1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: So among other laws that passed this week, that much 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: anksted about regulatory standards bill got through two one hundred 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: and fifty six thousand public submissions. Ninety eight percent of 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: them were opposing it. In simple terms, it allows better 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: law making by reducing red tape and assessing legislation against 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: its principles of responsible regulation. David Seymour as of course, 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: man who drove it through in the Minister River Regulation. 8 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: It's good morning, is with us? Is this a personal 9 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: winp Mike, good morning morning. Is this a personal win? 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: It's actually a whole lot of people. This has been 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: going on since the early two thousands, when the first 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: version of this was drafted. So I'm very proud to 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: have got it over the line. But it's a little 14 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: bit like end of life choice that actually started years 15 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 2: before I got anywhere near Parliament. I was just sort 16 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: of the winger that picked it up at the end 17 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: and put it over the line. 18 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: The ninety eight point seven percent of public submissions have 19 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: public submissions to a degree broader question been hijacked. There's 20 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: just the same old same olds turning up and moaning, yeah. 21 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: We'll put it this way. I was told the other 22 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: day that there's been more submissions to select committees in 23 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: the last two years than in the entire history of 24 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: Parliament before that, and this is being driven by If 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 2: you're Greenpeace, you set up a website, it has a 26 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: series of false statements, you put in a tick box exercise, 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: and then it formulates a submission for you. But of 28 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: course as part of the process, green Peace ends up 29 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: with your email address, which is their real objective. And 30 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: then of course people say there's all their submissions against it. Well, 31 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: the truth is that the people making the submission sadly, 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: and I mean them no disrespect, but they start off 33 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: uninformed about the Regulatory Standards Bill and by the time 34 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: they go through that process or tweetoo to TDTU or whatever, 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: they're actually misinformed. 36 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: The Labor Party will flip it. Are you disappointed to 37 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: the extent that you haven't been able to reach out 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: to make this bigger than in other words, it's here today, 39 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: gone tomorrow. 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: Well, and that that's of course if the Labor Party. 41 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get all that, but you know you haven't 42 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: got broad base aboard on it. 43 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: Yes, and no, I mean we have tried, but if 44 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: you look at it, you know David Parker one of 45 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: the more thoughtful guys I think would have been open 46 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: to it. Duncan wear ballots and rants and rays, but 47 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: he's not actually standing for christ Duke Central again, so frankly, 48 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: he's shooting blanks. And then Elena Williams stood up in 49 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 2: the debate last night, sung a song for the first 50 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: two minutes, then cried, then talk about our ancestors, and 51 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 2: then made some incoherent points about the legislation that bore 52 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: no resemblance to it. So, you know, I am sad 53 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: that we don't have cross party support, but in those circumstances, 54 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: it is challenging to actually get a real conversation with 55 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: these people. That worries me more than anything. Our goal 56 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: is to win next year, betted and make it the 57 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: norm that if a politician wants to make a law 58 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: and it's going to put costs on people's time and 59 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: money and it's gonna, you know, devalue your property like 60 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: the earthquake laws did or whatever, then you've at least 61 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: got to be open and have the decent set and 62 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: tell people that's what the cost will be. That, just 63 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: like the Fiscal Responsibility Act and the Reserve Bank Act, 64 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 2: if it changes our culture over time will be a wealthier, 65 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: more respectful, more civilized country. 66 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: You have a good weekend, Appreciate it, Dobson, you as 67 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: the Minister of Regulation Associate Minister of Education. 68 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: For more from the my Casking Breakfast listen live to 69 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: news talks. 70 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast 71 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.