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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Taine podcast

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Speaker 2: More in a good morning Welcome to News Talks eDV.

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Speaker 2: Jack tame with you this Saturday morning through the midday.

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Speaker 2: AH cannot wait for our feature interview this morning. He

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Speaker 2: is a bona fide legend of Littleton, a legend of Littleton,

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Speaker 2: a friend of the show. Live in studio today, Marlon

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Speaker 2: Williams is with us. He with the honey voice as

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Speaker 2: he celebrates the lease of his latest album, and he

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Speaker 2: is doing things a bit differently his last couple of albums.

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Speaker 2: He's actually kind of shaken things up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But this album has some big changes, so I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you about those before ten o'clock. We're going to make

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Speaker 2: sure we save a bit of time to play you

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Speaker 2: a bit of Marlon Williams, and he will be with

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Speaker 2: us in studio after ten. Before ten o'clock, she promised

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Speaker 2: today she will deliver our cookers here with all of

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Speaker 2: her top tips on absolutely nailing a quince paste. It's

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Speaker 2: one of those, you know, kind of weird things that

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Speaker 2: many of us have thought about trying once upon a

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Speaker 2: time but haven't really done before. You might have quinces

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Speaker 2: around at your place, the neighbors might have some. However,

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Speaker 2: you're going to get them. She will turn it into

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Speaker 2: something delicious. So that recipe for you before ten o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it is eight minutes past nine.

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Speaker 3: Jack Team.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's be honest, Donald Trump has been right before.

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Speaker 2: There are occasions where he's come out with something seemingly crazy,

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Speaker 2: something totally bananas, earning him all the iron and ridicule

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Speaker 2: of the expert class and the media, only to may

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Speaker 2: B B be proven right over time. The one that

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Speaker 2: springs to mind is the travel band with China shortly

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Speaker 2: after COVID nineteen took off. One minute he was being

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Speaker 2: rinsed for it. The next well, everyone had a travel

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Speaker 2: band with China. That being said, it is so hard

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Speaker 2: to see how his extraordinary move this week is going

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Speaker 2: to work out as he says it will. Overnight, China

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Speaker 2: has reacted to Trump's tariff plan with retaliate tree tariffs. Yes,

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Speaker 2: the trade war has kicked off. Sheer markets around the

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Speaker 2: world have continued to shed trillions of dollars in value.

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Speaker 2: That's trillions with a tr trillions in value, thousands of

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Speaker 2: billions of dollars. Today is not the day for checking

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Speaker 2: your key we saver balance. I can assure you of that.

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Speaker 2: But even as the US Federal Reserve says America should

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Speaker 2: expect slower economic growth and higher inflation, the White House

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Speaker 2: insists Donald Trump's plan is working. One of the curious

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Speaker 2: things about this term as president is how little Trump

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Speaker 2: has seemed to care about the stock market. Remember his

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Speaker 2: first term as president, Anything that hurt share prices elicited

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Speaker 2: an immediate backdown, and Trump constantly bragged about how he

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Speaker 2: had the strongest economy. Ever, it just feels like it's

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Speaker 2: going to be extremely difficult to make that argument when

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Speaker 2: everything or almost everything, costs more. Still, if we've learned

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Speaker 2: anything from the past, it shouldn't be that sometimes Trump

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Speaker 2: is right to buck conventional wisdom. If we've learned anything,

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Speaker 2: it's that in the absurd, polarized world we now live in,

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Speaker 2: personality and teams are much more important than facts. This

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Speaker 2: applies to many of Trump's opponents as well. People on

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Speaker 2: the absolute opposite end of the political spectrum, such as

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Speaker 2: the nature of polarization. We're always right, we're never and

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Speaker 2: Trump's keenest cheer leaders are so slavishly loyal many refuse

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Speaker 2: to even acknowledge the most obvious objective failings. So his

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Speaker 2: team accidentally messaged war plans to a journalist. Well, we'll

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Speaker 2: just insist they weren't classify it. So he's slapped tariffs

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Speaker 2: on uninhabited sub Antarctic islands. Of course he has. Those

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Speaker 2: penguins have been getting away with murder, you know, murder

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Speaker 2: for decades now. So he's kicked off a global trade

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Speaker 2: war that will leave a majority of US worst off. Fantastic,

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Speaker 2: all part of the genius. It's a full game to

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Speaker 2: try and predict Donald Trump's next move. But for the

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Speaker 2: little it's worth. My best guess, and it is just

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Speaker 2: that a guess, is that none of these tariffs are

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Speaker 2: set in stone. Countries are going to try and plicate him.

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Speaker 2: Companies in the US are going to try and negotiate

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Speaker 2: their own little carve outs. If you're a company that

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Speaker 2: need that to develop your industry, you're going to go

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Speaker 2: and knock on the door at Pennsylvania Avenue and ask

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump for a little bit of special treatment. And

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump is going to absolutely love picking favorites. That

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Speaker 2: being said, his approach will lurch all over the place,

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Speaker 2: defined only by spur of the moment, whims and incoherence.

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Speaker 2: Regardless of what happens, Trump will claim success, his supporters

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Speaker 2: will agree, and the global order looks that much more unstable.

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Speaker 2: Jack Team ninety two ninety two is the text number

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Speaker 2: are going to message me that way. Crazy time to

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Speaker 2: be alive, crazy, crazy, crazy time to be alive. I

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Speaker 2: was speaking to a friend yesterday, a contact who is

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Speaker 2: really involved in the Asian share markets and investing and

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Speaker 2: kind of has a really global perspective, all sorts of

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Speaker 2: extremely interesting, clever, powerful contacts and governments around the world.

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Speaker 2: I called him and asked him what he thought of

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Speaker 2: it all, and he said, you know what, I think

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Speaker 2: this is one of the most significant days of my life.

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Speaker 2: I said, come on, that's a bit overblown, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: He said, put it this way, I reckon, in decades

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Speaker 2: of the Berlin Wall and we will say that was

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Speaker 2: the start of the free trade era, and yesterday was

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Speaker 2: the end. He reckons we are headed into totally unprecedented territory.

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Speaker 2: So on that cherry note, flick us a message Kevin

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Speaker 2: Melmill kick us off for Saturday morning.

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Speaker 4: Next.

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Speaker 2: It's thirteen minutes past nine. I'm jacktaying this this news

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Speaker 2: Be Jack, says Mike. He's intentionally crashing the stocks so

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Speaker 2: he and his mates can buy and low then remove

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Speaker 2: the tariffs. Well that's cynical, Mike, But I suppose there

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Speaker 2: is some kind of some people will see logic in

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Speaker 2: that Jack Trump has taken all allies hostage. The US

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Speaker 2: can no longer be considered an ally. Well, I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's a formal ally of New Zealand, but I

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Speaker 2: do think you make a really good point. But even

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Speaker 2: if all of these tariffs were removed, right, we went

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Speaker 2: back to how things were six months ago. Tariff wise,

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Speaker 2: at the very least, there is nothing that can assure

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Speaker 2: other countries around the world that even if a completely

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Speaker 2: We probably can't rely on America to be nearly as

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Speaker 2: good advice for us of well, don't look at your

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Speaker 2: he'd be And Kevin Milner is with us this morning.

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Speaker 5: Calder, Kevin, Gellahad Jack, what do you reckon? Do you

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Speaker 5: think that Trump is now less popular in America than

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Speaker 5: he was? Supporters he's even greater.

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Speaker 2: Now, I think among his supporters, I think there is

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Speaker 2: I think when Trump says he could walk down Forthavenue

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Speaker 2: die hard supporters. There is literally nothing that would stop

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Speaker 2: him from being the kind of, you know, the popular

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Speaker 2: figure that he is. It is almost kind of cultish,

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Speaker 2: the slavish devotion to him. So even when there is

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Speaker 2: a very little coherence around some of the arguments, people just,

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Speaker 2: I think, absolutely love him. I also think that applies

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Speaker 2: to other politicians on the other side of things. But

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Speaker 2: I think with trumpets especially pronounced. That being said, I

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Speaker 2: it when stuff was a little less expensive. I do

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Speaker 2: like economic growth. I don't love inflation. And those people

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Speaker 2: might be that their support might be a little bit,

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Speaker 2: you know, a little bit less firm. But yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: going to be amazing to see. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: one thing to point out is that that there are

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Speaker 2: already countries that are lowering their tariffs to try and

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Speaker 2: he'll say, this is the thing, it's just a negotiating

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Speaker 2: tactic to get everyone to lower tariffs on the US.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, he put out that list

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Speaker 2: yesterday I said New Zealand had a twenty percent tariff

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Speaker 4: We just don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just totally factually, just totally incorrect. But

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Speaker 2: the facts no matter in this world, Kevin. Facts don't

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Speaker 2: matter him anyway. Young you have been you have been

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Speaker 2: thinking about the economy of this week, and in particular,

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Speaker 2: you've been thinking about real estate.

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Speaker 5: Well, I've always felt sorry for people bidding for houses

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Speaker 5: and deadline sales and sales by tender.

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Speaker 3: Having done all their due.

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Speaker 5: Diligence at considerable cost, they have to put in a

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Speaker 5: You find a house you like, you pay for a

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Speaker 5: Really tough on first home buyers. I've been on both

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Speaker 5: Deadline sales and sales by tender are designed for the seller.

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Speaker 5: Now fair enough, you could say, real estate agents work

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Speaker 5: for and are paid for by the seller. My son

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Speaker 5: tells me that in central London now, if you want

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Speaker 5: to get rental accommodation a flat, you have to pitch

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Speaker 5: for it. You find the flat that you like and

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Speaker 5: you're forward in writing what rent you've prepared to.

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Speaker 6: Pay for it.

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Speaker 5: The highest bid gets the flat. It's no longer a

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Speaker 5: matter of getting in first, which was bad enough. It's

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Speaker 5: a matter of how much money you've got. I hope

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Speaker 5: bidding for rentals hasn't hit New Zealand yet, have you?

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Speaker 6: Are you aware that it has or hasn't yet?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: I actually think we're in this curious moment, Kevin, where

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Speaker 2: rental demand is down as much lower than it was,

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Speaker 2: so I think for the first time, and however many

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Speaker 2: the past. So I think it's quite different to how

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Speaker 2: it is in the UK. But I'm sure that has yet.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you think it has back when you know, I

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Speaker 5: look back back when I bought my first house. It

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Speaker 5: was so much simpler and it seemed to work for everyone.

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Speaker 6: You looked at photos of houses.

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Speaker 5: In the paper or at a real estate office, and

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Speaker 5: under each photo was the price the owner wanted for them,

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Speaker 5: simple as that you'd be taking on the tour of

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Speaker 5: the house and if you wanted it, you'd not five

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've done a quick fact check in the ad break,

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Speaker 8: A lot more confident morning, Jack. Yeah, he did very

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Speaker 2: Jack regarding the trade war, Come on, be honest, is

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Speaker 2: we have two different movies, both of them are on

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Speaker 3: So what's he down deal.

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Speaker 8: I'm just a regular guy with a regular job, but

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Speaker 10: So this is a bit of an action comedy.

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Speaker 11: It stars Jack Quaid, son of Mee Meg Ryan and

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Speaker 11: this nerdy assistant bank manager. He's crush on one of

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Speaker 11: his bank employees, Sherry played by Amber mid Thunder. And

433
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Speaker 11: as you heard in the trailer, there the gimmick or

434
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Speaker 11: the main joking the spell is that Nathan has this

435
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Speaker 11: rare genetic disorder that means he can't feel pain. And

436
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Speaker 11: while he might think to yourself, wow, that is quite

437
00:23:22,853 --> 00:23:26,453
Speaker 11: a cool superpower, turns out it's actually really inconvenient and

438
00:23:26,573 --> 00:23:29,733
Speaker 11: very limiting Jack, because of course he has to live

439
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Speaker 11: this really controlled life because he doesn't know when he

440
00:23:33,453 --> 00:23:37,013
Speaker 11: is seriously injured himself. So for example, his parents wouldn't

441
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Speaker 11: let him eat solid food for fear of biting his

442
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Speaker 11: tongue off and not knowing he's got tennis balls on

443
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Speaker 11: all the corners of furniture because he can, you know, hurt,

444
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Speaker 11: but that he has to set an alarm to go

445
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Speaker 11: the loo because he doesn't feel when his bladder is

446
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Speaker 11: full sort of thing. So it's actually quite limiting, not

447
00:23:54,533 --> 00:23:58,213
Speaker 11: hugely convenient superpower to have. Anyway, There's this robbery at

448
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Speaker 11: the bank and Sherry has taken hostage, and Nathan has

449
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Speaker 11: fallen madly in love with Sherry and he decides to

450
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Speaker 11: actually put his life on the line to get her back. Finally,

451
00:24:07,133 --> 00:24:09,173
Speaker 11: he's decided he's just going to get out there and

452
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Speaker 11: go for it, and off he does. So the rest

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Speaker 11: of the film it's just a series of inventive ways

454
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Speaker 11: to injure Nathan, and it's very brutal. It's pretty violent.

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Speaker 11: This whole sort of premise gives the filmmakers lots of

456
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Speaker 11: room to come up with creative ways to injure and

457
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Speaker 11: hurt Nathan, and they really do go to town on it,

458
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Speaker 11: and there is some sense that I actually couldn't watch

459
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Speaker 11: as he being you know, fish's bullets out of his

460
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Speaker 11: body and does things anyway, it's really good fun.

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Speaker 6: It is light.

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Speaker 10: It's a little bit different.

463
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Speaker 11: As I mentioned, it is an action comedy, but it's

464
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Speaker 11: also a romantic comedy, and I like the fact they've

465
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Speaker 11: tried to kind of come up with the romantic comedy

466
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Speaker 11: that's got a bit of a different edge to it.

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Speaker 11: I didn't think it quite came together as well as

468
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Speaker 11: it could, and that might be because they were largely

469
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Speaker 11: relying on one gag throughout the whole film, and some

470
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Speaker 11: of them, you know, some they executed that better at

471
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Speaker 11: sometimes not so well at other times.

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Speaker 10: So that gets a little bit tiring. And I wasn't

473
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Speaker 10: one hundred percent.

474
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Speaker 11: Sure about that the romantic spark between the two leads.

475
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Speaker 11: But otherwise, if you would like some fun escapism to

476
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Speaker 11: forget about the world this week, Jack, then.

477
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Speaker 10: I can seriously recommend neither came very good.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Cool, So that's showing in cinemas at the moment.

479
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Speaker 2: Also showing at cinemas a Minecraft movie.

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Speaker 3: In the Overworld.

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Speaker 6: Wow, anything you can dream.

482
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Speaker 3: About, you can create some good book or this. Yeah,

483
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Speaker 3: most of it.

484
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Speaker 6: Light here was perfect until one deck went and we

485
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Speaker 6: came across me another.

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Speaker 2: Okay, got some big names in this Jason memoir, Jack Black,

487
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Speaker 2: Jermain Clements for a Minder movie.

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Speaker 11: Hey, has Tara spoken to you? Have you come across

489
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Speaker 11: the new Apple TV show called The Studio yet?

490
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Speaker 2: Ah? Yes, yes we have.

491
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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's the satire. It's the satire on Hollywood movie studios, right.

492
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Speaker 11: And in the early aps, the studio owner he says

493
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Speaker 11: to his new president, who really wants to make quality films.

494
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Speaker 11: He says, Okay, I want to make a movie as

495
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Speaker 11: big as Barbie, and he comes up with this idea

496
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Speaker 11: to make a film based on the Cool aid Man.

497
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Speaker 11: And so this new president is sort of devastated that

498
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Speaker 11: he wants to do this kind of populist kind of film.

499
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Speaker 11: The marketing executive is ecstatic and says, I can make

500
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Speaker 11: so much money out of this with him, And it

501
00:26:42,293 --> 00:26:45,093
Speaker 11: kind of looks at that dilemma that Hollywood faces, creatives

502
00:26:45,133 --> 00:26:48,013
Speaker 11: wanting to be creatives and studios and suits wanting to

503
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Speaker 11: make lots of money. And I did think to myself

504
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Speaker 11: that it's a little unfortunate in the week that this

505
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Speaker 11: sort of TV series has kind of hit and we're

506
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Speaker 11: all talking about it. We have a film about one

507
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Speaker 11: of the biggest, most popular video games around has been released,

508
00:27:03,293 --> 00:27:07,133
Speaker 11: shot entirely in New Zealand. Huntley Stands in Idaho. But

509
00:27:07,213 --> 00:27:09,653
Speaker 11: this is so totally New zeal And. Every key we

510
00:27:09,653 --> 00:27:12,093
Speaker 11: will go to ango. No, this is so key.

511
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Speaker 12: We You've even got the handy power station in the background.

512
00:27:14,333 --> 00:27:18,733
Speaker 12: It's fantastic, as you mentioned, absolutely fantastic parts. Jack Back

513
00:27:18,773 --> 00:27:21,693
Speaker 12: and just Mamore. They really ham it up in this film.

514
00:27:22,253 --> 00:27:23,893
Speaker 12: They even break into a song.

515
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Speaker 11: I think the performances are very much aimed at the

516
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Speaker 11: young audiences.

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Speaker 10: Look, I am fond of Minecraft. My children loved playing

518
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Speaker 10: it when they were younger. I'm not so familiar with

519
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Speaker 10: it anymore.

520
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Speaker 11: I like the way that it allowed them to be creative,

521
00:27:39,413 --> 00:27:42,853
Speaker 11: you know, like it's like Lego video game, but it's

522
00:27:42,893 --> 00:27:45,773
Speaker 11: not really my world. So I can't tell you now

523
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Speaker 11: whether this sort of is loyal to the Minecraft game

524
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Speaker 11: as it is today, But I don't really think it's

525
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Speaker 11: aimed at me. I do think this film is aimed

526
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Speaker 11: at the young audience, who are going to absolutely love

527
00:27:58,053 --> 00:28:01,013
Speaker 11: this over the holidays. It is a very simple story.

528
00:28:01,053 --> 00:28:03,453
Speaker 11: The premise is pretty straightforward. They go on a mission

529
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Speaker 11: in the overworld and try and escape back to the

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Speaker 11: real world.

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Speaker 10: It's got all the all.

532
00:28:11,773 --> 00:28:14,813
Speaker 11: The characters and all the objects and the treasures that

533
00:28:15,253 --> 00:28:17,253
Speaker 11: feature in the game pop up, and it was lovely

534
00:28:17,293 --> 00:28:19,093
Speaker 11: to hear the kids all around. You kind of get

535
00:28:19,133 --> 00:28:23,093
Speaker 11: excited when they saw things and can relate to things.

536
00:28:23,653 --> 00:28:30,213
Speaker 11: But really probably pretty simplistic actually, and yeah, I mean

537
00:28:30,293 --> 00:28:32,333
Speaker 11: especial effects I thought were really great.

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Speaker 10: A very highly stylized world. I thought they sort of

539
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Speaker 10: got the aesthetic.

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Speaker 11: They did the aesthetic really well, and the live action

541
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Speaker 11: slips into that brilliantly, and that can be really hard

542
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Speaker 11: to do to make you feel like the live action

543
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Speaker 11: is taking place in such a highly stylized world. Of

544
00:28:49,773 --> 00:28:51,773
Speaker 11: course sort of shot against the green screen, so they've

545
00:28:51,813 --> 00:28:53,933
Speaker 11: done a really good job there. But I think this

546
00:28:54,013 --> 00:28:56,253
Speaker 11: will be huge fun for the clubs these holidays.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which is not a bad thing at all,

548
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. That is a minecraft movie. Francesca's

549
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Speaker 2: first one, the comedy is Novacaine. And we'll have all

550
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Speaker 2: the details for those films the news talks. He'd be website.

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00:29:07,733 --> 00:29:09,933
Speaker 2: She mentioned Tara. That is, of course Tara Award, our

552
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Speaker 2: screen time expert, who is with us every Saturday morning

553
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Speaker 2: after ten o'clock with three shows. You always recommends three

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556
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Speaker 2: be with us this morning and she's gonna tell us

557
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Speaker 2: about this brand new show from British comedian Jimmy Carr,

558
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Speaker 2: who I just I love Jimmy Carr. Still kind of

559
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Speaker 2: a unique comedian, right just with those one liners, the

560
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Speaker 2: snappy one liners. Friend of the show Jimmy Carr, of course, Anyway,

561
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Speaker 2: he's got this brand new show where he gets heaps

562
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Speaker 2: of other UK comedians and they all have to just

563
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Speaker 2: compete in a really simple challenge. So basically they've got

564
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Speaker 2: to make other people laugh whilst themselves keeping a really

565
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Speaker 2: straight face, so they can't move, they can't they can't react,

566
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Speaker 2: They've got to make other people laugh. And yeah, anyway,

567
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Speaker 2: we're gonna tell you about the show after ten o'clock

568
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Speaker 2: this morning, Don't Forget as well feature interview this morning

569
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Speaker 2: right after the ten o'clock news, Key We Music Legend,

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Speaker 2: He with the Velvet Voice. Marlon Williams is going to

571
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Speaker 2: be with us. He's got a brand new album. I said,

572
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Speaker 2: he's doing things differently. He's doing things differently because the

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Speaker 2: whole of Tefuddy Te wick O Wika is in Maldi.

