1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views. The Mike 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover, the la designed to intrigue, 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: can use togs head bending. 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 2: And welcome today more budget Lolly, some tax treatment for 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: startups and foreign investors, and dollars for rail. The Trump 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: phone calls what happens the Lockwood Smith on Today's Monsters, 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 2: the way around the Privilege's Decision, Murray Bartlett and White 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: Locusts any Murphy of Ship's Creek are with us? After 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: eight o'clock this morning? Joe does Europe? Rod does Britain? 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: Ask gotting to the day? Seven past six? Let me 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: ask you a question. Is there something positive, if not ironic, 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: in watching an economic theory turned into reality in front 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: of your very own eyes? For example, the old social 14 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 2: credit idea, Remember that they could invent money. Apparently nothing 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: bad would happen social credit around in the eighties. If 16 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: you don't remember offering up wacky economic ideas that, because 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: they whenever tested in the real world, never got put 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: to bed in a way that shut the believers up 19 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: until COVID, of course, and along came funding for lending 20 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: and the ensuing inflation and the recessions that followed. So 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: there is no such thing as free money without pain 22 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: and suffering. Then came Trump at as tariffs. We had 23 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: the head start here, of course, over the Americans, given 24 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: we are free traders, have been since the eighties, and 25 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: we know what a tariff is, the damage it does, 26 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: the falsity it provides, the cold hard reality it protects. 27 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: So maybe some Americans thought Trump knew what he was 28 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: talking about when he said the countries paid the tariffs. Obviously, 29 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 2: wasn't long after that when the prices at the shop 30 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: started going up, that a few pennies were dropping that 31 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: it wasn't the countries, It was, in fact the consumer. 32 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: And not only was stuff more expensive, you might not 33 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: see as much stuff given the people who brought the 34 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: stuff into the shop didn't buy as much because one, 35 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 2: they couldn't afford to, and even if they could too, 36 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 2: they knew they couldn't sell it. Maybe that's why Santa 37 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: Trump started telling kids they didn't need as many dolls 38 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: or pencils. Now, as the fraud is fully exposed and 39 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: retailer after retailer starts putting prices up, the President is 40 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: suggesting people like Walmart eat the tariffs, which, of course, 41 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: as the punter will find out, has downstream consequences as well. 42 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: If walmart ate them or absorbed them. They can do 43 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: that because they make billions. So we're picking on successful people. 44 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: Now that profit is then reduced, the bottom line is affected, 45 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: the share price drops, the four to zero ones get hit, 46 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: the jobs get trimmed, and so it goes all the 47 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: way down the line. None of this is complicated or 48 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: difficult to understand. I suspect Trump understood it all along. 49 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: He so he wasn't thick. He was just dishonest. Free 50 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: markets are your only true path to successful business. All 51 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: the rest is a jack up. The fact so many 52 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: Americans never understood that until it was too late is 53 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: the real tragedy. 54 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds. 55 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: Two big deal things have been happening while you've been sleeping. 56 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: Are firstly the EU and the UK. They've put to 57 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 2: bed Brickxit in a new deal. 58 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 3: This global instability is rising. The decisions that we've taken 59 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: to stabilize the economy and lead the way internationally have 60 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: made Britner place where people want to do business once again. 61 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: Also, La is loving it. 62 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 4: We're turning a page We're opening a new chapter in 63 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 4: our unique relationship. This is the story of historical and 64 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 4: natural partners standing side by side on the global stage. 65 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: Tourism Britain not too thrilled. 66 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 5: This is a complete sellout. I am completely shocked that 67 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 5: Kirstarma has agreed to all of this concession after concession. 68 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 5: What he wants to do is just be able to 69 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 5: say we're closer to the EU without working in the 70 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 5: national interest. 71 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: Other big thing. Trump's been on the phone, of course, 72 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: to Zelensky and put In giving going in by the 73 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: way JD gave us the stea, we should be. 74 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 6: Able to move beyond the mistakes that have been made 75 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 6: in the past. But that takes two to tako. I 76 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 6: know the President's willing to do that, but if Russia 77 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 6: is not willing to do that, then we're eventually just 78 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 6: gonna have to say, this is not our war. It's 79 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 6: Joe Biden's war, it's Vladimir Putin's war, it's not our war. 80 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: So what's happened. 81 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 7: He said that he thought that the two sides should 82 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 7: negotiate with each other because they know all of the 83 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 7: underlying issues better than anyone else, But he also posited 84 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 7: that the Vatican is interested in hosting the negotiations between 85 00:03:58,840 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 7: Ukraine and Russia. 86 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: Then Beck and Britain are to primacy all over the places. 87 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: The Iranians and the Brits have been playing tit for 88 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: ted ambassador summon zing. This is over the spying scandal. 89 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 8: The Uranian ambassador has been summoned. We have placed the 90 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 8: whole of the Uranian state on the enhanced tier of. 91 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 9: The foreign influence Registration scheme. 92 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 8: The government has also introduced sanctions as part of efforts 93 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 8: to systematically dismantle criminal networks and enablers. 94 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 2: Finally, a new study from the European Congress on obesiently 95 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: so look at the idea that if you fast, it 96 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: needs to be a particular time of day. So the 97 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: study compared three different clasting time frames to those who 98 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: eat for more than twelve hours a day. Found all 99 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: fasting windows lost weight compared to those who habitually ate, 100 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: they gained weight. The results stayed the same after twelve months. 101 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 2: So basically what they're saying is if you fast, it 102 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 2: doesn't actually matter when you do it, as long as 103 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: you do it consistently with thing upposed us of the world. 104 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: In ninety Trump said I believe it went well. Those 105 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: are his words. I believe it went well. The tone 106 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: and spirit of the conversation were ex and Russia wants 107 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: to do large scale trade once this is all over. 108 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: Apart from that, frank and substantive is what Tas is saying. 109 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: Putin expressed his position on the seas fire during the conversation. 110 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: Putin faint Trump for US support and resuming the director's 111 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: Apart from that, I don't know what else happened. Twelve 112 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: past six. 113 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 114 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: by News Talks Evy. 115 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: Gary Lineker won tweet too many so he's decided to 116 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: leave the BBC. I think he was leaving anyway. So 117 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: it's such a I mean, how do we end a 118 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: career in the wrong fashion? Anyway, So Gary Lineker is going. 119 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 2: We'll talk to rot about that late in fifteen past 120 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: six from Devin Funk's management, Greg Smith, good morning. 121 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: Good morning, Mike. 122 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: M Services sector gies. We're wading, aren't we see? It's 123 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: hard work. 124 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 10: Absolutely just confirms how patched economic recovery is. So we 125 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 10: did have that positive manufacturing sector news. But yeah, CIVICUS 126 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 10: sected decline further during April is the Benz Business Newseum 127 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 10: Performance of Services Index. Their update was aptly titled Declining 128 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 10: of Fortune. So these four points to forty eight point 129 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 10: five to the index or anything below fifties contractions, that's 130 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 10: where we are for all of our I suppose commentary 131 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 10: and economic recovery. It's a good reminder that things are challenging, 132 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 10: and it's also very important by giving the service sector 133 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 10: accounts for two thirds of our economy. And also remember 134 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 10: we've talked about this before that were a bit of 135 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 10: an outline that most of our key trading partners had 136 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 10: their services sector and expansion mode, so a little bit 137 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 10: different there. Things week across the board, all sub industries 138 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 10: well below their long term iverages. New orders index that 139 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 10: was above fifty but fifty point nine, but still well 140 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 10: below it's average of fifty six point five. And of 141 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 10: course we've got tariffs and we're going to talk about that. 142 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 10: But yeah, things were sort of not going so well 143 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 10: well before Liberation Day, so there are other drivers here, 144 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 10: and we have had lower interest rates to I suppose 145 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 10: easy in the extent of the damage a bit. But yeah, 146 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 10: things are pretty tough and none more tougher perhaps than 147 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 10: the retail sector. So that was a big drag. Retail 148 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 10: sales down nine of the last eleven twelve quarters. Card 149 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 10: transactions data talked about that. That's been weak consumer confidence, 150 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 10: that's subdued. We're getting more trade DOUNA this week, which 151 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 10: will probably give a bit of a sight of there. 152 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 10: But when you combine the p SI with the PMI 153 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 10: being the manufacturing one of the composite index also week, 154 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 10: and that's at forty eight point two, so economy struggling 155 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 10: for momentum, and you'd actually have to say is increasing 156 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 10: downside risks to GDP something might the RBNZ has to 157 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 10: be mindful of our meeting again next week, and yeah, 158 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 10: a reason to perhaps go ahead with a decent cut. 159 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: Now, talk to me about the Chinese because I looked 160 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: at these numbers. Some were good, some were a misser, 161 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: and they threw a lot of money at it. So 162 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: did they survive? 163 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 10: Yeah, they did survive. It's a bit of a mix 164 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 10: mixed bag, as you say, I mean, there's silly pockets 165 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 10: of positivity. So this obviously we had the truce declared 166 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 10: last week, but this is the start of sort of 167 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 10: reflecting how trying to cope before that, and yet relatively 168 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 10: well in parts. I suppose that the key thing to 169 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 10: look at is the trade side. So industrial output that 170 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 10: was up six point one percent, that was above expectations, 171 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 10: down a little bit from Marches rise, but we did 172 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 10: see a plunge in exports of the US, so you 173 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 10: sort of figure that. But in China basically diverted goods 174 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 10: to elsewhere, so Southeast Asia and Europe to compensate, So 175 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 10: that was pretty good, but yeah, it was a little 176 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 10: bit patchy elsewhere. So retail sales they've increased at a 177 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 10: reduced pace of five point one percent, so that was 178 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 10: against expectations of five point eight. It just shows that 179 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 10: I suppose the Gavenment's given things a bit of a 180 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 10: boost of cut prices on the likes of phones and 181 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 10: home goods, but that's the mess appears to be fading, 182 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 10: so they might need to do a bit more. And 183 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 10: also we always talk about the property market of China 184 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 10: and that also looks like it needs more support. So 185 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 10: new home prices flat and April they have not moved 186 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 10: for two years. The declines to appear to be moderating 187 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 10: a little bit. Existing home prices they were down almost 188 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 10: seven percent, and look a year and year properly investment 189 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 10: down ten percent, so you're very pitchy there. Fixed assing 190 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 10: investment down. There was a bit a bit, a bit 191 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 10: of brightness the job. This rate actually fell to five 192 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 10: point one percent, so that was good. So on balance, 193 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 10: I think you'd say China coat perhaps better than expected, 194 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 10: might give them a bit more comfort as these negotiations 195 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 10: progress in case they get their raal. They probably used 196 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 10: probably needs them more than vice versa, but also clear 197 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 10: that the ageing probably needs to roll a bit more stimulus. 198 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: But a quick word on the liquor. Did we turn 199 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: to the drink? You just this is the igo. 200 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 10: They actually have reduced the impact of tariffs from a 201 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 10: two hundred million previously to one hundred and fifty minions. 202 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 11: That was good news. 203 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 10: They generate around forty five percent of their sales and 204 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 10: the US from products that must be made in Mexico Canada, 205 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 10: so they've had a bit of a re privie end 206 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 10: up being caught by those tariffs. Overall sales up three 207 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 10: percent in the quarter, four point four billion US sales 208 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 10: rose six percent. Again a bit of front loading of liquor. 209 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 10: They like other companies including Moaya are catting costs. Who 210 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 10: can They're going to take five and a million out 211 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 10: and cast by twenty twenty eight. Shears downside I reckon Mike. 212 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 10: They're also digesting the brecksit reset use, so revision of 213 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 10: the red tape around the trade and alcohol, so that 214 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 10: it's something. 215 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: To consider their What are the numbers? 216 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 10: So at the moment, the dow jones were in positive 217 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 10: territory up point three percent, forty two seven seventy five 218 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 10: s and P five hundred. That's up point one percent, 219 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 10: five nine sixty six. Nare's that down slightly point one 220 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 10: percent lower nineteen sixty five to five the foots erect 221 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 10: into that. Reset news is up point two percent eighty 222 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 10: six nine nine. Stocks fifty in Europe is up point 223 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 10: four percent as well. Nick A down point seven percent, 224 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 10: A six two hundred down point six percent, A two 225 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 10: nine five. We were down one point two percent. Ins 226 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 10: of X fifty eighteen sixty two nine fishing bugle health 227 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 10: key was down around three percent, so that weigh going 228 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 10: up twenty four dollars three and twenty seven an ounce. 