1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Live from the Export Bear Garden Studios. You're listening to 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: the BYC and I can tell you where stoke to 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: be back as we look forward to the summer of 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: cricket ahead. A shame then, that we should kick it 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: off with an absolute debarcle that was the Afghanistan Test. 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: And while we can admire the innovation shown to dry 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: out what amounted to a swamp, it was a disappointment 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: that an historic occasion was ruined in such a fashion. 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: But fear not, there's plenty to come, including Thisra Lankans, 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: though it seems mother Nature may have something to say 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: there as well. And fell as it's been an age 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: Dyllan Cleaver. 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: It's been so long that this entire studio has changed. 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: It has beneath our feet, has very clean lines now 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: very Swedish, Scandinavian, very yeah, corporate. 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: Yes, I feel quite uncomfortable in it. 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: I know you keep looking over my shoulder here. I 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: keep thinking I'm missing something. 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: Well, I was just trying to remember what the name 20 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: of the studio was. Paul Ford your barst how's life? 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: It's good, Jason, it's good. Spring is nearly sprung at 22 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: Wellington and it's probably about three months away, I think, 23 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: and then we'll be ready for cricket season down here. 24 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 3: But good news, we're ripping into it over in Gaul 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: very soon. Yeah. 26 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: Just on spring. Actually, interesting fact about spring. I don't 27 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: know if you know this, Dylan, that spring doesn't officially 28 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: start till the twenty third of September. I always thought 29 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: it started at the very beginning of September, but it's 30 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: actually the twenty third. 31 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: No, it's on the equinox, which is either the twenty 32 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: second or the twenty third or the twenty first, depending 33 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: on when the right. Okay, the Earth is exactly halfway distant, 34 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: and it's access to the sun. But do you know 35 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: there's a. 36 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: Well this is fascinating. 37 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a very cunning way of getting yourself twenty 38 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: one extra days of summer. So you adhere to the 39 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: strict calendar interpretation of the seasons. So spring starts on 40 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: September first, summer starts on December the first, but then 41 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: you switch to the actual technical scientific equinox things, and 42 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: you don't go into autumn until March twenty second. 43 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: Give you two days this summer fascinating. 44 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: Can you just go through it again? 45 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: Now? 46 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: This is what people tune in for totally. 47 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: Astronomy season season chat. 48 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: Now New Zealanders is Shri Lanka that starts today, right, yes, yeah, 49 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: and the weather forecast, as you briefly mentioned there, Paul 50 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: Forward not looking great. For God say, let's not have 51 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: more Shenanigans. 52 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: No, that's right, but you know, there's always a result 53 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 3: at Gaul, so we shouldn't be too despondent about that. 54 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: And there is a slightly bizarre situation with this test 55 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: match given the scheduling. First of all in monsoon season, 56 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: albeit at the sort of bitter end of it. But 57 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 3: it's a six day test. We've got a rest day 58 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 3: plank on Saturday because it is the Sri Lankan presidential elections, 59 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: so there's extra day so everyone can bigger off and 60 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 3: vote than the New Zealand boys can get absolutely steamed 61 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 3: on Friday night, so they to themselves perfect. 62 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I've got a lotit. I'm massively looking forward 63 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: to it, and it begs the question, and now that 64 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: the BYC is back, of course, where are we at 65 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: New Zealand. You know, I was thinking about the end 66 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: of last season and it was not a great end 67 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: to the sea. It wasn't a great season all round. 68 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: We talked often about changes and you know what needs 69 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: to happen, because it felt like we were sliding a 70 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: little bit. Where are you with the New Zealand side 71 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: at the moment, Dylan. 72 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: It felt like a kind of dribbly old season. 73 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: Yes, it did. 74 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: Never really amounted too much. Well, I can tell you 75 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: where we're officially at, if that helps. Sure, we're officially 76 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: third on the WTC table, which is the world tiest 77 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: championship obviously, but it is a misleading third. 78 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm staggered by that. 79 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: Yes, so we're at fifty percent, where New Zealand does 80 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: really well. And this is something to really be proud of, 81 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: Like your chest fills up with this amazing feeling, groundswell 82 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: of goodwill and good feeling. We're very good at not 83 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: getting any points deductions for slow overrates. That's the strongest 84 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: part of our game at the moment. So where you've 85 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: got a team like England that has played sixteen tests 86 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: one eight of them, they've actually got a better than 87 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: fifty percent record, they have a massive nineteen point deduction 88 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: for overrates, so well behind US. Australia has big deductions 89 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,559 Speaker 2: for overrates but they're still well ahead of us. Really, 90 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: we have to win in Sri Lanka to give ourselves 91 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: any chance of qualifying for that final, and we've got 92 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: two tests at a venue. Gul Paul may correct me 93 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 2: if I'm wrong on this, that we have had no 94 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: success at or very little success at Gaul over the 95 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: years of I think we do all right in Colombo, 96 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: but not so well at the fortified city of Gaul. 97 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: I think that is exactly right when you are talking 98 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 3: about the world example of a Ford city bought. But 99 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: as you would know, of course, Jase by the Portuguese 100 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: the World Heritage site. Yeah, look, it's going to be tough. 101 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: I think you know, Sri Lanka at Homer are bloody tough. 