574
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Speaker 2: This is the first time he's done that in an album.

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Speaker 2: So he's with us in studio after teen. Right now

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Speaker 2: it is sixteen minutes to teen. We're in the kitchen.

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Speaker 2: Next on Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Taye keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 2: dB fourteen to ten non news talks edb. Nicki Wicksaur

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Speaker 2: cook is in the kitchen for us this morning, killed Niki.

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Speaker 13: Oh cura in my heart is a fluss up with

584
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Speaker 13: what we're talking about this morning.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, I thought, oh, you've got some bad I

586
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Speaker 2: think you're gonna see some saucy goss or something with

587
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Speaker 2: us there here. No, that's okay. I'm equally excited about

588
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Speaker 2: sweet things, so there's no judgment from me. Just for

589
00:31:00,133 --> 00:31:02,293
Speaker 2: a moment there, I thought, Oh, okay, NICKI, where we

590
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Speaker 2: go with this?

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Speaker 14: That's all right?

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00:31:04,533 --> 00:31:05,293
Speaker 10: Well, I'm in love.

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Speaker 2: It's true with quints, it's funny. Look, I feel like

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Speaker 2: people don't really know what to do with quinces. You

595
00:31:15,533 --> 00:31:17,733
Speaker 2: know about a quin's paste. But you know, is that fair?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: And I think that's completely fair. You know, if you

598
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Speaker 13: have a quince tree, I mean, they actually grow really well,

599
00:31:22,893 --> 00:31:25,253
Speaker 13: They've got a beautiful blossom on them, but you end

600
00:31:25,333 --> 00:31:29,053
Speaker 13: up with these fruit that are rock hard, and the

601
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Speaker 13: only way you can tell that they are ripe is

602
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Speaker 13: by the yellow hue to their furry skins. And they

603
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Speaker 13: seem like the most inhospitable fruit in the world because

604
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Speaker 13: they you know, they're hard to chop up.

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Speaker 2: What do you do with them?

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Speaker 13: One quince goes a long way.

607
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Speaker 3: But I'm here to tell.

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Speaker 13: You that there are so many things you can do,

609
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Speaker 13: and that the easiest thing to do with them is

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Speaker 13: first of all, to peel them with a potato peela

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Speaker 13: or vegetable peela. Chop them in half, super hard. You

612
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Speaker 13: need a big knife and a strong arm. Chop them

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Speaker 13: into quarters. Check them in a dish or a pot

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Speaker 13: or a roast ied them in the oven. I roast them,

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Speaker 13: you know, Fill that dish with a little you know,

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Speaker 13: so half full with water. Don't worry about all this

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Speaker 13: business about how they brown off and this, that and

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Speaker 13: the other, and put them in a scidulated I lemon

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Speaker 13: juice water. To me, that's all a bit of a pilava.

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Speaker 13: You're going to roast the heck out.

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Speaker 4: Of them anyway, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 13: And so and they go this kind of creamy caramel color,

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Speaker 13: and you think, oh, they don't look like Nicky's ones

624
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Speaker 13: in the book. But keep on cooking them and they

625
00:32:33,853 --> 00:32:38,453
Speaker 13: become this beautiful, rusty red color. And that is when

626
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Speaker 13: you know that they are truly cooked. I make them,

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Speaker 13: I do them like that.

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Speaker 10: That's what I do.

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Speaker 13: I roast them in the oven for maybe one or

630
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Speaker 13: two hours at one eighty and then I call them.

631
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Speaker 13: Only then do I attempt to take the core out,

632
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Speaker 13: because the core is really embedded in the flesh and

633
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Speaker 13: it's it's really hard to do when they're you know,

634
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Speaker 13: when they're raw. So wait till that, wait till they cooked,

635
00:32:57,213 --> 00:32:58,893
Speaker 13: and then spoon that core out, and then you've got

636
00:32:58,893 --> 00:33:01,093
Speaker 13: this beautiful fruit to either use with your musically in

637
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Speaker 13: the morning, or I'm going to say to you make

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00:33:03,973 --> 00:33:07,653
Speaker 13: quince paste otherwise known as a membry, which is a

639
00:33:07,773 --> 00:33:12,733
Speaker 13: really beautiful thick preserve that they really favor in Spain

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Speaker 13: and Portugal. So that you have a little paste or

641
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Speaker 13: a little sort of square of this jelly and you

642
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Speaker 13: serve that with beautiful sharp cheeses like manchego, which is

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Speaker 13: a sheep cheese or parmesan or something like that, and

644
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Speaker 13: so absolutely beautiful. So I photographed these the other day.

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Speaker 13: The photographer looked, you know, I mean, he was kind

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Speaker 13: of into it.

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Speaker 10: But then he had the cheese with the quidz past.

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Speaker 13: It was like, oh my god, this is amazing. So

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Speaker 13: all right, here we go. So once you have baked them,

650
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Speaker 13: off and coored them.

651
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Speaker 10: You then drain all the liquid off.

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Speaker 13: You can use that for something else, mix it with

653
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Speaker 13: some soda water or something like that.

654
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Speaker 10: It's delicious.

655
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Speaker 13: Take your fruit and you want to pure it, and

656
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Speaker 13: then you.

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Speaker 10: Want to weigh it.

658
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Speaker 13: And why you want to weigh it, I mean you

659
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Speaker 13: could measure it out. I suppose you could do a

660
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Speaker 13: cup by cup, but then you want to find out

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Speaker 13: and you know, I had about one point five pages

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Speaker 13: of pure and I wanted to use seventy five percent

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Speaker 13: of that amount in sugar. Okay, So that's kind of

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Speaker 13: what it is. If you got a cup, you want

665
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Speaker 13: a cup of pure a, you want to use three

666
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Speaker 13: quarters of a cup of sugar, and good squeeze of

667
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Speaker 13: lemon juice they trip. There is also about one juicy

668
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Speaker 13: lemon per cup of quiz paste. And then you start

669
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Speaker 13: simmering at jack and you simmer it for about forty

670
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Speaker 13: five minutes, maybe to an hour, and as I say,

671
00:34:27,773 --> 00:34:31,413
Speaker 13: it'll go through those beautiful color changes, and it'll also

672
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Speaker 13: thicken up.

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Speaker 10: It spits everywhere. So do it in a high sided.

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Speaker 13: Pot if you can, and use a long handled spoon

675
00:34:38,733 --> 00:34:40,213
Speaker 13: to give it a stir every now and again. As

676
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Speaker 13: you go past and just on a sort of slow

677
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Speaker 13: to medium i'd say, and it'll all sort.

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Speaker 2: Of blip blip blip blip.

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Speaker 10: Away in your kitchen and it's so lovely.

680
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Speaker 13: And then pour it into a sandwich tin that you've

681
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Speaker 13: lined with perhaps some greastproof paper and let it set

682
00:34:54,333 --> 00:34:56,893
Speaker 13: and the fridge. I let it cure in the fridge

683
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Speaker 13: uncovered for you know, maybe even a week. You don't

684
00:35:00,013 --> 00:35:01,733
Speaker 13: have to do that, but it just I like the

685
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Speaker 13: consistency of it.

686
00:35:03,133 --> 00:35:04,613
Speaker 2: And then you cut it into.

687
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Speaker 10: Little squeeze wrap it up. It'll keep for over a year.

688
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Speaker 13: Just put it in an ear type container in the fridge.

689
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Speaker 15: Man.

690
00:35:11,733 --> 00:35:13,053
Speaker 10: Every now and again you take.

691
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Speaker 13: A few little slices or squeeze off it to sealve

692
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Speaker 13: with cheese, and it's just exquisite gets better over time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a year is out impressive too, I mean, I know, yeah, rap, yeah, yeah,

694
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Speaker 2: that's great.

695
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Speaker 4: That's great.

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Speaker 13: I mean it's got all that sugar in it, and

697
00:35:27,773 --> 00:35:30,173
Speaker 13: it's got loads pitted in it and the quint so

698
00:35:30,333 --> 00:35:32,253
Speaker 13: you know, it preserves, you know, and keeps really well,

699
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Speaker 13: and it's the nicest gift in the world.

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Speaker 2: studio album. This one has written entirely into the or Maldi.

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Speaker 2: Marlon is, of course sing a songwriter who has collaborated

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Speaker 2: roots here in Altor. He joins us, this morning, cald A,

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Speaker 2: good morning to where Jack look you Mi, welcome to

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Speaker 2: the studio. To Fuddy ta WakaWaka. That means the messy house.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't it tak Yeah? Yeah, yeah, the messy house. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's sort of a I guess I suppose on one level,

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Speaker 4: it's a sort of a metaphor for the the pains

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771
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Speaker 4: and you sort of sit quietly and let them talk

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Speaker 4: to each other and then hopefully they they formed some

775
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Speaker 4: sort of cohesive thing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, explain that to us more. What do you mean

777
00:40:48,613 --> 00:40:50,853
Speaker 2: it's a it's a metaphor. So you basically had your

778
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Speaker 2: feeling like things were a bit scrambled, and this is

779
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Speaker 2: this has been a process of clarifying.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you know, I think it's that speaks to the

782
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Speaker 4: fact you've got to let you've got to let the

783
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Speaker 4: chaos sit for a while before and and and not

784
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Speaker 4: try and impose any too much will on them, let

785
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Speaker 4: on things before they before they've had a time to

786
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Speaker 4: speak to each other and sort of arrange themselves.

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Speaker 2: Okay. What is striking to many about the album is

788
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Speaker 2: this is your first full album entirely in Todel. Marty

789
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Speaker 2: tell us about that decision.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's been around, It's been around in my

791
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Speaker 4: head for a while. The idea of doing it, you know,

792
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Speaker 4: I grew up speaking a little bit, went to Kwangadel,

793
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Speaker 4: but it all sort of drifted away from me again

794
00:41:36,573 --> 00:41:40,173
Speaker 4: as I went into my moved on into my childhood,

795
00:41:40,173 --> 00:41:44,133
Speaker 4: into primary school. But I always was always singing and

796
00:41:44,253 --> 00:41:48,413
Speaker 4: Marty and you know, it's just such a beautifully beautiful

797
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Speaker 4: song language. So I always knew at some point that

798
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Speaker 4: I was going to come back around and give myself

799
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Speaker 4: an excuse to be able to sing sing in Todell.

800
00:41:57,853 --> 00:42:02,133
Speaker 4: And yet twenty nineteen came along and I sort of

801
00:42:02,333 --> 00:42:05,973
Speaker 4: was in between writing records and the first sort of

802
00:42:06,053 --> 00:42:09,733
Speaker 4: first came out came came to me, which was which

803
00:42:09,733 --> 00:42:13,693
Speaker 4: is the first single? And I born in a collaborator

804
00:42:14,373 --> 00:42:19,253
Speaker 4: and a fellow little Tonian, a rapper and today or

805
00:42:19,293 --> 00:42:23,333
Speaker 4: Marty teacher named Commy and so they, yeah, they helped me,

806
00:42:25,173 --> 00:42:28,813
Speaker 4: grace very gracious sleep to put the album together and

807
00:42:28,893 --> 00:42:30,493
Speaker 4: then yeah, we just sort of wrote over the next

808
00:42:30,533 --> 00:42:32,733
Speaker 4: few years and then recorded at the end of twenty

809
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Speaker 4: twenty three and now we're we're releasing.

810
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Speaker 2: So if you compare where your Marty's at today with

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Speaker 2: where it was in say twenty eighteen or started twenty nineteen, like,

812
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Speaker 2: do you feel like you've you've got a more intimate

813
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Speaker 2: relationship with the all.

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Speaker 4: It's getting there, it's you know, it's it's a very

815
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Speaker 4: humbling process.

816
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Speaker 2: So there is there are a few things more humbling

817
00:42:55,973 --> 00:42:59,213
Speaker 2: than learning a language. But I can imagine as someone

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Speaker 2: with Marty fucker Pupper like it takes on another kind

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Speaker 2: of level.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's lots of there's lots of layers going

821
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Speaker 4: on there, but you know, it's yeah, I've still got

822
00:43:07,333 --> 00:43:08,733
Speaker 4: I've still got a lot a long way to go

823
00:43:08,813 --> 00:43:13,413
Speaker 4: on the journey. But writing, writing in the language, and

824
00:43:13,613 --> 00:43:17,213
Speaker 4: and and you know, and working with working with the collaborator,

825
00:43:17,453 --> 00:43:21,653
Speaker 4: a proficient collaborator. Was Yeah, it was a really nice

826
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Speaker 4: step along the way.

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Speaker 2: You said that you grew up singing in Maudi a lot,

828
00:43:27,293 --> 00:43:28,613
Speaker 2: so so in what context was.

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Speaker 4: That there was that every year we'd have the kita

830
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Speaker 4: who who we are to, which would be at various

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Speaker 4: various muddi around the takua down there, and yeah, every

832
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Speaker 4: year Mum and I would get in get in her

833
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Speaker 4: old Volvo and and Kram learn all this all the

834
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Speaker 4: songs that we're going to be sung, which were a beautiful,

835
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Speaker 4: beautiful wiater from down there. There's songs by the Craft

836
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Speaker 4: Sisters and and other other great composers that have come

837
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Speaker 4: out of out of Kota. Who So, yeah, it was,

838
00:43:57,973 --> 00:44:00,213
Speaker 4: it was that was always there as a at least

839
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Speaker 4: in musical form.

840
00:44:01,293 --> 00:44:02,693
Speaker 2: And so how would you learn it? She would just

841
00:44:02,733 --> 00:44:03,053
Speaker 2: teach you.

842
00:44:03,413 --> 00:44:05,813
Speaker 4: We we had there were tapes. There were there were

843
00:44:05,893 --> 00:44:08,933
Speaker 4: cassette apes that we play in the car and go

844
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Speaker 4: get getting old.

845
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Speaker 2: No, no, that's amazing.

846
00:44:12,333 --> 00:44:14,213
Speaker 4: But yeah, so it was, you know, it was, it

847
00:44:14,333 --> 00:44:16,093
Speaker 4: was great. It was just it would take a good

848
00:44:16,293 --> 00:44:19,013
Speaker 4: you know sometimes that I would be five hours away,

849
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Speaker 4: so it five hours to just play it over and over.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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00:44:22,133 --> 00:44:23,493
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, if you're in if you're in

852
00:44:23,613 --> 00:44:25,453
Speaker 2: like Autoitaian christ Church and you've got to go to

853
00:44:25,533 --> 00:44:27,413
Speaker 2: or it's only like an hour or so, then.

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Speaker 4: We might extrift to prep Yeah, yeah.

855
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Speaker 2: You're stuff on Little River for a couple of hours

856
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Speaker 2: on the way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing how you can reflect on things like

859
00:44:36,893 --> 00:44:38,693
Speaker 2: that and it you know, I don't know how you

860
00:44:38,733 --> 00:44:40,333
Speaker 2: felt about it at the time, but it turns out

861
00:44:40,373 --> 00:44:43,093
Speaker 2: to be quite a foundational thing in your in your life,

862
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Speaker 2: you know, like, yeah, the kind of you know, in

863
00:44:47,893 --> 00:44:49,493
Speaker 2: the moment, you don't think about oh, you don't think

864
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Speaker 2: I'm learning anything here. You don't think that this is

865
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Speaker 2: something that's necessarily super meaningful or you know, matters that

866
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Speaker 2: much in my life. But then you look back on

867
00:44:56,653 --> 00:44:58,413
Speaker 2: it after twenty or thirty years and you go, I'm like, god,

868
00:44:58,453 --> 00:44:59,773
Speaker 2: actually that was quite significant.

869
00:44:59,853 --> 00:45:02,053
Speaker 4: Well it's yeah, I think that's the directness of music too.

870
00:45:02,093 --> 00:45:05,733
Speaker 4: You know, it's just it's it's Music's just there and

871
00:45:06,013 --> 00:45:08,413
Speaker 4: it's compelling and it's and it draws you in. So

872
00:45:08,613 --> 00:45:12,213
Speaker 4: it was just and obviously you know, it was very

873
00:45:12,933 --> 00:45:14,773
Speaker 4: very into music as a child, so it just it

874
00:45:14,933 --> 00:45:17,533
Speaker 4: just it took me on and it never you know,

875
00:45:17,693 --> 00:45:20,573
Speaker 4: I've been singing those songs at least in my head

876
00:45:21,173 --> 00:45:22,293
Speaker 4: ever since. For sure.

877
00:45:22,493 --> 00:45:23,333
Speaker 2: Is your mam a good singer.

878
00:45:23,733 --> 00:45:25,653
Speaker 4: Yes, he's a great singer. Yeah, he's got a lovely,

879
00:45:25,853 --> 00:45:27,813
Speaker 4: lovely soprano. Oh that's not.

880
00:45:29,573 --> 00:45:29,613
Speaker 6: So.

881
00:45:30,173 --> 00:45:31,893
Speaker 2: Leading up to U, say, twenty nineteen, because you've seen

882
00:45:31,893 --> 00:45:35,093
Speaker 2: this album's taken about five years to kind of organize,

883
00:45:36,413 --> 00:45:38,493
Speaker 2: it struck me that you were like living the kind

884
00:45:38,533 --> 00:45:41,493
Speaker 2: of international jet set of life and a good way.

885
00:45:41,533 --> 00:45:43,773
Speaker 2: I mean, you were traveling the world, experiencing all these

886
00:45:43,813 --> 00:45:45,693
Speaker 2: different cities and cultures and playing and all sorts of

887
00:45:45,733 --> 00:45:50,013
Speaker 2: amazing places and stuff. Why do you think that process

888
00:45:50,173 --> 00:45:54,453
Speaker 2: has ultimately ended up with you really focusing on your

889
00:45:54,493 --> 00:45:54,973
Speaker 2: place here.

890
00:45:56,613 --> 00:45:58,613
Speaker 4: I think it's a few reasons that. Yeah, I think

891
00:45:58,693 --> 00:46:01,893
Speaker 4: it was a general desire to be to be home.

892
00:46:02,933 --> 00:46:05,533
Speaker 4: You know. Obviously COVID came in the middle of that

893
00:46:05,773 --> 00:46:11,533
Speaker 4: and to further further consolidated that feeling. And you know,

894
00:46:11,653 --> 00:46:14,133
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, it's just it's just been there as

895
00:46:14,173 --> 00:46:19,853
Speaker 4: a sort of yawning chasm in my in my I guess,

896
00:46:20,093 --> 00:46:22,213
Speaker 4: in some sense of my self knowledge, you know. So

897
00:46:22,373 --> 00:46:26,333
Speaker 4: it was, yeah, it was it felt it just felt inevitable, inevitable.

898
00:46:26,413 --> 00:46:28,133
Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't know when it was going to happen,

899
00:46:28,413 --> 00:46:31,213
Speaker 4: but it just, yeah, it just felt like all things

900
00:46:31,293 --> 00:46:33,333
Speaker 4: get all things considered, that this was there was the

901
00:46:33,413 --> 00:46:34,053
Speaker 4: right time to do it.

902
00:46:34,253 --> 00:46:37,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was going to happen at some point,

903
00:46:37,893 --> 00:46:39,253
Speaker 2: and you felt like you kind of owed it to

904
00:46:39,253 --> 00:46:40,573
Speaker 2: yourself at some point, but you need.

905
00:46:40,573 --> 00:46:43,093
Speaker 4: To get there and yeah, and it's yeah, it's just

906
00:46:43,213 --> 00:46:44,813
Speaker 4: as I say, it's just another excuse to be able

907
00:46:44,813 --> 00:46:47,893
Speaker 4: to hang out at home and just yeah, spend time

908
00:46:47,933 --> 00:46:48,813
Speaker 4: in this beautiful country.

909
00:46:48,973 --> 00:46:51,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's I don't know who it was it was

910
00:46:51,493 --> 00:46:54,973
Speaker 2: like T Lawrence or someone had this phrase about traveling

911
00:46:55,053 --> 00:46:57,773
Speaker 2: or was quote about traveling that I always liked. It's

912
00:46:57,773 --> 00:46:59,973
Speaker 2: a bit cheesy, but it definitely rings true in my experience,

913
00:47:00,213 --> 00:47:03,133
Speaker 2: and it was that the more a man travels, the

914
00:47:03,293 --> 00:47:05,653
Speaker 2: more he learns about his own home, but the more

915
00:47:05,733 --> 00:47:07,893
Speaker 2: perspective get it on the world in different cultures and

916
00:47:07,933 --> 00:47:10,773
Speaker 2: places and all of that, the one place you learned

917
00:47:10,813 --> 00:47:14,133
Speaker 2: the most about is home because you were able to contextualize.

