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Speaker 1: Together due to see alas So police and Autonga Timtiki

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Speaker 1: we now find out have been secretly investigating Gloria Ail

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Speaker 1: for serious allegations of mistreatment of children. It's been reported

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Speaker 1: that members of Gloria Al have been silencing crying children

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Speaker 1: and babies by covering their mouths and noses. The investigation

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Speaker 1: started last year after the release of the Royal Commission

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Speaker 1: Virginia Courage is a Gloria of Alee lever High, Virginia.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Heither, You've.

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Speaker 3: Seen this happening, haven't you?

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Speaker 2: He's the haves What did you see? So as a

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Speaker 2: younger child, I definitely witnessed other children having this technique,

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Speaker 2: their hands and their mouths being covered to stop crying,

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Speaker 2: to stop the fussing. Yeah, it wasn't very nice watching

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Speaker 2: it as a kid.

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Speaker 3: No, we're talking about little babies here.

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Speaker 2: Ah he's This technique was used on babies deinately from

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Speaker 2: six months and older.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, designed to break their will, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Well? It was one of the discipline child wearing techniques

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Speaker 2: that was used in gory Vale. But it was definitely

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Speaker 2: around making sure that your child would stop crying when

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Speaker 2: they were asked, because they knew that the punishment would

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Speaker 2: get extreme pretty fast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean that's quite a dangerous thing to do.

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Speaker 3: Have any kids actually died as a result of this?

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Speaker 2: No, not that I'm aware of lost consciousness. I was

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Speaker 2: involved in a situation and a little boy was brought

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Speaker 2: to me and he was unconscious from going through this

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Speaker 2: discipline technique. Yeah, and he was. He wasn't breathing, and

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Speaker 2: his father sort of just like throw and met me.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if you said anything. I just

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Speaker 2: went straight into zis kid breathing mode and you did.

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Speaker 2: It was pretty pretty extreme.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Do you think, I mean, what you were talking about

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Speaker 3: is stuff that you were involved in, you know, around

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Speaker 3: about twenty years ago. Is it still happening?

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Speaker 2: Well? Interestingly, interestingly enough, five glorivil undertook some parenting courses

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Speaker 2: and that was to actually help around child's behavior and

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Speaker 2: alternative methods of wearing our kids and learning some different

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Speaker 2: practices because most of Glorivald's child wearing practices were quite extreme.

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Speaker 2: But when we left my husband and nine our teen

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Speaker 2: children in twenty twenty nineteen, this was even mentioned about

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Speaker 2: the practice of covering their nose and mouth. It was

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Speaker 2: never brought up. Is something we were going to stop doing.

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Speaker 3: Oh I see, okay, so it was still happening in

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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. Do you think I.

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Speaker 2: Would say so okay? Now there was no public mention

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Speaker 2: of it not being okay, Why would people stop it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Virginia, listen, thank you very much. We'll have to

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Speaker 3: leave it there. I do appreciate your time, Virginia, courage,

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