1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: We're going to catch up with Barry Soper a little 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: bit later on on news talks, he'd be he is 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: still yes, chick your watch, he is still at lunch 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: with Boris Johnson. In the meantime news talks, he'd be 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: hard working political lead at Jason Walter as well as 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: from Parliament. Hey, Jason, I'm not at a long lunch. No, no, no, 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: neither of us. There's two of us. Mate. Hey, we've 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: just received an update on the ongoing probe and to 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: Tipati Mardy in the Manuda Marii election issues, what's happened indeed. 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: So it's an interesting story, this one, and I know 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: a lot of listeners of OZ have been hanging out 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: to get any developments on this one. So I'll take 13 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 2: you through it. I'll catch you up in case you've 14 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: forgotten about where we've got to in terms of this story. 15 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: So you'll remember, about six months ago, allegation surface that 16 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: census and COVID nineteen data was being used at the 17 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: Manurewa Marai in Auckland in relation to the election campaign 18 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: will It was alleged that the data was used in 19 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 2: a way to attract more voters to TI party. Marty 20 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: remember the Auckland Marti seat of Tamaki Makodo was won 21 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: by TI Party Mari's Takuta tash Camp by just forty 22 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: two vote, so the slimmest of margins. And yesterday Sir 23 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: Brian Wroach, the Public Service Commissioner, said the reports into 24 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: this will be unveiled shortly, didn't give a time frame, 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: just said shortly, citing the complexity of it all. Then 26 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: Nicola Willis said she the Public Service Minister, said of 27 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: the delay. 28 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 3: These issues go to public trust and confidence. They need 29 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 3: to have utmost confidence in their findings and conclusions and 30 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: they need to live through the scrutiny of a significant 31 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: amount of public challenge. 32 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 2: So living through the scrutiny of a significant significant amount 33 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 2: of public challenge, it's not something that you would say 34 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: if there was a complete absolval of the parties in question. 35 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 2: Now we have an update from the Electoral Commission itself, 36 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: who were before a Select Committee this afternoon. National's Cameron 37 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: Brewer asked of the Elections boss call Lecain why the 38 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: Commission decided to have a voting booth at the Marai. 39 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: Here's what he said. 40 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: When we became aware of the candidate's relationship for that, 41 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 4: we quite hard about it. We acknowledged there was a risk. 42 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 4: We came up with goation plan and I think I 43 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 4: have to say we got that wrong. I don't think 44 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 4: the perception of a conflict in there could have been 45 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 4: managed in the way that we set out to do it. 46 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: So there you heard a plane's day. They got it wrong. 47 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: This is not painting a good picture for this investigation. 48 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 1: M Yeah, that's really interesting. You honestly don't usually hear 49 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: public sevens speaking. Matt frankly is somewhat refreshing. Aaviral is 50 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: in the spotlight for wearing her own microphone during New Week. 51 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: I thought this was a bit strange. And did you 52 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: did play a clip from her before now Aichaviril. I'm 53 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: not saying that she isn't doing well in terms of 54 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: her job in opposition. In fact, she's probably one of 55 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: the best performing composition MPs. I would say, but what 56 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: we have is this interesting issue where it's becoming quite performative. 57 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: And I think Chavera Isichaviral is a great example because 58 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: listen to this is another example of her. In the 59 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: Health Select Committee this morning, why. 60 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 5: Was the report for Health New Zealand O only tabled 61 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 5: yesterday when that it can these crucial issues that have 62 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 5: been used to justify healthcats and we're expected to be 63 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 5: across a two hundred something plus report in order to 64 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 5: hold you account. This is an unprecedented level of secrecy 65 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 5: about important public spending. 66 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: Now that's not really a question, is that it's more 67 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: of a statement, and I know they love those around 68 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: Parliament and she listened. She might even have a point 69 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: with what she was saying, but I think the message 70 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: was somewhat undercut by the fact that she was wearing 71 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: a little lapel microphone as she was doing it, and 72 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: I assume this is so the Labor Party could clip 73 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: up the comments and make social media videos about them. 74 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: Hence why the delivery of the quote unquote question was 75 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: the way that it was. And now she's not alone 76 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: in this. I will know that David Seymour, when he 77 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: speaks to media before going into the house every day, 78 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: he wears one as well, and we've noticed that a 79 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: lot of his answers appear to be more catered to 80 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: providing sound bites for. 81 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: His access of social media. 82 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: The reporters and I just unfortunately think this is just 83 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: the one. 84 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: Well this is going yeah, this is it is happening 85 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: right across the house at the moment. Hey, thanks, Jason, 86 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 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