918
00:47:14,253 --> 00:47:18,813
Speaker 4: Totally it's going on. I definitely definitely felt that, you know,

919
00:47:18,893 --> 00:47:22,773
Speaker 4: and I also think conversely, you've got to go away

920
00:47:22,853 --> 00:47:25,773
Speaker 4: to appreciate a way to appreciate it, to be able

921
00:47:25,773 --> 00:47:29,533
Speaker 4: to contextualize it. You know, I don't think it's I

922
00:47:29,613 --> 00:47:34,733
Speaker 4: think it's no use telling a disgruntled teenager that that

923
00:47:34,853 --> 00:47:36,333
Speaker 4: they've got that they live in the best place in

924
00:47:36,413 --> 00:47:38,653
Speaker 4: the world and that there's no point in them traveling,

925
00:47:38,653 --> 00:47:42,053
Speaker 4: because it's a lie. But it's also true that they'll,

926
00:47:42,333 --> 00:47:46,093
Speaker 4: you know, they'll more more often than not, they'll fall

927
00:47:46,173 --> 00:47:48,293
Speaker 4: back in love with with home again. Yeah, and that

928
00:47:48,413 --> 00:47:51,693
Speaker 4: was your experience, Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, I have always loved

929
00:47:51,733 --> 00:47:56,653
Speaker 4: it here, but definitely, yeah, crystallized from from all those

930
00:47:56,733 --> 00:47:57,813
Speaker 4: years of traveling.

931
00:47:57,813 --> 00:48:02,933
Speaker 2: You mentioned, and you mentioned and when I listened to it,

932
00:48:03,013 --> 00:48:07,373
Speaker 2: the first single from the album, it just sounded so

933
00:48:07,613 --> 00:48:10,173
Speaker 2: much like the kind of sixties show band stuff. And

934
00:48:10,213 --> 00:48:12,413
Speaker 2: then I saw afterwards that that's exactly what it kind

935
00:48:12,453 --> 00:48:14,773
Speaker 2: of inspired that sound. So have you been listening to

936
00:48:14,773 --> 00:48:15,693
Speaker 2: a lot of that kind of music?

937
00:48:15,853 --> 00:48:19,173
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I grew up on Elvis and and

938
00:48:19,253 --> 00:48:21,493
Speaker 4: the Platters and and you know all those and in

939
00:48:22,333 --> 00:48:27,173
Speaker 4: Howard Morrison Quartet more locally people like that. So yeah,

940
00:48:27,213 --> 00:48:30,093
Speaker 4: it's that's always been there in my you know, in

941
00:48:30,173 --> 00:48:34,773
Speaker 4: my listening habits. And I think, yeah, Marya is a language,

942
00:48:34,973 --> 00:48:37,213
Speaker 4: like the pure phonetics of it just lend themselves so

943
00:48:37,253 --> 00:48:40,173
Speaker 4: beautifully to that that style of singing. And you know,

944
00:48:40,213 --> 00:48:42,533
Speaker 4: there's this I think there's a sort of a there's

945
00:48:42,533 --> 00:48:50,053
Speaker 4: a correlation globally with indigenous cultures and crooner's I've found. Yeah, yeah,

946
00:48:50,173 --> 00:48:54,293
Speaker 4: I think, you know, there's there's lots of all. You know,

947
00:48:54,573 --> 00:48:57,213
Speaker 4: there's a there's a real big crooning crooning scene over

948
00:48:57,253 --> 00:49:02,573
Speaker 4: in Australia. Yeah, I've just I've always noticed that there's people, Yeah,

949
00:49:02,973 --> 00:49:05,813
Speaker 4: people from indigenous cultures tend to love to warble.

950
00:49:06,653 --> 00:49:07,253
Speaker 2: That's interesting.

951
00:49:07,333 --> 00:49:08,013
Speaker 10: What do you think that is.

952
00:49:08,213 --> 00:49:10,173
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's something in the I don't know

953
00:49:10,293 --> 00:49:14,853
Speaker 4: that the just some sort of alignment of passion. I guess, yeah,

954
00:49:14,893 --> 00:49:17,173
Speaker 4: but it's I don't know. For me, it's it's a happy,

955
00:49:17,413 --> 00:49:19,933
Speaker 4: happy marriage because I've yeah, I love that, love that stuff.

956
00:49:20,173 --> 00:49:21,973
Speaker 2: Okay, just think off the top of my head. Could

957
00:49:22,013 --> 00:49:27,573
Speaker 2: it be that a lot of indigenous cultures aren't driven

958
00:49:27,653 --> 00:49:32,333
Speaker 2: by the same kind of like urgency of like of

959
00:49:32,653 --> 00:49:35,813
Speaker 2: modern life, like like you know, like well, like we're

960
00:49:35,853 --> 00:49:39,293
Speaker 2: so always in a rush for everything, and I feel

961
00:49:39,373 --> 00:49:42,133
Speaker 2: like I feel like indigenous cultures even the way that

962
00:49:42,213 --> 00:49:45,173
Speaker 2: we think about like tow Maldi kind of contextualizes everything

963
00:49:45,213 --> 00:49:48,213
Speaker 2: in a over longer time timespans. And I wonder if

964
00:49:48,693 --> 00:49:52,893
Speaker 2: being able to slink sing slowly kind of reflects that

965
00:49:52,973 --> 00:49:53,853
Speaker 2: maybe I'm thinking too deep.

966
00:49:53,973 --> 00:49:56,573
Speaker 4: No, I mean that's good. Let's get into ISNA musicology.

967
00:49:56,173 --> 00:50:01,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, play, or or just simply that the a lot

968
00:50:01,853 --> 00:50:04,093
Speaker 2: of Indigenous languages are more poet I.

969
00:50:04,133 --> 00:50:06,293
Speaker 4: Think, yeah, maybe there's I think there's a sense of

970
00:50:06,493 --> 00:50:13,013
Speaker 4: romance and and sort of yeah, like a of a

971
00:50:13,893 --> 00:50:17,373
Speaker 4: version of or a vision of beauty as it's as

972
00:50:17,413 --> 00:50:20,573
Speaker 4: it's in terms of singing. That's that, Yeah, they're just

973
00:50:20,693 --> 00:50:23,533
Speaker 4: closely aligns and I love I love for for nice things,

974
00:50:23,653 --> 00:50:24,413
Speaker 4: for pretty things.

975
00:50:24,573 --> 00:50:27,573
Speaker 2: You know, you see has got a big crooning scene.

976
00:50:27,813 --> 00:50:30,173
Speaker 2: What does a what does a big crooning scene look like? Oh?

977
00:50:30,253 --> 00:50:32,613
Speaker 4: I just you know, you just going to go into

978
00:50:32,653 --> 00:50:36,973
Speaker 4: some of those remote Aboriginal communities and and if you go,

979
00:50:37,093 --> 00:50:39,933
Speaker 4: if there's a karaoke machine, then you know, I think

980
00:50:40,013 --> 00:50:42,653
Speaker 4: it's from what from my experience, people over there are

981
00:50:42,653 --> 00:50:45,493
Speaker 4: singing Freddy Fender in the same way that they are. Yeah,

982
00:50:45,533 --> 00:50:51,533
Speaker 4: you know, like that that that heart hearty rat, passionate singing.

983
00:50:51,853 --> 00:50:55,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, so you I mean, this is an album,

984
00:50:55,373 --> 00:51:00,213
Speaker 2: it's a docco it's a tour as well. To talk

985
00:51:00,333 --> 00:51:03,973
Speaker 2: us through the touring process, because I mean you're playing

986
00:51:04,053 --> 00:51:07,573
Speaker 2: some diverse places from Moydocky to New.

987
00:51:07,573 --> 00:51:10,893
Speaker 4: York, right, Yeah, yeah, I mean it's there's a lot

988
00:51:10,933 --> 00:51:13,653
Speaker 4: of a lot of different people I want to be

989
00:51:13,733 --> 00:51:17,093
Speaker 4: able to perform in front of. And yeah, I'm really

990
00:51:17,173 --> 00:51:19,813
Speaker 4: curious to you know, it's all music when you put

991
00:51:19,853 --> 00:51:23,693
Speaker 4: it out and you perform it in different places, the songs,

992
00:51:24,413 --> 00:51:26,693
Speaker 4: the song shift depending on the context of you know,

993
00:51:26,853 --> 00:51:29,773
Speaker 4: where you're playing, and certainly going to be true of

994
00:51:29,813 --> 00:51:33,373
Speaker 4: this record I think, you know, it's obviously playing to Yeah,

995
00:51:33,613 --> 00:51:36,213
Speaker 4: playing to a bunch of my Fino and moduky, it's

996
00:51:36,253 --> 00:51:37,613
Speaker 4: going to be different to playing at it in a

997
00:51:37,693 --> 00:51:41,813
Speaker 4: bar and Lower East Side. So yeah, I just I'm

998
00:51:42,053 --> 00:51:45,373
Speaker 4: I'm always fascinated to find out how how things resonate

999
00:51:45,413 --> 00:51:49,133
Speaker 4: differently in different spaces, and yeah, with this this example,

1000
00:51:49,213 --> 00:51:51,213
Speaker 4: I'm yeah, it's going to be to be very interesting.

1001
00:51:51,333 --> 00:51:54,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you how do you anticipate an album

1002
00:51:55,253 --> 00:51:59,253
Speaker 2: entirely into or Mardi is going to translate to to

1003
00:51:59,653 --> 00:52:01,133
Speaker 2: New York or LA or London.

1004
00:52:01,253 --> 00:52:03,893
Speaker 4: I think I think, you know, as a as a

1005
00:52:04,373 --> 00:52:08,893
Speaker 4: as a world where I'm becoming more use to not

1006
00:52:09,973 --> 00:52:13,173
Speaker 4: not needing to understand everything all that literally all the time,

1007
00:52:13,373 --> 00:52:17,733
Speaker 4: you know, And I think, yeah, which is a very

1008
00:52:17,773 --> 00:52:20,293
Speaker 4: positive thing and just as well because it's you know,

1009
00:52:21,293 --> 00:52:24,973
Speaker 4: everyone's knowledge of the world is expanding at a terrifying rate,

1010
00:52:25,613 --> 00:52:28,893
Speaker 4: so there's just so much information to take in. But

1011
00:52:29,013 --> 00:52:33,213
Speaker 4: I think people, yeah, my experiences, people genuinely are are

1012
00:52:33,533 --> 00:52:38,333
Speaker 4: more and more receptive to hearing things and in other languages.

1013
00:52:39,333 --> 00:52:41,693
Speaker 2: Finally, then if this album has been a process of

1014
00:52:42,333 --> 00:52:46,933
Speaker 2: kind of organizing your own place and identity in your

1015
00:52:46,973 --> 00:52:51,013
Speaker 2: own mind, at the very least, what has changed over

1016
00:52:51,053 --> 00:52:53,213
Speaker 2: the last five years about the way you kind of

1017
00:52:53,213 --> 00:52:53,813
Speaker 2: see yourself?

1018
00:52:54,773 --> 00:53:00,613
Speaker 4: Of course a big question. I'm not sure. Yeah, damn,

1019
00:53:00,933 --> 00:53:06,253
Speaker 4: I don't know. Things. Things change so quickly. For me, said,

1020
00:53:06,253 --> 00:53:09,373
Speaker 4: I definitely struggle with trying to like work out work

1021
00:53:09,413 --> 00:53:13,693
Speaker 4: out my my identity of a time, my die chronic identity.

1022
00:53:15,773 --> 00:53:18,533
Speaker 4: You know, it's I honestly couldn't tell you. I couldn't

1023
00:53:18,573 --> 00:53:19,693
Speaker 4: tell you who I was yesterday.

1024
00:53:21,133 --> 00:53:22,893
Speaker 2: Do you feel like it's Do you feel like you've

1025
00:53:22,973 --> 00:53:25,133
Speaker 2: kind of reached a conclusion though, if if the if

1026
00:53:25,173 --> 00:53:28,773
Speaker 2: it was to t Wicker Wicker to start with, is

1027
00:53:28,813 --> 00:53:31,453
Speaker 2: it any less today? No?

1028
00:53:31,733 --> 00:53:35,973
Speaker 4: I think there is. There is for pragmatic purposes, you know,

1029
00:53:36,053 --> 00:53:39,213
Speaker 4: I've got to present something to the world, and and

1030
00:53:39,853 --> 00:53:44,013
Speaker 4: you know, but nothing's ever finished, is Yeah. I think

1031
00:53:44,773 --> 00:53:46,853
Speaker 4: it's pretty pretty natural to sort of get to the

1032
00:53:46,933 --> 00:53:50,733
Speaker 4: end of a project and and be healthily dissatisfied, you know,

1033
00:53:51,373 --> 00:53:53,053
Speaker 4: and just because it gives you, it spoons you on

1034
00:53:53,173 --> 00:53:55,973
Speaker 4: to find the next next spark of things.

1035
00:53:56,213 --> 00:53:58,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, congratulations on the album. I really hope you

1036
00:53:59,533 --> 00:54:03,213
Speaker 2: enjoy the touring experience, and yeah, look forward to seeing

1037
00:54:03,213 --> 00:54:06,333
Speaker 2: you so so good. That is is Marlon Williams. Tiff

1038
00:54:06,413 --> 00:54:09,453
Speaker 2: Fuddy t wicker Wika is out now and the documentary

1039
00:54:09,493 --> 00:54:12,973
Speaker 2: about the creation of the album is coming out at

1040
00:54:12,973 --> 00:54:16,733
Speaker 2: the start of May. So the documentary is called Our Ruer,

1041
00:54:16,813 --> 00:54:19,373
Speaker 2: which means two Worlds. It's going to be in Cinema's nationwide.

1042
00:54:19,413 --> 00:54:21,453
Speaker 2: Marlin's going to be on tour across the country throughout

1043
00:54:21,573 --> 00:54:24,773
Speaker 2: May and June. He's heading heaps and heaps of different places,

1044
00:54:25,213 --> 00:54:26,853
Speaker 2: and we're going to have all the details up on

1045
00:54:26,973 --> 00:54:29,933
Speaker 2: the news talks he'db website now before eleven o'clock. We

1046
00:54:30,093 --> 00:54:33,893
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1047
00:54:34,093 --> 00:54:37,133
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1048
00:54:37,213 --> 00:54:38,733
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1049
00:54:38,813 --> 00:54:40,893
Speaker 2: In middle Age, you hear stories about people playing so

1050
00:54:41,133 --> 00:54:42,773
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1051
00:54:42,853 --> 00:54:45,853
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1052
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1053
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1054
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Speaker 17: for ten years in the nineteen eighties. Had a very

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Speaker 17: iconic theme song, and We'll sit on the island of Jersey,

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Speaker 17: and it was about a detective called Jim Bergerac who

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Speaker 17: was a very skilled detective but quite troubled personally, like

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Speaker 17: nearly all TV detectives, and you know, people just kept

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Speaker 17: getting killed in mysterious circumstances on Jersey. So this new reboot,

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Speaker 17: which has just come to TVNZ plus, is paying tribute

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Speaker 17: to the original show, but it's still very much a

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Speaker 17: new series. They've carried through a few of the details.

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00:56:24,813 --> 00:56:27,373
Speaker 17: Bergerax still has trouble with alcohol, he still drives a

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Speaker 17: very nice car, and it's still filmed in this beautiful location.

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Speaker 17: But otherwise this is much darker and slower than the original.

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Speaker 17: Bergeack's wife has just died, he's raising a teenage daughter,

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Speaker 17: and I think it's maybe missing a bit of the

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Speaker 17: charm of the original. It feels quite sort of tried

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Speaker 17: and true for a British crime drama. So if you

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Speaker 17: did love the original, don't go into this thinking it's

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Speaker 17: going to be exactly the same.

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Speaker 10: But if you do like a quieter.

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Speaker 17: Detective series, it's a bit slower, and it's got that

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Speaker 17: beautiful setting, which is a format that works really.

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Speaker 6: Well for British drama. It just kind of gets repeated

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Speaker 6: over and over again.

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Speaker 10: This is definitely worth a life.

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Speaker 2: Okay, very good really herself with that, So I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: That's on TV and Z Plus. Also on TV and

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Speaker 2: Z Plus. Am I being unreasonable?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: This is a gem of a series that I've only

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00:57:16,213 --> 00:57:18,653
Speaker 17: just started watching but have been really enjoying it. It's

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Speaker 17: an award winning British series that starts out as a

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Speaker 17: comedy and then turns into a thriller. It was created

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Speaker 17: by Daisy May Cooper and Selene Heasley, who both star

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Speaker 17: in this. Daisy May Cooper plays Nick, who is a

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Speaker 17: mum and a wife. She's quite lonely. She's having an affair.

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Speaker 17: She has this deep secret that she can't tell anyone,

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Speaker 17: and she makes friends with a new school mom called Jen,

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00:57:41,373 --> 00:57:44,493
Speaker 17: and they become fast friends. You know, it looks like

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Speaker 17: this friendship could be the answer at all of Nick's problems.

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Speaker 17: But then Gen is not everything she seems, and Maybe's

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00:57:52,373 --> 00:57:55,493
Speaker 17: next secret is not going to stay secret for much longer.

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00:57:55,853 --> 00:57:57,813
Speaker 17: And what I really liked about this series is that

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Speaker 17: it plays with different genres. So one moment it's a

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Speaker 17: dark comedy, the next it's got all these twists and

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Speaker 17: turns of a mystery. It's sort of heartwarming and sad

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Speaker 17: and funny at the same time. And about halfway through

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00:58:09,213 --> 00:58:12,133
Speaker 17: it changes perspective. You see the story from a different viewpoint,

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Speaker 17: so it keeps us on our toes. It's having fun

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Speaker 17: with that format without giving us all the answers at once,

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Speaker 17: so you know, quite unpredictable. I've nearly finished season one

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Speaker 17: and I've got no idea where it's going to go,

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00:58:22,773 --> 00:58:25,053
Speaker 17: so I really like that. It's clever and smart, and

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Speaker 17: two seasons are on TVZ Plus.

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Speaker 2: Cracking Okay, cool, that sounds great? Am I being unreasonable?

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Speaker 2: On Prime Video? Last One Laughing UK?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, the show has been all over my social media

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Speaker 17: feed this week and it's my pick. If you're looking

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00:58:39,653 --> 00:58:43,053
Speaker 17: for something silly and ridiculous to enjoy this weekend. This

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Speaker 17: is Last One Laughing UK, which is an international format,

1135
00:58:46,213 --> 00:58:48,413
Speaker 17: but the UK version has just dropped on Prime Video.

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Speaker 17: The show takes ten comedians and puts them in like

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Speaker 17: a Big Brother type house with lots of cameras for

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Speaker 17: six hours, and in that six hours, there's only one

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00:58:58,893 --> 00:59:00,653
Speaker 17: rule that they're not allowed to laugh.

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Speaker 10: If you laugh, you're out of the game.

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00:59:02,613 --> 00:59:05,453
Speaker 17: So each comedian is trying to get everyone else to

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00:59:05,573 --> 00:59:09,053
Speaker 17: laugh without laughing themselves. And I think what makes the

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00:59:09,093 --> 00:59:11,973
Speaker 17: British version so good as the comedians they've got on board.

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00:59:12,013 --> 00:59:15,253
Speaker 17: That's hosted by Jimmy Carr and Mashen Connete. You've got

1145
00:59:15,333 --> 00:59:19,853
Speaker 17: Bob Mortimer, Richard Aoardi, Daisy mc cooper, Joe Wilkinson, lots

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00:59:19,893 --> 00:59:23,373
Speaker 17: of comedians who already do that dead pan, straight faced

1147
00:59:23,453 --> 00:59:26,333
Speaker 17: comedy already, so I think that probably helps them. But

1148
00:59:26,493 --> 00:59:28,813
Speaker 17: lots of familiar faces from panel shows like What I

1149
00:59:28,893 --> 00:59:30,493
Speaker 17: Lie to You and Task Masters, So if you like

1150
00:59:30,573 --> 00:59:32,013
Speaker 17: those shows, you're like this.

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00:59:33,093 --> 00:59:34,293
Speaker 10: It's a very low stakes.

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00:59:34,333 --> 00:59:35,813
Speaker 17: I don't want to oversell it because some of the

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00:59:35,893 --> 00:59:37,853
Speaker 17: things they do to make the people laugh are just

1154
00:59:37,973 --> 00:59:40,573
Speaker 17: so over the top. But it's a really simple idea

1155
00:59:40,653 --> 00:59:42,933
Speaker 17: that works, and it's just a bit of fun. If

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00:59:42,973 --> 00:59:45,293
Speaker 17: you want cheering up and nothing more, this will do it.

