1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,453 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,453 --> 00:00:15,853 Speaker 2: That'd be fourteen minutes to eleven. Everyone thinks that a 4 00:00:15,893 --> 00:00:19,133 Speaker 2: financial advisor is a financial advisor, but that is not 5 00:00:19,293 --> 00:00:22,373 Speaker 2: the case. Ed McKnight, our personal finance expert, is here 6 00:00:22,373 --> 00:00:24,253 Speaker 2: to shed a bit more light on it this morning. 7 00:00:24,373 --> 00:00:27,253 Speaker 2: You gotta ed great to be here, Jack, You're nice 8 00:00:27,253 --> 00:00:28,933 Speaker 2: to be chatting with you. So talk us through the 9 00:00:29,053 --> 00:00:32,893 Speaker 2: different sorts of financial advisors, because I get really confused 10 00:00:32,933 --> 00:00:33,053 Speaker 2: with this. 11 00:00:33,813 --> 00:00:35,973 Speaker 3: Well, there are five main types, and I think you're 12 00:00:35,973 --> 00:00:38,933 Speaker 3: absolutely right that most people think that a financial advisor 13 00:00:38,973 --> 00:00:41,613 Speaker 3: does absolutely everything. But what we see in New Zealand 14 00:00:41,693 --> 00:00:44,653 Speaker 3: is that they're all allowed to call themselves financial advisors, 15 00:00:44,653 --> 00:00:47,613 Speaker 3: and they should. But typically they'll specialize in one of 16 00:00:47,653 --> 00:00:50,533 Speaker 3: five things. So you might have investments, which is your 17 00:00:50,613 --> 00:00:53,293 Speaker 3: Keiwi saver, or if you're investing in managed funds or 18 00:00:53,333 --> 00:00:56,493 Speaker 3: shares or term deposits, they can help you decide, well 19 00:00:56,493 --> 00:00:58,573 Speaker 3: what am I going to invest in? And then we've 20 00:00:58,653 --> 00:01:00,973 Speaker 3: kind of got the cousin of that, which is property 21 00:01:01,013 --> 00:01:04,613 Speaker 3: investment advisors. So for the ten to eleven percent of 22 00:01:04,693 --> 00:01:07,453 Speaker 3: key we are adults who own property, they can give 23 00:01:07,493 --> 00:01:10,173 Speaker 3: you some advice around that. And then we've got budgeting 24 00:01:10,253 --> 00:01:12,693 Speaker 3: advisors on top of that. This is a different type. 25 00:01:12,973 --> 00:01:15,173 Speaker 3: These are people who look at what you're spending and 26 00:01:15,213 --> 00:01:18,773 Speaker 3: how much income is coming in and help you decide, well, 27 00:01:18,933 --> 00:01:21,493 Speaker 3: how am I going to be better with my money, 28 00:01:21,573 --> 00:01:23,973 Speaker 3: either to invest more or maybe pay off some debt 29 00:01:24,013 --> 00:01:26,453 Speaker 3: if you've got a mortgage, or perhaps even say for 30 00:01:26,653 --> 00:01:29,373 Speaker 3: that first home. And then we've even we've got two 31 00:01:29,413 --> 00:01:33,093 Speaker 3: more check. We've got mortgage advisors who specialize in helping 32 00:01:33,093 --> 00:01:35,693 Speaker 3: you get a home loan, whether for a place you 33 00:01:35,733 --> 00:01:38,213 Speaker 3: want to live in or for an investment property. And 34 00:01:38,293 --> 00:01:41,373 Speaker 3: then we've got insurance advisors as well, which could help 35 00:01:41,413 --> 00:01:44,133 Speaker 3: you get with house insurance but also with life insurance 36 00:01:44,173 --> 00:01:47,293 Speaker 3: and different things. But each of these five different types 37 00:01:47,333 --> 00:01:50,093 Speaker 3: of advisors doesn't really stray into each other's lane. They 38 00:01:50,133 --> 00:01:51,933 Speaker 3: really specialize in that one thing. 