECTI of on this key topic

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Speaker 2: for kiwis Yeah, I have.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you're going to say an am so I'm a

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Speaker 11: chef and these days when you're a chef, it's quite

537
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Speaker 11: a it's quite a nightmare because you know, you've got

538
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Speaker 11: a cater for all all taste and all needs today,

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Speaker 11: Like you know, we've got a cadi for vegetarian, which

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Speaker 11: is fine, there's vegan. Then you've got wheat and tolerant.

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Speaker 11: So you've got to have two vats when you cook

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Speaker 11: up that sort of meat. You've got koalak and now

543
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Speaker 11: these these plant based products are coming in. Look, there's

544
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Speaker 11: nothing wrong. I love tastes and they're actually not too bad,

545
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Speaker 11: but they still aren't meat. Now, I want to put

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Speaker 11: this question to you. So if we put it on

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Speaker 11: the other way around, if we had meat based veget vegetables,

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Speaker 11: how would that go? You know, because that's all that's

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Speaker 11: all I'm doing. They're calling a plant? Is the sorry

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Speaker 11: plant a meat product? Now if we went, let's hit

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Speaker 11: this meat for example, and call that a veggie product,

552
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Speaker 11: how would that go on the market? How would that

553
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Speaker 11: go on?

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Speaker 12: Well Mark?

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Speaker 2: For example? I was complaining before or than when I

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Speaker 2: get invited to something with sausage rolls and I dip

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Speaker 2: them in the sauce and then I find out that

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Speaker 2: they're vegan sausage rolls. You go and you and you

559
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Speaker 2: dip a carrot into some some sauce, and then someone says,

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Speaker 2: oh that carrot, that's actually a sausage carrot. It's actually

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Speaker 2: a beef carrot.

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Speaker 3: I could see a market beef carrots.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't think that'll ever happen because we're too

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Speaker 11: wake for that sort of stuff. So anyway, just to

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Speaker 11: bring that perspective to it.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Yeah, and for you as a chef. I mean,

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Speaker 3: as you mentioned the nutritional considerations you've got to have

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Speaker 3: as a chef. Now pretty full on is that across

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Speaker 3: the board? So vegetarian, veganism, you've got to worry about, dairy,

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Speaker 3: you got to worry about gluten, and I mean there

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Speaker 3: must be incredibly incredibly difficult to form a menu.

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Speaker 11: That is very difficult. I mean honestly its expanded me

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Speaker 11: in you for one thing, some things that already on

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Speaker 11: the man you might be classified as Gluten's a very

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Speaker 11: interesting one because we can't call it gluten free. You

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Speaker 11: have to call it gluten and top gluten tolerant because

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Speaker 11: or gluten are freely the words were used because you

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Speaker 11: can't guarantee that there's no gluten and that product even

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Speaker 11: if it doesn't have it on the label. For instance,

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Speaker 11: I'm intolerant some products out there, some products out there

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Speaker 11: that have gluten even where they don't have that on

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Speaker 11: their label.

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Speaker 2: For instance, I'm intolerant of some people's claims that they're

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Speaker 2: gluten intolerant. I think there's a lot of people claiming

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Speaker 2: that gluten intolerant that that aren't actually and the people

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Speaker 2: that actually are. What does it see the X disease

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00:27:37,293 --> 00:27:38,733
Speaker 2: or what it is? That what it is. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: know you actually put you put the wheat on their

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Speaker 2: arm and they get a rash. Yeah, there's people that

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Speaker 2: it's a serious, serious thing, and there's some other people

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Speaker 2: just going I just feel like I'm a bit tired

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Speaker 2: every now and then I'm gluten. Next thing, you know,

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Speaker 2: they're water boarding a chief about what's in the food.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I mean there's there's there's different degrees of

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Speaker 11: gluten gluten intolerance. Because you've got the ones that are

596
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Speaker 11: full gluten intolerant, they can't have any gluten whatsoever. And

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Speaker 11: then you've got what the ones that that that they

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Speaker 11: don't like gluten, but it's not that there for them,

599
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Speaker 11: but they just prefer not to have it. So then

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Speaker 11: that's the other sort of argument as well. I think

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Speaker 11: the reason well, you know, back in the day, you know,

602
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Speaker 11: farmers and when we had wholesome fruits total, we never

603
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Speaker 11: had in these allergies. These allergies are quite a new thing.

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Speaker 11: I think it's coming with the chemicals and additors we

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Speaker 11: put into our foods. So the process, all the processed

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Speaker 11: food that we are eating now has caused a lot

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Speaker 11: of these allergies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. I mean if you can eat whole foods,

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Speaker 2: then you know, everything says that life gets better in

610
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Speaker 2: terms of your gut. I own your health and you

611
00:28:45,693 --> 00:28:47,533
Speaker 2: don't put on you don't put on weight. I mean

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Speaker 2: people try not eat potatoes because they think it's going

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Speaker 2: to put on weight.

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Speaker 3: Potatoes, but chips crisps.

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Speaker 2: Will make you put on weight. But if you've just

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Speaker 2: got if you've just got some lovely cooked potatoes besides

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Speaker 2: your bit of meat and your broccoli, then you're going

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Speaker 2: to be sweet ass.

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Speaker 11: It's like, so your butter's and your full cream milks,

620
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Speaker 11: full cream milks is actually your body product can process

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Speaker 11: full cream or full milk easier than a can the

622
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Speaker 11: that is a half of two stroke ones because because

623
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Speaker 11: for some reason, your body can't process those lighter milks

624
00:29:23,213 --> 00:29:25,093
Speaker 11: as easy as it can the full milk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, And it's like butter, you know, don't have have

627
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Speaker 11: real butter. Just just reduce the amount that you have.

628
00:29:33,733 --> 00:29:38,013
Speaker 11: You know, margarines are no good for you, synthetic, so

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Speaker 11: just have real butter and just need a balanced diet

630
00:29:42,213 --> 00:29:45,453
Speaker 11: and you know, keep everything and ballance and you'll be fine.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The ingredients on the back of a bag of potatoes. Potatoes.

633
00:29:48,813 --> 00:29:52,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, potatoes, which is nice.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your call. I mean I like what

635
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Speaker 2: he said because I'm currently getting in a lot of

636
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Speaker 2: trouble at home for having cream in my coffee, because

637
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Speaker 2: I love cream in my coffee.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to go full noise cream. You know

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Speaker 3: what did he call it? Two stroked milk? Of like

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Speaker 3: that stroke milk? Get rid of it. One hundred eight

641
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Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Matt, the veggie food in India is divine. Flesh

643
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Speaker 2: starts rotting the minute is dead. She is ross. Yeah,

644
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Speaker 2: but that's that's the thing. I'm all down for vegetarian. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: It's a fantastic vegetarian Indian restaurant on K Road and

646
00:30:24,573 --> 00:30:27,733
Speaker 2: they can have amazing vegetarian dushes. Don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 2: My mum used to make some delicious vegetarian food. But

648
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Speaker 2: the thing is she never claimed that it was meat.

649
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Speaker 2: She never branded it with a meat brand. She just

650
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Speaker 2: said that he's a vegetarian. Here's a chickpeak, carry go

651
00:30:38,293 --> 00:30:38,533
Speaker 2: for it.

652
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Speaker 3: It's not the VEGETI eate, it's the liars.

653
00:30:40,493 --> 00:30:42,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a hypocrisy.

654
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Speaker 3: Seventeen to two. But can you get your thoughts on this?

655
00:30:44,853 --> 00:30:48,373
Speaker 3: And if you are a VEGGI only vegetables only love

656
00:30:48,413 --> 00:30:50,493
Speaker 3: to hear from you. Did you go near these products

657
00:30:50,533 --> 00:30:52,133
Speaker 3: or did it kind of defeat the purpose? Oh, eight

658
00:30:52,253 --> 00:30:54,173
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

659
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Speaker 4: Have a chat with the lads.

660
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Speaker 1: On eighty eighty Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used

661
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Speaker 1: talk Sai'd.

662
00:31:02,653 --> 00:31:06,693
Speaker 3: Be afternoon and we're talking about plant based protein options

663
00:31:06,733 --> 00:31:08,893
Speaker 3: or plant based meat. Another company has but in the

664
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Speaker 3: dust being supreme. It is going to be off the

665
00:31:12,573 --> 00:31:16,133
Speaker 3: shelves after July and production is being scaled back. But

666
00:31:16,293 --> 00:31:19,413
Speaker 3: if you are someone who is enjoyed these plant based

667
00:31:19,413 --> 00:31:23,133
Speaker 3: on tunaives, love to hear from you. On one eighty, Vinnie,

668
00:31:23,213 --> 00:31:24,933
Speaker 3: welcome to the show. You used to eat meat, but

669
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Speaker 3: you're a full veg now, Yes I am? And how's

670
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Speaker 3: that going? How long have you been a full vegetarian?

671
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Speaker 12: For Vinnie, more than two years now. I used to

672
00:31:35,013 --> 00:31:38,413
Speaker 12: eat meat, everything vegetarian now for two years?

673
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Speaker 2: What made you change?

674
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Speaker 12: All the products in the market, all the you know

675
00:31:43,533 --> 00:31:48,813
Speaker 12: the products though well of what it is vegetarian, lamb Riggerian, chickens.

676
00:31:49,253 --> 00:31:52,893
Speaker 12: It is not a meat, to be honest, that's so different.

677
00:31:53,293 --> 00:31:56,453
Speaker 2: Okay, So can I just go Vinnie? Can I just

678
00:31:56,453 --> 00:32:00,053
Speaker 2: go back step? So you were a vegetarian until too,

679
00:32:00,413 --> 00:32:03,773
Speaker 2: you became a vegetarian two years ago? Did you say, yeah,

680
00:32:03,813 --> 00:32:05,813
Speaker 2: two years ago? And that was that for health reasons?

681
00:32:05,893 --> 00:32:08,573
Speaker 2: Or was it for sort of moral reasons as you

682
00:32:08,613 --> 00:32:09,973
Speaker 2: don't didn't want to eat animals?

683
00:32:12,653 --> 00:32:14,213
Speaker 12: It was sort of like a health reason as well.

684
00:32:14,293 --> 00:32:17,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so and so in that in that time,

685
00:32:17,173 --> 00:32:19,813
Speaker 2: you've tried all these different plant based meats.

686
00:32:21,293 --> 00:32:23,213
Speaker 12: Try all of them, everything that's a little bit in

687
00:32:23,213 --> 00:32:24,053
Speaker 12: this markets, mate.

688
00:32:24,293 --> 00:32:26,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and and what are your thoughts?

689
00:32:28,173 --> 00:32:28,373
Speaker 13: Nah?

690
00:32:28,413 --> 00:32:32,653
Speaker 3: I would need them all day, it's pretty pretty certain.

691
00:32:33,133 --> 00:32:35,733
Speaker 2: So and so what didn't you What didn't you like

692
00:32:35,773 --> 00:32:39,013
Speaker 2: about them? That there's a thousand ingredients on the back

693
00:32:39,133 --> 00:32:40,893
Speaker 2: or they don't taste like meat, or what was it

694
00:32:40,933 --> 00:32:43,853
Speaker 2: to put you off them?

695
00:32:43,893 --> 00:32:45,973
Speaker 12: To be honest, like, it's it's not all full day,

696
00:32:46,053 --> 00:32:49,093
Speaker 12: it's it's not I reckon, it's not healthy. And you

697
00:32:49,173 --> 00:32:50,853
Speaker 12: read all them get into the back, it's two and

698
00:32:50,933 --> 00:32:53,253
Speaker 12: things and go on and making you confuse, you know,

699
00:32:53,893 --> 00:32:55,093
Speaker 12: is it going to be good for you or not?

700
00:32:55,773 --> 00:32:57,653
Speaker 2: So what do you eat as a vegetarian to get

701
00:32:57,653 --> 00:32:59,573
Speaker 2: your your protein and such.

702
00:33:01,373 --> 00:33:03,733
Speaker 12: We've got for lentils, we go for like heat the vegetable.

703
00:33:03,813 --> 00:33:06,973
Speaker 12: Then you know, go for like a normal plant based

704
00:33:07,493 --> 00:33:08,333
Speaker 12: proteins as well.

705
00:33:08,813 --> 00:33:12,173
Speaker 2: And you know I love, oh you like plant based

706
00:33:12,333 --> 00:33:13,213
Speaker 2: like protein powder.

707
00:33:15,293 --> 00:33:17,973
Speaker 12: Yeah, but I'm not like a vegan person, but you

708
00:33:18,093 --> 00:33:20,213
Speaker 12: pretty much all of that stuff. But having no issues

709
00:33:20,253 --> 00:33:20,773
Speaker 12: with that one.

710
00:33:20,933 --> 00:33:23,013
Speaker 2: And how are you going? How's your health? Is it

711
00:33:23,053 --> 00:33:24,453
Speaker 2: improved in the two years?

712
00:33:25,013 --> 00:33:28,773
Speaker 12: Uh, yeah, it's it's not too batter felt any changes,

713
00:33:28,813 --> 00:33:32,173
Speaker 12: to be honest, I'm it's it's not changes in my body.

714
00:33:32,213 --> 00:33:34,053
Speaker 12: I feel all right at the moment. People say, oh,

715
00:33:34,133 --> 00:33:37,773
Speaker 12: you've become a week when you become vegetarian and stuff,

716
00:33:38,733 --> 00:33:40,813
Speaker 12: it's the same words that I left every day. It

717
00:33:40,813 --> 00:33:41,733
Speaker 12: doesn't change anything.

718
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Speaker 3: And so why did you try to go for these

719
00:33:44,813 --> 00:33:47,693
Speaker 3: meat alternatives, Finny? Was it to you to you a

720
00:33:47,693 --> 00:33:49,733
Speaker 3: bit of a transition that you used to love meat.

721
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Speaker 3: You've gone to vegi's because you want to be a

722
00:33:51,293 --> 00:33:54,173
Speaker 3: bit healthier, maybe some ethical concerns, and you saw those

723
00:33:54,213 --> 00:33:55,533
Speaker 3: products as a bit of a transition.

724
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Speaker 12: Oh yeah, because my wife is full vegetarian. So they

725
00:34:00,973 --> 00:34:03,253
Speaker 12: oh yeah, honey, let's try it. This one, you know, yeah,

726
00:34:03,293 --> 00:34:05,573
Speaker 12: because you're vegistaring, I'll try that because it takes meat

727
00:34:05,613 --> 00:34:07,853
Speaker 12: on it. So like, okay, we tried it, we've didn't

728
00:34:07,853 --> 00:34:09,573
Speaker 12: like it. Both the was like that, I'm not going

729
00:34:09,652 --> 00:34:10,252
Speaker 12: to try them again.

730
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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for be cool, Vinnie. Hello, vegetarian. Yeah,

731
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Speaker 2: I respect it. Yeah, be a vegetarian. Go for your

732
00:34:17,773 --> 00:34:21,373
Speaker 2: life exactly. These plant based meats are.

733
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Speaker 3: Antelopes alive chrises this afternoon.

734
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Speaker 2: You've raised four veget children.

735
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Speaker 14: Hello, how are you good? Hey, I'm seventy two now,

736
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Speaker 14: I think probably forty plus years as vegetarian, raised my

737
00:34:39,613 --> 00:34:45,573
Speaker 14: four children or as vegetarians, and back in the day

738
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Speaker 14: as a very busy mum, you know, I would be

739
00:34:50,213 --> 00:34:55,733
Speaker 14: soaking soy beans and chip tees and mantles and doing

740
00:34:55,973 --> 00:35:00,853
Speaker 14: even making my own tofo on, making my own vegetarian cheese.

741
00:35:01,613 --> 00:35:07,013
Speaker 14: When these plant based products came on the market, even

742
00:35:07,333 --> 00:35:10,453
Speaker 14: my kids to question, well why are they called meat?

743
00:35:10,653 --> 00:35:14,252
Speaker 14: You know they're not meat. We're happy to be not meat.

744
00:35:14,773 --> 00:35:17,613
Speaker 14: I will say that only two of the four are

745
00:35:17,773 --> 00:35:22,053
Speaker 14: still vegetarians when the youngest is now thirty, so they're

746
00:35:22,333 --> 00:35:28,373
Speaker 14: they're adults. But they all eat a very strong vegetarian

747
00:35:28,453 --> 00:35:31,613
Speaker 14: diet anyway, they don't. Even the two that do eat

748
00:35:31,813 --> 00:35:35,933
Speaker 14: occasional meatal fish don't need a lot of it. But

749
00:35:36,093 --> 00:35:40,293
Speaker 14: what I found was, as a very very very busy parent,

750
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Speaker 14: as I'm sure you could imagine, with four kids going

751
00:35:42,933 --> 00:35:46,213
Speaker 14: through school on sport and fossage pizzils and this, that

752
00:35:46,413 --> 00:35:50,293
Speaker 14: and the other thing, when these products came onto the market,

753
00:35:50,333 --> 00:35:53,453
Speaker 14: it was a godsend, okay, because I could send the

754
00:35:53,573 --> 00:36:00,893
Speaker 14: kids to soccer sausage sizzle with respectable looking sausages, not

755
00:36:01,013 --> 00:36:05,772
Speaker 14: like my homemade nal or bean sausages. And it made

756
00:36:05,813 --> 00:36:08,653
Speaker 14: a big difference to them, you know, because they weren't

757
00:36:08,693 --> 00:36:12,973
Speaker 14: ridiculed and they weren't laughed at it, and it eventually

758
00:36:13,013 --> 00:36:17,973
Speaker 14: became very normal. So even when the kids come home

759
00:36:19,573 --> 00:36:22,853
Speaker 14: as adults, male, we will always make sure that we've

760
00:36:22,893 --> 00:36:26,053
Speaker 14: got something in the friend that can be tucked on

761
00:36:26,133 --> 00:36:31,333
Speaker 14: the barbecue. And it's a bit like you know, all

762
00:36:31,373 --> 00:36:35,093
Speaker 14: the non vegetarians I'm sure like to go and get

763
00:36:35,133 --> 00:36:38,813
Speaker 14: some takeaways from time to time, Well, there are takeaways,

764
00:36:38,853 --> 00:36:42,333
Speaker 14: and yeah, no they're not one hundred percent healthy, and

765
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Speaker 14: I wish they weren't branded as meat because I'd be

766
00:36:45,933 --> 00:36:49,413
Speaker 14: really happy they weren't branded as meat, just a plant

767
00:36:49,413 --> 00:36:54,253
Speaker 14: sausage convenience. He's a plant, it's convenience then yeah.

768
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And okay, So if you've got your your your

769
00:36:59,133 --> 00:37:01,933
Speaker 2: vegi sausage on a barbecue, does it need to be

770
00:37:01,973 --> 00:37:06,613
Speaker 2: segregated from the other sausages and so it can't be.

771
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Speaker 14: Depending on depending on how strong the vegetarian in the

772
00:37:12,533 --> 00:37:15,653
Speaker 14: family is at the time. That mostly yet we would

773
00:37:15,733 --> 00:37:17,093
Speaker 14: we would cook them separately.

774
00:37:17,453 --> 00:37:19,853
Speaker 2: Right do you think how do you think your kids

775
00:37:19,853 --> 00:37:22,853
Speaker 2: feel about being brought up vegetarian? Is it something that

776
00:37:22,933 --> 00:37:25,373
Speaker 2: they're they're happy with and proud of. Is it something

777
00:37:25,413 --> 00:37:27,133
Speaker 2: that they proud of it?

778
00:37:27,333 --> 00:37:30,253
Speaker 14: Yet they're proud of it, and they are always always

779
00:37:30,493 --> 00:37:34,973
Speaker 14: told that as they got older that you know, if

780
00:37:35,013 --> 00:37:37,373
Speaker 14: they wanted to make a choice and they didn't want

781
00:37:37,373 --> 00:37:41,573
Speaker 14: to be vegetarian, that was just fine. Like I used

782
00:37:41,613 --> 00:37:44,013
Speaker 14: to do when two of them decided they didn't want

783
00:37:44,053 --> 00:37:47,493
Speaker 14: to be vegetarian, I would cook them even though I

784
00:37:47,653 --> 00:37:51,093
Speaker 14: was still a vegetarian. I would I would cook them

785
00:37:51,293 --> 00:37:56,013
Speaker 14: what they wanted. Yeah, because I think food's really important.

786
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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for your call, Chris.

787
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Speaker 3: See what a great mum not militant about it that

788
00:38:01,453 --> 00:38:04,733
Speaker 3: she gave them vegetarian meals, which is fair enough, but

789
00:38:04,813 --> 00:38:06,533
Speaker 3: she said, hey, if you want to eat meat, you

790
00:38:06,573 --> 00:38:09,693
Speaker 3: can do that. That's a VIK scenario, right, don't just

791
00:38:09,733 --> 00:38:11,013
Speaker 3: don't be militant about it.

792
00:38:11,173 --> 00:38:13,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'd be smug. I wonder how often when she

793
00:38:13,813 --> 00:38:17,212
Speaker 2: wasn't around her kids were just smashing bacon.

794
00:38:17,333 --> 00:38:20,413
Speaker 3: Straight down to the Dold's hundred.

795
00:38:19,933 --> 00:38:22,773
Speaker 2: Sneaking out at night and having a puffing on some

796
00:38:22,813 --> 00:38:25,293
Speaker 2: bacon around the side of the school shed.

797
00:38:25,413 --> 00:38:27,493
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

798
00:38:27,533 --> 00:38:28,813
Speaker 3: call it. Seven to two.

799
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Speaker 4: Matdeath.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Adams taking your calls on Oh, eight hundred and

801
00:38:33,853 --> 00:38:37,172
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

802
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Speaker 1: News TALKSB.

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Speaker 3: News Talks EB. We've been discussing the decline of these

804
00:38:42,613 --> 00:38:46,053
Speaker 3: plant based meat companies. Been Supreme as the latest one,

805
00:38:46,053 --> 00:38:47,373
Speaker 3: and some great tickes have come through.

806
00:38:47,533 --> 00:38:49,893
Speaker 2: My wife was vegetarian for a year or so. I

807
00:38:49,933 --> 00:38:51,772
Speaker 2: told her I'm making a ship. It's pie with meat,

808
00:38:51,853 --> 00:38:55,133
Speaker 2: so you can't have any lull. I was so excited.

809
00:38:55,453 --> 00:38:58,533
Speaker 2: But the most expensive minths, which I didn't realize until

810
00:38:58,533 --> 00:39:01,013
Speaker 2: I started cooking it was grass based and not grass fed.

811
00:39:01,493 --> 00:39:05,093
Speaker 2: It was vegetarian. I threw the whole pie in the bin,

812
00:39:05,653 --> 00:39:08,172
Speaker 2: even though my wife didn't want it. Oh, come on.

813
00:39:09,493 --> 00:39:11,533
Speaker 3: And this one says, hey, guys, I gave up meat

814
00:39:11,573 --> 00:39:13,973
Speaker 3: about ten years ago when I found it caused severe

815
00:39:14,213 --> 00:39:16,133
Speaker 3: arthritic pain in my joints. A bit sad to see

816
00:39:16,133 --> 00:39:19,293
Speaker 3: the loss of chicken, no chicken and now being supreme

817
00:39:19,333 --> 00:39:19,933
Speaker 3: from Steve.

818
00:39:20,293 --> 00:39:22,893
Speaker 2: A texta says, how hard is all the little oats

819
00:39:22,893 --> 00:39:24,973
Speaker 2: to milk? Fake meat is so stupid?

820
00:39:25,053 --> 00:39:27,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they can't call it oat juice then they

821
00:39:27,093 --> 00:39:27,813
Speaker 3: know one would buy it.

822
00:39:27,893 --> 00:39:30,773
Speaker 2: So support anyone that wants to start any business and

823
00:39:30,813 --> 00:39:34,453
Speaker 2: sell plant based food. But if it's if it's a

824
00:39:34,493 --> 00:39:38,053
Speaker 2: plant sausage, call it a plant sausage. If it's veggie juice,

825
00:39:38,093 --> 00:39:39,013
Speaker 2: call it veggie juice.

826
00:39:39,093 --> 00:39:40,733
Speaker 3: Okay, yeap, And we're going to have a chat with

827
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Speaker 3: a dietician very very shortly to get to the bottom

828
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Speaker 3: of how unhealthy these products are. It is three minutes

829
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Speaker 3: to one uses next too.

830
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Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon, it's mad Heathen Taylor Adams

831
00:39:54,133 --> 00:39:55,933
Speaker 1: afternoons news talks.

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Speaker 6: It'd be.

