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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News.

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Speaker 2: Talks Be and as always here on Saturday mornings, we'd

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Speaker 2: like to kick off the little dose of Kevin Melaney

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Speaker 2: joined us now.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning, Francesca. Yes, I have run out

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Speaker 3: of patience. I have run out of patience. I ran

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Speaker 3: out of patience years ago when Naturally in New Zealand

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Speaker 3: held an open day at the Carpety Airport PA and

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Speaker 3: then the following week pulled out of so it was, yeah,

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Speaker 3: weird behavior.

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Speaker 2: Really, I'm a bit of a slow adapter, and I

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Speaker 2: am ridiculously loyal. I've been saying I'm going to leave

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Speaker 2: my bank as well for thirty five years. Kevin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm ridiculously loyal with the New Zealand. I thought

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Speaker 3: in the good old days, when they're putting out those

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Speaker 3: wonderful lads, I thought they were really my favorite New

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Speaker 3: Zealand firm. And things have just gone rapidly downhill, as

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Speaker 3: you pointed out. And at the same time, I think

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Speaker 3: jets that have lifted their acts so much, as you say,

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Speaker 3: they're so much cheaper on some clients. Definitely worth shopping

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Speaker 3: around now and.

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Speaker 2: Look, and I feel for anything on, because it does

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Speaker 2: look like a whole lot of completely unrelated issues have

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Speaker 2: all kind of come at them all at once. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's just been a very unfortunate sort of collision of

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of issues, and then you throw COVID

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Speaker 2: on top of it, so it is really difficult. I

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Speaker 2: just don't think they're going to get out of it

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Speaker 2: in a hurry unfortunately. Anyway, let's talk about some edgy

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Speaker 2: art that you recently gave.

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Speaker 3: On the Higher Matters No Pleasure on the Saturday, because

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Speaker 3: I wanted to talk about art, which I suspect also

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Speaker 3: an interest of yours. I may be wrong, it is no.

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Speaker 2: It is. I do have a degree in art, has

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Speaker 2: and a few other things I've never got round to using.

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Speaker 3: This week I saw the huge and impressive Banksy exhibition

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Speaker 3: at the New Wellington Convention Center. Banks He's done some

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Speaker 3: sort of bad stuff that most people wouldn't approve of,

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Speaker 3: like one exhibition painting live animals, at another releasing two

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Speaker 3: hundred rats onto the floor just before the doors opened.

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Speaker 3: You could take your choice, go in or go home.

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Speaker 3: I'd have gone. I'd have gone home. Yet I discovered

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Speaker 3: at the art of Banksy the guy is so wonderfully talented,

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Speaker 3: almost has got a writer and ideas man as a

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Speaker 3: street artist. Funny enough, the week before I'd bought an

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Speaker 3: oil painting by a former New Zealand Krim Simon Kerr.

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Speaker 3: Simon was the leader of the Hole on the Wall

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Speaker 3: gang that broke into banks and rated atm Machines. He

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Speaker 3: also became famous for leading prisoner riots on the roof

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Speaker 3: of Mount Eden Jail. Simon did a long stretch in

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Speaker 3: prison where he discovered he had a talent for painting.

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Speaker 3: I think it works fabulous, and I couldn't resist buying

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Speaker 3: his portrait of himself as the pirate Blackbeard. Now this

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Speaker 3: large or painting in our hangs in our lounge, inviting

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Speaker 3: guests to put aside decorum and let fly with why

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Speaker 3: the hell have you got that painting of black Beard

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Speaker 3: in here? And why do you support ex bank robbers?

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Speaker 3: And so you've seen my link between him and Banksy

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Speaker 3: in a way. I don't know how you answer a

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Speaker 3: question like that. It's a question intended as a statement,

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Speaker 3: isn't it.

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask what the answer was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I had the answer here at the Banksy exhibition.

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Speaker 3: Banksy himself of quote no less than eleanor Roosevelt quote

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Speaker 3: the role of art is the comfort the disturbed and

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Speaker 3: disturbed the comfortable. Perfect. I reckon. If anyone comes to

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Speaker 3: our place and once to complain about the art, they

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Speaker 3: will hear the role of art is the comfort that

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Speaker 3: disturbed and disturbed the comfortable. Do you like that quote?

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Speaker 3: I do?

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Speaker 2: Which one is it doing more for you?

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Speaker 3: I'm actually, in a way, I'm slightly pleasantly surprised at

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Speaker 3: people's open attitude to that picture of Simon k It's

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Speaker 3: really a picture of black Beard. Have you seen that

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Speaker 3: bony chance? No?

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Speaker 2: I haven't. But I think the thing to remember is

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Speaker 2: that Simon's you know, his history, his story is really interesting.

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Speaker 2: But the art has to sort of speak for itself,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it. It has to be of you know, it has

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Speaker 2: to be. It's the work that matters. I suppose is

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Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say, is the backstory. And his

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Speaker 2: work is really stunning. I mean, I can't imagine what

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Speaker 2: it would be like the big scale, aren't they?

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Speaker 3: It was a hell of a harder I actually put

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Speaker 3: it on the I did a real man thing, you sol.

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Speaker 3: I was on my own and I just had it

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Speaker 3: framed with a large heavy frame, and I tried to

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Speaker 3: put it on the wall on the bums up and

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Speaker 3: managed to do it, but my back's now and it

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Speaker 3: could easily have ended in the most appalling disaster you

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Speaker 3: just need, which would have taken out the painting, quite

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Speaker 3: a lot of my wife's favorite crockery. Why do men

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Speaker 3: do these sorts of things? I found the something I

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Speaker 3: knew all the time. Wait for somebody to come home,

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Speaker 3: but are they well?

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Speaker 2: Now you can just sit and enjoy your you know,

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Speaker 2: extraorin new piece of art. Hey, if you do love

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Speaker 2: Banksy and if anyone else has been to that exhibition

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Speaker 2: and really enjoyed it. He released a film that was

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Speaker 2: called Exit through the Gift Shop and it was released

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Speaker 2: in twenty ten. It's a British documentary and film by

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Speaker 2: artist Banksy, and it's a really great doco that's while

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Speaker 2: worth catching, I think you're probably going to have to

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Speaker 2: pay for it to watch it on a streaming service.

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Speaker 3: But he.

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Speaker 2: Tells a story of a French immigrant actually who was

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles who filmed a whole lot of street artists,

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Speaker 2: so it sort of follows along that path anyway, it's really,

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Speaker 2: really well done. If anyone's looking for a film recommendation,

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Speaker 2: that's a movie that Banks he made. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I saw some reference to that in the show, actually,

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Speaker 3: and I love to see the whole thing. It's He's

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Speaker 3: such a highly intelligent dude, isn't he really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very much so. It is going to be wonderful

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Speaker 2: one day, Kevin to work out who he actually is.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, nice to talk to you.

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