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Speaker 1: Jason Pine Sports Talk Coasters with me. Hello Piney, Hello Heather. Okay,

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Speaker 1: rate the All Blacks year for me, and let's do

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Speaker 1: it out of five?

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Speaker 2: Okay, what we should do with if I go three, two,

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Speaker 2: one and we both give our mark out of five?

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Speaker 1: Okay, out of five?

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Speaker 2: What about out of ten? What about out of ten?

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Speaker 2: Our mark out of ten? Go? Okay, So three to

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Speaker 2: one sucks pretty close. You're a tough marker. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: giving them just I'm giving them the extra mark because

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Speaker 2: ten out of thirteen is a record that a lot

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Speaker 2: of Tier one nations would love. But I think there

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Speaker 2: are still a lot of unanswered questions, as your five

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Speaker 2: out of ten suggests. You know, no Rugby Championship, no

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Speaker 2: Grand Slam. Yes, they kept the Bletter Slow Cup and

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Speaker 2: that was that was good. But we're talking about Australian

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Speaker 2: side who is still.

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Speaker 1: The problems that are plaguing them at the end of

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Speaker 1: this year that we're plaguing them at the start of

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Speaker 1: last year, massive deficits in terms of losses.

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Speaker 2: That those third quarter blues are crazy, hey, like not

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Speaker 2: being out of score score points or for stopped conceding

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Speaker 2: them the twenty minutes after halftime. Look a year from now,

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Speaker 2: after this massive tour of South Africa with what three

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Speaker 2: tests over there plus the one of the neutral location,

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Speaker 2: If we're ten from thirteen back in the next year,

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Speaker 2: that's probably not too bad, considering four of them are

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Speaker 2: against a terrific South African side. But will we get there?

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Speaker 2: That's the thing?

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Speaker 1: Is it? The actual is it? Is it the number

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Speaker 1: of I think looking at the number of tests that

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Speaker 1: you win is kind of not the right metric. I

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Speaker 1: think it's the quality of the game that's being played, right,

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Speaker 1: You see the problems there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great point because we beat France and three tests

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Speaker 2: at the start of July or into July, and none

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Speaker 2: of the three were really great performances. But there are

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Speaker 2: three wins there. Whereas you look at the win over

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Speaker 2: South Africa and Auckland, that was a terrific performance that night,

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Speaker 2: but they have been a bit few and far between.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think we leave twenty twenty five in

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Speaker 2: an all black sense, with a sense of not really

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Speaker 2: being sure if the improvement has been enough for us

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Speaker 2: to feel confident about the World Cup in two years time.

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Speaker 1: So Piney on Friday surprised to read in Gregor and

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Speaker 1: you and I talked about Gregor Paul's piece, but what

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Speaker 1: I didn't talk to you about was the fact that

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Speaker 1: Scott Raiser Robinson is actually not the head coach in

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Speaker 1: the way that we would consider a traditional head coach.

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Speaker 1: He's a culture coach. He's a manager type figure, right,

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Speaker 1: And is it Scott Hanson who's the actual head coach.

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Speaker 1: That's surprising to me.

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Speaker 2: It is surprising to me too, and I think that

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Speaker 2: might be one change they have to make. They have

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Speaker 2: to get razorback on the grass as a hands on coach,

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Speaker 2: because I think that's how he was initially anyway, and

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Speaker 2: maybe later in this time at the Crusaders he moved

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Speaker 2: into more of this sort of overseeing role. But he

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Speaker 2: was initially a very good on the grass rugby coach.

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Speaker 2: And with Jason Holland leaving now, I don't think they'll

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Speaker 2: replace him. I think they'll just, you know, give all

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Speaker 2: the responsibilities out quite a bit to Scott Robinson. After all,

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Speaker 2: he's the head coach. He's the one who lives and

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Speaker 2: dies by the results of the team. If I'm him,

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Speaker 2: I want to have my hands dirty within that team.

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Speaker 2: So is it.

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Speaker 1: Possible that actually that may go some way to explaining

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Speaker 1: why we looked at the Crusaders and they were just

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Speaker 1: absolutely brilliant, and then Scott Raiser Robertson moves to the

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Speaker 1: All Blacks and they're not brilliant because he's not the coach.

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Speaker 1: Because when we're looking at the team, this is not

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Speaker 1: a Scott, this is not a razor team, this is

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Speaker 1: a handsome team.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think also the fact that coaching at super

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Speaker 2: rugby level allows you to be a man manager because

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Speaker 2: you have your team with you the whole time, right,

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Speaker 2: You've got five or six months together with them. That

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Speaker 2: is enough time. It's like, you know, that's being in

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Speaker 2: a workplace with them All Blacks. It's like they come

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Speaker 2: in and out. He doesn't have a long time with them.

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Speaker 2: So building that culture being a great man manager is

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Speaker 2: a lot more difficult at All Blacks level than Crusader's level.

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Speaker 1: Now, what happened to England? I mean two days not

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Speaker 1: the hell.

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Speaker 2: Imagine if you had tickets for day three, if you're

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Speaker 2: all set for your day at the cricket and there's

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Speaker 2: no cricket. This is astonishing, reader. I think guys have

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Speaker 2: just forgotten how to bat. You know, they love the

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Speaker 2: t twenty. They smack it around everywhere, and they get

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Speaker 2: to the white white clothing on the red ball, they

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Speaker 2: forget how to play. So yeah, like crazy, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: good entertainment, I guess, But yeah no, you wouldn't want

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Speaker 2: tickets to Day three.

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Speaker 1: Brilliant. Hey, thank you, Pioneers, always appreciated. Jason Pines Sports

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Speaker 1: Store Coast.

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