229 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 10: Oil down fourteen cents sixty two spot thirty five a 230 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 10: barrel just in the currency markets, Key, we up against 231 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 10: the was dollar fifty nine point two, against the Australian 232 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 10: dollars were down slightly ninety one point eight, and we're 233 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 10: up against the British pound forty four point four, up 234 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 10: against the end five point nine. Look at you today. 235 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 10: We've got the RBA decision, so they're expected to cut, 236 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 10: but you never know. 237 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: Mate, See you tomorrow. Catch up then, Greg Smith, Devon 238 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 2: Funds Management, Pascal who the beneficiary is of all the 239 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 2: upset in America? Japan record record record record month of 240 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: foreign purchases of their equities and bonds. Always seen as 241 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: a safe haven, of course, but once people started freaking 242 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: out about America, they went where are we going to go? 243 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 2: And they went to Japan. So they're breaking records there. 244 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: Six twenty one, you're at News Talk Seed. 245 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: B the Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio 246 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: powered by News Talk set B. 247 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 2: Trump's having a very good day. The Big beautiful Bill 248 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: the House Budget Committee. They're advancing it. They had the 249 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: big setback you will be aware of, seventeen six to 250 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: vote yesterday, so they just got it out. So they're 251 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: going to they're looking for memorial Day as a deadline. Johnson, 252 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: the Speaker has said Memorial Day by a deadline, so 253 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 2: they're going to the next day. Wh's no guarantee. They've 254 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: still got the hardliners. Basically they want bigger cuts, but 255 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: they've got it out of one part and moving it 256 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: on to the next. That makes sense. Meantime, the Supreme 257 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 2: Court they've allowed the Trump administration to move forward to 258 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: temporary deport and the protections around people they are deporting. 259 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: This was started by Christy Nome to we end a 260 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 2: form of humanitarian relief known as TPS or temporary protective status. 261 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: The administration got sued the way they're getting sued on everything. 262 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: They seem at this point to have won that. So 263 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: so far, so good, and it's only Monday. There six twenty. 264 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: Five trending now with the chemist Warehouse, Mayhem, megasales on now. 265 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: Now make of this post Brexit thing. Let's pretend bricks 266 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: that never happened. The deal this morning between the EU 267 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: and the UK, and I don't think we can overstate 268 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: the significance of this number ten says the deal will 269 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: add nine billion to the UK economy lower food prices 270 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: after removing checks on food exports, allow the EU fisher's 271 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: access to British waters. That'll be very controversial for another 272 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: twelve years. Going to slash red type when it comes 273 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: to assessing or accessing the EU market. Boris as in Johnson, 274 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: who engineered the whole thing out for Britain in the 275 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 2: first place. 276 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 12: He had a few thoughts, gets a complete and deliberate 277 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 12: portrayal of Brexit, and it goes against what the Prime 278 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 12: Minister said he was going to do at the election 279 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 12: in twenty twenty four. He's done a total sell out 280 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 12: on our fisheries. You can see that he's paving the 281 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 12: way for a massive sell out on borders. And worst 282 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 12: of all, he's decided that we can pay for this. 283 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 12: We're going to pay for the privilege of once again 284 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 12: being ruled from in many ways by Brussels. He's turning 285 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 12: this country once again into the orange ball, chewing leather, 286 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 12: trust gimp. 287 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 13: If I have got the right. 288 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: Word, isn't he brilliant? The point he's right? Of course, 289 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: The best headline I've seen around this this morning is 290 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: Starmer is banking on Britain being over Brexit. So in 291 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: other words, he's burning political capital and he's banking that 292 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: people going, well, yes, I voted for Brexit, but it 293 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: didn't turn out quite the way I thought. I think 294 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: he might be wrong on that, so there'll be a 295 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: price to pay. But we'll talk to a rot about 296 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: it later on in the program. Unfortunately, I've got more 297 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: bad news. We're running out of gas. Now you already 298 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: knew that because we've done numerous interviews about how we 299 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: don't have enough gas. It's worse than we thought. The 300 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: word crisis is being bandied about. And then there was 301 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: Transpower's decision to sell off our only trading platform. They 302 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: did this last year. They were going to sell it off, 303 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: and if they couldn't sell it off, they were going 304 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: to close it down until yesterday when they changed their 305 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: mind and went, oh, this guest thing could be quite important. 306 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: We'll talk more about this than just a couple of 307 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: moments after the news for you. 308 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: Setting the agenda and talking the big issues, the mic costing, 309 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial, 310 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: and rural news talks. 311 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: Dad been to the local party to negotiate for the 312 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: Marie Party. Isn't the committee with the people across the house. 313 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: It's a very good question, and I'll come back with 314 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: an answer in just a couple of moments. Joe's doing 315 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: the business in Europe? Are the popes heavily involved in 316 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of things at the moment, not least 317 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: of which is this ongoing conversation today by a phone 318 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: with Trump and Co. And of course we get the 319 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: reaction to the EU EK EU UK deal. Meantime, back here, 320 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: more trouble and energy. For the first quarter of this year, 321 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: gas production was down twenty percent. Now the trouble is 322 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: the demand, isn't the word they're now using apparently as 323 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: crisis commercial users are facing unsustainable price hikes or not 324 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: being able to renew their contracts. According to Shane Jones, 325 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: is all the previous governments, Helen, we don't have that anyway. 326 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: Echelon Resources formerly in New Zealand Oil and Gas CEO 327 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: Andrew Jefferies is, well, that's very good morning to you. 328 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 14: Good morning, Mike. 329 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: So Jones was blaming the previous government. Is Jones right? 330 00:15:54,360 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 14: I think I do believe that Shane Jones is correct. Okay, Yeah, 331 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 14: the previous government was influenced very much by the Greens 332 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 14: with the de industrialization agenda. And Look, I think that 333 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 14: ideological call thinking got us to where we are at 334 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 14: the moment. 335 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: Okay, is it the looking or the finding? Even if 336 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: we were looking, could we find or is that a 337 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: problem potentially as well? 338 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 14: I think you've got a look to find, Mike, So 339 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 14: if you aren't looking, then you're not going to do 340 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 14: any finding. 341 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: If we start looking, can we solve this problem? Are 342 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: you bullish on that or we just don't know? 343 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 14: Look, we can't solve this year's problem by looking because 344 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 14: it's a long term industry. So I think we've got 345 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 14: a couple of a couple of different aspects. You've got 346 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 14: a short term aspect, and I think in the short 347 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 14: term we're going to see the government having to buy 348 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 14: or somebody having to buy out long term users contracts. 349 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 14: That's going to reduce export, that's not going to be 350 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 14: great for the country, and it's going to put jobs 351 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 14: at risk. 352 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 2: Who are we buying these contracts from. 353 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 14: Look, you'll have to buy them from the folks who 354 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 14: use the gas and have long term industrial contracts, and 355 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 14: also from the power producers who use gas as well. 356 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 14: So we're going to have to supplement that demand with 357 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 14: coal in the power industry. And you're just going to 358 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 14: have to probably have to reduce exports. And as I say, 359 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 14: that always puts pressure on those companies to see whether 360 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 14: they think it's a reliable place to produce goods in 361 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 14: New Zealand. 362 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: So we can I get that. So you're painting me 363 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: a big picture there, and you're depressing me at the 364 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: same time. Can we for this winter get this all 365 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: this coal importation that we're doing at the moment and 366 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: the stockpiles and stuff. Can we get through the winter 367 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 2: with an alternative light coal or hope it rains or 368 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: whatever I think it's. 369 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 14: Look, I think it's the stockpile and hope strategy. So 370 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 14: and I think that, well, that's the thing to get 371 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 14: us through this winter. Looking longer term is where we 372 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 14: can where we have a few more leads to pull 373 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 14: and on the supply side, we can encourage companies to 374 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 14: do that looking that we were talking about, and they're 375 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 14: going to need support, and they're going to need support 376 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 14: from both sides of government to do that, because our 377 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 14: industry can't operate in a place where you don't know 378 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 14: what the next government's going to do. So I think 379 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 14: there needs to be a bipartisan coming together. 380 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 2: I just wonder if you're going to get that. Having 381 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: said that, well, I mean you've got the Greens correct. 382 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 14: Correct, And I think, you know, I think the Labor 383 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 14: Party really has to have a bit of a think 384 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 14: about to what extent they're their link up, how important 385 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 14: their link up to the Greens is in terms of 386 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 14: the country's ability to be a competitive exporter and to 387 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 14: take its place in the global in the global markets. 388 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 2: You sound depressed, and you've depressed me. I mean, there's 389 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: a country on its knees already, Andrew, and you're just 390 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 2: telling we cannot get out of our own way. 391 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 14: I think we can in the longer term, Mike, and 392 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 14: luckily folks in the past have had the foresight to 393 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 14: have a large coal fired power station, which we still 394 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 14: have and we haven't shut that down. So look, we 395 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 14: have that gas is a fantastic has a fantastic ability 396 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 14: to provide energy where it's needed. And I think people 397 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 14: don't realize in New Zealand we have gas provides about 398 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 14: the same amount of energy as electricity does, so you 399 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 14: can't do without the gas. If you want to to 400 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 14: do without the gas, you've got to double the size 401 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 14: of the electrical system for a start. 402 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: So so we've got a real. 403 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 14: Opportunity here, and we have gas here, so we can 404 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 14: supply gas locally with support, and we'll probably have to 405 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 14: encourage explorers to come in and have a go. You 406 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 14: can also import natural gas. 407 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: Well, we were going to do that when we ran 408 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: out of power last one to what happened to that. 409 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 14: Yeah, Look, I think those things, those things take a while. 410 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 14: You can't just magic anything into into existence. But and 411 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 14: so so I'm not I'm not sure why why it 412 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 14: hasn't progressed further than it has mine. But the reality 413 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 14: is it's pretty expensive. Somebody's got to pay, and I 414 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 14: think it takes a while to get to a point where, 415 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 14: you know, things get bad enough that that there's a 416 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 14: willing somebody willing to pay. 417 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: All right, I'll follow it up with Swimming Brown. He 418 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: was the and who made the promise. Andrew, listen, I 419 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: appreciate your inside very much, Andrew Jefferies, whose echelon resources 420 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: they will want some oil and gas. Do look up 421 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 2: the MS trade point story that's been floating around in 422 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours. This was transpowered. They were 423 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 2: going to sell it, and if they weren't going to 424 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 2: sell it because they couldn't sell it. 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He's been having a flurry of 461 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 16: diplomatic meetings. He had his big inauguration on Sunday, which 462 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 16: you might have seen. Two hundred thousand people around Saint 463 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 16: Peter's Square for that major event, and some world leaders 464 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 16: and royalty there as well, of course, so he's very busy, 465 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 16: but a big day to day. 466 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 9: He met Vice President j. D. 467 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 16: Vance and Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, and several 468 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 16: other leaders today, including the Australian Prime Minister Antony alban As. 469 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 2: Indeed he did. Trump sent him a letter, so he's 470 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: presumably going to the White House at some point. 471 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm just wondering if we might see Donald Trump 472 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 16: over this side of the pond first, because after that 473 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 16: historic phone call he had today with Vladimir Pushin, the 474 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 16: Russian president, there was a big phone call between Georgia 475 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 16: Maloney and mccron and Mertz from Germany. And in the 476 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 16: statement that I saw from Maloney's office just five minutes ago, 477 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 16: there was a suggestion that Pope Leo may host those 478 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 16: peace talks at the Vatican, so we might see Trump 479 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 16: over here. 480 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: Do you get the vibe out of those phone calls 481 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 2: I've read wat's been said? Is our piece talks to 482 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: be held? I mean, we we held out for Turkey 483 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: last week and nothing happened. 