1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: In parliament, that hacker that went around the world many 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: many times. Those who took part now being disciplined. Bary Soper, 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: senior political correspondent with us this afternoon. Very good, good. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: And rightly so. Ryan, good afternoon. I said at the 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: time that I thought it was the most disgraceful performance 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: I've ever seen in a parliament in my more than 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: forty years of covering it. It was totally totally disorderly. 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: Parliament should never be reduced to that, and that Parliament 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: has to have some sort of sanctity, and they just 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: blew it out of the water. And don't be surprised 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: if you see them doing it again, because they're being 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: very defiant even though they are going before the Privileges Committee. 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: So parliament began today with the Speaker Jerry brownly rightly 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: saying that the behavior of Labour's peni henade. Now he 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: nad didn't go up and remonstrate right in the front 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: of the desk of David c More, but he got 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: out into the corps of Parliament, which he shouldn't be. 18 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: He should remain in a seat. Debbie Na Riva Packer, 19 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: who looked as though she was firing a pistol at 20 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: David c. She denied that, of course, but that's what 21 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: it certainly looked like. Rawai White Tea. He's going to 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: the Privilege Privileges Committee. Hannah Raffiti myp Clark. She's the 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 2: one that started it all, although apparently she wasn't meant 24 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 2: to begin it. She was handed the legislation and then 25 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: took it upon herself to do the haka and look, 26 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: it was disgraceful and I think they should be dealt 27 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: with firmly by the Privileges Committee, but as we know, 28 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: it'll be a slap on the wrist with the old 29 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: proverbial wet bus ticket. Well, Jerry Brownie, of course he 30 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: stood frustrated while they're up to their antics. He had 31 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: no choice essentially to take the action as he did 32 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: as Parliament resumed today. 33 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: The issues of members leaving their seats to participate in 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 3: an activity that was disorderly and disruptive to the procedure 35 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: of the House is something that should be considered further. 36 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: And I have determined that the actions of the Odorld Penner, 37 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: Hannah were Packer Rower and Hannah RAFETI might be Clark 38 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: and participating in a disruptive activity on the floor of 39 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 3: the House on the fourteenth of November gave rise to 40 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: a question of privilege, which stands referred to the Privileges Committee. 41 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: Oh there you go. Is he going to Have they 42 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: spoken yet about changing the upping the fines the penalties. 43 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: They in fact they will be talking about they're having 44 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: a meeting today enough, But that's really more to see 45 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: whether the hakka can be used in the future under 46 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: the Tea Kunger Right, okay, and look at it. It 47 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 2: can be used. Now that has got to be a 48 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: arrangement with It's got. 49 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: To be planned. The fairy decision. 50 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: Now. 51 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: Nikola Willis told us yesterday that Winston's a man of 52 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: his word, and Winston said it would happen by when. 53 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: So do we get something by tomorrow? 54 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: Well, we're getting it this week. Let's say that. And 55 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: if Winston is amount of us, then we will see 56 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: it tomorrow. So it's imminent. The you know, the boats 57 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: that we were buying were far too big, and I 58 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: think most people accept that because the infrastructure on either 59 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: side of the Strait couldn't handle these big roll on, 60 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: roll off rail ferries. So I would think you'll see 61 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: smaller fairies. But it blew out from seven hundred odd 62 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: million to over three billion dollars and the government was 63 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: presented with it immediately on taking the Treasury benches. It's 64 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: been suggested the break fee with the South Koreans, because 65 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: they had started building them, will be in the order 66 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: of three hundred million dollars, So that's virtually money down 67 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: the gurglar, which is bloody terrible, but essentially Willis told 68 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: Parliament today the government had to act, as I said, 69 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: very quickly on becoming the government because the commitment labor 70 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: had just made it. 71 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 4: It would not have been a good deal for New 72 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: Zealanders to have shoveled more cash at a failing project 73 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 4: which had blown out to more than three billion dollars 74 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 4: in cost, and I would say was destined to blow 75 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: out even further where there were still questions about whether 76 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 4: the ships could pass through the Tory channel. It was 77 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 4: a failed project and the member's defense of it tells 78 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 4: me that she does not take value for taxpayers money. 79 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: Seriously, three billion dollars, Barry, I would expect a bridge 80 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: across the cook that's right, the greyhound racing. We've got 81 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: about a minute left. But this is fascinating from Winston 82 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: Peter's one hundred and fifty million dollar industry gone. 83 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well here he is giving the leg up to 84 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: the tab given the exclusive gambling rights yesterday, and then 85 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: announcing that greyhound racing is for the chop. It's interesting 86 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 2: that greyhound racing it started in my home province of 87 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: Southland in eighteen seventy six, almost one hundred and fifty 88 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: years old. I was going to play some audio, but 89 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: I won't. 90 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 5: I know, we're running out of time here, not of 91 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 5: that exactly, but look, I find it really interesting that 92 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 5: I tried to find out the figures when it came 93 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 5: to greyhound racing that the dog deaths are very very 94 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 5: low though a percentage of the dogs that. 95 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: Do race point zero three six percent, so it's a 96 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: very low number. But I tried to find out then 97 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: the horse racing deaths, they would appear to me to 98 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: be much higher, although the percentages are not there. They 99 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: have cardiac arrest, they have a lot of broken limbs. 100 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: So anyway, Winston and Infinite Wisdom has decided over the 101 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: next twenty months, they're debating a legislation in the House 102 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: today to say that greyhound owners aren't going to be 103 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 2: able to euthanize the greyhounds without reason. If they're not sick, 104 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: they'll be re homed. There's about two thousand, nine hundred 105 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: of them. I've got a friend, Old Ellen Bollard, the 106 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: former Government of the Reserve Bank. He's got a greyhound. 107 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: He parades it beautifully along Oriental Bay in Wellington with 108 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: a nice little dotted cover. I's not raising it. He 109 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 2: will be home one, yes, exactly. 110 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: Oh that's lovely. Well, there'd be twenty nine hundred more 111 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 1: where that came from. 112 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 2: Yes, there will be. So if you want one right 113 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: there you go. 114 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: You can be honest with you. I don't think they're 115 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: particularly pretty. 116 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: Beautiful, really high archers. 117 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: Skinny and ugly. Barry Soper, thank you very much for that. 118 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,119 Speaker 1: Senior political correspondent for News Talks. 119 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 3: He'd be for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen 120 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: live to News Talks. 121 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 122 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.