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Speaker 2: It just sounds so good. It's such a simple concept

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00:59:48,653 --> 00:59:51,253
Speaker 2: day and there's something about the kind of British comedians

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Speaker 2: I think that really makes a show like that work. Hey,

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Speaker 2: very quickly, My pick for this week is Happiness, and

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Speaker 2: I saw that you wrote a great review of it

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00:59:59,853 --> 01:00:02,293
Speaker 2: on the spin off US today, So this is on

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Speaker 2: Thursdays on TV three and three now, and I'm going

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Speaker 2: to declare a bit of a conflict of interest. It

1165
01:00:09,093 --> 01:00:10,853
Speaker 2: is made by a couple of mates of mine, so

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Speaker 2: I do have some bias going into it now. But

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Speaker 2: here's the thing. I went along and I saw the

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Speaker 2: first three episodes, and I at first it took me.

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Speaker 2: It took me about ten or fifteen minutes to get

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Speaker 2: into it. So at first I was like, oh, I'm

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01:00:22,333 --> 01:00:24,533
Speaker 2: not totally sure. And then once I've just given it

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Speaker 2: ten to fifteen minutes, I thought, this is fantastic. It's

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Speaker 2: basically it's a comedy set in Tow Dunger, of all places,

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Speaker 2: and it's a kind of musical theater comedy. And when

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Speaker 2: I say musical theater comedy, musical theater in a very

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Speaker 2: meta sense in that it is a kind of cross

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Speaker 2: between Glee and you know, and like in a kind

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Speaker 2: of American comedy perhaps Set Set. Yeah, yeah, exactly, Set

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01:00:51,253 --> 01:00:53,933
Speaker 2: said and said in Tow Hunger, and yeah, I already

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01:00:53,973 --> 01:00:54,293
Speaker 2: enjoyed it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: It's our first New Zealand musical sitcom, which I think

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Speaker 17: is really really cool and ambitious and creative, and they've

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Speaker 17: done a beautiful job.

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Speaker 10: It's full of joy and energy. The music because great.

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Speaker 17: You know, you kind of find yourself humming along to

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Speaker 17: it and tapping your toes and it's just lovely to

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01:01:11,333 --> 01:01:14,773
Speaker 17: watch something that is light and fun and wholesome and

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Speaker 17: definitely very in New Zealand.

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Speaker 10: It's it's it's a really cool show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally agree. Hey, thank you very much, Tara. We

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Speaker 2: will get to you again next week. All of Tara's

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Speaker 2: screen time picks will be on the News Talks EDB website.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack team

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Speaker 1: on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 16: And I think it's gonna be a long, long time

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Speaker 16: Don't run again, fum.

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Speaker 2: Elton John might have retired from touring in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: but it does not mean he is any less active

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Speaker 2: as a recording artist. And he's just a brand new

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Speaker 2: album in collaboration with Americana artist Brandy Carlyle. The album's

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Speaker 2: called Who Believes In Angels. It was delayed a little

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Speaker 2: bit because Elton experienced a pretty serious health scier last

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Speaker 2: year and he's since talked about losing the majority of

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Speaker 2: his vision Since then, not slowing down has not been

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Speaker 2: much of an option. And you know, he's sort of

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Speaker 2: developed a reputation over the years of championing and supporting

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Speaker 2: rising artists throughout their careers. So he and Brandy first

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Speaker 2: collaborated way back in two thousand and nine on her

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Speaker 2: song Caroline. He made the acceptance call himself when the

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Speaker 2: request came through for that and for good reason, because

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Speaker 2: since then Brandy has become a Grammy winner. They collaborated

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Speaker 2: again last year for his documentary on the track never

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Speaker 2: Too Late and Anyway. We're gonna have a bit of

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Speaker 2: a listened before midday to the new album. Our music

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Speaker 2: reviewer Estelle has been listening to it as well, so

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Speaker 2: we'll make sure we save a bit of time before

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Speaker 2: midday to day to pick out a couple of tracks

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Speaker 2: and share those with you as well as that after

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Speaker 2: eleven o'clock this morning. We always say that our travel

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Speaker 2: correspondent has one of the toughest gigs in the broadcasting business,

1222
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Speaker 2: and he is really rubbing things and our faces. This morning,

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Speaker 2: he has tracked down the world's largest chocolate fountain, so

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Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you where you can find that.

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Speaker 2: After eleven this morning, our texperts in in a couple

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Speaker 2: of minutes twenty four to eleven non news dog ZB.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspakers, The mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 18: It's new world of terroriffs. What happens next? Does it

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Speaker 18: reshape global trade? Former US Department of Treasury economist Bread

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Speaker 18: Setster is with us.

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Speaker 7: It's a shockingly radical shift in policy. He increased tarots

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Speaker 7: on our host of trading partners by more than x

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Speaker 7: fact there.

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Speaker 18: Do you expect what happens to be followed by a

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Speaker 18: lot of phone calls? And what we're seeing is not

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Speaker 18: what we'll see in a couple of months.

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Speaker 7: There's still that of tariffs that are in the works

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Speaker 7: that haven't yet been imposed.

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Speaker 3: So on one hand, we know there are more terrorifts.

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Speaker 3: On the other hand, the clear.

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Speaker 7: Signal is that you're negotiating the tariff down, you're not

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Speaker 7: going to get the terror taken off.

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Speaker 18: Back Monday from six am, the Mike asking breakfast with

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Speaker 18: the rain driver of the last news talk zby.

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 2: The fallout from Donald Trump's tariffs across the world continues

1247
01:04:20,053 --> 01:04:22,813
Speaker 2: to escalate. The Chinese other night announcing that they would

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01:04:23,253 --> 01:04:26,573
Speaker 2: introduce retaliatory tariffs. I think New Zealand's tariff's kick off

1249
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Speaker 2: at about midnight tonight. But our textbit Paul Steinehouse is

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01:04:30,013 --> 01:04:32,893
Speaker 2: here with the details on a couple of the big

1251
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Speaker 2: companies already feeling the effects of Donald Trump's new policy.

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Speaker 2: And Paul Apple is going to take a beating.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, going to and already has two Jack. I was

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Speaker 19: just looking at the numbers just today, closed down seven

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Speaker 19: point three percent the last five days. It's down thirteen

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Speaker 19: percent on the past six months. It's almost down seventeen percent.

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Speaker 19: It's pretty But here's the one thing I did notice though,

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Speaker 19: if you go back to look at over the past year,

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Speaker 19: it's still up eleven percent, So I mean it is

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Speaker 19: a correction.

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Speaker 10: I I guess.

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Speaker 19: Still I'm not a financial person really, but you know

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01:05:09,813 --> 01:05:12,533
Speaker 19: we're not down, down, down yet, We're still down.

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Speaker 2: Camp were still the market cap of Raffle is still

1265
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Speaker 2: pretty impressive. Yeah, like two point nine trillion dollars.

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Speaker 19: So it's ridiculous, right, But I mean this is where

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Speaker 19: like Apple's just taken the real beating because I mean,

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Speaker 19: the first time around, when Donald Trump was an office,

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Speaker 19: they started to move some of their production to Vietnam.

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Speaker 19: The Vietnam's tariffs are at forty six percent, are at

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Speaker 19: fifty four percent, so they just can't win there. But

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Speaker 19: it's like you for the consumers in the US, I mean,

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Speaker 19: the only good news is that some of these companies

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Speaker 19: have seen this coming. They've pulled as much inventory into

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Speaker 19: the United States as they possibly can. And of course

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Speaker 19: the tariffs don't apply until the product crosses the border, right.

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Speaker 3: So it's already in the country.

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Speaker 19: You're good, But obviously that inventory will run out. And

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Speaker 19: what we're really looking to see with Apple, and this

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Speaker 19: is why there's just so much uncertainty with investors, is

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Speaker 19: how much of this will be passed on to the consumer.

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Speaker 19: On the Trump I think actually came and said, you know,

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Speaker 19: he's been talking to the big tech companies and he's

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Speaker 19: they've reassured them they're not going to pass it on. Well,

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Speaker 19: I mean, that still doesn't really help with the stock price,

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Speaker 19: because if they do increase the prices and put that

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Speaker 19: onto consumers, Apple's going to feel that because the assumption

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Speaker 19: will be that revenue will decrease, right because people are

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Speaker 19: probably going to hold onto their devices for longer. They're

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Speaker 19: just not going to have maybe as much discretionary spending.

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Speaker 19: But they're also hammered that if they take this on with,

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Speaker 19: you know, to take it out of their profit margin

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Speaker 19: two or their profits then get crushed. They don't have

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Speaker 19: as much capital to invest. Potentially, it's they don't really

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Speaker 19: win at all, and it's just this uncertainty. And it's

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Speaker 19: the uncertainty too. I don't know if you saw that

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Speaker 19: this week, but Nintendo Jack are putting out a brand

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Speaker 19: new Switch, the Switch too, but now they don't.

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Speaker 4: Know what they're going to do.

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Speaker 19: They've halted their pre orders on this new console that

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Speaker 19: was supposed to start in the US April nine because

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01:07:05,053 --> 01:07:07,493
Speaker 19: they said, and this is the direct quote, the company says,

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01:07:08,093 --> 01:07:09,973
Speaker 19: they are taking the step in order to assess the

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Speaker 19: potential impact of tariffs and evolving market conditions.

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Speaker 10: So they don't even want to sell the thing.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing. So presumably they've already sold some right, and

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Speaker 2: now because of the tariffs they might have to increase

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Speaker 2: the price.

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Speaker 19: They may have to increase the price, which means they're

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Speaker 19: oh yeah, and stopping the pre orders in the United States.

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Speaker 19: And they're only announced the new Switched like a couple

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Speaker 19: of days ago, and before they could even start the

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01:07:33,333 --> 01:07:35,333
Speaker 19: pre order, they said, actually, in the US, we're going

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Speaker 19: to hold that. So they're saying that the console is

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Speaker 19: still going to be for sale and be released generally

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Speaker 19: on June fifth, with the data unchanged and the price unchanged.

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Speaker 19: But I guess all of that is you have to admit,

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01:07:48,613 --> 01:07:51,213
Speaker 19: or have to expect, is subject to change.

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01:07:51,373 --> 01:07:53,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just on that.

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Speaker 19: The switch is probably something that's been talked about in

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01:07:55,493 --> 01:07:59,853
Speaker 19: people's households if they have young people. It's been hugely popular.

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Speaker 19: They sold like one hundred and fifty million of the

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01:08:01,613 --> 01:08:05,053
Speaker 19: first Switch Jack. Yeah, but the reviews about the Switch

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01:08:05,093 --> 01:08:08,133
Speaker 19: to are awesome. It's fast, awesome, it's a bit bigger,

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01:08:08,133 --> 01:08:10,013
Speaker 19: the screen's a bit bigger, but not so awesome. The

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01:08:10,053 --> 01:08:13,613
Speaker 19: price is going up yeah, and even more Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 19: maybe even more so. I think it's going to be

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Speaker 19: in New Zealand if it's on Christmas wish lists, like

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01:08:17,973 --> 01:08:18,813
Speaker 19: eight hundred dollars.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know.

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Speaker 19: But there's some new Mario Kart games and you're going

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01:08:23,653 --> 01:08:25,293
Speaker 19: to play it now with up to twenty four people.

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01:08:25,133 --> 01:08:26,733
Speaker 2: So it's kind of like lost.

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Speaker 19: But there's a real uncertainty around just everything. And I

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01:08:29,973 --> 01:08:31,893
Speaker 19: even heard, you know, this is me geeking out today.

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01:08:31,893 --> 01:08:35,093
Speaker 19: I listened into the fench hears Q and a he

1337
01:08:35,253 --> 01:08:37,853
Speaker 19: was doing with reporters, and all the questions were just

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01:08:37,893 --> 01:08:42,373
Speaker 19: about uncertainty. Uncertainty, uncertainty, uncertainty. What do people do with uncertainty?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fascinating times. Thanks Paul. At least we've got new

1340
01:08:45,893 --> 01:08:49,453
Speaker 2: Mario Kart games. Paul Stenhouse our textpit there before eleven

1341
01:08:49,453 --> 01:08:51,773
Speaker 2: o'clock we're in the garden. But doctor Brian Beatty is

1342
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Speaker 2: here next with one of those middle aged things. You

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Speaker 2: really want to avoid damage to your are Kelly's tendon?

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Speaker 2: What can we do to prevent it? Seventeen to eleven.

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Speaker 2: Brian betties with us this morning on one of those

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Speaker 2: injuries that any of us who happen to battle away

1351
01:09:19,853 --> 01:09:24,773
Speaker 2: in social sports dreads are ruptured. R Kelly's tendon. So, Brian,

1352
01:09:24,813 --> 01:09:26,293
Speaker 2: what actually is the Arkelley's tendon?

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01:09:27,253 --> 01:09:32,093
Speaker 20: Yeah, Hijack, Well, look, it's actually the largest strongest tendon

1354
01:09:32,173 --> 01:09:35,613
Speaker 20: in the human body. Now, it's a fibrous cord that

1355
01:09:35,733 --> 01:09:37,813
Speaker 20: is a bit of a rope type thing that attaches

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01:09:37,893 --> 01:09:40,773
Speaker 20: the back of our calf muscle of the lower leg

1357
01:09:41,013 --> 01:09:43,813
Speaker 20: to our heel, so you can actually feel it at

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01:09:43,853 --> 01:09:45,653
Speaker 20: the back of your ankle. It feels like like a

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01:09:45,773 --> 01:09:47,253
Speaker 20: rope or a bit of a cord at the back

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01:09:47,293 --> 01:09:51,133
Speaker 20: of your ankle. And it is absolutely critical to walking,

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01:09:51,533 --> 01:09:54,973
Speaker 20: running and jumping, so very very important in terms of

1362
01:09:55,053 --> 01:09:55,573
Speaker 20: our movement.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it's absolutely vital, isn't it. But it's one

1364
01:09:58,813 --> 01:10:01,133
Speaker 2: of those things that you hear people hear about people

1365
01:10:01,173 --> 01:10:03,253
Speaker 2: injuring all the time. How do we actually damage it?

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01:10:04,333 --> 01:10:06,653
Speaker 20: Yeah, well, look, yeah, you do hear about doors time.

1367
01:10:06,733 --> 01:10:10,253
Speaker 20: You hear about in top level sports people that they've

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01:10:10,333 --> 01:10:13,453
Speaker 20: done their achilles tender. And so the commonest situation is

1369
01:10:13,533 --> 01:10:16,973
Speaker 20: an act of sport, So that's things like rugby, soccer,

1370
01:10:17,053 --> 01:10:20,493
Speaker 20: and basketball. And the reason it happens is that the

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01:10:20,813 --> 01:10:25,413
Speaker 20: achilles ruptures or tears apart with forceful movements such as

1372
01:10:25,533 --> 01:10:29,213
Speaker 20: sprinting or jumping or quick stops and changes a movement,

1373
01:10:30,333 --> 01:10:32,573
Speaker 20: or the other place that occurs if you get direct

1374
01:10:32,733 --> 01:10:35,013
Speaker 20: trauma to the ankle. So you could imagine that happens

1375
01:10:35,053 --> 01:10:36,693
Speaker 20: in a rugby tackle or at the bottom of a

1376
01:10:36,733 --> 01:10:40,933
Speaker 20: ruck where it gets bashed and it can suddenly tear apart. Now,

1377
01:10:41,013 --> 01:10:43,453
Speaker 20: the other place that occurs is with older people. So

1378
01:10:43,573 --> 01:10:45,533
Speaker 20: as you get older, it tends to get a bit afraid,

1379
01:10:45,653 --> 01:10:49,493
Speaker 20: a bit weaker, and it can rupture with the slightest

1380
01:10:49,573 --> 01:10:51,973
Speaker 20: things like a slight trip on a curve or something.

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01:10:52,293 --> 01:10:54,093
Speaker 20: It can cause it to pull apart because it does

1382
01:10:54,173 --> 01:10:56,853
Speaker 20: weakend as we get older. So yeah, those are probably

1383
01:10:56,893 --> 01:10:58,653
Speaker 20: the two big places where it occurs.

1384
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Speaker 2: What are the symptoms.

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01:11:01,173 --> 01:11:04,093
Speaker 20: Yeah, so look, if it happens, you know it's happened.

1386
01:11:04,213 --> 01:11:07,853
Speaker 20: So look, it's a very, very sudden the sharp pain

1387
01:11:08,333 --> 01:11:10,813
Speaker 20: at the back of the lower leg or heel, and

1388
01:11:11,253 --> 01:11:13,853
Speaker 20: often a company by a popping or a snapping sound.

1389
01:11:13,933 --> 01:11:15,733
Speaker 20: So that's what people describe. They said, I heard this

1390
01:11:15,853 --> 01:11:19,693
Speaker 20: sort of snap that actually occurred, and you are suddenly

1391
01:11:19,773 --> 01:11:22,413
Speaker 20: unable to walk. And the critical one is you can't

1392
01:11:22,453 --> 01:11:25,653
Speaker 20: stand on tipy toes, so tiptoes you cannot do it.

1393
01:11:26,173 --> 01:11:28,893
Speaker 20: There's marks swelling at the bottom of the back of

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01:11:28,933 --> 01:11:32,693
Speaker 20: the leg, and sometimes you can actually feel if you

1395
01:11:33,013 --> 01:11:35,213
Speaker 20: polp take down the cord, you can actually feel a

1396
01:11:35,293 --> 01:11:38,613
Speaker 20: gap or an indent at where the ruptures occurred, so

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01:11:38,733 --> 01:11:41,293
Speaker 20: you can actually feel it sometimes. But the big thing is.

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Speaker 20: You can't walk on this thing, and you can't stand

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01:11:43,333 --> 01:11:44,693
Speaker 20: on tiptoes. It's just impossible.

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Speaker 21: Is it?

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01:11:45,373 --> 01:11:48,093
Speaker 2: Does it continue to be painful after the excellent incident?

1402
01:11:48,253 --> 01:11:50,733
Speaker 2: Or is it once it's erupted and popped? Is it

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01:11:50,893 --> 01:11:52,533
Speaker 2: kind of does the pain subside a bit?

1404
01:11:53,293 --> 01:11:53,333
Speaker 14: No?

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01:11:53,533 --> 01:11:55,773
Speaker 20: No, No, it's very painful and people come limping into

1406
01:11:55,813 --> 01:11:57,613
Speaker 20: the surgery until you start to get into it what's

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01:11:57,653 --> 01:12:01,493
Speaker 20: called a moon boot or definitive treatment. So no, So initially,

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01:12:01,533 --> 01:12:04,053
Speaker 20: if it does occur, get ice onto it, rest it up,

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01:12:04,173 --> 01:12:06,293
Speaker 20: don't walk on it, and start to take some pain

1410
01:12:06,453 --> 01:12:09,253
Speaker 20: relief like parasital over brief and until you can see

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01:12:09,253 --> 01:12:09,693
Speaker 20: the doctor.

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01:12:09,813 --> 01:12:12,813
Speaker 2: Okay, once you do see the doctor, what happens.

1413
01:12:13,653 --> 01:12:16,013
Speaker 20: Yes, Look, we generally examine it. We do this very

1414
01:12:16,093 --> 01:12:18,213
Speaker 20: particular test where we get you to kneel on the

1415
01:12:18,253 --> 01:12:20,933
Speaker 20: bed and we squeeze your calf muscle in and if

1416
01:12:21,013 --> 01:12:23,373
Speaker 20: the tendon is intact, we can see the foot or

1417
01:12:23,413 --> 01:12:25,733
Speaker 20: the ankle move, but if it's not, it just doesn't move,

1418
01:12:25,893 --> 01:12:28,453
Speaker 20: so we know that it's ruptured. And sometimes we feel

1419
01:12:28,493 --> 01:12:30,613
Speaker 20: down we can feel this indient. So if that happens,

1420
01:12:30,693 --> 01:12:33,333
Speaker 20: we generally get an ultrasound or an MRI to see,

1421
01:12:33,773 --> 01:12:35,893
Speaker 20: look how bad is it. Has it fully ruptured or

1422
01:12:35,973 --> 01:12:39,093
Speaker 20: partially just torn? And if we know that's the case,

1423
01:12:39,253 --> 01:12:41,973
Speaker 20: is generally two things we can do about it. Now,

1424
01:12:42,173 --> 01:12:45,093
Speaker 20: if you're older, you're not an athlete and it's not

1425
01:12:45,253 --> 01:12:47,573
Speaker 20: so time critical, we will generally put you in a

1426
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Speaker 20: what's called a moon boot, which provides some support to

1427
01:12:51,093 --> 01:12:53,413
Speaker 20: the ankle, get to start to walk around on it

1428
01:12:54,173 --> 01:12:56,173
Speaker 20: raises a heel and you'll be in that for about

1429
01:12:56,253 --> 01:12:58,733
Speaker 20: six months, so it starts to heel itself up and

1430
01:12:58,973 --> 01:13:02,733
Speaker 20: often it'll do that, so it's very good at doing that. However,

1431
01:13:02,853 --> 01:13:06,693
Speaker 20: for those younger people, especially those top level athletes, they

1432
01:13:06,773 --> 01:13:10,213
Speaker 20: end up seeing an orthopedic surgeon and within two weeks

1433
01:13:10,253 --> 01:13:12,973
Speaker 20: we'll have an operation on the tender itself so to

1434
01:13:13,053 --> 01:13:16,813
Speaker 20: try and sew it back together again. And once that's done,

1435
01:13:17,013 --> 01:13:19,773
Speaker 20: your recovery time you're probably looking at three to six

1436
01:13:19,933 --> 01:13:25,173
Speaker 20: months before you're fully recovered up about requires rehab, physio,

1437
01:13:25,493 --> 01:13:28,293
Speaker 20: quite an extensive program to get you back and running.

