1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: The issues is the interviews and the insight. Andrew dickens 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: on early edition with one roof make your property search simple, 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: use talks. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: It'd be he's good morning to you and welcome to 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: your Wednesday. Rain is coming farmers. More of this is 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: just a few months time, but brain is certainly coming 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 2: coming over the next sixty minutes. It's a return to 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: personal responsibility landowners who will no longer be held liable 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: for recreational accidents on their farm. We'll cover the story 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: in five. Enios is off the All Backs Jersey, so 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: who could be honored in the future that story. In ten, 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: we'll discuss whether Shakespeare is still relevant in the school 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 2: curriculum in twenty twenty five and the America's cup of Sale. 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 2: So what do we do wrong? What can we do 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: better in the future. We'll talk to viv Beck just 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: before six we'll have that story. We'll have correspondence around 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: New Zealand. From around New Zealand, we'll talk to Gavin 18 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: Gray out of the UK. And you can have your 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: say by giving me a text. And the number is 20 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: ninety two ninety two. A small charge applies. It's seven 21 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: after five. 22 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: The agenda well it's been to. 23 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: Say the second of April, and millions of voters head 24 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: to the polls in America today for the special elections 25 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: Wisconsin supreme courts up for grabs and two congressional seats 26 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 2: in Florida as well. Some say the race is less 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,919 Speaker 2: about the court and more about a referendum on Elon Musk. 28 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: And this was Elon at a rally a few nights ago. 29 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 3: You want to restore individual freedoms, freedom of speech, just 30 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 3: in general, get the government off your back. So and 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: then make sure that you succeed in the United States 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: as a function of your hard work and your talent. 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: Elon Musk and staying in the United States, it's an 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: anxious weight for world leaders. With details of Trump's tariffs 35 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: are still largely unknown and being announced lated today, Global 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: markets have been volatile as investors prepare for a massive 37 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: slate of import taxes, and the European Union says we're 38 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: ready to retaliate. 39 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 4: If need be. We will protect our interests, our people 40 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: and our companies. Europe has not started this confrontration. We 41 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 4: do not necessarily want to retaliate, but if it is necessary, 42 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 4: we have a strong plan to retaliate. 43 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 5: And we will use it. 44 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: And I'll talk more about that in the moment. And 45 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: finally to France, where the far right has called for 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: nationwide demonstrations against the court decision to ban Molleene La 47 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: Penn from public office for five years. President of the 48 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: party Jordan Bdella has ruled out replacing her. He says 49 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: the French people will be outraged. Remember the Pen was 50 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: found guilty for embezzling European funds to finance her party. 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: She's going to appeal. 52 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 6: That the system has taken out its nuclear bomb and 53 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 6: it's using such a powerful weapon against us. It's, of course, 54 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 6: because we're about to win the election. Let me be clear, 55 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 6: we will not let the presidential election be stolen from 56 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 6: the French. 57 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: As we're in La Pen and it is nine up to. 58 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: Five on your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition, 59 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your Property Search Simple 60 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: Youth Talks. 61 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: Said, be good morning. So today, April second has been 62 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: called Liberation Day in the United States. It's a name 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: coined by the president. A spokesman for Donald Trump is 64 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: said that the president will be announcing a tariff plan 65 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: that will roll back the unfair trade practices that have 66 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: been ripping off their country for decades, and he's doing 67 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: this in the best interests of American workers, and I 68 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: believe him. I think he believes that he is doing 69 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: the best thing for the American worker. The American manufacturing 70 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: powerhouse has been depowered by the outsourcing of labor to 71 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: cheaper markets, and then those markets went learned from the 72 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: jobs given them, and then they develop their own products 73 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: that are better and cheaper than anything America can now create, 74 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: taking away the jobs from American workers. So making overseas 75 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: manufactured products more expensive in the American market should herd 76 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: Americans back to their home produced stuff. Well, that's the theory, 77 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: and in my heart I can approve, because how many 78 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: times have we said kind of the same thing, how 79 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: many times have we launched by New Zealand campaigns. But 80 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: whether this will work and strengthen American manufacturers and the 81 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: pocket of workers is another thing entirely, because it's a 82 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: bit like trying to refloat the Titanic when three quarters 83 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: of it is already underwater. America, remember, was not forced 84 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 2: to use and buy Chinese or European or Canadian, or 85 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: Mexican or Asian stuff in labor, their CEOs, their businesses. 