102 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 3: And that goal there, I think we're zero and four 103 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: something like that. And yeah, Dylan, as you say, in 104 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,559 Speaker 3: terms of that World Test Championship cycle, we've only played 105 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: six of the fourteen matches that were set to play 106 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: and we've got a really, really tough set. We would 107 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 3: have would have had a nice warm up about against 108 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 3: Afghanistan that we can talk about in a minute. Sri 109 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: Lanka are really the entre before a very very chewy 110 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 3: main course over in India and so really we need 111 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: to probably win you know, five of the next eight 112 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: tests really really difficult given tour in Sri Lanka and 113 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: then three in India. Jase, you were talking about the 114 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 3: fact that it's been a long time between drinks. It's 115 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: about it's one hundred and ninety one days since we 116 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 3: played Test cricket. 117 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: That is crazy. 118 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, And just to bring you down, can I remind 119 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 3: you of what happened the last delivery that New Zealand 120 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: played Test cricket. See us to Cummins four runs, the 121 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: Captain's done. It opens the face to elect all punches 122 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 3: it through point lets out of raw. 123 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still spewing about that particular Test match. You're 124 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: right then, and we should have won it, you know, 125 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: And it isn't concern to me, and I don't know 126 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: how you fellas feel about it. We're coming in cold. 127 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: You know. Sri Lanka's obviously had this series against England, 128 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: a great final Test match victory. That all does not 129 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: go well for us in that regard playing in their 130 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: conditions as well. It would be fair to say then 131 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: I think we are significant underdogs. 132 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. If I can just bring 133 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: the mood down even a little bit more. I guess 134 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: we'll talk about the probable eleven soon, but these four 135 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: players will definitely play it, and that is Conway, Lathan, 136 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: Mitchell and Blundell. That is kind of the four of 137 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: our top six that Conway's averaging seventeen point seven in 138 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: his last Test innings, Latham's averaging twenty four point seven, 139 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: that's not great as an opening peer. Blundell, who was 140 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: just such a reliable keeper batsman, is just having a 141 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: terrible run of it, averaging ten point three to three 142 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: in his last Test ten Test innings. And the one 143 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: that might have gone under the radar a little bit 144 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: is New Zealand's number one ranked cricketer and justifiably so, 145 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: but he's just come down to earth a little bit recently, 146 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: and that's old Dasid. Mitchell was yes, only averaging thirty 147 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: two point four, which is not awful, but it's not 148 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: the sort of stratospheric heights that were being used to him. 149 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: So really we're only going in with Cain Williamson and 150 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: Retch and Revendra have got any kind of recent red 151 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: ball form behind them. 152 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'll tell you what, Kay Williamson doesn't have, 153 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 3: and that's red ball form in Sri Lanka. Against Sri 154 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: Lanka he averages twenty six. Versus Sri Lanka in New 155 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 3: Zealand he averages one hundred and fourteen. So it looks 156 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: good on paper, you know, averaging seventy eight overall. But 157 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: his record in Srilanka is shiphouse. 158 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, fel let's have a bit of faith. 159 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is miserable, this is terrible. I'so remember the 160 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: one hundred that came Williamson got, which was a brilliant 161 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: one hundred with Ross Taylor, Russ Taylor's arts tested captain 162 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: in a test New Zealand one entry link. 163 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Also you want to check into the next too, 164 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: just to bring us down again. You know, we're notoriously 165 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: bad against spin in the past, so it's going to 166 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: be a challenge. But let's look at the likely eleven, 167 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: shall we. And I also believe, you know, players such 168 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: as Conway, he's got the ability to turn things around, 169 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: he's got the experience and we know he's a quality player. Pedigree, pedigree, 170 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:58,359 Speaker 1: thank you, certainties for this eleven Conway, Lathan Williamson, Ravendra, Mitchell, Blundell, 171 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: Salviy Yep. 172 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: He will definitely play the first, yes, Skipper. Yeah, and 173 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 2: Tim he might not play all six coming up, but 174 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: he will definitely play this one. 175 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Because there was a bit of chat about 176 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: Tim Salvey at the end of that last season. Really 177 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: is you know, he's coming towards the end of his 178 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: career and I think he played a bit of county cricket, 179 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: hasn't he. 180 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: Played the hundred? Yeah? 181 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he said he's feeling really good. He acknowledged 182 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: actually that he wasn't playing that great at the end 183 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: of the season, and you know, he's the sort of 184 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: player that knows this game pretty well, so hopefully he 185 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: can turn it around. 186 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: Good record in Asia too. 187 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, your thoughts on this? There are certainties to you, Paul. 188 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think I think that's right. I mean 189 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: I'd probably put Phillipson as a certainty as well, and 190 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: I think a JS Patel as well as an absolute 191 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: certainy to play. But yeah, really it really comes down 192 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: for me to you know, who's the extra pace bowler 193 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 3: in which spinnar you want to go with? 194 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, all the possibilities there, of course, Glenn Phillips, Sant Bracewall, 195 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: Mad Henry willow Rat, Michael Sears and a JS battalion. 196 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: It's one of those scenarios just looking at it on 197 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: the bowling front, because you're in Sri Lanka. Do you 198 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: just chuck in and just stack it with spinners? And 199 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: is that the way to go about it or is 200 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: that a I think so? Yeah, I guess you do. 201 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: Really don't two seamers. I think Sow there will be one. 202 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: You're choosing between Raw, Henry and. 203 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: Sears. I think probably for the first yest they go 204 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: with the experience. 205 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got to go Henry, I think. 