484 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 16: Yeah, we seem to be going around in circles, don't we. 485 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 16: And I don't know that President Zelenski's any more confident, 486 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 16: but he was shaking a few hands here. He was 487 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 16: here for the inauguration and he had a private meeting 488 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 16: with the Pope as well. So let's have to well, 489 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 16: I guess we'll just have to wait and see on that. 490 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 2: I suppose. The other big news of the day, of course, 491 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: is the EUUK thing. I mean, from the EU's point 492 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: of view, it's got a bit of the old ass. 493 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: It took you a while to come back, didn't it. 494 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: A I mean, I suppose the fallout is really going 495 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: to be in the UK. 496 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 10: Yeah. 497 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 16: I mean the British Fime Minister Kis Darma has hailed 498 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 16: this agreement as a win win, but reading between the lines, 499 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 16: it looks like the UK has really caved in, particularly 500 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 16: on the issue of fishing rights. 501 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: I mean, how do how has you You've voted to 502 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: leave and if you're a British fisherman, the Europeans are 503 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: still in there and now for another twelve years. How 504 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: do you sell that domestically? 505 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 17: Yeah? 506 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 16: I mean we've seen a pushback already right across so 507 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 16: the board from the Conservatives and also Labor MPs. I 508 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 16: noticed former Prime Minister Boris Johnson has also been accusing 509 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 16: Starmer of being a Brussels gimp and selling out. 510 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 2: So exactly so, there's a lot of order to go 511 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 2: under that particular bridge. Joe, good to catch up. We'll 512 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: see on Thursday appreciate it very much, Sir Catherine's way 513 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 2: said Joe doing the business out of Europe for US 514 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: this morning. By the way, speaking of which which is 515 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: sort of Europe but not really at South America, France 516 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: is going to open a new high security prison in 517 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: the Amazon. They're going to house drug traffickers and radical Islamists. 518 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: It's going to costwards about seven hundred million. They reckon 519 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 2: it's going to be opened by twenty twenty eight. If 520 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 2: they can spend seven hundred million dollars in the Amazon 521 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: and build a prison and open it within three years, 522 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: can't we How come we can't build five kilometers of road? 523 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: What's the matter with us? Anyway? It's going to hold 524 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: five hundred people, are separate wing designed to house the 525 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: most dangerous of criminals northeast coast of South America. 526 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 18: It sounds like a reality TV show to me. 527 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 2: First first question we'd ask in this cuntry how you're 528 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: gonna staff it, which presumably is an issue. I mean, 529 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: I guess you're going to pay people well to go 530 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: to the Amazon. Nine away from seven. 531 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rover Villa News 532 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: Talk ten. 533 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: A good question Why is it up to the Labor 534 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 2: Party and negotiate with the Murray Party. It's not the Marray 535 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 2: Party can have their say. This is Jerry's problem. He's 536 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 2: going to give everyone to say one hundred and twenty 537 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: three mpiece ten minutes each you can put forward an amendment, 538 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: So that's potentially one hundred and twenty three amendments. Another 539 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 2: ten minute speech, so the speech going for hours. What 540 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: you're looking for today is where the Labor parties stand 541 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 2: and why they would defend the Maori Party. So the 542 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 2: Marray Party can defend themselves than they are. The Greens 543 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: are on the Marray Party side and the Labor Party 544 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: are on the Murray Party side. Why, I've got no idea, 545 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: but you got to look out for why they're defending 546 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 2: up anyway, Mike, remember the good old days when they 547 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 2: export a gas from the Maori field. You can thank Jacinda, Mike, 548 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: don't mention her name. Was that triggering yesterday or what 549 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: it was triggering? How dare she? How DAEs she stand 550 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: there with her documentary and her book clipping the ticket, 551 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: making the money after completely and utterly stuffing this country 552 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: economically and then running for the hills. The gas guy 553 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: Andrew Jeffries. Mike hits the nail on the head, Yes 554 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: he does. Don't give up, Mike. We need you positivity. 555 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 10: Yeah. 556 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 2: Now, look, no one's more aspirational for this country than 557 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 2: I am. But I mean, you know when Simon comes 558 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 2: on this program and goes, I'm going to get some 559 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 2: LNG going and he doesn't, And when for yet another 560 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: winter we need more coal because we haven't got any 561 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: gas and it doesn't rain enough and the wind doesn't 562 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: blow the good old stockpile and hope, Mike, how have 563 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 2: we become such a useless country in such a small 564 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: space of time. What a good question, Simon? Five minutes 565 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 2: away from seven, the in and the outs. 566 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business favor. Take your business productivity 567 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: to the next level now. 568 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: Baker, Tilly Staples Roadway have come to the party this 569 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 2: morning with another one of their super cool surveys, looking 570 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: at over two hundred businesses. What are we making of 571 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 2: the budget? Fifty seven percent believe the government is performing 572 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 2: well on the economy. Fifty seven percent. Good number compares 573 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 2: to just fourteen percent from the last pole that was 574 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: August of twenty three, so a big improvement. Thirty three 575 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: percent disagree. Might be the perception that businesses thought it 576 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: would be easier to operate under National, but fifty seven 577 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: thirty three they're winning same pole. In twenty three, eight 578 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: point five percent predicted a worse outcome for their own 579 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 2: business under National. This year's pole, it's thirty two percent 580 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 2: have performed worse. Over the last twelve months, Forty three 581 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: percent have seen a difference or no difference at all. 582 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 2: Top three concerns usual thing, cost of living, cost of 583 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: doing business, geopolitical issues. Found support for the government not 584 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 2: adding to inflation, so they're doing a good job on 585 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: that front, and that's true. The stats don't lie where 586 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: we seem to have inflation under control. RB next week 587 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: big day for them forty two percent. So this year's 588 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 2: budget will affect them negatively. That's miserable. How do you 589 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: know that? You haven't heard yet. How do you know 590 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: for how can so many people think, oh, it's not 591 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 2: going to be up for me. You don't know that 592 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: only twenty eight percent. So it'll be positive, mind you, 593 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: you don't know that either. As always businesses they want 594 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: action on the tax bans and the reduction in the 595 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: company tax rate, don't we all, we're apparently dropping our 596 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: hate on the capital gains. Those who strongly disagree with 597 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: capital gains has gone down from thirty nine to thirty one, 598 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 2: so just a third of people think capital gains is 599 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: a bad idea. So once Chris Hopkins is busied himself 600 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: defending the Maori Party, you might want to ask Chris 601 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: when's is capital gains tax going to be released? Because 602 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: that's coming in the life two distant future. Also yesterday 603 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: little bit of tax treatment. It's a bit dry. It 604 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: might help. It's not that big, but we will work 605 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: you through the detail of that in a couple of 606 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: months after the news. 607 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: Which is next the Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay 608 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: in the Know, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita, 609 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News togsad. 610 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: Be wanting seven past seven to more new tax treatment 611 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: out of Thursday's budget to help business. Foreign owned businesses 612 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: will be able to fund a bigger chunk of their 613 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: investments here through tax deductible debt. There's also a tax 614 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: treatment on employee share schemes, Queen City Laws, Marcus Beverage 615 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 2: Specializes and all this sort of thing and he's with us, 616 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: Marcus morning to you, what do you make money? Small 617 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: numbers doesn't change. Does it move the needle or are 618 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: we just a bit grateful for doing anything? 619 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 15: A bit of both. 620 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 19: I think it's signals that we're very much open for 621 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 19: business and it's sort of go west, young man, and 622 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 19: there's golden there beyonder hills, and we want to encourage 623 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 19: foreign investment and get some of the big infrastructure projects moving. 624 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 19: And to do that, we're saying yes makes Essentially, with 625 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 19: the thin capitals, you can set up holding company offshore 626 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 19: and have a debt between the companies and therefore make 627 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 19: less profit in New Zealand. So we're saying, yes, we'll 628 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 19: bend over, We'll let you make less profit here, but 629 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 19: please bring your funds in. 630 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: Does everybody do this globally? 631 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 19: I'm not one hundred percent sure about that, but it's 632 00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 19: generally they're based the thin cap les harmonized between most 633 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 19: Western jurisdictions. There is a bit of a catch me 634 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 19: if you can, mentality in parts of Asia compared to 635 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 19: the compliant sort of companies out of more of the 636 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 19: Anglo Saxon jurisdictions. But yeah, it's always been there. It's 637 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 19: a legitimate way of lessening the text burden, similar to 638 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 19: the film stuff that they've done recently. So we're saying, 639 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 19: come in, we'll let you pay this tax. So obviously 640 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 19: the government's listening to the top end of town. 641 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: The startup thing, I'm assuming it's for startups. You give 642 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: me a slice of the action instead of paying me 643 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: because you haven't got any cash. Is that a big deal? 644 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 2: Will that mean more startups or just easier for those 645 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 2: who already started up? 646 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 19: That's more to do it with the employees. We won't 647 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 19: wake you for the tax that you've made for your 648 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 19: big outs. It's a bit like the business migration. I mean, 649 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 19: that's the good news. 650 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 15: At the moment. 651 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 19: We've had six hundred women committed here in one month, 652 00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 19: and that could extrapolate that out over year. It's over 653 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 19: six billion dollars worth of money coming in for those people. 654 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 19: Of course, they don't need to be tax residents of 655 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 19: New Zealand unlike the USA folk, and they get a 656 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,959 Speaker 19: four year grace period on their worldwide tax income. So 657 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 19: that's just saying it's like the changes to the. 658 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 13: Fire for rules. 659 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 19: If you haven't actually realized any profit, you haven't sold anything, 660 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 19: so you've only paper money, we won't tax you on. 661 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: That makes perfect sense. They're starting in the Prime minister 662 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 2: years about the Golden Visa and the foreign Are we 663 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: pling all the levers here, Marcus, Are we doing all 664 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: we reasonably can to get our act together? 665 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 19: Well, we're trying to get rid of roadblocks. 666 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 13: We're halfway through this term. 667 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 19: To me, it's sort of underwhelming, and you know, once 668 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 19: it needs to get out of the way and we 669 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 19: need to really fire up and get rid of roadblocks 670 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 19: so that it's sort of where the rubber hits the road. 671 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 19: It really makes sense. And I think to me it's 672 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 19: underwhelming to be a year and a half through, you know, 673 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 19: election cycle, to kind of be tweaking stuff at this stage. 674 00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 13: I think they could have done. 675 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 19: A lot better, like like our friend Donald Trump, you know, 676 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 19: issuing edicts from day one. This has been cumbersome and slow. 677 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: Dog the place, Marcus. Appreciate your insight, Marcus Beverage, Queen 678 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: City Law Managing Director. As I've said a million times 679 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: on this program, that's the sort of view I get 680 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 2: a lot from business in this country. And when the 681 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 2: Prime Minister was sitting on this program in this very 682 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: studio yesterday saying we're a new government. I said, no, 683 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: you're not. You're a year and a half and we 684 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 2: could have done so much more. Ten minutes past seven Sciar, 685 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: nearly hours of our morning, the US presidents, as you 686 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: well aware, hit the phones and you had a chat 687 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 2: with Zelensky, had a chat with Putin. So where are we? 688 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: Act y based foreign policy and security analyst Jimmy Rushden 689 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 2: back with US. Jimmy morning, Good morning. I'm very well, 690 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 2: and I'm trying to work out what actually happened. Apart 691 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: from the you know, the niceties about it all, is 692 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: anyone getting together to actually talk about ending the war, 693 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: and you know, I don't know ending the war? 694 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 20: Not much happened, to be honest. Donald Trump and Vladimir 695 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 20: Putin had a lovely chat and apparently called each other 696 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 20: by first names and then did the kind of lovers 697 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 20: you know they're seeing the Reminds comedy where that each 698 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 20: one tries to tell the other to hang up first. 699 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 20: It was kind of It's it's really surreal to see 700 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 20: a US president essentially engaging in this dance with Putin, 701 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 20: who is clearly manipulating him and is clearly working him 702 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 20: like the you know, the x KDB officer that he is. 703 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 2: And so the Pope got involved and said, you can 704 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 2: use my place if you want. Is anybody using anybody's 705 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 2: place to do anything or is this just another week 706 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 2: of Turkey Turkey Turkey, whops, nothing happened. 707 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 20: Well, I think that the reason why Turkey is traditionally 708 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 20: used is because the Turks are trusted by both sides. 709 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 20: I think the Pope is obviously he's been very strong 710 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 20: pro Ukrainian. He met with Zelenski. It was actually his 711 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 20: first foreign leader that he met. You know, I think 712 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 20: that there you could argue that there has been a 713 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 20: positive step in regards to this prisoner exchange, this one 714 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 20: thousand for a thousand, which is apparently going to go 715 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 20: through in the next couple of days. But you know, 716 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 20: prison exchanges happened, happening throughout the war. Really that you know, 717 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 20: they've they've been kind of indirect contacts through the UAE 718 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 20: and other third party countries to arrange these. So you know, 719 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 20: it's there's really not a lot to talk about it. 720 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 20: It's Donald Trump again getting played by Putin and not 721 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 20: really understanding. 