833
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Speaker 3: News talks. It be welcome back into the program. Great

834
00:40:00,973 --> 00:40:03,093
Speaker 3: to have your company, and we had a great hour

835
00:40:03,373 --> 00:40:07,373
Speaker 3: on the decline of plant based meat companies. Being Supreme

836
00:40:07,493 --> 00:40:10,413
Speaker 3: is the latest one to close production and they'll be

837
00:40:10,453 --> 00:40:13,733
Speaker 3: taking their products off the shelf in July. But we

838
00:40:13,773 --> 00:40:17,293
Speaker 3: thought we'd have a chat to a registered diatrician, so

839
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Speaker 3: on the line right now with Julia Sokula, she has

840
00:40:20,573 --> 00:40:24,013
Speaker 3: head of nutrition at Beef and Lamb and also registered dietician,

841
00:40:24,093 --> 00:40:27,933
Speaker 3: to have a chat about these products. Very good afternoon, Julia, Hi, guys,

842
00:40:27,973 --> 00:40:31,053
Speaker 3: how are you very good? So what is the latest

843
00:40:31,293 --> 00:40:33,653
Speaker 3: on the healthiness of meat?

844
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Speaker 6: Well, I think red meat and any of the animal

845
00:40:37,013 --> 00:40:39,053
Speaker 6: source foods have a really good role to play in

846
00:40:39,493 --> 00:40:41,812
Speaker 6: terms of how people eat it and part of a healthy,

847
00:40:41,853 --> 00:40:44,692
Speaker 6: balanced diet. They're a really good source of nutrition, they

848
00:40:44,733 --> 00:40:47,453
Speaker 6: taste good, and they've got bi available nutrients that we

849
00:40:47,933 --> 00:40:48,493
Speaker 6: can absorb.

850
00:40:49,013 --> 00:40:52,853
Speaker 2: So where are we sitting on the healthiness of plant

851
00:40:52,853 --> 00:40:53,453
Speaker 2: based meat.

852
00:40:54,813 --> 00:40:57,013
Speaker 6: Well, plant based meats often have lots of things added

853
00:40:57,013 --> 00:41:00,733
Speaker 6: to them for edental salt and other things which naturally

854
00:41:00,813 --> 00:41:03,213
Speaker 6: occur in meat, so they've got added vitamins or minerals.

855
00:41:03,213 --> 00:41:05,493
Speaker 6: But we know that what's in our actual food, So

856
00:41:05,533 --> 00:41:08,053
Speaker 6: what grows on our land or on our land has

857
00:41:08,133 --> 00:41:11,933
Speaker 6: got really easily absorbed iron zinc, vitamin B twelve. We

858
00:41:11,973 --> 00:41:13,413
Speaker 6: don't need to add it into our food.

859
00:41:14,413 --> 00:41:18,053
Speaker 2: So, you know, as someone textsed in before that, you know,

860
00:41:18,453 --> 00:41:21,813
Speaker 2: meat is just plant based. It's just got a different

861
00:41:22,613 --> 00:41:27,293
Speaker 2: processing system as it goes through the animal. Why does

862
00:41:27,333 --> 00:41:30,853
Speaker 2: that processing system why is that better for us than

863
00:41:31,373 --> 00:41:34,493
Speaker 2: putting together all this stuff later?

864
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Speaker 6: Well, I guess what, you know, what animals can do

865
00:41:37,653 --> 00:41:40,933
Speaker 6: is they make use of something we can't. So we

866
00:41:40,973 --> 00:41:44,813
Speaker 6: can't digest grass as human beings. So the system of

867
00:41:44,853 --> 00:41:48,573
Speaker 6: a cow, you know, enables us to then down the track,

868
00:41:49,013 --> 00:41:52,653
Speaker 6: you know, consume something that we know from a every meal,

869
00:41:52,773 --> 00:41:54,812
Speaker 6: every mouthful that we have is a really good source

870
00:41:54,813 --> 00:41:58,652
Speaker 6: of nutrition. We're not having to add a little bit

871
00:41:58,653 --> 00:42:00,293
Speaker 6: of this, add a little bit of this, put it

872
00:42:00,333 --> 00:42:04,413
Speaker 6: all together in an industrial kind of manufacturing side of things.

873
00:42:04,893 --> 00:42:07,533
Speaker 6: You know, here in New Zealand, we are using the

874
00:42:07,653 --> 00:42:10,533
Speaker 6: land that we have to make something that otherwise wouldn't grow.

875
00:42:10,973 --> 00:42:12,893
Speaker 6: Some of the other foods that we you know, we

876
00:42:12,973 --> 00:42:13,853
Speaker 6: bring into the country.

877
00:42:14,653 --> 00:42:18,173
Speaker 3: So effectively, if someone wants to go vegetarian, Julia and

878
00:42:18,213 --> 00:42:20,172
Speaker 3: I know that you've talked about the benefits of meat there,

879
00:42:20,173 --> 00:42:22,213
Speaker 3: but if they want to go vegetarian, they should just

880
00:42:22,413 --> 00:42:27,093
Speaker 3: eat plain, old, regular growing crowned vegis rather than these

881
00:42:27,093 --> 00:42:27,813
Speaker 3: sort of products.

882
00:42:28,293 --> 00:42:28,493
Speaker 14: Yeah.

883
00:42:28,533 --> 00:42:30,613
Speaker 6: Well, and it's more than just beges. So one of

884
00:42:30,653 --> 00:42:33,333
Speaker 6: the big things about animals source foods is they're really

885
00:42:33,333 --> 00:42:35,973
Speaker 6: good source of protein. So when you're substituting that out,

886
00:42:35,973 --> 00:42:38,413
Speaker 6: and if you don't eat animal source foods, we need

887
00:42:38,453 --> 00:42:42,493
Speaker 6: to plant based proteins, so your legumes, your nuts, your seeds,

888
00:42:42,533 --> 00:42:44,293
Speaker 6: so the things that aren't going to give us those

889
00:42:44,293 --> 00:42:47,973
Speaker 6: other nutrients. And you know, for people, you know, most

890
00:42:48,013 --> 00:42:49,573
Speaker 6: of us eat a range of foods. We don't just

891
00:42:49,613 --> 00:42:52,253
Speaker 6: eat one food. So for you know, for me here

892
00:42:52,293 --> 00:42:54,533
Speaker 6: at beef and lamb, I eat a range of foods,

893
00:42:54,813 --> 00:42:57,813
Speaker 6: red meat, white meat, as well as plant based meat,

894
00:42:58,413 --> 00:43:01,732
Speaker 6: plant based alternatives, you know, legumes, et cetera. And that's

895
00:43:01,773 --> 00:43:04,293
Speaker 6: a really good way to get balanced fiber in everything

896
00:43:04,293 --> 00:43:05,133
Speaker 6: that our body needs.

897
00:43:05,813 --> 00:43:07,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess that's the problem that people

898
00:43:07,653 --> 00:43:10,093
Speaker 2: have been having on the on the text machine. People

899
00:43:10,093 --> 00:43:12,533
Speaker 2: don't have a problem with vegetarians, but they have a

900
00:43:12,573 --> 00:43:17,533
Speaker 2: problem with foods that aren't meat being described as meat.

901
00:43:18,013 --> 00:43:20,253
Speaker 2: Because that's fine, as I keep saying, I make a

902
00:43:20,293 --> 00:43:25,533
Speaker 2: lovely lentil roast, it's lovely, but I'll make you my

903
00:43:25,653 --> 00:43:26,212
Speaker 2: lentl roast.

904
00:43:27,733 --> 00:43:29,573
Speaker 3: We'll get your studios.

905
00:43:29,933 --> 00:43:31,692
Speaker 6: I did do that many years ago, and I did

906
00:43:31,773 --> 00:43:34,732
Speaker 6: pass it by my husband. But you can't beat an

907
00:43:34,733 --> 00:43:36,693
Speaker 6: actual you know, a lamb roast. You can't beat that.

908
00:43:37,093 --> 00:43:38,933
Speaker 6: They going back to what you guys were saying.

909
00:43:38,973 --> 00:43:43,133
Speaker 2: Absolutely, my point is it's called a lental roast, not

910
00:43:43,293 --> 00:43:44,453
Speaker 2: a meat.

911
00:43:44,373 --> 00:43:47,093
Speaker 15: Absolutely and from a nutrition perfective.

912
00:43:47,133 --> 00:43:49,853
Speaker 6: So as a dietician, my concern is that some of

913
00:43:49,853 --> 00:43:54,173
Speaker 6: these alternatives they don't give us the same nutrition side

914
00:43:54,173 --> 00:43:56,613
Speaker 6: of things, and they don't have that same profile. So

915
00:43:57,053 --> 00:43:59,692
Speaker 6: some things called themselves or people choose to call them

916
00:43:59,693 --> 00:44:01,293
Speaker 6: a milk, they're.

917
00:44:01,053 --> 00:44:01,533
Speaker 15: Not a milk.

918
00:44:01,573 --> 00:44:03,893
Speaker 6: They don't have the same amount o Milk's a classic

919
00:44:03,933 --> 00:44:06,853
Speaker 6: example the calcium, and that for most of them, unless

920
00:44:06,853 --> 00:44:10,333
Speaker 6: it's fortified, doesn't meet the need for for what we

921
00:44:10,373 --> 00:44:13,853
Speaker 6: need for women, for teenagers, and yet it's been drunk

922
00:44:14,053 --> 00:44:19,533
Speaker 6: in copious amounts. So the same goes for animal source chicken, beef, slam,

923
00:44:19,573 --> 00:44:22,853
Speaker 6: et cetera. Is we need those nutrients for our bodies

924
00:44:22,893 --> 00:44:26,973
Speaker 6: and particularly the groups and who have higher needs. You know,

925
00:44:27,053 --> 00:44:29,933
Speaker 6: our teams, our athletes, you know, we've got to fuel

926
00:44:29,973 --> 00:44:32,133
Speaker 6: them in a really good way. And my concern with

927
00:44:32,213 --> 00:44:35,493
Speaker 6: the products that call themselves a meat that are to

928
00:44:35,573 --> 00:44:38,853
Speaker 6: meat is we're not doing that justice and we're throwing

929
00:44:38,893 --> 00:44:41,453
Speaker 6: in other things that they don't need.

930
00:44:42,213 --> 00:44:45,613
Speaker 2: So it is an interesting kind of thing, though, isn't it,

931
00:44:45,653 --> 00:44:50,053
Speaker 2: Because when you've got meats, right, So there's and there's

932
00:44:50,053 --> 00:44:53,853
Speaker 2: a big whole whole foods revolution at the moment. Whole

933
00:44:53,853 --> 00:44:56,533
Speaker 2: foods are better, but some meats are better than others. Right.

934
00:44:56,613 --> 00:44:58,933
Speaker 2: So if you have just a lovely lamb roast like

935
00:44:58,973 --> 00:45:03,652
Speaker 2: you're talking before, that may be healthy, but bacon is

936
00:45:03,853 --> 00:45:05,333
Speaker 2: heavily processed, isn't it.

937
00:45:05,493 --> 00:45:08,133
Speaker 6: Yeah, So what we'd go for is your lean red

938
00:45:08,133 --> 00:45:10,413
Speaker 6: meat or your lean chicken. And so from an overall

939
00:45:10,453 --> 00:45:13,293
Speaker 6: nutrition perspective, that means we're getting all that really good nutrition,

940
00:45:13,853 --> 00:45:16,172
Speaker 6: the protein, the iron, the zinc, the B twelve, all

941
00:45:16,173 --> 00:45:21,413
Speaker 6: those things you get from the flammed chicken, but we're

942
00:45:21,413 --> 00:45:27,652
Speaker 6: not getting that the added salt mainly that we're getting

943
00:45:27,653 --> 00:45:31,493
Speaker 6: from processed meats. And that's one of the biggest concerns there.

944
00:45:31,933 --> 00:45:35,013
Speaker 2: Hey, now I've got a question for you, Julia that

945
00:45:35,093 --> 00:45:38,732
Speaker 2: might be a bit confronting people. People are a bit

946
00:45:39,053 --> 00:45:43,093
Speaker 2: skeptical on dietary advice because it seems to keep changing.

947
00:45:43,653 --> 00:45:45,692
Speaker 2: Everyone's always says, hey, our egg's good for you now,

948
00:45:45,733 --> 00:45:49,173
Speaker 2: because they were yesterday. And we all know that the

949
00:45:49,813 --> 00:45:52,893
Speaker 2: food pyramid got flipped over. Yeah, the one that.

950
00:45:52,773 --> 00:45:54,533
Speaker 3: I feel like they're coming for fruit now as well.

951
00:45:54,573 --> 00:45:55,293
Speaker 3: I just feel it.

952
00:45:56,653 --> 00:45:57,973
Speaker 2: I've heard people coming for fruit.

953
00:45:58,053 --> 00:45:58,252
Speaker 4: Yeah.

954
00:45:58,453 --> 00:46:01,653
Speaker 2: So how close are we to the truth in twenty

955
00:46:01,733 --> 00:46:02,292
Speaker 2: twenty five?

956
00:46:03,173 --> 00:46:05,013
Speaker 6: Well, I think first off, you need to be looking

957
00:46:05,053 --> 00:46:08,333
Speaker 6: at where you're getting nutrition advice from. So register dietis

958
00:46:08,373 --> 00:46:11,173
Speaker 6: and registered nutritionists. They're going to move away from all

959
00:46:11,213 --> 00:46:13,693
Speaker 6: the fluff, all the Instagram, all the social media stuff

960
00:46:13,733 --> 00:46:16,413
Speaker 6: that sits there and wants to sell you something. I

961
00:46:16,453 --> 00:46:19,293
Speaker 6: completely get it off work clinically in the universities and

962
00:46:19,333 --> 00:46:22,413
Speaker 6: now in industry, and those messages that sit out there

963
00:46:22,693 --> 00:46:25,212
Speaker 6: confuse everybody. I think at the end of the day,

964
00:46:25,253 --> 00:46:28,333
Speaker 6: we've got to think about how do we reduce the confusion.

965
00:46:28,373 --> 00:46:29,733
Speaker 6: And that's one of the things that we're trying to

966
00:46:29,773 --> 00:46:31,853
Speaker 6: do through Dietitians New Zealand and through the work that

967
00:46:31,853 --> 00:46:34,453
Speaker 6: we're doing here at Beef and Land. But ultimately it's

968
00:46:34,493 --> 00:46:35,893
Speaker 6: having food and meals.

969
00:46:35,613 --> 00:46:37,333
Speaker 14: That we enjoy, that they taste good.

970
00:46:38,013 --> 00:46:40,053
Speaker 15: It's about thinking, you know, we're not perfect.

971
00:46:40,613 --> 00:46:42,652
Speaker 6: You know, I don't think there's many dieticians who are

972
00:46:42,653 --> 00:46:45,293
Speaker 6: going to say they follow everything to a tea. I

973
00:46:45,293 --> 00:46:47,693
Speaker 6: think you've got to have a bit of flexibility and

974
00:46:47,733 --> 00:46:50,172
Speaker 6: what you eat. You've got to enjoy what you eat.

975
00:46:50,973 --> 00:46:53,293
Speaker 6: And it's doing the right thing most of the time.

976
00:46:53,973 --> 00:46:54,453
Speaker 16: And that's the.

977
00:46:54,493 --> 00:46:59,093
Speaker 6: Range of everything, not getting stuck on one particular thing,

978
00:46:59,253 --> 00:47:01,533
Speaker 6: because we know that variety is key and you've got

979
00:47:01,573 --> 00:47:03,733
Speaker 6: to build it into what you can afford, what's available.

980
00:47:03,813 --> 00:47:05,773
Speaker 6: And we all live in different parts of New Zealand

981
00:47:05,813 --> 00:47:07,493
Speaker 6: and some things are available at different times of the

982
00:47:07,573 --> 00:47:09,413
Speaker 6: year for different prices, and that's the key thing.

983
00:47:10,533 --> 00:47:13,373
Speaker 3: All right, Thanks so much, yeap, fascinating as always, Julia,

984
00:47:13,413 --> 00:47:15,253
Speaker 3: thank you very much. And we'll get you into the

985
00:47:15,373 --> 00:47:18,813
Speaker 3: mental roast at some stage. Rest assured. I mean bring

986
00:47:18,813 --> 00:47:19,373
Speaker 3: the lamb roast.

987
00:47:19,653 --> 00:47:20,773
Speaker 6: I'll bring the lamb roast to come with it.

988
00:47:21,253 --> 00:47:24,333
Speaker 3: Good fee, all right. That is Julia Sekula, head of

989
00:47:24,413 --> 00:47:27,613
Speaker 3: nutrition at Beef and Lamb and registered dietitian, and a good,

990
00:47:27,693 --> 00:47:31,133
Speaker 3: good question about you know, the confusion and nutrition. But

991
00:47:31,133 --> 00:47:32,413
Speaker 3: I thought that was a very good answer.

992
00:47:32,493 --> 00:47:32,692
Speaker 17: Yeah.

993
00:47:32,733 --> 00:47:35,973
Speaker 2: And if you're the head of nutrition at one of

994
00:47:36,013 --> 00:47:40,053
Speaker 2: these plant based meat manufacturers, then we'd love to hear

995
00:47:40,093 --> 00:47:42,652
Speaker 2: from you as well anytime. If you come on, if

996
00:47:42,653 --> 00:47:45,173
Speaker 2: you've got the opposing opinion on that, we'd love to

997
00:47:45,213 --> 00:47:48,573
Speaker 2: hear from you. This Texas is fake. Meats are exactly that,

998
00:47:48,613 --> 00:47:52,773
Speaker 2: full of chemicals. Bigger brands run the smaller companies that

999
00:47:52,853 --> 00:47:55,133
Speaker 2: are more ethical out of business. For Mark's here, the

1000
00:47:55,213 --> 00:47:57,693
Speaker 2: idea is run the more ethical brands out of business.

1001
00:47:57,693 --> 00:47:59,933
Speaker 2: The idea is to normalize these products. As the price

1002
00:47:59,973 --> 00:48:03,213
Speaker 2: of real meat becomes unreachable going forward, then start adding

1003
00:48:03,293 --> 00:48:06,533
Speaker 2: bugs and calling it protein. There are heaps of better

1004
00:48:06,573 --> 00:48:09,053
Speaker 2: options out there for those that want tomized meat and

1005
00:48:09,133 --> 00:48:11,533
Speaker 2: tech for their health and to be honest, where excessive

1006
00:48:11,573 --> 00:48:15,093
Speaker 2: meat eat is often leading to lifestyle diseases and sadly

1007
00:48:15,493 --> 00:48:18,533
Speaker 2: shorter lives. Yeah, there's a big push for the bugs. Yeah,

1008
00:48:18,573 --> 00:48:21,013
Speaker 2: there's some people that are all over the bugs.

1009
00:48:21,333 --> 00:48:23,173
Speaker 3: That's the next type one. If you get into the

1010
00:48:23,173 --> 00:48:25,693
Speaker 3: bug companies, get it now, but don't stay in too

1011
00:48:25,733 --> 00:48:27,252
Speaker 3: long because I think that hype wool die away.

1012
00:48:27,533 --> 00:48:27,692
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1013
00:48:27,733 --> 00:48:28,733
Speaker 3: Are you into the crickets?

1014
00:48:29,053 --> 00:48:29,252
Speaker 2: No?

1015
00:48:29,413 --> 00:48:30,373
Speaker 3: At a cricket protein?

1016
00:48:30,533 --> 00:48:34,293
Speaker 2: No? What's wrong with eating stuff that's growing here in

1017
00:48:34,333 --> 00:48:34,933
Speaker 2: New Zealand?

1018
00:48:35,093 --> 00:48:38,333
Speaker 3: Patriotic that's what we like right, Thank you very much.

1019
00:48:38,373 --> 00:48:40,333
Speaker 3: That was a great discussion and a good place to

1020
00:48:40,813 --> 00:48:43,093
Speaker 3: end that one. Coming up very shortly, we want to

1021
00:48:43,093 --> 00:48:46,413
Speaker 3: have a chat about the rental market, how landlords are

1022
00:48:46,413 --> 00:48:49,573
Speaker 3: trying to stand out in what is a crowded rental

1023
00:48:49,613 --> 00:48:52,413
Speaker 3: market at the moment according to various experts. So if

1024
00:48:52,413 --> 00:48:54,172
Speaker 3: you were renting at the moment, love to hear from

1025
00:48:54,213 --> 00:48:56,613
Speaker 3: you on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. How is

1026
00:48:56,653 --> 00:48:58,853
Speaker 3: it out there? It wasn't too long ago that we

1027
00:48:58,933 --> 00:49:01,693
Speaker 3: heard it was a housing crisis and very difficult to

1028
00:49:01,733 --> 00:49:04,253
Speaker 3: get into a rental seams that's flipped around pretty fast.

1029
00:49:04,613 --> 00:49:07,853
Speaker 3: So is it a renter's game currently in the market?

1030
00:49:07,853 --> 00:49:10,013
Speaker 3: And if you're a lord, what are you doing to

1031
00:49:10,093 --> 00:49:12,013
Speaker 3: retain good tenants? Love to hear from you on eight

1032
00:49:12,093 --> 00:49:16,013
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It is sixteen past two.

1033
00:49:16,053 --> 00:49:17,013
Speaker 3: Back free surely.

1034
00:49:18,533 --> 00:49:22,692
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

1035
00:49:22,893 --> 00:49:25,413
Speaker 1: call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth.

1036
00:49:25,253 --> 00:49:25,893
Speaker 4: Talk said, be.

1037
00:49:27,893 --> 00:49:31,373
Speaker 3: Afternoon. It is nineteen past two, Hats.

1038
00:49:31,933 --> 00:49:34,653
Speaker 2: I wanted to read this text before that. Tyler rudely

1039
00:49:35,333 --> 00:49:36,773
Speaker 2: talked over me and went to it.

1040
00:49:36,773 --> 00:49:40,053
Speaker 3: It's what I bring you because I thought it was

1041
00:49:40,053 --> 00:49:43,333
Speaker 3: a good text, especially this part. Hey love the show,

1042
00:49:43,413 --> 00:49:43,973
Speaker 3: Oh thank you.

1043
00:49:44,253 --> 00:49:44,453
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1044
00:49:45,133 --> 00:49:47,253
Speaker 2: If you put that at the top, then you're much

1045
00:49:47,333 --> 00:49:49,133
Speaker 2: more likely to get your text throughout. Even if we've

1046
00:49:49,173 --> 00:49:50,053
Speaker 2: moved on to a different.

1047
00:49:49,853 --> 00:49:52,373
Speaker 3: Way, I likely we'll find it because we love seeing it.

1048
00:49:52,613 --> 00:49:55,373
Speaker 2: I am Indian and have been brought up vegetarian, Like many,

1049
00:49:55,533 --> 00:49:58,252
Speaker 2: if not most Indians, plant based all tunatives was never

1050
00:49:58,333 --> 00:50:02,093
Speaker 2: really a thing. We mostly ate vegetables. Dairy well some

1051
00:50:02,133 --> 00:50:04,933
Speaker 2: people would, yeah, don mean dairies. Vegetinia vegetarian to some

1052
00:50:04,933 --> 00:50:07,692
Speaker 2: people are not for others, beans and lentils all spiced up,

1053
00:50:07,733 --> 00:50:11,573
Speaker 2: so it was all always delicious. Vegetarianism is totally normal,

1054
00:50:11,613 --> 00:50:14,732
Speaker 2: and having a cuisine built around it helps always having

1055
00:50:14,773 --> 00:50:17,573
Speaker 2: healthy and delicious options available. You just need to know

1056
00:50:17,613 --> 00:50:19,573
Speaker 2: what to make and how to make it. Give any

1057
00:50:19,613 --> 00:50:22,333
Speaker 2: Indian any vegetable and they will know exactly how to

1058
00:50:22,373 --> 00:50:26,013
Speaker 2: cook it into something amazing. Great text, Yeah, because I'll

1059
00:50:26,053 --> 00:50:28,172
Speaker 2: tell you what I felt like, we're putting the boot

1060
00:50:28,213 --> 00:50:30,692
Speaker 2: into vegetarians for the whole hour. And you know, people

1061
00:50:30,693 --> 00:50:33,693
Speaker 2: can be whatever they want. Ye eat whatever you freaking

1062
00:50:33,773 --> 00:50:38,413
Speaker 2: want exactly go for your life. But if it's a sausage.

1063
00:50:38,533 --> 00:50:41,373
Speaker 2: It's got to have meat in it. Otherwise it's a

1064
00:50:41,453 --> 00:50:42,053
Speaker 2: plant stick.

