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Speaker 1: So we got the findings of Auckland's second annual State

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Speaker 1: of the City reports. So it compares the region's performance

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Speaker 1: with nine similar places around the world. We have stubbornly

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Speaker 1: low productivity, increasing unemployment, the cost of living and rising

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Speaker 1: inequality is letting us down. The report was done by

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Speaker 1: the UK based urban intelligent firm, the Business of Cities.

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Speaker 1: The managing director of doctor Tim moon And is, well,

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Speaker 1: there's Tim morning to you when we're dealing with things

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Speaker 1: like experience, prosperity and transport decline. Transport I get obviously,

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Speaker 1: what's experience decline? And how do you measure it?

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Speaker 2: Well, you measure it by things like what's the experience

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Speaker 2: of people when they come into the city center or

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Speaker 2: the CBD. Do people feel safe going to and from work,

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Speaker 2: traveling home late at night? What is the feeling of

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Speaker 2: not just being in the natural environment but in the

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Speaker 2: urban realm. And you measure it by people's perceptions, but

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Speaker 2: also measures about what things are happening, good and bad.

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Speaker 1: And when you talk about the slower COVID bounce back,

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Speaker 1: what literally do you mean by that?

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Speaker 2: Well, we mean that, of course Auckland more than nearly

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Speaker 2: every city of its size around the world was slower

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Speaker 2: to in effect re enter the global economy because of

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Speaker 2: all of the restraints, and therefore it is meant that

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Speaker 2: the return to tourism, the return of investment, the return

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Speaker 2: of business jobs, people who are mobile moving around has

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Speaker 2: been a bit slower. We expect that gap to bridge,

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Speaker 2: but it's still there two years on, and it means

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Speaker 2: that there's just a challenge about how to make sure

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Speaker 2: to get back on the front foot from.

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Speaker 1: The other cities the other nine. Are we an outlier

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Speaker 1: or are we broadly in the mix.

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Speaker 2: You're in the mix because Auckland's firstly an incredible city

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Speaker 2: in terms of how livable it is. Its reputation is

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Speaker 2: still pretty strong around the world, and all the investments

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Speaker 2: and things in the past, I think give it a

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Speaker 2: certain set of fundamentals that give it an advantage. But

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Speaker 2: the other cities increasingly in this group, but also particularly

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Speaker 2: in larger parts of the cities around the Asia Pacific

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Speaker 2: region and moving more quickly now, whether it's with more structure,

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Speaker 2: whether it's with really aggressively positioning themselves in the industries

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Speaker 2: that are going to grow new jobs, or whether it's

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Speaker 2: about positioning themselves so they're more attractive to people when

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Speaker 2: they're making choices about where to live, where to move,

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Speaker 2: where to visit. That's where I think Auckland's got room

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Speaker 2: to catch up.

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Speaker 1: And what's the best of the nine outside of well

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Speaker 1: good question?

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Speaker 2: I think in Europe it's Copenhagen of the other cities,

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Speaker 2: because it's made so much success not only being a connected,

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Speaker 2: walkable city, but also a usually prosperous city with some

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Speaker 2: of its major companies driving huge amounts of growth. And

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Speaker 2: then you'd say probably Vancouver in North America has done

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Speaker 2: a pretty good job of being both a having North

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Speaker 2: American innovation but with high high living standards and a

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Speaker 2: high level of equality relative to the rest of the region.

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Speaker 2: So those are the two to look to.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tim, appreciate you time very much, doctor Tim

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Speaker 1: Moon the Business of Cities Managing directors. So the cities

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Speaker 1: are Austin, Brisbane, Copenhagen, Dublin, Fokioka, Helsinki, Vancouver. I can't

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Speaker 1: even read my own writing for the other one in Portland,

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Speaker 1: so Leviv, who was it? Tel Aviv was to well done?

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it very much. Tim.

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