86 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: Americans chose it willingly in an environment of globalism and 87 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: free trade agreements, an environment that still exists in most 88 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: of the world now. The exemplar for this was Apple, 89 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: of course, they made their phones in China, designed in America, 90 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: made in China. I'm not sure how the American public 91 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: will react when all of a sudden they'll see a 92 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: twenty five percent increase in the price of their cell phones, 93 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: or their electronic equipment or their cars, because that's the 94 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: other thing. The tariffs are penalties on overseas countries, but 95 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 2: the penalties are paid by a men Americans if they 96 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: buy those products. Now, we have been through this before 97 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: when the European Union cut us out of their market, 98 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: and we learned then that the only thing you could 99 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: really do was to make things that were so good 100 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: the Europeans wanted them so badly that pay the extra 101 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: tax to get them. So no matter what happens today, 102 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: and we'll have full coverage here on news talks here 103 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: be the only thing in our control is to keep 104 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: on making the beef in the dairy that leads the 105 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: world in its quality. Because quality always wins and the 106 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: Europeans are thinking about retaliatory actions. I wouldn't suggest that 107 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: for New Zealand. I wouldn't go tit for tat because 108 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: we're just too small to play that game. Count dicks 109 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: twelve minutes out of five. And speaking about global trade, 110 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: the global dairy trade auction happened overnight. Dairy prices up 111 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 2: one point one percent. They're still away off their highs 112 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: that was back in twenty twenty one. Butter is down 113 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: one point two percent, whole milk powder virtually unchanged, and 114 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: the biggest mover is skim milk powder up five point 115 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: nine percent, and that's good for our trade with China. Meanwhile, 116 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 2: the more farming news scatter rain in the forecast today, 117 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: but even better than that is the widespread rain which 118 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: is forecast on Thursday and Friday. That's great news for farmers, 119 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: particularly north of Topa, because have a look at the 120 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: farms at the moment, they are like, well, they look 121 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:28,679 Speaker 2: like parched bone dickens, all right. So and again keeping 122 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: with the farmers, it's your show this morning. At least 123 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: at the beginning, landowners will not be legally responsible for 124 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: recreational activities they permit on their land from now on. 125 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: So if you're going for a bike ride, going for 126 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: a ramble you and you hurt yourself, you break your leg, well, 127 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 2: it's not the landowner's fault, it's your fault. Return to 128 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: personal safety. So we'll talk about this with the deer 129 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: stalkers in just a few moments time. It's thirteen a 130 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: half to five on NEWSTALKSB. 131 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: News and Views You Trust to start your day. It's 132 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make your 133 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: Property Search Simple You Talk Sivvy. 134 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: Five point fifteen Stevens text of Beeing says, in some 135 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: ways Trump is right to have free trades. You need 136 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: a level playing field like minimum tax rates and minimum 137 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: wages and robust health and safety rules and visa free travel. 138 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: And I get that, and yes, you're right in some 139 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: ways Trump is right. But when you're the only country 140 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: doing it and everybody else is free trading all over 141 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: the place and globalizing all over the place, there's a 142 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: big risk it's all in or all out, really, isn't it. 143 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what do you think? You can text 144 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: ninety two ninety two and by the way, compulsory Shakespeare 145 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: for years ten to thirteen senior secondary school students. Is 146 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: this do you agree? Is it still relevant in twenty 147 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: twenty five to have a Shakespeare text every year year 148 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: ten to thirteen. You can text on that as well. 149 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: And I'll talk about this soon. It's sixteen after five. 150 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: So the government continues their announcements around health and safety, 151 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: and this time they reassured landowners that they will not 152 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: be legally responsible for recreational activities they prevent on their 153 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: land and their hope is for liability to fall solely 154 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: on the business or the individual using the land. And 155 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: Gwyn Thurlough is the CEO of the New Zealand dest 156 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: Walkers Association and has got up early. In fact, it 157 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: probably isn't early for you, good and you probably get 158 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: up at this time all the time. Hello, yeah, good. 159 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 7: It's about the early rising time for a good hunter 160 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 7: that's keen to get out there at first flight. 161 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I saw yesterday you held this as a return 162 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: to personal responsibility, which is something we've abandoned in recent years. 