1065
00:50:42,173 --> 00:50:44,772
Speaker 3: All right, they lie about it. You know it's not meat.

1066
00:50:44,893 --> 00:50:46,773
Speaker 3: Just say it's not meat. Anyway, let's have a chat

1067
00:50:46,813 --> 00:50:50,053
Speaker 3: about this story. So landlords are trying to stand out

1068
00:50:50,093 --> 00:50:53,973
Speaker 3: and what is a crowded rental market? According to experts.

1069
00:50:54,013 --> 00:50:59,093
Speaker 3: So opis Partner's economist Ed McKnight. He used data to

1070
00:50:59,173 --> 00:51:01,853
Speaker 3: determine that properties in South Tartanaki, for example, we're taking

1071
00:51:01,933 --> 00:51:04,773
Speaker 3: thirty five days to rent. That's twenty three percent longer

1072
00:51:04,813 --> 00:51:07,973
Speaker 3: than this time last year. In a place like Stratford,

1073
00:51:07,973 --> 00:51:09,613
Speaker 3: the thirty three days it was taking to find a

1074
00:51:09,693 --> 00:51:12,893
Speaker 3: tenant is up fifty percent year on year. And the

1075
00:51:12,933 --> 00:51:15,413
Speaker 3: interesting part about this, as you alluded to a little

1076
00:51:15,413 --> 00:51:17,893
Speaker 3: bit earlier, is that not too long ago we had

1077
00:51:17,933 --> 00:51:22,453
Speaker 3: what was labeled a housing crisis crisis with a bold

1078
00:51:22,533 --> 00:51:25,333
Speaker 3: underline under the word crisis. And now it didn't take

1079
00:51:25,373 --> 00:51:29,173
Speaker 3: long too apparently turn that around. Yeah, that it's a

1080
00:51:29,173 --> 00:51:31,573
Speaker 3: bit of a renter's game at the moment, renter's market.

1081
00:51:31,653 --> 00:51:34,373
Speaker 2: So does that credit go to the government that they've

1082
00:51:34,413 --> 00:51:35,692
Speaker 2: managed to lower rents.

1083
00:51:35,493 --> 00:51:37,133
Speaker 3: Well, it have to do, wouldn't it, would it? Well,

1084
00:51:37,533 --> 00:51:38,333
Speaker 3: can they claim it.

1085
00:51:38,453 --> 00:51:42,813
Speaker 2: Who knows do governments just ride waves and then claim

1086
00:51:42,853 --> 00:51:45,053
Speaker 2: get abused when it's going the wrong way and claim

1087
00:51:45,133 --> 00:51:48,253
Speaker 2: victory the other way. I'd be interested though, because eight

1088
00:51:48,373 --> 00:51:51,533
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty, we're in nation that loves

1089
00:51:51,533 --> 00:51:53,813
Speaker 2: to buy a house. Yeah, we all, we most of

1090
00:51:53,893 --> 00:51:56,333
Speaker 2: us believe that we need to be on the properly

1091
00:51:56,373 --> 00:51:58,413
Speaker 2: ladder and we have huge pomo if we're not, and

1092
00:51:58,453 --> 00:52:00,893
Speaker 2: a lot of us feel like we aren't doing what

1093
00:52:00,893 --> 00:52:02,813
Speaker 2: we're supposed to do for our families if we don't

1094
00:52:02,933 --> 00:52:05,013
Speaker 2: buy and provide them a house. Yeah, even if that

1095
00:52:05,093 --> 00:52:09,093
Speaker 2: house comes with a crippling mortgage. To hear from people

1096
00:52:09,133 --> 00:52:13,172
Speaker 2: on eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty, if they are

1097
00:52:13,173 --> 00:52:16,533
Speaker 2: renting as a financial decision for life, if they've done

1098
00:52:16,573 --> 00:52:19,013
Speaker 2: the math and they've decided that buying a house isn't

1099
00:52:19,053 --> 00:52:21,333
Speaker 2: where they where they want to spend their money, and

1100
00:52:21,373 --> 00:52:24,253
Speaker 2: where they want to spend their money is you know,

1101
00:52:24,373 --> 00:52:26,173
Speaker 2: they'll pay a certain aount of rent stays like this,

1102
00:52:26,613 --> 00:52:29,613
Speaker 2: and instead of the interest payments and the mortgage, they

1103
00:52:29,613 --> 00:52:31,973
Speaker 2: want to spend that on other stuff. I mean, maybe

1104
00:52:31,973 --> 00:52:34,533
Speaker 2: they want to invest in their business while they're renting,

1105
00:52:35,253 --> 00:52:38,373
Speaker 2: because you know, in the last few years, the value

1106
00:52:38,413 --> 00:52:40,252
Speaker 2: of houses hasn't been going up at the same level,

1107
00:52:40,693 --> 00:52:42,413
Speaker 2: so as they're a rising tide of people that are

1108
00:52:42,453 --> 00:52:45,533
Speaker 2: going No, I'm not renting because I can't afford to

1109
00:52:45,693 --> 00:52:48,333
Speaker 2: buy a house and I can't afford to get the

1110
00:52:48,373 --> 00:52:51,573
Speaker 2: deposit together. But I'm renting because I've done the figures

1111
00:52:51,613 --> 00:52:55,013
Speaker 2: and I believe that renting is a better way to

1112
00:52:55,053 --> 00:52:57,772
Speaker 2: go because a lot of people that are renting, you'll

1113
00:52:57,813 --> 00:53:03,773
Speaker 2: find that your landlord is subsidizing. You know, they're what

1114
00:53:03,813 --> 00:53:06,973
Speaker 2: you're paying isn't paying off the mortgage completely. They're renting

1115
00:53:06,973 --> 00:53:08,773
Speaker 2: out and they're topping up to pay off mortgage.

1116
00:53:08,853 --> 00:53:10,773
Speaker 3: Yep, we are not buy a hell of a lot,

1117
00:53:10,813 --> 00:53:13,533
Speaker 3: but we're topping up our So we're renting our place

1118
00:53:13,533 --> 00:53:15,133
Speaker 3: out in christ Judge and we're having to top that

1119
00:53:15,253 --> 00:53:18,573
Speaker 3: up about three k a year to meet So that's

1120
00:53:18,613 --> 00:53:22,333
Speaker 3: after insurance rates that doesn't include any maintenance. Maintenance is

1121
00:53:22,373 --> 00:53:26,172
Speaker 3: on another ledger because you don't include that, and we're

1122
00:53:26,173 --> 00:53:27,533
Speaker 3: still having to top that up a little bit.

1123
00:53:27,573 --> 00:53:29,813
Speaker 2: So in a way, you're subsidizing the living of the

1124
00:53:29,853 --> 00:53:31,053
Speaker 2: person in your house.

1125
00:53:31,453 --> 00:53:32,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're.

1126
00:53:32,213 --> 00:53:36,853
Speaker 2: Banking on capital gain, yes, exactly, bang on because people

1127
00:53:36,853 --> 00:53:39,693
Speaker 2: have bet against bet against property a lot of times

1128
00:53:39,733 --> 00:53:41,693
Speaker 2: in New Zealand, and you always have these economists that

1129
00:53:41,733 --> 00:53:43,933
Speaker 2: have come out and say that's stupid, and then seven

1130
00:53:44,013 --> 00:53:47,653
Speaker 2: years later they're looking idiotic because people that have invested

1131
00:53:47,653 --> 00:53:49,373
Speaker 2: in property property have made a lot of money.

1132
00:53:49,453 --> 00:53:51,493
Speaker 3: But you're right. I mean, I've seen a few articles

1133
00:53:51,573 --> 00:53:54,493
Speaker 3: trying to work out the equations for those that are

1134
00:53:54,493 --> 00:53:58,533
Speaker 3: deciding to rent and those that are buying, and the benefits,

1135
00:53:58,573 --> 00:54:01,493
Speaker 3: according to those articles, are starting to narrow get very

1136
00:54:01,493 --> 00:54:04,573
Speaker 3: closer together if those renters are doing other things with

1137
00:54:04,653 --> 00:54:08,652
Speaker 3: their extra money, like convencing into the share market. To

1138
00:54:08,653 --> 00:54:11,212
Speaker 3: hear from you if you are renting at the moment

1139
00:54:11,253 --> 00:54:14,053
Speaker 3: for our financial decision, and it appears right now that

1140
00:54:14,093 --> 00:54:16,293
Speaker 3: if you've recently sold, it's probably not a bad time

1141
00:54:16,373 --> 00:54:19,253
Speaker 3: to rent for a little bit while the market starts

1142
00:54:19,333 --> 00:54:23,013
Speaker 3: to equilib equiliberalize Is it a word?

1143
00:54:23,293 --> 00:54:25,733
Speaker 2: I don't I think you could just say.

1144
00:54:25,813 --> 00:54:28,053
Speaker 3: Balance, balance, Yeah, balance would have been a better way

1145
00:54:28,053 --> 00:54:29,493
Speaker 3: to go for equilibrialized.

1146
00:54:29,493 --> 00:54:30,493
Speaker 2: Pretty sure that's not a word.

1147
00:54:30,573 --> 00:54:32,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll look that one up. But can you hear

1148
00:54:32,613 --> 00:54:34,533
Speaker 3: from you? Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1149
00:54:34,573 --> 00:54:37,013
Speaker 3: the number to call and I just want to throw

1150
00:54:37,053 --> 00:54:38,652
Speaker 3: this out to here because it's a line that I've

1151
00:54:38,653 --> 00:54:41,053
Speaker 3: just spotted in the story. So this is about landlords

1152
00:54:41,053 --> 00:54:43,053
Speaker 3: trying to stand out and what appears to be quite

1153
00:54:43,493 --> 00:54:46,893
Speaker 3: a saturated market. Allowing pets would also help a property

1154
00:54:46,933 --> 00:54:49,652
Speaker 3: stand out. About two thirds of households have pets, but

1155
00:54:49,733 --> 00:54:52,812
Speaker 3: only thirteen percent of rentals elicited as pet friendly. That's

1156
00:54:52,813 --> 00:54:54,533
Speaker 3: a hell of a gamble for a landlord to take,

1157
00:54:54,613 --> 00:54:57,813
Speaker 3: isn't it, allowing pets into a rental. And I'm saying, look,

1158
00:54:57,853 --> 00:55:00,853
Speaker 3: I'm all for it, and we've done that for our

1159
00:55:01,293 --> 00:55:04,973
Speaker 3: rental down in christ Church. But I think it's still

1160
00:55:05,413 --> 00:55:08,093
Speaker 3: an incredible gamble. It worked out for us. I think

1161
00:55:08,133 --> 00:55:10,013
Speaker 3: we're been very lucky with the tenants that we've got

1162
00:55:10,013 --> 00:55:10,573
Speaker 3: in our place.

1163
00:55:10,973 --> 00:55:12,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it'll be interesting to flip around the other way.

1164
00:55:13,173 --> 00:55:16,693
Speaker 2: One hundred eighty ten eighty have you you were renting

1165
00:55:16,733 --> 00:55:18,653
Speaker 2: out your house and you had a strict pit policy,

1166
00:55:19,013 --> 00:55:22,533
Speaker 2: but you're struggling to rent out your house now, so

1167
00:55:22,653 --> 00:55:26,652
Speaker 2: you go, Okay, you can bring your seventeen dobman pinchers in.

1168
00:55:27,493 --> 00:55:29,773
Speaker 2: It's taking longer to rent out properties because a record

1169
00:55:29,853 --> 00:55:32,772
Speaker 2: number of young Kiwis are off to Australia. Yeah, one

1170
00:55:32,813 --> 00:55:33,893
Speaker 2: point that could be interesting.

1171
00:55:34,053 --> 00:55:37,853
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And this one says, who wants to live

1172
00:55:37,893 --> 00:55:38,453
Speaker 3: in Stratford?

1173
00:55:38,693 --> 00:55:39,653
Speaker 2: What's wrong with Stratford?

1174
00:55:39,733 --> 00:55:42,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, Stratford's a fine place. I haven't been there for

1175
00:55:42,573 --> 00:55:44,973
Speaker 3: some time, to be honest, but from what I hear.

1176
00:55:45,253 --> 00:55:49,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Are you choosing

1177
00:55:49,093 --> 00:55:53,373
Speaker 2: to rent over buy for financial reasons even though you

1178
00:55:53,373 --> 00:55:56,133
Speaker 2: would be in a position to buy? And if you're

1179
00:55:57,453 --> 00:55:59,813
Speaker 2: a landlord trying to rent out your house, tell us

1180
00:55:59,813 --> 00:56:00,613
Speaker 2: how you're going out there.

1181
00:56:00,653 --> 00:56:03,053
Speaker 3: It is twenty five past two, but oh, eight hundred

1182
00:56:03,053 --> 00:56:05,573
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Begory

1183
00:56:05,573 --> 00:56:06,773
Speaker 3: shortly here on news Talks.

1184
00:56:06,533 --> 00:56:06,733
Speaker 18: You b.

1185
00:56:10,813 --> 00:56:12,253
Speaker 4: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

1186
00:56:12,293 --> 00:56:15,493
Speaker 1: Afternoons call oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty on News

1187
00:56:15,573 --> 00:56:16,253
Speaker 1: Talk said.

1188
00:56:16,093 --> 00:56:19,213
Speaker 3: Be good afternoon, and we're talking about what landlords are

1189
00:56:19,213 --> 00:56:21,373
Speaker 3: trying to do to stand out in a crowded rental

1190
00:56:21,453 --> 00:56:22,573
Speaker 3: market at the moment.

1191
00:56:23,053 --> 00:56:25,253
Speaker 2: Taking a bit longer to rent out your probably apparently,

1192
00:56:25,333 --> 00:56:27,812
Speaker 2: and someone texted it mate because heaps the young people

1193
00:56:27,853 --> 00:56:31,613
Speaker 2: have headed off to Australia. Who knows. Hey, hey guys,

1194
00:56:31,613 --> 00:56:33,813
Speaker 2: I've always allowed pets as I found, I got tenants

1195
00:56:33,813 --> 00:56:36,333
Speaker 2: who always paid and stayed longer, probably because they had

1196
00:56:36,413 --> 00:56:39,653
Speaker 2: less choice. Cheers Brian, So what did you say thirteen

1197
00:56:39,693 --> 00:56:42,733
Speaker 2: percent of properties allow pets?

1198
00:56:42,853 --> 00:56:46,413
Speaker 3: Yep, so two thirds of households have pets, but only

1199
00:56:46,533 --> 00:56:49,773
Speaker 3: thirteen percent of rentals are listed as pet friendly. Can

1200
00:56:49,813 --> 00:56:50,813
Speaker 3: it is a massive golf?

1201
00:56:50,853 --> 00:56:53,293
Speaker 2: Can you hide a pet from your landlord?

1202
00:56:53,853 --> 00:56:54,212
Speaker 3: A cat?

1203
00:56:54,253 --> 00:56:54,573
Speaker 4: You could?

1204
00:56:55,053 --> 00:56:57,133
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what though, it's a property that doesn't

1205
00:56:57,133 --> 00:56:59,733
Speaker 2: allowed pets, and you managed to hide it from your landlord,

1206
00:57:00,373 --> 00:57:02,813
Speaker 2: then it was a pet that did no damage. Yeah,

1207
00:57:02,813 --> 00:57:03,613
Speaker 2: if you see what I'm saying.

1208
00:57:03,733 --> 00:57:05,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well I had a mate who didn't tell the

1209
00:57:05,973 --> 00:57:08,293
Speaker 3: landlord that he had a dog, and it wasn't until

1210
00:57:08,413 --> 00:57:12,013
Speaker 3: landor came around it six months after and realized he

1211
00:57:12,093 --> 00:57:14,533
Speaker 3: had a dog. But then he made the good argument

1212
00:57:14,573 --> 00:57:17,893
Speaker 3: said well hasn't made any damage, so anything wrong with it,

1213
00:57:17,933 --> 00:57:19,413
Speaker 3: and he got away with it. But if you are

1214
00:57:19,453 --> 00:57:22,333
Speaker 3: a landlord that is starting to have a rethink about

1215
00:57:22,333 --> 00:57:24,293
Speaker 3: allowing people with pets, love to hear from here on

1216
00:57:24,453 --> 00:57:27,413
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty and I agree with that, Texter.

1217
00:57:27,573 --> 00:57:30,813
Speaker 3: When we rented out our place in Christchurch, and granted

1218
00:57:30,813 --> 00:57:33,453
Speaker 3: we needed to find a pet friendly place up here.

1219
00:57:33,973 --> 00:57:37,053
Speaker 3: But there was a part of me that thought, if

1220
00:57:37,093 --> 00:57:40,053
Speaker 3: we rented out to a family with a couple of dogs,

1221
00:57:40,093 --> 00:57:43,813
Speaker 3: they'll be thankful that we allowed them to have pets,

1222
00:57:43,813 --> 00:57:45,373
Speaker 3: and because they were thankful, they were going to look

1223
00:57:45,373 --> 00:57:47,133
Speaker 3: after the place. A bit of a gamble, but it

1224
00:57:47,173 --> 00:57:49,333
Speaker 3: has worked out for us. I mean, phenomenal tenants, really

1225
00:57:49,373 --> 00:57:49,813
Speaker 3: really good.

1226
00:57:50,013 --> 00:57:53,013
Speaker 2: See's a lot of Stratford hate coming through on the

1227
00:57:53,853 --> 00:57:55,973
Speaker 2: on the text machine on nine two nine two. I

1228
00:57:55,973 --> 00:58:00,373
Speaker 2: wouldn't stick up for the city of Stratford. Taranaki. It's

1229
00:58:00,413 --> 00:58:05,253
Speaker 2: got that call as like a five story tutor tutor clock.

1230
00:58:05,333 --> 00:58:06,333
Speaker 3: It's a beautiful looking clock.

1231
00:58:06,373 --> 00:58:08,213
Speaker 2: It looks like something black Atta would live in. Yeah,

1232
00:58:10,013 --> 00:58:13,333
Speaker 2: this textus says, as a father of two, if I

1233
00:58:13,373 --> 00:58:15,893
Speaker 2: had a rental property, I'd allow pets before young children.

1234
00:58:15,973 --> 00:58:20,653
Speaker 3: That's from Luke. Yeah, very good. One eighty is the

1235
00:58:20,933 --> 00:58:23,293
Speaker 3: number to call. Let's go to Ben. Get a ben.

1236
00:58:24,653 --> 00:58:25,613
Speaker 18: How's it going guys?

1237
00:58:25,733 --> 00:58:28,133
Speaker 3: Very good. So you've just taken on a new place

1238
00:58:28,133 --> 00:58:28,293
Speaker 3: of you.

1239
00:58:29,453 --> 00:58:32,293
Speaker 16: Yeah, we have my wife and I we were living

1240
00:58:32,413 --> 00:58:36,613
Speaker 16: we were renting for six years at a property and

1241
00:58:38,493 --> 00:58:40,893
Speaker 16: our land was decided that they're going to up and sell,

1242
00:58:41,053 --> 00:58:46,053
Speaker 16: so we had to move out. We had asked if

1243
00:58:46,053 --> 00:58:48,973
Speaker 16: we could have pets at the property and they said no.

1244
00:58:49,093 --> 00:58:52,973
Speaker 16: So that was like a sort of a place of

1245
00:58:54,173 --> 00:58:56,813
Speaker 16: discussion for us where we wanted to have a pet

1246
00:58:56,853 --> 00:59:01,653
Speaker 16: and find a place that was pet friendly. And we

1247
00:59:01,733 --> 00:59:05,533
Speaker 16: looked at buying homes, but at the moment, like it

1248
00:59:05,573 --> 00:59:09,653
Speaker 16: was twice as much as we could find to rent.

1249
00:59:10,293 --> 00:59:14,133
Speaker 16: So we're looking at like a mortgage of roughly fifteen

1250
00:59:14,213 --> 00:59:17,253
Speaker 16: hundred a week and in Auckland.

1251
00:59:16,853 --> 00:59:21,053
Speaker 13: Of course. And then we looked and looked at renting,

1252
00:59:21,293 --> 00:59:24,493
Speaker 13: like just moving straight into another rental that was pet friending.

1253
00:59:24,573 --> 00:59:28,253
Speaker 13: We found the Rosito apartments in Mount Wellington. I don't

1254
00:59:28,253 --> 00:59:30,133
Speaker 13: know if you guys have heard them, heard of them,

1255
00:59:30,133 --> 00:59:33,573
Speaker 13: but they're build to rent a building.

1256
00:59:34,573 --> 00:59:37,013
Speaker 3: No, I'm in Mount Wellington, what part of Mount Wellington?

1257
00:59:37,093 --> 00:59:40,493
Speaker 3: Just out of interest, Sylvie apart All right, Yeah.

1258
00:59:40,933 --> 00:59:42,533
Speaker 13: You've got a big high rise there and there's like

1259
00:59:42,693 --> 00:59:46,693
Speaker 13: four of them and yeah, they're called Rosito. And we

1260
00:59:47,093 --> 00:59:51,613
Speaker 13: applied there and it was pretty it was quite a

1261
00:59:51,693 --> 00:59:54,053
Speaker 13: pretty quick process. They vested us and make sure that

1262
00:59:54,173 --> 00:59:56,413
Speaker 13: we could pay our rent and stuff. But you pay

1263
00:59:56,653 --> 01:00:00,093
Speaker 13: you pay a premium there like that, probably like one

1264
01:00:00,173 --> 01:00:03,453
Speaker 13: hundred bucks extra for what you're getting, but you get

1265
01:00:04,213 --> 01:00:07,173
Speaker 13: like for the size of the property. But the actual

1266
01:00:07,693 --> 01:00:11,693
Speaker 13: perks are amazing, Like they have like the super big

1267
01:00:11,853 --> 01:00:13,933
Speaker 13: gym that's all state of the art. They have like

1268
01:00:14,013 --> 01:00:19,013
Speaker 13: a cinema cinema room, they have a rooftop barbecue area,

1269
01:00:20,533 --> 01:00:23,973
Speaker 13: and that the actual apartments are like hotel like fancy

1270
01:00:24,053 --> 01:00:26,133
Speaker 13: hotel rooms. Me and my wife, we've we've been in

1271
01:00:26,213 --> 01:00:28,213
Speaker 13: there for a month and like every time we walk

1272
01:00:28,253 --> 01:00:32,013
Speaker 13: and we're like, fah, this is major to what we

1273
01:00:32,093 --> 01:00:35,053
Speaker 13: were used to. But you know, the reason for it

1274
01:00:35,293 --> 01:00:38,813
Speaker 13: was that like not pets, acid and all that, Like

1275
01:00:38,973 --> 01:00:43,613
Speaker 13: rent was way cheaper than purchasing a house. We saved up.

1276
01:00:43,853 --> 01:00:46,013
Speaker 13: We've saved up in things we've We've got like over

1277
01:00:46,053 --> 01:00:48,293
Speaker 13: one hundred and fifty K for a deposit and some

1278
01:00:48,453 --> 01:00:54,813
Speaker 13: key we saber. But like after like after we'd worked

1279
01:00:54,813 --> 01:00:57,653
Speaker 13: out all the calculations, it's just so it's just was

1280
01:00:57,893 --> 01:01:01,853
Speaker 13: it wasn't leaving up us with enough after the fact,

1281
01:01:02,013 --> 01:01:05,693
Speaker 13: like there were there wasn't a lot extra And you know,

1282
01:01:06,693 --> 01:01:08,253
Speaker 13: I know that discipline comes into it.

1283
01:01:08,493 --> 01:01:08,933
Speaker 4: We couldn't.

1284
01:01:08,973 --> 01:01:12,013
Speaker 13: We don't think we could have done it, and yeah,

1285
01:01:12,093 --> 01:01:12,973
Speaker 13: not with our lifestyle.

1286
01:01:13,013 --> 01:01:15,853
Speaker 3: We like to travel and yeah, and you're worried Ben

1287
01:01:15,973 --> 01:01:17,773
Speaker 3: that you're going to if you don't jump on the

1288
01:01:17,813 --> 01:01:21,293
Speaker 3: property letter, you'll you'll miss out on you know, capital

1289
01:01:21,373 --> 01:01:24,293
Speaker 3: gains and setting yourself up for later life.

1290
01:01:25,613 --> 01:01:27,933
Speaker 13: Well, I've been worried about that. I'm thirty eight, so

1291
01:01:28,013 --> 01:01:29,893
Speaker 13: I've been worried about that for like twenty years.