722 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 2: I'm glad that's exactly my scenes Yeah, what what do 723 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 2: I just don't know who to believe. Do I believe 724 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 2: Ruby or Jeddi Vance? So one day they're saying, look, 725 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: you guys, sort this out or we're out, or Rubios 726 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 2: said the other day, we're here until we get paced, 727 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: which is. 728 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 20: I don't even think they know to be honest. I 729 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 20: think Rubio obviously he's a traditional kind of Harpish Republican 730 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 20: and if he was president, he'd be handling this extremely differently. 731 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 20: With Vance, I think he generally tries to say anything 732 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 20: that he feels will resonate with the base, and you know, 733 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 20: please Trump. We saw that in the Oval office, for example, 734 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 20: when they had that massive bust with Zelenski. And yeah, 735 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,959 Speaker 20: I think there is a large case of really making 736 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 20: it up as they go along. They really don't have 737 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 20: this set goal. They think that they can, you know, 738 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 20: appeal to Putin's better interest to keep talking about this 739 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 20: destructive war where loads of people are dying, but Putin 740 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 20: just doesn't care about the lives of either his own 741 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 20: people or obviously Ukraine. 742 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: No, exactly, all right, Jimmy will start touch pretty sure. 743 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 2: Jimmy Rush and out of Keith for us this morning. 744 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 2: Mollie Mike, isn't it a sad reflection of government when 745 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 2: they have to close the Public Gallery for fear of violence. 746 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: What a disgrace. I mean yes, but I wouldn't have 747 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 2: kept it open today either, because I mean it's got 748 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 2: the potential will be a complete shambles. More on this 749 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 2: in just a moment with Lockwood Smith fourteen passed the. 750 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: Mike asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on. I have radio 751 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: powered by News Talks. 752 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 2: It'd be Mike, will we be able to watch the 753 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 2: Circus debate today? And of course you can Parliament every 754 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 2: time Parliament's on Parliament is televis. It's no problems at all. Now, 755 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,479 Speaker 2: speaking of which, sixteen minutes past seven could be another 756 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: day of shambles as the Privileges Committee recommendations around the 757 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 2: Murray Party rule breaking get debated in the postcare press yesterday, 758 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 2: there was no shortage of questions as to whether the 759 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 2: government wants to cut a deal. 760 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 21: The Privileges Committee make that decision. They are empowered. We 761 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 21: have representatives as every party does in the Privileges Committee 762 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 21: and the determination from the Privilege Committee we support exactly. 763 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 2: Former Speaker of the House of Lockwood Smith back whether 764 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 2: it's Lockwood Morning wedding Mate. The Jerry Browne reaction, I 765 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 2: got mixed messages. Either he seems sympathetic, you seem sympathetic 766 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 2: to the Marory party hents. Everybody speaks and everyone gets 767 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 2: an amendment and they speak to that amendment. The suggestion 768 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 2: from the Prime Minister on this program yesterday is those 769 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 2: are the rules and he couldn't do anything about it. 770 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 2: What's the truth? 771 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 11: Well, in fact, the Speaker can do something about it, Mike. 772 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 11: I mean, the first thing that obviously the Speaker would 773 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 11: have tried to do is get the Business Committee to 774 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 11: agree to how to handle the debate, and obviously that's failed, 775 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 11: it seems from what we've heard that's failed. So but 776 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 11: then the speaker has control because if the debate becomes 777 00:37:54,120 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 11: futile and just abuse a tirade, the Speaker can accept 778 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 11: a motion that the question be now put and so 779 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 11: so much will depend on the speaker's judgment of the 780 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 11: quality of the debate because a member can only speak once, 781 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 11: but if an amendment has moved, a speaker and a 782 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 11: member can speak again. So it could go on for 783 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 11: a long time. But the debate must be of good 784 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 11: quality for the speaker to accept that you know that 785 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 11: the speaker has huge power in Parliament. 786 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad to hear that. I just wasn't seeing 787 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 2: it from him the other day. And I don't want 788 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 2: to get you in trouble for criticizing the Speaker, but 789 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 2: he seems to have fallen short here at a moment 790 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 2: he could have owned it more, he didn't. Is that 791 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 2: fair or not? 792 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 11: Well? He made the point that it is important for 793 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 11: a speaker to take note of the of the needs 794 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 11: of the minority in Parliament and not just support automatically 795 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 11: a majority. As speaker, I always, if anything on the balance, 796 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 11: support of the opposition if you like, where there was 797 00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 11: a judgment a balance, But where a debate falls into 798 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 11: just abuse and something that's not up to the stands 799 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 11: of Parliament, the Speaker can accept as a motion that 800 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 11: the question been output and then the House votes on 801 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 11: that and the majority will win that vote. And so 802 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 11: the Speaker's judgment here is critically important and I think 803 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 11: it's up to the Speaker to make sure of this 804 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 11: debate that will be watched by many people actually shows 805 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 11: Parliament to be better that has been in the last 806 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 11: couple of weeks. 807 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 2: Would you have closed public gallery. 808 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 11: I think given the risks around this, it probably is 809 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 11: wise because if it'd got untidy, of course you'd have 810 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 11: to hold Parliament for a while while the gallery was cleared. 811 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,240 Speaker 11: And so I suppose that it is why since everyone 812 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 11: can watch, as you just said, on television and that's 813 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 11: so important. But this I think will be a test 814 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 11: of Speaker Brownley, because this is one where the Speaker's 815 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 11: judgment is actually going to be critically important. People must 816 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 11: see him to be ruling in a fair manner. But 817 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 11: you know, Parliament shouldn't is to you degrade into a mess. 818 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 11: And I've been worried for some time that the standards 819 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 11: in Parliament have slipped hugely in the last few years. 820 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 2: Could not agree more. It's sort of a moment in 821 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 2: time in many respects, isn't it. Lockward. Appreciate your time 822 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 2: as always so, Lockward Smith, former Speaker of the House. 823 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 2: Of course, we have more to say on this in 824 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 2: just a couple of moments. And as regards the budget, 825 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 2: Chris Bishop, Transport ministers hundreds more and more money. You 826 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 2: wonder where they're getting the money from. 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So this debate around the Privileges Committee and 855 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 2: their decision over the marry Party that starts today, as 856 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 2: we've said, set to be a long winded, largely pointless exercise. 857 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 2: So if you can be bothered, get a read on 858 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 2: where each of the parties stand why, because you will 859 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 2: find that some parties do not agree with the committee 860 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 2: and think the so called punishment is a little bit hard. Now. 861 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 2: The Prime Minister asked about this yesterday's post cabinet press conference. 862 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 2: In fact, they were the first questions asked, which was 863 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 2: a bit sad and yet again a reminder of how 864 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 2: the press gallery is not really interested in the news 865 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 2: of the day and perhaps even the good news of 866 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 2: the day, because the good news of the day came 867 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 2: from the Finance Minister who were standing next to them 868 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 2: at said conference and a bit busy up to the 869 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 2: question bit outlining some new tax treatment for investment and 870 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 2: payments for startups, the stuff we've just been talking about, 871 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 2: and business is looking for a bit of a relief 872 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 2: around rules and paperwork that got scant coverage despite the 873 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 2: fact these are the very sorts of issues, ideas, and 874 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 2: policies that will drag this beleagued economy out of the 875 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 2: quagmire it's currently stuck in. As regards the Privileges Committee, 876 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,760 Speaker 2: for the record, the PM stood firm on the ensuing 877 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 2: debate and whether or not by bargaining away the decision 878 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 2: it could expedite what could be days of time wasting. 879 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 2: Now why this matters is because standards matter, and standards 880 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,720 Speaker 2: in this country have become embarrassing. What the Maori Party 881 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 2: did was farcical as well as embarrassing. And it was 882 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 2: not because they're Maori or because what they did was Maori. 883 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 2: It was because they broke the rules and rules count 884 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 2: or should count, because when they don't, people like the 885 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 2: Mari Party into a lesser degree. The Labour Party and 886 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 2: the Greens bring us all into distribute. Believe it or not, 887 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 2: there are large swaths of this country that find what 888 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 2: has been happening at our highest level of leadership to 889 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 2: be completely and utterly shocking as well as embarrassing and needless, 890 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 2: and we're more than over it. And by asking where 891 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 2: the government can plea bargain it away so we can 892 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 2: skip a lengthy, boring debate is systematic and the problem itself. Oh, 893 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 2: I deal with it when we can ignore it or 894 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 2: water it down. If those who think this is all 895 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 2: okay want to debate it and remind us what mediocre 896 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:52,280 Speaker 2: looks like, that's on them, cosking Like I get the frustration, 897 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 2: but we are way down in the depths minimum two 898 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 2: terms required and that's reality. That is true, that's one 899 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 2: hundred percent true. But this is where the big debate 900 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 2: comes next year election year. Are the government going to 901 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 2: realistically be able to go? Look, give us more time. Yes, 902 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 2: it's still problematic, but give us more time given the 903 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,439 Speaker 2: damage we inherit it. That's the key to it all. Hey, 904 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 2: Trump's in the garden are talking about his phone call it. 905 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 22: We just spent two and a half hours talking to 906 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,439 Speaker 22: Vladimir Putin and I think some progress has been made. 907 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 22: It's a terrible situation going on over there, five thousand 908 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 22: young people every single week of being killed. So hopefully, 909 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 22: which is something we also spoke to the heads of 910 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 22: most of the European nations and we're trying to get 911 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 22: that whole thing wrapped up. What a shame that it 912 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,720 Speaker 22: ever started in the first place. 913 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, So if you can find a single piece 914 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 2: of tangible evidence that anything actually is going to happen 915 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 2: as a result of the phone call for that whole thing, 916 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 2: then let me know, Because guys, wrap it up. I 917 00:44:55,120 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 2: cannot find that anything's happened. Rayl millions hundreds of millions 918 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 2: more for rail as part of the budget. Will crunch 919 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 2: you through a few of these numbers with the Transport 920 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 2: Minister after the news, which is next. 921 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: It's your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts. 922 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover vi La 923 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: designed to intrigue and use Tod's. 924 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 2: Dead be Mike Trump said yesterday that no peace deal 925 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 2: would be reached without him present. Today he said, us 926 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 2: up to Russia from the Ukraine because they know the details. 927 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 2: All you're doing is regiterating what I think increasingly most 928 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 2: of us are coming to conclude, and that as he 929 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 2: makes it up as he goes along. Mike Brownlee has 930 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 2: to grow some balls. As Speaker today, watch Parliament regularly. 931 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 2: He's been very weak. Let's hope for change, you're not 932 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 2: going to get any change, and I tend to agree 933 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 2: with you. I had some hope when he started, but 934 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 2: I've lost most of it. Twenty three minutes away from 935 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 2: make Mary Bartlett's white lotus Any Murphy of shitz Creek. 936 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 2: They're together in an excellent new project. I'll tell you 937 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 2: about after right, Mayor rum with us on the programmering 938 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 2: shortly meantime back here. More money for rail. The budgets 939 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:05,399 Speaker 2: six hundred million dollars plus for upgrades and new infrastructure, 940 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 2: for sixty one for freight that transports thirteen percent of 941 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 2: our national freight. So for sixty one out of the 942 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 2: six hundred for that one hundred and forty three million 943 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 2: for the metro networks in Wellington and Auckland's lot of money, 944 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 2: isn't it? Transport Minister Chris Bishop with us morning. 945 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 15: Good morning. 946 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 2: Six hundred million dollars. Where on earth are you guys 947 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:22,919 Speaker 2: finding all this? 948 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 15: It's from the capital allowance. It's money for overdue renewals 949 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 15: in Auckland and Wellington, upgrading the reliability of the metropolitan 950 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 15: rail network. Very important and also investment into rail around 951 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 15: the country for the freight network as well. So it's 952 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 15: all from the capital allowance for the most part, and 953 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 15: it's an important thing to do. 954 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 2: So it's money you've already got that hasn't been spent. 955 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 15: We allocate a capital amount of money and every budget 956 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 15: it's called the capital allowance, and we draw it down 957 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 15: and obviously it's capital's but lumpy, so you allocate things 958 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 15: in previous years and the money actually gets spent in 959 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 15: future years. But it's schu'reccounting. 960 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 2: But yes, so you've already announced this money, so you're 961 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 2: re announcing the same money. 962 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 15: No, no, no, no, no, this is new money that's 963 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 15: comes out of this year's capital allowance. I'm just simply 964 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 15: making the point that sometimes things get allocated and the 965 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 15: money get spent later on. But this is new money 966 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 15: in this budget. 