163 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 7: Absolutely. Yeah, this is exactly what that is. And we've 164 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 7: had the work Safe action against landowners for accidents not 165 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 7: in their control under the two thousand and fifteen Acts 166 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 7: sort of creep into the space of recreation. It was 167 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 7: intended for workers and keeping workers safe, and some of 168 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 7: the government agencies and the land owners forestry blocks used 169 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 7: it to exclude recreation and they just didn't want the 170 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 7: risk of having people on their land. 171 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, denying us mountain biking tracks and all sorts of things. 172 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: Much has this liability that existed beforehand halted recreational activities 173 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: around New Zealand. 174 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 7: It certainly shutgate. It certainly made landowners and corporate landowners 175 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 7: and particularly hesitant. Some of our you know, big farms 176 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 7: and accesslades are now not just owned by Mum and 177 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 7: dad farmers who you knew years ago down the road 178 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 7: just you know, speak to Steve and he'll let you in. 179 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 7: It created bureaucracy. For example, we solved it for our 180 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 7: members by taking out a ten million dollar liability policy 181 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 7: to ease the pain on some of those corporate types 182 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 7: letting people through or on their land. So it certainly 183 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 7: had cost implications, paperwork admin and for clubs like hunting 184 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 7: clubs or tramping clubs, it puts a lot of admin 185 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 7: on the organizers of trips to do paperwork and risk assessments. 186 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 7: It's just a bit like everything. It's turned a lot 187 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 7: of things into a bureaucracy and recreation shouldn't be about that. 188 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: Okay. Now, do landowners now have absolutely no responsibility? Because 189 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: there was arguments in the courts about for curry White Island, 190 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: the owners of the land there should have known perhaps 191 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 2: that the volcano could explode and could have warned people that, 192 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: you know, my land's a bit dangerous right now. But 193 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: do they have absolutely no responsibility now? 194 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 7: No, they certainly will have responsibility. They'll have responsibility for 195 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 7: their business activities. So if there're a farmer, they're farming. 196 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 7: If there a forestry company as forestry workers and the 197 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 7: structures around their business. But if we're just going out 198 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 7: the back blocks to access some fishing or go to 199 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 7: Hiker Mountain, that's a dock block that backs onto a 200 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 7: private land and we're walking through, that's where they shouldn't 201 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 7: be liable. But as always, they're going to have to 202 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 7: identify hazards and do things safely themselves. But it means that, 203 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 7: for example, if I'm taking a group of people through 204 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 7: their land on a walk, that I will be responsible 205 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 7: for that walking activity. It's got nothing to do with 206 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 7: farming or forestry. It's just recreating. 207 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: Okay, Gwynn, happy hunting and thank you so much for 208 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: joining us. That is Gwynn Thurlow, who is the CEO 209 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: of the New Zealand d Stalker's Association. So Jim Ratcliffe 210 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: paid up to the All Blacks and even gave him 211 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 2: a little bit more. But now Ineos is going to 212 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: be off the jerseys. So what have we learned from 213 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: that and what can we do going forward? And who 214 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: might want to be on the jersey. We'll talk about 215 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: this in a few moments time with a fellow who 216 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: used to run Sachi and Sachi so he knows his branding. 217 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on a billion edition with one roof to 218 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: make your Property search simple, Youth Dog Zibby. 219 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: Five twenty two. Well New Zealand Rugby and Ineos their 220 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: sponsorship feud has officially ended in the High Court. New 221 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: Zealand Rugby took the petrochemical company to task Ineos when 222 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: terminated a twenty one million dollar a year deal with 223 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: the All Blacks brand. It's believed that Jim Racliffe, the 224 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: billionaire and the owner of Inios, has now paid what 225 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: it owed the twenty twenty five deal. So that's good 226 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: and even off at a small additional payment on top. 227 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 7: So. 228 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: Mike Hutchinson is a marketing expert. He is a former 229 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: managing director of Sachi and Sachi and despite being an 230 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: advertising he's up early too. Good morning to you, Mike. 231 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 8: I was just saying to your producer, I got working 232 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 8: early to cat jump on the bed and then followed 233 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 8: by the dog, the dogs of Bernie's mountain dog, you 234 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 8: know when she jumps on the bed. 235 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, very good. 236 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 8: Are you? 237 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 2: Are you surprised that New Zealand Raby did so well 238 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: out of the court battle? 239 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 8: I think in the end it's probably quite benevisual and 240 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 8: assuming that I could pick up the right kind of 241 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 8: replacement sponsorship, I think they didn't do too badly. 242 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So where are we going from here? And what 243 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: lessons should we learn from all of this if we're 244 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: looking for someone to replace Inios Because we thought that 245 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: in the Os was going to be great. It was huge. 246 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: Gym was rich and they have the money and they 247 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: were proud of it all. And yeah there were some dodgings, 248 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: you know, looks about it because it was a petrochemical company. 