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01:01:31,173 --> 01:01:31,373
Speaker 14: Yeah.

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01:01:32,413 --> 01:01:37,053
Speaker 13: Yeah, like my sister think he bought her first home.

1294
01:01:37,413 --> 01:01:39,813
Speaker 13: It only costs like three hundred and fifty K and

1295
01:01:40,333 --> 01:01:43,133
Speaker 13: they're like living it up now. But so yes, I

1296
01:01:43,213 --> 01:01:45,693
Speaker 13: have had that in the back of my mind. But

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01:01:46,973 --> 01:01:50,573
Speaker 13: but you know, for us, we're comfortable renting and we're

1298
01:01:50,773 --> 01:01:53,453
Speaker 13: because that's been a way of like we we could

1299
01:01:53,493 --> 01:01:55,973
Speaker 13: have bought earlier on in life, but we decided that

1300
01:01:56,093 --> 01:01:59,053
Speaker 13: traveling was the go for us, and we don't really

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01:01:59,133 --> 01:02:01,493
Speaker 13: regret it. But it is hard to watch all my

1302
01:02:01,573 --> 01:02:05,613
Speaker 13: friends and family who have bought homes to enjoy the

1303
01:02:05,693 --> 01:02:06,493
Speaker 13: benefits of all that.

1304
01:02:06,693 --> 01:02:07,893
Speaker 14: And that is true.

1305
01:02:08,653 --> 01:02:11,533
Speaker 13: But right now I can, like after talking to people

1306
01:02:11,573 --> 01:02:13,893
Speaker 13: that have bought recently, some of my friends have bought

1307
01:02:14,093 --> 01:02:18,813
Speaker 13: their first home and they're not struggling, but they are tight.

1308
01:02:19,213 --> 01:02:22,893
Speaker 13: You know, it's never money, it's always like what how

1309
01:02:22,973 --> 01:02:25,173
Speaker 13: much do you. We're very much to the point, how

1310
01:02:25,213 --> 01:02:27,373
Speaker 13: much do you have left over? And they're like maybe

1311
01:02:27,413 --> 01:02:30,893
Speaker 13: a couple hundred a week and that's not much, you know.

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01:02:33,053 --> 01:02:34,773
Speaker 2: Can you tell us, can you tell us if you

1313
01:02:34,773 --> 01:02:38,613
Speaker 2: don't mind sharing what you roughly pay and rent? Ben yep,

1314
01:02:38,773 --> 01:02:40,253
Speaker 2: So we have we get it.

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Speaker 13: We're in a nice, large two bedroom apartment right at

1316
01:02:43,493 --> 01:02:48,613
Speaker 13: the top on level seven. We pay seven fifty a week,

1317
01:02:48,693 --> 01:02:54,413
Speaker 13: which are seems real high. Yeah, it has a gym,

1318
01:02:54,893 --> 01:02:59,733
Speaker 13: we're allowed pets, your pets. In the entire it's eighty

1319
01:02:59,893 --> 01:03:03,133
Speaker 13: seven percent full at the moment, which means people clearly

1320
01:03:03,213 --> 01:03:07,493
Speaker 13: love it. They hold community events once a month, once

1321
01:03:07,573 --> 01:03:08,213
Speaker 13: every two months.

1322
01:03:08,413 --> 01:03:08,893
Speaker 19: We're in there.

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01:03:09,413 --> 01:03:11,853
Speaker 13: Down the bottom there's a big hub area where they

1324
01:03:12,013 --> 01:03:15,093
Speaker 13: like put on like bears and food and you know,

1325
01:03:15,253 --> 01:03:18,693
Speaker 13: like it's crazy, like it's I never thought this type

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01:03:18,693 --> 01:03:22,293
Speaker 13: of living existed. And we just we we you know,

1327
01:03:22,413 --> 01:03:25,453
Speaker 13: we our budget was like six fifty a week for

1328
01:03:25,573 --> 01:03:28,813
Speaker 13: rent because that's what our previous we were previously paying.

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01:03:28,853 --> 01:03:31,493
Speaker 13: So then we went and checked this out. We're like,

1330
01:03:32,413 --> 01:03:35,933
Speaker 13: you know, we can cancelor gym memberships, the you know,

1331
01:03:36,093 --> 01:03:39,093
Speaker 13: the internet is really cheap there, like it's it was

1332
01:03:39,173 --> 01:03:41,933
Speaker 13: about thirty dollars cheap for a month, and all the

1333
01:03:42,013 --> 01:03:44,933
Speaker 13: benefits came into place, so like we're loving it. We

1334
01:03:45,093 --> 01:03:47,493
Speaker 13: think we're paying a little bit of a premium, but

1335
01:03:47,573 --> 01:03:50,893
Speaker 13: we don't care. Like it's it's way better than paying

1336
01:03:50,933 --> 01:03:53,253
Speaker 13: fifteen hundred a week for mortgage in my opinion.

1337
01:03:53,333 --> 01:03:54,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, well there you go.

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01:03:54,293 --> 01:03:55,213
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your call.

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01:03:55,253 --> 01:03:55,413
Speaker 3: Ben.

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01:03:55,533 --> 01:03:57,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's interesting that they actually use those areas

1341
01:03:57,453 --> 01:04:00,813
Speaker 2: because when I obvious see areas advertising those buildings, they go, yeah,

1342
01:04:00,813 --> 01:04:02,373
Speaker 2: but no one's going to go to the barbecue area.

1343
01:04:02,493 --> 01:04:04,133
Speaker 2: I don't even believe people will use the pool in

1344
01:04:04,173 --> 01:04:06,933
Speaker 2: those things. But you're saying they do. Sounds pretty nice.

1345
01:04:06,973 --> 01:04:08,813
Speaker 2: You go, oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1346
01:04:08,893 --> 01:04:12,733
Speaker 2: Ben has sold the renting dream. Yeah, you know you're

1347
01:04:12,773 --> 01:04:14,653
Speaker 2: on the Ben train. Yeah, we all suck. As for

1348
01:04:14,693 --> 01:04:17,093
Speaker 2: getting messive mortgages, it is twenty four or.

1349
01:04:17,093 --> 01:04:17,773
Speaker 3: Two three.

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01:04:20,253 --> 01:04:23,173
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01:05:25,293 --> 01:05:27,373
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy, and we're talking about renting

1369
01:05:27,533 --> 01:05:31,293
Speaker 3: or owning a property. Ben our previous caller was all

1370
01:05:31,533 --> 01:05:33,533
Speaker 3: on the renting game and it was working out pretty

1371
01:05:33,533 --> 01:05:35,293
Speaker 3: well for them from what they were paying seven hundred

1372
01:05:35,293 --> 01:05:38,253
Speaker 3: and fifty renting versus fifteen hundred bucks on a mortgage.

1373
01:05:38,813 --> 01:05:42,133
Speaker 2: According to this article, though, it is a renter's market

1374
01:05:42,373 --> 01:05:45,453
Speaker 2: as opposed to a landlord's market, and people are waiting

1375
01:05:45,613 --> 01:05:48,293
Speaker 2: longer to rent their properties out than they were up

1376
01:05:48,373 --> 01:05:50,013
Speaker 2: until very recently. Some people a saying this for so

1377
01:05:50,053 --> 01:05:52,893
Speaker 2: many young people heading over to Australia. But whatever the reason,

1378
01:05:53,893 --> 01:05:58,053
Speaker 2: some people are apparently choosing renting over buying a house,

1379
01:05:58,453 --> 01:06:00,453
Speaker 2: even when they've got the deposit and the ability to

1380
01:06:00,533 --> 01:06:03,893
Speaker 2: do it. Like Ben who just called before, I'd rather

1381
01:06:03,933 --> 01:06:06,453
Speaker 2: allow people to have pets than have young children renting,

1382
01:06:06,493 --> 01:06:09,253
Speaker 2: as long as the pet owners clean the after leaving.

1383
01:06:09,573 --> 01:06:11,133
Speaker 3: There you go, we're getting a lot of ticks in

1384
01:06:11,173 --> 01:06:12,693
Speaker 3: that regard pet's over children.

1385
01:06:13,013 --> 01:06:13,213
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1386
01:06:13,573 --> 01:06:16,853
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call. Max.

1387
01:06:17,213 --> 01:06:19,573
Speaker 2: You're twenty six and you've bought a house in Mount

1388
01:06:19,773 --> 01:06:20,373
Speaker 2: Eden this year?

1389
01:06:22,053 --> 01:06:24,893
Speaker 20: Yeah, just February last year, we me and my fiance

1390
01:06:25,093 --> 01:06:27,453
Speaker 20: brought our just at one bedroom unit.

1391
01:06:27,373 --> 01:06:29,773
Speaker 18: In Mount Eden, just skipping phone coffee.

1392
01:06:30,173 --> 01:06:33,253
Speaker 3: Basically congratulations, thank you very much.

1393
01:06:33,613 --> 01:06:35,773
Speaker 2: And you chose to do that over renting.

1394
01:06:37,013 --> 01:06:39,093
Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, so we sort of had a look.

1395
01:06:39,173 --> 01:06:40,373
Speaker 18: We were racing previously.

1396
01:06:42,093 --> 01:06:44,373
Speaker 20: We had a really good deal but unfortunately the building

1397
01:06:44,413 --> 01:06:46,773
Speaker 20: we were in was due to be demolished, so we

1398
01:06:47,373 --> 01:06:49,373
Speaker 20: basically we were getting kicked out and we had a

1399
01:06:49,413 --> 01:06:52,653
Speaker 20: look around a sort of the central aus Mount Eden

1400
01:06:52,693 --> 01:06:55,853
Speaker 20: area for rentals and we sort of found that you're

1401
01:06:55,893 --> 01:06:58,973
Speaker 20: looking at around about the five to seven hundred dollars

1402
01:06:59,013 --> 01:07:03,173
Speaker 20: mark per week just for a one bedroom place, and

1403
01:07:03,253 --> 01:07:06,253
Speaker 20: we sort of thought, hold on, what can we do

1404
01:07:06,653 --> 01:07:09,773
Speaker 20: otherwise to you know, try maybe look at owning a home.

1405
01:07:09,893 --> 01:07:13,493
Speaker 20: And we worked out that the mortgage payments were basically

1406
01:07:13,813 --> 01:07:16,093
Speaker 20: very very similar to what you'd be paying and anyway,

1407
01:07:16,613 --> 01:07:19,053
Speaker 20: I mean you're going to take into account of rates

1408
01:07:19,133 --> 01:07:22,373
Speaker 20: and other things like that. But we find the trade offs.

1409
01:07:23,573 --> 01:07:26,373
Speaker 20: We're being able to you know, do whatever we want

1410
01:07:26,413 --> 01:07:28,853
Speaker 20: to the house when we want, and also you know,

1411
01:07:30,333 --> 01:07:33,813
Speaker 20: being able to have something to maybe elivate us to

1412
01:07:34,053 --> 01:07:36,133
Speaker 20: a bigger property you know later on when we want

1413
01:07:36,173 --> 01:07:39,213
Speaker 20: to have conspitentially as well. So also getting a pet

1414
01:07:39,733 --> 01:07:41,493
Speaker 20: that was a big thing for us. So yeah, we

1415
01:07:41,693 --> 01:07:42,573
Speaker 20: thought it was a no brainer.

1416
01:07:44,173 --> 01:07:46,573
Speaker 2: That's the thing that people, you know, when you first

1417
01:07:46,613 --> 01:07:48,373
Speaker 2: buy a house. I remember when I first bought a house,

1418
01:07:48,413 --> 01:07:50,533
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that I could just knock anything. I

1419
01:07:50,613 --> 01:07:53,133
Speaker 2: wanted too the wall, and I could just do anything

1420
01:07:53,453 --> 01:07:53,773
Speaker 2: I want.

1421
01:07:54,173 --> 01:07:54,973
Speaker 3: Ultimate freedom.

1422
01:07:55,133 --> 01:07:59,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, knock down something, put something up, you know, do

1423
01:07:59,293 --> 01:08:01,573
Speaker 2: your own handiwork and all that kind of stuff. I

1424
01:08:01,613 --> 01:08:03,053
Speaker 2: mean that flip side of that is you have to

1425
01:08:03,093 --> 01:08:05,853
Speaker 2: do all of it. Yeah, but it is quite it's

1426
01:08:05,933 --> 01:08:08,693
Speaker 2: quite a freeing experience when you go, I can do

1427
01:08:08,893 --> 01:08:11,093
Speaker 2: whatever I want. I can I can rip the wallpaper

1428
01:08:11,173 --> 01:08:13,093
Speaker 2: off here and paint the wall. I can do whatever

1429
01:08:13,173 --> 01:08:15,013
Speaker 2: I want. Have you done much since you moved into

1430
01:08:15,093 --> 01:08:16,173
Speaker 2: this place in Mount Eden?

1431
01:08:16,412 --> 01:08:16,612
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1432
01:08:16,853 --> 01:08:19,692
Speaker 21: Yeah, basically as soon as we moved and we started

1433
01:08:19,733 --> 01:08:22,532
Speaker 21: putting up shells here and there, putting a coat of

1434
01:08:22,613 --> 01:08:27,173
Speaker 21: paint on the walls. And luckily my partner's dad's the

1435
01:08:27,333 --> 01:08:30,253
Speaker 21: Cadet makers, so that makes it really helpful for us

1436
01:08:30,293 --> 01:08:32,333
Speaker 21: when we want to do bigger innovations as well. But

1437
01:08:32,812 --> 01:08:35,572
Speaker 21: currently trying to pay for the wedding at the moment,

1438
01:08:35,652 --> 01:08:36,692
Speaker 21: so funds are a bit lower.

1439
01:08:36,772 --> 01:08:40,932
Speaker 20: In the future, will definitely be wrapping up the kitchen

1440
01:08:41,013 --> 01:08:43,133
Speaker 20: and putting in a brand steaky new one, and same

1441
01:08:43,173 --> 01:08:44,013
Speaker 20: with the bathroom as well.

1442
01:08:44,053 --> 01:08:47,532
Speaker 3: I think nice. Now you're a young guy, Max twenty six.

1443
01:08:48,053 --> 01:08:50,372
Speaker 3: Is there a few people in your friend group that

1444
01:08:50,612 --> 01:08:53,812
Speaker 3: might be traveling a bit. You know they're doing they

1445
01:08:53,893 --> 01:08:56,293
Speaker 3: don't own a house and they're using their expendable cash

1446
01:08:56,372 --> 01:08:58,933
Speaker 3: for some of those fun things. Does that grind on

1447
01:08:59,053 --> 01:08:59,652
Speaker 3: you a little bit?

1448
01:09:01,412 --> 01:09:05,133
Speaker 20: Not particularly good friends who are own their own And

1449
01:09:06,293 --> 01:09:08,253
Speaker 20: we're sort of at the age now wherever I'm starting

1450
01:09:08,532 --> 01:09:13,452
Speaker 20: just slowly settled down. You're not at the stage where

1451
01:09:13,532 --> 01:09:17,933
Speaker 20: we're spending all night at home with kids, but we're sten.

1452
01:09:17,612 --> 01:09:20,892
Speaker 18: We felt make the time was right. And then also

1453
01:09:21,053 --> 01:09:23,013
Speaker 18: you know, now we have to be a bit just

1454
01:09:23,133 --> 01:09:25,132
Speaker 18: one as though, you know, not going out every weekend

1455
01:09:25,372 --> 01:09:28,612
Speaker 18: and being wastefuless money. But we found that it's actually

1456
01:09:28,652 --> 01:09:29,452
Speaker 18: been quite good for us.

1457
01:09:29,973 --> 01:09:33,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good on your bend, Thanks for thanks for sharing,

1458
01:09:34,013 --> 01:09:35,933
Speaker 2: and I hope you hope you go well. I mean,

1459
01:09:36,013 --> 01:09:38,492
Speaker 2: it's a great position to be in, being a couple

1460
01:09:40,612 --> 01:09:44,892
Speaker 2: without kids and moving into one bedroom buying one bedroom place. Yes,

1461
01:09:45,213 --> 01:09:48,012
Speaker 2: one place is much cheaper than the two bedroom, three bedroom,

1462
01:09:48,053 --> 01:09:50,652
Speaker 2: four bend. When it gets that's when things go right up.

1463
01:09:51,013 --> 01:09:53,013
Speaker 2: But that sweet spot when it's just the two of.

1464
01:09:53,053 --> 01:09:56,852
Speaker 3: You, good times, good memories, Max. Thank you very much, Mate,

1465
01:09:56,853 --> 01:09:59,372
Speaker 3: really appreciate it, and congrats mount eat a very nice spot.

1466
01:09:59,893 --> 01:10:01,293
Speaker 3: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1467
01:10:01,372 --> 01:10:02,213
Speaker 2: I live there myself.

1468
01:10:02,372 --> 01:10:04,293
Speaker 3: I know, That's why I said it. One hundred eighty

1469
01:10:04,333 --> 01:10:05,532
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call.

1470
01:10:06,173 --> 01:10:08,253
Speaker 2: Loads of people in Europe don't ever own their own home.

1471
01:10:08,333 --> 01:10:11,852
Speaker 2: And it's absolutely true, Beverly, It's a way we look

1472
01:10:11,893 --> 01:10:14,532
Speaker 2: at it. And this text of Patrick says, what Ben

1473
01:10:14,652 --> 01:10:17,133
Speaker 2: just mentioned, the renting dream is the basic Norman South

1474
01:10:17,173 --> 01:10:18,933
Speaker 2: Africa communal estate developments.

1475
01:10:19,173 --> 01:10:23,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and back to the original point of the

1476
01:10:23,133 --> 01:10:27,293
Speaker 3: equation of renting versus owning a house. And hats off

1477
01:10:27,333 --> 01:10:29,372
Speaker 3: to Max who's done it. But I've got to say,

1478
01:10:29,732 --> 01:10:33,092
Speaker 3: you know, when we bought our property in twenty twenty,

1479
01:10:33,412 --> 01:10:36,093
Speaker 3: and our mortgage was very, very good back then, but

1480
01:10:36,173 --> 01:10:39,213
Speaker 3: as the rate started to increase and insurance is bloody

1481
01:10:39,293 --> 01:10:43,253
Speaker 3: expensive now insurance is through the roof. Rates are crazy expensive.

1482
01:10:43,732 --> 01:10:45,812
Speaker 3: Just those little bits that start adding up and thinking,

1483
01:10:45,893 --> 01:10:47,932
Speaker 3: well far out, all of a sudden, this is costing

1484
01:10:48,013 --> 01:10:50,852
Speaker 3: a lot more than we thought it was going to cost.

1485
01:10:50,933 --> 01:10:52,852
Speaker 2: Day to day, Matt and Tyler, you're going to be

1486
01:10:52,893 --> 01:10:54,892
Speaker 2: paying seven fifty a week for the rest of your life.

1487
01:10:54,973 --> 01:10:57,772
Speaker 2: Did money plus where does the rent money come from

1488
01:10:57,812 --> 01:10:58,532
Speaker 2: when you retire?

1489
01:10:59,173 --> 01:11:02,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a good argument. Yeah, yeah, when you

1490
01:11:02,652 --> 01:11:05,652
Speaker 3: get to retirements and yeah, you're still having to rent.

1491
01:11:05,692 --> 01:11:07,612
Speaker 3: That is a big cost out of your pension.

1492
01:11:07,652 --> 01:11:09,852
Speaker 2: Although, to be fair, there are political parties in this

1493
01:11:09,893 --> 01:11:12,133
Speaker 2: country that'll be coming after you if your own a

1494
01:11:12,173 --> 01:11:15,372
Speaker 2: house and you're retired, they'll be coming after that, and

1495
01:11:15,412 --> 01:11:17,893
Speaker 2: they'll claim that it's that it's money that you have

1496
01:11:18,412 --> 01:11:21,013
Speaker 2: to be taken off you. Ben is paying seven to

1497
01:11:21,093 --> 01:11:23,612
Speaker 2: fifty per week i e. Three thousand a month. Yeah,

1498
01:11:23,732 --> 01:11:25,173
Speaker 2: I mean when you put it like that, I mean

1499
01:11:25,213 --> 01:11:28,213
Speaker 2: that's funny. When I say, such as the world Now,

1500
01:11:28,213 --> 01:11:30,772
Speaker 2: when he said it's seven fifty for his apartment he

1501
01:11:30,893 --> 01:11:33,772
Speaker 2: was renting, I was like, seems okay, Yeah, he's got

1502
01:11:33,772 --> 01:11:36,772
Speaker 2: a gym, swimming pool, prett nice Yeah, barbecue area.

1503
01:11:37,133 --> 01:11:38,293
Speaker 3: It's quarter to three.

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Speaker 1: A fresh take on Talkback. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams.

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Speaker 1: Afternoons have your say on eight hundred eighty eight US

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Speaker 1: Talks there be afternoon.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about renting versus buying. Apparently it is a

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01:11:50,893 --> 01:11:54,572
Speaker 3: renter's market out there at the moment, and some have

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01:11:54,692 --> 01:11:59,333
Speaker 3: made the argument that renting can be pretty imbalanced with

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01:11:59,412 --> 01:12:02,053
Speaker 3: owning a home in today's market. If you are reinvesting

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01:12:02,093 --> 01:12:02,892
Speaker 3: that money elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: A few landlords have texted throw and said rubbish rented

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01:12:06,492 --> 01:12:09,293
Speaker 2: ours out in New Plymouth easy a four bedroom eight

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01:12:09,372 --> 01:12:13,093
Speaker 2: twenty a week. A few land was saying there's been

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01:12:13,133 --> 01:12:16,933
Speaker 2: absolutely no problem at all the stixas his landlords have

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01:12:17,133 --> 01:12:19,213
Speaker 2: been charging very high rents for years, and now the

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01:12:19,293 --> 01:12:21,972
Speaker 2: market is settle. People aren't prepared to pay those high rents,

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Speaker 2: and with more properties available, they choose what goes comes around. Well,

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01:12:26,372 --> 01:12:29,012
Speaker 2: it's the market, isn't it. Yes, that's right, flying demands, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent, nothing wrong with that. Hey, guys, my

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Speaker 2: forty five year old son rents and will never buy.

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Speaker 2: He takes what he would have paid and mortgage and

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Speaker 2: puts it in an index fund. He assures me that

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Speaker 2: he's twice as well off as he would have been owning.

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Speaker 2: He has the freedom to follow his work anywhere. It

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01:12:43,093 --> 01:12:45,013
Speaker 2: always gets to live in a new property and never

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01:12:45,093 --> 01:12:49,253
Speaker 2: has to worry about rates, insurance, and maintenance. He's a

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01:12:49,333 --> 01:12:53,293
Speaker 2: software engineer focus on finance software, so I guess he

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01:12:53,412 --> 01:12:57,012
Speaker 2: runs the numbers. Kindest regards, Dave, Yeah, that does sound

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01:12:57,053 --> 01:12:59,372
Speaker 2: like the kind of thing a software engineer would do.

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01:12:59,492 --> 01:13:00,253
Speaker 2: Run the hard numbers.

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Speaker 13: On it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, get that in the index funds and get

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Speaker 3: that into the Excel spreadsheet.

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Speaker 2: But what if he wants to get out of sledgehammer

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01:13:06,853 --> 01:13:08,333
Speaker 2: and makes him indoor outdoor flow.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, where's his little slice of New Zealand that he

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Speaker 3: can call his own?

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Speaker 2: John your thoughts on this issue.

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Speaker 19: I think if you want to rent, and it's a choice,

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01:13:19,253 --> 01:13:23,772
Speaker 19: good for you. I have a son who's just ten

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01:13:23,933 --> 01:13:25,732
Speaker 19: twenty two, and he bought his first place when he

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01:13:25,853 --> 01:13:29,732
Speaker 19: was twenty one. He moved straight from home into owning

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01:13:29,812 --> 01:13:33,572
Speaker 19: his place. And it was modest. It's a three bedroom unit,

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01:13:33,973 --> 01:13:36,893
Speaker 19: two story, three bedroom unit. He's got a garage in

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01:13:36,933 --> 01:13:42,213
Speaker 19: a carport, and he was just focused on that, and

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01:13:42,772 --> 01:13:44,652
Speaker 19: he put up with living with his parents for that

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01:13:44,812 --> 01:13:49,412
Speaker 19: time because they were charging him virtually nothing in board.

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01:13:49,452 --> 01:13:52,093
Speaker 19: It was one hundred dollars a week. And I could

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01:13:52,173 --> 01:13:54,452
Speaker 19: see in him that he was focused and he wasn't

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01:13:54,492 --> 01:13:57,173
Speaker 19: splashing his money up against the wall, and he wasn't

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01:13:57,253 --> 01:14:00,213
Speaker 19: going out very often, once every two or three months.