967 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 2: Okay, good, So we're not borrowing. My increasing concern around 968 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,280 Speaker 2: all these announcements as regards the budget as somebody's borrowing money. 969 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 2: Tell me you're not borrowing yet more money. 970 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 15: Well, the government is borrowing now, I. 971 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,320 Speaker 2: Know that, but more on what we already know about 972 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 2: this is my concern. All of the announcements you guys 973 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 2: have made so far equate to billions of dollars. Now, 974 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 2: either you've found fantastic savings, brilliant, well done, congratulations, or 975 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 2: you're borrowing more. 976 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 15: We are borrowing, but we we are delivering significant savings 977 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 15: in the budget that you'll see on Thursday, and you'll 978 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 15: see a pathway back to fiscal sustainability. But it's not 979 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 15: going to happen immediately, and it won't happen overnight. The 980 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 15: books that were left us by labor were a complete sham, 981 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 15: and you can't do everything well at the same time. 982 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 15: So we are mapping out a pathway back to fiscal reality. 983 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,280 Speaker 2: Good. I'm glad to hear that part, and we agree 984 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 2: with you on labor. But my concern is, given the 985 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 2: position we have currently in debt, we can't afford to 986 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 2: borrow more, and yet you're telling me we're borrowing even 987 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 2: more than we already are. 988 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 15: Well, we are going to continue to borrow in the budget. 989 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 15: You'll see the numbers and the forecast around debt to 990 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 15: GDP on Thursday. I'm not going to get ahead of these. 991 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 15: Are they worse than what I would understand them to 992 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 15: currently be? Well, we have an issue with debt in 993 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 15: this country in the sense that labor blew the box 994 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 15: by one hundred and twenty billion bucks and we've got 995 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 15: to get the debt to DDP level under control. Yes, 996 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 15: but we can't do that in one budget. That's going 997 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 15: to take time. But you'll see the plan on Thursday 998 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,240 Speaker 15: to get that under control. 999 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1000 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 2: I just don't want to getting worse in the meantime, 1001 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 2: is what I'm. 1002 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 15: Saying, Leather do I. And that's why we've got to 1003 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 15: go for growth, Mike. And that's why that's why all 1004 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 15: the things that the government's doing in the budget and 1005 00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 15: around the IRMA and fast Track and you know, building 1006 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 15: construction set to all of those things are really important 1007 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 15: to go for growth. 1008 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 2: Okay, four hundred and sixty one million dollars, how much 1009 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 2: of a patch up job is that versus what if 1010 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 2: you had all the money in the world, would it 1011 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 2: be a billion dollars or are you're patching the whole 1012 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 2: lot up with four sixty one. 1013 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 15: Oh no. Look, we've got significant rail investment required, particularly 1014 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 15: metropolitan network in the future years. So this provides two 1015 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 15: more years of funding for thet Brookland and will into 1016 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 15: metro networks. But to be honest, we are. You know, 1017 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 15: there's a significant funding investment required in the future years 1018 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 15: to keep the lights on on those networks because successive governments, 1019 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 15: this is unfortunate. Successive governments have neglected the basics and 1020 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 15: the maintenance on the network and so there's a enormous 1021 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,760 Speaker 15: amount of renewal required and we're now having to grapple 1022 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 15: with that problem. It's like many things this government is 1023 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 15: dealing with. We've inherited it, we don't like it, but 1024 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 15: we're just going to get on with it and deal 1025 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 15: with it. 1026 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 2: All right, appreciate it. Chris Bishop, who's the Transport minister? 1027 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 2: Do you share my same interest? I mean it's all 1028 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 2: going to be unveiled on Thursday, obviously, but are you 1029 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 2: bothered at all by the prospect of even more money? 1030 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 1: Now? 1031 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 2: It's important to differentiate and I'll come back to his 1032 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 2: What I would argue is potential obfuscation around some pretty 1033 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,280 Speaker 2: simple questions around debt. There is no question this government 1034 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 2: borrows money, and that's because we're running still a deficit 1035 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 2: each and every year. We spend more than we make. 1036 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 2: So we get that the numbers are out there. We 1037 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 2: understand the position that we're in what I do not 1038 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 2: want to see on Thursday is that borrowing and some 1039 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 2: and that's the critical part of this. Now I may 1040 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 2: be alone with this. Maybe we're all so far down 1041 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 2: the sinkhole nobody cares anymore and we can borrow to 1042 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,840 Speaker 2: We're blue in the face. Mike ambluxom ply bargains this. 1043 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 2: He's as bad as them, and a parliament is officially 1044 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 2: a circus. And that's what I liked about Luxelmon yesterday 1045 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 2: in the postcap press conference. He wasn't bargaining it. And 1046 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 2: these questions from the media, are you going to cut 1047 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 2: a bar and say what the hell? I'll come back 1048 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 2: to that as well, because I got name checked in 1049 00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 2: the press conference yesterday. People are becoming a bit obsessed 1050 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 2: about me. Labor are going to need to a majority 1051 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,839 Speaker 2: next to you, Mike. No way in hell are people 1052 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 2: want to get coalition with the Greens in the Married party. 1053 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 2: That is a major hurdle for the Labor Party, I 1054 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,720 Speaker 2: will grant you that, But do not underestimate the natural 1055 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 2: alignment between Labor and the Greens and the Marory Party 1056 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 2: on a lot of issues. As mad as it all 1057 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,240 Speaker 2: seems a lot of them within the Labor party actually 1058 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,280 Speaker 2: like each other, get on with each other, and align 1059 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 2: ideologically with each other, and you might find there's quite 1060 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 2: a number of people in this country that think it's 1061 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 2: not a bad idea. Seventeen to two. 1062 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 1063 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: by News. 1064 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 12: Talks ad Be. 1065 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 2: It is forteen minutes away from a So three times 1066 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 2: I ask Bishop about these borrowing. His first one, more, 1067 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 2: tell me you're not borrowing yet more money? 1068 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,240 Speaker 15: Well, the government is borrowing. 1069 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 2: Gave it another crack. Either you've found fantastic savings, brilliant, 1070 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 2: well done, congratulations, or you're borrowing more. 1071 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 15: We are borrowing. 1072 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 2: So I gave a third, go we can't afford to 1073 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 2: borrow more on you're telling me we're borrowing even more 1074 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 2: than we already are. 1075 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 15: Well, we are going to continue to borrow at the budget. 1076 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 2: So is he and I want to pull the rug 1077 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 2: out from under him. Is he arguing that we borrow, 1078 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 2: have borrowed, do borrow, and that's just going to continue? 1079 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 2: Which is it's not fine, but we understand it. The 1080 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 2: numbers are out there. Or did I ask a clear 1081 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 2: enough question that we are going to be borrowing even 1082 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 2: more than you thought we were and that then becomes 1083 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 2: a problem. 1084 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 18: Or is it? Just as the Prime Minister said yesterday, he's. 1085 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 2: So good, can I say to all the people listening here? 1086 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 2: And he tries to weasel it out of me, But 1087 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,280 Speaker 2: now we've got to wait till Thursday. Ah the Prime Minister, 1088 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 2: which brings us to the postcab yesterday and I was 1089 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 2: name checked by Radio Watias Gallery senior reporter Claudette Haiti and. 1090 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 23: This morning you are zb When you were talking to 1091 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 23: Mike Hoskins, he asked a question about the maorification of 1092 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,760 Speaker 23: New Zealand your support of the punitive measures leveled against 1093 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 23: the party Mardi. If we're going to try Standards Bill, 1094 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 23: the review into the quite Tony Tribunal and the now 1095 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 23: defunct Treaty Principles Bill, is that your is it the 1096 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 23: National Coalition government strategy and the demorification of New Zealand? 1097 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 2: She should work for Ari and she's very neutral, isn't she? Anyway? 1098 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 2: Luxean wasn't having any of it. 1099 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 21: I'm not characterizing it that way. 1100 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 13: We were. 1101 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,839 Speaker 21: Each of those issues are different issues and I'm happy 1102 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 21: to debate each and every one of them with you. 1103 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,720 Speaker 21: You know, as I said, and you want to bundle 1104 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 21: them all up and make a question like that, and 1105 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 21: I'm not responding. 1106 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 2: To that exactly. There was a reporter, I'm told from newsroom. 1107 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 2: No one could work out who it was. But anyway, though, 1108 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,319 Speaker 2: from newsroom, do you. 1109 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 19: Think it's racist to say that New Zealand is being mariified, 1110 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 19: that we're seeing the modification of New Zealand. 1111 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 21: Well, I wouldn't use those words a question that a 1112 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 21: member of the media asked me. All I'm just saying 1113 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 21: to you is that what we're interested in is the 1114 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 21: government's making sure we advance outcomes for Maori and non Mardi. 1115 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 2: Do you think a member of the media and I 1116 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 2: wouldn't use those words talk about throwing under the bus. 1117 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,320 Speaker 2: He better not turn up Monday because he's infuriating me already. 1118 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 2: Am I correct or am I correct? Did this government 1119 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,320 Speaker 2: led by the National Party promise to get rid of 1120 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,479 Speaker 2: the moraification of this country or not? Did they say 1121 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,959 Speaker 2: there are no Mari road signs, there are no Mari 1122 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 2: road names, that government departments are not going to be 1123 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 2: referred to first and foremost by their baron. Did they 1124 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 2: or did they not promise that that was part of 1125 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,280 Speaker 2: their government program? And every time I raise it, it's simply, 1126 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 2: why haven't you done what you've promised? And the answer 1127 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:46,879 Speaker 2: is a year and a half. And he was busy 1128 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 2: yesterday saying we're a new government when they're not a 1129 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 2: new government at all. 1130 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 14: Oh, come on, come on, give me a break, get. 1131 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 2: Away from me. 1132 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,720 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News talks 1133 00:54:58,719 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 1: dead They. 1134 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 2: I've got very very good news seven away from my 1135 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 2: very very good news. As I written in one of 1136 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,399 Speaker 2: the Australian papers the other day, the most sensitive issue 1137 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 2: in Washington at the moment is where's Millennia. I wasn't 1138 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 2: particularly sensitized by that, given I didn't think she was 1139 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 2: going to be showing up, and I was surprised in 1140 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 2: the campaign how much she did show up. And I 1141 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,399 Speaker 2: have fully assumed in the second term you'd literally never 1142 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,960 Speaker 2: see her, because why would she bother anyway, she turned 1143 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 2: up today. 1144 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,800 Speaker 24: Oscars Lady, My be Best initiative is focused on improving 1145 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:33,240 Speaker 24: children's while being encouraging kindness and creating a safer online 1146 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 24: environment for our youth. 1147 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 1: Today. 1148 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,280 Speaker 24: I'm proud to say that the values of be Best 1149 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 24: would be reflected in the law of the land asking. 1150 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,800 Speaker 2: So they signed a executive order and it's about deep 1151 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,800 Speaker 2: fakes and they're going to sort that whole thing out 1152 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 2: the net the war. 1153 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 18: Apparently the tech companies are going to have to take 1154 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 18: those deep fakes down. 1155 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 2: They're going to have to eat those deep fakes. That's 1156 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 2: what they're going to have to do. Capital spending MIC 1157 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 2: has been built on debt Forever, Auckland, harbor Bridge, IP. 1158 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,440 Speaker 2: I get that, and a lot of you have texted 1159 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,800 Speaker 2: and said that, and I agree with that. It depends 1160 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 2: on what you borrow and if you're borrowing to build 1161 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 2: and grow fully. 1162 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:12,879 Speaker 10: Get it. 1163 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 2: Problem at the moment, and Nicola Willis ran it the 1164 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 2: other day is we're one earthquake, one natural disaster, one 1165 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 2: major economic shock away from complete and utter fiscal meltdown 1166 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 2: in this country because we owe so much money now 1167 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 2: as a percentage of our GDP, we can't afford it. 1168 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 2: Even if we went out and said we want to 1169 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 2: build all the rail all the boats, all the ships, 1170 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 2: solve all our infrastructural problems tomorrow, we can't. We don't 1171 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,280 Speaker 2: have the headroom. That's what they say in financial circles. 1172 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 2: We don't have the headroom to be able to go 1173 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 2: out into the world without paying exorbitan its exorbitive amounts 1174 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 2: of interest on our debt. We currently pay nine billion 1175 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 2: dollars plus per year just on the interest on what 1176 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,360 Speaker 2: we owe nine billion dollars each and every year just 1177 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 2: on the interest. We're not paying it down, just on 1178 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 2: the interest. The more you borrow, that just goes up. 1179 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 2: It's already projected by the way to go up to 1180 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,880 Speaker 2: ten and then head to eleven. So how much do 1181 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,879 Speaker 2: you want to pay to you just on interest? Twenty thirty, 1182 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 2: forty to fifty billion? How many for goodness sake? And 1183 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 2: that's the problem. So we are in such a stuck 1184 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 2: place that we really can't afford, even if we wanted 1185 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 2: to to grow, afford to borrow anymore. Borrowing for vanity, 1186 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,600 Speaker 2: Mike and social engineering, this bad borrowing. Borrowing for growth 1187 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 2: and investment of a structure is good borrowing as it 1188 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 2: has payback. I agree with you. But when you can't 1189 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,919 Speaker 2: afford something, you simply can't afford. There's always a bill 1190 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,920 Speaker 2: with this sort of thing. By the way, here's something 1191 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 2: you wouldn't have known. But they're having a debate in Australia, 1192 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 2: and you know how you've got superannuation and it's compulsory 1193 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 2: there now and this is why we need to watch this. 1194 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 2: They've now decided to start taxing people who have got 1195 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 2: three million dollars or more in their superannuation accounts, so 1196 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,920 Speaker 2: they force you to save. And once you've saved and 1197 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 2: done well, and there are thousands of people who got 1198 00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,120 Speaker 2: three million dollars or more in their superannuation accunts, I'm 1199 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 2: going to tax you more. So if you get more, 1200 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 2: you get tax more. And that came out yesterday. One 1201 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 2: of the concerns about that is that if you've got 1202 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 2: wealthy people who are in the workforce, they'll go, you 1203 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 2: know what, stuff here, I'm not going to work anymore. 