249 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: But we thought this is good, this is going to 250 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: be a regular income. Who should we be going for him? 251 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 8: Well, sadly, they probably need to replace it with something 252 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 8: like inios, I mean even ultra d of course who 253 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 8: are in a sponsored locally are were the more an 254 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 8: infrastructure and some chemicals. But you need to chase somebody 255 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 8: like a Jim Radcliffe or a Aldred who can make 256 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 8: a call. If you're going to chase after a big corporation, 257 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 8: you have to get buy in from everyone down the line, 258 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 8: including a board of directors and some one. So it's 259 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 8: best to go after an organization is run by someone 260 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 8: perhaps even autocratic, but who can make a call quite quickly. 261 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 8: And sadly that the numbers are very very small. We're 262 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 8: a tiny country in the bottom righting cord of the world. 263 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 8: We're not well up there, certainly not in the States. 264 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 8: The big the big players are in the States, and 265 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 8: you've got to look hard to find someone who can 266 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 8: afford this spont to the orblex. 267 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: So so you're saying that the all Blacks Jersey is 268 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: really a vanity investment, someone who just like kids. 269 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 8: I reckon. I reckon because I'm sure, but see someone 270 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 8: like Altrad. I think they're into infrastructure, scaffolding, petrochemical stuff. 271 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 8: They build plants, they build big things, and I can 272 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 8: imagine the halo effect of that for Ultrad is terrific. 273 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 8: And I think that Altred himself, I think it was 274 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 8: educated in France. He probably knows about the power of 275 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 8: rugby and sprinting in France and in Europe, and so 276 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 8: it's probably quite a good mix. But that's the kind 277 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 8: of person you're going to go after. You're not going 278 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 8: to go after one of the big banks. You're not 279 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 8: going to go after Microsoft or. 280 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: Mike. Very good, thank you so much for your experctis 281 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: and going for the cat and the dog right now. 282 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: And now they've got to give a new sponsor in 283 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: a very short space of time. And it's interesting. Is 284 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: the all Backs brand still syllable? As Mike said, you know, 285 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: it's not a big game in American Shakespeare. How do 286 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: you feel about Shakespeare being compulsory? Years ten to thirteen 287 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: I talk about this next it's News Talks. 288 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: The earlier thisition in full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 289 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: by News talksb New SALZB. 290 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: It is five twenty seven, so the draft year seven 291 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: to thirteen English Curriculum. Okay, Matt yesterday, and it proposes 292 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: compulsory Shakespeare for senior secondary school students. You're going to 293 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: have to do one of the plays you attend to thirteen. 294 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: That provoked a bit of a debate about the relevance 295 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: of Shakespeare in this day and age. Now, Shakespeare is 296 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: obviously very very important, but is it essential? Because even 297 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: when I was at secondary school, which is a very 298 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: long time ago, now forty five years ago, Shakespeare was 299 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: not popular amongst students. One year, we were studying Hamlet. 300 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: So the school, a major school in Auckland, Grammar School. 301 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: The school organized an afternoon matinee of the play and 302 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: it happened at the Mercury Theater. So we all got 303 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: on buses and we turned up to the Mercury Theater 304 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: and we were so rowdy that a young Michael Hurst, 305 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: who was playing the Danish Prince, commented that this is 306 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: the worst audience I have ever encountered in the theater. 307 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: A whole theater full of boys hating Hamlet. We didn't 308 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: even calm down during the sword fights. However, that did 309 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: not happen when we studied more modern texts like Arthur 310 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: Miller's Death of a Salesman or even Thomas Becket's Murder 311 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: in the Cathedral, Because I'll tell you why those plays 312 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: use language. We understood. Those plays had themes we could 313 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: relate to, as Shakespeare did not. To teach, you must engage. 314 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: And much in all as we bemoan the fall of 315 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: Shakespeare amongst the young, he's still so strong that his 316 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: influence of the modern world will not fail. So what 317 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: will engage the kids? And I really don't know. This 318 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: generation is less engaged in all sorts of stuff than 319 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: ever so much so I had to explain who Bob 320 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: Geldoff was to my twenty six year old son the 321 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: other day. And speaking of rock and roll, I'll tell 322 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: you the most engagement I ever had at school was 323 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: when my Engish teacher said we should study the lyrics 324 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: of David Bowie's song Time from the Aladdinsane album. And 325 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: we loved it and we got into in depth. And 326 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: let's remember, here's another thing. In twenty sixteen, Bob Dylan 327 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: won the Nobel Prize in Literature. Would anyone mind if 328 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: he was added to the curriculum. I don't think so. 329 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: So what do you think by the way. I also 330 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: see the new curriculum says that spelling and keyboard lessons 331 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: for children at intermediate schools should be compulsory. You mean 332 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: that not already? How do I can survive in this 333 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: modern world? 