1438
01:13:28,373 --> 01:13:32,013
Speaker 20: So look, if it happens, it's it's not great, but

1439
01:13:32,253 --> 01:13:34,133
Speaker 20: you do get better at the end of it, but

1440
01:13:34,253 --> 01:13:34,973
Speaker 20: it takes some time.

1441
01:13:35,893 --> 01:13:38,013
Speaker 2: It's so miserable, isn't it so is there anything I

1442
01:13:38,053 --> 01:13:39,573
Speaker 2: can do just to avoid it? I mean, I just

1443
01:13:39,613 --> 01:13:40,973
Speaker 2: don't get old. I guess it's the key.

1444
01:13:41,493 --> 01:13:43,773
Speaker 20: Well, well, don't get old and don't play rugby or soccer.

1445
01:13:44,053 --> 01:13:47,613
Speaker 15: Yeah yeah, so yeah, no, look.

1446
01:13:47,693 --> 01:13:50,613
Speaker 20: Look I'm staying fit, all those things, warm ups before

1447
01:13:50,613 --> 01:13:55,173
Speaker 20: you play sport. Staying fit, you know, is really really important.

1448
01:13:55,813 --> 01:13:58,813
Speaker 20: But occasionally it's just one of those things that occurs.

1449
01:13:59,133 --> 01:14:01,533
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Hey, thank you so much, Brian. Appreciate

1450
01:14:01,533 --> 01:14:04,053
Speaker 2: your time as always, doctor Brian. Betty There, it's ten

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01:14:04,093 --> 01:14:06,173
Speaker 2: to eleven. We're in the garden next on News Dogs.

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01:14:06,213 --> 01:14:10,133
Speaker 1: He be gardening with still Sharp free autumn upgrades on

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Speaker 1: Still's best sellers.

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Speaker 2: Route Climb Past is our man in the garden. He's

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Speaker 2: with us now Counder Road.

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Speaker 6: Kyoda Jack. Do you do bulbs at all?

1457
01:14:20,373 --> 01:14:23,653
Speaker 2: I don't really do bombs. I don't do I really

1458
01:14:23,733 --> 01:14:26,573
Speaker 2: do balls, but I do. I mean, I'm I'm a

1459
01:14:26,693 --> 01:14:29,533
Speaker 2: kentab throw and through. So I do appreciate a good effodil,

1460
01:14:29,653 --> 01:14:31,733
Speaker 2: you know, Can we put it that way? Yeah?

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01:14:31,813 --> 01:14:32,613
Speaker 6: Any good tulip?

1462
01:14:32,813 --> 01:14:35,213
Speaker 14: Yeah no, I was just going to say otherwise, I'll

1463
01:14:35,293 --> 01:14:36,893
Speaker 14: just have a check to Nikola Willis.

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01:14:37,533 --> 01:14:39,173
Speaker 6: She's always on about green shoots.

1465
01:14:39,213 --> 01:14:41,853
Speaker 4: So I thought, yeah, very good.

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01:14:41,893 --> 01:14:45,333
Speaker 6: God, I can't believe that's linking English. But anyway that

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01:14:45,493 --> 01:14:46,253
Speaker 6: I can, if.

1468
01:14:46,173 --> 01:14:50,093
Speaker 2: Anyone it's you, I can. I don't. Don't make surprise,

1469
01:14:50,173 --> 01:14:52,733
Speaker 2: don't discuss it in yourself. Come on, d we know

1470
01:14:52,813 --> 01:14:53,413
Speaker 2: how to works.

1471
01:14:55,173 --> 01:14:56,973
Speaker 6: I know I know how it works.

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01:14:57,453 --> 01:14:59,853
Speaker 22: Anyway, But actually it is an idea to talk about

1473
01:14:59,893 --> 01:15:03,213
Speaker 22: this because what you're doing now with bolts like tulips now, sisters,

1474
01:15:03,293 --> 01:15:05,853
Speaker 22: croakers and all the other things they call you, they're

1475
01:15:05,853 --> 01:15:07,453
Speaker 22: all on the we so of course, but here's the

1476
01:15:07,573 --> 01:15:11,333
Speaker 22: thing you are now starting to work ahead for spring.

1477
01:15:11,533 --> 01:15:15,013
Speaker 14: Yes, yeah, you know it makes sense, say yeah, so

1478
01:15:15,013 --> 01:15:17,653
Speaker 14: it's the growth of your home literally that you're looking

1479
01:15:17,733 --> 01:15:21,773
Speaker 14: at the planet and everything. So tulip's very simple. Oh,

1480
01:15:21,853 --> 01:15:25,053
Speaker 14: by the way, good story. But that story about tulips.

1481
01:15:25,613 --> 01:15:27,453
Speaker 14: Do you remember the sixteen hundreds?

1482
01:15:28,893 --> 01:15:30,813
Speaker 2: I don't, but I know what you're referencing.

1483
01:15:33,253 --> 01:15:38,933
Speaker 14: Tulip pop cost three thousand florins. It's like three thousand.

1484
01:15:39,573 --> 01:15:42,533
Speaker 2: It was the bitcoin of the of the sixteen hundreds, right,

1485
01:15:43,613 --> 01:15:44,093
Speaker 2: it was.

1486
01:15:44,253 --> 01:15:48,733
Speaker 14: A and that's well, the yearly wages of craftsman was

1487
01:15:48,773 --> 01:15:53,373
Speaker 14: about three hundred florins a year unbelievable. Anyway, that burst

1488
01:15:53,453 --> 01:15:56,813
Speaker 14: of course after thirty seven thirty eight years anyway.

1489
01:15:56,533 --> 01:15:59,453
Speaker 6: That's that's the way. But now we can have and

1490
01:15:59,493 --> 01:16:01,133
Speaker 6: there's some really cool ones.

1491
01:16:01,373 --> 01:16:04,413
Speaker 14: By the way, those funny tulips that they were trading

1492
01:16:04,493 --> 01:16:09,213
Speaker 14: at the time were basicallyvirus ridden versions of them, and

1493
01:16:09,333 --> 01:16:11,693
Speaker 14: the viruses gain these wonderful colors.

1494
01:16:11,813 --> 01:16:14,573
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is actually quite that isn't rare?

1495
01:16:14,653 --> 01:16:18,333
Speaker 14: Yeah, okay, And to this day we still have tulips

1496
01:16:18,413 --> 01:16:21,133
Speaker 14: with some of these funny little viruses in them. So

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01:16:21,893 --> 01:16:23,853
Speaker 14: you can do anything you like with you. I just

1498
01:16:23,893 --> 01:16:26,013
Speaker 14: want to say, go and get and have a look around.

1499
01:16:26,493 --> 01:16:27,693
Speaker 14: Beautiful stuff to have.

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01:16:28,373 --> 01:16:28,933
Speaker 6: Easy to do.

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01:16:29,093 --> 01:16:31,933
Speaker 14: You work the soil twenties centimeters deep and you chuck

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01:16:31,973 --> 01:16:36,013
Speaker 14: them in because those globs of course, like well drained soils.

1503
01:16:36,093 --> 01:16:38,973
Speaker 14: You don't want them too wet because they start to rot.

1504
01:16:39,053 --> 01:16:42,813
Speaker 14: A Yeah, yeah, it's important now nice it's the same

1505
01:16:42,893 --> 01:16:45,213
Speaker 14: thing you were talking about it, especially Hagley Park, you

1506
01:16:45,293 --> 01:16:48,413
Speaker 14: know what I mean. Daffodils, The roots, by the way,

1507
01:16:48,493 --> 01:16:51,053
Speaker 14: go way down. So you prepare the soil for about

1508
01:16:51,093 --> 01:16:55,133
Speaker 14: forty centimeters deep, but there are only ten centimeters in

1509
01:16:55,213 --> 01:16:58,773
Speaker 14: terms of the depth of planting them. Full sun is

1510
01:16:58,933 --> 01:17:04,653
Speaker 14: fine crocus. Here's another one I like. Crocus is absolutely wonderful,

1511
01:17:04,733 --> 01:17:08,493
Speaker 14: beautiful smells, of course. And then there's this weird crocus

1512
01:17:08,613 --> 01:17:13,053
Speaker 14: called ceffron, which reminds me of those tubes of the

1513
01:17:13,173 --> 01:17:16,333
Speaker 14: sixteen hundreds. Because cept from of course, there's an extremely

1514
01:17:16,453 --> 01:17:20,453
Speaker 14: expensive material you can put in you in your food

1515
01:17:20,493 --> 01:17:23,813
Speaker 14: there you but because they are autumn flowers, you plant

1516
01:17:23,853 --> 01:17:26,573
Speaker 14: them later in December March. You'll be too late for that, right,

1517
01:17:26,853 --> 01:17:30,493
Speaker 14: And then loculium the snowflake. And but finally, because this

1518
01:17:30,653 --> 01:17:33,213
Speaker 14: is important, you can actually hit most of those bulbs

1519
01:17:33,293 --> 01:17:37,373
Speaker 14: in containers. And in containers they do well because you

1520
01:17:37,453 --> 01:17:41,853
Speaker 14: can totally manage the not too much or too much

1521
01:17:41,973 --> 01:17:44,173
Speaker 14: water systems in those containers.

1522
01:17:44,733 --> 01:17:46,813
Speaker 6: Beautiful to do that, mate, superb.

1523
01:17:47,133 --> 01:17:49,053
Speaker 2: I thank you very much. We'll make sure all of

1524
01:17:49,133 --> 01:17:51,853
Speaker 2: those varietals and the photos are up on the website. Hey,

1525
01:17:51,893 --> 01:17:54,453
Speaker 2: thanks for the tomato seeds they arrived this week as well.

1526
01:17:55,253 --> 01:17:56,093
Speaker 2: Really appreciate that.

1527
01:17:56,413 --> 01:17:56,813
Speaker 6: Your job.

1528
01:17:56,973 --> 01:17:59,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so don't worry. I'll do my best on

1529
01:17:59,093 --> 01:18:01,853
Speaker 2: that front. Route climb past in the garden for us.

1530
01:18:01,893 --> 01:18:04,493
Speaker 2: After leaven o'clock on News Talk, we've got new music

1531
01:18:04,573 --> 01:18:08,973
Speaker 2: from Elton John and Brandy car Lyle. Yep, Sir Elton

1532
01:18:09,053 --> 01:18:11,853
Speaker 2: might not be touring, but he is still recording music.

1533
01:18:12,133 --> 01:18:17,293
Speaker 2: Plus travel correspondent has tracked down the largest chocolate fountain

1534
01:18:17,493 --> 01:18:19,813
Speaker 2: in the world, so we'll tell you where you can

1535
01:18:19,893 --> 01:18:22,213
Speaker 2: see it as well. It's almost at end of o'clock.

1536
01:18:22,413 --> 01:18:23,653
Speaker 2: News is next on Newstorgs.

1537
01:18:23,693 --> 01:18:23,973
Speaker 6: He'd be.

1538
01:18:31,653 --> 01:18:35,373
Speaker 1: Saturday mornings with Jack Day keeping the conversation going through

1539
01:18:35,453 --> 01:18:38,653
Speaker 1: the weekend with bpure dot cott in here for high

1540
01:18:38,773 --> 01:19:28,373
Speaker 1: quality supplements used dogs bred.

1541
01:19:04,613 --> 01:19:06,333
Speaker 2: In a good morning. If you're just sitting on the radio,

1542
01:19:06,533 --> 01:19:10,333
Speaker 2: Jack Tame with you on newstalks 'db through to midday today. Well,

1543
01:19:10,373 --> 01:19:15,093
Speaker 2: it was Murphy's law, of course, an inevitable that'll teach

1544
01:19:15,133 --> 01:19:19,053
Speaker 2: you for breaking one of the golden laws of parenting.

1545
01:19:19,733 --> 01:19:22,013
Speaker 2: Never take off a nappy if you don't have a

1546
01:19:22,093 --> 01:19:26,533
Speaker 2: replacement immediately to hand, especially when your six week old

1547
01:19:26,613 --> 01:19:31,213
Speaker 2: baby has been stewing and straining and writhing in his

1548
01:19:31,413 --> 01:19:35,893
Speaker 2: cot and double especially Yeah, that's the thing, when he

1549
01:19:36,173 --> 01:19:39,973
Speaker 2: just had the live rotavirus vaccine and it's playing havoc

1550
01:19:40,093 --> 01:19:43,173
Speaker 2: with his belly. It was just as I bent his

1551
01:19:43,333 --> 01:19:46,773
Speaker 2: legs up and put a little squeeze on his stomach

1552
01:19:47,093 --> 01:19:50,533
Speaker 2: that I sensed it something in the air, a drop

1553
01:19:50,693 --> 01:19:55,693
Speaker 2: in barometric pressure, maybe a little facial expression, a little twitch.

1554
01:19:55,893 --> 01:19:58,813
Speaker 2: Perhaps it might have been two o'clock in the morning.

1555
01:19:58,933 --> 01:20:02,413
Speaker 2: But I threw myself back and across the room, out

1556
01:20:02,493 --> 01:20:04,373
Speaker 2: of the line of fire. It was kind of like

1557
01:20:04,453 --> 01:20:07,933
Speaker 2: that scene in the Matrix where time stops and Neo

1558
01:20:08,213 --> 01:20:13,733
Speaker 2: dodgers bullets, and you know in horror films when someone

1559
01:20:14,133 --> 01:20:17,493
Speaker 2: has their throat slit and the blood sprays on the wall,

1560
01:20:17,773 --> 01:20:20,573
Speaker 2: it's kind of a pattern, an arc, a kind of

1561
01:20:20,813 --> 01:20:26,213
Speaker 2: parabola of Crimson gore. Well, it was like that, except

1562
01:20:26,293 --> 01:20:30,573
Speaker 2: it was yellow, an explosion of you know what was

1563
01:20:30,613 --> 01:20:34,293
Speaker 2: in his tummy one second, and literally dripping down the

1564
01:20:34,413 --> 01:20:38,853
Speaker 2: wall the next, and the bin, and on the laundry basket,

1565
01:20:39,253 --> 01:20:43,373
Speaker 2: and on the exposed floorboards, the corner of the chunky

1566
01:20:43,613 --> 01:20:47,093
Speaker 2: walnut carpet. Somehow he got it through the crack of

1567
01:20:47,133 --> 01:20:51,293
Speaker 2: the door to my wardrobe, a patina of tiny little

1568
01:20:51,453 --> 01:20:55,893
Speaker 2: specks of yellow down on my shoes. The distance he

1569
01:20:56,013 --> 01:21:00,213
Speaker 2: covered was actually unbelievable. I pulled out a tape measure

1570
01:21:00,253 --> 01:21:03,333
Speaker 2: the next morning, just out of curiosity. From the change

1571
01:21:03,453 --> 01:21:07,573
Speaker 2: table to the wall was ninety odd scene, so twice

1572
01:21:07,653 --> 01:21:11,053
Speaker 2: his height in relative terms, It's as if I pulled,

1573
01:21:11,333 --> 01:21:15,013
Speaker 2: twisted and strained, pulled my legs up and propelled my

1574
01:21:15,253 --> 01:21:19,453
Speaker 2: last meal across three and a half meters of open territory.

1575
01:21:19,533 --> 01:21:23,893
Speaker 2: Give us world records, Give us a call. I hosed

1576
01:21:23,973 --> 01:21:27,733
Speaker 2: him down, delivered him to his mum, fetched the disinfectant,

1577
01:21:27,813 --> 01:21:32,133
Speaker 2: and started scrubbing the walls. The next morning, I put

1578
01:21:32,173 --> 01:21:34,813
Speaker 2: him on the change table once again. This time he

1579
01:21:35,013 --> 01:21:38,693
Speaker 2: wasn't squirming. This time, his tummy was a bit more settled.

1580
01:21:39,373 --> 01:21:41,973
Speaker 2: As I redressed him and pulled on his onesie, I

1581
01:21:42,133 --> 01:21:45,493
Speaker 2: sang to my son, and he stared up into my eyes.

1582
01:21:46,373 --> 01:21:52,813
Speaker 2: It's our problem, free, I sang. His face changed just

1583
01:21:53,253 --> 01:22:00,733
Speaker 2: a little as he could. Was that was that a smile? Phlasophy?

1584
01:22:03,093 --> 01:22:11,093
Speaker 2: He squealed, Hakuna Matata. His whole mouth broke out in

1585
01:22:11,213 --> 01:22:17,533
Speaker 2: a giant smile, no question, an unmistakable smile. His whole face,

1586
01:22:17,653 --> 01:22:20,973
Speaker 2: his whole body seemed to smile with him.

1587
01:22:21,733 --> 01:22:22,093
Speaker 14: Just for me.

1588
01:22:23,533 --> 01:22:27,493
Speaker 2: I felt my chest flood with endorphins. It was the

1589
01:22:27,893 --> 01:22:32,693
Speaker 2: craziest physical reaction, just this rush, this kind of sweep

1590
01:22:32,813 --> 01:22:38,333
Speaker 2: of joy and love said it all, really dripping walls.

1591
01:22:38,413 --> 01:22:43,213
Speaker 2: One day, his first smiles for Dad, the next, Welcome

1592
01:22:43,293 --> 01:22:47,333
Speaker 2: to Parenting Team. Nine two is our text number if

1593
01:22:47,333 --> 01:22:50,053
Speaker 2: you want to send us a messages. This morning, Jacket

1594
01:22:50,093 --> 01:22:52,733
Speaker 2: Newstalk said, Beat dot co dot nzet is the email address.

1595
01:22:53,373 --> 01:22:55,413
Speaker 2: Before midday, we're going to play you some of Elton

1596
01:22:55,453 --> 01:22:58,333
Speaker 2: John and Brandy Carlyle's new album. We'll have your book

1597
01:22:58,373 --> 01:23:00,573
Speaker 2: picks for this week as well. But right now, our

1598
01:23:00,733 --> 01:23:05,093
Speaker 2: sustainability commentator Kate Hall aka Ethically Kate, is with us

1599
01:23:05,133 --> 01:23:05,533
Speaker 2: this morning.

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01:23:05,653 --> 01:23:08,653
Speaker 3: Kilder, what I love that story?

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01:23:09,213 --> 01:23:14,573
Speaker 2: Thanks, well, yeah, I like half of it, all ahead.

1602
01:23:14,333 --> 01:23:16,973
Speaker 10: Of you exactly exactly. I feel more prepared.

1603
01:23:17,293 --> 01:23:21,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I have. What I have not mentioned is

1604
01:23:21,493 --> 01:23:25,573
Speaker 2: that I actually took photographic evidence of both elements, both

1605
01:23:25,613 --> 01:23:28,333
Speaker 2: parts of that story. But yeah, I've been going into

1606
01:23:28,333 --> 01:23:31,693
Speaker 2: the air brakes and showing Libby, my producer, the photographic

1607
01:23:31,733 --> 01:23:34,213
Speaker 2: evidence because I feel like when I say he managed

1608
01:23:34,253 --> 01:23:36,933
Speaker 2: to propel you know what, across like a meter of

1609
01:23:37,013 --> 01:23:40,133
Speaker 2: open territory and on the walls, that people think I'm exaggerating,

1610
01:23:40,253 --> 01:23:43,253
Speaker 2: I am not exaggerating. I am being one of the

1611
01:23:43,373 --> 01:23:44,973
Speaker 2: role Anyway, you.

1612
01:23:45,053 --> 01:23:46,013
Speaker 6: Might have to send me the pick.

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01:23:46,613 --> 01:23:46,893
Speaker 22: I don't know.

1614
01:23:46,973 --> 01:23:49,293
Speaker 2: You gotta be careful what you wish for. But like

1615
01:23:49,413 --> 01:23:52,333
Speaker 2: I say the smile and just you know, oh my gosh,

1616
01:23:52,613 --> 01:23:56,253
Speaker 2: just everything else melts away. It's amazing. Anyway, you have

1617
01:23:56,413 --> 01:23:58,373
Speaker 2: been over the last couple of months traveling around the

1618
01:23:58,453 --> 01:24:02,893
Speaker 2: country in an EV. So just I want to hear

1619
01:24:02,973 --> 01:24:04,413
Speaker 2: how it's been. I want to hear the ups and

1620
01:24:04,493 --> 01:24:06,333
Speaker 2: the downs. I want you to be totally honest about

1621
01:24:06,453 --> 01:24:10,053
Speaker 2: the limitations of Tuesday and EV for a nationwide trip.