1204 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to retire. The wealthy, the successful will retire. 1205 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 2: And the Australian economy already recorded as of yesterday close 1206 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 2: to the worst productivity performance in the developed world. So 1207 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 2: for all the New Zealander's tens of thousands of them 1208 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 2: that are scarpering across there to the new bright and 1209 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 2: wonderful life, it's one of the worst productive places in 1210 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 2: the world, which brings me and I don't have time now, 1211 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 2: but I will do it later on in the program. 1212 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 2: What you need to earn in Australia to be in 1213 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 2: the top one percent in different suburbs. And the key 1214 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 2: to it was the average annual income in Sydney is 1215 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 2: eighty two thousand dollars. The median income is fifty eight 1216 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. So for all the people who go I 1217 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 2: can go to Australia and they'll triple my salary. Mainly, 1218 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 2: it's crap. It simply isn't true. Otherwise you wouldn't have 1219 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 2: an average salary of eighty two thousand in the most 1220 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,400 Speaker 2: expensive city in Australia and a median wage of fifty 1221 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 2: eight two hundred dollars. Let's get into a bit of 1222 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 2: Tally Murray Bartlett and Annie Murphy. But moments away you're 1223 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 2: on the mic hosting Breakfast. 1224 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:17,920 Speaker 11: The news is just. 1225 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 1: The news and the news makers the Mic Hosking Breakfast 1226 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 1: with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial 1227 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,920 Speaker 1: and rural news talks that'd. 1228 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 9: Be strange effect. 1229 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 2: It is seven past eight nine. Perfect Strangers came out 1230 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, was generally seen as a hit. 1231 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 2: I thoroughly enjoyed it. My wife was circumspect on it. 1232 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 2: I thought it was good Anyway Nicole Kidman's Start strangers 1233 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 2: come together for a retreat, they connector but you don't 1234 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 2: know how. It was set in Australia. Now we've got 1235 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,840 Speaker 2: season two, which is sit in Austria and Murray Bartlet 1236 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 2: and Any Murphy are two at the Stars. Butlet when 1237 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 2: of course an Emmy for his role as resort manager 1238 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,840 Speaker 2: in the first season of White Lotus. Andy Murphy is 1239 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,440 Speaker 2: best known as Alexis on Shit's Creek. Anyway, Murray and 1240 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 2: Any both were this good morning fun back at you, Annie. 1241 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 2: Have you seen it in totality and if so, what 1242 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:18,439 Speaker 2: do you make of it? 1243 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 25: I've experienced it in totality. 1244 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,640 Speaker 9: I've only watched the first four right. 1245 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 25: It is a wild, unhinged ramp of a season of television, 1246 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 25: and it is We were so lucky. The cast is 1247 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 25: so extraordinary and the crew was so extraordinary, and so 1248 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 25: were we really really looked out with everybody involved in 1249 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 25: this full world ride. 1250 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 2: What did you know going into it? Did you see 1251 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 2: season one where you a fan? Have you heard of 1252 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,360 Speaker 2: it at all? 1253 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 9: I of course had heard of it. 1254 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 25: I watched it after getting the offer for season two. 1255 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 9: I did a full binge and it was so exciting. 1256 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 25: The thing that was most exciting to me was the 1257 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,280 Speaker 25: ensemble nature of all of it, knowing that I was 1258 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 25: about to go into this you know, long shoots that 1259 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,920 Speaker 25: we were there for six months in Munich with a 1260 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:16,400 Speaker 25: whole bunch of really talented, really theater dorky actors, and 1261 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 25: so I was I was thrilled by the prospect. 1262 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 2: What about you, Murray, what did you know of it? 1263 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 17: I'd watched the first season and I really loved the 1264 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 17: whole premise of the show, so I, like I dove 1265 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,680 Speaker 17: in and devoured it. So I was super excited to 1266 01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,080 Speaker 17: be part of the second season. 1267 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 2: Do you think this has got legs? And this question 1268 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 2: is applicable to both of you, because if you look 1269 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 2: at White Lotus, Murray, that's got legs, that changes lives. 1270 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 2: It's a thing. Could this be a thing? I think 1271 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 2: it is a thing. 1272 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,880 Speaker 17: I think you know it's it's a It is a product, 1273 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 17: as White Lotus was of a time when we were 1274 01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 17: all locked down, so we were looking for shows where 1275 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,040 Speaker 17: we could all be locked down together and make a 1276 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,680 Speaker 17: TV show. So I but I think it's a it's 1277 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 17: a great concept for how to shoot a TV show. 1278 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 17: It it I and I had this experience on White 1279 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:15,040 Speaker 17: Lotus and on nine Perfect Strangers where you're all transplanted 1280 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,720 Speaker 17: to another place. You kind of, you know, in each 1281 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 17: other's worlds the whole time as characters and its people, 1282 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,280 Speaker 17: and there's something really beautiful about that that translates into 1283 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:24,680 Speaker 17: the show. 1284 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 19: I think. 1285 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,080 Speaker 17: So, I think it's I think it's got legs and 1286 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 17: it's running on them. 1287 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 2: Are you desperate to be back for season three? 1288 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 9: I don't think we'd be welcome back. I don't think either. 1289 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 25: I think the whole thing is that you toss, you 1290 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 25: toss what you had, and you get a whole new 1291 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 25: batch of people. 1292 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 17: And it's very complete this season, you know. I mean, 1293 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 17: I'm sure we could see where these characters go. 1294 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 9: Who knows. 1295 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,720 Speaker 17: I mean, I'm open to it. But I think it's 1296 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 17: the sort of design of the show that is that 1297 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 17: if there was a third season, it'd probably be a 1298 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 17: whole new group of people. 1299 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,920 Speaker 2: Is that the word it's going any because I mean 1300 01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 2: the White logsest thing you will have followed as much 1301 01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,720 Speaker 2: as anybody else, And once upon a time, say Shit's 1302 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 2: Creek for example, what you do as you start, you 1303 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 2: get a hit, then you get another season of the 1304 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,400 Speaker 2: hit third season and so it goes for its entirety 1305 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 2: for an arc, whatever it may be. These things White 1306 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 2: Loatus seems to be a The cast come in, some die, 1307 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 2: some don't, some never come back. So you do your 1308 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 2: thing and then you move on to other things. Is 1309 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 2: that how it works? 1310 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 25: I mean with this show, that that's how it works. 1311 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 25: And it's you know, it's so bittersweet because you get 1312 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 25: so close with this group of people and I've been 1313 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 25: saying it did feel like you were with a theater 1314 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,040 Speaker 25: troupe because of the amount of time that we spent 1315 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 25: together and then but for this particular show, I think 1316 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,919 Speaker 25: we all knew that it wasn't We most likely weren't 1317 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,800 Speaker 25: going to carry on to a season three, and so 1318 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 25: we just tried our best to make the most of it. 1319 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 9: Will we had that time together, all right? 1320 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 2: Listen to Hold On You two, Annie Murphy and Mary 1321 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 2: Bartlett nine Perfect Strangers are Good. The details will when 1322 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 2: it dropped shortly more in the Moment though. Eleven past eight. 1323 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 1: Um Cosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio powered 1324 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 1: by News Talk. 1325 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 2: Zippy Talk Me. Fourteen Past Night, Murray bart La, Danny 1326 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 2: Murphy with Us non perfect Strangers by the ways out 1327 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 2: this Thursday Prime Video, a couple of episodes drop, and 1328 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,080 Speaker 2: then it's weekly after that. Anyway, so this time you're 1329 01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,400 Speaker 2: talking about any so that this buying that you know, 1330 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 2: there's so much time involves so much sort of this 1331 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 2: extended period of six months in the snow apart from 1332 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 2: anything else. I mean, that's a big ask, isn't it. 1333 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:32,160 Speaker 9: You know what, I love snow. I'm one of those. 1334 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 25: I'm one of those it loves a good snow swore 1335 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 25: when I go to winter experience. But no, I mean, 1336 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 25: you know it was post COVID, post strike. It was 1337 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 25: this incredible opportunity to go and travel and meet new people. 1338 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 25: And yes, it was tough being away from my loves at. 1339 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 9: Home for six months. 1340 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 25: But smoke them while you got them, you know, just 1341 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 25: I'm trying to take every opportunity I possibly can. 1342 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 2: Watch come while you've got them. 1343 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 1: I've never right, Mike, you may not have heard of that, 1344 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:05,240 Speaker 1: But that's how we roll. 1345 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:06,640 Speaker 2: Is that? Like? 1346 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:07,000 Speaker 1: Is that? 1347 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,560 Speaker 2: What is that? Is that a Canadian North American thing? 1348 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,080 Speaker 2: You smoke them while you got them. 1349 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,280 Speaker 9: That's just why we did the whole show. We just 1350 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:14,160 Speaker 9: smoked them while. 1351 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:14,480 Speaker 1: We had them. 1352 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 2: Do you know, Murray, whether they think about and putting 1353 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 2: an ensemble cast together for such a sustained period of 1354 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,320 Speaker 2: time with all the egos in the room, do they 1355 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,440 Speaker 2: work through who it is there hiring and whether it's 1356 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,640 Speaker 2: actually going to work in a confined space. 1357 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:34,360 Speaker 1: It's a good question. 1358 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,560 Speaker 17: I mean, I guess it depends what the result that 1359 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 17: they they they want, you know, I guess they could 1360 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,920 Speaker 17: they could decide they wanted to have like a really 1361 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 17: kind of intense, sort of combative experience, So maybe they 1362 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 17: that's that's how they choose people. Fortunately, with this they 1363 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 17: they it seemed like they were going for harmony because 1364 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 17: we all loved each other. What was interesting I think 1365 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:58,360 Speaker 17: about this this group of people is that we're all 1366 01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:02,920 Speaker 17: very different sort of personalities and the characters are very different. 1367 01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 17: So it's it's kind of an experiment putting very very 1368 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:10,080 Speaker 17: different personalities together in this way. But yeah, whatever they 1369 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 17: were doing, they chose really well because we we we 1370 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,080 Speaker 17: had a great time. We connected really well as actors 1371 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 17: and also as people, So you can't really ask for 1372 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:18,840 Speaker 17: more than that. 1373 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 2: Annie, how much of the cast or how many of 1374 01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,920 Speaker 2: the cast did you know? And of those who didn't. 1375 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 2: How many did you google and check out? 1376 01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:32,520 Speaker 9: I knew what was her name? Nicole Kidman knew her. 1377 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 18: We both heard of her. 1378 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I had to IMDb her, google her up. 1379 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,440 Speaker 9: She's really she's done a lot of stuff. 1380 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean, I of course knew Murray and was 1381 01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:48,480 Speaker 25: such a massive, massive, massive fan of his. Christine Baranski, 1382 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 25: who is truly one of the most incredible women I've met. 1383 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 25: I knew her, I knew Henry. 1384 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,040 Speaker 9: Golding, and then everyone else I did. 1385 01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 25: I did Google up and I was thrilled to, you know, 1386 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:07,080 Speaker 25: realize what a truly motley crew they wrangled together. 1387 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,200 Speaker 9: We yeah, it just it really did work out, because 1388 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:15,520 Speaker 9: it doesn't. It doesn't always work out that everyone kind. 1389 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 17: Of is like, you know, especially for a show, for 1390 01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,240 Speaker 17: a job that's like six months and we're all, you know, 1391 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 17: like transplanted together. 1392 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 9: It was, Yeah, we were. 1393 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 11: We were very. 1394 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,200 Speaker 2: Fortunate, fantastic. Any how much time and effort and energy 1395 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 2: and thought did you put into what happens post Shit's Creek? 1396 01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 2: Not enough? 1397 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:44,480 Speaker 25: Apparently, you know what it was. It was a bit 1398 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,680 Speaker 25: of a not a rude awakening. But it's always no 1399 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,920 Speaker 25: matter what the show is or how much success it 1400 01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 25: has you do kind of commit yourself to an amount 1401 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:57,960 Speaker 25: of time and relationships with people, and Shit's creek was, 1402 01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:02,800 Speaker 25: you know, seven years of my life, really big, special, important, 1403 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,040 Speaker 25: life changing years, and so you don't really want to 1404 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,560 Speaker 25: think about what comes next, and then it ends, and 1405 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,680 Speaker 25: then you're just kind of sitting there trying to figure 1406 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,880 Speaker 25: out if you're Alexis or you're any and if you 1407 01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:16,480 Speaker 25: can be anyone but Alexis. 1408 01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,120 Speaker 9: And so it was. 1409 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,519 Speaker 25: It was an adjustment, for sure, and that's why I 1410 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,840 Speaker 25: really wanted to challenge myself with something very very different 1411 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,000 Speaker 25: with the next show that I did, and I still 1412 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,040 Speaker 25: I want to keep challenging myself and do with things 1413 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:30,599 Speaker 25: as possible. 