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Speaker 14: And you know, I.

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Speaker 19: Think that if you want to buy a place, it

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01:14:07,173 --> 01:14:10,092
Speaker 19: must be very hard, even one hundred and fifty dollars

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01:14:10,133 --> 01:14:13,492
Speaker 19: a week and saving money even two of you on

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01:14:13,612 --> 01:14:16,812
Speaker 19: good on a good income, that's a fair chunk of

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01:14:16,893 --> 01:14:21,213
Speaker 19: your cash gone. And to get together one hundred and

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01:14:21,293 --> 01:14:25,452
Speaker 19: twenty or whatever it might be deposit that's a hard ask.

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Speaker 19: And you know it's always that first step that's the hardest,

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01:14:29,532 --> 01:14:33,492
Speaker 19: isn't it, because and you know not that you're away

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01:14:33,572 --> 01:14:36,492
Speaker 19: once you've started, but you certainly, as they say on

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Speaker 19: the ladder, that the choice of renting for life, it

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Speaker 19: would frighten me in terms of, yeah, what happens when

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Speaker 19: you retire, Well, you know you're going to have to

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01:14:48,133 --> 01:14:52,092
Speaker 19: you're going to have to alter your lifestyle considerably, probably

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Speaker 19: depending on what you're earning. Is And I still think,

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Speaker 19: probably old fashionedly, that if you can afford to get

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Speaker 19: into a place to that to that I wouldn't see.

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Speaker 19: I don't see renting as a choice. I see renting

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Speaker 19: as what I would do if I had if I

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Speaker 19: couldn't get into my own place.

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Speaker 20: You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Clearly, your son did well at putting money away, and

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Speaker 3: you helped him up a little bit with cheap board,

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Speaker 3: but would you have ever considered going in with your

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01:15:21,173 --> 01:15:24,372
Speaker 3: son on a property together, as in you're putting equity

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Speaker 3: into the home along with him.

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Speaker 19: He wouldn't have wanted that, and I know, you know,

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Speaker 19: it was never discussed. He was actually gonna he was

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01:15:33,492 --> 01:15:35,732
Speaker 19: actually gonna buy a place with his brother, but unfortunately

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01:15:35,772 --> 01:15:38,253
Speaker 19: his brother passed away, and so he just said, I

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Speaker 19: want this on my own.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 20: It's just that just that focus.

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Speaker 19: You know, we weren't the bank of Mom and dad.

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Speaker 19: They were able to tip on one hundred grand even

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01:15:48,133 --> 01:15:52,532
Speaker 19: for you know. So what we did was, hey, while

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01:15:52,572 --> 01:15:56,293
Speaker 19: you're serving your apprenticeship, you're living here for nothing. We

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01:15:56,372 --> 01:15:58,892
Speaker 19: could see that if he'd been wasting it and out

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01:15:58,973 --> 01:16:01,692
Speaker 19: drinking and all that well, you know, or spending his

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01:16:01,812 --> 01:16:04,572
Speaker 19: money wastefully, then that would have been a different There

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Speaker 19: would have been a different discussion had so in terms

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Speaker 19: of a bank of Mom and Dad, maybe we did

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01:16:10,173 --> 01:16:14,253
Speaker 19: it a little bit differently. I don't know, but yeah,

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01:16:14,333 --> 01:16:18,012
Speaker 19: it's I just feel for people. And I did the same.

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01:16:18,053 --> 01:16:21,093
Speaker 19: I left home and I started renting. But there was

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01:16:21,133 --> 01:16:22,892
Speaker 19: a long time ago and houses were a bit cheaper

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Speaker 19: I think in terms of a multiple of your annual income.

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Speaker 19: I just wanted very difficult. Now, seven hundred and fifty

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01:16:29,973 --> 01:16:31,452
Speaker 19: dollars a week going out and you want to and

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Speaker 19: you want to stick another five hundred at least in

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Speaker 19: the bank to say for your deposit. I don't know

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Speaker 19: how you do it, so I just my advice or

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01:16:39,333 --> 01:16:42,412
Speaker 19: suggestion to young people if you can, if it's okay

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01:16:42,492 --> 01:16:44,972
Speaker 19: at home, write it out for a while and put

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01:16:45,013 --> 01:16:46,253
Speaker 19: your money away while you can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks to you, cool John. This Texas is people

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01:16:49,093 --> 01:16:51,492
Speaker 2: paying off a mortgage, though who kind of disagrees with John,

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01:16:51,572 --> 01:16:54,093
Speaker 2: are largely paying interest only in a small amount of

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01:16:54,133 --> 01:16:57,733
Speaker 2: principle each month. Add the hugely inflated rates and insurance

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01:16:58,053 --> 01:17:00,772
Speaker 2: in a flatish market, and you're better off renting house

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01:17:00,853 --> 01:17:03,652
Speaker 2: rates and inflation as a scandal. The only advantage housing

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Speaker 2: has as an investment is the leverage from a rising market.

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01:17:06,692 --> 01:17:10,972
Speaker 2: If the market's not going up, then the people are stuffed.

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Speaker 3: Yep, sometimes that is true. Yeah right. It is six

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Speaker 3: minutes to three bag very short hair on news Talks.

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Speaker 4: Heb the issues that affect you and a bit of

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Speaker 4: fun along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons NEWSTALKSB.

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Speaker 3: News Talks. There B great discussion. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: This text see his guys rented by while building in

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Speaker 3: Mount long Anui in June twenty twenty three seven hundred

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01:17:37,492 --> 01:17:39,412
Speaker 3: and twenty five bucks for a small three bedroom, one

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01:17:39,452 --> 01:17:41,772
Speaker 3: bath unit and a block of three. Rent increases seven

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01:17:41,853 --> 01:17:44,612
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty in a year into the tenancy. In March,

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01:17:44,732 --> 01:17:47,452
Speaker 3: Landlord advertised at seven hundred and ninety five bucks. After

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01:17:47,532 --> 01:17:49,812
Speaker 3: one month they dropped the rent to six hundred ninety

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01:17:49,812 --> 01:17:52,492
Speaker 3: five as they couldn't let it. Oh all right, okay,

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01:17:52,732 --> 01:17:56,053
Speaker 3: all right, New Sport and weather on It's way great

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01:17:56,093 --> 01:17:57,652
Speaker 3: to have your company has always hope you having a

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01:17:57,692 --> 01:18:00,333
Speaker 3: great aft to know where we'll see you on the

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Speaker 3: other side.

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Speaker 1: Your new home are insateful and entertaining. Talk It's and

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Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons on News Talk Sebby very good Afternoons.

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Speaker 3: You welcome into the show. So singles tired of dating

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01:18:19,213 --> 01:18:22,173
Speaker 3: apps are discovering a different kind of partnership, one that

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Speaker 3: involves bidding, finessing, daring, and hopefully plenty of grand slams.

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Speaker 3: We are, of course talking about the card game Bridge

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01:18:30,213 --> 01:18:32,772
Speaker 3: it is and enjoining a revival, apparently with a younger

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01:18:32,812 --> 01:18:36,173
Speaker 3: crowd drawn to its social aspect, forming bonds, friendships and

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Speaker 3: sometimes even love.

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Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty ten eighty Is this true? Are

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01:18:40,812 --> 01:18:43,173
Speaker 2: you playing Bridge, and a lot of people are coming

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Speaker 2: to the Bridge to find love. I don't believe that.

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01:18:46,772 --> 01:18:49,372
Speaker 2: And it's through a little young people playing bridge? How young?

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Speaker 2: How young are we talking? Because Bridge traditionally as a game,

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01:18:52,772 --> 01:18:55,172
Speaker 2: people start around fifty.

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01:18:55,692 --> 01:18:57,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would almost be at the younger side. Wouln't

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01:18:57,973 --> 01:19:00,412
Speaker 3: it for Bridge players? I think when you get into

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01:19:00,452 --> 01:19:03,612
Speaker 3: the twilight years, then you join one of the Bridge

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01:19:03,652 --> 01:19:05,973
Speaker 3: clubs around New Zealand. Guess how many Bridge clubs there

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01:19:06,013 --> 01:19:10,012
Speaker 3: are in New Zealand? Two hundred Not quite that many,

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01:19:10,053 --> 01:19:11,932
Speaker 3: one hundred and eight, but that is a lot of clubs.

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01:19:11,973 --> 01:19:14,572
Speaker 3: That is a popular card game. But yeah, I mean

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01:19:14,652 --> 01:19:16,812
Speaker 3: reading this story and they gave some.

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Speaker 2: Examples, but I don't know if I buy it really Yeah, Well,

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01:19:20,772 --> 01:19:22,852
Speaker 2: what's so great about Bridge? Give us call eight hundred

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01:19:22,853 --> 01:19:25,972
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty? Why is it exploding? Young people

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01:19:26,053 --> 01:19:28,932
Speaker 2: flocking to it as a great place to find love?

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01:19:29,372 --> 01:19:31,772
Speaker 2: So how does it work when you find love and Bridge?

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Speaker 6: Is that?

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01:19:32,372 --> 01:19:35,692
Speaker 2: Do you hook up north south or east west? Because

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01:19:35,772 --> 01:19:37,652
Speaker 2: that's how the game's play, right, You've got to north south,

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01:19:37,772 --> 01:19:41,293
Speaker 2: east and west and north and south teammates and east

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01:19:41,333 --> 01:19:43,333
Speaker 2: and west. So are you.

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01:19:43,412 --> 01:19:44,133
Speaker 4: Going along with it?

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01:19:44,213 --> 01:19:45,972
Speaker 2: If you're in, you're going along with the north south

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01:19:46,133 --> 01:19:48,093
Speaker 2: and then you heading on the east west. Is that

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01:19:48,213 --> 01:19:48,732
Speaker 2: how it works?

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01:19:48,973 --> 01:19:50,692
Speaker 3: And then can you give them away sort of you know,

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01:19:50,772 --> 01:19:51,973
Speaker 3: foot seat under the table or.

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01:19:51,973 --> 01:19:54,532
Speaker 2: No, you definitely can't if they're on your team because

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01:19:54,572 --> 01:19:56,892
Speaker 2: you're not allowed to communicate because it's all about bidding

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01:19:56,933 --> 01:20:00,532
Speaker 2: for tricks, isn't it. So I don't know, you have

1675
01:20:00,692 --> 01:20:03,372
Speaker 2: to be incredibly smart to play bridge, well don't you.

1676
01:20:03,853 --> 01:20:06,492
Speaker 2: You got to got to have a lot of logic involved.

1677
01:20:06,853 --> 01:20:14,013
Speaker 2: There's heaps of memory involved, there's probabilities, it's it's it's

1678
01:20:14,253 --> 01:20:17,333
Speaker 2: it's a game where you could understand the rules, but

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01:20:17,452 --> 01:20:20,133
Speaker 2: then there's you can spend a lifetime getting better and

1680
01:20:20,452 --> 01:20:24,372
Speaker 2: better at it. And people will read bridge strategy books

1681
01:20:24,973 --> 01:20:29,253
Speaker 2: and they'll play, you know, test games, and then then

1682
01:20:29,412 --> 01:20:30,372
Speaker 2: then they'll tour the world.

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01:20:30,652 --> 01:20:31,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll see.

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01:20:31,372 --> 01:20:33,453
Speaker 2: I've got a friend who's touring the world playing bridge.

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01:20:33,253 --> 01:20:35,173
Speaker 3: Which is a fantastic life. So they just they just

1686
01:20:35,293 --> 01:20:36,532
Speaker 3: cruise around playing bridge.

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01:20:36,572 --> 01:20:38,492
Speaker 2: She texted me Yesterda and said, going to the Goldie

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01:20:38,532 --> 01:20:40,612
Speaker 2: for one game. It's not touring the world. Because we

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01:20:40,692 --> 01:20:42,333
Speaker 2: were going to talk about this topic yesterday but we

1690
01:20:42,612 --> 01:20:43,892
Speaker 2: didn't quite get.

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01:20:43,732 --> 01:20:45,852
Speaker 3: To it what a life though. But all I knew

1692
01:20:45,893 --> 01:20:48,933
Speaker 3: about Bridge for a long time was my nana loved it.

1693
01:20:49,053 --> 01:20:51,852
Speaker 3: She went down to the Bridge Club twice a week

1694
01:20:52,093 --> 01:20:54,973
Speaker 3: and she practiced in her own time alone, and she

1695
01:20:55,133 --> 01:20:57,772
Speaker 3: loved it. But that was all I knew about Bridge.

1696
01:20:58,333 --> 01:21:03,772
Speaker 3: And there's a couple of texts coming through absolutely adore Bridge.

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01:21:03,973 --> 01:21:06,612
Speaker 3: That was where I met my husband. Yes, I got

1698
01:21:06,652 --> 01:21:08,532
Speaker 3: into it a little bit later in life, at the

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01:21:08,652 --> 01:21:11,732
Speaker 3: age of forty eight. But it is a fantastic game,

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01:21:11,893 --> 01:21:14,093
Speaker 3: so much social aspect to it. Love it.

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01:21:14,612 --> 01:21:17,492
Speaker 2: Well, this this Texas is guys, Really Bridge? What a

1702
01:21:17,612 --> 01:21:19,413
Speaker 2: yawn old farts pastime?

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01:21:19,652 --> 01:21:20,452
Speaker 3: Right there we go.

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01:21:20,652 --> 01:21:22,133
Speaker 2: Well, you see, this is what I said to you, Tyler,

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01:21:22,452 --> 01:21:23,812
Speaker 2: I says to you when you wanted to talk about

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01:21:23,853 --> 01:21:26,652
Speaker 2: Bridge on the radio, I said, really Bridge, And you

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01:21:26,732 --> 01:21:27,692
Speaker 2: know does that excite you?

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01:21:27,973 --> 01:21:28,173
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:21:28,333 --> 01:21:31,492
Speaker 2: And what it's excited with you is the the the

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01:21:32,933 --> 01:21:35,892
Speaker 2: meeting of love and Bridge. And you've you've been brought

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01:21:35,933 --> 01:21:37,772
Speaker 2: in by this article that says that Bridge is the

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01:21:37,812 --> 01:21:38,293
Speaker 2: new Tinder.

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01:21:38,412 --> 01:21:40,932
Speaker 3: It's taken me in. You know, they've mentioned this lovely couple,

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01:21:41,133 --> 01:21:44,053
Speaker 3: Charlotte and Tyrell. They met at a Bridge club and

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01:21:44,173 --> 01:21:46,572
Speaker 3: fell deeply in love, and that just really took me in.

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01:21:46,692 --> 01:21:48,133
Speaker 3: That was a story that I could get behind, and

1717
01:21:48,213 --> 01:21:50,852
Speaker 3: I thought, who else out there in this beautiful country

1718
01:21:51,093 --> 01:21:53,093
Speaker 3: met at your local bridge club and fell in love?

1719
01:21:53,173 --> 01:21:55,973
Speaker 3: I reckon this. Heaps are couples, and I reckon this

1720
01:21:56,053 --> 01:21:56,652
Speaker 3: heaps of young.

1721
01:21:56,532 --> 01:21:58,612
Speaker 2: Couples as well. This is to be fair, I'm kind

1722
01:21:58,652 --> 01:22:02,652
Speaker 2: of with Craig here, But oh, eight hundred and eighty,

1723
01:22:02,732 --> 01:22:05,652
Speaker 2: ten eighty, what's so great about bridge? Can't tell us.

1724
01:22:06,572 --> 01:22:08,852
Speaker 2: If you're young and you've started playing bridge, we want

1725
01:22:08,893 --> 01:22:11,452
Speaker 2: to hear from you. And if you found love at bridge,

1726
01:22:11,452 --> 01:22:13,572
Speaker 2: we want to hear from you. But if you're any age,

1727
01:22:14,053 --> 01:22:16,692
Speaker 2: and if you're any agent B playing bridge and you've

1728
01:22:16,732 --> 01:22:18,492
Speaker 2: noticed a lot of young people coming into the game,

1729
01:22:18,772 --> 01:22:19,692
Speaker 2: I'd like to hear about it.

1730
01:22:19,853 --> 01:22:21,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty, sell it

1731
01:22:21,732 --> 01:22:23,852
Speaker 3: to us, the game of bridge? What is so special

1732
01:22:23,893 --> 01:22:26,213
Speaker 3: about the game of bridge? And the younger the better?

1733
01:22:26,532 --> 01:22:30,572
Speaker 2: It's proved to nasays like Craig and myself around Bridge. Okay,

1734
01:22:30,652 --> 01:22:31,812
Speaker 2: let's prove us wrong.

1735
01:22:31,893 --> 01:22:35,492
Speaker 3: Here we go. It is twelve past three. News talks

1736
01:22:35,532 --> 01:22:37,213
Speaker 3: there B we're talking about bridge clubs. There was a

1737
01:22:37,213 --> 01:22:40,892
Speaker 3: great story in the Herald about bridge players finding love

1738
01:22:41,333 --> 01:22:44,532
Speaker 3: at the local bridge club, and these were younger people

1739
01:22:44,612 --> 01:22:46,612
Speaker 3: finding love. But we want to take it a little

1740
01:22:46,612 --> 01:22:49,133
Speaker 3: bit broader than that because they mentioned Tinder and as

1741
01:22:49,293 --> 01:22:51,452
Speaker 3: many people who have been on Tinder know, it is

1742
01:22:51,452 --> 01:22:54,173
Speaker 3: a dumpsterfy Tinder is just if you're looking for long

1743
01:22:54,333 --> 01:22:55,492
Speaker 3: term love, Tinder is.

1744
01:22:55,532 --> 01:22:55,893
Speaker 4: Not for you.

1745
01:22:56,053 --> 01:22:58,012
Speaker 3: And same with a lot of those other online dating aps.

1746
01:22:58,053 --> 01:23:01,213
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, me and Dean who's texted through here, we're on.

1747
01:23:02,093 --> 01:23:03,812
Speaker 2: We support you taking this wider.

1748
01:23:04,013 --> 01:23:05,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah good, yeah yeah, so and this is going

1749
01:23:05,893 --> 01:23:08,052
Speaker 3: to be good because we got Tinder, we got bumble

1750
01:23:08,133 --> 01:23:11,093
Speaker 3: there is is it? Meetups is the other one? So

1751
01:23:11,412 --> 01:23:14,933
Speaker 3: a lot of pushback for those online dating apps and

1752
01:23:15,093 --> 01:23:18,253
Speaker 3: a lot of revival about joining these social clubs. So

1753
01:23:18,452 --> 01:23:21,732
Speaker 3: face to face interactions, and this is what this is about, right,

1754
01:23:21,812 --> 01:23:25,012
Speaker 3: It's not necessarily about playing bridge at your local bridge club.

1755
01:23:25,213 --> 01:23:28,532
Speaker 3: It is about meeting face to face with light minded people.

1756
01:23:28,652 --> 01:23:30,692
Speaker 2: Yeah this Texas says, I know you're Nana, she plays

1757
01:23:30,812 --> 01:23:34,173
Speaker 2: nudy bridge, always first to get her kid off. See people,

1758
01:23:34,173 --> 01:23:36,652
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to spice this topic up here. I'm

1759
01:23:36,772 --> 01:23:40,812
Speaker 2: just trying to put a bit of but okay, Tyler, yes,

1760
01:23:41,692 --> 01:23:44,692
Speaker 2: I'll zone in here. I think there is something in

1761
01:23:44,772 --> 01:23:48,692
Speaker 2: this and that going to places and doing things with

1762
01:23:48,812 --> 01:23:51,172
Speaker 2: people is a much better way to make a connection

1763
01:23:51,253 --> 01:23:54,572
Speaker 2: if you're looking for love than getting on the stupid apps.

1764
01:23:55,412 --> 01:23:59,572
Speaker 2: The stupid apps people are swiping right, it's incredibly swiping rights,

1765
01:23:59,612 --> 01:24:03,572
Speaker 2: they're swiping left. It's incredibly shallow way to try and

1766
01:24:03,652 --> 01:24:09,452
Speaker 2: find love. And it's and what happens is twenty percent

1767
01:24:09,492 --> 01:24:12,173
Speaker 2: of the people are just with Well, they do these

1768
01:24:12,173 --> 01:24:14,812
Speaker 2: surveys and they find that eighty percent of the woman

1769
01:24:15,293 --> 01:24:17,013
Speaker 2: just go with twenty percent of the men. Yeah, and

1770
01:24:17,093 --> 01:24:19,093
Speaker 2: so you just get these dudes that are going through

1771
01:24:19,412 --> 01:24:24,333
Speaker 2: and and sort of dominating the space.

1772
01:24:24,492 --> 01:24:27,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen the stats, and it's heartbreaking for a

1773
01:24:27,173 --> 01:24:29,333
Speaker 3: lot of those guys that are not in the in

1774
01:24:29,412 --> 01:24:30,173
Speaker 3: that twenty percent.

1775
01:24:30,492 --> 01:24:32,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so for like a guy like you that's

1776
01:24:32,933 --> 01:24:35,532
Speaker 2: under six foot who's got a great just it's got

1777
01:24:35,532 --> 01:24:38,652
Speaker 2: a great personality, I think, and over time, you could

1778
01:24:38,893 --> 01:24:40,612
Speaker 2: you know, when you've got to know someone, maybe you're

1779
01:24:40,612 --> 01:24:43,173
Speaker 2: playing you're playing bridge, you're part of a bridge club

1780
01:24:43,293 --> 01:24:45,412
Speaker 2: or something. They'd get to know you and they'd get

1781
01:24:45,452 --> 01:24:48,852
Speaker 2: to get to love you, but you might be swiped away, yeah,

1782
01:24:49,053 --> 01:24:50,412
Speaker 2: because they don't know how great you.

1783
01:24:50,452 --> 01:24:52,093
Speaker 3: Are and I just need time to wear someone down.

1784
01:24:52,213 --> 01:24:54,452
Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying? Oh, one hundred and eighty

1785
01:24:54,492 --> 01:24:56,013
Speaker 3: ten eighty. I mean, there's no doubt about it that

1786
01:24:56,133 --> 01:24:58,612
Speaker 3: there's been a massive pushback on the likes of tinder

1787
01:24:58,692 --> 01:25:01,173
Speaker 3: Bumble some of these other apps. Where do you actually

1788
01:25:01,253 --> 01:25:03,333
Speaker 3: meet people? Is there being a revival of hitting to

1789
01:25:03,532 --> 01:25:06,173
Speaker 3: the social clubs I mentioned meet up? I think that's

1790
01:25:06,213 --> 01:25:08,892
Speaker 3: a website you can go to and try and join

1791
01:25:08,973 --> 01:25:11,412
Speaker 3: a social club that's in your interest, you know, like

1792
01:25:11,492 --> 01:25:14,293
Speaker 3: a tram pink club or in this case, a bridge

1793
01:25:14,372 --> 01:25:16,973
Speaker 3: club or whatever it is that you're into. You can

1794
01:25:17,053 --> 01:25:19,572
Speaker 3: join up with these clubs to actually meet people face

1795
01:25:19,652 --> 01:25:22,492
Speaker 3: to face. There's no intention to find love, but if

1796
01:25:22,492 --> 01:25:23,732
Speaker 3: you happen to find love, good times.

1797
01:25:23,853 --> 01:25:26,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. This Texas says my dad used to

1798
01:25:26,253 --> 01:25:29,173
Speaker 2: play contact bridge. He was not an old fout. What's

1799
01:25:29,253 --> 01:25:29,932
Speaker 2: contact Bridge?

1800
01:25:30,013 --> 01:25:30,333
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1801
01:25:30,612 --> 01:25:33,293
Speaker 2: It's contact bridge, like got some kind of physical act,

1802
01:25:33,692 --> 01:25:35,572
Speaker 2: you know, like your north south east west and then

1803
01:25:35,652 --> 01:25:36,732
Speaker 2: there's there's a fight.

1804
01:25:37,293 --> 01:25:40,172
Speaker 3: Is that different to neody bridge bridge?

1805
01:25:41,572 --> 01:25:41,812
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1806
01:25:42,013 --> 01:25:43,372
Speaker 6: So, and like that.