1622
01:24:10,413 --> 01:24:12,973
Speaker 2: But just recap us. How how far have you traveled?

1623
01:24:12,973 --> 01:24:13,493
Speaker 2: Where have you been?

1624
01:24:14,853 --> 01:24:18,813
Speaker 23: So we started in Auckland on the fifth of February

1625
01:24:19,293 --> 01:24:26,653
Speaker 23: and we traveled through Hamilton, Todonga, Topaur, down to Wellington, Nelson,

1626
01:24:27,293 --> 01:24:31,773
Speaker 23: along the West coast in Graymouth, through to christ Church,

1627
01:24:32,853 --> 01:24:38,453
Speaker 23: then Queenstown, Dunedin, up past back through christ Church, picked

1628
01:24:38,533 --> 01:24:41,733
Speaker 23: in Wellington, Napier and back home.

1629
01:24:42,973 --> 01:24:45,853
Speaker 2: That's a big So that's our trip, ye What to

1630
01:24:46,013 --> 01:24:46,573
Speaker 2: me were you in?

1631
01:24:47,893 --> 01:24:50,933
Speaker 10: So for the first six weeks.

1632
01:24:50,773 --> 01:24:54,173
Speaker 23: We were in an ID five so Volkswag can lend

1633
01:24:54,253 --> 01:24:57,213
Speaker 23: us at EV's to travel for our tours, which is

1634
01:24:57,333 --> 01:25:00,133
Speaker 23: very grateful for And so yeah, there was ID five,

1635
01:25:00,213 --> 01:25:04,373
Speaker 23: which is kind of a classic, kind of more sporty car.

1636
01:25:04,613 --> 01:25:06,293
Speaker 23: And then for the last few weeks we were in

1637
01:25:06,453 --> 01:25:09,493
Speaker 23: the id Buzz, which is kind of brand new to

1638
01:25:09,613 --> 01:25:12,733
Speaker 23: New Zealand and very you know, inspired by the comb

1639
01:25:12,933 --> 01:25:13,613
Speaker 23: So that.

1640
01:25:13,693 --> 01:25:14,733
Speaker 2: Was that was pretty cool.

1641
01:25:15,373 --> 01:25:15,613
Speaker 14: Cool.

1642
01:25:15,813 --> 01:25:20,453
Speaker 2: Okay then, so I mean the number one criticism, you know,

1643
01:25:20,533 --> 01:25:22,853
Speaker 2: the number one concern that I suppose people raised when

1644
01:25:22,853 --> 01:25:25,853
Speaker 2: it comes to long, long trips in an EV is

1645
01:25:25,933 --> 01:25:28,453
Speaker 2: that you can't do it because you know, you run

1646
01:25:28,493 --> 01:25:30,253
Speaker 2: out of you run out of range, and you run

1647
01:25:30,293 --> 01:25:33,013
Speaker 2: out a battery. What was your experience with the charging

1648
01:25:33,053 --> 01:25:35,253
Speaker 2: network as it stands? Can you do a long trip

1649
01:25:35,333 --> 01:25:35,733
Speaker 2: in an EV?

1650
01:25:37,013 --> 01:25:37,813
Speaker 23: One hundred percent?

1651
01:25:37,933 --> 01:25:38,213
Speaker 5: You can?

1652
01:25:38,493 --> 01:25:41,293
Speaker 23: So this seemed honestly, it seemed easy to me this

1653
01:25:41,493 --> 01:25:44,693
Speaker 23: year because you know, in twenty twenty five, charge net

1654
01:25:44,853 --> 01:25:48,613
Speaker 23: has so many more different charging stations across the country

1655
01:25:48,693 --> 01:25:50,733
Speaker 23: that you know they're establishing new ones all the time.

1656
01:25:51,293 --> 01:25:54,813
Speaker 23: I did a similar route in twenty twenty in a

1657
01:25:55,213 --> 01:25:58,053
Speaker 23: vehicle with a range of about two hundred and twenty kilometers.

1658
01:25:58,173 --> 01:26:01,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, for six weeks, So you know that's five.

1659
01:26:00,893 --> 01:26:04,293
Speaker 23: Years ago, and that you know, like, honestly, there was

1660
01:26:04,373 --> 01:26:07,453
Speaker 23: a few different moments of range anxiety and when you're

1661
01:26:07,613 --> 01:26:09,813
Speaker 23: when you're trying to like enjoy your holiday, you know,

1662
01:26:09,893 --> 01:26:14,693
Speaker 23: I understand that I understand people's hesitations. However, I think

1663
01:26:14,773 --> 01:26:17,693
Speaker 23: we probably waited because that's also an element too, is

1664
01:26:17,933 --> 01:26:20,613
Speaker 23: if someone's just arrived and they've started to charge their

1665
01:26:20,693 --> 01:26:23,893
Speaker 23: car just before you, and you're a factored in, you know,

1666
01:26:24,053 --> 01:26:26,573
Speaker 23: in half an hour to top up your car, but

1667
01:26:26,733 --> 01:26:28,613
Speaker 23: someone just arrived, so that half an hour is going

1668
01:26:28,693 --> 01:26:32,413
Speaker 23: to turn into an hour. Then I understand that that's frustrating.

1669
01:26:32,493 --> 01:26:33,493
Speaker 23: But that only happened to.

1670
01:26:33,613 --> 01:26:37,693
Speaker 2: Us like once two months, so pretty good, Yeah.

1671
01:26:37,653 --> 01:26:41,373
Speaker 23: Exactly, So we just rock up and like we were

1672
01:26:41,453 --> 01:26:44,453
Speaker 23: hardly waiting it all. It meant that we were stopping

1673
01:26:44,493 --> 01:26:47,053
Speaker 23: at where the charges were rather than kind of the

1674
01:26:47,213 --> 01:26:50,013
Speaker 23: main spots that you'd stop when you're traveling around, So

1675
01:26:50,173 --> 01:26:53,493
Speaker 23: you get to say like cool new places and really

1676
01:26:53,613 --> 01:26:57,093
Speaker 23: kind of yeah quick little towns that little like local museums.

1677
01:26:57,653 --> 01:27:00,453
Speaker 23: I honestly think it. Yeah, it added more to the trip.

1678
01:27:00,533 --> 01:27:03,573
Speaker 23: And it kind of also feels like it encourages you

1679
01:27:03,733 --> 01:27:07,093
Speaker 23: to kind of slow down really enjoying you Zland and

1680
01:27:07,253 --> 01:27:11,053
Speaker 23: not just have that easither just stop into a petrol

1681
01:27:11,093 --> 01:27:13,573
Speaker 23: station and then continue on. You know, you're forced to

1682
01:27:13,653 --> 01:27:14,933
Speaker 23: kind of more slowly.

1683
01:27:15,093 --> 01:27:16,373
Speaker 2: I think that I think there are a couple of

1684
01:27:16,453 --> 01:27:18,853
Speaker 2: things I've observed not having done big road trips with

1685
01:27:18,893 --> 01:27:21,053
Speaker 2: an EV. But so, first of all, there are kind

1686
01:27:21,053 --> 01:27:23,413
Speaker 2: of two types of evs now, right. So you have

1687
01:27:23,493 --> 01:27:27,453
Speaker 2: the ones that are designed for everyday commuting, so they

1688
01:27:27,533 --> 01:27:30,253
Speaker 2: aren't have a massive range, they've only got maximum a

1689
01:27:30,253 --> 01:27:33,133
Speaker 2: couple of hundred kilometers maybe, but they're designed to be

1690
01:27:33,253 --> 01:27:35,693
Speaker 2: driven every day and driven in cities. And then you

1691
01:27:35,773 --> 01:27:38,573
Speaker 2: have evs that have the longer range and are more

1692
01:27:38,693 --> 01:27:41,573
Speaker 2: appropriate for the kind of adventure you've been on. And

1693
01:27:41,653 --> 01:27:44,013
Speaker 2: when you're driving one of those cars, you really want

1694
01:27:44,053 --> 01:27:47,133
Speaker 2: to be in a position whereby your trip is not

1695
01:27:47,293 --> 01:27:51,253
Speaker 2: being dictated by the absolute location of the charging stations, right,

1696
01:27:51,333 --> 01:27:53,053
Speaker 2: So you want to be like we're going here, here,

1697
01:27:53,133 --> 01:27:56,093
Speaker 2: and here, and we'll come across some charging stations on

1698
01:27:56,133 --> 01:27:58,653
Speaker 2: the way, as opposed to being like, right, we're going

1699
01:27:58,693 --> 01:28:00,493
Speaker 2: to go from this charging station and then we're gonna

1700
01:28:00,733 --> 01:28:03,133
Speaker 2: skip the charging station. And this I always think about,

1701
01:28:03,133 --> 01:28:05,253
Speaker 2: you know, like the first aviators who you know, like

1702
01:28:05,373 --> 01:28:07,973
Speaker 2: flew across the world or flew across the United States

1703
01:28:08,013 --> 01:28:10,093
Speaker 2: and had to make sixty stops and that kind of thing,

1704
01:28:10,133 --> 01:28:12,573
Speaker 2: and how you know they could fly twenty kilometers and

1705
01:28:12,613 --> 01:28:14,413
Speaker 2: then they needed to find somewhere else to land. It's

1706
01:28:14,453 --> 01:28:17,133
Speaker 2: sort of steams comparable. But I suppose, like you say,

1707
01:28:17,213 --> 01:28:22,093
Speaker 2: with the with the propensity of charging stations as they

1708
01:28:22,133 --> 01:28:24,933
Speaker 2: are now, you don't need to kind of worry about that,

1709
01:28:25,493 --> 01:28:27,653
Speaker 2: you know, as you did in the past, which is great. No,

1710
01:28:28,013 --> 01:28:29,533
Speaker 2: So how much did it cost you?

1711
01:28:31,133 --> 01:28:32,893
Speaker 23: So I've been trying to add it up and I

1712
01:28:33,013 --> 01:28:36,173
Speaker 23: don't know how exact kilometer and just you know kilometers,

1713
01:28:36,213 --> 01:28:38,173
Speaker 23: how many we covered? That would have been clear of

1714
01:28:38,253 --> 01:28:40,573
Speaker 23: me to clicked that on the car at the start

1715
01:28:40,613 --> 01:28:43,973
Speaker 23: of the trip. Anyway, it cast around eight hundred and

1716
01:28:44,013 --> 01:28:48,173
Speaker 23: fourteen dollars And that's charging at the fast charges, so

1717
01:28:49,133 --> 01:28:52,733
Speaker 23: you can, you know, plug your car overnight and yeah,

1718
01:28:52,813 --> 01:28:56,373
Speaker 23: you know, do a slow trickle. So that's like the

1719
01:28:56,773 --> 01:28:59,093
Speaker 23: that's the most you're ever going to spend on charging

1720
01:28:59,093 --> 01:29:01,693
Speaker 23: because you're at these super fast charges that you're only

1721
01:29:01,773 --> 01:29:04,533
Speaker 23: stopping for. I think the max that we stopped at

1722
01:29:04,693 --> 01:29:05,893
Speaker 23: was like forty five minutes.

1723
01:29:05,973 --> 01:29:08,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, so did you come up I reckon that's charges?

1724
01:29:08,453 --> 01:29:09,133
Speaker 2: Was that an issue?

1725
01:29:10,533 --> 01:29:13,933
Speaker 23: There was one place that had actually in Topau at

1726
01:29:13,933 --> 01:29:17,693
Speaker 23: one point there were four charges there and like a

1727
01:29:17,733 --> 01:29:19,773
Speaker 23: few of them were busy, and one of them was

1728
01:29:20,213 --> 01:29:24,893
Speaker 23: was faulty and so but in that moment like it

1729
01:29:25,493 --> 01:29:29,373
Speaker 23: because there was multiple charges there, that was fine because

1730
01:29:29,573 --> 01:29:32,013
Speaker 23: it just meant there was less capacity for people to

1731
01:29:32,133 --> 01:29:35,013
Speaker 23: charge often there. And and like you said, it's if

1732
01:29:35,013 --> 01:29:37,173
Speaker 23: you're passing through and you plan to stop at a

1733
01:29:37,253 --> 01:29:40,653
Speaker 23: charger and it's full or it's faulty, you can just

1734
01:29:40,733 --> 01:29:41,493
Speaker 23: go on to the next.

1735
01:29:41,373 --> 01:29:42,853
Speaker 10: One because it's not too far away.

1736
01:29:43,653 --> 01:29:47,413
Speaker 23: Yeah, so we were never kind of caught out or yeah,

1737
01:29:47,573 --> 01:29:48,493
Speaker 23: kind of frustrated by it.

1738
01:29:48,653 --> 01:29:51,293
Speaker 2: And how do you feel about the batteries in the

1739
01:29:51,333 --> 01:29:53,973
Speaker 2: battery debate? What happens to old batteries And.

1740
01:29:55,853 --> 01:29:57,893
Speaker 23: Yeah, so, I mean there's a lot of complications with

1741
01:29:58,293 --> 01:30:01,213
Speaker 23: the mining of them and you know, supply chain and

1742
01:30:01,293 --> 01:30:03,333
Speaker 23: where they're from, and we don't have that right. There's

1743
01:30:03,453 --> 01:30:07,173
Speaker 23: totally some unethical and unstainable things that that we need

1744
01:30:07,253 --> 01:30:09,373
Speaker 23: to figure out and we need to keep developing. But

1745
01:30:09,573 --> 01:30:12,173
Speaker 23: with the battery, if the battery is no longer suitable

1746
01:30:12,293 --> 01:30:14,333
Speaker 23: for a car, you know, especially with some of the

1747
01:30:14,693 --> 01:30:18,253
Speaker 23: old leafs and older vehicles. Now the batteries, you know,

1748
01:30:18,333 --> 01:30:20,973
Speaker 23: they may have a range of seventy kilometers which can

1749
01:30:21,253 --> 01:30:25,093
Speaker 23: get you caught out. Those can actually be used as generators.

1750
01:30:25,293 --> 01:30:28,733
Speaker 23: So like on farms or battery backups for homes and

1751
01:30:28,773 --> 01:30:31,173
Speaker 23: different things. So if they're not suitable for a car,

1752
01:30:31,253 --> 01:30:34,093
Speaker 23: they're still suitable suitable for a lot of other different uses.

1753
01:30:34,733 --> 01:30:37,333
Speaker 23: And there's different programs now where the batteries are able

1754
01:30:37,413 --> 01:30:42,253
Speaker 23: to be picked apart and the different minerals, and yeah,

1755
01:30:42,373 --> 01:30:46,173
Speaker 23: elements of them are able to be taken apart, stripped

1756
01:30:46,173 --> 01:30:50,453
Speaker 23: away from each other and used for other kind of

1757
01:30:50,693 --> 01:30:52,133
Speaker 23: means and recycles.

1758
01:30:52,413 --> 01:30:54,093
Speaker 6: So yeah, so.

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01:30:54,173 --> 01:30:56,173
Speaker 23: It's kind of I think when you're driving in an

1760
01:30:56,213 --> 01:30:59,333
Speaker 23: EV i've you know, I feel like you're kind of

1761
01:30:59,373 --> 01:31:03,413
Speaker 23: open for that critique and criticism because you know, there's

1762
01:31:03,453 --> 01:31:06,653
Speaker 23: a lot of complications around EV's. They are not the

1763
01:31:07,213 --> 01:31:09,773
Speaker 23: be all, end all, like most sustainable way to travel,

1764
01:31:09,853 --> 01:31:12,773
Speaker 23: Like we are still developing them, we're still changing things.

1765
01:31:12,893 --> 01:31:15,853
Speaker 23: But I think like the fact that we are, you know,

1766
01:31:15,893 --> 01:31:19,133
Speaker 23: we've come so far with our charging stations, with what

1767
01:31:19,293 --> 01:31:22,933
Speaker 23: evs can do, with companies being more aware of the

1768
01:31:23,373 --> 01:31:26,493
Speaker 23: ethical and sustainable side of things, Like we're learning and

1769
01:31:26,573 --> 01:31:29,253
Speaker 23: we're evolving, and it's really cool to see that we're

1770
01:31:29,293 --> 01:31:31,133
Speaker 23: not you know, we're not just like cool, this is

1771
01:31:31,213 --> 01:31:34,853
Speaker 23: our new sustainable mode of transport that we're still developing.

1772
01:31:34,893 --> 01:31:37,653
Speaker 23: The technology and it's important to have these conversations.

1773
01:31:37,733 --> 01:31:39,893
Speaker 2: Ah, so good. Hey, thanks Kay. You can find Kate

1774
01:31:39,933 --> 01:31:42,533
Speaker 2: of course by sitching on the social media platforms. She's

1775
01:31:42,573 --> 01:31:45,373
Speaker 2: nine as ethically Kate. We'll put all those little notes

1776
01:31:45,453 --> 01:31:47,093
Speaker 2: up on the news talks b website. Thank you very

1777
01:31:47,133 --> 01:31:50,853
Speaker 2: much your feedback as well. Jack, your stories are fantastic.

1778
01:31:50,933 --> 01:31:54,013
Speaker 2: Lucky little baby, says Chantel Jack. Babies love the freedom

1779
01:31:54,293 --> 01:31:56,053
Speaker 2: of no nappies. Come on, you got to know that.

1780
01:31:56,253 --> 01:31:59,373
Speaker 2: Let it all hang loose, sees muzz and Jack. Absolutely

1781
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Speaker 2: creaking story. Welcome to parent who just goes to show

1782
01:32:01,733 --> 01:32:04,773
Speaker 2: it is absolute crap one minute and pure joy the next.

1783
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Speaker 2: We have all been there, We've all got our version

1784
01:32:08,093 --> 01:32:10,613
Speaker 2: of that. So welcome to the club. Thank you very much.

1785
01:32:11,013 --> 01:32:12,973
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1786
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1787
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Speaker 2: Mike Audley is our travel correspondent. He's here this morning,

1791
01:32:26,333 --> 01:32:27,733
Speaker 2: killed her child or Jack.

1792
01:32:27,773 --> 01:32:32,093
Speaker 15: I have a question for you April Son and Suba today.

1793
01:32:32,693 --> 01:32:38,853
Speaker 2: Oh yes, how I feel about the Crusaders. Okay, Well,

1794
01:32:39,333 --> 01:32:41,893
Speaker 2: here's the thing. Last week, and I think it's very

1795
01:32:41,893 --> 01:32:45,413
Speaker 2: important when you are in the broadcasting slash punditory world

1796
01:32:45,533 --> 01:32:49,733
Speaker 2: to own your errors and mistakes. Last week I was

1797
01:32:49,773 --> 01:32:52,253
Speaker 2: speaking with Jason Pine and sort of in a very

1798
01:32:52,373 --> 01:32:59,533
Speaker 2: sort of cocksure manner, dismissively spoke about more Una Pacific. Yeah,

1799
01:32:59,653 --> 01:33:03,093
Speaker 2: and do you know what I thought last week? They

1800
01:33:03,133 --> 01:33:05,613
Speaker 2: were outstanding. I thought they were incredible. I thought they

1801
01:33:05,613 --> 01:33:08,693
Speaker 2: were deserved. And it wasn't that I was willing them

1802
01:33:08,733 --> 01:33:11,693
Speaker 2: all or supporting them necessarily, but I didn't feel poorly

1803
01:33:11,773 --> 01:33:14,893
Speaker 2: about them getting up on the Crusaders. This evening, however,

1804
01:33:15,893 --> 01:33:19,413
Speaker 2: I am cautiously optimistic. God, this afternoon, I'm cautiously optimistic

1805
01:33:19,493 --> 01:33:22,693
Speaker 2: that the Crusaders will get up against the Druer and Suver.

1806
01:33:22,853 --> 01:33:24,213
Speaker 2: But yeah, last week was a bit of a shock.

1807
01:33:24,253 --> 01:33:26,133
Speaker 2: And the good thing about Super Rugby this season is

1808
01:33:26,173 --> 01:33:29,173
Speaker 2: it does feel like so many teams could win games.

1809
01:33:29,893 --> 01:33:33,333
Speaker 15: Yes, I know, it's the surprise results which actually build

1810
01:33:33,413 --> 01:33:34,533
Speaker 15: interest in the whole competition.

1811
01:33:34,653 --> 01:33:34,813
Speaker 6: Eight.

1812
01:33:34,933 --> 01:33:37,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, it's good for the good for the competition.

1813
01:33:37,893 --> 01:33:39,333
Speaker 2: I think when you get these kind of results, so

1814
01:33:39,333 --> 01:33:41,013
Speaker 2: and I'm very much looking forward to that but from

1815
01:33:41,133 --> 01:33:45,213
Speaker 2: Suva to Switzerland and you focused on Zurich this morning.

1816
01:33:45,253 --> 01:33:47,133
Speaker 2: It's sort of Switzerland's gateway city.

