1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Dan Meagens and US correspondence with US Elodn. Hi, Heather, Okay, 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: what's the latest from Hurricane Melissa. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Well, it looks like we're gonna have to update that 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: death toll from a three to seven right now, they're saying, 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: and the winds are about one hundred and thirty miles 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: an hour as it's heading towards Cuban. Like you mentioned, 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: it was a Category five storm. It had been downgraded 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: to a three. It is now back up to a four. 9 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: It looks like it could make landfall in the next 10 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: few hours, and the center is about one hundred and 11 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: ten miles southwest of Guantanamo. I gotta tell you this 12 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: is we haven't seen a storm like this since I 13 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: think the eighteen hundreds that have hit Jamaica right now, 14 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: and I mean the devastation. I mean, we're going to 15 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: know more in the morning, but I'll tell you it's 16 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: just awful. From the pictures that we're seeing. 17 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: What are you saying? 18 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: I mean powers out, buildings destroyed, a flooding, landslides, trees 19 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: are down. TV reporters that are trying to do stand 20 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: ups like they always do in the center of these storms. 21 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: Are you just you can't see them because the rain 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: has just been so strong out there. I think they've 23 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: had something like maybe twenty inches of rain already in 24 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: the short period of time. 25 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: Wow, that sounds incredible. Now, how has the Bill Gates 26 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: comments gone down in your part of the world. 27 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: Well, this is kind of interesting because you know, he's 28 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: been this big, sort of vocal proponent for reducing carbon emissions, 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: and he's saying, you know what, maybe we have to 30 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: turn our attention away from the battle against climate change instead. 31 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: He's saying that we need to invest in other things 32 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: like preventing disease and hunger. And you know, the Gates 33 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: Foundation has been doing that on and offer for a 34 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: number of years right now, but he said we should 35 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: deal with them in proportion to the suffering they cause. 36 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: And I think this caught a lot of people by 37 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: surprise because this has been something that Gates has been 38 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: pushing along with his ex wife for decades now. Yeah. 39 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: What's fascinating about it, though, is that this is, as 40 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: you say, somebody who has been pushing for a while 41 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: on climate change who is now saying enough is enough. 42 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: So what do you think happens? 43 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that they're still going to 44 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: invest in this. I mean, this is going to be 45 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: a big contrast obviously from where he's been focusing his 46 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: efforts and his money to clean energy has been big. 47 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: I think he's going to maybe change the tone of 48 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: the Gates Foundation a little bit right now. I don't 49 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: think he'll back away completely from climate investment, but I 50 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: think he's going to probably maybe diversify would be the 51 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: best way to describe a lot of his resources. And 52 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: it sounds like more of his time and money too. 53 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: It sounds like he has absolutely timed this deliberately ahead 54 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: of COP thirty. 55 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 2: Right you would think. So, Yeah, that's coming up in 56 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: about a week or so right now, and I think 57 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: that's going to be a topic of conversation that a 58 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 2: lot of countries are going to point at, especially those 59 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: who have been more for coal and oil as opposed 60 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: to wind and other natural forms of energy. 61 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: What is the hold up with the book that's supposed 62 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: to be coming from Joe Bard Biden's old press sick. 63 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: Ah, Yes, Queen Jean Pierre, And you know what, I 64 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 2: wish I could explain this to you better, because you're 65 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: going to have to read the interview to do it 66 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: justice right now is come out with the the in 67 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: the Times. It went viral and nobody can actually figure 68 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: out what it is that she was actually seeing. It 69 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: was kind of a word salad. She was going back 70 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 2: and forth talking about the Biden White House and criticizing 71 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 2: the party's lack of strategy and leadership, and she said 72 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: it was definitely a party that she believed and she's 73 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: still aligned with, but she doesn't really doesn't like the 74 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: direction that it's it's currently in right now, which is 75 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: why she decided she was going to go independent. But 76 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: I'll tell you, I mean trying to paraphrase this thing. 77 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: It's it's really like a whiplash of answers and sentences 78 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: that just weren't really completed right now. 79 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: Okay, yep, I know the type. Dan. It's good to 80 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: talk to you. Thanks very much. Dan Mitchinson, now US correspondent. 81 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessye, Allen Drive, listen live to 82 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 83 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.