206 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 3: But man of the Series against Australia, so you know, 207 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: good form six and a half months ago. 208 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I definitely think you do have to do 209 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: that though having said that, jeez, I was tremendously excited 210 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: by willow Raw before he got injured. I thought, yeah, 211 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: he's he's got something about him. But yeah, I think 212 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: in this scenario you go experience, you get Henry in there, 213 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: and you're just chuck in as many spinners as you can. 214 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, throwing spinners against the wall really and seeing which 215 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: one stick. So I'm pleased that pulses. He think that 216 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 2: Agaz is a definite. I would love to see him 217 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: in there. I just know they just do funny things 218 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: with spinners. They tend to pick the guy they think 219 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: we'll get them more runs rather than the guy that 220 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: get your wickets, get them wickets. 221 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. The other thing on that is that you know, 222 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: with Ranganahirath obviously in there as the spin bowling coach, 223 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: you would expect that they're drilling in some some left 224 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: arm spin there. So you know, stating there is probably 225 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 3: the great beneficiary of that. You would assume that there 226 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 3: that's a bit of a project that's been happening behind 227 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 3: the scenes as well. 228 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: Well. 229 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: My information when they went to do their rankings for 230 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: this latest Central Contract list, my understanding is that they 231 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: rated virtual Santner as the number one red Bull spinner 232 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: in the country. So there you have it. 233 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I but in Gaul, Yeah, I think that, you know, 234 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: I don't have a massive issue with that because I 235 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: think Santaer did bowl well last last season, apart from 236 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: against the Australians in that T twenty series where I 237 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: thought he bowled like he was shipping his pants quite frankly, 238 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: and it annoyed the crap out of me. And he's 239 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: and you know, and in terms of you know, adding 240 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: the runs to that requirement, you know, he's he's never 241 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: done that enough. Yeah, he's a handy batsman. But yeah, 242 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: who do who do we ultimately think they're going to 243 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: go with from the bowling stocks. 244 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: I think he's right. I think Phillips will get that 245 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: screen all around her ahead of Michael Bracewell. I think 246 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: he's probably a better uption with both bat and ball 247 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: and in the field, so I think he's got the 248 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: edge of the year, Henry. I think you're right. I 249 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: think they'll go with him. I've got a funny feeling 250 00:12:53,400 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: they will go Santa, I really do. Yeah, room one 251 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: will spin. I've lost track. 252 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 3: No, I think we're all right because you ended up 253 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: with Latham, Conway, Williamson, Ravendra, Mitchell, Blundell, Phillips, and then Santna, 254 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 3: Henry South and ajs Okay and so Bracewill misses out 255 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: and well Young of course miss out. I think krick 256 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 3: Info had that Henry Nichols was going to be bearing 257 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 3: down on some statistical milestones and this selected. But he's 258 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: actually not in the squad. So I'm going to be 259 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: betting that that's not going to happen. 260 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm pretty comfortable with that side. I 261 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: think that's relatively solid. And let's not forget in terms 262 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: of Phillips too, as a bit of a rando that 263 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: performance in the second Test against Australia. Didn't he get 264 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: a five. 265 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 2: For first Test of the basin I was at. 266 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: The first Test? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he gives it 267 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: a bit of a rip he does, so, you know, 268 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: and as we know, he's buddy great in the field 269 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: and he's more than handy and as we previously mentioned too, 270 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: by the way, Dylan a great Sri Lanka coming off 271 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: a great victory against the English. 272 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was an amazing Test. It was much a 273 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: bit of it on ICC TV actually, and yeah, hell 274 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: of a surprise. I mean everything about that series looks 275 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 2: like it was just going to be in England Waltz 276 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: the victory. But there's some good players in that Sri 277 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: Lanka team and they've got the guy who did didn't 278 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: feature really over there about the guy pro Bath js Arara, 279 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: I think the left arm spinner has got a phenomenal 280 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: just like a Bonker's record a bowling in Sri Lanka, 281 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: and they've got this t twenty convert that they've turned 282 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: into a test better whose name has scapes me now. 283 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: But it's Camindu Mendus, is it. 284 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Pascual, which is a great name, Pasqual. 285 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: So he's just burst onto the scene and is scoring 286 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: runs for fun. So it is not going to be easy. 287 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: Can I just sorry? Can I just mention one thing 288 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: about our spinners and our development? 289 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: Sure, I just got this. 290 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: It's this weird thing that we seem to be better 291 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: at developing bits and pieces battery Bowldery type of spinners, 292 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: your brace Wolves, your Phillips, your s then we are 293 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: of actually developing our specialist spinners like our issues and 294 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: our Eddie air Sharks, and I think you can go 295 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: back to Nethula and those sort of guys. I think 296 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: there's something a little bit broken in our system that 297 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: we are valuing these kind of all roundery converts. Yes, 298 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: I mean Phillips was a wicket keeper. Michael Bracewell was 299 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: a wicket keeper, and Center's obviously talent. He could do anything. 300 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: You could go to the Olympics for badminton, He's that talented. 301 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: But I think our development has missed a trick with 302 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: some of our specialist spinners, great stuff. 