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Speaker 1: Heather due to Cela so AMW Zealand's new Chief Executive,

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Speaker 1: Nicol Ravishank, is only five days into the job and

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Speaker 1: already he's asking for a handout for them from the

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Speaker 1: government for regional roots. Here he is on Radio New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: If I can share it as an opinion, I think

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Speaker 2: there is a need for certain routes to have some

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Speaker 2: form of a subsidy. I'm sort of starting to refer

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Speaker 2: to it as a sort of situational subsidy.

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Speaker 1: Now, the situational subsidy would only operate when demand is

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Speaker 1: low because the economy isn't doing so well. Deputy Prime

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Speaker 1: Minister and act Party leader David Seymore's with us, Hi, David, Hey,

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Speaker 1: heither you into this idea?

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Speaker 2: No, you know, the government would have to consider this

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Speaker 2: very very carefully, as James Mega, the Associate Transport Minister,

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Speaker 2: is said, but it's one of those things that just

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Speaker 2: raises more questions than it answers. So when the economy

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Speaker 2: is not doing well, how well does there have to

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Speaker 2: be doing how much does the subsidy have to bring

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Speaker 2: the fares down? How frequent do the roots have to be?

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Speaker 2: All those questions end up being answered by politicians, and

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Speaker 2: then you don't have a chief executive running an airline anymore.

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Speaker 2: You have politicians running an airline because they're making the

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Speaker 2: pricing and scheduling decisions. And we've been down that track

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand was a complete disaster when it was

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Speaker 2: run by politicians. We don't want to go back to it.

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Speaker 1: I suspect he's doing this because he knows he's going

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Speaker 1: to have to shut some routes down shortly, and he

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Speaker 1: would rather that you copped the blame for saying no

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Speaker 1: to the subsidy, then he copped the blame for shutting

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Speaker 1: down the roots.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Well, you could speculate that I

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Speaker 2: was talking to his predecessor a while back. I said, mate,

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Speaker 2: I got to thank you. He said why, and I said, well,

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Speaker 2: the thing is I would have missed three flights last

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Speaker 2: week if only they are on time. But actually I

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Speaker 2: was absolutely fine. And my advice would be, look, you know,

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Speaker 2: start taking off and landing at the time that you advertise.

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Speaker 2: Work on all your basics of running a business rather

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Speaker 2: than getting into politics, because I don't think politicians trying

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Speaker 2: to run business is a very good idea. You look

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Speaker 2: at most of these politicians never made a dollar of

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Speaker 2: their own money and their life, why on earth would

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Speaker 2: you give them yours to invest? And I also don't

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Speaker 2: like the idea of business people trying to be politicians,

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Speaker 2: because often they do it for the private interest of

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Speaker 2: their company rather than the wider public interest.

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Speaker 1: Listen, what's this business with malatonin? I've been told that

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Speaker 1: malatonin has been only been allowed for over fifty five

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Speaker 1: year olds until recently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. We legalized it, which was the right

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Speaker 2: thing to do. It's one of those little changes you

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Speaker 2: can make that makes us a little bit more enjoyable

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Speaker 2: for no cost. And yet if Medsafe initially said, look,

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Speaker 2: you know this is only valid if you're over fifty five,

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Speaker 2: I said, that's just completely ridiculous. Medsafe themselves have told

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Speaker 2: us that the danger and side effects of malatonin are

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Speaker 2: comparable to panadole, which you can give to very small

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Speaker 2: children and buy it a supermarket. So, you know, we said,

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Speaker 2: go back and sharpen your pencils. I didn't actually realize

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Speaker 2: that they had already made the change. I knew they

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Speaker 2: were about to. If they have, and it's being sold

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Speaker 2: and anyone over eighteen can get malotonin for jet lag

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Speaker 2: and insomnia. Then happy Days, Happy Labor weekend for all

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Speaker 2: those who celebrate.

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Speaker 1: Finally we can, we can get our hands on it. David,

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Speaker 1: Thanks very much, David, seeing more deeply Prime ministers and

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Speaker 1: that nuts. You can get a politician to change, you

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Speaker 1: can vote the politician and get them to do what

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Speaker 1: they say they're going to do, and there'll be some

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Speaker 1: bureaucrat in Wellington who just stuffs around with it. Eight

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Speaker 1: And in this case it's mead safe over fifty five's

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