334 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens, all. 335 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: Right, America's Cup. I've got some thoughts about the America's Cup, 336 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 2: and I've got Vive Beck before six. You've got Early Edition. 337 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridge. This is News Talks. 338 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 5: It be. 339 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: The first word on the news of the day. Early 340 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: Edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof. Make your property 341 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: search simple, You. 342 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 6: Talks, it be. 343 00:17:50,840 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 9: No you uh fortune, every lovely rident, good body, gim. 344 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 2: Welcome to your Thursday. I thank you so much for listening, 345 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 2: but also for contributing by sitting in your texts to 346 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: Multi two ninety two small charge of Piers on Shakespeare 347 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: compulsory years ten to thirteen. I'm a sixty seven year 348 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: old retired professional with a good education. I am dead 349 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: again Shakespeare being a compulsory subject. I have not once 350 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 2: found a use for Shakespeare in my working or social 351 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: life since studying it. It's elitism. However, on the other hand, 352 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: I've also got a text from Marge March. Here is Shakespeare. 353 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: You know how you always know stuff in your job 354 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 2: which is really not used much or f at all. 355 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: Learning that stuff trains your brain to learn the little stuff, 356 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 2: and that training is useful overall. To the America's Cup 357 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: we go. There's no money for the America's Cup, no 358 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 2: public money and no kidding, there's not enough public money 359 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 2: for a lot of stuff, let alone a saving competition. 360 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: But that's comparing apples with oranges. To be fair, we're 361 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: in the era of need to haves, not nice to haves, 362 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: and you have to admit though that some to have 363 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: make us feel good, contribute to the sense of national 364 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: well being and confidence. We are gradually being priced out 365 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 2: of major events because we're small, We can't compete with 366 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: bums on seats, and our time zone is bad for 367 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: the international markets. We are not going to get the Olympics. 368 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: The Commonwealth Games appeared dead. The chances of getting the 369 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: Rugby World Cup again seem limited because of our small stadiums. 370 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: The Winter Games folded, thank God for sale GP. So 371 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: we had this link to one big event. Why are 372 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: we letting it go? It fits the government's agenda for 373 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: New Zealand as being good for high end tourism, sponsoring 374 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: innovation and manufacturing and technology, stimulating restaurants and hospitality. And 375 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: of course it says yes instead of no, which the 376 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: government would like us to say more often. It's upset 377 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: a lot of people. This cause for a better funding 378 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: model so we can put our hands up for these things. 379 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: This is a global event that landed in our laps 380 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: and it makes the country feel good, even if we 381 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: don't give U stuff about sailing and what is wrong 382 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: with one nice to have just to make the country 383 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: feel that we're not an irrelevant And I got an 384 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 2: email from Andy Fromkrastiach who said the America's Cup what 385 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: a wasted opportunity to invest in a money maker for Auckland, 386 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 2: bringing in tourism in a long term build up gone 387 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 2: from Auckland as this government is afraid to spend in 388 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: anything money to make money. And I thought Christopher Luxman 389 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: was a businessman. And Andy's last words is if you 390 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: don't invest, you don't make any money. Twenty one to 391 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 2: six seconds around the country. We go into Dunedin and 392 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: it's good morning to calm proctive morning, heln morning. Andrew 393 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: so we've been hearing about it on the telenews. The 394 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: data states of healthcare in Otago here. 395 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 10: This is Health Action Wanaka who have issued this report 396 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 10: shedding light on the dire state of healthcare in the 397 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 10: Upper Kluther region. It's found that there's significant unmet needs 398 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 10: there following a consultation with the community. The report shows 399 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 10: young people are being turned away from mental health services, 400 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 10: elderly and pregnant residents are having to travel to Dunedan 401 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 10: due to a lack of local facilities. Youth Services Providers 402 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 10: ADL Chief Executive Clive MacArthur says there's things like telehealth 403 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 10: services maybe one solution as Uppercluther is very isolated. The 404 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 10: Health Minister, Simon Brown's asked officials for advice on this 405 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 10: report and says he's looking forward to the recommendations. 406 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 2: How's Dindi's weather, chance of a light shower through the 407 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: day today? And seventeen Claise here, we're from christ Church. 408 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: Good morning to you. 409 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 11: Good morning. 