1817
01:33:47,173 --> 01:33:47,373
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1818
01:33:48,013 --> 01:33:49,053
Speaker 2: Is it worth a couple of nights?

1819
01:33:49,813 --> 01:33:52,173
Speaker 15: I think so, Jack. Yeah. What I love about Zurich

1820
01:33:52,213 --> 01:33:56,573
Speaker 15: airport is it's just so blissfully stress free. So I

1821
01:33:56,813 --> 01:33:59,573
Speaker 15: was through all the bags and border control faith within

1822
01:33:59,773 --> 01:34:03,693
Speaker 15: fifteen minutes. The train to the city center just a

1823
01:34:03,853 --> 01:34:09,213
Speaker 15: ten minute ride. So it's such a great introduction to Europe,

1824
01:34:09,333 --> 01:34:11,453
Speaker 15: you know, to shake off the jet lag while you're

1825
01:34:11,533 --> 01:34:14,693
Speaker 15: soaking up the lake and the mountains you're looking for

1826
01:34:14,893 --> 01:34:17,973
Speaker 15: hiding in those twisting lanes of the medieval old town

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01:34:18,453 --> 01:34:21,933
Speaker 15: and happily nibbling on Swiss goodies. Great way to start

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01:34:21,973 --> 01:34:22,333
Speaker 15: a trip.

1829
01:34:22,573 --> 01:34:25,813
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of Swiss goodies, it's in the German speaking

1830
01:34:25,893 --> 01:34:28,213
Speaker 2: side of Switzerland, right. Does that mean that the sausage

1831
01:34:28,653 --> 01:34:31,253
Speaker 2: is a bit of a culinary draw It.

1832
01:34:31,413 --> 01:34:35,973
Speaker 15: Is wildly popular. Yeah. The street food tradition of Vorst

1833
01:34:36,853 --> 01:34:40,573
Speaker 15: is just like staple diet hera a trip particularly for lunch.

1834
01:34:41,173 --> 01:34:44,893
Speaker 15: So in the old town I went to this fantastic

1835
01:34:45,093 --> 01:34:48,973
Speaker 15: place called Borsteria by Hymns and Cordons, and it's a

1836
01:34:49,093 --> 01:34:53,613
Speaker 15: part butcher shop and part deli, but they do super cheap,

1837
01:34:54,253 --> 01:34:57,653
Speaker 15: super spicy brut boss in a fluffy bun, really good,

1838
01:34:58,053 --> 01:35:01,253
Speaker 15: cheap and easy takeaways. The other thing I noticed about

1839
01:35:01,373 --> 01:35:05,253
Speaker 15: Zurich is they really like white sausage, which they call

1840
01:35:05,493 --> 01:35:08,893
Speaker 15: vice VORs, and they serve it with a sweet mustard

1841
01:35:08,973 --> 01:35:12,413
Speaker 15: that is so good. And because Zurich is a very

1842
01:35:12,773 --> 01:35:17,173
Speaker 15: walkable city, I just think saucy has become your best friend.

1843
01:35:17,373 --> 01:35:20,173
Speaker 15: You just snack away on those saucis. They'll keep you

1844
01:35:20,293 --> 01:35:20,893
Speaker 15: going all day.

1845
01:35:21,693 --> 01:35:23,933
Speaker 2: Nit I mentioned chocolate in Easter.

1846
01:35:25,053 --> 01:35:29,173
Speaker 15: Oh my goodness. Yeah, take a stroll along barnhorf Strasser,

1847
01:35:29,573 --> 01:35:32,733
Speaker 15: which is the swanky shopping street, and you've got to

1848
01:35:32,813 --> 01:35:39,813
Speaker 15: pop into Cafe Springly, which is royalty in Zurich. They

1849
01:35:39,853 --> 01:35:44,253
Speaker 15: are handcrafted chocolates. They are just exquisite works of art.

1850
01:35:44,333 --> 01:35:47,093
Speaker 15: And of course the Easter chocolate displays at this time

1851
01:35:47,173 --> 01:35:51,773
Speaker 15: of yeah, jack, next level, unbelievable. It's like a bespoke

1852
01:35:51,973 --> 01:35:55,813
Speaker 15: art gallery in chocolate. And Zurich is also home to

1853
01:35:56,773 --> 01:36:01,093
Speaker 15: LINT and you can visit their Home of Chocolate Interactive Museum,

1854
01:36:01,653 --> 01:36:04,373
Speaker 15: which does a really good job actually just whipping you

1855
01:36:04,453 --> 01:36:07,413
Speaker 15: through the whole story of Swiss chocolate making. You can

1856
01:36:07,573 --> 01:36:11,133
Speaker 15: graze quite generously on the white and milk and dark chocolates,

1857
01:36:11,493 --> 01:36:15,133
Speaker 15: and best of all, the world's largest chocolate fountain, which

1858
01:36:15,533 --> 01:36:19,893
Speaker 15: Gusha's thirty feet high. I actually went standing below it deck.

1859
01:36:20,213 --> 01:36:23,533
Speaker 15: I had visions of Augustus Glue. I was going to say, yeah,

1860
01:36:23,773 --> 01:36:24,493
Speaker 15: the fountains.

1861
01:36:25,933 --> 01:36:28,573
Speaker 2: It does feel very wonkery, doesn't it.

1862
01:36:28,893 --> 01:36:29,133
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1863
01:36:30,413 --> 01:36:32,813
Speaker 2: Okay, So when I think of Switzerland, yes, I think

1864
01:36:32,813 --> 01:36:35,053
Speaker 2: of chocolate, but I also think of FIFA. Is the

1865
01:36:35,173 --> 01:36:36,973
Speaker 2: FIFA museum with a visit.

1866
01:36:37,773 --> 01:36:42,773
Speaker 15: It is funny story. FIFA only opens this museum about

1867
01:36:42,853 --> 01:36:45,733
Speaker 15: nine years ago, and it was because they got fed

1868
01:36:45,853 --> 01:36:50,213
Speaker 15: up with pesky football fans like Jack Tame loitering in

1869
01:36:50,253 --> 01:36:54,533
Speaker 15: the lobby of the FIFA World headquarters. So they opened

1870
01:36:54,613 --> 01:36:57,173
Speaker 15: up a museum and they've actually done a really good job.

1871
01:36:57,573 --> 01:37:00,453
Speaker 15: The original FIFA World Cup trophy is there, so that's

1872
01:37:00,493 --> 01:37:03,893
Speaker 15: the one that was permanently awarded to Brazil after they

1873
01:37:03,973 --> 01:37:06,053
Speaker 15: won the Cup for the third time in nineteen seventy.

1874
01:37:07,253 --> 01:37:11,413
Speaker 15: They've got a replica of the current trophy, which contains

1875
01:37:11,653 --> 01:37:17,053
Speaker 15: five kilograms of pure gold. It's estimated values apparently thirty

1876
01:37:17,333 --> 01:37:23,613
Speaker 15: five million New Zealand dollars had a sane I've done

1877
01:37:23,653 --> 01:37:26,013
Speaker 15: a really good job with the interactive stuff. So they've

1878
01:37:26,053 --> 01:37:29,573
Speaker 15: got this games gallery and I can only describe it

1879
01:37:29,653 --> 01:37:32,973
Speaker 15: sort of like a gigantic pinball machine which you find

1880
01:37:33,053 --> 01:37:36,053
Speaker 15: yourself in the middle of and you have to test

1881
01:37:36,853 --> 01:37:39,413
Speaker 15: your kicking skills. But it's like a pinball machine the

1882
01:37:39,453 --> 01:37:42,853
Speaker 15: way it works. It's so cool. But obviously with all

1883
01:37:42,933 --> 01:37:46,333
Speaker 15: whites booking their place at the next World Cup, yeah,

1884
01:37:46,413 --> 01:37:49,293
Speaker 15: this museum is definitely something to add to your checklist.

1885
01:37:49,693 --> 01:37:53,733
Speaker 2: What is behind all the buzz in Zurich West.

1886
01:37:54,653 --> 01:37:59,413
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's a really interesting contrast to Old world Zurich.

1887
01:37:59,613 --> 01:38:04,573
Speaker 15: So Zurich West was once a very scruffy industrial district

1888
01:38:04,933 --> 01:38:08,453
Speaker 15: and it's just been transformed. So you've got old factories

1889
01:38:08,533 --> 01:38:13,533
Speaker 15: that have been repurposed as theaters, shipyards and their art galleries.

1890
01:38:13,613 --> 01:38:18,093
Speaker 15: In fact, the old viaduct, the old railway viaduct has

1891
01:38:18,173 --> 01:38:22,253
Speaker 15: now got art spaces housed inside the arches of the viaduct,

1892
01:38:22,573 --> 01:38:25,173
Speaker 15: which is pretty trippy to walk along. Best of all,

1893
01:38:25,293 --> 01:38:27,973
Speaker 15: Prime Tower is here, So this is a thirty five

1894
01:38:28,053 --> 01:38:31,693
Speaker 15: story skyscraper, Switzerland's tallest, and that just gives you the

1895
01:38:31,893 --> 01:38:36,853
Speaker 15: most awesome treat across Zurich's rooftops. The Lake, the snow

1896
01:38:36,933 --> 01:38:39,813
Speaker 15: coated peaks beyond. So yeah, take it all and over

1897
01:38:39,813 --> 01:38:42,333
Speaker 15: a drink or two at Clouds Bards.

1898
01:38:42,733 --> 01:38:42,893
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1899
01:38:43,013 --> 01:38:45,613
Speaker 2: They've got some really sort of quirky festivals too, don't they.

1900
01:38:46,453 --> 01:38:46,733
Speaker 4: They do.

1901
01:38:47,093 --> 01:38:50,493
Speaker 15: I think it's that German side to them wed humor.

1902
01:38:52,133 --> 01:38:55,093
Speaker 15: First of all, in August they have this massive street parade,

1903
01:38:55,133 --> 01:38:58,733
Speaker 15: which is considered Europe's biggest peace celebration, so it's a

1904
01:38:58,853 --> 01:39:02,653
Speaker 15: real hippie fest. Millions go to it. But I'm actually

1905
01:39:03,053 --> 01:39:05,693
Speaker 15: a little bit disappointed. I'm not going to be in

1906
01:39:05,813 --> 01:39:08,053
Speaker 15: Zurich at the end of April because in a couple

1907
01:39:08,093 --> 01:39:10,853
Speaker 15: of weeks time, the whole city grinds to a halt

1908
01:39:11,253 --> 01:39:17,533
Speaker 15: for this weird ritual they call sex Sluten and it

1909
01:39:17,813 --> 01:39:21,253
Speaker 15: looks like ground Hog Day in the States. So it

1910
01:39:21,413 --> 01:39:26,813
Speaker 15: involves see sitting on fire a giant straw snowman who's

1911
01:39:26,893 --> 01:39:29,973
Speaker 15: called the boog, and the time it takes for the

1912
01:39:30,053 --> 01:39:34,933
Speaker 15: boob's head to explode it indicates whether it's going to

1913
01:39:35,013 --> 01:39:37,533
Speaker 15: be a good summer. Apparently the word is they're in

1914
01:39:37,693 --> 01:39:38,653
Speaker 15: for a long, warm summer.

1915
01:39:38,773 --> 01:39:38,933
Speaker 4: Jack.

1916
01:39:39,133 --> 01:39:44,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, my goodness, that's quirky to say the least. Hey,

1917
01:39:44,373 --> 01:39:46,493
Speaker 2: thank you so much, Mike, really appreciate that. We will

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Speaker 2: make sure all of your tips for a stopover in

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Speaker 2: Zurich are up on the Newstalk's EDB website. Travel safe

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Speaker 2: and catch you soon.

1921
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Speaker 15: Thank you Jack.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack team

1923
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Speaker 1: on Newstalks EDB.

1924
01:40:18,693 --> 01:40:22,253
Speaker 2: That is Dua Lipa of course. So she performed two

1925
01:40:22,533 --> 01:40:25,733
Speaker 2: sold out shows at Auckland Spark Arena this week, wrapping

1926
01:40:25,813 --> 01:40:28,253
Speaker 2: up her New Zealand tour, and the crowd last night

1927
01:40:28,293 --> 01:40:32,253
Speaker 2: were treated to a special surprise appearance by Neil finn

1928
01:40:32,773 --> 01:40:35,133
Speaker 2: Ah which I've been there for that so Neil and

1929
01:40:35,613 --> 01:40:37,853
Speaker 2: Dua Lipa saying don't dream it's over. That would have

1930
01:40:37,893 --> 01:40:41,093
Speaker 2: been a really special experience. Right now, it's twenty six

1931
01:40:41,173 --> 01:40:43,613
Speaker 2: minutes to twelve on News Talks. He'd be Jason Pies

1932
01:40:43,653 --> 01:40:46,053
Speaker 2: behind the mic for a weekend sport after the midday news.

1933
01:40:46,093 --> 01:40:49,333
Speaker 2: Good morning sir, massive weekend to sport. Let's start off

1934
01:40:49,333 --> 01:40:52,333
Speaker 2: with Lim Mawson. All eyes back on him on the

1935
01:40:52,413 --> 01:40:55,373
Speaker 2: track in Japan. Today was another practice today or is

1936
01:40:55,373 --> 01:40:55,893
Speaker 2: it qualifying?

1937
01:40:55,933 --> 01:40:56,173
Speaker 6: Okay?

1938
01:40:57,093 --> 01:40:59,453
Speaker 2: One more practicing qualifying ride okay? Yeah, So I mean

1939
01:40:59,493 --> 01:41:03,373
Speaker 2: things looked a bit more stable yesterday. Good reasons for

1940
01:41:03,493 --> 01:41:04,653
Speaker 2: optimism perhaps.

1941
01:41:04,413 --> 01:41:06,093
Speaker 24: I think so, Yeah, And I wonder whether it's the

1942
01:41:06,133 --> 01:41:08,813
Speaker 24: fact that, you know, the harsh glare of the top

1943
01:41:08,893 --> 01:41:11,493
Speaker 24: team has come off yea. And while he's not an

1944
01:41:11,573 --> 01:41:13,693
Speaker 24: as fast a car, you wouldn't have known it because

1945
01:41:13,733 --> 01:41:16,333
Speaker 24: he's practiced faster than both.

1946
01:41:16,173 --> 01:41:17,453
Speaker 2: Of the Red Bull drivers.

1947
01:41:17,573 --> 01:41:22,413
Speaker 24: Yes, with a big caveat there. Yes, nonetheless, but that's

1948
01:41:22,453 --> 01:41:24,653
Speaker 24: what it says on the sheets. Yes, Now he'll practice

1949
01:41:24,653 --> 01:41:27,373
Speaker 24: again today and then qualifying tonight will be I think

1950
01:41:27,493 --> 01:41:29,853
Speaker 24: that'll give us a real indication of where he is

1951
01:41:30,293 --> 01:41:34,533
Speaker 24: relative to Verstappen and to Yuki Sonoda. You know, I

1952
01:41:34,573 --> 01:41:37,813
Speaker 24: think we all just want him to drive unincumbered, don't

1953
01:41:37,853 --> 01:41:39,813
Speaker 24: we to be the driver that he can be and

1954
01:41:40,133 --> 01:41:42,093
Speaker 24: on a track he knows well. So I get the

1955
01:41:42,133 --> 01:41:45,013
Speaker 24: feeling it'll be, you know, well, certainly it'll be a

1956
01:41:45,053 --> 01:41:46,533
Speaker 24: more positive weekend, you'd have to think.

1957
01:41:46,693 --> 01:41:49,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, black Cats wrapping up there season this afternoon. We've

1958
01:41:49,573 --> 01:41:52,333
Speaker 2: got Super Rugby as well, the Blues Canes this evening.

1959
01:41:52,373 --> 01:41:55,093
Speaker 2: After that Chiefs performance last night and the wets down

1960
01:41:55,173 --> 01:41:57,413
Speaker 2: in Hamilton. Yeah, Jeep was jeep as it was just

1961
01:41:57,453 --> 01:42:00,093
Speaker 2: absolutely hosing down, wasn't it. And quite late in the

1962
01:42:00,133 --> 01:42:01,773
Speaker 2: game though, were what thirteen ten a head on the

1963
01:42:01,853 --> 01:42:03,093
Speaker 2: red side, that's been good this year.

1964
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Speaker 24: We're joint or certainly the same win Ostre will go

1965
01:42:07,053 --> 01:42:10,053
Speaker 24: into that game. But top of the table clash, yeah, absolutely.

1966
01:42:10,093 --> 01:42:13,333
Speaker 24: A couple of late tries though from Tokyaho and Xavier

1967
01:42:13,413 --> 01:42:15,933
Speaker 24: rowe are getting them home, so Chiefs remain top.

1968
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

1969
01:42:16,373 --> 01:42:20,053
Speaker 24: A quadrupleheader if you're interested, from from around two thirty

1970
01:42:20,093 --> 01:42:22,933
Speaker 24: this afternoon, with four games back to back to the back.

1971
01:42:23,733 --> 01:42:25,693
Speaker 24: So there's there's a lot of rugby, there's a there's

1972
01:42:25,693 --> 01:42:27,853
Speaker 24: an Auckland FC game and amongst all of that as well,

1973
01:42:27,893 --> 01:42:30,413
Speaker 24: plus the Formula one and the cricket to keep eyes on.

1974
01:42:30,573 --> 01:42:33,413
Speaker 24: So yeah, the codes are alliding as always about this

1975
01:42:33,493 --> 01:42:33,933
Speaker 24: time of the year.

1976
01:42:33,973 --> 01:42:36,893
Speaker 2: Jack Yeah, yeah, speaking of a league this afternoon as well.

1977
01:42:36,933 --> 01:42:40,653
Speaker 2: Of course Auckland FC win. We're going to the maths.

1978
01:42:41,173 --> 01:42:43,053
Speaker 2: At what point can we say they've sign up the

1979
01:42:43,133 --> 01:42:43,853
Speaker 2: regular season.

1980
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Speaker 24: Well, mathematically they could win it as early as next weekend. Okay,

1981
01:42:47,373 --> 01:42:50,333
Speaker 24: if they win. If they win today and win next

1982
01:42:50,413 --> 01:42:54,733
Speaker 24: week and their closest challenges Western United drop three points

1983
01:42:54,773 --> 01:42:58,853
Speaker 24: across their next two games, so the earliest possible time

1984
01:42:59,053 --> 01:43:00,373
Speaker 24: that they could win it as next.

1985
01:43:00,293 --> 01:43:02,493
Speaker 2: Week is there is there an in and league we

1986
01:43:02,533 --> 01:43:05,013
Speaker 2: say it's the Minor Premiers. Does that what we're saying

1987
01:43:05,013 --> 01:43:06,093
Speaker 2: in the Alien yea that Yeah.

1988
01:43:06,573 --> 01:43:07,933
Speaker 24: The end of the Minor Premier is they win the

1989
01:43:08,013 --> 01:43:11,093
Speaker 24: Premier's Plate. That's the regular season silvo were then they

1990
01:43:11,133 --> 01:43:11,933
Speaker 24: go into the knockouts.

1991
01:43:11,933 --> 01:43:12,453
Speaker 2: But which is when?

1992
01:43:12,933 --> 01:43:13,253
Speaker 3: Of course?

1993
01:43:13,333 --> 01:43:15,973
Speaker 24: Yeah, but finishing top the big advantages. If you finish

1994
01:43:16,013 --> 01:43:17,853
Speaker 24: top and make the Grand Final, you host the Grand Final.

1995
01:43:17,973 --> 01:43:19,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, true, yeah, of course, which is the huge advantage.

1996
01:43:20,613 --> 01:43:23,573
Speaker 2: Speaking of New Zealand football, Jake Leson, this is an

1997
01:43:23,573 --> 01:43:25,133
Speaker 2: amazing story this week. You're speaking with.

1998
01:43:25,173 --> 01:43:27,653
Speaker 24: Him, so yeah, got him on straight after mid day today. Yeah,

1999
01:43:27,973 --> 01:43:30,573
Speaker 24: what a what a journey to justice has been for him.

2000
01:43:31,693 --> 01:43:34,493
Speaker 24: You know, he's been awarded thirty four point seven million

2001
01:43:34,653 --> 01:43:38,013
Speaker 24: New Zealand dollars and damages. Medical malpractice by a former

2002
01:43:38,093 --> 01:43:41,133
Speaker 24: team doctor at Portland Timbers basically led to the end

2003
01:43:41,173 --> 01:43:45,453
Speaker 24: of his career prematurely, well prematurely an unsterilized plate left

2004
01:43:45,573 --> 01:43:48,973
Speaker 24: in his leg during a routine operation for stress fractures

2005
01:43:48,973 --> 01:43:54,373
Speaker 24: and it caused multiple surgeries, infections, serious medical conditions and

2006
01:43:55,053 --> 01:43:58,093
Speaker 24: his early retirement. So yeah, Jake Leson whether us after

2007
01:43:58,133 --> 01:44:00,213
Speaker 24: midday to tell what is a harrowing but I think

2008
01:44:00,253 --> 01:44:01,653
Speaker 24: in some ways uplifting story.

2009
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Speaker 2: As well, and an important story. Yeah, hey, thank you

2010
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Speaker 2: very much, sir, Thanks for to all that sport the South.

2011
01:44:06,413 --> 01:44:08,533
Speaker 2: The new Jason Pine will be with us for weekend

2012
01:44:08,573 --> 01:44:11,053
Speaker 2: Sport right after the twelve Colock News before midday. We've

2013
01:44:11,053 --> 01:44:13,893
Speaker 2: got that new music from Alton John and Brandy Carlisle

2014
01:44:13,973 --> 01:44:16,493
Speaker 2: that we will share with you. Next up, your book

2015
01:44:16,573 --> 01:44:17,613
Speaker 2: picks for this weekend.

2016
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Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

2017
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Speaker 1: powered by Newstalk Z'B.

2018
01:44:25,773 --> 01:44:28,813
Speaker 2: Twenty to twelve on newstalks 'DB. Kathin rains as our

2019
01:44:28,853 --> 01:44:31,653
Speaker 2: book reviewer on Saturday mornings. She's got two reads for

2020
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Speaker 2: us this weekend. Hey, Catherine, morning Jack. Okay, let's begin

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Speaker 2: with a Sea of Unspoken Things by Adrian Young.

2022
01:44:38,653 --> 01:44:41,333
Speaker 21: So this's a set Primary is very small town in

2023
01:44:41,373 --> 01:44:43,613
Speaker 21: the US, and you get this kind of airy feeling

2024
01:44:43,733 --> 01:44:46,013
Speaker 21: right from the start, and it cents it on this

2025
01:44:46,173 --> 01:44:49,693
Speaker 21: character called James and her twin brother Johnny, and they're

2026
01:44:49,853 --> 01:44:53,373
Speaker 21: really different people. James is always there to clean up

2027
01:44:53,373 --> 01:44:57,653
Speaker 21: her brother's mess and take the blame for his chaos. However,

2028
01:44:58,293 --> 01:45:00,293
Speaker 21: you always jump to that you do jump into the

2029
01:45:00,333 --> 01:45:03,613
Speaker 21: future and she's started life again after these tragic events

2030
01:45:03,653 --> 01:45:06,853
Speaker 21: have actually taken Johnny's life, and she's living in Sam Francisco.

2031
01:45:07,013 --> 01:45:10,333
Speaker 21: She left to pursue some artistic things, but she'd left

2032
01:45:10,413 --> 01:45:12,733
Speaker 21: not only kind of Johnny behind at the Star and

2033
01:45:12,813 --> 01:45:16,373
Speaker 21: her high school boyfriend, Micah, And so two decades later,

2034
01:45:16,613 --> 01:45:20,573
Speaker 21: she's back and bringing back her brother's ashes and focusing,

2035
01:45:20,853 --> 01:45:22,933
Speaker 21: you know, like on this belief that Johnny's death was

2036
01:45:23,013 --> 01:45:25,973
Speaker 21: in an accident, even though everybody keeps telling her that

2037
01:45:26,053 --> 01:45:28,733
Speaker 21: it was, and she really doesn't believe it. So she

2038
01:45:28,853 --> 01:45:31,693
Speaker 21: starts to uncover their secrets hidden in her hometown and

2039
01:45:31,773 --> 01:45:34,213
Speaker 21: connections to her brother, and of course Micah, who she'd

2040
01:45:34,293 --> 01:45:37,093
Speaker 21: left behind her was very close to her brother as well,

2041
01:45:37,653 --> 01:45:40,293
Speaker 21: and there's this touch of magical realism element, and they're

2042
01:45:40,293 --> 01:45:43,973
Speaker 21: almost the connection between two twins really, but it feels

2043
01:45:44,053 --> 01:45:46,693
Speaker 21: quite thriller like, and it's told all the time from

2044
01:45:46,813 --> 01:45:49,573
Speaker 21: Jamie's point of view, and she has lots of questions

2045
01:45:49,653 --> 01:45:51,973
Speaker 21: and confusion about her past and trying to understand her

2046
01:45:52,013 --> 01:45:55,653
Speaker 21: brother's motivation, and you get this great tension and airy

2047
01:45:55,773 --> 01:45:58,773
Speaker 21: connection just a little bit haunting as you're kind of

2048
01:45:58,853 --> 01:46:01,013
Speaker 21: reading it, and the backstory and trying to work out

2049
01:46:01,173 --> 01:46:04,453
Speaker 21: how these characters are connected and how everybody fits in together.

2050
01:46:04,813 --> 01:46:07,973
Speaker 2: Nice Okay, sounds very intrigued. That's a sea of unspoken

2051
01:46:08,053 --> 01:46:10,933
Speaker 2: things by Adrian Young. You've also read Dream State by

2052
01:46:11,093 --> 01:46:11,653
Speaker 2: Eric Pushna.

2053
01:46:12,373 --> 01:46:15,573
Speaker 21: So this is set in Montana and Los Angeles, and

2054
01:46:15,693 --> 01:46:18,813
Speaker 21: it follows three people and the later their children and

2055
01:46:18,893 --> 01:46:22,333
Speaker 21: spans across about fifty years. And it's a very character

2056
01:46:22,413 --> 01:46:25,333
Speaker 21: driven novel and it rarely explores the life of these

2057
01:46:25,413 --> 01:46:28,613
Speaker 21: three characters and the significant others. And so the story

2058
01:46:28,693 --> 01:46:32,013
Speaker 21: begins in Salish, Montana, where twenty seven year old Ceci

2059
01:46:32,133 --> 01:46:34,773
Speaker 21: is preparing for her wedding to Charlie at his childhood home,

2060
01:46:35,253 --> 01:46:37,493
Speaker 21: and Charlie is a surgeon working in Los Angeles, and

2061
01:46:37,573 --> 01:46:39,973
Speaker 21: he asks his best friend Garrett not only to officiate

2062
01:46:40,053 --> 01:46:43,133
Speaker 21: their wedding but also look after Ceci in his absence,

2063
01:46:43,373 --> 01:46:47,133
Speaker 21: and so he yet to almost examine these almost mundane

2064
01:46:47,213 --> 01:46:50,653
Speaker 21: events that make up their experiences with friendship and parihood

2065
01:46:50,733 --> 01:46:53,533
Speaker 21: and marriage and things that might seem ordinary. But there's

2066
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Speaker 21: a whole lot of these complex and deeply ford characters,

2067
01:46:56,733 --> 01:47:00,413
Speaker 21: and those imperfections make it really interesting. And the author

2068
01:47:00,493 --> 01:47:04,893
Speaker 21: has this ability to capture these quiet moments of emotions

2069
01:47:04,973 --> 01:47:08,093
Speaker 21: and turning these every day into actions into something much more.

2070
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Speaker 21: And because the pacing of the novel is quite slow,

2071
01:47:10,733 --> 01:47:13,613
Speaker 21: you can immerse yourself in these these inner lives and

2072
01:47:13,653 --> 01:47:16,253
Speaker 21: the twists and turns, and those human relationships and the

2073
01:47:16,293 --> 01:47:18,813
Speaker 21: mistakes that they've made in the past and that repeating

2074
01:47:18,853 --> 01:47:21,093
Speaker 21: of the mistakes. And there's also interesting a bit of

2075
01:47:21,133 --> 01:47:24,013
Speaker 21: an environmental aspect to the narrative, as these characters kind

2076
01:47:24,013 --> 01:47:27,213
Speaker 21: of transformed by age. You see how Montana and Los

2077
01:47:27,253 --> 01:47:30,373
Speaker 21: Angeles have been transformed by climate change, and you know

2078
01:47:30,573 --> 01:47:33,373
Speaker 21: of this natural extension of almost half a century spent

2079
01:47:33,453 --> 01:47:35,693
Speaker 21: in the worlds of Montana and the changes that they've seen.

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Speaker 10: But really at the heart.

2081
01:47:37,213 --> 01:47:38,293
Speaker 4: Of this novel is this.

2082
01:47:39,773 --> 01:47:43,613
Speaker 21: Connection and this complex emotions that people have between them,

2083
01:47:43,653 --> 01:47:45,893
Speaker 21: and it us with you really long after you've turned

2084
01:47:46,013 --> 01:47:48,533
Speaker 21: the final page. And it's really interesting the way these

2085
01:47:48,573 --> 01:47:51,373
Speaker 21: three lives kind of intersect and the change that happens

2086
01:47:51,493 --> 01:47:53,533
Speaker 21: right at the beginning of the novel, which talk about it,

2087
01:47:53,573 --> 01:47:56,573
Speaker 21: I'll give it all away, but is really interesting about

2088
01:47:56,573 --> 01:47:58,613
Speaker 21: how the dynamics change between the three of them and

2089
01:47:58,773 --> 01:48:00,573
Speaker 21: how their lives intersect and intertwine.

2090
01:48:00,693 --> 01:48:03,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, cool, okay cool. That's a dream State by your

2091
01:48:03,333 --> 01:48:06,213
Speaker 2: Pushnim I See You of Unspoken Things by Adrian You

2092
01:48:06,533 --> 01:48:08,693
Speaker 2: was Catherine's first book, and of course both of those

2093
01:48:08,733 --> 01:48:10,853
Speaker 2: will be up at News Talks, B dot co dot

2094
01:48:10,933 --> 01:48:14,533
Speaker 2: Inzi Ford Slash Jack new music from Elton John and

2095
01:48:14,693 --> 01:48:16,133
Speaker 2: Brandy Carlisle for you.

2096
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Speaker 1: Next, giving you the inside scoop on All you Need

2097
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Speaker 1: to Us Saturday mornings for Jacktame and bpure dot co

2098
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Speaker 1: dot Inzi for high quality supplements, Use Talks when.

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Speaker 14: Done.

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Speaker 2: That's Who Believes An Angels by Elton John and Brandy Carlyle.

2101
01:49:09,973 --> 01:49:12,253
Speaker 2: It's the name of the album that they've just released

2102
01:49:12,293 --> 01:49:14,573
Speaker 2: as well. Of course, Sir Elton has stopped touring, but

2103
01:49:14,613 --> 01:49:17,053
Speaker 2: he's still recording and still Cliver in our music reviewer

2104
01:49:17,733 --> 01:49:20,933
Speaker 2: is still listening to Sir Elton as he belts them

2105
01:49:20,973 --> 01:49:22,973
Speaker 2: out like the beast of them? How are you Stelle?

2106
01:49:23,613 --> 01:49:25,253
Speaker 25: Yeah, I'm doing good And that is one of those

2107
01:49:25,293 --> 01:49:26,813
Speaker 25: stadium fellas that song, isn't it.

2108
01:49:26,973 --> 01:49:27,173
Speaker 22: Yeah?

2109
01:49:27,333 --> 01:49:29,693
Speaker 25: You can just imagine everyone waving their lights in the

2110
01:49:29,733 --> 01:49:34,493
Speaker 25: air having a good sing along. A couple of months ago,

2111
01:49:34,693 --> 01:49:38,093
Speaker 25: I saw the teaser trailer video for this album and

2112
01:49:38,213 --> 01:49:39,893
Speaker 25: I was like, what is this going to be because

2113
01:49:39,893 --> 01:49:43,293
Speaker 25: it's a clip of Elton John losing his marbles like

2114
01:49:43,453 --> 01:49:45,493
Speaker 25: he is just throwing his toys in the studio.

2115
01:49:45,893 --> 01:49:47,493
Speaker 10: Heavenless massive tentrum.

2116
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Speaker 25: I'm like, oh my god, how did Brandy Carlile like

2117
01:49:51,693 --> 01:49:53,853
Speaker 25: go in a studio and record an album? Like what

2118
01:49:54,013 --> 01:49:57,893
Speaker 25: a great little teaser to be Like, yeah, come of

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01:49:57,973 --> 01:50:00,413
Speaker 25: this album like so clever because the bit that they've

2120
01:50:00,493 --> 01:50:03,573
Speaker 25: done alongside the album as they've also done a thirty

2121
01:50:03,613 --> 01:50:06,733
Speaker 25: minute doco behind the scenes of putting this album together. Yeah,

2122
01:50:07,013 --> 01:50:09,573
Speaker 25: so that comes out later on today. It's the first

2123
01:50:09,613 --> 01:50:13,973
Speaker 25: time Elton John's actually let anybody film the writing album process,

2124
01:50:15,173 --> 01:50:17,493
Speaker 25: and so you know, he has set himself. There's some

2125
01:50:17,533 --> 01:50:20,653
Speaker 25: stuff that he's quite embarrassed about, and he was in

2126
01:50:20,693 --> 01:50:23,733
Speaker 25: a dark place. He'd finished his tour, he'd gone out

2127
01:50:23,773 --> 01:50:26,133
Speaker 25: on this massive high and he was kind of tired

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Speaker 25: and then got into the studio. There's twenty days they'd

2129
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Speaker 25: blocked out for him and Brenda Carlisle to come together

2130
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Speaker 25: and write this album, and they went in with nothing

2131
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Speaker 25: and I think he just, you know, he started off

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Speaker 25: kind of not on the right place and the head space,

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Speaker 25: which is a pretty honest thing to say, right when

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Speaker 25: you've had a however many decade career to then kind

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Speaker 25: of have to front foot and go there's all these

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Speaker 25: other people in the studio going, well, we want to

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Speaker 25: write at one hundred percent, so let's get on with this.

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Speaker 25: So that was kind of interesting, a few sort of

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Speaker 25: stumbling days for them, I think, but at the end

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Speaker 25: of it, they've come out with ten complete tracks and

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Speaker 25: a full album and a documentary and you can just

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Speaker 25: hear the passion for both of them, I think four.

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Speaker 25: I mean, they're very, very talented musicians. Branda Carlole is

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Speaker 25: an excellent songwriter in her own right, and then to

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Speaker 25: come together with someone who can just suddenly, you know,

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01:51:15,333 --> 01:51:17,893
Speaker 25: get it on the keys and smash out this massive

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Speaker 25: riff or oh, I know, I want to do like

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Speaker 25: this real orchestral end to a song. So I'm just

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Speaker 25: gonna write that right the second. You know, in ten

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Speaker 25: minutes later, she's kind of standing there in awe, being

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Speaker 25: like what has happened? So I think that they definitely

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01:51:32,933 --> 01:51:36,013
Speaker 25: have brought out the best in each other. The first

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01:51:36,093 --> 01:51:38,173
Speaker 25: three tracks are quite rock and roll, and they're sort

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01:51:38,173 --> 01:51:41,053
Speaker 25: of like a tribute to who Sir Elton John and

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01:51:41,413 --> 01:51:45,053
Speaker 25: Bernie Torpin idolized when they were young and coming up

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01:51:45,093 --> 01:51:48,213
Speaker 25: through the ranks. The opening track the Rows of Laura Nero.

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Speaker 25: If you haven't heard her music before, listen to this

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01:51:51,373 --> 01:51:53,133
Speaker 25: album and then go back and have a listened to

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Speaker 25: her stuff through the sixties and seventies.

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Speaker 2: It's got this.

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Speaker 25: Real rolling, rambling intro to it, and it starts the

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Speaker 25: whole album and you don't hear anyone sing for like

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Speaker 25: the first two minutes. It's got this massive, long intro,

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Speaker 25: and you've got musicians and they're like Chad Smith on

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Speaker 25: the drums from Redhot Chillies, You've got Brandy, You've got

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Speaker 25: Alton Andy, Andrew wat is their producer, and they're just like, well,

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Speaker 25: we're just all going to lead it with our music stuff,

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Speaker 25: and you're not gonna hear anyone sing yet, you know,

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Speaker 25: Like it's quite an interesting start for these guys. Brandon

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Speaker 25: Carlo actually leads most of the songs in the vocals,

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01:52:27,413 --> 01:52:30,133
Speaker 25: and Elton does a lot of the backup harmony vocals.

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Speaker 25: He said that was a huge challenge for him because

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Speaker 25: everyone has their their rhythm right or how they would

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Speaker 25: a phrase like they're phrasing, and so he's had to

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01:52:38,933 --> 01:52:41,333
Speaker 25: kind of match his phrasing, and you know, he's got

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01:52:41,373 --> 01:52:43,933
Speaker 25: that big voice where often people have to sort of

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01:52:43,973 --> 01:52:46,053
Speaker 25: match into him, and he's had to change that style

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Speaker 25: to fit in with her. So I think it's kind

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Speaker 25: of interesting to know that someone like Sir Elton John

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Speaker 25: wants to sell challenge himself and that's what keeps him going,

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Speaker 25: I think, and keeps them afresh and keeps them wanting

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Speaker 25: to do this.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah yeah, And.

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Speaker 25: So one of the you're want to play this a

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01:53:03,773 --> 01:53:07,053
Speaker 25: little bit later, but Little Richard's Bibles that's the second

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01:53:07,573 --> 01:53:10,013
Speaker 25: song on the album, again a tribute to Little Richard.

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Speaker 25: I mean, people like to see Elton John having around

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01:53:12,093 --> 01:53:14,253
Speaker 25: long enough that they've performed with people like this and

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Speaker 25: then to like sort of have these influences style the

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01:53:18,293 --> 01:53:20,893
Speaker 25: music I think has been kind of a really beautiful

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01:53:20,933 --> 01:53:24,373
Speaker 25: place for them to go. I can't imagine also being

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01:53:24,413 --> 01:53:27,973
Speaker 25: Brandy Carlisle saying here's some lyrics I wrote, would you

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Speaker 25: like to write a song like I just imagine it?

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Speaker 22: Would you like to take part in this?

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01:53:32,693 --> 01:53:35,293
Speaker 25: And some real strength in the singing. Swing for the

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Speaker 25: Fences is a song that both of them have said,

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Speaker 25: you know, it's encouraging our young gay youth to embrace

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Speaker 25: their identity and your dreams. If you can look to

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Speaker 25: both of them, have how to live your truth. Doesn't

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Speaker 25: matter what politically is happening around you. You know there

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Speaker 25: is hope for that and giving strength to those communities,

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Speaker 25: which I think is a beautiful place for both of

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Speaker 25: them to, you know, to lead from. And at the end,

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01:53:57,293 --> 01:53:59,013
Speaker 25: so they've done it in two halves because they want

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Speaker 25: it to be like an actual album that you flip over.

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Speaker 25: There's disc one, there's disc two. Disc one ends with

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Speaker 25: Brandy singing a song called You Without Me as an

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01:54:07,213 --> 01:54:08,493
Speaker 25: absolute tear jerkish.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds beautiful on it.

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Speaker 25: It's all about that moment where you're so proud because

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01:54:12,893 --> 01:54:15,253
Speaker 25: your kids have grown and they're about to do some

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Speaker 25: things on their own, but you're also devastated because they

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01:54:17,293 --> 01:54:19,853
Speaker 25: don't need you so much anymore. So for anyone who's

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01:54:19,893 --> 01:54:22,493
Speaker 25: a parent, there is going to you know, you can

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01:54:22,573 --> 01:54:24,693
Speaker 25: let some tears out over that one, which is quite beautiful.

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Speaker 25: And then the second half ends with Elton, So it's

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Speaker 25: kind of like this full wrap up where they've really

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Speaker 25: showcased all their talents, but they've also given space to

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01:54:33,213 --> 01:54:35,613
Speaker 25: each other, and I think that's a pretty awesome place

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Speaker 25: to be.

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Speaker 2: Sounds great, I'm looking for Okay, what did you give it?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 25: This has really changed so many because the more I

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01:54:42,213 --> 01:54:44,053
Speaker 25: slit with it, the more I like it. I started

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01:54:44,133 --> 01:54:46,893
Speaker 25: somewhere like a seven, but then I've just gone hard

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01:54:46,973 --> 01:54:50,613
Speaker 25: on it for the last sort of two hours, and yeah,

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Speaker 25: I'm going to say maybe more like a nine. Okay, yeah, yeah,

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01:54:56,453 --> 01:54:58,373
Speaker 25: it grows on you, and I think that's a great place.

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Speaker 25: And I just love Brandy's I love her voice on this.

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Speaker 2: He was great, alright, well looking yeah, yeah, okay, cool

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Speaker 2: figure steal so nine out of ten for who believes

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Speaker 2: in angels. We will get that little Richard's Bible song.

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Speaker 2: Play that to you in a couple of minutes right

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Speaker 2: now at seven to twelve on Newstalk's EDB.

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Speaker 2: Very shortly for weekends sport. A massive weekend of various

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Speaker 2: different codes. I think what four Super Rugby games back

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Speaker 2: to back this afternoon to look forward to. Plus, of

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Speaker 2: We're gonna leave you with Sir Elton John and Brandy Carlyle.

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Speaker 2: Their album is Who Believes in Angels? This is Little

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Speaker 2: Richard's Bible.

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