1807
01:25:43,492 --> 01:25:45,772
Speaker 2: The whole thing with a social club is like you

1808
01:25:45,893 --> 01:25:48,293
Speaker 2: as you say, Tyler, Yeah, you know there's you go

1809
01:25:48,412 --> 01:25:51,213
Speaker 2: out and you meet people and initially there men may

1810
01:25:51,293 --> 01:25:54,213
Speaker 2: be no connection. You just get along and you're doing

1811
01:25:54,333 --> 01:25:56,372
Speaker 2: the thing, and that this could be the case for

1812
01:25:56,532 --> 01:25:58,692
Speaker 2: just I mean, this works as well just for finding friends,

1813
01:25:58,933 --> 01:26:02,772
Speaker 2: right if you're a bit lonely. Initially you're just going along,

1814
01:26:02,933 --> 01:26:05,412
Speaker 2: you're going the thing, but on a love a love

1815
01:26:06,293 --> 01:26:08,772
Speaker 2: and if love happens, if it sparks up, it might

1816
01:26:08,853 --> 01:26:11,492
Speaker 2: spark up six months after you've been going to the club.

1817
01:26:11,333 --> 01:26:13,093
Speaker 3: Because how else do you meet people? Now if you

1818
01:26:13,173 --> 01:26:14,893
Speaker 3: meet people at work, and if you can't find a

1819
01:26:14,973 --> 01:26:16,973
Speaker 3: love connection at work, how else do you do it?

1820
01:26:17,053 --> 01:26:19,812
Speaker 3: Because people aren't finding that connection in bars anymore, are they.

1821
01:26:20,412 --> 01:26:22,933
Speaker 3: Apparently it's very difficult that you know, if you're a

1822
01:26:23,013 --> 01:26:25,812
Speaker 3: fella trying to approach a woman, that can be very

1823
01:26:25,893 --> 01:26:28,293
Speaker 3: difficult because you come off as maybe a bit creepy

1824
01:26:29,213 --> 01:26:29,932
Speaker 3: on what you do anymore.

1825
01:26:29,973 --> 01:26:32,772
Speaker 2: Apparently people are siloed because of the apps, because people

1826
01:26:32,893 --> 01:26:39,012
Speaker 2: go out on dates, dates and just and from the apps. Right, yeah,

1827
01:26:39,053 --> 01:26:40,612
Speaker 2: and so the idea that you'd meet some of the

1828
01:26:40,692 --> 01:26:42,972
Speaker 2: bar has kind of disappeared for young people. It's seen

1829
01:26:43,013 --> 01:26:44,293
Speaker 2: a little bit creepy to come up someone.

1830
01:26:44,412 --> 01:26:46,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've joined

1831
01:26:46,933 --> 01:26:48,932
Speaker 3: a social club, how did you go about it? Did

1832
01:26:48,973 --> 01:26:51,333
Speaker 3: you manage to find a connection at the social club?

1833
01:26:51,532 --> 01:26:52,012
Speaker 3: And how.

1834
01:26:53,612 --> 01:26:55,612
Speaker 2: It's contract bridge not context.

1835
01:26:55,772 --> 01:26:59,053
Speaker 3: Ah, I'm so sorry, dear Texter. That was Matt's fault.

1836
01:26:59,133 --> 01:27:02,372
Speaker 3: You blame it for that. Scatchy's come back now again. Yeah,

1837
01:27:03,133 --> 01:27:04,572
Speaker 3: contract not context.

1838
01:27:04,893 --> 01:27:06,972
Speaker 2: I'm going to I'm going to start a sport called

1839
01:27:07,612 --> 01:27:08,333
Speaker 2: contact bridge.

1840
01:27:08,492 --> 01:27:10,133
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and how's that? I don't know.

1841
01:27:10,213 --> 01:27:13,013
Speaker 2: You make a bid on how many tracks you're going

1842
01:27:13,053 --> 01:27:15,732
Speaker 2: to get over six and part of the bid is that,

1843
01:27:16,133 --> 01:27:18,732
Speaker 2: you know, you get to slap you know if you

1844
01:27:18,853 --> 01:27:19,933
Speaker 2: lose this as slap, I don't know.

1845
01:27:20,133 --> 01:27:22,972
Speaker 3: This is like a hybrid between power slap and bridge. Yeah,

1846
01:27:23,173 --> 01:27:23,772
Speaker 3: I might take off.

1847
01:27:23,812 --> 01:27:25,412
Speaker 2: It's a hybrid between run it and bridge.

1848
01:27:25,492 --> 01:27:28,412
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

1849
01:27:28,412 --> 01:27:30,973
Speaker 3: to call if you've got off the dating apps? How

1850
01:27:30,973 --> 01:27:32,892
Speaker 3: are you actually meeting people these days? Love to hear

1851
01:27:32,933 --> 01:27:34,732
Speaker 3: from you. It is nineteen past three.

1852
01:27:39,013 --> 01:27:42,372
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. Call oh eight hundred

1853
01:27:42,452 --> 01:27:44,412
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZB.

1854
01:27:44,812 --> 01:27:48,572
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, and we're talking about where you met your

1855
01:27:48,652 --> 01:27:51,492
Speaker 3: significant other? This is on the back of people finding

1856
01:27:51,612 --> 01:27:53,772
Speaker 3: love at their local bridge club. But as we know,

1857
01:27:53,893 --> 01:27:55,572
Speaker 3: a lot a lot of people are turning off the

1858
01:27:55,772 --> 01:27:59,892
Speaker 3: likes of Tinder and bumble and trying to meet humans

1859
01:27:59,933 --> 01:28:03,093
Speaker 3: face to face again. If that's you, how did you

1860
01:28:03,293 --> 01:28:06,372
Speaker 3: meet your significant other? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1861
01:28:06,452 --> 01:28:08,732
Speaker 2: Well this Texas says I met my husband at a funeral.

1862
01:28:09,572 --> 01:28:09,812
Speaker 3: Wow.

1863
01:28:10,133 --> 01:28:13,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh. It's kind of like part of the

1864
01:28:13,372 --> 01:28:16,652
Speaker 2: plot to that movie Wedding Crashes, you know, with Vince

1865
01:28:16,692 --> 01:28:20,572
Speaker 2: Vaughn and Ron Wilson, and you know they've been going

1866
01:28:20,612 --> 01:28:24,133
Speaker 2: to the the weddings to meet ladies, and then they

1867
01:28:24,213 --> 01:28:27,293
Speaker 2: come across Will Farrell. Who's who's been going to funerals?

1868
01:28:27,572 --> 01:28:33,893
Speaker 3: Step above. Yeah, guys, mom me love high team. I

1869
01:28:34,053 --> 01:28:37,572
Speaker 3: asked out my kids day kid teacher. So far, so good.

1870
01:28:38,053 --> 01:28:38,973
Speaker 2: Are you allowed to do that?

1871
01:28:39,732 --> 01:28:44,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no patient client confidentiality when it comes to

1872
01:28:44,372 --> 01:28:45,293
Speaker 3: your kids teacher, is it.

1873
01:28:45,372 --> 01:28:46,812
Speaker 2: I think the day kid teacher is fine. I think

1874
01:28:46,853 --> 01:28:48,732
Speaker 2: it's It might be a little bit challenging if you

1875
01:28:48,812 --> 01:28:52,492
Speaker 2: start dating your high school kids teacher, is it? I

1876
01:28:52,492 --> 01:28:53,053
Speaker 2: don't know, is it?

1877
01:28:53,372 --> 01:28:53,612
Speaker 3: Wow?

1878
01:28:54,053 --> 01:28:57,333
Speaker 2: Well, my dad dated one of my high school teachers.

1879
01:28:57,492 --> 01:29:01,012
Speaker 3: Did he yeah, my mom, Oh right, okay, well that's okay,

1880
01:29:01,053 --> 01:29:04,053
Speaker 3: then that's okay. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1881
01:29:04,093 --> 01:29:06,173
Speaker 3: the number to call this texta sees guys. Both of

1882
01:29:06,253 --> 01:29:10,292
Speaker 3: my daughters and three nephews all met their collective husbands

1883
01:29:10,372 --> 01:29:14,213
Speaker 3: and long term partners via Tinder. So not all bad,

1884
01:29:14,492 --> 01:29:17,972
Speaker 3: but yes, many young people are trying to meet face

1885
01:29:18,013 --> 01:29:18,572
Speaker 3: to face again.

1886
01:29:18,812 --> 01:29:22,012
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this says I'm a marriage celebrant. Every second

1887
01:29:22,053 --> 01:29:24,572
Speaker 2: couple is a Tinder couple. But what we're saying is

1888
01:29:24,612 --> 01:29:26,732
Speaker 2: if say you were on Tinder and it's not working,

1889
01:29:27,133 --> 01:29:29,852
Speaker 2: so you're going out because these people that are texting

1890
01:29:29,973 --> 01:29:32,572
Speaker 2: us through have got at that there is a there

1891
01:29:32,853 --> 01:29:35,612
Speaker 2: is a there's a Tinder. There's an app fatigue where

1892
01:29:35,612 --> 01:29:38,492
Speaker 2: people just get grim. They just keep going out and

1893
01:29:38,532 --> 01:29:42,532
Speaker 2: they're meeting people and it doesn't work or they're getting

1894
01:29:42,933 --> 01:29:47,892
Speaker 2: you know, bad, bad encounters and they're just not finding

1895
01:29:47,933 --> 01:29:51,253
Speaker 2: love for a very very long time. And that's because

1896
01:29:51,893 --> 01:29:54,013
Speaker 2: you're kind of hooking with someone up with someone you know,

1897
01:29:54,093 --> 01:29:55,492
Speaker 2: like you're kind of meeting up with someone on quite

1898
01:29:55,532 --> 01:29:57,733
Speaker 2: a shallow set of parameters.

1899
01:29:58,173 --> 01:30:00,133
Speaker 3: It's a gamification of love. Is that really?

1900
01:30:00,213 --> 01:30:00,412
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1901
01:30:00,452 --> 01:30:04,132
Speaker 2: Exactly, exactly whereas all Tyler was saying, and to defend

1902
01:30:04,213 --> 01:30:07,253
Speaker 2: Tyler's point was that if you joined a club, then

1903
01:30:07,853 --> 01:30:09,532
Speaker 2: of any kind of thing, it could be a bridge,

1904
01:30:09,572 --> 01:30:13,372
Speaker 2: club could be anything. Yeah, if you join that, then

1905
01:30:13,973 --> 01:30:16,213
Speaker 2: over time you might make a connection and it's more

1906
01:30:16,253 --> 01:30:17,732
Speaker 2: real and you know more about them, and then you

1907
01:30:17,853 --> 01:30:21,253
Speaker 2: get a chance to show what you've got outside of

1908
01:30:21,452 --> 01:30:23,133
Speaker 2: just how tall you are and how hot you are.

1909
01:30:23,253 --> 01:30:25,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, and isn't that a better way to have an

1910
01:30:25,572 --> 01:30:29,412
Speaker 3: interaction with somebody that you do have a genuine conversation

1911
01:30:29,893 --> 01:30:32,412
Speaker 3: and they can't swipe your right and say, nah, don't

1912
01:30:32,492 --> 01:30:33,933
Speaker 3: like the look of your nose. You'll go on and

1913
01:30:34,013 --> 01:30:36,252
Speaker 3: on to the next one. Rather they've actually got a shot.

1914
01:30:36,372 --> 01:30:38,492
Speaker 2: Rather than sitting in a bar across the table from

1915
01:30:38,532 --> 01:30:40,852
Speaker 2: someone trying to impress them or get to the bottom

1916
01:30:40,853 --> 01:30:43,012
Speaker 2: of them quite quickly when you've arrived and you immediately

1917
01:30:43,093 --> 01:30:44,452
Speaker 2: know you don't like them, and this is a waste

1918
01:30:44,452 --> 01:30:46,532
Speaker 2: of time, and you're thinking about how quick you get

1919
01:30:46,532 --> 01:30:48,013
Speaker 2: out there, while the rest of the bar looks at

1920
01:30:48,053 --> 01:30:49,372
Speaker 2: you and goes, hey, look at that tinder date that

1921
01:30:49,372 --> 01:30:49,892
Speaker 2: looks awkward.

1922
01:30:50,013 --> 01:30:52,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1923
01:30:52,253 --> 01:30:55,093
Speaker 3: the number to call on the line. We've got Kate Terry.

1924
01:30:55,133 --> 01:30:58,093
Speaker 3: She is a board member at New Zealand Bridge and

1925
01:30:58,213 --> 01:31:02,173
Speaker 3: also traveling to China to represent your healing. Very soon, Kate,

1926
01:31:02,412 --> 01:31:03,293
Speaker 3: very good afternoon to you.

1927
01:31:04,333 --> 01:31:06,132
Speaker 15: Good afternoon, lovely to chat.

1928
01:31:06,492 --> 01:31:09,412
Speaker 2: Now, Kate, is are there a a lot more younger

1929
01:31:09,532 --> 01:31:10,972
Speaker 2: people joining bridge?

1930
01:31:12,572 --> 01:31:12,893
Speaker 18: You know what?

1931
01:31:13,013 --> 01:31:13,333
Speaker 5: There are?

1932
01:31:13,492 --> 01:31:16,612
Speaker 15: I think that as people think about mind sports, think

1933
01:31:16,652 --> 01:31:20,932
Speaker 15: about sports and events and games that really challenge them

1934
01:31:20,973 --> 01:31:23,133
Speaker 15: but they can do forever, We're starting to see some

1935
01:31:23,293 --> 01:31:26,812
Speaker 15: amazing young people come into the game and as that happens,

1936
01:31:26,853 --> 01:31:30,053
Speaker 15: of course they bring in more of their friends and

1937
01:31:30,213 --> 01:31:32,452
Speaker 15: other people see that they are young people playing bridge.

1938
01:31:32,492 --> 01:31:33,892
Speaker 15: So yes, absolutely, and.

1939
01:31:33,973 --> 01:31:36,253
Speaker 3: It's sorry, Kate brilliant to see.

1940
01:31:36,452 --> 01:31:40,133
Speaker 2: Yeah you go, oh no, sorry, But Kate young as

1941
01:31:40,173 --> 01:31:43,893
Speaker 2: a relative term. So when you say younger people coming in,

1942
01:31:44,133 --> 01:31:45,532
Speaker 2: what's young for a bridge player?

1943
01:31:46,732 --> 01:31:50,652
Speaker 15: Young for a bridge player in their lateeen's, early twenties, wow,

1944
01:31:50,933 --> 01:31:54,333
Speaker 15: and sometimes even younger you know some classes have Yeah,

1945
01:31:54,612 --> 01:31:57,412
Speaker 15: there is young. Yeah, yeah, there are some players who

1946
01:31:57,452 --> 01:31:59,852
Speaker 15: are definitely in that age bracket and a lot that aren't.

1947
01:31:59,933 --> 01:32:00,612
Speaker 3: But some that are.

1948
01:32:01,293 --> 01:32:03,012
Speaker 2: How smart do you have to be to play bridge?

1949
01:32:03,053 --> 01:32:05,932
Speaker 2: Because I've never played it? But just it's famously as

1950
01:32:05,973 --> 01:32:08,293
Speaker 2: you describe it, did you describe it as a mind game?

1951
01:32:08,853 --> 01:32:12,973
Speaker 2: It's mindsport, yeah, mind sport. It's you know, you can

1952
01:32:13,013 --> 01:32:15,333
Speaker 2: probably learn the rules to start with, but to go

1953
01:32:15,652 --> 01:32:18,612
Speaker 2: and be successful out of it, you have to be

1954
01:32:18,812 --> 01:32:19,532
Speaker 2: very smart, don't you.

1955
01:32:21,013 --> 01:32:23,932
Speaker 15: Well you have to have a love of cards, an

1956
01:32:24,053 --> 01:32:27,412
Speaker 15: enjoyment of people, be a bit competitive, and then take

1957
01:32:27,492 --> 01:32:29,652
Speaker 15: it on from there. I'm sure there's some very smart

1958
01:32:29,692 --> 01:32:32,013
Speaker 15: people playing bridge, but there's some people who just love

1959
01:32:32,093 --> 01:32:35,013
Speaker 15: the game and play it for enjoyment as well. So

1960
01:32:35,492 --> 01:32:38,133
Speaker 15: it's smartness isn't a prerequisite. It's more about a love

1961
01:32:38,173 --> 01:32:41,132
Speaker 15: of cards and a bit of a mind that solves problems.

1962
01:32:41,652 --> 01:32:45,253
Speaker 3: Have you seen any relationships blossom at your club.

1963
01:32:45,133 --> 01:32:49,132
Speaker 15: K oh one or two over the years and around

1964
01:32:49,333 --> 01:32:52,892
Speaker 15: the around the bridge circuit. Absolutely, and it's a beautiful

1965
01:32:52,933 --> 01:32:55,892
Speaker 15: thing to see. But as well as romantic relationships, which

1966
01:32:55,973 --> 01:32:58,652
Speaker 15: of course are awesome, one of the brilliant things about

1967
01:32:58,692 --> 01:33:01,572
Speaker 15: bridge is the social connection that gives people, and that

1968
01:33:01,853 --> 01:33:05,133
Speaker 15: is remarkable. And you know, people of every age who

1969
01:33:05,173 --> 01:33:09,412
Speaker 15: play the game, that social connection, that friendship is incredible.

1970
01:33:09,692 --> 01:33:11,492
Speaker 15: I mean, I'm lucky enough to have played bridge in

1971
01:33:11,492 --> 01:33:13,812
Speaker 15: a few countries and it's something you can do all

1972
01:33:13,893 --> 01:33:16,333
Speaker 15: around the world for many, many years, and you just

1973
01:33:16,452 --> 01:33:18,372
Speaker 15: meet some fantastic people doing that.

1974
01:33:18,933 --> 01:33:21,053
Speaker 2: Have you got the same bridge partner all the time?

1975
01:33:22,372 --> 01:33:22,412
Speaker 19: No?

1976
01:33:22,893 --> 01:33:27,493
Speaker 15: No, my bridge partner I'm playing within China lives in Wellington,

1977
01:33:27,933 --> 01:33:30,932
Speaker 15: so she and I are playing traveling later on today

1978
01:33:31,013 --> 01:33:33,692
Speaker 15: I am going out there, but I play with people

1979
01:33:33,812 --> 01:33:36,732
Speaker 15: here locally. And yeah, you play with different people in

1980
01:33:36,812 --> 01:33:40,253
Speaker 15: different events. And obviously you know, playing at the club

1981
01:33:40,412 --> 01:33:44,172
Speaker 15: here in Torona is different to playing the big tournaments

1982
01:33:44,213 --> 01:33:48,333
Speaker 15: and events, and the club Bridge just such fun, amazing people.

1983
01:33:48,933 --> 01:33:52,972
Speaker 15: They're actually there this afternoon. They'll be having their lovely

1984
01:33:53,093 --> 01:33:56,852
Speaker 15: Tuesday afternoon session, having a good time and then going home.

1985
01:33:56,933 --> 01:33:59,412
Speaker 15: And who knows, new friendship sparking at the table today

1986
01:33:59,492 --> 01:34:01,253
Speaker 15: perhaps Yeah, oh well it's interesting.

1987
01:34:01,372 --> 01:34:05,933
Speaker 2: And so look, how do I put this? Are you

1988
01:34:06,053 --> 01:34:10,972
Speaker 2: more likely to you know, succeed as as a romantic

1989
01:34:11,053 --> 01:34:14,933
Speaker 2: couple if you're a couple is north south you know

1990
01:34:15,093 --> 01:34:18,692
Speaker 2: that that sort of you know connection husbands and wives

1991
01:34:19,013 --> 01:34:21,532
Speaker 2: or whatever? The connection? Then if you're your friends, is

1992
01:34:21,572 --> 01:34:24,133
Speaker 2: there is an advantage and love being part of it?

1993
01:34:25,412 --> 01:34:26,612
Speaker 3: Well, as with.

1994
01:34:26,652 --> 01:34:28,692
Speaker 15: All of these things, it's yes and no, isn't it some.

1995
01:34:28,853 --> 01:34:32,612
Speaker 15: There are some fantastic couples who play amazing bridge together,

1996
01:34:32,652 --> 01:34:34,652
Speaker 15: I mean live in blair Fisher or off to China,

1997
01:34:35,372 --> 01:34:40,692
Speaker 15: and obviously Lessandra and Tim amazing their first international event

1998
01:34:40,973 --> 01:34:44,333
Speaker 15: coming up in China. And then there are some couples

1999
01:34:44,893 --> 01:34:47,293
Speaker 15: who perhaps it's best that they don't play bridge together.

2000
01:34:47,692 --> 01:34:51,532
Speaker 15: And there are other bridge partnerships with people who obviously

2001
01:34:51,652 --> 01:34:54,652
Speaker 15: good friends, who trust one another, who enjoy the game together,

2002
01:34:55,093 --> 01:34:58,853
Speaker 15: mother and daughter combinations, friends, all sorts of different combinations.

2003
01:34:59,253 --> 01:35:02,012
Speaker 15: But yeah, from time to time the couple who play

2004
01:35:02,093 --> 01:35:04,333
Speaker 15: well together just fabulous to see.

2005
01:35:04,692 --> 01:35:06,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, I've got a question for you. If you're

2006
01:35:06,652 --> 01:35:10,572
Speaker 3: north south, you also always north south? Or if you

2007
01:35:10,652 --> 01:35:13,652
Speaker 3: are a north south, can you flip to east west

2008
01:35:13,692 --> 01:35:14,852
Speaker 3: if you know you know what I'm saying? Or is

2009
01:35:14,853 --> 01:35:16,173
Speaker 3: that just where you're having to sit down.

2010
01:35:16,013 --> 01:35:16,452
Speaker 2: At the table?

2011
01:35:17,293 --> 01:35:19,133
Speaker 15: Depends on the format of the game. So for a

2012
01:35:19,173 --> 01:35:21,812
Speaker 15: club session, you'd stay north south all afternoon and you'd

2013
01:35:21,853 --> 01:35:24,012
Speaker 15: be visited by the east west pairs. They travel around

2014
01:35:24,053 --> 01:35:26,933
Speaker 15: the room, and in tournaments they often mix it up

2015
01:35:27,372 --> 01:35:29,213
Speaker 15: so that you might be north south in one session

2016
01:35:29,612 --> 01:35:31,812
Speaker 15: and then east west in another, so you'd be lost

2017
01:35:31,812 --> 01:35:33,532
Speaker 15: south for a period of time. But you definitely don't

2018
01:35:33,652 --> 01:35:36,013
Speaker 15: have to stay always in one seat or the other.

2019
01:35:36,213 --> 01:35:37,892
Speaker 2: Have you ever been in a situation where you're playing

2020
01:35:37,973 --> 01:35:41,412
Speaker 2: North South and then someone from the east starts heading

2021
01:35:41,492 --> 01:35:42,732
Speaker 2: on someone from the north south.

2022
01:35:42,772 --> 01:35:46,013
Speaker 12: If you know what I'm saying, I couldn't possibly come out.

2023
01:35:47,853 --> 01:35:50,133
Speaker 2: You definitely can't be doing it North South because that'd

2024
01:35:50,173 --> 01:35:51,732
Speaker 2: be some kind of would be seen as some kind

2025
01:35:51,732 --> 01:35:54,372
Speaker 2: of tricky communication, wasn't it. You definitely couldn't play foot

2026
01:35:54,412 --> 01:35:57,013
Speaker 2: seats under the table because if you were on the

2027
01:35:57,093 --> 01:35:59,612
Speaker 2: same team, because then that would be they would be

2028
01:35:59,612 --> 01:36:00,572
Speaker 2: seen as cheating, wouldn't it.

2029
01:36:02,173 --> 01:36:04,772
Speaker 15: Well, there are ways of the ways that that possibly

2030
01:36:04,853 --> 01:36:06,972
Speaker 15: would be. But I think you know, if the chemistry's there,

2031
01:36:07,053 --> 01:36:10,572
Speaker 15: then you've probably got the before the session, after the session,

2032
01:36:10,692 --> 01:36:14,173
Speaker 15: and manage manage the chemistry during during the session.

2033
01:36:14,372 --> 01:36:14,572
Speaker 14: Yeah.

2034
01:36:14,692 --> 01:36:17,652
Speaker 2: And final question, can you make a Can you make

2035
01:36:17,652 --> 01:36:19,612
Speaker 2: a lot of money touring and playing in different places

2036
01:36:19,692 --> 01:36:21,612
Speaker 2: and bridge tournaments? Is there a bit of cash involved?

2037
01:36:22,973 --> 01:36:24,852
Speaker 15: Not really in New Zealand. I mean we're some of

2038
01:36:24,933 --> 01:36:28,372
Speaker 15: our most amazing players. Michael Wibley, who's an incredible player,

2039
01:36:28,572 --> 01:36:31,652
Speaker 15: you know, bridge is pretty much his life. And Ashley

2040
01:36:31,692 --> 01:36:36,013
Speaker 15: Bark who's also bridge professional Nick Jacob. But in New

2041
01:36:36,093 --> 01:36:38,932
Speaker 15: Zealand there's not a huge market. But around the world, yes,

2042
01:36:39,013 --> 01:36:42,892
Speaker 15: there are people who make a lot of money as

2043
01:36:42,933 --> 01:36:46,372
Speaker 15: bridge professionals, and our very own Matthew Brown awesome player,

2044
01:36:46,812 --> 01:36:51,213
Speaker 15: also young and has been invited to prestigious international events

2045
01:36:51,333 --> 01:36:54,812
Speaker 15: with significant prize money. But for the New Zealand player

2046
01:36:55,293 --> 01:36:58,372
Speaker 15: typically it's a game you love and you're not really

2047
01:36:58,452 --> 01:36:59,652
Speaker 15: in it for the prize money.

2048
01:37:00,293 --> 01:37:03,372
Speaker 2: Good ddy, Well, good luck in China, and thank you

2049
01:37:03,452 --> 01:37:04,572
Speaker 2: so much for talking to us today.

2050
01:37:05,412 --> 01:37:07,652
Speaker 15: Thank you very much, and hopefully we'll have more people

2051
01:37:07,692 --> 01:37:08,173
Speaker 15: coming and join.

2052
01:37:08,612 --> 01:37:09,652
Speaker 3: Are you what's the great game?

2053
01:37:09,772 --> 01:37:11,732
Speaker 2: What's the best way to join bridge? If you're interested?

2054
01:37:13,253 --> 01:37:14,892
Speaker 15: Well, if you can't, look at the New Zealand Bridge

2055
01:37:14,893 --> 01:37:18,013
Speaker 15: website and playbridge dot co dot enz, have a look,

2056
01:37:18,652 --> 01:37:20,372
Speaker 15: talk to someone and we'll see at the table.

2057
01:37:20,532 --> 01:37:23,572
Speaker 3: Well just quickly, Kate, I know next to nothing about bridge.

2058
01:37:23,612 --> 01:37:25,572
Speaker 3: If I just turn up. Is there someone that you've

2059
01:37:25,572 --> 01:37:27,692
Speaker 3: got at the club who has to have the punishing

2060
01:37:27,772 --> 01:37:29,492
Speaker 3: job of trying to teach me how to play bridge?

2061
01:37:29,572 --> 01:37:31,492
Speaker 3: Or would you like me to school myself up a

2062
01:37:31,532 --> 01:37:32,892
Speaker 3: little bit before I turn up to the club.

2063
01:37:33,893 --> 01:37:37,133
Speaker 15: No, No, we actually have lots of lessons going on

2064
01:37:37,173 --> 01:37:39,452
Speaker 15: all around the country. So if you contact your local club,

2065
01:37:39,452 --> 01:37:42,013
Speaker 15: they'll tell you when they are and then people come

2066
01:37:42,093 --> 01:37:45,293
Speaker 15: along and learn together and then play together afterwards, which

2067
01:37:45,333 --> 01:37:45,973
Speaker 15: is fantastic.

2068
01:37:46,933 --> 01:37:48,492
Speaker 3: There you go, and maybe even fine love.

2069
01:37:48,652 --> 01:37:51,612
Speaker 2: That's Kate Terry, board member of New Zealand Bridge. There

2070
01:37:51,652 --> 01:37:54,133
Speaker 2: you go, Hey, listen to this text. My ex wife

2071
01:37:54,213 --> 01:37:55,692
Speaker 2: was a Bridge player. I had a long term of

2072
01:37:55,772 --> 01:38:01,932
Speaker 2: fear with another playing destroying another player, destroying both families. Wow,

2073
01:38:02,093 --> 01:38:03,333
Speaker 2: dodgy Bridge players.

2074
01:38:03,492 --> 01:38:05,572
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean, can you blame Bridge for that

2075
01:38:05,812 --> 01:38:08,013
Speaker 3: or you know that seems well to hear that.

2076
01:38:08,013 --> 01:38:11,812
Speaker 2: Dear, Well, well, Tyler, you're trying to sell Bridges a

2077
01:38:11,812 --> 01:38:14,492
Speaker 2: place to find love. Yeah, so what people go along

2078
01:38:14,532 --> 01:38:16,093
Speaker 2: to Bridge and they find love like this outside of

2079
01:38:16,133 --> 01:38:16,732
Speaker 2: their relationship.

2080
01:38:16,772 --> 01:38:19,452
Speaker 3: But I guarantee that was that was a northeast situation

2081
01:38:19,652 --> 01:38:23,452
Speaker 3: rather than clockwise. You know, there's some obviously some malachy

2082
01:38:23,532 --> 01:38:24,053
Speaker 3: going on there.

2083
01:38:24,133 --> 01:38:25,973
Speaker 2: You're basically promoting home wrecking.

2084
01:38:25,772 --> 01:38:28,732
Speaker 3: Here headlines with Windy coming up very shortly.

2085
01:38:31,772 --> 01:38:34,852
Speaker 10: Jus Talk said the headlines were blue bubble taxis, it's

2086
01:38:34,893 --> 01:38:38,492
Speaker 10: no trouble with a blue bubble patient voice. Altiroa says

2087
01:38:38,572 --> 01:38:42,012
Speaker 10: Health New Zealand's plans for reducing elective surgery wait lists

2088
01:38:42,293 --> 01:38:46,412
Speaker 10: will only overwork doctors already doing extra hours. The plan

2089
01:38:46,492 --> 01:38:50,732
Speaker 10: would move easier surgeries to private hospitals and incentivize public

2090
01:38:50,812 --> 01:38:55,092
Speaker 10: doctors to work more on more complex jobs. The Greens

2091
01:38:55,133 --> 01:38:58,412
Speaker 10: are standing up against plans to cull diversity and inclusion

2092
01:38:58,532 --> 01:39:01,892
Speaker 10: requirements from the Public Service Act, with Minister Judith Collins

2093
01:39:01,973 --> 01:39:06,372
Speaker 10: promising draft legislation in July. No more measles cases have

2094
01:39:06,452 --> 01:39:10,053
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2095
01:39:10,293 --> 01:39:13,532
Speaker 10: two supermarkets while infectious, as well as working on full

2096
01:39:13,572 --> 01:39:16,532
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2097
01:39:16,572 --> 01:39:21,293
Speaker 10: four year olds are fully immunized. Australia's Anthony Albanezi has

2098
01:39:21,372 --> 01:39:25,012
Speaker 10: again been sworn in as Prime Minister alongside his updated

2099
01:39:25,053 --> 01:39:29,572
Speaker 10: front bench, cementing their landslide election win. Police say the

2100
01:39:29,612 --> 01:39:33,133
Speaker 10: Firearms Registry is vital for tackling illegal gun markets and

2101
01:39:33,253 --> 01:39:35,812
Speaker 10: a Ministry of Justice review has showed it helps protect

2102
01:39:35,853 --> 01:39:39,572
Speaker 10: the public from harm. Plus the sleep trans experts think

2103
01:39:39,732 --> 01:39:42,532
Speaker 10: you should and shouldn't try. See the story at enz

2104
01:39:42,532 --> 01:39:45,333
Speaker 10: Aid Herald Premium. Now back to Matt and Tyler.

2105
01:39:45,572 --> 01:39:48,492
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy, and we have been talking

2106
01:39:48,532 --> 01:39:51,133
Speaker 3: about bridge, but the conversation has gone a little bit

2107
01:39:51,253 --> 01:39:53,692
Speaker 3: wider than bridge. We still want to talk to you.

2108
01:39:53,772 --> 01:39:55,133
Speaker 3: If you have a bridge player, what do you get

2109
01:39:55,133 --> 01:39:55,372
Speaker 3: out of it?

2110
01:39:55,412 --> 01:39:59,133
Speaker 2: I think you have been sucked in by clickbait the

2111
01:39:59,492 --> 01:40:01,133
Speaker 2: tyler with your story that you've turned up. You're all

2112
01:40:01,133 --> 01:40:03,892
Speaker 2: happy and excited because said that more and more people

2113
01:40:03,933 --> 01:40:06,093
Speaker 2: are finding love and bridge in its space and become

2114
01:40:06,173 --> 01:40:06,732
Speaker 2: the new tender.

2115
01:40:07,093 --> 01:40:08,253
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'll just go on.

2116
01:40:09,173 --> 01:40:13,052
Speaker 2: That's not playing out in the course. Well, lossand Terry

2117
01:40:13,093 --> 01:40:14,652
Speaker 2: didn't seem to think there was a hot bed of

2118
01:40:14,772 --> 01:40:16,812
Speaker 2: love happening, but we are finding that a lot of

2119
01:40:16,893 --> 01:40:18,732
Speaker 2: young people are playing bridge for that something.

2120
01:40:18,933 --> 01:40:22,852
Speaker 3: Yes, and it is incredibly popular one hundred and eight

2121
01:40:22,893 --> 01:40:27,412
Speaker 3: clubs around New Zealand. Guys. As a teenager in the eighties,

2122
01:40:27,452 --> 01:40:30,372
Speaker 3: I remember finding love under the tortator park bridge. Is

2123
01:40:30,412 --> 01:40:32,452
Speaker 3: that the same thing? Not quite?

2124
01:40:33,492 --> 01:40:36,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, See, this is misunderstanding. You know there is still

2125
01:40:36,372 --> 01:40:38,612
Speaker 2: people finding a lot of love under bridges, but not

2126
01:40:38,772 --> 01:40:39,892
Speaker 2: necessarily playing bridge.

2127
01:40:40,053 --> 01:40:42,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not a social clubs for that sort of thing.

2128
01:40:42,732 --> 01:40:44,093
Speaker 2: You know, if you grow up in a small town

2129
01:40:44,173 --> 01:40:47,532
Speaker 2: then aways there's often a lot happens under bridges and

2130
01:40:47,572 --> 01:40:48,093
Speaker 2: small towns.

2131
01:40:48,213 --> 01:40:50,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly, but if you are a bridge player, I

2132
01:40:50,412 --> 01:40:51,772
Speaker 3: love to hear from you on oh eight hundred and

2133
01:40:51,853 --> 01:40:53,733
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty.

2134
01:40:53,893 --> 01:40:56,572
Speaker 2: And also like we were running down tinder before, but

2135
01:40:56,893 --> 01:40:58,692
Speaker 2: this is Marx's high team. After a year and a

2136
01:40:58,692 --> 01:41:01,173
Speaker 2: half of difficult times like being scammed and robbed, I

2137
01:41:01,293 --> 01:41:03,852
Speaker 2: ended up meeting my partner of eight years at a

2138
01:41:03,933 --> 01:41:06,612
Speaker 2: flat I was basically homeless, living in my client's office.

2139
01:41:06,692 --> 01:41:09,173
Speaker 2: She was a waitress at a restaurant I went to

2140
01:41:09,293 --> 01:41:12,252
Speaker 2: a few months ago and she happened to be my flatmate.

2141
01:41:12,532 --> 01:41:15,012
Speaker 2: We are now engaged to get married and I'm flying

2142
01:41:15,093 --> 01:41:16,372
Speaker 2: to India in October.

2143
01:41:16,452 --> 01:41:17,773
Speaker 3: There you go, congratulations.

2144
01:41:18,093 --> 01:41:25,012
Speaker 2: There wasn't bridge Tyler. No, Andrea, Hello, Oh you started

2145
01:41:25,013 --> 01:41:26,452
Speaker 2: playing bridge when you were twelve years old?

2146
01:41:27,133 --> 01:41:29,893
Speaker 22: I did at school. We had lots of clubs on

2147
01:41:30,013 --> 01:41:33,173
Speaker 22: a lunchtime, so we had chess club and bridge club

2148
01:41:33,333 --> 01:41:33,852
Speaker 22: and everything.

2149
01:41:34,053 --> 01:41:37,253
Speaker 15: So I looked bridge at the age of twelve, and.

2150
01:41:37,333 --> 01:41:39,692
Speaker 22: I think, if you're good at maths, or you're good

2151
01:41:39,732 --> 01:41:43,333
Speaker 22: at strategically thinking who's got what you know in their hand,

2152
01:41:43,973 --> 01:41:46,093
Speaker 22: then you'd really enjoy it. And I'm sure it would

2153
01:41:46,093 --> 01:41:49,173
Speaker 22: be super social to meet people as well. So I'm

2154
01:41:49,253 --> 01:41:52,213
Speaker 22: going to rejoin the Bridge club next year. Not this year,

2155
01:41:52,213 --> 01:41:54,412
Speaker 22: I'm too busy, But next year I'll probably do a

2156
01:41:54,492 --> 01:41:57,173
Speaker 22: refresher course. I think they do lots of courses around

2157
01:41:57,173 --> 01:42:00,053
Speaker 22: the country and you can just start from scratch, So

2158
01:42:00,133 --> 01:42:02,053
Speaker 22: I'll just start from scratch and then I'm sure it

2159
01:42:02,093 --> 01:42:04,173
Speaker 22: will come back to me as time goes on. But yeah,

2160
01:42:04,173 --> 01:42:06,732
Speaker 22: I would recommend people go to bridge. I think I

2161
01:42:06,772 --> 01:42:09,012
Speaker 22: think it's a great social social skill.

2162
01:42:09,213 --> 01:42:09,412
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2163
01:42:09,732 --> 01:42:12,652
Speaker 2: Coomer's just texted. Actually, Auckland Bridge Club has a fifteen

2164
01:42:12,853 --> 01:42:16,253
Speaker 2: week learned to Play Bridge course starting seventeenth of July

2165
01:42:16,452 --> 01:42:17,652
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five the year go.

2166
01:42:18,213 --> 01:42:18,652
Speaker 16: Well there you go.

2167
01:42:18,893 --> 01:42:21,933
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, so I would recommend it anyway. Yeah, I

2168
01:42:22,013 --> 01:42:24,892
Speaker 22: think face to face is everything in a relationship. I mean,

2169
01:42:25,053 --> 01:42:27,492
Speaker 22: I'm not sure, and you also get to you've got

2170
01:42:27,492 --> 01:42:28,973
Speaker 22: to be able to sort of read your partner and

2171
01:42:29,053 --> 01:42:32,253
Speaker 22: what they're thinking when they call, what their cards have

2172
01:42:32,333 --> 01:42:36,253
Speaker 22: got in their hands, soorry, Yeah, definitely I would recommend it.

2173
01:42:36,492 --> 01:42:40,133
Speaker 2: So if that is the case, then should I be

2174
01:42:40,213 --> 01:42:42,572
Speaker 2: worried if my partner starts playing bridge that she might

2175
01:42:42,652 --> 01:42:44,053
Speaker 2: make a connection with another man?

2176
01:42:44,333 --> 01:42:46,213
Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, I would definitely go along.

2177
01:42:48,812 --> 01:42:50,612
Speaker 2: Don't let her go alone, So that would be a

2178
01:42:50,612 --> 01:42:53,333
Speaker 2: good motivation for me to take up bridge. She goes

2179
01:42:53,372 --> 01:42:56,492
Speaker 2: to bridge, She goes, I've met this. We've got an

2180
01:42:56,532 --> 01:42:59,572
Speaker 2: amazing connection across the table. I'll be like, right, I'm

2181
01:42:59,612 --> 01:43:02,013
Speaker 2: doing I'm doing the fifteen week course. Let's go.

2182
01:43:03,812 --> 01:43:05,932
Speaker 22: But if you do things as a couple, you also

2183
01:43:06,732 --> 01:43:10,052
Speaker 22: they when they say something or whatever to no trumps,

2184
01:43:10,133 --> 01:43:12,133
Speaker 22: you know what they mean by that. You know they've

2185
01:43:12,173 --> 01:43:15,173
Speaker 22: got a you know, an even spread or whatever.

2186
01:43:15,333 --> 01:43:15,652
Speaker 13: Cards.

2187
01:43:15,933 --> 01:43:16,293
Speaker 20: I don't know.

2188
01:43:16,452 --> 01:43:18,253
Speaker 22: I just think the more you play with your part

2189
01:43:18,293 --> 01:43:21,732
Speaker 22: of the same partner, the more you can, you know,

2190
01:43:21,853 --> 01:43:24,412
Speaker 22: tell each other what you've got in your hands without cheating.

2191
01:43:24,692 --> 01:43:27,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, well met was also an athlete, did you know, Andrea,

2192
01:43:27,732 --> 01:43:30,492
Speaker 3: which to bridge players, I imagine would be very sixy.

2193
01:43:33,372 --> 01:43:36,412
Speaker 22: I don't know, but I think you'd meet like minded

2194
01:43:36,452 --> 01:43:37,173
Speaker 22: people as well.

2195
01:43:37,893 --> 01:43:40,492
Speaker 12: You know, Yeah, that's right.

2196
01:43:40,572 --> 01:43:44,253
Speaker 2: And there's there's a basic standard of intelligence that will

2197
01:43:44,333 --> 01:43:45,732
Speaker 2: need to be to be able to do.

2198
01:43:47,133 --> 01:43:49,133
Speaker 22: You have to be able to count, and you have

2199
01:43:49,253 --> 01:43:51,012
Speaker 22: to be able to If you've got a great memory,

2200
01:43:51,133 --> 01:43:53,452
Speaker 22: then you'll be able to remember what everybody else has played,

2201
01:43:53,532 --> 01:43:54,973
Speaker 22: and then what you've got in your hand, you'd be

2202
01:43:55,013 --> 01:43:57,852
Speaker 22: able to work out what's left in their hands. Yeah,

2203
01:43:58,253 --> 01:44:02,253
Speaker 22: but I'm sure, yeah, it's quite easy to learn. But yeah,

2204
01:44:02,333 --> 01:44:04,253
Speaker 22: definitely a place of meeting people. I'm sure.

2205
01:44:04,572 --> 01:44:05,173
Speaker 3: I'll let you know.

2206
01:44:05,812 --> 01:44:11,452
Speaker 2: Please do okay, keep us up late, I wait, undred

2207
01:44:11,572 --> 01:44:13,852
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty will always take your call. Andrea, thank

2208
01:44:13,853 --> 01:44:14,333
Speaker 2: you so much.

2209
01:44:15,093 --> 01:44:19,213
Speaker 3: Well there you go, Matte. I mean, Andrea is a

2210
01:44:19,333 --> 01:44:21,612
Speaker 3: messive convert for a bridge. Well, she learned it when

2211
01:44:21,652 --> 01:44:24,173
Speaker 3: she was twelve, to be fair, but no doubt about it.

2212
01:44:24,253 --> 01:44:26,852
Speaker 3: In her mind, that is the place that love blossoms.

2213
01:44:27,053 --> 01:44:29,972
Speaker 2: Someone says yoga and or more moy Thai are great

2214
01:44:30,013 --> 01:44:30,932
Speaker 2: places to find love.

2215
01:44:31,933 --> 01:44:36,133
Speaker 3: Could I could see that because yoga, you you know,

2216
01:44:36,452 --> 01:44:38,812
Speaker 3: you were doing some some sixty things with your body

2217
01:44:39,173 --> 01:44:40,013
Speaker 3: sometimes if you got it?

2218
01:44:40,652 --> 01:44:43,213
Speaker 2: What, no, Tyler, If you're going along to yoga and

2219
01:44:43,293 --> 01:44:46,933
Speaker 2: then you're looking around, that's wrong. Are you one of

2220
01:44:46,933 --> 01:44:48,532
Speaker 2: those people that goes to the back of the class

2221
01:44:48,612 --> 01:44:49,892
Speaker 2: and sets up their matt.

2222
01:44:49,732 --> 01:44:51,452
Speaker 3: I've never been to a yoga class. I don't know.

2223
01:44:51,772 --> 01:44:54,093
Speaker 2: Just start having an eyefall of what's going on. That's

2224
01:44:54,133 --> 01:44:55,012
Speaker 2: not what yoga's about.

2225
01:44:55,093 --> 01:44:57,492
Speaker 3: I'm just judging what I've seen online and on.

2226
01:44:58,293 --> 01:45:01,972
Speaker 2: That is I'm actually I'm not easily disgusted by someone.

2227
01:45:02,213 --> 01:45:05,253
Speaker 2: But if you're planning to go along to yoga classes

2228
01:45:05,372 --> 01:45:07,852
Speaker 2: make people feel uncomfortable by staring at them while they're

2229
01:45:07,853 --> 01:45:12,612
Speaker 2: doing their they're downward dog, then you need to look

2230
01:45:12,612 --> 01:45:12,972
Speaker 2: in the mirror.

2231
01:45:13,013 --> 01:45:13,213
Speaker 6: Mate.

2232
01:45:13,213 --> 01:45:15,412
Speaker 3: If you've found love at yoga, I went hundred eighty

2233
01:45:15,492 --> 01:45:18,772
Speaker 3: ten eighty and let Matt know that is a good

2234
01:45:18,772 --> 01:45:21,693
Speaker 3: place to meet someone. Muy Thai as well, by the way, fantastic.

2235
01:45:22,692 --> 01:45:24,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I've done yoga and muy Thai and I've

2236
01:45:24,652 --> 01:45:25,652
Speaker 2: never met anyone there.

2237
01:45:26,093 --> 01:45:28,333
Speaker 3: No, no, well you weren't doing yoga probably will you?

2238
01:45:28,652 --> 01:45:32,532
Speaker 3: It is nineteen two four, eight hundred and eighty ten

2239
01:45:32,572 --> 01:45:34,572
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call love to hear from

2240
01:45:34,572 --> 01:45:36,812
Speaker 3: you if you're a bridge player, or if you found

2241
01:45:36,853 --> 01:45:37,412
Speaker 3: love at yoga.

2242
01:45:37,572 --> 01:45:39,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like sorry to all those people that have

2243
01:45:39,372 --> 01:45:42,173
Speaker 2: been ogre you know, ogled by Tyler at yoga sessions.

2244
01:45:42,173 --> 01:45:42,852
Speaker 2: It's not what it's about.

2245
01:45:42,853 --> 01:45:43,612
Speaker 3: We're all adults here.

2246
01:45:45,293 --> 01:45:48,652
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2247
01:45:49,013 --> 01:45:49,972
Speaker 1: everything in between.

2248
01:45:50,213 --> 01:45:53,452
Speaker 4: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks that'd be.

2249
01:45:53,652 --> 01:45:56,692
Speaker 3: It is sixteen to four. We have been talking about bridge.

2250
01:45:56,772 --> 01:45:59,373
Speaker 3: But you're a right mate, you look a little bit frustrated.

2251
01:45:59,612 --> 01:46:03,452
Speaker 2: I'm just totally you know, when you've been going back

2252
01:46:03,492 --> 01:46:05,973
Speaker 2: and forth with someone on like, you know, I was

2253
01:46:06,013 --> 01:46:08,532
Speaker 2: trying to order these new glasses yeap, because it was

2254
01:46:08,973 --> 01:46:12,932
Speaker 2: a shape that I wanted, and I got this email

2255
01:46:12,973 --> 01:46:16,053
Speaker 2: and it said, look, we don't have those glasses at

2256
01:46:16,093 --> 01:46:17,692
Speaker 2: the moment, blah blah, and it was a very nice email,

2257
01:46:17,692 --> 01:46:19,972
Speaker 2: and I went back and back and forth, and then

2258
01:46:20,372 --> 01:46:21,892
Speaker 2: I sent them a picture of the ones I want,

2259
01:46:21,973 --> 01:46:24,412
Speaker 2: which I want glasses that look like the Ones and

2260
01:46:24,452 --> 01:46:27,652
Speaker 2: the Kingsman movies because I think they look cool, very cool. Yeah,

2261
01:46:27,692 --> 01:46:29,372
Speaker 2: so I got excited about trying to get some Kingsmen.

2262
01:46:30,652 --> 01:46:33,732
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And then I just realized it's an Ai.

2263
01:46:34,692 --> 01:46:36,852
Speaker 2: So you feel like your heart's being ripped out of

2264
01:46:36,933 --> 01:46:38,812
Speaker 2: you because I thought I was having this friendly back

2265
01:46:38,853 --> 01:46:40,692
Speaker 2: and forth and I thought, how lovely this person has

2266
01:46:40,732 --> 01:46:43,412
Speaker 2: taken the time to communicate with me about this. And

2267
01:46:43,492 --> 01:46:46,173
Speaker 2: then and then they said thing at the end that

2268
01:46:46,213 --> 01:46:48,093
Speaker 2: made me realize, I've been talking to an Ai back

2269
01:46:48,133 --> 01:46:48,452
Speaker 2: and forth.