1414 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well as the song when you're a little bit 1415 01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 2: of Alexis, aren't you. 1416 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:34,760 Speaker 9: Always a little bit? 1417 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1418 01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:36,759 Speaker 18: Thank god? 1419 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,439 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Well listen, good luck with us and maybe 1420 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,439 Speaker 2: season three, who knows, But nice to meet and talk 1421 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,960 Speaker 2: with you, and I hope it works out well. Thanks 1422 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:48,080 Speaker 2: So Nach Murray Bartlett, Annie Murphy nine Perfect Strangers Prime 1423 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,280 Speaker 2: video This Thursday, two episodes dropped, then you got weekly 1424 01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 2: after that. If you haven't. The Prime Minister and I 1425 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:54,680 Speaker 2: were talking about this off here. He's just into it 1426 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 2: now Mobland just it's got the buzz and so it started. 1427 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 2: I started binging on about it about six or seven 1428 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,280 Speaker 2: weeks ago, and it's now got the buzz whim enough 1429 01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,320 Speaker 2: people have seen it, so you no longer go what even. 1430 01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,559 Speaker 18: I was at dinner with a couple on Saturday night 1431 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:10,600 Speaker 18: and they said we had to watch it. 1432 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 2: Moblands where it's at? And it was suggested on the 1433 01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 2: socials that last night. And when I said last night, 1434 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,639 Speaker 2: we watched it last night when it dropped and last 1435 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:25,639 Speaker 2: night's episode was the best episode yet. I'm not convinced 1436 01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,439 Speaker 2: that's true. But it's right up there, and it leaves 1437 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 2: you a wanting more, but b second guessing and third 1438 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,080 Speaker 2: guessing and fourth guessing as to what the next twist is. 1439 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,080 Speaker 2: The twist from last night's show, Katie goes, by the 1440 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 2: end of it, I am so proud of myself. I 1441 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,599 Speaker 2: guessed exactly what would happen? 1442 01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,519 Speaker 18: Do you have any recollection of her making that guess? 1443 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:52,599 Speaker 2: No, I said, I said, I didn't see it coming. 1444 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,720 Speaker 2: She goes, Oh, I did, And so I can't tell 1445 01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:57,320 Speaker 2: you what it is because it'll ruin it. 1446 01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,960 Speaker 18: But is she doing as a revision? Isn't it that 1447 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:05,640 Speaker 18: revisionist history podcast where she just says, I knew it 1448 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:06,320 Speaker 18: was got to happen. 1449 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew that was going So anyway, that's Mobland 1450 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,920 Speaker 2: and nine Perfect Strangers once again from our house. I 1451 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,120 Speaker 2: thought the first season was really good. It's eclectic and weird, 1452 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,120 Speaker 2: but I thought it was good. Katie gave it probably 1453 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,679 Speaker 2: a six out of ten, but she saw. 1454 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,519 Speaker 18: That he's a hard marker, isn't she very very. 1455 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,840 Speaker 2: Hard marker on all of us? 1456 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:30,480 Speaker 1: Cleant eight twenty the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Vida Retirement 1457 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 1: Communities News togs he'd be. 1458 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 2: Mike Cadie was spot on with the rating nine Perfect Strangers. 1459 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,360 Speaker 2: I thought was pretty average. The trick I'd learned from 1460 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,960 Speaker 2: experience with Katie is basically, you agree with her and go. 1461 01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,679 Speaker 2: She goes it's pretty average. You go, yeah, it's pretty average. 1462 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,080 Speaker 2: I agree with you. Stuff like that. I was thinking 1463 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:47,800 Speaker 2: during the break funnily enough, lux and when he came 1464 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,519 Speaker 2: in yesterday started talking about Mobland. Mobland, by the way, 1465 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:56,160 Speaker 2: does not have season two confirmed. Mobland's fantastic Mike brosn 1466 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,839 Speaker 2: As accent is dreadful. I don't think it's dreadful. Pete 1467 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 2: it's just you've heard. And my summation was Katie disagreed 1468 01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,559 Speaker 2: with me, perhaps not surprisingly, but my summation was, you 1469 01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:11,000 Speaker 2: know him as nothing else than British and Bond and 1470 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 2: so British and so bond that when he tries something else, 1471 01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,880 Speaker 2: you think that's dreadful. I don't think it's actually dreadful. 1472 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 2: He does an Irish accent. I don't think it's that dreadful. 1473 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,840 Speaker 2: It's pretty average. I'm sure Katie would agree with me, 1474 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,920 Speaker 2: but even if she didn't, doesn't matter as long as 1475 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:23,559 Speaker 2: you agree with her. 1476 01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,640 Speaker 18: I mean, I always thought that Hugh Laurie's accent in 1477 01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:30,000 Speaker 18: House was absolutely abysmal. You and yet people will love 1478 01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:31,320 Speaker 18: that program and it went for seasons. 1479 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,519 Speaker 2: Smash it anyway. So Lux comes in, you say, starts 1480 01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,680 Speaker 2: talking about Mobland, and then he talks about something that 1481 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,679 Speaker 2: Katie put up on the social media over the weekend. 1482 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,360 Speaker 2: I know nothing about this stuff because I'm not on 1483 01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,599 Speaker 2: social media. So she does a lot of stuff behind 1484 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,360 Speaker 2: my back that leads to much hilarity around the country 1485 01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 2: and people think I'm some sort of weirdo and fool. 1486 01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,080 Speaker 2: He comes and he's seen that and starts telling me 1487 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,720 Speaker 2: about that. As well. So all I'm surmising from the 1488 01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 2: Prime Minister's weekend is he's been watching social media and 1489 01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:01,559 Speaker 2: he's been watching Mobland, and you wonder why we've still 1490 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:06,479 Speaker 2: got the verification of the country. Claudette whatever her name was. 1491 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:13,919 Speaker 2: Mobland hasn't got season two, but Your Friends and Neighbors 1492 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,439 Speaker 2: has but Friends and Neighbors, which I'm also watching, which 1493 01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:18,960 Speaker 2: is very, very good. 1494 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,320 Speaker 18: This is the latest John Hamm, John. 1495 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,679 Speaker 2: Hamm, and it's coming to a conclusion and I can't 1496 01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,080 Speaker 2: see how it has season two. I can't see where 1497 01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,360 Speaker 2: it goes, whereas I can see where Mobland goes, but 1498 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,320 Speaker 2: they don't have season two, so I don't know what's 1499 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:34,160 Speaker 2: going on anyway. 1500 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,160 Speaker 18: Meanwhile, season three of The Diplomat hasn't even come out 1501 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,840 Speaker 18: yet and they've already confirmed season four. 1502 01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,719 Speaker 2: Too intense. That woman, whoever, she is way too intense. 1503 01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:43,840 Speaker 18: So that's what I love about it. 1504 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:44,559 Speaker 2: Do you care? 1505 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:45,120 Speaker 18: I love her? 1506 01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,439 Speaker 2: The best piece and I read yesterday was from Mike Thorpe, 1507 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,080 Speaker 2: who we worked together on seven Sharp for a period 1508 01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,599 Speaker 2: of time before we both realized that there was life 1509 01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,760 Speaker 2: outside of that and we've moved on to better things. 1510 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,360 Speaker 2: One of the things he's moved on is writing an 1511 01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:01,240 Speaker 2: article about Christich Stadium and which is going to open 1512 01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:06,760 Speaker 2: very shortly. And the suites, the flash seats are oversubscribed, 1513 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:11,040 Speaker 2: so good news part number one. For a suite, you're 1514 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:16,840 Speaker 2: paying four thousand, seven hundred and thirty seven dollars per 1515 01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:26,200 Speaker 2: year per person. And that does not include concerts, all 1516 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:30,560 Speaker 2: black tests or anything that I can work out exciting. 1517 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,320 Speaker 18: How many in the suite, how many persons per suite? 1518 01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:40,720 Speaker 2: It depends. The biggest is sixty. I don't need to 1519 01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:44,679 Speaker 2: say I don't need to say anything more. You can't 1520 01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:51,519 Speaker 2: sugn you can't sum it up any better than that. 1521 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:56,120 Speaker 18: That's the noise that somebody like bells, you know, digger higher. 1522 01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,040 Speaker 18: So what I'm going to do it gets the bill 1523 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,600 Speaker 18: for it goes. That's it. 1524 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,360 Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm going to work you through the numbers here 1525 01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,920 Speaker 2: because what they're expecting you to pay for a sweet 1526 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,960 Speaker 2: seat is incredible. Good on them because they're oversubscribed. So 1527 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:15,080 Speaker 2: clearly the demand is there, but the numbers are iwatering more. 1528 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,920 Speaker 2: In just a couple of moments here with News Talks D. 1529 01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:22,479 Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day the 1530 01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:27,320 Speaker 1: my casting breakfast with a Vita retirement communities, life your 1531 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:28,679 Speaker 1: Way news togs head been. 1532 01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,559 Speaker 2: How many hundreds of you have texted with the break 1533 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:36,440 Speaker 2: well breaking news to me? But it makes the story ridiculous. 1534 01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,000 Speaker 2: So and this has been a big deal in Britain 1535 01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,000 Speaker 2: of all places. In fact, one of the tabloids the 1536 01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,520 Speaker 2: other day was trying to run the headline that probably 1537 01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,360 Speaker 2: two things were going to happen. Mobland was not going 1538 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,840 Speaker 2: to get season two, and if it did get season two, 1539 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,320 Speaker 2: Pierce Brosnan could not be in it because his Irish 1540 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,920 Speaker 2: accent is so appalling. But as you quite rightly pointed out, 1541 01:14:56,360 --> 01:15:00,920 Speaker 2: he is Irish. So it's almost impossible to criticize a 1542 01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:05,559 Speaker 2: person from Ireland and their Irish accent given its all things. 1543 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,400 Speaker 18: I mean, I haven't watched it. Is there a reason 1544 01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,280 Speaker 18: that he couldn't have been Irish in the first place? 1545 01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:11,519 Speaker 2: Now? 1546 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 18: Is he supposed to be? 1547 01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,120 Speaker 2: He's just a gangster, so he could have been from 1548 01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,720 Speaker 2: anywhere in Britain or Island, could have been Scottish. May 1549 01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:18,559 Speaker 2: I buy me, mate? 1550 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,600 Speaker 18: I mean, didn't they make a whole movie about gangsters 1551 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:22,840 Speaker 18: called The Irishman? 1552 01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:26,360 Speaker 2: Correct? By the way, new details on our tourism sector 1553 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,120 Speaker 2: this morning from the WTTC, which is the World Traveled 1554 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,120 Speaker 2: and Tourism Council. It's going to contribute fifty seven point 1555 01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 2: two billion to the national economy this year, which surpasses 1556 01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:36,680 Speaker 2: This is the key to this, despite the fact we're 1557 01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,040 Speaker 2: stuck on eighty six percent of actual arrivals, surpassing the 1558 01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:44,880 Speaker 2: pre pandemic levels. Domestic visitors, that's you and me. We 1559 01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,439 Speaker 2: account for seventy percent of traveled spending. Seventy percent of 1560 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,880 Speaker 2: all trips are taken for leisure, so mainly when we're 1561 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,200 Speaker 2: on a plane, we're going on holiday. It supports over 1562 01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,360 Speaker 2: four hundred and seventy nine thousand jobs in the country 1563 01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 2: that will grow to six hundred and thirty twenty thirty 1564 01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:01,320 Speaker 2: five and tourism now accounts for almost fourteen percent of 1565 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,559 Speaker 2: the government revenue. So she's a big industry. She's growth industry. 1566 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,439 Speaker 2: We just need to do more than we have to 1567 01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,360 Speaker 2: not only increase the income that get the number of 1568 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,919 Speaker 2: people back into the country. Twenty two minutes away from nine. 1569 01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:16,360 Speaker 1: International correspondence with Insigneye Insurance, Peace of mind for New 1570 01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:17,360 Speaker 1: Zealand business. 1571 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,439 Speaker 2: Right to Britain, we go for Rodrichard Morning Morning Made. 1572 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,960 Speaker 13: It could be Roderick, but thank you. I don't often 1573 01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:23,280 Speaker 13: get that. 1574 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,360 Speaker 2: Well, there we go. It would be sir Roderick if 1575 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:26,880 Speaker 2: I had anything to do with it. But that's for 1576 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:32,960 Speaker 2: another day, another day. So the best headline I read 1577 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:37,040 Speaker 2: was Starmer is banking on Britain being over Brexit. So 1578 01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,640 Speaker 2: in other words, he's burning political capital on this. Do 1579 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:41,479 Speaker 2: you think they've got a point or is he in trouble? 1580 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,760 Speaker 13: It's odd for me to say this, but I think 1581 01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,919 Speaker 13: he does have a point. I think we are over Brexit. 1582 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,280 Speaker 13: I think that a lot of the people, I think 1583 01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,080 Speaker 13: all of the people who go to press it now 1584 01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,639 Speaker 13: think they should not have vot depressed it. They'll still 1585 01:16:55,720 --> 01:17:00,400 Speaker 13: vote reform, you know, the same problems lie there which 1586 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:05,400 Speaker 13: made them vote Brexit, which was a disaffection with Westminster 1587 01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,400 Speaker 13: and an alienation from all the major parties. So they're 1588 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,519 Speaker 13: still with reform. But I do think Brexit has receded 1589 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,240 Speaker 13: into the distance a little bit. And okay, we've had 1590 01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,880 Speaker 13: Magel Farage and Boris Johnson both coming out and say 1591 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,920 Speaker 13: he's selling us down the river. I'm not sure it's 1592 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:25,800 Speaker 13: a great deal that Starmar is striking. I don't quite 1593 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,880 Speaker 13: see what we get in detail from it. But I 1594 01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:34,280 Speaker 13: don't think there's an enormous animus at large in the public, 1595 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:38,360 Speaker 13: amongst the Brexit support in public for saying no, don't 1596 01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:42,000 Speaker 13: do this, this is a no go. I don't get 1597 01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,479 Speaker 13: the feeling that that's the point. I may be wrong. 1598 01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:49,400 Speaker 2: Is this potentially some sort of trojan horsters more weathers 1599 01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,080 Speaker 2: came from open the door and see how it flies 1600 01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:53,080 Speaker 2: off we go again. 1601 01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:58,760 Speaker 13: It could be, It could be. We can't forget that 1602 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:06,559 Speaker 13: Sekir Starmer was fit naterally against Bressit right from the start, 1603 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,120 Speaker 13: and so was the vast majority, I think, all of 1604 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:15,160 Speaker 13: his cabinet. But you know, if we take him at 1605 01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:17,760 Speaker 13: his word that what he's trying to do is get 1606 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:22,519 Speaker 13: a better deal for Britain whilst trying to improve our 1607 01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:27,280 Speaker 13: trading relations which did need improving with the EU. You know, 1608 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:32,160 Speaker 13: the EU behave towards Great Britain with enormous spite in 1609 01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:35,360 Speaker 13: the first few years of Brexit, and we've never really 1610 01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:39,120 Speaker 13: recovered from that night. And so if this is a 1611 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,120 Speaker 13: kind of reset, and there are a few things to 1612 01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:47,439 Speaker 13: worry about, such as fishermen's rights and particularly the number 1613 01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:51,400 Speaker 13: of young people coming here, possibly working as chief labor. 1614 01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:55,280 Speaker 13: Those are problems. Those are problems, but I don't think 1615 01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:56,240 Speaker 13: they're in Superbowl. 1616 01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,840 Speaker 2: Okay, then you get to the deal what he gave 1617 01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,400 Speaker 2: versus what she as bend Layin gave up as a 1618 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,280 Speaker 2: deal forget Brixit is it who wins or is it 1619 01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:07,040 Speaker 2: even Stevens? 