410 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: So the Council is looking at the draft annual plan 411 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: and a lot of Cantabrians have had their say, yeah, 412 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: quite a few. 413 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 12: Anyway, we do know that the response rate is not 414 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 12: great on consultation for these things, Andrew, But councilors are 415 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 12: going to begin considering more than one thousand submissions on 416 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 12: the draft annual plan here in christ Church today. The 417 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 12: Council here is proposing a combined one point five billion 418 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 12: dollars on day to day services and capital works. In 419 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 12: this plan, there's an average rate rise proposed of seven 420 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 12: point five to eight percent. Now, the Council will hear 421 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 12: directly from one hundred groups and individuals, with hearing beginning today. 422 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 12: Mayor Film Major says transport, parks and rates affordability are 423 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 12: the issues that gained the most attention during the consultation phase. 424 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 12: He says counselors will vow to consider every single bit 425 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 12: of feedback. 426 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: Hous Canterbury's weather Patrie. 427 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 12: Drizzle clearing early this afternoon, but will remain cloudy, northeasterlyies 428 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 12: and the high of seventeen. 429 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 2: Max told joins you from Wellington. Hello, Max, good morning. 430 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: Talk to me about the Mayor's business group. 431 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 13: Yes, so, there are documents that our reporter Ethan Minira 432 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 13: has tracked down that shine a light on why two 433 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 13: members of the Wellington Mayor's high profile business group abruptly 434 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 13: quit last year Tory. Fino established the group in part, 435 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 13: at least account of the narrative that she and the 436 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 13: council weren't listening to business at Willis Bond developer Mark 437 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 13: McGuinness he was one of them. His sudden exit came 438 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 13: in the form of an email we have now received 439 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 13: which criticizes the Golden Mild pedestrian works. He says tens 440 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 13: of millions of dollars would be far, but has spent 441 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 13: directly targeting safety and homelessness, and he believes the group 442 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 13: isn't doing enough to alleviate the high cost of doing 443 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 13: business in Wellington. A fellow group member who's still a 444 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 13: group member, who works in property, echoes those concerns, saying 445 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 13: there's a lack of public appetite for a massive roading 446 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 13: project and fears businesses will die as it's carried out, 447 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 13: not surviving long enough to see its benefits. Afino says 448 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 13: some members of her group do support the Golden Miles, 449 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 13: some don't. She insists, still businesses are being listened to. 450 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: Okay, how's Wellington's weather? 451 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 13: Mostly cloudy, afternoon, fine breaks southerleast twenty. 452 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: And never ready. Man who joins me from walkanhell. 453 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 11: Greetings. 454 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 2: So Polyfisk gets underway today. This is the world's largest 455 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: Maori and Pacific Island festival. 456 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 11: Correct end. It's celebrating fifty years today. So we've got 457 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 11: seventy seven schools that's from across the region taking part, 458 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 11: alongside five from outside the city and two groups coming 459 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 11: from Australia as well. So a crowd of about injury 460 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 11: seventy five thousand people that's expected over the next four days. 461 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 11: Pretty good the event. That's come a long way from 462 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 11: only four schools performing back in the day fifty years ago. 463 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 11: So the speech competition is also growing in numbers, as 464 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 11: is the online audience watching from overseas. 465 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: I've been to one. I went to one at the 466 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: Monico Sports Bowl and it was it was spine tingling. 467 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: It was magnificent. It's like the Junior Kappa Haka World Championships. 468 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 2: It's so good. 469 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 14: Yea, how's it still there? 470 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 11: Two at the Monico Sports good? 471 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: Well, how's orsa? 472 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 8: Well? 473 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 11: We've got cloudy conditions today, isolated chows mainly from afternoon 474 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 11: high twenty three, but the rain is coming for Auckland 475 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 11: over the next three or four days. 476 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: Everybody quite right, Thursday and Friday Saturday. It comes a 477 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 2: bit right. Congratulations farmers, you're welcome. It is seven to six, 478 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: seventeen to six. Another text through Andrew. I have to 479 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: say I'm getting quite annoyed at the constant references to 480 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: the two billion dollar benefit to the Barcelona economy from 481 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: the America's Cup. It's a half truth. The factors. It's 482 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: bloody easy for the European rich listers to sell their 483 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: luxury boats around the corner, and it's only an hour 484 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: or two's flight. Compare that to the same people wanting 485 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 2: to come right round the world to New Zealand. You're 486 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: buddy dreaming. Here's my text. We absolutely should not fund this. 487 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: We can't even afford our current debt, so why should 488 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: we do this? Seventy five million, by the way, is 489 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: that a big price. We're going to talk to Vi 490 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: Beck about this just before six, But next it's Gavin 491 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: Gray out of the UK on Liberation Day with news 492 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: Talk ZB. So if you're looking for a nice place 493 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,239 Speaker 2: to retire in Auckland, you'll be hard pressed to fight 494 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 2: a nicer spot then Saint hell he Is and Hele's 495 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 2: has beautiful beaches, has great cafes, lovely little library and 496 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: it's a great lifestyle there. 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That's 512 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 2: the Heallier h e l I Eer dot co dot 513 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 2: n Z. 514 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: International correspondence with NZI Eye Insurance Peace of Mind for 515 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: New Zealand business. 516 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: So it is a liberation day today in the United 517 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: States of America, where Donald Trump announces the tariffs. He says, 518 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: it's going to be historic. There will be no tariffs 519 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: if you make in America, he says. So let's go 520 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: to the to Europe right now, to Gavin Gray out 521 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 2: of the UK oneing to you, Gavin, hither Andrew with 522 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: liberation on the way. The UK and the EU are 523 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: already plotting their own responses to Trump's planned tariffs. 524 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 5: They are. The UK seems much more sort of at 525 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,959 Speaker 5: peace with it, suggesting they will if they think it's necessary, 526 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 5: take tariffs as well, approach that the EU, who is 527 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 5: saying they are much more likely to do. And the 528 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 5: reason is that the UK is hoping they're going to 529 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 5: be able to negotiate a trade deal sooner rather than later. 530 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 5: And if they don't retaliate, they believe that that'll please 531 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 5: Donald Trump and therefore they may get some sort of 532 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 5: a better deal than if they do either way, these 533 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 5: high stakes. The EU saying it's going to considerably knock 534 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 5: their manufacturing base, particularly the big two economies Germany and France. 535 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 5: The UK well known to be saying that this could 536 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 5: knock the British economy by one percent in the worst 537 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 5: case scenario if an all out trade walk took place. 538 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 5: But the UK, I think already not taking action over 539 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 5: the steel and aluminium tariffs. Instead, it's waiting to see 540 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 5: what's been said. At times, Donald Trump suggested that because 541 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 5: the UK has a similar export to the US's import, 542 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 5: in other words, there's not a great trade imbalance, that 543 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 5: they might escape the trade taxes. And then the next 544 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 5: minute Donald Trump is no, he is going to put 545 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 5: the UK in with the EU and the worldwide tariff. 546 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 5: So we're simply waiting to find out. 547 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 2: Now, this is an epislater on this afternoon, and now 548 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: unrisked in France, says Marine Lapin can't run for political 549 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: office for the next five years. 550 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 5: No, that's right. So she, along with others of her 551 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 5: National Rally party, have been found guilty of embezzling roughly 552 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 5: five and a half million New Zealand dollars of EU 553 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 5: funds for use in France by her own party. Now, 554 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 5: among the sentencing is that she can't run for political 555 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 5: office for five years, and that is devastating for her 556 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 5: because there is a presidential election in twenty twenty seven 557 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 5: and she at the moment in the opinion polls is 558 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 5: the front runner. At least she was now she is 559 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 5: getting to appeal that sentence, but it just goes to 560 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 5: show the height of feeling now in France, with some 561 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 5: saying that they believe democracy is at stake. The far 562 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 5: right leader Jordan Bardea. He has now called on people 563 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 5: to rally in the center of Paris on Sunday, saying 564 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 5: that they need to overturn this decision, and also Marine. 565 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 5: Le Penn has received support from the Deputy Prime Minister 566 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 5: of Italy, Mattio Salva, who said we are not intimidated. 567 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 5: Full speed ahead. He's the hardline right wing candidate there. 568 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 5: The Populist Builders of the Netherlands largest political party, another 569 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 5: right winger, said that lo Penn would win her appeal 570 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 5: and that she would be France's next president and also 571 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 5: the prime minister. Controversial Prime Minister of Hungary Victor Auburn, 572 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 5: also saying support for her with josuis marine in other words, 573 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 5: I am marine, So lots of support for her, but 574 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 5: will she get that overturned? 575 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: Kevin Gray and I thank you. It is now nine 576 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: minutes to six. 577 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickins, all right. 578 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: We're not getting the America's cup orkandun Limited yesterday announced 579 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: it's not going any further because the government won't put 580 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 2: any money in seventy five million. They say, how did 581 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: the city CEO of vic joins me? Now, Hi, vic Vivo. 582 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: A lot of people, a lot of people upset about 583 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: the same an opportunity wasted. Do you believe that? 584 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 15: Yeah, well, yes, that's exactly what we said. To be honest, 585 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 15: it is a golden opportunity list. 586 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: But it's seventy five million dollars and we are poor 587 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: right now? What do you say to that? 588 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 15: But remember when we spoke a few weeks ago, I 589 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 15: talked about how much effort has gone into raising the 590 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 15: importance of major events and alternative forms of funding. So 591 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 15: I think the biggest disappointment is that there has been 592 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 15: from us and many others of significant effort gone into 593 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 15: saying that we do need to find alternative ways. Suggestions 594 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 15: were made, and this opportunity. The reason it's so disappointing 595 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 15: is it's right for the picking. I mean, we've got 596 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 15: the infrastructure, the economic benefits would be there, and if 597 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 15: there had been quicker action on finding alternative funding, I 598 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 15: mean we understand that there are other priorities of government, 599 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 15: but growth is also a big opportunity, a big priority, 600 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 15: and you know the reality is that the gest alone 601 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 15: could pay for that money. So I think with some 602 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 15: imagination and will and determination it would have been it 603 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 15: could have been a different result. 