303 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it's an interesting point. I guess 304 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 3: it's just those New Zealand conditions again. You know, when 305 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: do you get to bowl? If you're a specialist spinner 306 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: that can't bat, you're just you're never going to be 307 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: doing anything in a game. So you probably get melded 308 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: into the into these the into that type of player 309 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: through the conditions that we have in domestic cricket. Just 310 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 3: going back to Pisul, come into Mendos just to make 311 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: you love him a little bit more. Dylan as well, 312 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: well he bowls left orthodox and right offspin. That's not 313 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: a bad combination when you're a batting all rounder. Yeah, 314 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: there are some bloody good players in the in the 315 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: Sri Lankan team, as you say, for bath jas Area 316 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 3: fifty three wickets in twelve innings at Gaul. That's scary. 317 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: But weirdly they're a little bit like New Zealand. They've 318 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: actually got a bunch of really good seamers at the moment. 319 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: They've got a Setha Fernando, they've got Laharu Kumara, they've 320 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: got Vishua Fernando, they've got Milan Rath Nayaka, they've got 321 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: a whole bunch of guys and they've got to do 322 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: the same as New Zealand. They've got to gall and gone, 323 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: oh geez, We've just had a pretty decent finish to 324 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: a tour in England and there's a couple of guys 325 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 3: that are just not going to be selected because the 326 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: conditions just don't suit them in Sri Lanka. So yeah, interesting. 327 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 3: The other guy to keep an eye out is keep 328 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: an eye on is of course the wicket keeper. Kusal 329 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: Mendus will be blazing away probably at number seven, and 330 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: a couple of the opening batter is of course very 331 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: familiar with Frank Dimoth, Karuna Ratna and Pethandsunka, the guy 332 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: who added magnificently in that third Test match. So yeah, 333 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 3: they're going to be They have got a lot of 334 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: guys that bowl a lot of spin and bat very 335 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: similar to us. And let's not forget Angela. Matthews has 336 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: a spectacular record against Zealand. I think he everage is 337 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: better than fifty, very very good record against. 338 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: That formidable Well, let's laid on the table then fellas 339 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: the scores. Please, how do you see this turning out? 340 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: I think we're going to cling on for a drawing 341 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 2: this first, Yes, where they're assisted Ford. 342 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I reckon. I think it'll be a result. I 343 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: think we'll win one and lose one. I reckon it's 344 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 3: going to be one. All yeah, I'm not sure which 345 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: way around? 346 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: Okay to zip to Sri Lanka? 347 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 3: All right, geez, well about the length of the days. 348 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm not mucking around here, fellows. Um, all right, well 349 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: tell you what we're going to do. We'll take a 350 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: short break and then we'll come back and talk about 351 00:17:53,760 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: the debacle that was the Afghanistan Test. Yes, welcome back 352 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: to the b YC. Well, the cricket seasons actually started 353 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 1: Dylan Clever against the Afghanistan's side, and what an absolute 354 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 1: bloody shambles. 355 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, not much happened in great annoyed way. Actually plenty 356 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: happened in great annoyed Yes, nothing in terms of actual cricket. 357 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: At times it was unintentionally hilarious, it was very funny. 358 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: But then theadre for me for conditions was in terms 359 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: of hosting will always be them running kiddy letter onto 360 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: university overall in Dunedin to try and drive that ground out. 361 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: But this will take some betting. The site of fans 362 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: been held, your table fans, table fans been held horizontally. 363 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 3: Then well one of them was not being held. It 364 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 3: was literally just plugged and plugged into an extension cord 365 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 3: out from the dressing room, plugged into a four plug 366 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: and then the fans are literally laying directly on the grass. 367 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 3: It's just unbelieve evable. 368 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: It didn't work. I loved it when they just cut 369 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of turf out of out of a net. Yes, 370 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: and for the mine and tried to stitch it together 371 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: in less than ideal conditions on the field. 372 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 3: It was. It was the good news. It was free 373 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 3: to go and watch that game. So there were three 374 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 3: thousand people in the stands on the first day, three thousand. 375 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I would have been quite entertaining to watch. Yeah, 376 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because it was such It 377 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: was such a debarkle, you know. And you're right about 378 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: them cutting out, you know, if the game did go ahead, 379 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: one of the players on the outfield could have been 380 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: running and then disappearing into a hole somewhere. But it 381 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: is my understanding though there's never been a test match 382 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: played on that ground, has there No? 383 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: So, and it probably never should be. 384 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: It never should have been. 385 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 2: So there was a worry beforehand. There was a talk 386 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 2: of unseasonable monsoon like conditions. 387 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 3: It rained for twenty three to twenty three. 388 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 2: Days solid, right, it did. But I also read somewhere 389 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: it might have even been on crick Info the Bible. 390 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: I read a preview where the writer expressed serious doubt 391 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 2: whether there'd be a bull bowled in that test. So like, 392 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: this was a couple of days before the game, that's 393 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 2: how poor the ground was. And you just shouldn't be 394 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 2: playing test cricket on those sort of grounds. No, they 395 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 2: can't handle rain. I mean, in this day and age, 396 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 2: you should literally be able to have a ground flooded, drained, 397 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 2: dried within a couple of hours and ready for cricket. 398 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: Well you remember the debacle down in New Zealand. What's 399 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: that ground there? McLean park, same thing and no drainage, 400 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: get a bit of rain. It's like, oh, sorry, fellas, 401 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: it's off, We're going to have to call it. But 402 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 1: it was a shame on many levels Paul Forward. And 403 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: also you know the New Zealanders would have been very 404 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: keen to get some sort of head out before Sri 405 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: Lanka and that never happened. 406 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it is an interesting one and I know 407 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: that Dylan has talked about this a bit in the Bounce, 408 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 3: But you know, there's the fact of the factors New 409 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 3: Zealand would have loved to have played just at a 410 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 3: purely practical cricketing level, yes, but I do think that 411 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: the horrendous satirical conditions, comedic conditions that are greater noida, 412 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: have saved them from a bit of quite a lot 413 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: of controversy which didn't kind of emerge because the game 414 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: didn't really get underway. And that is whether New Zealand 415 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 3: should have been playing Afghanistan in the first place at 416 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 3: all from a I guess a political standpoint, and you know, 417 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: it's a deep and meaningful issue. Probably you know, we 418 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 3: don't need to get into it a nauseum, but there 419 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 3: is a sense of karma around this. You know, this 420 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 3: match was going to go ahead kind of no matter 421 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: what India doing some favors for Afghanistan. You know, you 422 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 3: read into that what you're will New Zealander kind of 423 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 3: minions in this situation, so kind of going along with it. 424 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 3: It's been deafening the silence from the team around this. 425 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: I think tim so out they say something like, you know, 426 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 3: we just do what the boards tell us to do 427 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 3: on the situation. Kind of fair enough in a way, 428 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 3: But there are players around the world that I suspect 429 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: would not have played this game. You know, I can't 430 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: imagine that Usman Kawaja would be playing this test match, 431 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: for example. So, yeah, it's an interesting one and an 432 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 3: interesting conundrum, a really difficult situation. And I know that 433 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: there's been comparisons made with South Africa and the Glen 434 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 3: Eagles Agreement and all that kind of stuff. DC You've 435 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 3: probably got some interesting insights on this one too. 436 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. The only problem with the South Africa comparison, well, 437 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: there's a few problems with it. It's not a particularly 438 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: elegant comparison in some ways. In other ways it's perfect. 439 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: You know, it's apparent regimes, and this is a way 440 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: for the world to stand up against parent regimes is 441 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 2: to boycott them, to not give them a chance to, 442 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 2: I guess be part of the normal cycle of the 443 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: world in terms of sport and politics and trade and 444 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: that kind of thing. So, but the problem is that 445 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: in South Africa you had a very a situation where 446 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: every other African nation made it very clear they didn't 447 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: want anyone having anything to do with South Africa. It's 448 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: almost the opposite. Yeah, all the Asian cricket nations want 449 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: the world to embrace Afghanistan cricket. So it's it is 450 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: the same, same, but hellishly different as well. 451 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 3: And let's not forget the ICC gave Afghanistan seventeen million 452 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 3: dollars US to promote men's a women's cricket in the country. 453 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: I mean, the whole thing is a shambles. Let's be honest. 454 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really tricky one. Yes, we'll leave it there. 455 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: We'll leave it there now. The White Fans Fellas three 456 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: match tea series against Australia starts tomorrow in McKay, a 457 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: town named after John McKay, who invented the spring loaded stapler. 458 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: Is it McKay or McKay mackay. Yeah, yeah, I don't 459 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: have huge expectations here given how we were last season, Fells. 460 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: Should we just call it now? 461 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 2: I can tell you some of this is the White 462 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: fan This is going to sound like a real burn, 463 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: but there is a deeper issue at play here. The 464 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 2: White Fans have played sixteen internationals in twenty twenty four. 465 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 2: To date they have played ten to twenty eyes. They 466 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 2: have won one and lost nine. They have wo six 467 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 2: oly eyes. They have won one and lost five. Now 468 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 2: all of them have been against England. They're about to 469 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: go to Australia. I suspect they're going to get a 470 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: handed to them there as well in this three match. 471 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 2: But then they have to go on to the UAE 472 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 2: for the Wealthy twenty. They get two warm up matches 473 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 2: I believe, then they're into it on October against India. 474 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: They in such poor form that really is there's just 475 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: no depth there. I mean, they are playing players and 476 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 2: it sounds like you're picking on them. But Georgia Plimer, 477 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 2: Maddie Green is he gaze who just don't score runs 478 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: and yet don't get dropped. They occupy their places almost 479 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 2: as of right. It's just a really difficult position at 480 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: the moment. I know Sophie Divine has announced that this 481 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: will be her last tournament, has Skip or standing down. 482 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: It feels like they're in a vortex of bad juju 483 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: that they just cannot get out of, and I really 484 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 2: can't see a way out of them out for them 485 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 2: anytime soon. That's how negatively I feel about it, which 486 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 2: is a shame because I mean, I'll watch the World 487 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 2: T twenty, but I'm just not expecting any great things 488 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 2: from New Zealand. 489 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: Well on that Paul Ford, should it be coach Tom 490 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: Sawyer's last chance too? I mean, but can you blame 491 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: him with you know, Galan has just been talking about 492 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: the fact that where's the depth? You've shipped me again? 493 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: Haven you what's his name? 494 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 3: Huckleberry fins mate? You love you love a bit of 495 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 3: Mark Twain. You're very literary, sons of ches. I'm going 496 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 3: to have that deleted one. Look, I think it does 497 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 3: feel like there's bigger things at play than you know, 498 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 3: changing the coach and she'll be right, you know, he 499 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 3: can only do what he's He can only do what 500 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 3: he can with the resources that are available to him. 501 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 3: And to be fair, the build up for this looks 502 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: pretty decent. You know, they're off to the T twenty 503 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 3: World Cup in the UAE. It's going to be about 504 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 3: forty degrees, it's going to be spin friendly and so 505 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 3: heading up to the upper northern reaches of Australia is 506 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: not the stupidest thing in the world, but a really, 507 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 3: really tough group they've got India, Australia, Sri Lanka and Pakistan. 508 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 3: You know, in spinning conditions in thirty nine degree heat. 509 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 3: One of these teams is not like the other. So 510 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 3: you know, it's a bloody difficult assignment. As you say, 511 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 3: all the all the media leading into this one that's 512 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 3: been focused on Sophie Divine and Susie Bates playing nine 513 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 3: consecutive World Cups or whatever it is, and good on them, 514 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 3: But yes, it does feel like we're good at we're 515 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 3: good at the moment and we're about to fall off 516 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 3: a cliff, which is a frightening prospect. 517 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it can't be all about Susie and Sophie, No, No, 518 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 2: you know, we've got to eventually be talking about your 519 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: George's and your Rosemaries and your Lareen's and your Brooks 520 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 2: and that. But you know, it just feels like every 521 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 2: single hope for this team is tied up in those 522 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: three names and it just doesn't change. 523 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty grim, but who knows. They may surprise us, 524 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: you know, I hope so you never do. Hey, more 525 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: contraction and again, since our last broadcast, players who have 526 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: chosen to forego central contracts for twenty twenty four to 527 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: twenty five season, in order of importance, Kane Williamson, Devin Conway, 528 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: Lucky Ferguson, Adam Milne, Finn Allen, James Nisham. 529 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 2: I thought you're a messive James Neshen Fan, I am, 530 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 2: You've relegated into the bottom of that list, So. 531 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: I didn't write the list. What's what's the what's the 532 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: thinking behind it? 533 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: Are they just they're hunting themselves open a It's it's money. 534 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 2: They've got opportunities to play in South Africa or the 535 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: T twenty up and the David White T twenty up 536 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: in the UAE. 537 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 3: It's yeah. 538 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 2: I mean we've we talked about this a lot. When 539 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: Cain Williamson made his announcement, his seems fairly innocent that 540 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: it's an opportunity to play one summer in South Africa 541 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: to miss the Super Smash. 542 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: Who are you talking about this? 543 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 2: Sorry, Kane Williamson. Yes, but then it was kind of interesting, 544 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: so Caanan, Lucky Ferguson and Adam kind of made themselves 545 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 2: unavadable contracts quite early. Was that second trunch was quite 546 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: interesting really with with Devon Conway and he's been given 547 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: a casual contract. So you either get given a casual 548 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: contract in the blessing of New Zealand cricket or you don't. 549 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: And he got given a casual contract, Fanellen didn't. And 550 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: you could make an argument that has Devon actually done 551 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: enough for New Zealand cricket. I mean, I know he's 552 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: a very fine player and he started off with a 553 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: his and auror in all three formats, but has he 554 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: done enough to warrant a casual contract That kind of 555 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: only came Williamson's get. 556 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 3: It's murkhy what you have to do to qualify for 557 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 3: that casual contract too? 558 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: Right? I wonder it's needless? 559 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? Does he did he want one? And Finellen didn't. 560 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 3: He wanted more flexibility. You know, I don't know the 561 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 3: answer to that. Can I add another couple of aims 562 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: on the list for you as well? Tim Seifert is 563 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 3: on a casual contract with Northern Districts, so is Scott Kogerline. 564 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 3: So you know, the interesting thing is that it's the 565 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 3: big guns, the medium sized guns and some of the 566 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: smaller guns are actually all moving to this this new 567 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 3: new mode of payment which basically just frees them up. 568 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 3: But I mean if you're going to argue against it, 569 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 3: where does it end? When When do the rock stars 570 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 3: come back and build the next generation of cricketers? I 571 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 3: think is a question that you know, where does this 572 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 3: send up? I'm not sure, And we're obviously got our 573 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 3: hands tied behind our back of it here in New 574 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: Zealand because we don't pay players as much as what 575 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 3: they can get elsewhere. So you know, simple economics will 576 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: win the day on that one. But also structurally, having 577 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 3: a high paying super smash is just not realistic given 578 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 3: the level of competition from other competitions around the world, 579 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: and also the fact that we're in a really shitty 580 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 3: time zone for India as well, so really really tricky situation. 581 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, it it opened it up for a cricketer. 582 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: I've been very keen on for a couple of seasons now. 583 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: Nathan Smith has waltst into one of those twenty Central contracts, 584 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: which is great. I think he's he's been playing County 585 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: Create yep and doing pretty well. I think so Silver Linings. 586 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw I saw on a I can't remember 587 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: who said it, but I saw it somewhere where it 588 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: was a It was a crystal ball gazing piece off 589 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 3: the back of the contracts. And you know, we've talked 590 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 3: about cricket made moving to this football type contract where 591 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 3: you know players play all year, potentially for different teams, 592 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 3: but effectively tied into the same franchise. And someone made 593 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 3: the point, you know, the next Kame Williamson could be 594 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,239 Speaker 3: like Steven Adams, you know, effectively found early by an 595 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 3: Indian scout and then never plays for New Zealand because 596 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 3: has always got bigger fish to overseas. And that gosh, 597 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 3: that landed heavy for me. I was like, that's a 598 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 3: grim thought. I really hope that doesn't happen. 599 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Hey, it's been a while since I've said this, 600 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: but it's time for Paul Ford's News or ruse. Yes 601 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: it is. 602 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 3: There will be three bits of news, there'll be something 603 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: off piece blatantly incorrect, and the Eihuel Trophy will be 604 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 3: avoided awarded. Each week Ranfilly Shields Dolls will either be 605 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 3: heading off to Jason's mansion out west or to Dylan's 606 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: castle on the North Shore, or it'll be staying in 607 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 3: my humble bungalow in Carrori. So well, let's see what happens. 608 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 3: Number one Nottingham Shay have signed Lunsdon's finest Jacob Duffy, 609 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 3: as they battle to avoid relegation from Division one of 610 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: the County Championship. The thirty year old, with fourteen T 611 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: twenty and six One day international caps for New Zealand, 612 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: has taken two hundred and ninety three first class wickets 613 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 3: in a twelve year long professional career. He joins knots 614 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 3: for their final two red ball matches this season, with 615 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: the East Midland side third from bottom. He actually had 616 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 3: his made his debut four knots overnight against his former side. 617 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 3: He didn't bat and he didn't bowl, but he's next 618 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: man in and they are about four hundred for six 619 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 3: something like that. The Peter Moores is the coach there 620 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 3: and he said Duffy has experienced under his belt and 621 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 3: skill set and time spent in England previously means he 622 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 3: has the ability to make a difference. Intriguingly, I did 623 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: look up interesting people from Lumsdon. Darryl Gibson is one 624 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: and current resident lou Vincent is another. There we go 625 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 3: number two. Sky has renewed it to BCCI Home International rights. 626 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 3: It's an announcement of a four year renewal of its 627 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 3: broadcast partnership with Indian Crickets Stars. The deal runs through 628 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 3: to twenty and twenty eight and it covers all Indian 629 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 3: men's national team cricket matches taking place in India, including 630 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 3: New Zealand's upcoming tour, which will be three Test matches 631 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: that kick off mid October. There will be seventy two 632 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 3: fixtures in all, and of course just a reminder that 633 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 3: domestic New Zealand cricket rights are still held by TV 634 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 3: and Z through until twenty twenty five I think anyway, 635 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 3: the next three years anyway from twenty twenty two. 636 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: So there you go. 637 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 3: And number three, Big Bad bat Essex have described English 638 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 3: Cricket Chiefs as absolutely stupid for docking the county twelve 639 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 3: points because one of their players used a bat that 640 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 3: was ruled too wide by a millimeter or two. The 641 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 3: club slim hopes of winning the County Championship First Division 642 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 3: of all but evaporated after a bat used by Farose 643 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 3: Cushy in April's match against nottingham Shire was found to 644 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 3: have exceeded the permitted dimensions. Cushi made one hundred and 645 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 3: twenty one in his second innings when the bat was 646 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 3: ruled to have breached the regulations when tested by the 647 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 3: match umpires England. Former Essex president and former England captain 648 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 3: Keith Fletcher said, I assume the SEB thought this was 649 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: cheating and the appeal panel is trying to flex its 650 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 3: m its muscles a bit. Parrose does not believe he 651 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 3: did anything wrong. The whole size being penalized, not just 652 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 3: one player. It's only a few millimeters and I think 653 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 3: the e c B have been absolutely stupid. There you go, 654 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 3: there's the three. 655 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 2: What was Well, I think I know what it is. 656 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 2: It's the last story I believe. And the bat wasn't 657 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 2: too wide. The gauge on it was too high. Ah, 658 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: And yes, everything else about that story was dead right. 659 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 2: I remember reading it very interested inly, wondering if it 660 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: was a wide bet. But it wasn't a wide bet. 661 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: It was a two what's the what's the opposite of 662 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 2: broad vertical? 663 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 3: Yeah? 664 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 2: The anyway, the gauge on it was slightly out. They 665 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 2: couldn't get it through the whole right right. 666 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go story three too and say they were 667 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: doped sex points. 668 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 3: Well I don't. I'm gonna have to chick. I'm going 669 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 3: to fact check your one, Dylan, because I don't know 670 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 3: about that, but because she only made twenty one, that 671 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 3: was an extra hundred runs. 672 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't too wide though, But I look, I'll 673 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 2: be very big Menimus about this and I'll take the 674 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 2: trophy this week. 675 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 3: Wow, Holy jeez, audacious. 676 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: Hey Pull Forwards Cricket Violence Corner, Paul Forwards Cricket Violence Corner. 677 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 3: A thirty year old cow vigilante from klim And the 678 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 3: Thane district was kidnapped and brutally as solved by two 679 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 3: men and two cricket bats on Wednesday. The attackers verbally 680 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 3: abused their victim as well, accusing him of informing the 681 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 3: police about a pickup truck transporting a hall of illegal beef, 682 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 3: which led to the vehicle seizure. The incident occurred before 683 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 3: the start of playing nine to thirty am on Tuesday, 684 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: when the victim was forcibly taken from his car and 685 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 3: placed into an auto rickshaw, transported to a location on 686 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 3: the bypass road, then severely beaten with two unbranded cricket bats. 687 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 3: After the assault, the victim was moved to another vehicle 688 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 3: and dropped near a flower market that is the only 689 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 3: rosy thing about this story. Aslam Muller and I have 690 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,720 Speaker 3: been apprehended on smagas board of charges, including my absolute favorite, 691 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 3: a criminal act done in furtherance of a common intention. 692 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 2: There we go. It was the verbal abuse that heard 693 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: the most of I mean, the beating was bad, but yeah, 694 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 2: it was a name calling that really got. 695 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: To Hey, tell you we're going to do We'll take 696 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: another break and come back with your correspondents. Welcome back 697 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: to the BYC and let's get to your correspondence. Incidentally, 698 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: pull forward. If people want to get in touch with us, 699 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: what do they do? Mate? 700 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 3: Flick us an email to BYC at Baserigade dot code 701 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 3: or NZ, or slide into the DMS on Instagram or 702 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 3: Facebook for the Alternative Commentary Collective or the. 703 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: Base Regade Great staff. This is from Simon h the 704 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: longest run up in history. Do you want me to 705 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: read it? 706 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 2: Right? 707 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: Evening Chaps from a gray and gloomy nant witch in England. 708 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: In spite of it being midsummer here, i'mn't sure as 709 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,439 Speaker 1: to when you were back on air. Nevertheless, I thought 710 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: this would be an interesting piece of cricket related news 711 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: to fill the void during the winter hiatus, adding what 712 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: must now be considered are considered the longest run up 713 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: in history. As a pretext, Tom is in our fantasy 714 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: football group and I caught a snippet that he was 715 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: running fifteen kilometers in full cricket whites through the streets 716 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,479 Speaker 1: of London, complete with ball. This got me thinking about 717 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: this potentially being a long run up, and I was 718 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 1: mulling over if this might be some kind of record. 719 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: Fast forward a few days and it seems like he 720 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: smashed the previous skinness world record by some distance and 721 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: raised some decent money for charity in the process. I 722 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: hadn't realized it had actually run in and bowled the 723 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: opening delivery of an actual match in the process. He 724 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: told me that it was full and straight, which is 725 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: just as well, and that is one ball you wouldn't 726 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: want to have to bowl again if it had gone 727 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 1: down the leg's side for four wides. Bravo Tom, and 728 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure you will agree that fundraising for minds UK 729 00:38:55,320 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: feels quite poignant about helping bring wider awareness about men's 730 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: mental health and sport, given that we recently lost the 731 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: great Graham Thorpe. I hope this finds you are well 732 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: and I look forward to more BYC episodes on my 733 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: drives around the northwest of England in the very near future. 734 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 2: All the best Simon, good stuff, Simon. And yeah it 735 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 2: did right. That was a shocking piece of news, wasn't it. 736 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 2: Graham Thorpe, Yes, it was very would you call him gritty? 737 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 2: He wasn't quite classical, but he wasn't really gritty here. 738 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,479 Speaker 2: He was just a very very fine left hand tough 739 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 2: tough yeah, yeah, yeah, so. 740 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 3: Can I just a little piece of just a little 741 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 3: a correction if you will, Tom Dunn, this is the 742 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 3: guy that Simon has written to us about, So bethnal Green. 743 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 3: It wasn't fifteen it wasn't fifteen kilometers. It was fifteen 744 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,439 Speaker 3: miles that he ran in, so twenty four point five 745 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 3: kilometers sensational. And they've got a cricket team called the 746 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 3: Dell Boys Cricket Club and the game was at Wan'sworth Common, 747 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, absolutely brilliant. Like re ran past the Tower Bridge, 748 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,479 Speaker 3: Big ben Batasy power Station, London Eye, kind of along 749 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 3: the banks of the Thames there, So absolutely sensational. It 750 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 3: did make me think about the longest run up that 751 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 3: I've ever seen, and for me it was Michael Holding 752 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 3: at I think it was Ash Burton playing for Canterbury. 753 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 3: My god, it was long and it was scary and 754 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 3: it was silky and it was smooth and it was frightening. 755 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: Yes, I was going to say Michael Holding he was terrifying. 756 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 757 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: And he had a real glide, didn't It was a glide. 758 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 2: Beautiful sprinter's kind of action. And Bob Willis was probably 759 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 2: the longest I saw a poky park and you put 760 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 2: him with playing for England. He really had to start 761 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 2: as run up off the bank, very small ground poker park, 762 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 2: but it was it blew me away. I was just 763 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 2: a young kid at the time. I thought, wow, that's 764 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 2: and he was bustling. He was kind of all arms 765 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 2: and yes, yahoun around that weird action that he had 766 00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 2: so good. 767 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 3: Dylan and Free Truman famously said about Bob Willis's run 768 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 3: up that he said, christ, I don't go that far 769 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 3: in my holidays. 770 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 1: It's interesting in terms of the run up because it 771 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: just seems a little bit over the top of you. 772 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: If you had got a massive one, it seems like 773 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,720 Speaker 1: you know. Of course, with the controversy with Richard Hadley 774 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: and his long run up and everyone you know, and 775 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: then he played county cricket and went, oh geez, I 776 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: can't carry on with us for everyone when to shortened 777 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: my run up until he got back to New Zealand 778 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: and even went, oh no, you can't do that, and 779 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: he knew better, but he went back to it at 780 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 1: the end, didn't he. 781 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 2: It was part of the guess, the bristling mckismo of 782 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 2: fast bowling back in those days. I mean, yes, Lily's 783 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 2: original run up was extraordinary long as well. And yeah, 784 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 2: I mean YouTube is just an incredible, incredibly rich place 785 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 2: for old cricket videos at the moment. I've been watching 786 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 2: highlights of series from the sixties and seventies in England 787 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 2: and watch how cricket has changed. I mean, it is fantastic. 788 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 2: In fact, I should bring a few links along to 789 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 2: our subscriber. 790 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 3: I've got one for everyone to google, including you guys, 791 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 3: The eight Z of New Zealand Fast Bowlers. But obviously 792 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 3: it was only up to about the mid nineteen nineties, 793 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 3: so it's got Willie Watson and Studio Z of their 794 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 3: run ups. Very very good, highly recommend it. 795 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, well listen everyone, thanks for taking the time 796 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: to listen to our podcast. Hopefully we'll be well. We 797 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: will be back the same time, same place next week 798 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: with some good news fellas. Hey, fingers crossed. 799 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, till then you kind of put a downer on 800 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 2: it for me. Oh, I remain optimistic. 801 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Jason meant about the seasons, some good 802 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 3: news about the seasons. 803 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, of course we've switched over to spring 804 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 2: in a couple of days. 805 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we do, we do. Hey, it's been a pleasure. 806 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: We'll see you soon.