1620 01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:11,280 Speaker 13: I think at the moment the EU as one, but 1621 01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,960 Speaker 13: then the EU is in the much stronger corner. I 1622 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:19,920 Speaker 13: haven't seen yet in solid terms what we have got 1623 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,840 Speaker 13: from this deal, and in a way, one should hold 1624 01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,479 Speaker 13: judgment on the whole thing until we know exactly what 1625 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,000 Speaker 13: we have got from this. You know, we're told it'll 1626 01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:34,360 Speaker 13: be easier for British trade and we're told that it 1627 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,840 Speaker 13: will make relations far more stable over the coming I 1628 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,800 Speaker 13: want to know in detail what we've got, and we 1629 01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,519 Speaker 13: don't have any of that detail yet. 1630 01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:46,040 Speaker 2: Okay. From this side, Gary Lineker is going I thought 1631 01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,120 Speaker 2: he was, but then he was and he was going 1632 01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:49,880 Speaker 2: to do some other form of football. I mean, it's 1633 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,879 Speaker 2: all too damn confusing for me, but not the greatest 1634 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,880 Speaker 2: way to win. What, by all mine understanding is a 1635 01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:56,759 Speaker 2: pretty stellar career. 1636 01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,679 Speaker 13: Stellar career twenty five years as the presenter of most 1637 01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:08,280 Speaker 13: BBC Football and enormous household figure and a superlative broadcaster 1638 01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,120 Speaker 13: on football. What let him down was the fact that 1639 01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:15,639 Speaker 13: he tweeted every few It was it was a kind 1640 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:20,439 Speaker 13: of acted prop lefty who would tweet every day of 1641 01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:24,000 Speaker 13: the week about things about which he knew absolutely nothing. 1642 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,519 Speaker 13: You want to know why England didn't win the last 1643 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,320 Speaker 13: World Cup, ask Gary Lineker. He will give you a 1644 01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:35,679 Speaker 13: very clear and accurate summation of that. Ask him about 1645 01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,240 Speaker 13: the Middle East conflict and you are in the hands 1646 01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,160 Speaker 13: of a moron. And that is what gone on for 1647 01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:45,760 Speaker 13: BBC's nerves. And eventually it was one tweet too far 1648 01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:51,360 Speaker 13: for going LINKA and he's gone. I think you know, 1649 01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:54,519 Speaker 13: I don't know what you think about this, min I 1650 01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,720 Speaker 13: think it would be better if all BBC presenters were 1651 01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:01,040 Speaker 13: allowed to say what they thought. Tell you why, if 1652 01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,799 Speaker 13: we knew that, they wouldn't be able to claim neutrality anymore. 1653 01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,880 Speaker 2: That's but that's that's one of the great points of 1654 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,479 Speaker 2: the modern age, isn't it If it don't protein you're 1655 01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,600 Speaker 2: neutral when you aren't, and we all know you're not, 1656 01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,760 Speaker 2: so that's right. But who you are, say what you 1657 01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:17,439 Speaker 2: want and we can we all know where we're at. 1658 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:21,720 Speaker 13: Yeah, that's that's that's absolutely right. But Tony Hall, the 1659 01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:25,280 Speaker 13: outgoing Director General of the BBC, always said, when you 1660 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:29,080 Speaker 13: come into the BBC you leave your opinions on the cokepeg. 1661 01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,400 Speaker 13: No you don't. There isn't a cloaqu big enough of 1662 01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:37,760 Speaker 13: the opinions of BBC presenters and producers and editors. It 1663 01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:43,719 Speaker 13: is a center left, soft left organization which follows a liberal, 1664 01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:49,680 Speaker 13: a liberal regiment and until we until the BBC kind 1665 01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,760 Speaker 13: of accepts that the right will be after it. And 1666 01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,920 Speaker 13: I think Lenicher's departure it doesn't help the BBC. We 1667 01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,439 Speaker 13: know that he thought pretty much the same as most 1668 01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,479 Speaker 13: of the rest of the being is seeded. So it's 1669 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,360 Speaker 13: it's a shame for football because he is a good presenter, 1670 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:08,720 Speaker 13: no question. 1671 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,240 Speaker 2: All right, mate, Go well see Thursday, Rod Little out 1672 01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:14,240 Speaker 2: of Britain for us this morning eight forty five the. 1673 01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:18,000 Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on I have radio 1674 01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:19,559 Speaker 1: powered by News Talks at. 1675 01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:22,120 Speaker 2: B thirteen away from line. So just back to the 1676 01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:25,200 Speaker 2: revelation yesterday from the new stadium in Christchurch, which is 1677 01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,880 Speaker 2: going to be amazing forty seven hundred and thirty seven 1678 01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:32,800 Speaker 2: dollars per person per year for a suite and it's oversubscribed. 1679 01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,519 Speaker 2: You're dealing with for thirteen events, which is what they're 1680 01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,000 Speaker 2: giving you. There's no All Blacks, there's no concerts, there's 1681 01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:43,240 Speaker 2: no International rugby League, no foot just basically super rugby 1682 01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:46,160 Speaker 2: and maybe a bit of the NPC. So thirteen event 1683 01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,719 Speaker 2: be you're paying three hundred and sixty four dollars every 1684 01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,479 Speaker 2: time you go. That's a lot of money, isn't it. 1685 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:54,240 Speaker 2: Three hundred and sixty four dollars for some regular rugby 1686 01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,040 Speaker 2: or I don't know, a bit of club football. A 1687 01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,479 Speaker 2: premium reserve seat, so it's not even a suite. A 1688 01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,559 Speaker 2: seat equates to twenty four hundred and fifty seven dollars 1689 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,479 Speaker 2: for the season, which is one hundred and eighty nine 1690 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:10,639 Speaker 2: dollars every time you go. The lounge, the Otatahi Lounge 1691 01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:14,679 Speaker 2: starts from forty three oh seven. The Field Club, which 1692 01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,080 Speaker 2: is a private section so it's not even a sweet, 1693 01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:21,880 Speaker 2: it's a section, is thirty nine hundred dollars. The platform 1694 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,479 Speaker 2: is thirty six hundred and eleven dollars. The biggest sweet 1695 01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:30,559 Speaker 2: sixty people two hundred and eighty four thousand dollars. I 1696 01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,400 Speaker 2: mean that is serious coin and so good on them. 1697 01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:35,479 Speaker 2: For being able to do it. I mean the demand 1698 01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,000 Speaker 2: is there, the money is there. It's just a fantastic story. 1699 01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,280 Speaker 2: And they go through in the article of the distances 1700 01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,120 Speaker 2: you have to walk from the various places in the country. 1701 01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,599 Speaker 2: Forsyth Bar, great indoor facility, but you're half an hour 1702 01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:50,280 Speaker 2: away from town. Sky Stadium which isn't called sky Stadium anymore, 1703 01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:53,400 Speaker 2: whatever it's called in Wellington. Are no roof thirty four 1704 01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,280 Speaker 2: minutes from Courtney Place, Eden Park, don't even get you started, 1705 01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:00,200 Speaker 2: ghost smart Media six days from town because in the 1706 01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:04,240 Speaker 2: wrong part of Auckland a spark. Yes it's close to town, 1707 01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,040 Speaker 2: but doesn't have a football pitch, so you can't do 1708 01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:10,519 Speaker 2: half your stuff. Whereas the the one New Zealand Stadium 1709 01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,519 Speaker 2: is team and has walked from Oxford Terrace. So they've 1710 01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,920 Speaker 2: put it right. Looks good, they've got demand, build it, 1711 01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:18,280 Speaker 2: they will come. Can't argue with it. Speaking of building, 1712 01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:21,800 Speaker 2: it had Chris Bishop on the rail He was joined 1713 01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,360 Speaker 2: this morning at the railway station by Winston Peters. Things 1714 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:25,160 Speaker 2: didn't go well. 1715 01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,960 Speaker 4: Tod Bollocks, load of polls wood look like well it's 1716 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:28,599 Speaker 4: gone up in the mirror. 1717 01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:33,320 Speaker 17: You look like like bollocks, mate, Sunshoine You. 1718 01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:40,320 Speaker 13: Donald Trump, you're at your nap off. Look at you. 1719 01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:41,480 Speaker 20: You go to headlines. 1720 01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:45,120 Speaker 18: Want to see you? 1721 01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:45,880 Speaker 15: You look on the light. 1722 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:51,800 Speaker 13: You look Trump Young, Get out of here, last and 1723 01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:54,479 Speaker 13: don't bluddy dead last leave. You're m. 1724 01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,520 Speaker 23: De fell Maron now are you? 1725 01:24:58,920 --> 01:24:59,120 Speaker 17: Yeah? 1726 01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:00,000 Speaker 12: You're feeling Marin Now? 1727 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:01,400 Speaker 15: Well that'll we do if you want? 1728 01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:05,200 Speaker 2: It went well? So went, I mean, God bless him. 1729 01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:06,960 Speaker 2: He took it. He was a member of the public. 1730 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,360 Speaker 18: It said, somebody who's pasionate about trains. 1731 01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks the member of the public looked what 1732 01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:14,800 Speaker 2: he looked like Wellingtonian, didn't. 1733 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,839 Speaker 18: He He looked like bollocks, according to look like Bollocks. 1734 01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,000 Speaker 18: Winston n Haff. 1735 01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:20,920 Speaker 2: Nine minutes away from nine, the. 1736 01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:24,879 Speaker 1: Mate Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover, the La News. 1737 01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,439 Speaker 2: Togs dead be now the all new Defender Octa o 1738 01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,280 Speaker 2: c TA Octor. There's a story behind that. I don't 1739 01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:31,920 Speaker 2: have time to tell it to you now, but it's 1740 01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,160 Speaker 2: it's it's it's there's a reason for being called the 1741 01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,439 Speaker 2: Octa anyway. It's the master of extreme off road on 1742 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:41,120 Speaker 2: road performance, unrivaled responsiveness, unmatch capability, the Defender Octor. It's 1743 01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:44,919 Speaker 2: got raised height, got wider stants, thirty three inch tires, 1744 01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:49,120 Speaker 2: so it's tough from every angle. Looks incredible. It's got 1745 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,280 Speaker 2: a hardware and graphite front under shield that protects it 1746 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,280 Speaker 2: from the rugged terrain that you're gonna drive over. The 1747 01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,280 Speaker 2: engine'es incredible supercharge V eight it's got six hundred and 1748 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,759 Speaker 2: twenty six horse power to hang on typepower. It's like, whoo, 1749 01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,840 Speaker 2: here we go power. They took everything basically about the 1750 01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:07,479 Speaker 2: Defender tended up to eleven. So the new Defender Octor 1751 01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:09,840 Speaker 2: it's got a mote. It's got a button on the 1752 01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:13,480 Speaker 2: steering wheel. That's the Octa mode that unlocks unique calibrations 1753 01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,400 Speaker 2: of traction Control ABSV eight Performance designed to showcase the 1754 01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:20,040 Speaker 2: vehicle's classifying capability. The thing you really should if you're 1755 01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:21,920 Speaker 2: a car nut like me, look up the video and 1756 01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:25,320 Speaker 2: there's plenty of them about on their sixty dynamic suspension. 1757 01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:28,160 Speaker 2: What that does and how it does it is as 1758 01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,840 Speaker 2: far as I can work out, little short of sheer genius. 1759 01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,400 Speaker 2: So response to driving stars with hydraulic interlinked dampers and 1760 01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:38,120 Speaker 2: higher adjustable airsprings, it's incredible. So you can literally and 1761 01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,200 Speaker 2: I mean literally master any terrain and the Defender Octa, 1762 01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,920 Speaker 2: the most powerful defender ever made your Landrovererdela is going 1763 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,080 Speaker 2: to have a demonstrator and you can order up one 1764 01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:51,439 Speaker 2: and your life will never be the same again. Husking 1765 01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:54,000 Speaker 2: five minutes away from nin England. We don't have to. 1766 01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:56,479 Speaker 2: We don't have time to Dilley Deli around here. We 1767 01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,479 Speaker 2: need to move on as quickly as possible to. 1768 01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:03,519 Speaker 1: This trending now with the Chemist Warehouse, Mayhem Megasale on 1769 01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:04,120 Speaker 1: now now. 1770 01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:08,240 Speaker 2: Netflix have released their top ten of all time. And 1771 01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,040 Speaker 2: this is a bit unusual because they're a bit weird 1772 01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:13,000 Speaker 2: around their numbers. In fact, they're dropping the numbers as 1773 01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,280 Speaker 2: far as I know. On their last earnings call, they 1774 01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,559 Speaker 2: have just interested in the money and they said, we're 1775 01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 2: making more money. Doesn't really matter who's watching anyway. So 1776 01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:24,439 Speaker 2: this is a list globally for the first ninety one 1777 01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:28,479 Speaker 2: days of release. It's calculated by dividing total hours watched 1778 01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:32,759 Speaker 2: by the show's run time. At number ten of all time, 1779 01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,080 Speaker 2: season four of Money Heist one hundred and six million, 1780 01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,639 Speaker 2: I watched Money Heist. I don't think I watched season 1781 01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:44,439 Speaker 2: four though. Number nine Season three of Bridgeton one hundred 1782 01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,280 Speaker 2: and six million. That was the thing until it wasn't 1783 01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,519 Speaker 2: a thing, wasn't it? Number eight The Queen's Gambit. I 1784 01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:50,479 Speaker 2: saw that one hundred and thirteen million. I thought that 1785 01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,920 Speaker 2: was quite cool. Season one of Bridgeton the original as 1786 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:57,160 Speaker 2: number seven, one hundred and thirteen million. Dharma the Jeffrey 1787 01:27:57,240 --> 01:28:00,720 Speaker 2: Dharma Story one hundred and sixteen million. I have adolescents 1788 01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:04,160 Speaker 2: one thirty four million. That's only after sixty days. It's 1789 01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:07,000 Speaker 2: a hot hit. Season four of Stranger Things number four 1790 01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:10,920 Speaker 2: at one hundred and forty one million. Number three. Season 1791 01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,439 Speaker 2: two of Squid Game one hundred and ninety two million. 1792 01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,160 Speaker 2: People Still in a lot of people, is it? When 1793 01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:18,479 Speaker 2: you think about it. In the world, there was eight 1794 01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,120 Speaker 2: billion people in the world, and like ten percent of 1795 01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,320 Speaker 2: eight billion is eight hundred million, so it's about two 1796 01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:27,320 Speaker 2: percent of the population. Ninety eight percent of people never 1797 01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,559 Speaker 2: saw this. I'm literally wasting my time. Ninety eight percent 1798 01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,640 Speaker 2: of people and never seen them. Number two is Wednesday. 1799 01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,320 Speaker 2: Not only did I've never even heard of it? Two 1800 01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,599 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty two million. Wednesday is the sequel Thursday? 1801 01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:39,559 Speaker 2: Or is that adad Joe? 1802 01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,519 Speaker 18: No, you know Wednesday from the Adams Family. 1803 01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,200 Speaker 2: Oh her, she had her own show, Yes, Oh, for 1804 01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:48,400 Speaker 2: goodness sake and the number one of all time. It's 1805 01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,000 Speaker 2: sort of a down seeing the season everything of Squid 1806 01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,720 Speaker 2: Game was somewhere else. Season one of Squid Game was 1807 01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,719 Speaker 2: the Vegas three round and sixty five million was Wednesday 1808 01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:57,360 Speaker 2: in the squad Game. 1809 01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,400 Speaker 18: No, well, we don't know yet. Season three is not yet. 1810 01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,519 Speaker 18: Maybe she's in that, maybe they've done a colla. Did 1811 01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,720 Speaker 18: Wednesday die or if she already did and come back 1812 01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:06,240 Speaker 18: to life. 1813 01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:10,360 Speaker 2: Did Wednesday make it to Thursday? And that's where it ends? Folks? 1814 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,240 Speaker 2: Happy Days. 1815 01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:16,160 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 1816 01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,320 Speaker 1: news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 1817 01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:20,880 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio