1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: We need to talk about one of the more contentious 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: relationship debates first of the modern age, which is the 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: old location sharing. Heaps of us do it, but there 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: are some concerns that this practice can be used by 5 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 1: abuses to exert control over their partners. Sarah Chatwin as 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: a psychologist and a brain coach at Mind Works and 7 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: is with us. 8 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Hi, Sarah, how are you? 9 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: I'm very well, thank you, Despite the fact that I 10 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: do location share? 11 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: How do you do? 12 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: How do you know if you shouldn't? 13 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: Well? I think if it becomes something that's driving your 14 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: every move in your day, you know, there might be 15 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: a little bit of an imbalance there. And I think 16 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: from the you know, the outset, you and your partner 17 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: or whoever your location sharing with, you know, you need 18 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 2: to have a bit of a chat about, you know, 19 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: what the parameters are, are their boundaries, and what it 20 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: actually means for both of you. 21 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: Do you location share? 22 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: I don't. Honestly. When your producer phoned me, I went, 23 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: what are we talking about here? You know, the world 24 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: and life generally, in my view, has got very complicated 25 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: with regard to apps and just you know, the digital space, 26 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: social media and all the rest of it sometimes I 27 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: would like to really dial back and just think about 28 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: what we actually need and what actually benefits us positively. 29 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: So no, but would I Yeah, I wouldn't have a 30 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 2: problem with it. I've never been asked, and I've never asked, 31 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: to be honest. 32 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So I was explaining to the guys in the 33 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: office when we're talking about this, that I location share 34 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: with two people. One is my husband, because as my 35 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: team can testify, you can call that man ten times 36 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: and he will not pick up the phone, like he's 37 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: got no idea. So sometimes you actually just we've got 38 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: the small child, so I need to know where he is. 39 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes how much time have I got before they're back 40 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: from there? 41 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: Walk? 42 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Can I have a shower? So it's quite handy. But 43 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: the other ones, the other one is with my mum, 44 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: and this is just a weird codependency, I think. Actually, 45 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: So sometimes I try to call my mum and I 46 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: can't get hold of her, and then I look at 47 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: the location to see if she might be with one 48 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: of her clients, and they go, oh, that's why she's not answering. 49 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: I'll just wait, she'll call me back. And then, as 50 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: the producer said to me, that maybe I should just 51 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: learn to go for two hours without needing my mum. 52 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: Have I got to put out your mom? 53 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: Oh? 54 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: Bless Look. I think that what you've summed up there 55 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: is that for you and for many people out there, 56 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: location sharing could reduce anxiety. And I think it's actually 57 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: lovely that you have that relationship with your mum. I'm 58 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: not sure that it's codependent, so don't go there yet, 59 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: but I think that you care. And I think it's 60 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: nice to be able to keep a track on people 61 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: who perhaps are a little older. Maybe there are some 62 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: people out there with limited mobility. Maybe people do have 63 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: small children like you, and they do want to know, 64 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 2: you know what they can cram into the time that's theirs. 65 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: So there are many reasons why location sharing can be 66 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: a really good thing, and I was quite interested to 67 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: see that one in ten ossies said that it's absolutely 68 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: reasonable to track a partner using that app. I just 69 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: think that at the extreme end of the continuum, you 70 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: can have people that perhaps by location sharing, feel like 71 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: they're submitting, feel like they're being coerced by their partner, 72 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: perhaps don't want to do it, but feel like the relationship, 73 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: you know, might hit a bit of a you know, 74 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 2: a blip unless they yes submit to the wishes of 75 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: their partners. So that could be a little bit of 76 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: a dangerous landscape that you have to navigate there. But 77 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: I think you know, it's all about individual preferences, isn't it. 78 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: And as a couple, as two people, you get together, 79 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: you talk about it, you talk about what relevance it 80 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 2: has in your life, and you go from there. 81 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 1: Thank you, Sarah, as always you you brighten my day 82 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: that Sarah Chatwin, psychologist and Brain Brain coach at Mind Works. 83 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: I love that Sarah. Sarah thought it was just I 84 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: have a lovely relationship with my mum and but no, no, 85 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: I just get really frustrated. 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