2270
01:46:48,933 --> 01:46:49,892
Speaker 3: Absolute fall.

2271
01:46:50,253 --> 01:46:53,492
Speaker 2: I know, I just feel like it just feels so hollow.

2272
01:46:53,812 --> 01:46:55,973
Speaker 3: But isn't that appt for what we're talking about right now?

2273
01:46:56,093 --> 01:46:58,532
Speaker 3: Human connets and forget about tender. Go down to your

2274
01:46:58,572 --> 01:47:01,812
Speaker 3: local Bridge club and play face to face rather than

2275
01:47:01,893 --> 01:47:04,293
Speaker 3: be like Matt and just chat to AIS on your

2276
01:47:04,293 --> 01:47:04,852
Speaker 3: phone all day.

2277
01:47:05,812 --> 01:47:10,173
Speaker 2: I feel betrayed. And people that companies that are running AI,

2278
01:47:10,532 --> 01:47:13,293
Speaker 2: they need to understand how how people feel when they

2279
01:47:13,333 --> 01:47:15,093
Speaker 2: find out they've been talking to AI. You feel like

2280
01:47:15,452 --> 01:47:17,452
Speaker 2: you've had the rug pulled out from you, like you're

2281
01:47:17,492 --> 01:47:19,852
Speaker 2: being tricked, Like they've been playing a parlor trick on you,

2282
01:47:19,973 --> 01:47:22,732
Speaker 2: and you're you're the object of the joke. Yeah, because

2283
01:47:22,772 --> 01:47:25,253
Speaker 2: they because they've it's obviously been programmed to be very friendly,

2284
01:47:25,372 --> 01:47:27,253
Speaker 2: so you feel like you've got a connection. Yeah.

2285
01:47:27,333 --> 01:47:27,492
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2286
01:47:27,612 --> 01:47:29,612
Speaker 3: What happened when you asked for the Colin Firth classes?

2287
01:47:29,652 --> 01:47:29,812
Speaker 6: Did it?

2288
01:47:29,893 --> 01:47:31,852
Speaker 3: Did it come back with laughing emojis? And that's when

2289
01:47:31,853 --> 01:47:32,892
Speaker 3: you figured out it was an AI.

2290
01:47:33,333 --> 01:47:35,692
Speaker 2: No, it came back and said I sent a picture

2291
01:47:35,853 --> 01:47:38,532
Speaker 2: through of the Colin Firth's classes and then and it said,

2292
01:47:39,492 --> 01:47:43,253
Speaker 2: we can't I can't look at that. I'm like, why

2293
01:47:43,293 --> 01:47:44,412
Speaker 2: can't you look at that? I mean it could be

2294
01:47:44,412 --> 01:47:46,572
Speaker 2: a blind person. To be fair, maybe I've been not

2295
01:47:46,692 --> 01:47:52,732
Speaker 2: fair anyway. Anyway, Tyroll, welcome to the show. You Found

2296
01:47:52,812 --> 01:47:54,013
Speaker 2: Love at Bridge.

2297
01:47:54,652 --> 01:47:58,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, good guys, that's right, fantastic A bit.

2298
01:47:58,372 --> 01:48:00,972
Speaker 17: Of a roundabout way though. So I started playing bridge

2299
01:48:01,053 --> 01:48:02,933
Speaker 17: like your last fool a fairly earlier, but it was

2300
01:48:02,973 --> 01:48:05,572
Speaker 17: because my old man he was well into it. He

2301
01:48:05,732 --> 01:48:08,612
Speaker 17: loved bridge, but it was a bit too intense, and

2302
01:48:08,692 --> 01:48:10,932
Speaker 17: so it's a partnership game, so he kind of burnt

2303
01:48:10,973 --> 01:48:14,412
Speaker 17: through a few partners old enough, he thought, oh, you know,

2304
01:48:14,532 --> 01:48:14,933
Speaker 17: here we go.

2305
01:48:17,853 --> 01:48:20,452
Speaker 3: And so how did you get into the sport originally, Tyrell?

2306
01:48:20,532 --> 01:48:23,372
Speaker 3: Were you always a bit fascinated with bridge or how

2307
01:48:23,412 --> 01:48:24,093
Speaker 3: did that come about?

2308
01:48:25,093 --> 01:48:25,293
Speaker 19: Well?

2309
01:48:25,532 --> 01:48:27,732
Speaker 17: No, I was My old man loved it's you know,

2310
01:48:27,772 --> 01:48:29,333
Speaker 17: as soon as I was old enough, he said all right,

2311
01:48:29,372 --> 01:48:31,133
Speaker 17: here's a book learning this and we'll take you down

2312
01:48:31,173 --> 01:48:33,492
Speaker 17: to the club. And then the next for you know,

2313
01:48:33,612 --> 01:48:35,333
Speaker 17: eight to ten years, he just dragged me up and

2314
01:48:35,372 --> 01:48:37,572
Speaker 17: down the countryside, getting pretty good. So I got quite

2315
01:48:37,612 --> 01:48:40,372
Speaker 17: good at bridge quite early, you know. And then and

2316
01:48:40,452 --> 01:48:43,213
Speaker 17: then I got my sort of late teens early twenties

2317
01:48:43,253 --> 01:48:46,492
Speaker 17: and I thought, all shit, baby, bridge isn't what I'd

2318
01:48:46,572 --> 01:48:48,812
Speaker 17: be doing with the time. But anyway, fast forward a

2319
01:48:48,853 --> 01:48:52,093
Speaker 17: few years and I was at a Thames tournament with him.

2320
01:48:52,093 --> 01:48:53,772
Speaker 17: Because every now and then i'd still ring him up

2321
01:48:53,812 --> 01:48:55,932
Speaker 17: and would have a game. Yeah, and then I saw

2322
01:48:56,173 --> 01:48:59,293
Speaker 17: I saw now my wife, you know, playing bridge, and

2323
01:48:59,612 --> 01:49:01,173
Speaker 17: I wanted to go and talk to her. After that,

2324
01:49:01,293 --> 01:49:03,213
Speaker 17: she just took off. She was gone, she was she's

2325
01:49:03,253 --> 01:49:04,173
Speaker 17: played her cards and she.

2326
01:49:06,053 --> 01:49:08,253
Speaker 2: Was at she was at another table. Not she wasn't

2327
01:49:08,692 --> 01:49:09,253
Speaker 2: you know, you went.

2328
01:49:09,213 --> 01:49:12,173
Speaker 17: Playing in another team. I dodn't end up playing her.

2329
01:49:12,572 --> 01:49:15,053
Speaker 17: But then a week later I was on Tinder and

2330
01:49:15,093 --> 01:49:18,812
Speaker 17: then I came across it. You know, we swiped and

2331
01:49:19,013 --> 01:49:20,933
Speaker 17: we had a match and I said, you know, the

2332
01:49:21,013 --> 01:49:22,732
Speaker 17: first thing I said is did I see you at

2333
01:49:22,853 --> 01:49:26,452
Speaker 17: the bridge tournament last weekend? And that was it, And

2334
01:49:26,572 --> 01:49:29,652
Speaker 17: that was it. So she bridge bridges like chess. You've

2335
01:49:29,692 --> 01:49:31,893
Speaker 17: got kind of points, you know, you've got a like

2336
01:49:32,013 --> 01:49:34,092
Speaker 17: a rating system. And so she was on the internet

2337
01:49:34,173 --> 01:49:36,572
Speaker 17: straight away seeing how many points they got and thought,

2338
01:49:38,372 --> 01:49:40,532
Speaker 17: if it's the bill that term and that was the

2339
01:49:40,612 --> 01:49:41,372
Speaker 17: rest is history.

2340
01:49:41,572 --> 01:49:43,412
Speaker 2: So this is a beautiful story. This is a hybrid

2341
01:49:43,532 --> 01:49:46,133
Speaker 2: between you know, finding love and the digital age on

2342
01:49:46,213 --> 01:49:49,572
Speaker 2: the apps and and the real the real will part

2343
01:49:49,612 --> 01:49:51,572
Speaker 2: of it because in the old days you might have

2344
01:49:51,652 --> 01:49:55,333
Speaker 2: seen this this perfect person and they just walk off

2345
01:49:55,372 --> 01:49:57,053
Speaker 2: and they've got no way to find them. And it

2346
01:49:57,093 --> 01:49:59,772
Speaker 2: would break your heart. Are you living in a smallish area.

2347
01:50:01,532 --> 01:50:03,652
Speaker 17: Yeah, well we're in Tadaha now.

2348
01:50:03,732 --> 01:50:07,213
Speaker 2: And when when you when you found the match, because

2349
01:50:07,293 --> 01:50:07,652
Speaker 2: you know, like.

2350
01:50:07,692 --> 01:50:10,692
Speaker 17: If you I was, I was actually living on a boat.

2351
01:50:10,853 --> 01:50:12,892
Speaker 17: I brought a boat after Union. I try to sail

2352
01:50:12,893 --> 01:50:15,852
Speaker 17: it around the country and unsuccessfully on my add but

2353
01:50:15,933 --> 01:50:18,213
Speaker 17: I was packed up in song Matar. I think she

2354
01:50:18,333 --> 01:50:21,133
Speaker 17: had a back Tyra. So it was it was quite

2355
01:50:21,213 --> 01:50:23,213
Speaker 17: lucky that the radius is overlapped.

2356
01:50:23,532 --> 01:50:26,892
Speaker 2: So you were just just traveling around your boat, firing

2357
01:50:26,973 --> 01:50:29,812
Speaker 2: up your tinder and finding a new catchment area.

2358
01:50:31,933 --> 01:50:32,732
Speaker 17: Yeah, something like that.

2359
01:50:32,893 --> 01:50:34,412
Speaker 3: This is a beautiful wrong com situation.

2360
01:50:34,812 --> 01:50:37,253
Speaker 2: Just to drill in a little bit further to your story, Tyrell.

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01:50:37,732 --> 01:50:40,173
Speaker 2: So but when you where had you seen her at bridge?

2362
01:50:40,213 --> 01:50:40,372
Speaker 13: It was?

2363
01:50:40,532 --> 01:50:41,973
Speaker 2: Was it in that area that you were on the

2364
01:50:41,973 --> 01:50:43,933
Speaker 2: boat that you've seen her at bridge in?

2365
01:50:44,452 --> 01:50:44,892
Speaker 17: Yah?

2366
01:50:44,933 --> 01:50:45,133
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2367
01:50:45,452 --> 01:50:47,532
Speaker 2: Okay, So yeah, and you fight up there's there. What

2368
01:50:47,612 --> 01:50:49,652
Speaker 2: a beautiful story and it's still going strong. Are you

2369
01:50:49,732 --> 01:50:52,333
Speaker 2: partners together now in terms.

2370
01:50:52,133 --> 01:50:53,812
Speaker 13: Of the bridge and we.

2371
01:50:55,452 --> 01:50:57,732
Speaker 17: Yeah, And we were teach the lessons now at the

2372
01:50:57,812 --> 01:51:00,173
Speaker 17: local club as well for a number of years.

2373
01:51:00,572 --> 01:51:02,572
Speaker 3: So I take it she didn't put bridge player on

2374
01:51:02,652 --> 01:51:05,372
Speaker 3: her Tinder profile. It was just luck that you saw

2375
01:51:05,372 --> 01:51:05,892
Speaker 3: her that night.

2376
01:51:06,973 --> 01:51:09,133
Speaker 17: Yeah, I just I don't think putting Bridge on your

2377
01:51:09,173 --> 01:51:11,412
Speaker 17: tender profile is the way to go if you're.

2378
01:51:11,293 --> 01:51:19,452
Speaker 2: Looking to you sure, And what's the name of your

2379
01:51:19,652 --> 01:51:22,093
Speaker 2: the bridge club that you're that you're involved in.

2380
01:51:23,093 --> 01:51:24,372
Speaker 17: So Tiatah Bridge Club.

2381
01:51:24,732 --> 01:51:27,093
Speaker 2: Chada have Bridge Club? Okay? So and so you've got

2382
01:51:27,133 --> 01:51:28,732
Speaker 2: spaces for people to sign up if they want to.

2383
01:51:29,133 --> 01:51:32,333
Speaker 17: Yeah, anyone's interested, they just they can. They can sort

2384
01:51:32,333 --> 01:51:34,852
Speaker 17: of Google search it and there'll be a poster or

2385
01:51:34,933 --> 01:51:37,053
Speaker 17: a name or a number will pop up and just

2386
01:51:37,213 --> 01:51:39,293
Speaker 17: reach out. And so we're we're halfway through our kind

2387
01:51:39,293 --> 01:51:41,812
Speaker 17: of ten week lessons now and yeah, as I said,

2388
01:51:41,893 --> 01:51:44,173
Speaker 17: third year running and it's going strong. We're adding adding

2389
01:51:44,412 --> 01:51:46,053
Speaker 17: a good number of people to the club each year.

2390
01:51:46,093 --> 01:51:48,173
Speaker 17: It's one of if i'd say New Zealand's fastest growing

2391
01:51:48,253 --> 01:51:49,932
Speaker 17: clubs and definitely one of the most friendly.

2392
01:51:50,253 --> 01:51:52,053
Speaker 2: And it's can you guarantee that you'll see the girl

2393
01:51:52,133 --> 01:51:52,812
Speaker 2: of your dreams there?

2394
01:51:53,173 --> 01:51:56,892
Speaker 17: I mean it is Tiataha, Yes, depending on how vivid

2395
01:51:56,933 --> 01:52:00,093
Speaker 17: your dreams are, want to get to a certain age,

2396
01:52:00,133 --> 01:52:03,053
Speaker 17: husband start dropping off. So there is an eligible call,

2397
01:52:03,133 --> 01:52:05,132
Speaker 17: but it's in a demographic that I don't.

2398
01:52:04,893 --> 01:52:05,692
Speaker 14: Know suits everyone.

2399
01:52:05,853 --> 01:52:06,773
Speaker 3: It's a good disclaimer.

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01:52:07,093 --> 01:52:09,492
Speaker 2: Well, someone was texting through and you might be able

2401
01:52:09,532 --> 01:52:11,213
Speaker 2: to know if this is true that there's a twenty

2402
01:52:11,253 --> 01:52:13,093
Speaker 2: one year old man and an eighty three year old

2403
01:52:13,093 --> 01:52:15,572
Speaker 2: woman representing New Zealand in the mixed doubles in the world.

2404
01:52:15,652 --> 01:52:16,333
Speaker 2: Is that true?

2405
01:52:17,293 --> 01:52:20,053
Speaker 17: Yeah, And so the eighty four year old came out

2406
01:52:20,093 --> 01:52:22,972
Speaker 17: of retirement to play. She's kind of been quite well

2407
01:52:23,013 --> 01:52:24,973
Speaker 17: known in the Bridge circus. Jane Cormack, I think your

2408
01:52:25,053 --> 01:52:28,053
Speaker 17: name was all right, but yeah, you get you get

2409
01:52:28,053 --> 01:52:30,293
Speaker 17: all sorts of kind of combinations going on a bridge.

2410
01:52:30,612 --> 01:52:32,893
Speaker 2: Well, look, I am so happy for you and you

2411
01:52:33,133 --> 01:52:36,293
Speaker 2: and your lovely partner that you found love through bridge.

2412
01:52:36,333 --> 01:52:37,452
Speaker 2: What a fantastic story.

2413
01:52:38,973 --> 01:52:41,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, awesome, all right, Tyrell, thank you very much. And

2414
01:52:42,013 --> 01:52:42,333
Speaker 3: there you go.

2415
01:52:42,452 --> 01:52:45,132
Speaker 2: Matsy. I told you you're right. It took you fifty

2416
01:52:45,213 --> 01:52:46,213
Speaker 2: one minutes to get it.

2417
01:52:46,333 --> 01:52:48,492
Speaker 3: It's prevalent out there. There's a lot of people fighting

2418
01:52:48,572 --> 01:52:50,412
Speaker 3: love at Bridge with a little bit of Tinder in

2419
01:52:50,452 --> 01:52:52,173
Speaker 3: the mix as well. And that's, you know, that's what

2420
01:52:52,293 --> 01:52:55,772
Speaker 3: we do on the show. Just beautiful, maybe calm style stories.

2421
01:52:55,973 --> 01:52:59,053
Speaker 2: Maybe that sounds like a rom com what you'd call it.

2422
01:52:59,253 --> 01:53:01,492
Speaker 2: I guess you'd call it bridgeton, wouldn't.

2423
01:53:02,333 --> 01:53:05,052
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you think of a title for Tyrell's romcom

2424
01:53:05,173 --> 01:53:08,213
Speaker 3: involving a man on a boat and bridge and tinder.

2425
01:53:08,053 --> 01:53:14,772
Speaker 2: Which tricks north south east west, I don't know. We'll

2426
01:53:14,812 --> 01:53:15,173
Speaker 2: work on that.

2427
01:53:15,372 --> 01:53:18,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get beat to you on that one. She

2428
01:53:18,253 --> 01:53:22,412
Speaker 3: suits you, that's pretty good. Actually, yeah, she suits you? Yeah?

2429
01:53:22,612 --> 01:53:23,492
Speaker 2: All right, okay.

2430
01:53:24,772 --> 01:53:26,173
Speaker 3: Eight is the number to call.

2431
01:53:26,173 --> 01:53:28,213
Speaker 2: Someone might be able to answer this question. Is there

2432
01:53:28,293 --> 01:53:30,732
Speaker 2: any are there any bridge clubs in Nelson?

2433
01:53:31,412 --> 01:53:34,253
Speaker 3: Surely if you're if you're a bridge player in Nelson.

2434
01:53:34,053 --> 01:53:36,052
Speaker 2: Nine two nine two, I don't have any fingers to google.

2435
01:53:36,293 --> 01:53:37,412
Speaker 3: It is eight to four.

2436
01:53:39,053 --> 01:53:42,412
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2437
01:53:42,772 --> 01:53:43,692
Speaker 1: everything in between.

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01:53:43,933 --> 01:53:46,772
Speaker 4: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News.

2439
01:53:46,612 --> 01:53:51,173
Speaker 3: Talk zed B, News Talk, zed B. Denise, how are

2440
01:53:51,173 --> 01:53:51,892
Speaker 3: you this afternoon?

2441
01:53:52,412 --> 01:53:52,452
Speaker 18: No?

2442
01:53:52,572 --> 01:53:54,253
Speaker 23: Now, I'm going to be really quick.

2443
01:53:54,372 --> 01:53:54,572
Speaker 3: Yep.

2444
01:53:54,732 --> 01:53:58,892
Speaker 23: Okay. So I met my husband through my through his dog.

2445
01:53:59,452 --> 01:54:01,772
Speaker 23: He came to live next door. I hadn't met him,

2446
01:54:02,093 --> 01:54:04,293
Speaker 23: and he was on night shifts and every night his

2447
01:54:04,492 --> 01:54:07,772
Speaker 23: dog would be outside crying, and I'm a dog lover.

2448
01:54:08,133 --> 01:54:10,732
Speaker 23: I get in my dressing gown, go down next door,

2449
01:54:10,893 --> 01:54:13,013
Speaker 23: pick his dog up and take him into bed with me.

2450
01:54:13,492 --> 01:54:15,933
Speaker 23: And that happened for about three weeks, and in the

2451
01:54:16,013 --> 01:54:18,972
Speaker 23: mornings he'd come home, call the dog, the dog would

2452
01:54:19,013 --> 01:54:23,293
Speaker 23: come to him. Three weeks later, he got home, called

2453
01:54:23,372 --> 01:54:25,652
Speaker 23: the dog, the dog didn't come. I woke up in

2454
01:54:25,732 --> 01:54:27,852
Speaker 23: the morning. He was in bed with me and the

2455
01:54:27,973 --> 01:54:30,732
Speaker 23: dog in the middle. And that's the end of the story.

2456
01:54:31,213 --> 01:54:32,373
Speaker 3: Oh, that is lovely.

2457
01:54:34,253 --> 01:54:36,733
Speaker 2: But eventually, eventually the dog wasn't in the middle.

2458
01:54:38,453 --> 01:54:41,333
Speaker 23: Well, let's not go there. But anyway, we've been married

2459
01:54:41,493 --> 01:54:45,972
Speaker 23: for two years and together for ten years. The only

2460
01:54:46,053 --> 01:54:48,772
Speaker 23: thing is we didn't realize until quite some time later

2461
01:54:48,853 --> 01:54:51,533
Speaker 23: that I'm ten years younger than him, but no eleven.

2462
01:54:51,973 --> 01:54:52,852
Speaker 23: But anyway, that's.

2463
01:54:52,693 --> 01:54:55,373
Speaker 2: Fine, that's fine. Oh, thank you so much for you

2464
01:54:55,493 --> 01:54:56,172
Speaker 2: call Denise.

2465
01:54:56,453 --> 01:54:57,852
Speaker 3: What a beautiful story that is.

2466
01:54:57,973 --> 01:55:00,852
Speaker 2: That is a beautiful story. We were talking before about

2467
01:55:01,453 --> 01:55:04,493
Speaker 2: a bridge related rom com. What the name would be

2468
01:55:04,693 --> 01:55:08,053
Speaker 2: Bridge over Troubled Waters. Someone saying it's not and that's

2469
01:55:08,093 --> 01:55:08,892
Speaker 2: not a bad one.

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01:55:09,093 --> 01:55:09,293
Speaker 14: Yeah.

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01:55:10,093 --> 01:55:14,733
Speaker 2: Someone else is saying, hearts afloat this one. I don't

2472
01:55:14,733 --> 01:55:17,373
Speaker 2: get this one. Playing the hand, Oh yeah, that'll work.

2473
01:55:18,213 --> 01:55:20,892
Speaker 2: So that you're coming through suitors Lover is a wild

2474
01:55:20,973 --> 01:55:25,413
Speaker 2: card Bridget Yeah, okay, all right, thank you very much

2475
01:55:25,413 --> 01:55:28,012
Speaker 2: across the table. Yeah, it's a nice one. Well, Tyler,

2476
01:55:28,013 --> 01:55:29,812
Speaker 2: I've got an apology to you. But yet start of

2477
01:55:29,853 --> 01:55:32,453
Speaker 2: this hour I said, we're doing this subject for Tyler

2478
01:55:32,493 --> 01:55:34,733
Speaker 2: because he read this article. He got excited about love

2479
01:55:34,733 --> 01:55:36,653
Speaker 2: it Bridge and yeah, I don't think it was excited.

2480
01:55:36,693 --> 01:55:39,413
Speaker 2: And Craig, guys, you guys bloody teamed up on me.

2481
01:55:39,613 --> 01:55:39,812
Speaker 6: Craig.

2482
01:55:40,093 --> 01:55:43,173
Speaker 2: Craig texted someone, here is the card you dealt me?

2483
01:55:44,013 --> 01:55:46,973
Speaker 2: There so many of them coming through, But I apologizing

2484
01:55:48,093 --> 01:55:49,093
Speaker 2: very much. Enjoyed that chat.

2485
01:55:49,213 --> 01:55:49,453
Speaker 3: Thank you.

2486
01:55:49,613 --> 01:55:50,213
Speaker 12: So there you go.

2487
01:55:51,053 --> 01:55:53,453
Speaker 3: Love will find the way, as we say. But thank

2488
01:55:53,493 --> 01:55:56,772
Speaker 3: you very much to everybody who phoned and text on

2489
01:55:56,973 --> 01:56:00,852
Speaker 3: that one. We'll compile all those rom com titles and

2490
01:56:01,293 --> 01:56:03,373
Speaker 3: maybe post them on our Facebook page so everybody can

2491
01:56:03,453 --> 01:56:05,213
Speaker 3: have a look. But we'll do it all again tomorrow.

2492
01:56:05,413 --> 01:56:07,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you very great. New zealanis for listening. We've

2493
01:56:07,493 --> 01:56:09,812
Speaker 2: had a great time. The Mettantila Afternoons podcast will be

2494
01:56:09,853 --> 01:56:11,733
Speaker 2: out in about half an hour. If you've missed any

2495
01:56:11,772 --> 01:56:14,893
Speaker 2: of our excellent chats on the failure and hypocrisy of

2496
01:56:14,933 --> 01:56:18,133
Speaker 2: plant based meats. People who can afford to buy but

2497
01:56:18,253 --> 01:56:20,092
Speaker 2: are renting? And the sexiness of Bridge.

2498
01:56:20,733 --> 01:56:23,293
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