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Speaker 1: So a new approach to king or attendants who cause

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Speaker 1: trouble famously under the previous Labor government. Of of course, despite

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Speaker 1: all the stories, only eight people ever got evicted. So

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Speaker 1: far under the new government, we've got fourteen gone in

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Speaker 1: three months, and twenty five others are apparently about to

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Speaker 1: get sent packing. The Housing Minister Chris Bishop back with us. Chris,

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Speaker 1: morning to you, good morning. Are the people you booted

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Speaker 1: out under your regime the sort of people who should

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Speaker 1: have gone under the old regime?

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Speaker 2: Well, there's no doubt about that. We've asked by order

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Speaker 2: to take a time for approach to unreally antisocial tenants

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Speaker 2: and use the powers that are available to them under

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Speaker 2: the Residential Tendencies Act in the same way they're available

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Speaker 2: for any other land order. And I think you're own listening.

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Speaker 2: We've seen and heard the stories over the last few

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Speaker 2: years of time or attendants causing mayhem in communities, and

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Speaker 2: you know, we said enough as enough. Basically, the last

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Speaker 2: government had a soft, typed approach. It was basically impossible

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Speaker 2: to get kicked out of a crime or a property.

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Speaker 2: We've said no, there need to be consequences at the

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Speaker 2: end of the day. I keep you in your tendency.

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Speaker 2: But if you willfully and persistently breach the rights of

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Speaker 2: your neighbors and the rights of the community, you've got

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Speaker 2: to go. And so we've had forty five in the

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Speaker 2: last three months, just eight last year, three twenty three.

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Speaker 2: So order is responding to the ministerial direction.

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Speaker 1: That's because that sort of answers my question. Has anything

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Speaker 1: materially changed, criteria actually changed, or have you just said

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Speaker 1: can you please do what you're supposed to be doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we wrote to them and back in March and

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Speaker 3: said you've got to replace what's called the Sustaining Tendency three,

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Speaker 3: which was the previous government's rule that basically said, I mean,

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Speaker 3: theoretically you.

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Speaker 2: Could get kicked up, but basically no one ever did.

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Speaker 2: They just you know, there were never any really hard

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Speaker 2: consequences of people who persistently breached the rules. And we said,

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Speaker 2: you've got to replace that and take a tougher approach

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Speaker 2: and use the use the tools available to you through

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Speaker 2: the Residential Tendencies Act. And they're now starting to do that.

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Speaker 2: There's essentially a three strikes regime through the law. You know,

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Speaker 2: you can issue issue strikes for behavior and kind of

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Speaker 2: Orror is doing that much more regularly now as well,

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Speaker 2: and that's good thing.

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Speaker 1: And what about all the people who sit there and

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Speaker 1: go and where will they go? I mean, where do

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Speaker 1: they go? And does anyone care?

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Speaker 2: Well? They get referred to other housing providers, some will

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Speaker 2: end up in the private rental market, some will move

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Speaker 2: in with friends and family. But I just put this

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Speaker 2: to you. There are twenty three thousand people or families

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Speaker 2: on the waitlist for social housing. It's around two thousand

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Speaker 2: families living in emergency housing motels. One of the cruelest

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Speaker 2: things over the last few years is I would literally

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Speaker 2: be contacted by people when we're in opposition who are

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Speaker 2: living in motels or sleeping in other circumstances, and they

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Speaker 2: would say to me, excuse me, I need a house.

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Speaker 2: I'm willing to look after the house. And there are

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Speaker 2: these guys down the road who I happen to know

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Speaker 2: in some cases, who are causing absolute mayhem for their neighbors.

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Speaker 2: And you know, what gives? What are they get to the

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Speaker 2: house when I don't when I look after it and

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Speaker 2: these other guys won't. And so I literally had emails

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Speaker 2: from people in social housing saying exactly there and so

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Speaker 2: you just go, well, at some level there has to

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Speaker 2: be consequences, and of course once there are consequences, people

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Speaker 2: start to change their behavior and we're starting to see that,

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Speaker 2: which is a good fun.

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Speaker 1: Exactly good to catch up. Appreciate it very much, Chris

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Speaker 1: Bishop of the Housing Ministered.

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