39 00:01:52,173 --> 00:01:55,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So, depending on their roles and what they're 40 00:01:55,893 --> 00:01:59,773 Speaker 2: actually advising on, I suppose they are paid in different ways. 41 00:02:00,213 --> 00:02:02,573 Speaker 2: But how are financial advisors paid. 42 00:02:03,373 --> 00:02:05,813 Speaker 3: Well, A lot of people really don't know, and so 43 00:02:05,853 --> 00:02:08,573 Speaker 3: they think, oh, financial advisors must be very expensive. But 44 00:02:08,693 --> 00:02:12,053 Speaker 3: typically they'll get paid in one of three ways. The 45 00:02:12,093 --> 00:02:16,973 Speaker 3: most common, especially for mortgage advisors, insurance advisors, and properly 46 00:02:17,013 --> 00:02:19,733 Speaker 3: investment advisors is through some sort of commission. So if 47 00:02:19,773 --> 00:02:23,653 Speaker 3: you go to an insurance advisor and say, oh, I'm 48 00:02:23,693 --> 00:02:26,253 Speaker 3: thinking about taking out some life insurance or I want 49 00:02:26,253 --> 00:02:29,733 Speaker 3: to review what I've currently got, then if they help 50 00:02:29,813 --> 00:02:32,853 Speaker 3: you buy some insurance through an insurance company, then they're 51 00:02:32,853 --> 00:02:35,253 Speaker 3: going to get paid a commission. Saying with mortgage advisors, 52 00:02:35,333 --> 00:02:37,853 Speaker 3: and so sometimes people still ask me, you know, how 53 00:02:37,893 --> 00:02:40,413 Speaker 3: much does a mortgage advisor cost? And most of the 54 00:02:40,453 --> 00:02:43,293 Speaker 3: time it doesn't cost you anything because they're clipping the 55 00:02:43,333 --> 00:02:45,613 Speaker 3: ticket from the bank and it's not like you're paying 56 00:02:45,613 --> 00:02:49,613 Speaker 3: a higher interest rate for it. The service effectively feels free. 57 00:02:50,253 --> 00:02:53,413 Speaker 3: You can also have some people charge fixed fees. That's 58 00:02:53,453 --> 00:02:55,893 Speaker 3: more common for budgeting advisors, so you might go and 59 00:02:55,933 --> 00:02:58,453 Speaker 3: talk to them and it might cost two thousand dollars 60 00:02:58,613 --> 00:03:01,973 Speaker 3: or so for their advice. But for investment advisors, like 61 00:03:02,013 --> 00:03:04,853 Speaker 3: if it's your key we savor you're investing in, say 62 00:03:04,933 --> 00:03:08,173 Speaker 3: managed funds or shares, they might say, okay, you've got 63 00:03:08,213 --> 00:03:10,733 Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars to invest, and they might charge 64 00:03:10,773 --> 00:03:12,973 Speaker 3: you a percentage of what you're investing every year, which 65 00:03:13,053 --> 00:03:16,693 Speaker 3: might be between zero point five to kind of one percent. 66 00:03:17,133 --> 00:03:20,333 Speaker 2: Right, okay, oh yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, which, depending on 67 00:03:20,373 --> 00:03:23,853 Speaker 2: the services, might be relatively reasonable. What is the one 68 00:03:23,973 --> 00:03:26,453 Speaker 2: question you should be asking any advisor though. 69 00:03:27,053 --> 00:03:29,253 Speaker 3: Well, one of the big things that I encourage people 70 00:03:29,333 --> 00:03:31,773 Speaker 3: to ask is well what sort of clients do you 71 00:03:31,853 --> 00:03:34,373 Speaker 3: actually work with? And I I mean the thing that 72 00:03:34,493 --> 00:03:37,013 Speaker 3: gets it really gets up the goat jack, if I 73 00:03:37,013 --> 00:03:39,133 Speaker 3: could say it is people are not often and financial 74 00:03:39,173 --> 00:03:41,853 Speaker 3: advisors are often not very clear about this on their website. 