604 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: And it's not just an auckland and a sailing topic. 605 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: Steve armatatsrom hospitality in New Zealand says we need a 606 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: nationwide strategy to attract events instead of our piecemeal region 607 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: by regional approach or event by event approach. 608 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 8: Do you agree absolutely? 609 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 15: I mean, I think the look, we've got a lot 610 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 15: of great work going on in that space, and there's 611 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 15: a lot of expertise, so I don't want to knock 612 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 15: the work that is done for the limited funding. But 613 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 15: we know we don't compete internationally now often we don't. 614 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 15: We're a small country. 615 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 5: We get that. 616 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 15: But I think we do have to have the energy 617 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 15: and drive and will to try and find ways to 618 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 15: actually grow this because you know we do. Events are 619 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 15: a great way of attracting people here. It's not just 620 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 15: a one time wonder that people come and have a 621 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 15: great time. I mean the benefits from from trade and jobs, 622 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 15: international profile. You look at Barcelona. I mean, imagine if 623 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 15: we had that in twenty when he said something along 624 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 15: those lines at a time where we really do need 625 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 15: to have something that actually excites people that we literally 626 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 15: are growing and not just full of problems. 627 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: Verve Beck and I thank you so much for getting 628 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: up earlier. It was seven minutes to sexist news Talk set. 629 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: B get ahead of the headlines on early edition, Andrew 630 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: Dickens and one Room, Make your Property Search Simple news 631 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: talks It. 632 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: Be so or the Shakespeare and all this America's cups thing. 633 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: This last thing I want to say the Malory Party 634 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: refusing to appear in front of the Parliamentary Privileged Committee 635 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: over their hocker in the House and they claim the 636 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 2: process has been disrespectful to Maori tikanger. Can I remind 637 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: the Maori Party that the Privileged Committee is part of 638 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: European tickanger and they're disrespecting it. And what source for 639 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: the Goose's source for the gander? So why don't they 640 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 2: just turn up and argue their point, because isn't that 641 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: their job? You go to Parliament and you argue your 642 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: cause not to boycott it? Is this racial hypocrisy and 643 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: Mike Hosking, I see you're talking to Graham Edula today. Yeah, 644 00:32:59,520 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: I am. 645 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 14: And the thing about the Privileges Committee, I'm not sure 646 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 14: how many people follow this. The Privileges Committee is tremendously 647 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 14: powerful and can throw you in jail, and they have 648 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 14: the ability to do all sorts of things they never do, 649 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 14: and so the interface at the moment is whether they'll 650 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 14: actually do anything because they can, and they can summons you. 651 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 14: They haven't been summoned yet. Normally you're invited along and 652 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 14: you say sorry or whatever. So and Henery did that 653 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,239 Speaker 14: the other day. He said sorry because he was part 654 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 14: of the original thing. So anyway, they're doing what the 655 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 14: married party does. And it's the ball I guess is 656 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 14: in the Privileges Committee's court to go, Well, if we 657 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 14: don't do something here, we're going to look inept. 658 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: Didn't they dock the pay of the mint? 659 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 13: Yes, she did. 660 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 14: The young lady got docked, so she's been partially That's 661 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 14: why the married party you're arguing double jeopardy on this one. 662 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 14: But and they wanted to be heard together. It's just 663 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 14: the usual, you know, if you start taking them seriously. 664 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 14: So anyway, the balls in their court will talk about 665 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 14: that a little bit on the America's Cup because Mark 666 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 14: Mitchell happens to be on anyway, and he's the Minister 667 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 14: of Stress. Seventy five million, so over three years, which 668 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 14: is what it is, million a month. You're telling me 669 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 14: we don't have two million dollars a month that spend 670 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 14: there on fire that's been there on. 671 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 2: Thank you to Rochester Kenzie. My name is Andrew. I 672 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 2: can see you again tomorrow. 673 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 15: I have a great day. 674 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 675 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: to News Talks It be from five am weekdays, or 676 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio h