1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: Right to the Alan Jones story. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 2: Now. 3 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Alan Jones obviously is the very famous Australian broadcaster former 4 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: rugby coach. He's been arrested and charged with sex assault 5 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: offenses spanning almost twenty years. The cops have just in 6 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: the last hour or so been giving a press conference 7 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: or half hour really, with a little bit more detail 8 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: about the eight victims who've come forward. 9 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 3: We will the accused new some of them personally, some 10 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: of them professionally, and we'll also allege that some of 11 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: the victims when the alleged defense took place, was the 12 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 3: first time they ever met accused. 13 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: Kate mcclint McClement sorry, is the Sydney Morning Herald's chief 14 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: investigative reporter. Her investigation first revealed allegations against Alan Jones 15 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: last year and she's with us right now. Hey, Kate, 16 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: Hello Heather, Kate. Did the cops not know anything about 17 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: this until you started breaking the story? 18 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: No, they had interviewed a seventeen year old then seventeen 19 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: year old several years ago, but at that time they 20 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: just said, look, give us a statement, but we just 21 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: want to let you know that it would be your 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: word against basically one of the most powerful men in 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: Australia who will be armed with top eight lawyers. So look, 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: that was the reality of the situation. But since December 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: last year, when I revealed that a number of young men, 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: some on the record, were making allegations of indecent assault 27 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: or groping against Alan Jones, I think the dynamic changed 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: and it's hard to put into words just what a 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 2: powerful person Alan Jones has been. And in fact, one 30 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: of my victims, who was Alan Jones's driver, said at 31 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: the time Alan Jones was more powerful than the Prime 32 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: Minister and who was I a nobody. So I think 33 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: that power in balance prevented people from coming forward in 34 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: the past. But as one victim said to me, I 35 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: just don't want Alan Jones to get a state funeral. 36 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: I want people to know what he has done before 37 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: he died. Now, Alan Jones has denied these allegations and 38 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: is maintaining his innocence, so we have to keep that 39 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: in mind. 40 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: He threatened you with defamation, ay, did that ever come No? 41 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: But he did. Yes, he did threaten me with a 42 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: defamation action, but no he never filed one. 43 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: And tell me something, I mean, without getting too into 44 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: too much detail, case did at the moment, what we 45 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: understand is groping, right, Is there any allegation beyond that, 46 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: anything more serious than that? 47 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 2: The most serious ones are allegations of indecent sexual assault, 48 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: which can attract a jail penalty of five years, So 49 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: they are serious offenses. And as you mentioned, there's actually 50 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: twenty four chargers, so it'll be interesting to see what happens. 51 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: I think that there'll be more detail when Alan Jones 52 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: goes to court on the eighteenth of December. 53 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: Is he held in the clink until the eighteenth of December? 54 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: Do they let it out? 55 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: No, he was granted bail and there have been restrictions 56 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: placed upon him so that he can't leave the country 57 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: and we don't know yet what his bail conditions are, 58 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: but they will be not to contact witnesses and things 59 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: like that. 60 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: All right, Kate, thank you very much, appreciate your time. 61 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: It's Kate mclimont Saiday morning, HEROLD chief investigative reported. 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