75 00:03:41,853 --> 00:03:44,573 Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing that really grinds mcgearz, especially 76 00:03:44,573 --> 00:03:47,093 Speaker 3: with investment advisors who help you invest in things like 77 00:03:47,093 --> 00:03:50,053 Speaker 3: like the managed funds and shares. Typically most of them 78 00:03:50,053 --> 00:03:53,693 Speaker 3: will have some sort of minimum that they work with. 79 00:03:53,733 --> 00:03:55,293 Speaker 3: What I mean by that is, I know of one 80 00:03:55,333 --> 00:03:59,333 Speaker 3: financial advisor who only works with people who have two 81 00:03:59,413 --> 00:04:03,213 Speaker 3: million dollars to invest for more so just wild abouts 82 00:04:03,253 --> 00:04:05,333 Speaker 3: of buddy, right, And this is it like muddy in 83 00:04:05,453 --> 00:04:07,773 Speaker 3: your house, This is it like your networth, this is 84 00:04:07,853 --> 00:04:10,773 Speaker 3: like money to invest And I'm like, but why don't 85 00:04:10,813 --> 00:04:14,013 Speaker 3: they put it on their websites they actually know, whereas 86 00:04:14,053 --> 00:04:16,453 Speaker 3: some other financial advisors will be like, oh cool, I 87 00:04:16,493 --> 00:04:18,933 Speaker 3: specialize with people who have fifty thousand dollars in their 88 00:04:18,973 --> 00:04:22,133 Speaker 3: key we save or more, which is like much more accessible, 89 00:04:22,133 --> 00:04:23,813 Speaker 3: and some people have no a bit of bit at all. 90 00:04:24,213 --> 00:04:26,093 Speaker 3: So if you've got somebody to invest, one of the 91 00:04:26,133 --> 00:04:28,293 Speaker 3: questions I always say is ask them if they've got 92 00:04:28,293 --> 00:04:30,013 Speaker 3: a bit of it that they tend to work with. 93 00:04:30,253 --> 00:04:32,653 Speaker 3: And I think the thing that you know only eighteen 94 00:04:32,733 --> 00:04:35,533 Speaker 3: percent of New Zealanders use financial advisors, will use the 95 00:04:35,573 --> 00:04:38,253 Speaker 3: financial advisor over the last twelve months. I think what 96 00:04:38,293 --> 00:04:40,973 Speaker 3: if the reasons is a lot of financial advisors don't 97 00:04:40,973 --> 00:04:43,413 Speaker 3: make it very clear about who they tend to work 98 00:04:43,413 --> 00:04:45,533 Speaker 3: with and what the process looks like at all of 99 00:04:45,573 --> 00:04:46,933 Speaker 3: those costs. 100 00:04:46,613 --> 00:04:48,853 Speaker 2: It's a pretty interesting point. It's kind of like, you know, 101 00:04:48,893 --> 00:04:50,493 Speaker 2: when you go into a fancy clothes store and they 102 00:04:50,493 --> 00:04:52,973 Speaker 2: don't have prices on anything, that's always an immediate sign 103 00:04:53,013 --> 00:04:54,973 Speaker 2: to me that you can't afford the clothes. And maybe 104 00:04:54,973 --> 00:04:57,293 Speaker 2: that could be the measure for financial advisors as well. 105 00:04:57,293 --> 00:05:00,813 Speaker 2: If they don't put a minimum on their website, then sorry, 106 00:05:00,933 --> 00:05:03,413 Speaker 2: unless you've got two million dollars, you're probably sniffing up 107 00:05:03,453 --> 00:05:05,813 Speaker 2: the wrong business. Thanks so much, Jed, appreciate your time. 108 00:05:06,653 --> 00:05:08,693 Speaker 2: Night from Obi's partners with us This Morning. 109 00:05:09,293 --> 00:05:12,373 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 110 00:05:12,453 --> 00:05:15,293 Speaker 1: to News Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, or 111 00:05:15,373 --> 00:05:17,253 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio