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Speaker 2: Hell are you great, New Zealands? Welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show, Podcast number two four fourth from Monday,

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Speaker 2: the seventeenth of November. Fantastic show today. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 3: Who had it all? Didn't it?

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Speaker 2: We're dating, we had sexual activity, we had ubi ubi.

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Speaker 2: We had a head of a new political party who

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Speaker 2: wouldn't answer my questions on cats. So I decided to

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Speaker 2: knock me on my back for one of her first interviews.

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Speaker 2: She done about three or four interviews, but she decided

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Speaker 2: to just knock me on my back. When I asked her,

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Speaker 2: as your party is still talking about cats anyway?

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Speaker 3: She got a hickels up on that one.

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Speaker 2: She did that she was she was very good. Apart

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Speaker 2: from that. Yeah, No, it was a great, great show.

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Speaker 3: Loved it, so download, subscribe and give us a review

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Speaker 4: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk.

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Speaker 3: Said, good ay to you. Welcome into Monday show. Hope

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Speaker 3: you're doing pretty good if you were listening in this

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Speaker 3: lovely country of ours, mad Heath. How are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Hello Tyler?

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Speaker 3: Hello?

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Speaker 2: Are you great? New Zealanders? Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: tuning in. I'm doing pretty well if you listen to

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Speaker 2: our show on Friday. I indulge myself by spending the

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Speaker 2: last hour of the show asking for people for advice

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Speaker 2: because I was running my first marathon on the weekend

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Speaker 2: down in Queenstown on Sydney.

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Speaker 3: How good and I ran it? You did? You got

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Speaker 3: to the end of the line and that's what you

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Speaker 3: always said.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so I thought the best way to describe it.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people asking me to describe how the

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Speaker 2: marathon went. So my lovely partner, partner Tracy, she filmed

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Speaker 2: a lot of it and she put a little video up.

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Speaker 2: You can actually watch that at mett Heath in zed

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Speaker 2: on my Instagram. But I thought i'd read her analysis

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we arrived at the start line two minute before

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Speaker 2: the race began. Stress was high. Yeah, we messed that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. Preparation has not been on point over

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Speaker 2: the past month. As we arrived, Matt googled when should

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Speaker 2: I have my energy gels. Gels were then discovered to

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Speaker 2: me thinking I should pre book a Saint John's ambulance

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Speaker 2: his soul had actually departed his earth this earthly plane.

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Speaker 2: But he made it to the finish line with minimal

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Speaker 2: chafing and cleanish pants. Emboldened by his brave defeat of

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your support Tracy on the marathon.

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Speaker 2: But like so, I started the marathon, and as I said,

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Speaker 3: Do you think that was some sort of hallucination When

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Speaker 2: I was talking on a podcast about it this morning

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Speaker 2: Kate from Clyde, Great New Zealander. In fact, their name

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Speaker 2: But what an experience. Finished the marathon. But being the

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Speaker 2: psychologically damaged person I am, I immediately thought, I need

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Speaker 2: I'm going to do another one and take the lessons

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Speaker 2: I learned on this one and run a bitter marathon.

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Speaker 3: That's a good attitude.

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Speaker 2: But I finished, and I was worried I wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: I'm willing to slightly pat myself on the back for that.

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Speaker 3: Got the job done.

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Speaker 2: But I got to be better.

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Speaker 3: What's the standown period before your next marathon?

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Speaker 3: Kate obviously hot contented for New Zealand for the week.

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Speaker 2: She's only really I mean, she's a fan.

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Speaker 3: They will nominate her. Okay, yeah, bro, No, well done mate.

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Speaker 3: It's a hell of a thing to do and not

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Speaker 2: Look at this hateful person that's texting I'm a god.

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Speaker 2: Of course. First thing we hear is about Matt.

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Speaker 2: Time to switch off person that ends in five to one.

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Speaker 2: You're a hateful person. Yeah, well someone runs a marathon

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Speaker 3: We don't want you.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that are texting and nice stuff.

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Speaker 2: But then there's come on your New Zealand. We've got

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Speaker 2: to be better than just hating on people for trying

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Speaker 3: Poppy. God, See, this is what's holding us back, all

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Speaker 3: this tool poppy stuff saying ah cheapers. I mean there's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're entitled person. People like this sixth person from

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Speaker 2: six to two just hateful, miserable, purfle another hour me

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Speaker 2: sarging Matt Heath Sieger. You're a bad person.

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Speaker 3: Do better? Do bad people Bebe like Kate, Be like

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Speaker 2: Imagine just walking around and someone shares that they ran

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Speaker 2: is wrong with you people that text that stuff? If

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Speaker 2: I would say something nice and I'd like to hear.

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Speaker 2: I'd be interested in your story definitely. But you small

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Speaker 3: Yeah, be happier, Just do better?

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, that actually makes me worry for the state

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Speaker 2: of people that that many people text that hate through.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe I'm emotional because I expended all my

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Speaker 3: Not many people run a marathon. Just one last question. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: you mentioned and Tracy's post that the chafing went okay.

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Speaker 3: So yes, so the nip survived.

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Speaker 2: So you're a good person, Tyler, because you put together

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Speaker 2: anti chafing stuff. Yep, was so good.

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Speaker 3: I just knew that was a vulnerability and I'm glad

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Speaker 2: Band and your anti chafing stuff. I was halfway through

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Speaker 2: the US I was thinking, good on you, Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 2: You're a good person.

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Speaker 3: Well done, mate, it's a hell of an achievement. Right

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Speaker 3: on to today's show after three o'clock. This is gonna

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Speaker 3: be a great chat. So some women in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Yes, so key, we men useless at dating eight hundred

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Speaker 2: is it because you are a bad option?

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Speaker 3: Yep, looking forward to that after three o'clock. After two o'clock,

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Speaker 3: new researchers sound in the alarm. This is when it

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Speaker 3: comes to screen time. So Ossie children average around six

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Speaker 3: children aren't far behind that. It's a habit that experts

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Speaker 3: The line is that it is making them dumber and sicker,

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Speaker 3: and toddlers are most at risk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So people are saying more and more

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Speaker 2: and not only that, it's making them dumber.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is concerning.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it, Because no parent wants to make their kids

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: So the question is when is it too early for

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Speaker 2: any kind of screen time with your kids? And people

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Speaker 2: people have been accusing people have using TVs as babysitters. Know,

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Speaker 2: that was the thing when I was a kid, babysitter

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Speaker 2: TV babysitting, But I don't know when it's so hard

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Speaker 3: Eighty ten eighty nine, two ninety two is the text

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Speaker 3: It'd be very good afternoons. You are nineteen past one. So,

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Speaker 7: Good afternoon, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Now, Cula, I've got to ask you, what's the current

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Speaker 8: I think you know that was actually nine years ago.

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Speaker 8: I definitely followed them and I have voted for them previously. Okay,

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Speaker 8: If you also think about people who you know, we've

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Speaker 3: To that, right, So, reaching or breaching the five percent

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Speaker 7: I'm backing one hundred percent, all right, so.

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Speaker 2: A thousand is yeah, okay, all right, but no word

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Speaker 8: I mean, I'm definitely you know, I've sacrificed a few things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, a Qi Lee, all the very best to

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Speaker 7: Very best, awesome, thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: That is Qla Wong, the new leader of the Opportunity Party,

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Speaker 3: So keen to get your thoughts on eight hundred and

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Speaker 3: Come on through, it is twenty seven past one.

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Speaker 2: She's she's already quite a good politician because she wouldn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, your name, that was an easy one.

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Speaker 2: All right, what do you think one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 4: The headlines and the hard questions, it's the mic asking

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Speaker 2: Beef, it goes back to what do we know?

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Speaker 10: So it goes back to before the fifteen percent was

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Speaker 11: It's less than one percent, so.

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Speaker 10: It really means a very level playing field with every

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Speaker 10: it start, my understandings, it started already on the moment

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Speaker 10: that the announcement was made just to tay her two ago.

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Speaker 2: Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 2: Mayley's Real Estate News Talk ZEB very good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: She it is twenty nine to two. What sort of

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Speaker 3: party would you like to see in Parliament? On the

443
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Speaker 3: back of the Opportunity Party rebranding sounds.

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Speaker 2: Like she's just taken a job because she needed one

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Speaker 2: and doesn't expect to be in parliament. The policy sounds

446
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Speaker 2: as deluded as the Green policy Land text you're dreaming.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I don't think that's true, whether you

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Speaker 2: agree with her or not in her policies. I think

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Speaker 2: that she genuinely believes in what she's saying, and I

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Speaker 2: think that she's she's a motivated and well spoken leader

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Speaker 2: of the party. Qla wog. I think I'm quite impressed

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Speaker 2: with I mean, I was shot that she went so

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Speaker 2: aggressively on the first question about cats.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's obviously it's a nerve the old cat question

455
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Speaker 3: when it comes to the.

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Speaker 2: Opportunity decided she wanted to make an enemy of me there,

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Speaker 2: but I she did coming hot well, but good on it. Ye, yes,

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Speaker 2: she wants to knock a media wounder on his back

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Speaker 2: on the first question, and you know, start a lifetime

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Speaker 2: for you. Then good on it. But I think I

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Speaker 2: think there's no doubt if you listen to her that

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Speaker 2: she she's passionate about about the party and believes that

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Speaker 2: that this new way of thinking is the way for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or she's certainly made or the party's made some

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Speaker 3: big policy announcements. So this text us talks about the

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Speaker 3: UBI get a. Guys, does that replace the benefit? But

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Speaker 3: everybody gets it. So if you choose to work, you

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Speaker 3: have a better life than incapable of simply bone idle people.

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Speaker 3: Sounds good to me. But where's the motivation to actually

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Speaker 3: stay working? And that is a big question around around

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Speaker 3: the universe. Will basically income It's been floated for some time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I thank you for it to work and

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Speaker 2: I don't have to look up. But the idea is

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Speaker 2: that you get rid of everything. So there is no

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Speaker 2: other there's no other benefits and so everyone gets it

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Speaker 2: in the univers will basic income as it has been

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Speaker 2: fillatted by people like Andrew Yang. Everyone gets it right

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Speaker 2: from the top to the bottom. Yes, And the complain

479
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Speaker 2: about that is it's you know, giving the doll to billionaires,

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Speaker 2: right and millionaires. But I think they have a cap

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Speaker 2: at the opportunity party on it. But yeah, yeah, I

482
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Speaker 2: mean you can't be you can't be you know, multiplying

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Speaker 2: your benefits. Yeah, And I think they look at it

484
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Speaker 2: being about the same as the work secer. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure. I can see an eighteen year old just

486
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Speaker 2: not doing anything and not following and just sitting around

487
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Speaker 2: doing nothing because they can get that. Yeah, potentially, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, what do you think. One hundred eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Eighty nine two niney two is the text number headlines

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Speaker 3: hot on our tail, but love to hear from you.

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number.

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Speaker 12: News Talk said with blue bubble taxis it's no trouble

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Speaker 12: with a blue bubble. I give a little Page has

494
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Speaker 12: identified three children who died in a house fire in

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Speaker 12: Mala Wittu on Saturday, along with their father. Schools and

496
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Speaker 12: early childcare sites around the country are waiting for Ministry

497
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Speaker 12: guidance on concerns about asbestos contamination in colored play sand,

498
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Speaker 12: ec rainbow sand and creatistics colored sand were recalled last week.

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Speaker 12: A man has died after being pulled unresponsive from the

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Speaker 12: water at Auckland's Takapuna about midday. Police staff couldn't revive

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Speaker 12: him and his death will be referred to the coroner.

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Speaker 12: Saltland police are looking for two people who lured a

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Speaker 12: man out of his Edendale house on Saturday night, claiming

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Speaker 12: to have a flat tire, before seriously assaulting him. Police

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Speaker 12: are asking for any security footage from around Malvin and

506
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Speaker 12: Turner Streets or sightings of a dark suv our. First

507
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Speaker 12: zero crystalline silica factory is opening in Nelson. An industry

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Speaker 12: miles don't in the fight against a reversible lung disease silicosis.

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Speaker 12: Chris Luxon is right to call for a mature conversation

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Speaker 12: about asset sales, but there's no way he'll get it,

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Speaker 12: according to Liam Dan, you can read the full column

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Speaker 12: at end, said Herold Premium. I'm back to matt Ethan

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Speaker 12: Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Railey. So we're talking about the

515
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Speaker 3: Opportunities Party trying to get back into Parliament with a

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Speaker 3: new leader.

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Speaker 2: I like to push back on a couple of texts

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Speaker 2: that people are sitting through saying it was a stupid

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Speaker 2: question to ask about the cat policy. No, because I

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Speaker 2: think that had a lot to do with thinking the

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Speaker 2: Top Party in the past and why they never got

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Speaker 2: over to point five percent, because the whole thing came

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Speaker 2: about the around the cat thing. Whether that was never

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Speaker 2: a huge significant thing, but Gareth Morgan who started the party,

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Speaker 2: was huge about domestic cats because he hated what they

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Speaker 2: did to birds and that was something that caught on

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Speaker 2: in the media.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it clearly hit a nerve. So it's an

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Speaker 3: important question.

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Speaker 2: There was the thing that cuts through more than anything

531
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Speaker 2: else with the Top Party, for better or worse. So

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Speaker 2: I think it was a legitimate question to ask where

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Speaker 2: they said on the cat thing. She's moved on from it.

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Speaker 3: But we still don't know or anti cat. I mean

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Speaker 3: she had a cat door. Does that mean that she's

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Speaker 3: pro cat? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, no, I think you can read between the lines.

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Speaker 2: If she's got a cat door, then she's allowing her

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Speaker 2: cat to go out and decimate the native birds of

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Speaker 2: our country. So I think you can say the Opportunity

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Speaker 2: Party has moved on from the cat is suit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So she didn't want to answer the question, but I

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Speaker 2: think she did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, important question. Yeah, Oh one hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 3: eighty is that number to.

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Speaker 2: Call CAM you want to talk about universal basic income?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Look, I don't really think it's a good her idea.

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Speaker 11: I think I'll just end up pumping up inflation a bit.

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Speaker 11: I because if everyone's got the same amount of income,

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Speaker 11: then instead of becomes a base, you're not really assisting

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Speaker 11: those in need. But just on that, I mean, there's

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Speaker 11: certainly no denying that New Zealand has a massive issue

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Speaker 11: with the people that are career beneficiaries. And why why

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Speaker 11: doesn't one of these parties come up with a solution

556
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Speaker 11: that says, look, from the moment you leave school or

557
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Speaker 11: stop training to the moment you retire at sixty five,

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Speaker 11: you can only have five years of benefit life. And

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Speaker 11: because I mean it seems a bit of unfeared and

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Speaker 11: someone who struggles away their whole life and never takes

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Speaker 11: the benefit to let other people spend twenty five years

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Speaker 11: of their life on the benefits. I want to just

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Speaker 11: put a cat time frame, a cap on how long

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Speaker 11: you Obviously someone's got a legitimate need for a need

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Speaker 11: for to be on the benefit, like they can't work

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Speaker 11: as a handicap or whatever. Fine, but if you haven't,

567
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Speaker 11: I should just get to live and live a life

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Speaker 11: where you're paid for by everyone else. Do you think

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Speaker 11: Kim's a good standard?

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Speaker 2: Do you think, Kim that there are some people that

571
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Speaker 2: are just unemployable that they don't have a necessarily something

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Speaker 2: that you could diagnose, but they're just unemployable for whatever reason.

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Speaker 2: And after that five years, would they just be on

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Speaker 2: the street in your plan?

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Speaker 11: Or what do you mean by unemployable? Like unemployable? Like

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Speaker 11: not everyone can be a rocket scientist?

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Speaker 2: I think rubbish. I think some people can't even do that.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I think there are a certain certain percentage

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Speaker 2: of people that just cannot, even for whatever reason, no

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Speaker 2: matter what you do, even turn up to pick up

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Speaker 2: rubbish off the streets.

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Speaker 11: Right, So what percentage of the population do you think

583
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Speaker 11: that will apply?

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Speaker 2: I would I would say, yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 11: We just called the whole bunch of people. I couldn't

586
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Speaker 11: think of one of them that couldn't pick up rubbish.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's some people that there's some people that can't

588
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Speaker 2: turn up anywhere. They can't they're a liability. There's more

589
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Speaker 2: work and organizing them to pick up the rubbish than

590
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Speaker 2: it is for them to actually pick up the rubbish.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a certain percentage, and anyway, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're right to point out what percentage, because I'm just

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Speaker 2: sort of talking here without it. I don't have any

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Speaker 2: stats behind it. But I guess the bigger question then

595
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Speaker 2: would be what happens to those people after the five years,

596
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Speaker 2: if they if they got a job, they've failed.

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Speaker 11: You can, but you'd like to think you'd like to

598
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Speaker 11: think that I look at that and go, well, Okay,

599
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Speaker 11: I've just left school at eighteen. I've got five years

600
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Speaker 11: of bumming around before I'm not going to get the

601
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Speaker 11: benefit anymore. Maybe I should get off my house and

602
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Speaker 11: get a job now, rather than waking up when I'm

603
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Speaker 11: thirty five as a loser. What's the only job I

604
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Speaker 11: can do is something like picking up rubbish? But even't

605
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Speaker 11: trained or obtained any skills at that point. I think realistically,

606
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Speaker 11: you've got to you know, there's got to be at

607
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Speaker 11: some point in a topic clift that stops people getting

608
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Speaker 11: into that trap, So the just encourage them to be

609
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Speaker 11: on benefits for the whole life and realistically saying that

610
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Speaker 11: while well, some people are unemployable so it can't hide

611
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Speaker 11: to everyone, seems like a pretty low sort of bar

612
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Speaker 11: you're setting for basically basic humanity.

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Speaker 2: I know it is. It's an interesting thing with the

614
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Speaker 2: left right thing because some people say that the left

615
00:29:01,613 --> 00:29:05,613
Speaker 2: care about, you know, vulnerable people more, and some people

616
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Speaker 2: say that the left position is that you have no

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Speaker 2: faith in human There's two ways of looking at it,

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Speaker 2: and I do think there's something. If there's no backstop

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Speaker 2: at all, then there's more meaning in whatever job you get.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that we should get rid of

621
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Speaker 2: unemployment benefit and I'm not saying that we shouldn't help people,

622
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Speaker 2: but I think if the difference between is starving on

623
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Speaker 2: the streets and holding down what's quite a boring rubbish job,

624
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Speaker 2: then that boring rubbish job is actually more meaningful for you,

625
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Speaker 2: and you will, you will rock through the forty hours

626
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Speaker 2: a week just because the other you know, it has

627
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Speaker 2: serious meaning for your life.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, But I think the thing is what you're talking

629
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Speaker 11: about is the boring, meaningless job. Okay, so if you

630
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Speaker 11: leave school and you've got absolutely no skills and you

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Speaker 11: enter into the workflorce without any ambition of being a

632
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Speaker 11: painter or anything along those lines, then yeah, by the

633
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Speaker 11: time you get to forty, you're not going to have

634
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Speaker 11: any skills and the only job you're going to get

635
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Speaker 11: is going to be a very poor one. Whereas they

636
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Speaker 11: actually leave school with an ambition of, hey, well I

637
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Speaker 11: could do and get to that point and then be

638
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Speaker 11: an apprentice mechanical builder or work on the railroad or

639
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Speaker 11: get my become a truck driver or something like that,

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Speaker 11: then actually the job, the job profile tiedule of that person.

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Speaker 11: It's far greater than if they just leave school, playplaystation

642
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Speaker 11: for ten years, wake up when they're twenty eight and

643
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Speaker 11: go oh well, oh shit, I don't want to start

644
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Speaker 11: at the bottom. They shouldn't been starting at the bottom

645
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Speaker 11: at eighteen. Yeah, so yeah, hey, give paying people to

646
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Speaker 11: sit on their asses. Not really a solution. As far

647
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Speaker 11: as putting them on a career path, well be it.

648
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Speaker 11: Not everyone has to be a rocket dinist, but actually

649
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Speaker 11: a career path that is going to lead to lead

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Speaker 11: to somewhere that is going to end up with being

651
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Speaker 11: a filling job, not just sitting on your ars, down

652
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Speaker 11: your handout and being paid for by all the hard

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Speaker 11: working textpayers for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I guess what I was talking about because I read

656
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Speaker 2: this story from a person that was a lift operator

657
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Speaker 2: in the nineteen thirties and New York when the depression

658
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Speaker 2: came in, and he was interviewed about running a lift

659
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Speaker 2: operation and if it was boring, and his thing was

660
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Speaker 2: running the lift feeds my kids, So it is the

661
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Speaker 2: best job I could you know, having this job is

662
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Speaker 2: so important to me and so meaningful. And he basically

663
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Speaker 2: I can't remember the exact words, but this lift operator

664
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Speaker 2: had no complaints about his job because his job was

665
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Speaker 2: keeping his kids off the street and keeping him off

666
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Speaker 2: the street. If you see what I mean. There's a

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Speaker 2: sort of if the jeopardy's up, the meaning meaning and

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Speaker 2: your job is up. Is the point I was trying

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Speaker 2: to make that camp.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, but I think from my point the reality is

671
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Speaker 11: if you are have no skills and are thirty five

672
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Speaker 11: and consider at home and get five hundred bucks a

673
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Speaker 11: week from the government and a free house versus working

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Speaker 11: and getting six hundred and fifty bucks a week and

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Speaker 11: no free house. I can see why people don't. I

676
00:31:50,333 --> 00:31:52,573
Speaker 11: can see why people don't work. Can you see the

677
00:31:52,613 --> 00:31:55,173
Speaker 11: reality is you've got to stop that. You've got to

678
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Speaker 11: stop that point when younger, so they can actually get

679
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Speaker 11: the highest skills there so that when their life proddresses

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Speaker 11: and you know, they have children and more expense, and

681
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Speaker 11: they're like they are capable of learning or not starting

682
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Speaker 11: at the bottom later in life, which unfortunately is what

683
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Speaker 11: happened when and so that's why I'm sort of suggesting saying,

684
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Speaker 11: what if you actually had like a time frame going hey,

685
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Speaker 11: well you only got five years of your life, you

686
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Speaker 11: can be on a benefit. Maybe they would inspire people

687
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Speaker 11: to actually start working younger.

688
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Speaker 2: Hey, I've got a texts come through here for you

689
00:32:24,293 --> 00:32:26,493
Speaker 2: benefit the whole day. I've got text has come through

690
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Speaker 2: for you, Cam for a question for you to answer. Hey, guys,

691
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Speaker 2: is Cam going to tell us where all the jobs

692
00:32:32,493 --> 00:32:35,333
Speaker 2: are so that people do not have to become beneficiaries?

693
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Speaker 2: Do you think there's enough jobs out there for everyone?

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Speaker 11: Well, the fact that they're importing immigrants to do jobs,

695
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Speaker 11: and I'll tell you what, they're not all highly skilled

696
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Speaker 11: because I see a lot of them driving trucks and

697
00:32:48,373 --> 00:32:52,413
Speaker 11: taxis have always stopped importing people to start with, and

698
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Speaker 11: hopefully that we're to encourage people to do that legitimate

699
00:32:55,373 --> 00:32:57,333
Speaker 11: left there's no jobs. Hey, that's fair enough. Yeah, they

700
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Speaker 11: they could be on a benefit if there were a

701
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Speaker 11: criteria that would fulfill that, But realistically, I'm sort of

702
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Speaker 11: talking about more generic sort of approach of going, hey, well,

703
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Speaker 11: you know, realistically, is their jobs out there? Because I'm

704
00:33:08,733 --> 00:33:11,253
Speaker 11: sure everyone who leaves school sense I think they should

705
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Speaker 11: be earning a lot of money.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, well I guess I.

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Speaker 2: Guess the top party would say that with you know,

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Speaker 2: automation and AI taking jobs, that there could be a

709
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Speaker 2: situation down the track very soon where a lot of

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Speaker 2: those sort of lowering jobs are just completely replaced or

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Speaker 2: and you know, you know, middle class jobs being replaced

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Speaker 2: by AI, and that they would believe that the economy

713
00:33:36,853 --> 00:33:39,533
Speaker 2: needs a reset, but you'd also need the economy to

714
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Speaker 2: have the requisite growth to cover that as well. If

715
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Speaker 2: that if that was going to be the case, camp

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Speaker 2: so then just on.

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Speaker 11: That, well, then why are we why are we bringing

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Speaker 11: in immigrants through work if we're going to have a

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Speaker 11: over supply of workers in five years time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks so much. We call campcire Can. Thank you

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Speaker 3: very much, just quickly on the UBI. Look, I I

722
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Speaker 3: think it's a bad idea in general, but I can

723
00:34:01,693 --> 00:34:04,293
Speaker 3: see some merits and it's still you know, it's a

724
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Speaker 3: bit of a theory here and it hasn't been put

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Speaker 3: into practice in any part of the world. But that

726
00:34:08,493 --> 00:34:10,973
Speaker 3: idea that it makes it a lot more simplified at

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Speaker 3: the benefit level. But then for people in the middle

728
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Speaker 3: class who actually know the value of hard work, having

729
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Speaker 3: a bit of extra money to take a punt on

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Speaker 3: something like a business can be good for an economy.

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Speaker 3: So that is the flip side. But it is a

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Speaker 3: bold idea. Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is

733
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Speaker 3: that number to call? It's thirteen to.

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Speaker 1: Two your home of afternoon talk, mad Heathen Taylor Adams.

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Speaker 1: Afternoons call, oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be very good. Afternoon to here. It is ten

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Speaker 3: to two, Maverick eating pretty good?

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Speaker 4: How are you good?

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon about the Opportunity Party UBI? Is

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Speaker 3: there room for another party in politics?

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Speaker 9: There's always room for another party. But I really disagree

742
00:34:53,573 --> 00:34:56,893
Speaker 9: with a universal tension or whatever you want to call it,

743
00:34:56,973 --> 00:35:00,893
Speaker 9: grant you've got to work for everything in life. That's

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Speaker 9: the way we're designed.

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Speaker 3: Yep, what do you think?

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Speaker 2: What do you think about their assertion and that it

747
00:35:09,093 --> 00:35:12,613
Speaker 2: will give people the space if they're on this what

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Speaker 2: are they calling it? Sorry, they call it the change

749
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Speaker 2: the name because the UBI has a bit of baggage,

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Speaker 2: so they're calling it the citizens. What is it?

751
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Speaker 3: Citizens?

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Speaker 2: And citizens can So their assertion at top is that

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Speaker 2: it will give people the space to be innovative and

754
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Speaker 2: take risks in life and become the next you know,

755
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Speaker 2: genius that employs you know, tens of thousands of people

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Speaker 2: in this country.

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Speaker 9: That will apply to some, but most will just say

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Speaker 9: take the money and sip on my ass.

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Speaker 3: If it was to come into play, Maverick, do you

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Speaker 3: think you'd give it back? Are you in a position

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Speaker 3: to say I don't need that, and you take it

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Speaker 3: back and put it into something that's that there's actually need.

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Speaker 9: I would not accept it, even though I've got no

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Speaker 9: money at all, and i live a very basic life

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Speaker 9: and I'm happy with that and I'm working to improve

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Speaker 9: it to be comfortable, but never rich.

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Speaker 3: I mean I do. And you were making this point

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Speaker 3: and I do agree with it that that motivation when

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Speaker 3: you're between so your options are you go hungry and

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Speaker 3: your family go hungry, or you work a job. Great

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00:36:24,133 --> 00:36:27,533
Speaker 3: motivation and good for giving you purpose in life. But

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Speaker 3: I think I hope for most people when it's sink

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Speaker 3: or swim, you swim. When what is on the line

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Speaker 3: is that you feed yourself and house yourself, most people

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Speaker 3: I would assume would do whatever they needed to do

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Speaker 3: to make sure that they weren't on the streets.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, including burglary and stealing food off people.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of that as well, yep, absolutely, you know,

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Speaker 3: and this hasn't been disparaging to those on the street,

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Speaker 3: but as we know, there's a lot of factors that

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00:36:51,573 --> 00:36:54,413
Speaker 3: play there with people who end up in that unfortunate position.

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Speaker 3: But I think for most of these you need that motivation.

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Speaker 3: Right when that motivation has taken away that unless you work,

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Speaker 3: you're not going to be able to feed yourself with

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Speaker 3: your family, then there may be people who take advantage

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Speaker 3: of that.

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Speaker 9: Yep. Always there's always people for waiting to take advantage

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Speaker 9: of anything they can get for free. And nothing's for free.

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Speaker 9: It's the thing, Hey, it's not free.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for your call. This text says, hey, guys,

791
00:37:22,933 --> 00:37:25,573
Speaker 2: people are getting laid off from jobs left, right and centered.

792
00:37:25,653 --> 00:37:28,013
Speaker 2: So how are we going to put all these people

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Speaker 2: into jobs? Says this text, Whereas Sam, she says, I

794
00:37:33,013 --> 00:37:35,013
Speaker 2: work for a cleaning company. Always need good stuff. We

795
00:37:35,093 --> 00:37:37,253
Speaker 2: paid a living wage, and we can't find staff that

796
00:37:37,333 --> 00:37:40,373
Speaker 2: show up consistent, sober, not impacted by drugs, don't steal.

797
00:37:40,453 --> 00:37:43,133
Speaker 2: We have jobs, but people don't want to do them.

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00:37:42,613 --> 00:37:45,732
Speaker 2: My kids complain they can't get a job, and I say,

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Speaker 2: come on, work for me. I get a no, thank you.

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Speaker 3: There you go. Keep those teachs coming through A nine two,

801
00:37:50,653 --> 00:37:52,652
Speaker 3: nine to two. It is seven minutes to two.

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Speaker 4: Madd Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on Oh, eight

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Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heath and Tyler

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Speaker 4: Adams afternoons news talks envy.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoons you It is four minutes to two.

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Speaker 2: The TEXTA says, there already two hundred thousand people with

807
00:38:10,253 --> 00:38:12,493
Speaker 2: no interest in working jobs. Seeker as a joke, so

808
00:38:12,573 --> 00:38:15,133
Speaker 2: as the traffic light system. These people just apply to

809
00:38:15,173 --> 00:38:17,453
Speaker 2: be a rocket scientist three times a month. Guess what

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00:38:17,773 --> 00:38:21,293
Speaker 2: they don't get The job. I'm a little bit confused

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Speaker 2: by that. Texan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah started off well, I don't know about the rocket

813
00:38:24,293 --> 00:38:25,733
Speaker 3: scientists part, but thank you very much.

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00:38:25,733 --> 00:38:29,933
Speaker 2: A point in there that I missed. It's got to say, yeah,

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00:38:30,013 --> 00:38:34,652
Speaker 2: the juries out on UBI, yeah, certainly is allbiations yep.

816
00:38:35,093 --> 00:38:38,573
Speaker 2: But will the top party make make it to five

817
00:38:38,613 --> 00:38:40,333
Speaker 2: percent threshold? Only time will tell.

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00:38:40,413 --> 00:38:42,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll find out in about a year's time. Right,

819
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Speaker 3: coming up after two o'clock, we want to have a

820
00:38:44,053 --> 00:38:47,613
Speaker 3: chat about screen time. Alarming research shows kids are getting

821
00:38:47,653 --> 00:38:49,973
Speaker 3: around six hours a day and that's doing bad things

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00:38:49,973 --> 00:38:52,133
Speaker 3: to their brain. So what age do you think it's

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00:38:52,133 --> 00:38:54,453
Speaker 3: okay to give a child a device? Oh, one hundred

824
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Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

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Speaker 2: What about the cats?

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Speaker 4: Talking with you all afternoon?

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams Afternoons US Talks.

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Speaker 3: It'd be afternoon. Do you welcome back into the show?

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Speaker 3: Past two?

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Speaker 2: Hey, I just want to say thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for your lovely messages on me finishing the marathon on

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Speaker 2: the weekends. So nice of people to text through those messages.

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00:39:17,893 --> 00:39:21,213
Speaker 2: It was hard and I'm shagged and sore two days later,

834
00:39:21,933 --> 00:39:24,652
Speaker 2: but to get those nice messages has made my day,

835
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Speaker 2: so thank you. As always, there are the nasty people

836
00:39:27,853 --> 00:39:31,493
Speaker 2: who scream into the void with their negativity, desperate for

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00:39:31,933 --> 00:39:36,213
Speaker 2: relevance and acknowledgment. Yep, texting hate it me for achieving

838
00:39:36,253 --> 00:39:39,053
Speaker 2: something hard that I didn't think I could achieve. Well,

839
00:39:39,533 --> 00:39:42,413
Speaker 2: you people, you are what is wrong with this country,

840
00:39:43,413 --> 00:39:45,693
Speaker 2: the first and much larger group who reach out to

841
00:39:45,733 --> 00:39:50,253
Speaker 2: celebrate someone's success what is right with the country? And look,

842
00:39:50,533 --> 00:39:52,453
Speaker 2: running a marathon was harder than I thought, and I

843
00:39:52,453 --> 00:39:54,613
Speaker 2: thought it would be very hard. So I have so

844
00:39:54,733 --> 00:39:57,493
Speaker 2: much admiration for those who do it so much better

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Speaker 2: than me. And there were so many people, and there

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Speaker 2: was people in their seventies. And there's something about doing

847
00:40:04,813 --> 00:40:07,573
Speaker 2: an organized run like that, where people have worked hard

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Speaker 2: to get to the that day and they're all doing it,

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Speaker 2: and they're out early in the morning and they're trying

850
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Speaker 2: something really hard. There's something quite beautiful about it. It's

851
00:40:17,213 --> 00:40:20,613
Speaker 2: that sort of shared shared spirit. And you know, you

852
00:40:20,693 --> 00:40:23,373
Speaker 2: do things not because they're easy, but because they're hard.

853
00:40:23,693 --> 00:40:25,252
Speaker 2: And you could just go out your door and run

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Speaker 2: a forty two k if you want it. You don't

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00:40:26,733 --> 00:40:29,772
Speaker 2: have to pay, you don't have to I was thinking

856
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Speaker 2: about I threw it, flew one thousand kilometers and paid

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00:40:34,133 --> 00:40:36,533
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty bucks or something to run forty

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Speaker 2: two kilometers in Queenstown and then threw it, flew a

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Speaker 2: thousand flew a thousand kilometers back. Yeah, when I could

860
00:40:42,293 --> 00:40:43,732
Speaker 2: have just run out the door. But it's the doing

861
00:40:43,773 --> 00:40:47,533
Speaker 2: it with people that is so good. So anyway, I

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00:40:47,573 --> 00:40:49,493
Speaker 2: thank you for your kind messages, and I've got to

863
00:40:49,493 --> 00:40:51,573
Speaker 2: say again thanks heaps to Kate from Clyde who I

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00:40:51,613 --> 00:40:54,533
Speaker 2: met on the run, who looked after me with gels

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Speaker 2: and hazards and timings. She was just so onto it

866
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Speaker 2: with what a great person she was. Like Guardian Angel

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Speaker 2: that met me on the run, she's one of the

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Speaker 2: good ones as well. So anyway, enough about that, let's

869
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Speaker 2: move on with the show, right, Let's.

870
00:41:06,893 --> 00:41:09,053
Speaker 3: Get into this one. So we have a chat about

871
00:41:09,053 --> 00:41:12,453
Speaker 3: screen time. New research is sounding and even louder alarm

872
00:41:12,493 --> 00:41:15,653
Speaker 3: over kids digital habit. So children are in the OECD

873
00:41:15,733 --> 00:41:18,373
Speaker 3: and now spending roughly six hours a day that includes

874
00:41:18,373 --> 00:41:22,373
Speaker 3: New Zealand of course on screen. So experts say that

875
00:41:22,693 --> 00:41:26,493
Speaker 3: is creating out sleep, active play, genuine social interaction and

876
00:41:26,493 --> 00:41:28,692
Speaker 3: what used to be a harmless distraction has become an

877
00:41:28,733 --> 00:41:31,893
Speaker 3: all day default and specialist now worn. The young brains

878
00:41:31,933 --> 00:41:36,253
Speaker 3: simply aren't built for that level of constant stimulation, and.

879
00:41:36,293 --> 00:41:38,293
Speaker 2: It is a real concern. We've talked about this on

880
00:41:38,333 --> 00:41:41,013
Speaker 2: the show before, not for a few months. We talked

881
00:41:41,013 --> 00:41:45,733
Speaker 2: about similar, similar subjects, but this is the this new

882
00:41:45,813 --> 00:41:50,133
Speaker 2: science coming out is really really concerning how much it

883
00:41:50,213 --> 00:41:54,893
Speaker 2: damages kids development and it is literally making kids stupid.

884
00:41:55,493 --> 00:41:58,253
Speaker 2: And that is the last thing that parents want to

885
00:41:58,293 --> 00:42:01,733
Speaker 2: do to their children, right Yeah, And so I mean

886
00:42:01,773 --> 00:42:05,053
Speaker 2: the question is when do you allow your kids screen time?

887
00:42:05,413 --> 00:42:08,253
Speaker 2: Because it's not just giving them a phone when they're thirteen,

888
00:42:09,013 --> 00:42:14,733
Speaker 2: This is have, you know, handing them a iPad to

889
00:42:15,013 --> 00:42:19,732
Speaker 2: keep them quiet? Yeh, it's really bad, But what can

890
00:42:19,733 --> 00:42:22,613
Speaker 2: we do about it? And it's the pressure on parents

891
00:42:22,733 --> 00:42:26,133
Speaker 2: because parents work really freaking hard as well. So you've

892
00:42:26,133 --> 00:42:29,333
Speaker 2: got parents that are holding down two jobs and they

893
00:42:29,373 --> 00:42:31,373
Speaker 2: get home and they just need to rest as well

894
00:42:31,653 --> 00:42:34,253
Speaker 2: done naked, they're naked, and they've got this kid and

895
00:42:34,253 --> 00:42:36,573
Speaker 2: they've got the solution that's right there for the problem,

896
00:42:36,573 --> 00:42:40,413
Speaker 2: and the solution is to hand them an iPad. But

897
00:42:40,573 --> 00:42:42,613
Speaker 2: every time you do that, and the kid gets so

898
00:42:42,653 --> 00:42:45,613
Speaker 2: stimulated that they don't they can't deal with boredom in

899
00:42:45,613 --> 00:42:47,773
Speaker 2: any way, shape or form. So it actually you can

900
00:42:47,853 --> 00:42:50,293
Speaker 2: understand why parents do it, but it actually makes the

901
00:42:50,333 --> 00:42:54,212
Speaker 2: problem worse because as time goes on, kids desperately now

902
00:42:54,413 --> 00:43:00,093
Speaker 2: need the iPad because they haven't learned to entertain themselves.

903
00:43:00,253 --> 00:43:02,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you mentioned it briefly before it when we're

904
00:43:02,613 --> 00:43:04,693
Speaker 3: having a chat about the SOFIA while we were prepping,

905
00:43:04,973 --> 00:43:07,373
Speaker 3: you mentioned siblings. And I think that's a massive part

906
00:43:07,413 --> 00:43:10,413
Speaker 3: of it to anyone out there just with worth one child.

907
00:43:10,493 --> 00:43:12,813
Speaker 3: It's not being disparaging here, but that is a large part.

908
00:43:12,813 --> 00:43:16,253
Speaker 3: When you have brothers and sisters, there's that extra motivation

909
00:43:16,413 --> 00:43:18,533
Speaker 3: to come up with games, to go outside, to do

910
00:43:18,533 --> 00:43:20,133
Speaker 3: all those things I did as a kid with my

911
00:43:20,173 --> 00:43:23,333
Speaker 3: older brothers. We pade with stacks, we had you know,

912
00:43:23,373 --> 00:43:25,253
Speaker 3: we rode the dog when we were young enough out

913
00:43:25,253 --> 00:43:26,813
Speaker 3: in the orchard. That was nice, not so much for

914
00:43:26,853 --> 00:43:27,133
Speaker 3: the dog.

915
00:43:27,173 --> 00:43:27,933
Speaker 2: We got told off for that.

916
00:43:28,293 --> 00:43:30,293
Speaker 3: But you know, all these little games and things that

917
00:43:30,333 --> 00:43:33,693
Speaker 3: you do, and we you know, I was not in

918
00:43:33,693 --> 00:43:35,693
Speaker 3: the era that we had iPads, but we certainly had

919
00:43:35,693 --> 00:43:38,692
Speaker 3: a computer and it was just more interesting to go

920
00:43:38,733 --> 00:43:39,853
Speaker 3: out and do stuff with the bros.

921
00:43:40,133 --> 00:43:44,053
Speaker 2: There is nothing more entertaining than having a sibling within

922
00:43:44,093 --> 00:43:47,733
Speaker 2: about two years of your age. Yep, my sons, yes,

923
00:43:47,773 --> 00:43:50,973
Speaker 2: because they just they were huge into sword fighting for

924
00:43:51,173 --> 00:43:54,693
Speaker 2: years and years. They were just outside sword fighting and

925
00:43:54,773 --> 00:43:58,373
Speaker 2: running and doing this stuff. But you know, families are

926
00:43:58,413 --> 00:44:00,133
Speaker 2: smaller now than they used to be. Yeah, a lot

927
00:44:00,173 --> 00:44:02,093
Speaker 2: of people believe it's too expensive. I mean it's quite

928
00:44:02,133 --> 00:44:03,853
Speaker 2: hard to run four kids these days like I had

929
00:44:03,853 --> 00:44:04,493
Speaker 2: when I was a kid.

930
00:44:04,573 --> 00:44:05,853
Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely, Yeah.

931
00:44:05,973 --> 00:44:08,893
Speaker 2: Do kids still play war when I was a kid.

932
00:44:08,933 --> 00:44:10,893
Speaker 2: When I was a kid, the thing you did is

933
00:44:10,933 --> 00:44:13,373
Speaker 2: you fashioned a stick into the shape of a gun,

934
00:44:13,413 --> 00:44:14,733
Speaker 2: and you ran round and you went.

935
00:44:15,973 --> 00:44:18,493
Speaker 3: Such a great game, such a great game. Oh eight,

936
00:44:18,493 --> 00:44:20,373
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

937
00:44:20,373 --> 00:44:22,133
Speaker 3: So I love to your thoughts on this. How young

938
00:44:22,653 --> 00:44:24,172
Speaker 3: do you think is too young to give a child

939
00:44:24,173 --> 00:44:26,093
Speaker 3: a device? And if you're a parent out there with

940
00:44:26,133 --> 00:44:28,933
Speaker 3: young children, how hard is it and how much do

941
00:44:29,013 --> 00:44:30,692
Speaker 3: you feel that you need to rely on it just

942
00:44:30,733 --> 00:44:32,493
Speaker 3: to get a little bit of piece and quiet for

943
00:44:32,493 --> 00:44:33,613
Speaker 3: a couple of hours after work?

944
00:44:34,133 --> 00:44:36,333
Speaker 2: Alternatively, do you think this is just the current media

945
00:44:36,373 --> 00:44:39,893
Speaker 2: beat up and we're always finding reasons to judge parents

946
00:44:39,933 --> 00:44:42,453
Speaker 2: and make parents feel bad about the way they're parenting.

947
00:44:43,013 --> 00:44:46,133
Speaker 2: Back in the day, they used to talk about TV babysitting,

948
00:44:46,253 --> 00:44:49,533
Speaker 2: using television as a babysitter. Has it really changed?

949
00:44:49,613 --> 00:44:49,813
Speaker 4: Yep?

950
00:44:49,933 --> 00:44:52,333
Speaker 2: Oh wait, maybe it hasn't. Maybe it's just the current

951
00:44:52,893 --> 00:44:56,093
Speaker 2: hysterical panic about parenting.

952
00:44:56,413 --> 00:44:58,252
Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number

953
00:44:58,293 --> 00:45:00,253
Speaker 3: to call? Nine two ninety two is the text. It

954
00:45:00,333 --> 00:45:02,133
Speaker 3: is twelve past two.

955
00:45:01,533 --> 00:45:06,133
Speaker 1: Wow your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams

956
00:45:06,173 --> 00:45:09,692
Speaker 1: afternoons call, Oh eight hundred you talk.

957
00:45:11,613 --> 00:45:14,053
Speaker 3: It is a quarter past two. We're talking about screen time.

958
00:45:14,093 --> 00:45:16,413
Speaker 3: How much is too much? And at what age do

959
00:45:16,453 --> 00:45:18,333
Speaker 3: you think it's appropriate to give a child a device?

960
00:45:18,373 --> 00:45:20,133
Speaker 3: So one hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call.

961
00:45:20,213 --> 00:45:21,172
Speaker 2: Sam, Welcome to the show.

962
00:45:22,613 --> 00:45:25,813
Speaker 13: No, Hi, Matt, congratulations on finishing your marathon.

963
00:45:26,053 --> 00:45:28,573
Speaker 2: Oh thank you so much. Sam, thank you for saying that.

964
00:45:29,853 --> 00:45:33,013
Speaker 13: No problem. I'm just calling about the screen time. I

965
00:45:33,053 --> 00:45:38,013
Speaker 13: have a daughter who is a daycare teacher. She also

966
00:45:38,053 --> 00:45:40,333
Speaker 13: has two little boys, a three year old and an

967
00:45:40,373 --> 00:45:44,813
Speaker 13: eighteen months old, and she we have chat this morning.

968
00:45:46,253 --> 00:45:51,173
Speaker 13: She's desperately worried about all these children even coming to daycare,

969
00:45:51,253 --> 00:45:55,013
Speaker 13: that have just spent all their time on iPads because

970
00:45:55,013 --> 00:45:57,652
Speaker 13: she said, Mum, dow ferrel and if you don't give

971
00:45:57,693 --> 00:46:01,973
Speaker 13: them the iPad, she said, that absolutely lose it because

972
00:46:02,013 --> 00:46:06,653
Speaker 13: that's all they used to do. So she pot little boys,

973
00:46:06,693 --> 00:46:09,133
Speaker 13: they're very lucky. They live on a dear fun because

974
00:46:10,333 --> 00:46:14,813
Speaker 13: my daughter's husband is a dairy climmer and her biggest

975
00:46:14,813 --> 00:46:18,333
Speaker 13: worry at the moment is trying to get these two

976
00:46:18,333 --> 00:46:21,893
Speaker 13: who are not even at school age yet enrolled in

977
00:46:21,973 --> 00:46:25,973
Speaker 13: a local well it's quite close to her. It's a

978
00:46:26,013 --> 00:46:28,493
Speaker 13: country school that goes up to year seven and eight

979
00:46:29,293 --> 00:46:32,853
Speaker 13: and they don't let the kids have any iPads. And

980
00:46:32,893 --> 00:46:35,573
Speaker 13: she's going out of her way to get them enrolled

981
00:46:35,813 --> 00:46:39,333
Speaker 13: now at three and eighteen months old. Wow, because she

982
00:46:39,373 --> 00:46:40,573
Speaker 13: doesn't want a bar of it.

983
00:46:41,933 --> 00:46:42,133
Speaker 6: Right.

984
00:46:42,213 --> 00:46:46,373
Speaker 2: So at some schools they're even at school, they're giving

985
00:46:46,453 --> 00:46:50,573
Speaker 2: them the iPads and stuff and such. Yes, yes, well

986
00:46:50,613 --> 00:46:54,853
Speaker 2: that's not good. They're rewarding they reward right, yeah, yeah.

987
00:46:54,733 --> 00:46:57,373
Speaker 13: The iPad right, which is really wrong.

988
00:46:57,853 --> 00:47:00,733
Speaker 2: It's interesting because we've talked to a few teachers about

989
00:47:00,733 --> 00:47:03,692
Speaker 2: this on a different topic. A teacher that was talking

990
00:47:03,693 --> 00:47:06,293
Speaker 2: about how hard it is to run a class of

991
00:47:06,973 --> 00:47:09,893
Speaker 2: primary school kids that you know, twenty five thirty kids

992
00:47:09,933 --> 00:47:13,373
Speaker 2: because the teacher, I can't remember my name. They just

993
00:47:13,413 --> 00:47:15,853
Speaker 2: can't concentrate, and they've never heard, they've never heard no,

994
00:47:15,973 --> 00:47:19,333
Speaker 2: so they just go, they just rack up until they

995
00:47:19,333 --> 00:47:21,133
Speaker 2: get what they want, because that's what they do to

996
00:47:21,133 --> 00:47:22,773
Speaker 2: their parents. They go go go go, go, go, go

997
00:47:22,773 --> 00:47:25,013
Speaker 2: go go, and they please and then they finally get

998
00:47:25,013 --> 00:47:26,692
Speaker 2: handed the phone or the iPad.

999
00:47:28,093 --> 00:47:30,732
Speaker 13: Sosoe even said to me this morning, she said, Mum,

1000
00:47:30,733 --> 00:47:35,893
Speaker 13: you know, even George, he gets the iPad very very

1001
00:47:36,013 --> 00:47:39,373
Speaker 13: very seldomly at home because I think it's send him

1002
00:47:39,373 --> 00:47:41,413
Speaker 13: out on the farm with his dad and the tractor

1003
00:47:41,613 --> 00:47:44,013
Speaker 13: or you know, go up to the milkings and do whatever,

1004
00:47:44,573 --> 00:47:47,573
Speaker 13: but not on the iPad. But she said, even though

1005
00:47:47,613 --> 00:47:50,533
Speaker 13: he gets a really short time on the iPad from

1006
00:47:50,533 --> 00:47:53,893
Speaker 13: time to time, she said, even that makes him feral,

1007
00:47:53,933 --> 00:47:55,613
Speaker 13: because she says, when you want to take it away,

1008
00:47:55,733 --> 00:47:58,293
Speaker 13: they're so fixated on it that they do not want

1009
00:47:58,333 --> 00:47:58,813
Speaker 13: to give it up.

1010
00:47:58,933 --> 00:48:01,813
Speaker 2: It's too exciting. This the dopamine is too bad. How

1011
00:48:01,853 --> 00:48:04,692
Speaker 2: did you say that your daughter had two sons? Was it?

1012
00:48:05,893 --> 00:48:06,093
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1013
00:48:06,533 --> 00:48:09,333
Speaker 2: And what ages are they compared? How close are they

1014
00:48:09,373 --> 00:48:10,293
Speaker 2: in age to each other?

1015
00:48:11,293 --> 00:48:13,173
Speaker 13: I've got three year old in eighteen months?

1016
00:48:13,333 --> 00:48:15,693
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so I think is the eighteen

1017
00:48:15,733 --> 00:48:18,333
Speaker 2: month roll because that's kind of similar to my two sons,

1018
00:48:18,453 --> 00:48:20,853
Speaker 2: and I think that might be a saving grace for

1019
00:48:20,933 --> 00:48:23,093
Speaker 2: them because they will kind of they can kind of

1020
00:48:23,093 --> 00:48:26,373
Speaker 2: have similar interests being that close in age. And it's

1021
00:48:26,453 --> 00:48:28,573
Speaker 2: pretty pretty damn fun playing with your brother.

1022
00:48:28,813 --> 00:48:30,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean exactly.

1023
00:48:30,573 --> 00:48:33,693
Speaker 2: That might even be more fun than watching rubbish on

1024
00:48:33,733 --> 00:48:36,453
Speaker 2: an iPad or playing games on an iPad. Playing with

1025
00:48:36,493 --> 00:48:36,853
Speaker 2: your brother.

1026
00:48:37,973 --> 00:48:41,732
Speaker 13: It's just scary that, you know, yes, our kids get

1027
00:48:41,773 --> 00:48:46,973
Speaker 13: to do outside stuff, but there's just so many people

1028
00:48:47,093 --> 00:48:51,652
Speaker 13: who just don't give it there and it's easier to

1029
00:48:51,653 --> 00:48:54,013
Speaker 13: put them on the iPad. And I yes, you know,

1030
00:48:54,133 --> 00:48:58,533
Speaker 13: our kids had the Tellytubbies and whatever on TV, but

1031
00:48:58,573 --> 00:49:01,813
Speaker 13: it was not the same these you know, these parents

1032
00:49:01,853 --> 00:49:05,733
Speaker 13: are just putting their kids on YouTube and then it's

1033
00:49:05,813 --> 00:49:10,013
Speaker 13: just video the video. They don't even know what they're watching.

1034
00:49:10,253 --> 00:49:12,973
Speaker 3: Do you think some parents are at gunsand that. I'm

1035
00:49:13,013 --> 00:49:14,813
Speaker 3: just trying to think back to my childhood and we

1036
00:49:14,813 --> 00:49:17,973
Speaker 3: didn't have devices. But I'm pretty sure if there were

1037
00:49:18,013 --> 00:49:20,973
Speaker 3: devices around like iPads, Mum would have given me one.

1038
00:49:21,693 --> 00:49:24,173
Speaker 3: But by the very fact we didn't have one, that

1039
00:49:24,333 --> 00:49:26,053
Speaker 3: we had the telling and we had the computer, and

1040
00:49:26,053 --> 00:49:27,613
Speaker 3: there was time that we're allowed to do that, but

1041
00:49:27,653 --> 00:49:30,733
Speaker 3: it wasn't as addictive. So to say, hey, go and

1042
00:49:30,773 --> 00:49:32,933
Speaker 3: read a book or go play outside with your brother

1043
00:49:33,053 --> 00:49:35,173
Speaker 3: was a lot easier to do then kids these days

1044
00:49:35,173 --> 00:49:38,093
Speaker 3: who scream when they can't get there where your iPad fixed?

1045
00:49:39,213 --> 00:49:42,853
Speaker 13: Yeah? Absolutely, And I mean I've even stopped, you know,

1046
00:49:43,013 --> 00:49:47,413
Speaker 13: in the evenings watching stuff on screens, because I've got

1047
00:49:47,373 --> 00:49:50,213
Speaker 13: my stuff back into books, because I look at the

1048
00:49:50,213 --> 00:49:54,053
Speaker 13: books and you know, the explanation of everything is so

1049
00:49:54,173 --> 00:49:57,053
Speaker 13: much better than just you're watching the screen. You're not

1050
00:49:57,093 --> 00:49:59,813
Speaker 13: picking up something else that's in the room or this

1051
00:49:59,933 --> 00:50:03,133
Speaker 13: or that, but in the book they describe everything to you,

1052
00:50:03,253 --> 00:50:06,213
Speaker 13: and it's just I just felt that it's filling my

1053
00:50:06,373 --> 00:50:13,013
Speaker 13: mind so much more with stuffy and extra words and

1054
00:50:13,093 --> 00:50:16,053
Speaker 13: things that I need to learn. Then watching an on screen, well.

1055
00:50:15,973 --> 00:50:18,652
Speaker 2: They do ct scans on people's brains when they're reading book,

1056
00:50:18,733 --> 00:50:20,693
Speaker 2: because you know, you not only have to read, but

1057
00:50:20,733 --> 00:50:22,893
Speaker 2: you have to picture. So much of your brain is

1058
00:50:23,013 --> 00:50:27,413
Speaker 2: lit up by reading, and it is incredibly good. It's

1059
00:50:27,453 --> 00:50:29,613
Speaker 2: like it's like a workout. Reading is like going to

1060
00:50:29,653 --> 00:50:31,453
Speaker 2: the gym for your brain. It brings up, it builds

1061
00:50:31,493 --> 00:50:35,172
Speaker 2: up brain muscles. It's an incredible, incredible thing reading. And

1062
00:50:35,533 --> 00:50:38,973
Speaker 2: that's I mean, if kids can't even take not beyond

1063
00:50:39,333 --> 00:50:41,293
Speaker 2: you know, I've heard this as well. Good luck getting

1064
00:50:41,293 --> 00:50:44,653
Speaker 2: them to read Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings

1065
00:50:44,733 --> 00:50:46,653
Speaker 2: or something. Now, yeah, I mentionine trying to hand a

1066
00:50:46,773 --> 00:50:50,253
Speaker 2: kid that can hardly bear being off their iPad for

1067
00:50:50,293 --> 00:50:54,293
Speaker 2: thirty seconds a big chunky book. Yeah, like the deathly hellos.

1068
00:50:54,613 --> 00:50:57,573
Speaker 2: Tell them to read that. Good luck? Hey, thank you

1069
00:50:57,653 --> 00:51:01,213
Speaker 2: so much? Fair you know you finished them, you finished.

1070
00:51:01,453 --> 00:51:04,493
Speaker 13: It is quite It is quite sad though that you know,

1071
00:51:04,653 --> 00:51:09,493
Speaker 13: we're stealing these children of those opportunities of speaking their

1072
00:51:09,533 --> 00:51:12,732
Speaker 13: minds and their brains grown. Instead, you're giving them an

1073
00:51:12,773 --> 00:51:17,453
Speaker 13: iPad and basically turning them into I don't know, cat tato.

1074
00:51:17,893 --> 00:51:21,973
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well, good luck with your daughter's struggles at daycare.

1075
00:51:22,093 --> 00:51:25,493
Speaker 2: And I'm sure her two boys will will will benefit

1076
00:51:25,493 --> 00:51:27,733
Speaker 2: from being on a dairy farm and having a sibling

1077
00:51:27,813 --> 00:51:29,613
Speaker 2: so close in age. And good luck, Sam, Thank you.

1078
00:51:30,133 --> 00:51:32,333
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1079
00:51:32,373 --> 00:51:34,293
Speaker 3: Great call from Sam. But what do you say if

1080
00:51:34,333 --> 00:51:36,853
Speaker 3: you're a parent out there? How hard is it when

1081
00:51:36,893 --> 00:51:38,613
Speaker 3: your child wants the iPad? If you just want a

1082
00:51:38,613 --> 00:51:40,533
Speaker 3: bit of a breather at night, and have you tried

1083
00:51:40,573 --> 00:51:44,093
Speaker 3: to limit screen time? Nine nine text twenty two past two.

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Speaker 4: Mad Heathen Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 1: Afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on news

1086
00:51:52,613 --> 00:51:53,453
Speaker 1: Talk ZV.

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00:51:53,493 --> 00:51:56,732
Speaker 3: Forvery Good afternoon. We are talking about kids in screen time.

1088
00:51:56,853 --> 00:52:00,333
Speaker 3: So some pretty alarming research coming out that kids on

1089
00:52:00,373 --> 00:52:02,732
Speaker 3: average have about six hours screen time and that does

1090
00:52:02,853 --> 00:52:05,333
Speaker 3: terrible things for the brain. I love to hear from you, Oh,

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00:52:05,333 --> 00:52:06,172
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten.

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Speaker 2: Eighty how the sexes guys? I would love someone on

1093
00:52:08,053 --> 00:52:10,013
Speaker 2: your could dig up. The audio from one of The

1094
00:52:10,013 --> 00:52:13,733
Speaker 2: Weekend Collective regular guests on the exact topic was hilarious

1095
00:52:13,973 --> 00:52:17,373
Speaker 2: but thought provoking. Comparison would have been maybe three years ago.

1096
00:52:17,493 --> 00:52:20,693
Speaker 2: Though okay, okay, great show the Weekend Collective, but I

1097
00:52:20,693 --> 00:52:22,893
Speaker 2: don't think we've got access to one three years ago.

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00:52:23,093 --> 00:52:25,053
Speaker 3: It's a deep dive into the Cilia Lynn.

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00:52:25,493 --> 00:52:27,573
Speaker 2: It was along the lines of having found the perfect

1100
00:52:27,573 --> 00:52:30,333
Speaker 2: solution to keeping their kids quiet and entertained, allowing me

1101
00:52:30,453 --> 00:52:32,413
Speaker 2: to get on with my busy life. I just give

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00:52:32,413 --> 00:52:35,533
Speaker 2: them a glass of wine to start with it. I

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00:52:35,693 --> 00:52:38,133
Speaker 2: just give them a little bit. Then, when I looked

1104
00:52:38,173 --> 00:52:40,253
Speaker 2: the glass, took the glass away, they would complain they

1105
00:52:40,253 --> 00:52:42,853
Speaker 2: didn't have enough, and all their friends got more. So

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00:52:42,933 --> 00:52:44,973
Speaker 2: I gave them some more wine. Probably now as the

1107
00:52:45,013 --> 00:52:46,933
Speaker 2: amount of wine that they need each day to stay

1108
00:52:46,973 --> 00:52:50,333
Speaker 2: calm and leave me in peace has increased and through

1109
00:52:50,413 --> 00:52:52,373
Speaker 2: a mass of tantrum, if I didn't give them a bottle.

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00:52:52,613 --> 00:52:54,373
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's what you're doing.

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00:52:54,453 --> 00:52:57,733
Speaker 3: Yep, that's a good analogy. So it's just giving them

1112
00:52:57,773 --> 00:52:59,533
Speaker 3: a little bit more of the drive that they so

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00:52:59,653 --> 00:53:00,493
Speaker 3: desperately crave.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's I mean, is it that

1115
00:53:02,493 --> 00:53:05,573
Speaker 2: different giving them If it's making them dumber, as the

1116
00:53:05,613 --> 00:53:08,893
Speaker 2: study suggests out of Australia, then is it any better

1117
00:53:08,933 --> 00:53:10,093
Speaker 2: than giving them a glass of wine?

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00:53:10,173 --> 00:53:11,893
Speaker 3: Yeah? Good question. Rick.

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Speaker 6: How are you make good thanks yourself?

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00:53:15,093 --> 00:53:16,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, very well. So you reckon there was a bit

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00:53:17,013 --> 00:53:19,013
Speaker 3: of a difference between your daughters and son.

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00:53:20,133 --> 00:53:24,413
Speaker 6: Yeah, correct, correct, yep. I don't know whether just because

1123
00:53:24,453 --> 00:53:26,853
Speaker 6: they were always you know, falling on moms the mom's

1124
00:53:26,853 --> 00:53:29,253
Speaker 6: apron and whatnot in the kitchen and I me and

1125
00:53:29,293 --> 00:53:31,613
Speaker 6: the younger are outside don't want to do things or not.

1126
00:53:31,693 --> 00:53:36,573
Speaker 6: But I give my son he it was more of

1127
00:53:36,613 --> 00:53:41,293
Speaker 6: the the one that would really, really like it. We

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00:53:41,453 --> 00:53:43,493
Speaker 6: gave them one of those leaps thought like all the girls,

1129
00:53:43,493 --> 00:53:45,773
Speaker 6: all the kids had the same leap frog thing when

1130
00:53:45,813 --> 00:53:49,212
Speaker 6: they were younger, but it was only learning stuff. There's

1131
00:53:49,293 --> 00:53:51,333
Speaker 6: no free choice to stuff or anything there. And it

1132
00:53:51,413 --> 00:53:56,133
Speaker 6: would have been about four years old for and half right.

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00:53:56,133 --> 00:53:58,173
Speaker 3: And just sorry, just quickly, what's the leap frog? Is

1134
00:53:58,173 --> 00:54:00,613
Speaker 3: that like a educational show software?

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00:54:01,093 --> 00:54:04,493
Speaker 6: Well, it's like it's like it's like an iPad or

1136
00:54:04,573 --> 00:54:07,813
Speaker 6: one of those pad things, but it's strictly only got

1137
00:54:08,013 --> 00:54:11,373
Speaker 6: the leap breath from program thing on it. That's all

1138
00:54:11,413 --> 00:54:19,853
Speaker 6: about learning only. But also yeah, yeah, so so what

1139
00:54:19,973 --> 00:54:22,813
Speaker 6: happened was they you know, we get news and whatnot,

1140
00:54:22,853 --> 00:54:25,732
Speaker 6: and you know, fast forward a few years to well

1141
00:54:25,893 --> 00:54:28,172
Speaker 6: the young fella would got to about seven or eight.

1142
00:54:29,093 --> 00:54:32,333
Speaker 6: We noticed he was really starting to you know, after

1143
00:54:32,373 --> 00:54:35,533
Speaker 6: school he'd ask if we can jump on it, your

1144
00:54:35,533 --> 00:54:39,173
Speaker 6: homework everything, yep, yep, sweet and jump on it and

1145
00:54:39,213 --> 00:54:42,453
Speaker 6: then become a habit of like it was all good

1146
00:54:42,493 --> 00:54:46,493
Speaker 6: from going on. He had great attitudes. It's like previous

1147
00:54:46,533 --> 00:54:49,453
Speaker 6: people said that it was a timent on seeing it off.

1148
00:54:49,973 --> 00:54:53,173
Speaker 6: Oh man, you got a duckade because if it's only

1149
00:54:53,253 --> 00:54:56,053
Speaker 6: flying because he doesn't want to give it up. So

1150
00:54:56,533 --> 00:54:58,933
Speaker 6: we cut him down, my wife and I was seven

1151
00:54:58,973 --> 00:55:02,013
Speaker 6: down and we had a yarn with the his sister

1152
00:55:02,173 --> 00:55:05,773
Speaker 6: made looks, do you want this to vite or or

1153
00:55:05,773 --> 00:55:07,573
Speaker 6: you don't want it? There's obviously the answers that you

1154
00:55:07,613 --> 00:55:10,893
Speaker 6: wanted well to check this attitude that at the end

1155
00:55:10,893 --> 00:55:12,813
Speaker 6: of it which not going to give it to you, son,

1156
00:55:13,253 --> 00:55:16,973
Speaker 6: dance will be no resigned. So instead of just having

1157
00:55:16,973 --> 00:55:20,373
Speaker 6: free reign in the afternoon, we first started him off

1158
00:55:20,413 --> 00:55:25,213
Speaker 6: on two hours, and for we had really explained and

1159
00:55:25,413 --> 00:55:29,133
Speaker 6: stressed the point about him losing it as a punishment

1160
00:55:29,173 --> 00:55:34,053
Speaker 6: for the behavior as such. And then the long story short, yeah,

1161
00:55:34,293 --> 00:55:37,213
Speaker 6: the two hours worked for about three or four months,

1162
00:55:37,253 --> 00:55:41,493
Speaker 6: and then three attitude had ugly out and then we

1163
00:55:41,573 --> 00:55:45,053
Speaker 6: just cut it right back to the bar and half

1164
00:55:45,373 --> 00:55:49,973
Speaker 6: out sorry hours. And then on the weekend we had

1165
00:55:49,973 --> 00:55:51,533
Speaker 6: to sit him down and make a deal with him

1166
00:55:51,533 --> 00:55:54,053
Speaker 6: as such, like the compromise, So he had to control

1167
00:55:54,133 --> 00:55:57,373
Speaker 6: in the way and he got three hours on any

1168
00:55:57,413 --> 00:56:00,573
Speaker 6: given day on the weekend divided, he only had an

1169
00:56:00,573 --> 00:56:04,333
Speaker 6: hour after school any attitude, and he'd lose an hour

1170
00:56:04,853 --> 00:56:06,973
Speaker 6: over the weekend, right.

1171
00:56:07,333 --> 00:56:10,253
Speaker 2: So, and that worked. So at the end of the

1172
00:56:10,333 --> 00:56:14,133
Speaker 2: hour he would hand it over without trouble.

1173
00:56:15,133 --> 00:56:20,773
Speaker 6: Yeah, but come on hours up mate, really yeah? Or

1174
00:56:21,613 --> 00:56:24,933
Speaker 6: you know I just want to live life then or

1175
00:56:24,973 --> 00:56:26,773
Speaker 6: come back and just carrying on you lose it.

1176
00:56:27,173 --> 00:56:30,093
Speaker 2: And and what was the attitude either side of that

1177
00:56:30,573 --> 00:56:32,652
Speaker 2: after that, because a lot of people say that, you know,

1178
00:56:32,653 --> 00:56:34,733
Speaker 2: it's not just the time on, it's what the kids

1179
00:56:34,853 --> 00:56:38,533
Speaker 2: like after they get off. It just changes their ability

1180
00:56:38,613 --> 00:56:39,772
Speaker 2: to enjoy anything else.

1181
00:56:40,773 --> 00:56:43,333
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, that was a big thing we noticed too,

1182
00:56:43,573 --> 00:56:47,533
Speaker 6: was that once we'd actually stick the time down during

1183
00:56:47,573 --> 00:56:51,133
Speaker 6: you know, right down to the hour and week, his

1184
00:56:51,253 --> 00:56:53,573
Speaker 6: attitude afterwards and stuff. He was keen to do other

1185
00:56:53,613 --> 00:56:56,333
Speaker 6: stuff again. You know, he's a dead can go golfing,

1186
00:56:57,733 --> 00:57:00,413
Speaker 6: Let to go, you know. And I was like, hey,

1187
00:57:00,733 --> 00:57:06,333
Speaker 6: it seems to be like golf. That's good son down

1188
00:57:06,373 --> 00:57:12,893
Speaker 6: to the ground. But yes, And and the weekends because

1189
00:57:13,133 --> 00:57:16,293
Speaker 6: you know, Tuesday he had forty training, so jam is

1190
00:57:16,373 --> 00:57:19,413
Speaker 6: jam packed on Tuesday. The Thursday, same thing. Well, then

1191
00:57:19,453 --> 00:57:22,333
Speaker 6: Saturday he had rugby, so you know it was a

1192
00:57:22,333 --> 00:57:24,213
Speaker 6: big holes. The whole band would go out and what

1193
00:57:24,293 --> 00:57:26,933
Speaker 6: looks sports and everything, so he ended up being but

1194
00:57:27,093 --> 00:57:29,893
Speaker 6: naked to even players the game. We couldn't bet as

1195
00:57:30,173 --> 00:57:32,333
Speaker 6: you're in as device is that knack it up. There's

1196
00:57:32,373 --> 00:57:35,733
Speaker 6: some rugby and stuff. He ended up just watching TV

1197
00:57:35,893 --> 00:57:37,973
Speaker 6: or whatever in the round, just tilling out and then

1198
00:57:38,453 --> 00:57:40,173
Speaker 6: he might have it in an hour or two on

1199
00:57:40,213 --> 00:57:44,733
Speaker 6: the Sunday, and his attitude fully changed man for the better. Right, Well,

1200
00:57:44,853 --> 00:57:46,253
Speaker 6: did you worried about it?

1201
00:57:46,293 --> 00:57:46,453
Speaker 14: Man?

1202
00:57:48,213 --> 00:57:52,973
Speaker 6: Yeah, my wife's lit and fully attested. Would never never

1203
00:57:53,093 --> 00:57:55,333
Speaker 6: met the kids another like that. This is how we

1204
00:57:55,373 --> 00:57:57,453
Speaker 6: sort of don't just look through it as way or

1205
00:57:57,893 --> 00:58:00,613
Speaker 6: you know, give them more anten of but they look

1206
00:58:00,693 --> 00:58:02,333
Speaker 6: they feel like they're winning out of the dead or

1207
00:58:02,373 --> 00:58:05,653
Speaker 6: getting fifty fifty more instead of just know you're not

1208
00:58:05,693 --> 00:58:07,893
Speaker 6: having it and throw the cords at costous of that,

1209
00:58:08,613 --> 00:58:09,053
Speaker 6: I'll get.

1210
00:58:08,973 --> 00:58:12,373
Speaker 3: On you, right, Yeah, having that incentive, I can see

1211
00:58:12,373 --> 00:58:14,333
Speaker 3: how that would be that you say, hey, if you

1212
00:58:14,453 --> 00:58:18,253
Speaker 3: playball now, you know, it's almost like the that marshmallow experiment.

1213
00:58:18,293 --> 00:58:20,093
Speaker 3: Isn't it your playball now? And you're going to get

1214
00:58:20,093 --> 00:58:23,213
Speaker 3: a little bit extra on the weekend. Certainly a good strategy.

1215
00:58:23,213 --> 00:58:25,373
Speaker 3: But I don't know if Rick was talking about gaming,

1216
00:58:25,413 --> 00:58:28,093
Speaker 3: but that was always the one that got me as

1217
00:58:28,173 --> 00:58:31,413
Speaker 3: a kid was computer games and to have a time

1218
00:58:31,453 --> 00:58:32,933
Speaker 3: limit to say, right at the end of this hour,

1219
00:58:33,053 --> 00:58:34,813
Speaker 3: know whre snow butts. You've got to put that down.

1220
00:58:35,213 --> 00:58:37,133
Speaker 3: Really really upset me because you're in the middle of

1221
00:58:37,133 --> 00:58:39,373
Speaker 3: a mission. I like, mum, I've still going to finish

1222
00:58:39,413 --> 00:58:41,053
Speaker 3: this mission. I'm right in the middle. I can't save

1223
00:58:41,093 --> 00:58:42,853
Speaker 3: it right here. You've got to give me another twenty minutes,

1224
00:58:42,853 --> 00:58:44,693
Speaker 3: which that nut. If you don't get off, I'm going

1225
00:58:44,733 --> 00:58:45,333
Speaker 3: to cut the cord.

1226
00:58:45,613 --> 00:58:47,213
Speaker 2: I read this bot by this New Zealander I try

1227
00:58:47,253 --> 00:58:49,933
Speaker 2: to remember who he is. And it was on kids

1228
00:58:49,733 --> 00:58:53,093
Speaker 2: and anxiety and stuff. It's a great book. I think

1229
00:58:53,093 --> 00:58:54,893
Speaker 2: it was an ex policeman, but I look into it.

1230
00:58:54,893 --> 00:58:57,973
Speaker 2: But anyway, he was talking about one way to do

1231
00:58:58,133 --> 00:59:00,293
Speaker 2: kids is to ask them when do you think you'll

1232
00:59:00,293 --> 00:59:02,533
Speaker 2: be finished? So you can come over here to ask them.

1233
00:59:02,573 --> 00:59:06,773
Speaker 2: So nice because when you just grab it off them,

1234
00:59:07,173 --> 00:59:09,013
Speaker 2: I'll look it up. I look up the theory on it.

1235
00:59:09,173 --> 00:59:10,773
Speaker 2: When you just grab it off, and it creates an

1236
00:59:10,773 --> 00:59:13,813
Speaker 2: even bigger desire for it. Yeah, but if you put

1237
00:59:13,853 --> 00:59:16,973
Speaker 2: the agency on them so they choose when to get

1238
00:59:17,013 --> 00:59:19,973
Speaker 2: off it, then they get a buzz by doing the

1239
00:59:20,053 --> 00:59:22,213
Speaker 2: right thing. So they get a dopamine hit from doing

1240
00:59:22,213 --> 00:59:24,013
Speaker 2: the right thing and getting off and join the family.

1241
00:59:24,533 --> 00:59:26,333
Speaker 2: So if they're sitting there on it. You go, when

1242
00:59:26,333 --> 00:59:28,173
Speaker 2: do you think you come down and join the join

1243
00:59:28,253 --> 00:59:31,813
Speaker 2: the family. We're waiting for you. Then, I mean, this

1244
00:59:31,853 --> 00:59:34,333
Speaker 2: will sound naive to people have got you know, kids

1245
00:59:34,373 --> 00:59:36,213
Speaker 2: that are thirteen forty, and they go, this will never work.

1246
00:59:36,253 --> 00:59:38,533
Speaker 2: It sounds it sounds that the kids will just stay

1247
00:59:38,533 --> 00:59:40,813
Speaker 2: on there. But the theory on it is that they

1248
00:59:40,933 --> 00:59:42,973
Speaker 2: if you set up in a way that they can

1249
00:59:43,093 --> 00:59:45,253
Speaker 2: choose to do it, which may be the thing that

1250
00:59:45,373 --> 00:59:47,373
Speaker 2: you know with Reck was talking about because he choose,

1251
00:59:47,493 --> 00:59:49,133
Speaker 2: the kid could choose to go off and then he'd

1252
00:59:49,173 --> 00:59:50,973
Speaker 2: get the reward for it. Yeah, it was a bit

1253
00:59:50,973 --> 00:59:53,733
Speaker 2: more agency for the kid and as a result didn't

1254
00:59:53,773 --> 00:59:56,893
Speaker 2: create this crazy desire for it.

1255
00:59:57,013 --> 00:59:58,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can definitely see sense in that. Oh eight

1256
00:59:58,853 --> 01:00:01,013
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call.

1257
01:00:01,253 --> 01:00:03,813
Speaker 3: I'd love to hear from you. If you've got young children,

1258
01:00:03,853 --> 01:00:05,933
Speaker 3: how do you get them off the screens? Nine two

1259
01:00:06,013 --> 01:00:07,773
Speaker 3: nine two is their text on me headlines with railing

1260
01:00:07,813 --> 01:00:09,533
Speaker 3: coming up off the guy is.

1261
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1262
01:00:15,453 --> 01:00:19,133
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1263
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1264
01:00:21,573 --> 01:00:25,293
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1265
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1275
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Speaker 12: point five to five births per woman, but infant mortality

1276
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Ray Lean Lance Burdett was the person,

1282
01:01:25,333 --> 01:01:31,493
Speaker 2: wasn't it? Yes, the writer, the Kiwi guy X police officer.

1283
01:01:31,253 --> 01:01:34,773
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I follow him on Facebook. Actually fascinating individual

1284
01:01:34,773 --> 01:01:36,733
Speaker 3: and he's just written a book. I think it's called

1285
01:01:36,773 --> 01:01:39,133
Speaker 3: It's a Worry about Anxiety and Younger People.

1286
01:01:39,333 --> 01:01:43,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the book. It's fantastic. But yeah, his

1287
01:01:43,333 --> 01:01:45,653
Speaker 2: advice was and we'll reach out to him to get

1288
01:01:45,693 --> 01:01:49,933
Speaker 2: it clarified because I'm just remembering, but it was basically

1289
01:01:49,933 --> 01:01:52,613
Speaker 2: giving the kids for engineering ways that the kids have

1290
01:01:52,693 --> 01:01:56,973
Speaker 2: the agency to choose to get off the devices and

1291
01:01:57,053 --> 01:02:00,013
Speaker 2: therefore they can feel positive about it out of it

1292
01:02:00,133 --> 01:02:02,813
Speaker 2: as opposed to just being a confrontation and they just

1293
01:02:02,813 --> 01:02:04,133
Speaker 2: feel like something's been taken off them.

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01:02:04,213 --> 01:02:06,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. We wiring the

1295
01:02:06,613 --> 01:02:07,333
Speaker 3: brain so to speak.

1296
01:02:07,493 --> 01:02:11,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, what you say is when can you join us?

1297
01:02:11,893 --> 01:02:14,133
Speaker 2: When would you like to join us? You know? When

1298
01:02:14,173 --> 01:02:15,373
Speaker 2: would you like to put that down and come and

1299
01:02:15,453 --> 01:02:18,893
Speaker 2: join us? You know? And apparently it works.

1300
01:02:19,053 --> 01:02:21,533
Speaker 3: And we put a message in with Lance, so hopefully

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01:02:21,573 --> 01:02:23,053
Speaker 3: we can have a chat to them before this hour

1302
01:02:23,173 --> 01:02:23,453
Speaker 3: is out.

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01:02:23,573 --> 01:02:25,893
Speaker 2: Trevis says, hey, boys, we talk about children on screens,

1304
01:02:25,893 --> 01:02:27,813
Speaker 2: which is justified a lot, but we never discussed the

1305
01:02:27,813 --> 01:02:29,733
Speaker 2: amount of time adults spend on the screens. I think

1306
01:02:29,773 --> 01:02:31,693
Speaker 2: a lot of people would be shocked about the time

1307
01:02:31,733 --> 01:02:34,413
Speaker 2: spent by grown ups. Treva. Yeah, I mean that's the

1308
01:02:34,453 --> 01:02:36,773
Speaker 2: thing as well. Like if you're just sitting on the couch,

1309
01:02:37,413 --> 01:02:40,053
Speaker 2: and I've been guilty of this, You're supposed to be

1310
01:02:40,093 --> 01:02:42,333
Speaker 2: spending quality time with your family and you're sitting on

1311
01:02:42,613 --> 01:02:44,693
Speaker 2: the couch on your phone, then what do you think

1312
01:02:44,733 --> 01:02:45,493
Speaker 2: your kids are going to do?

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01:02:45,653 --> 01:02:46,653
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, exactly.

1314
01:02:46,813 --> 01:02:48,453
Speaker 2: You can't. You can't just put your phone down and

1315
01:02:48,533 --> 01:02:50,813
Speaker 2: yell at them to get off their phone, because you've

1316
01:02:50,813 --> 01:02:53,973
Speaker 2: demonstrated the way to live your life, haven't you Renee?

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01:02:54,013 --> 01:02:54,733
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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01:02:55,653 --> 01:02:57,093
Speaker 14: Hello, how are we saying?

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01:02:57,373 --> 01:02:59,933
Speaker 2: Good? Thanks for calling us today. Your thoughts on this?

1320
01:03:01,933 --> 01:03:05,053
Speaker 14: It's interesting I can kind of say both sides. I've

1321
01:03:05,053 --> 01:03:10,093
Speaker 14: gotten eleven year old and a nine year old, and look,

1322
01:03:10,213 --> 01:03:15,133
Speaker 14: we tried our hardest. I'm an ex Eca teacher, and

1323
01:03:15,493 --> 01:03:17,813
Speaker 14: I understood the importance of you know, keeping the muth

1324
01:03:17,813 --> 01:03:20,413
Speaker 14: screens when they're younger, But it really does get harder

1325
01:03:20,493 --> 01:03:25,613
Speaker 14: once you start to work. I work full time shift work.

1326
01:03:25,893 --> 01:03:29,213
Speaker 14: My husband owns the gold business. You're running a house,

1327
01:03:29,253 --> 01:03:34,053
Speaker 14: you know, like it is really really hard. But I suppose, yes,

1328
01:03:34,133 --> 01:03:37,253
Speaker 14: there's that million dollar question as winners the right age,

1329
01:03:37,293 --> 01:03:40,453
Speaker 14: I don't know if there is. It does worry me

1330
01:03:40,493 --> 01:03:44,413
Speaker 14: sometimes when I see, you know, mums in the mall

1331
01:03:44,733 --> 01:03:47,533
Speaker 14: and there's you know, like an eighteen month old sitting

1332
01:03:47,533 --> 01:03:52,253
Speaker 14: in a pram, you know, holding a phone, watching watching YouTube,

1333
01:03:52,293 --> 01:03:55,213
Speaker 14: and you're just like, oh no, but you know she's

1334
01:03:55,253 --> 01:03:58,013
Speaker 14: having her downtime. But just to see way off one

1335
01:03:58,093 --> 01:04:00,613
Speaker 14: hundred percent agree with what you guys are talking about.

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01:04:00,653 --> 01:04:05,413
Speaker 14: In relation to last we were massive advocates for giving

1337
01:04:05,413 --> 01:04:08,973
Speaker 14: a time frame. Yes you can you can watch this,

1338
01:04:09,213 --> 01:04:11,373
Speaker 14: or you can go at this, but you have it

1339
01:04:11,413 --> 01:04:16,413
Speaker 14: for half an hour. I would always give a time warning,

1340
01:04:16,613 --> 01:04:18,133
Speaker 14: you know, like you've got five minutes or you've got

1341
01:04:18,173 --> 01:04:21,133
Speaker 14: ten minutes to go buddy. Yep, cool, awesome, Yep. Would

1342
01:04:21,133 --> 01:04:27,373
Speaker 14: still get the arguments. But your children thrive and crave

1343
01:04:27,933 --> 01:04:31,813
Speaker 14: routines and boundaries, so you sort of if you can

1344
01:04:31,893 --> 01:04:36,733
Speaker 14: encompass that and wrap them with those, I think sometimes

1345
01:04:36,733 --> 01:04:41,533
Speaker 14: it is easier to prive them away from those devices.

1346
01:04:41,613 --> 01:04:47,813
Speaker 14: But yeah, it's hard. It's hard, especially when they're they're

1347
01:04:48,613 --> 01:04:52,573
Speaker 14: being asked to have them at primary school from I

1348
01:04:52,613 --> 01:04:59,293
Speaker 14: believe it's year four and right through to Yeah, I

1349
01:04:59,333 --> 01:05:04,133
Speaker 14: spoke high school we've just transitioned to intermediate, and first

1350
01:05:04,213 --> 01:05:06,373
Speaker 14: year of intermediate, my son came home at the start

1351
01:05:06,373 --> 01:05:09,613
Speaker 14: of the year and said, everyone that's on their screens

1352
01:05:09,653 --> 01:05:11,973
Speaker 14: at lunch time. And I was like, no, what are

1353
01:05:11,973 --> 01:05:14,733
Speaker 14: we doing? What are we you know, what have we lost?

1354
01:05:15,013 --> 01:05:18,613
Speaker 14: We've lost that play and that children interacting with each

1355
01:05:18,653 --> 01:05:20,453
Speaker 14: other and they don't know how to talk to each other.

1356
01:05:22,493 --> 01:05:27,053
Speaker 2: It's a concern you talk about Renee about you know, parents,

1357
01:05:27,053 --> 01:05:30,013
Speaker 2: they're busy and they've got a lot of you know,

1358
01:05:30,253 --> 01:05:32,093
Speaker 2: they don't have a lot of time, they're tired, they're

1359
01:05:32,413 --> 01:05:34,573
Speaker 2: both parents working, all that, all that kind of stuff.

1360
01:05:35,813 --> 01:05:41,453
Speaker 2: But the study points out that it doesn't solve the

1361
01:05:41,533 --> 01:05:45,613
Speaker 2: problem because they become less and less able to entertain

1362
01:05:45,653 --> 01:05:49,573
Speaker 2: themselves and they need more and more to be entertained.

1363
01:05:49,573 --> 01:05:52,013
Speaker 2: So it's it's kind of end up biting you in

1364
01:05:52,173 --> 01:05:54,093
Speaker 2: the what's the same biting.

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01:05:53,893 --> 01:05:56,773
Speaker 14: You in the in the in the jackson.

1366
01:05:58,773 --> 01:06:01,893
Speaker 2: Or something, because because you know, if your kids, if

1367
01:06:01,893 --> 01:06:04,333
Speaker 2: your kids do get bored, and boredom is great for

1368
01:06:04,373 --> 01:06:07,053
Speaker 2: the mind, and and people invent things when they're boored,

1369
01:06:07,173 --> 01:06:10,293
Speaker 2: vent ideas, and so if they're always going to the

1370
01:06:10,373 --> 01:06:13,093
Speaker 2: phone or the going to the iPad, for their entertainment

1371
01:06:13,133 --> 01:06:15,133
Speaker 2: and they never learned that idea, so they're always going

1372
01:06:15,173 --> 01:06:17,133
Speaker 2: to have it and they're always going to be a problem.

1373
01:06:17,493 --> 01:06:21,053
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I remember, I remember, I remember

1374
01:06:21,093 --> 01:06:22,853
Speaker 2: my dad saying to me once I came into and

1375
01:06:22,933 --> 01:06:26,973
Speaker 2: I said it on board, and he said, that's interesting, board,

1376
01:06:26,973 --> 01:06:32,773
Speaker 2: go outside. And it was basically the idea that it's

1377
01:06:32,773 --> 01:06:34,893
Speaker 2: a new idea that your parents are in charge of

1378
01:06:35,013 --> 01:06:37,333
Speaker 2: entertaining you. Was what I would say. That is that

1379
01:06:37,573 --> 01:06:41,173
Speaker 2: is a new development that that kids that parents owe

1380
01:06:41,173 --> 01:06:43,933
Speaker 2: their kids not to be bored. Yeah, I mean, kild

1381
01:06:44,133 --> 01:06:47,093
Speaker 2: just be bored kids, that's that's not I'll put a

1382
01:06:47,173 --> 01:06:50,253
Speaker 2: roof of your head. I feared you. I love you.

1383
01:06:50,333 --> 01:06:52,733
Speaker 2: I'm a good parent, but I'm not your I'm not

1384
01:06:52,773 --> 01:06:54,133
Speaker 2: here to provide your entertainment.

1385
01:06:54,293 --> 01:06:56,533
Speaker 3: Spot on. That was it. It was my parents here,

1386
01:06:56,573 --> 01:06:58,053
Speaker 3: get out of the house. I don't care what you do,

1387
01:06:58,253 --> 01:06:59,933
Speaker 3: but you're not allowed in the house. It's a nice day,

1388
01:06:59,973 --> 01:07:01,853
Speaker 3: it's a weekend. Go and entertain yourself.

1389
01:07:02,413 --> 01:07:06,653
Speaker 14: Yeah, we are where we're from advocates. I'm firm, but

1390
01:07:06,773 --> 01:07:11,053
Speaker 14: fear i'd say appearance in the style. But you are right,

1391
01:07:11,773 --> 01:07:14,693
Speaker 14: you don't give them the skills to learn how to

1392
01:07:15,213 --> 01:07:22,333
Speaker 14: explore and interact and find fun and then they don't

1393
01:07:22,373 --> 01:07:25,333
Speaker 14: know how to do it. So yeah, in a way,

1394
01:07:25,373 --> 01:07:27,533
Speaker 14: you sort of are sending them up to style. But yeah,

1395
01:07:27,573 --> 01:07:31,093
Speaker 14: I've had that discussion on a constant basis with Miam,

1396
01:07:31,453 --> 01:07:34,293
Speaker 14: especially my eleven year old now because we don't do

1397
01:07:34,373 --> 01:07:37,293
Speaker 14: gaming or anything like that. There's no playchase, PlayStations or

1398
01:07:37,333 --> 01:07:39,733
Speaker 14: anything like that. So but yeah, I'm just like, well,

1399
01:07:39,773 --> 01:07:41,333
Speaker 14: I don't really care. You can go and find something

1400
01:07:41,333 --> 01:07:44,213
Speaker 14: to do. You know how to find done, so sort

1401
01:07:44,213 --> 01:07:47,973
Speaker 14: of go and find it. But yeah, it's it's hard.

1402
01:07:48,053 --> 01:07:50,733
Speaker 14: It's hard. I think it's hard being appearing in the

1403
01:07:50,813 --> 01:07:51,933
Speaker 14: stand age unfortunately.

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01:07:52,173 --> 01:07:55,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is. Well, there's expectations on parents as well.

1405
01:07:56,013 --> 01:07:58,853
Speaker 2: I mean, I know I just thought about that but

1406
01:07:59,093 --> 01:08:01,253
Speaker 2: until just recently, but there was never an expectation on

1407
01:08:01,333 --> 01:08:05,253
Speaker 2: my parents to entertain me and never ever ever thought

1408
01:08:05,333 --> 01:08:07,693
Speaker 2: that that was their job. Yeah, and they were great parents.

1409
01:08:07,773 --> 01:08:11,333
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but that is now and if you take

1410
01:08:11,333 --> 01:08:14,053
Speaker 2: a kid out to a restaurant, then the expectation is

1411
01:08:14,093 --> 01:08:16,213
Speaker 2: that you entertain them because you know, mum and dad

1412
01:08:16,213 --> 01:08:19,572
Speaker 2: are having dinner or whatever. You're having dinner with your friends,

1413
01:08:19,773 --> 01:08:22,612
Speaker 2: So the expectation is that your kids couldn't possibly sit

1414
01:08:22,693 --> 01:08:26,013
Speaker 2: there and entertain themselves without being a dick. It's like, no,

1415
01:08:26,133 --> 01:08:28,892
Speaker 2: you're at a restaurant, eat some food and shut up.

1416
01:08:29,013 --> 01:08:31,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, play the little maids that you used to get

1417
01:08:31,013 --> 01:08:31,372
Speaker 3: in common.

1418
01:08:31,412 --> 01:08:31,572
Speaker 6: Go.

1419
01:08:31,732 --> 01:08:34,492
Speaker 3: But you're right. Whenever I said I'm bored, the answer

1420
01:08:34,532 --> 01:08:37,972
Speaker 3: I got was not my problem. Go and figure something out, Mike.

1421
01:08:38,013 --> 01:08:40,692
Speaker 2: I always thought taking my kids out to restaurants was

1422
01:08:40,732 --> 01:08:43,013
Speaker 2: a treat for them. But as they've gotten older, they

1423
01:08:43,053 --> 01:08:45,333
Speaker 2: both of them said to me, oh god, going for

1424
01:08:45,333 --> 01:08:48,532
Speaker 2: dinner was so boring. Just sitting there where mum and

1425
01:08:48,612 --> 01:08:51,412
Speaker 2: dad talked about stuff. It was so boring. We used

1426
01:08:51,412 --> 01:08:52,612
Speaker 2: to do read it. So, oh my god, you didn't

1427
01:08:52,652 --> 01:08:54,572
Speaker 2: like going to all those nice restaurants between you there,

1428
01:08:54,732 --> 01:08:55,412
Speaker 2: it was horrible.

1429
01:08:55,532 --> 01:08:57,692
Speaker 3: Spend all that money. Come on, mom and dad, wrap

1430
01:08:57,732 --> 01:08:59,612
Speaker 3: it up on board, all right. Take you more of

1431
01:08:59,652 --> 01:09:01,053
Speaker 3: your calls. We've got full boards at the moment. If

1432
01:09:01,093 --> 01:09:03,452
Speaker 3: you can't get through, keep trying. But screen time, what

1433
01:09:03,452 --> 01:09:05,572
Speaker 3: do you do in your household? Do you limit it?

1434
01:09:05,812 --> 01:09:08,452
Speaker 3: Or is it just a situation where you need to

1435
01:09:08,452 --> 01:09:10,133
Speaker 3: give the kids the iPad to get a bit of

1436
01:09:11,452 --> 01:09:14,053
Speaker 3: RNR So to speak, it is sixteen to three back

1437
01:09:14,053 --> 01:09:14,572
Speaker 3: in a mow.

1438
01:09:15,372 --> 01:09:17,812
Speaker 4: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1439
01:09:17,853 --> 01:09:21,732
Speaker 4: along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons news talks.

1440
01:09:21,732 --> 01:09:25,333
Speaker 3: They'd be very good afternoon, ju it is thirteen to three,

1441
01:09:25,412 --> 01:09:28,053
Speaker 3: having a great discussion about screen time and kids. Some

1442
01:09:28,053 --> 01:09:31,452
Speaker 3: pretty alarming research coming out about what it does to kids' brains.

1443
01:09:31,492 --> 01:09:33,172
Speaker 3: But can you hear what you do in your household?

1444
01:09:33,333 --> 01:09:36,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of scream time is making kids dumber. Unfortunately,

1445
01:09:37,412 --> 01:09:39,452
Speaker 2: give them both, but be smart about it. They need

1446
01:09:39,492 --> 01:09:42,213
Speaker 2: some time otherwise they get isolated from friends and trends.

1447
01:09:42,253 --> 01:09:45,492
Speaker 2: This is true, but make sure they're also getting their

1448
01:09:45,572 --> 01:09:50,012
Speaker 2: dose of outside time. Lego dolls, drawing, remote control cars, bikes, etc.

1449
01:09:50,612 --> 01:09:53,372
Speaker 2: Don't always have to be doing everything with them, but

1450
01:09:53,492 --> 01:09:56,532
Speaker 2: make sure they're available to them. That's an interesting one.

1451
01:09:56,572 --> 01:09:59,572
Speaker 2: I wonder because we all think Lego is great for kids,

1452
01:10:00,053 --> 01:10:02,093
Speaker 2: and I was obsessed with Lego and so are my kids.

1453
01:10:02,372 --> 01:10:03,172
Speaker 2: Says absolutely.

1454
01:10:03,173 --> 01:10:03,452
Speaker 9: Sis.

1455
01:10:03,853 --> 01:10:05,852
Speaker 2: We've got a Lego Avalanche at our house.

1456
01:10:05,853 --> 01:10:07,612
Speaker 3: It's a great thing Lego, But as.

1457
01:10:07,532 --> 01:10:09,772
Speaker 2: Minecraft, you need to from from Lego. I mean, you

1458
01:10:09,772 --> 01:10:13,572
Speaker 2: know that there are better things online than other things online, right, Yeah?

1459
01:10:13,732 --> 01:10:16,572
Speaker 2: Just watching some punishing video online is pretty bad or

1460
01:10:16,612 --> 01:10:19,253
Speaker 2: playing like a really stupid game, but created there are

1461
01:10:19,293 --> 01:10:20,852
Speaker 2: creative games online, yep.

1462
01:10:20,973 --> 01:10:23,932
Speaker 3: And games do wonderful things for the brain within moderation,

1463
01:10:24,093 --> 01:10:27,372
Speaker 3: as you say, certain games like Minecraft. Clearly, I think

1464
01:10:27,412 --> 01:10:30,293
Speaker 3: there are studies when you look at Minecraft creative games. Yeah, yeah,

1465
01:10:30,492 --> 01:10:31,612
Speaker 3: those great things for the brain.

1466
01:10:31,732 --> 01:10:33,732
Speaker 2: So it might not just be the time, it's actually

1467
01:10:33,732 --> 01:10:36,532
Speaker 2: what they're doing online as as well.

1468
01:10:37,372 --> 01:10:38,173
Speaker 3: Stu, how are you?

1469
01:10:39,812 --> 01:10:40,293
Speaker 11: Oh good?

1470
01:10:40,333 --> 01:10:44,293
Speaker 15: Thanks Toyler. I've got in a slightly different view. I

1471
01:10:44,333 --> 01:10:50,892
Speaker 15: think I'm sixty five, and I just I don't think

1472
01:10:50,933 --> 01:10:53,652
Speaker 15: we're in a position to judge this too too much

1473
01:10:53,732 --> 01:10:57,012
Speaker 15: because you know, when I was ten, my grandparents told

1474
01:10:57,053 --> 01:10:59,972
Speaker 15: me I shouldn't listen to the radio because it's going.

1475
01:10:59,893 --> 01:11:00,333
Speaker 11: To drive me.

1476
01:11:02,213 --> 01:11:03,053
Speaker 2: Good advice, you know.

1477
01:11:03,213 --> 01:11:08,732
Speaker 15: And things have changed, are changing so quickly that who's

1478
01:11:08,772 --> 01:11:10,972
Speaker 15: to say that we know the answers. I'm not being,

1479
01:11:11,452 --> 01:11:15,412
Speaker 15: you know, like born in nineteen sixty There's been so

1480
01:11:15,492 --> 01:11:18,932
Speaker 15: much change in my life in my lifetime. I can

1481
01:11:18,933 --> 01:11:21,133
Speaker 15: remember in color TV can ballets, to can watch the

1482
01:11:21,213 --> 01:11:24,293
Speaker 15: test the test pattern on my sister's TV because it

1483
01:11:24,412 --> 01:11:28,333
Speaker 15: was such an amazing thing to see. And now and

1484
01:11:28,372 --> 01:11:31,973
Speaker 15: now things are evolving so quickly that our kids are

1485
01:11:31,973 --> 01:11:35,972
Speaker 15: at school learning about jobs, that the learning stuff that's

1486
01:11:36,013 --> 01:11:38,412
Speaker 15: obsolete by the time they finish school because things have

1487
01:11:38,492 --> 01:11:41,253
Speaker 15: changed so much. And so if we've got all these

1488
01:11:41,293 --> 01:11:44,173
Speaker 15: screens and things here, it's a balancing thing. But when

1489
01:11:44,213 --> 01:11:45,333
Speaker 15: I was a kid, we used to go out and

1490
01:11:45,333 --> 01:11:46,653
Speaker 15: shoot shoot.

1491
01:11:46,333 --> 01:11:50,692
Speaker 2: People, not people, right, yeah, you know what you played war?

1492
01:11:51,732 --> 01:11:57,652
Speaker 15: We played war or the names we're not know And

1493
01:11:57,732 --> 01:12:00,253
Speaker 15: so all that happens now is we swap it for

1494
01:12:00,812 --> 01:12:03,052
Speaker 15: a screen and we blow people up and shoot people

1495
01:12:03,133 --> 01:12:06,173
Speaker 15: and all those things. And so it's a balancing thing,

1496
01:12:06,253 --> 01:12:10,732
Speaker 15: isn't it. I mean, it's certainly not a it's certainly

1497
01:12:10,772 --> 01:12:14,572
Speaker 15: not a place to just throw the kids to look after,

1498
01:12:15,452 --> 01:12:17,812
Speaker 15: for them to be looked after instead of the baby

1499
01:12:17,853 --> 01:12:20,732
Speaker 15: system because you haven't got time to do it. You know,

1500
01:12:20,812 --> 01:12:23,973
Speaker 15: my son, his grand kids they're at the rugby the

1501
01:12:24,013 --> 01:12:25,732
Speaker 15: other day, at the rugby League tongue.

1502
01:12:25,812 --> 01:12:26,372
Speaker 11: Some are.

1503
01:12:28,133 --> 01:12:31,452
Speaker 15: No, no, no, some are in New Zealand game and

1504
01:12:34,133 --> 01:12:37,252
Speaker 15: but they still have screen time. But it's about balancing,

1505
01:12:37,253 --> 01:12:37,932
Speaker 15: it has to be.

1506
01:12:39,013 --> 01:12:41,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's no doubt that there's Adults and older

1507
01:12:41,893 --> 01:12:44,213
Speaker 2: people have always been panicking about the state of what

1508
01:12:44,333 --> 01:12:47,093
Speaker 2: kids have been doing. I've told the story before on

1509
01:12:47,173 --> 01:12:50,013
Speaker 2: the show that my mum, her dad used to yell

1510
01:12:50,053 --> 01:12:52,692
Speaker 2: at her for reading too much. Get outside, you're reading

1511
01:12:52,732 --> 01:12:55,572
Speaker 2: too much. So you know, it's always it's always been

1512
01:12:55,612 --> 01:12:58,173
Speaker 2: the case, and you know, you read all the way

1513
01:12:58,213 --> 01:13:00,772
Speaker 2: back to ancient Rome. There's older people complaining about the

1514
01:13:00,812 --> 01:13:03,572
Speaker 2: kids not being disciplined enough, and they're you know, learning

1515
01:13:03,612 --> 01:13:06,812
Speaker 2: to fight properly, So there's no doubt about it. I

1516
01:13:06,853 --> 01:13:09,013
Speaker 2: guess with this thing that's a bit different, stew is

1517
01:13:09,013 --> 01:13:13,372
Speaker 2: that the entertainment on these iPads is just so entertaining,

1518
01:13:13,853 --> 01:13:18,333
Speaker 2: that the and the dopamine hits are so big that

1519
01:13:19,412 --> 01:13:23,732
Speaker 2: and everything is provided for them within them that nothing

1520
01:13:23,732 --> 01:13:27,412
Speaker 2: else can compare in terms of entertainment value. So you

1521
01:13:27,452 --> 01:13:30,452
Speaker 2: talk about running around and playing while we used to

1522
01:13:30,492 --> 01:13:32,492
Speaker 2: call it war when I was a kid, you had

1523
01:13:32,532 --> 01:13:34,732
Speaker 2: to make the rules up and you had to interact

1524
01:13:34,732 --> 01:13:36,412
Speaker 2: with the other kids. You had to invent the game

1525
01:13:36,612 --> 01:13:41,933
Speaker 2: pretty much. And that's using intelligence and developing intelligence and

1526
01:13:41,973 --> 01:13:45,412
Speaker 2: developing social skills and things that you can use utilize

1527
01:13:45,492 --> 01:13:49,492
Speaker 2: later in life and workplaces or you know, throughout your life,

1528
01:13:49,572 --> 01:13:52,452
Speaker 2: which maybe isn't the case when you're just playing a

1529
01:13:52,492 --> 01:13:56,333
Speaker 2: game on an iPad or entertainment iPad that is just

1530
01:13:56,532 --> 01:13:59,973
Speaker 2: engineered by large corporations to be so addictive and so

1531
01:14:00,013 --> 01:14:04,973
Speaker 2: exciting that you know, it's sort of zombie. ZOMBI sifies you. So,

1532
01:14:05,333 --> 01:14:07,932
Speaker 2: I don't know. Parents have always been worrying, and adults

1533
01:14:07,973 --> 01:14:10,412
Speaker 2: have already worrying about kids. But that doesn't mean that

1534
01:14:10,452 --> 01:14:13,652
Speaker 2: at some point the worry is justified, if you know

1535
01:14:13,692 --> 01:14:14,013
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1536
01:14:14,853 --> 01:14:17,372
Speaker 15: It's balanced, though, isn't it. I mean, how many times

1537
01:14:17,492 --> 01:14:20,333
Speaker 15: you've taken your kids out for dinner and I've done

1538
01:14:20,372 --> 01:14:22,732
Speaker 15: the same and you sit there and other people out

1539
01:14:22,772 --> 01:14:25,053
Speaker 15: as a family, four of them, mom and dad and

1540
01:14:25,053 --> 01:14:26,812
Speaker 15: two kids, and everyone's on the device.

1541
01:14:27,013 --> 01:14:28,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, suppressing, So.

1542
01:14:29,933 --> 01:14:33,053
Speaker 15: Yeah, and they don't care. That's what they do. So

1543
01:14:33,333 --> 01:14:35,532
Speaker 15: it's about you're going to You've got different skills of

1544
01:14:35,612 --> 01:14:39,092
Speaker 15: parents brought up in different ways where they want to limit,

1545
01:14:39,133 --> 01:14:43,652
Speaker 15: they want to develop the things that kids are exposed to,

1546
01:14:44,133 --> 01:14:46,652
Speaker 15: and others don't give a crap because it just makes

1547
01:14:46,692 --> 01:14:47,213
Speaker 15: them quiet.

1548
01:14:47,652 --> 01:14:50,013
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well that's true, isn't it. There's always there's

1549
01:14:50,053 --> 01:14:52,932
Speaker 2: always been that. There's always been parents that give more

1550
01:14:52,973 --> 01:14:55,972
Speaker 2: and less of a crap. Yeah, what's going on exactly?

1551
01:14:56,772 --> 01:14:58,253
Speaker 3: There would have been a lot of parents out there,

1552
01:14:58,293 --> 01:15:00,093
Speaker 3: Stew that said to their kids back in your day,

1553
01:15:00,133 --> 01:15:02,093
Speaker 3: you can listen to all the radio you want, even

1554
01:15:02,093 --> 01:15:04,372
Speaker 3: if it's bad for your ears, whereas your parents said, no,

1555
01:15:04,532 --> 01:15:05,812
Speaker 3: only so much radio, stew.

1556
01:15:07,372 --> 01:15:12,772
Speaker 15: But you know my grandparents to be fair. One little gem,

1557
01:15:13,412 --> 01:15:15,333
Speaker 15: little gem, I'll leave you with My mother told me,

1558
01:15:15,532 --> 01:15:17,812
Speaker 15: my mother of the rest. She died when I was young,

1559
01:15:17,853 --> 01:15:20,133
Speaker 15: but she told me that will was going to have

1560
01:15:20,853 --> 01:15:23,372
Speaker 15: helen the handcut when we got rid of when we

1561
01:15:23,412 --> 01:15:26,213
Speaker 15: invented tea bags and airplanes. And I said, what are

1562
01:15:26,213 --> 01:15:28,932
Speaker 15: you talking about? She said, when we made tea bags,

1563
01:15:29,093 --> 01:15:30,892
Speaker 15: no one sat down and brewed a cup of tea

1564
01:15:30,933 --> 01:15:31,972
Speaker 15: and sat around to talk.

1565
01:15:31,812 --> 01:15:32,412
Speaker 16: At the table.

1566
01:15:32,853 --> 01:15:37,812
Speaker 15: And when we invented planes, when we invented planes instead

1567
01:15:37,812 --> 01:15:40,892
Speaker 15: of instead of trains, how many times did you fly

1568
01:15:40,933 --> 01:15:43,412
Speaker 15: on a on a plane and sit next to someone

1569
01:15:43,452 --> 01:15:45,173
Speaker 15: and not say a word the whole time you're.

1570
01:15:45,053 --> 01:15:46,293
Speaker 3: On that plane?

1571
01:15:46,893 --> 01:15:48,572
Speaker 15: On a train, you went and sand on a train,

1572
01:15:49,013 --> 01:15:51,132
Speaker 15: and you walked on in the seats footground, and sometimes

1573
01:15:51,173 --> 01:15:54,532
Speaker 15: you're sitting facing someone and no matter how ignorant you were,

1574
01:15:54,812 --> 01:15:55,333
Speaker 15: spot on.

1575
01:15:55,333 --> 01:15:55,892
Speaker 4: Talk to them.

1576
01:15:55,973 --> 01:15:58,812
Speaker 2: Yet And I went wrong with the tea bags train.

1577
01:15:58,973 --> 01:16:02,093
Speaker 3: It's seven to three, the issues that.

1578
01:16:02,093 --> 01:16:04,412
Speaker 1: Affect you, and a bit of fun along the way.

1579
01:16:04,652 --> 01:16:08,053
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams as used talks.

1580
01:16:07,692 --> 01:16:08,093
Speaker 12: They'd be.

1581
01:16:09,772 --> 01:16:12,692
Speaker 2: It's been a great discussion, but we haven't solved the

1582
01:16:12,732 --> 01:16:14,972
Speaker 2: screen time problem as you'd expect. I think parents, though,

1583
01:16:15,013 --> 01:16:17,892
Speaker 2: should let themselves off the howk It's your job to feed,

1584
01:16:17,933 --> 01:16:20,572
Speaker 2: love and house your kids, not to entertain them. Let

1585
01:16:20,612 --> 01:16:23,412
Speaker 2: them get bored. It's really really good for them to

1586
01:16:23,452 --> 01:16:23,892
Speaker 2: be bored.

1587
01:16:24,013 --> 01:16:26,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, nicely said, made great discussion, Thank you very much.

1588
01:16:26,853 --> 01:16:29,372
Speaker 3: Coming up after three o'clock, we want to talk about

1589
01:16:29,372 --> 01:16:31,692
Speaker 3: the dating game in New Zealand. Just how bad a

1590
01:16:31,853 --> 01:16:34,372
Speaker 3: Key We men? Pretty bad according to some woman. Getting

1591
01:16:34,412 --> 01:16:34,812
Speaker 3: your views.

1592
01:16:34,853 --> 01:16:41,892
Speaker 4: Next, your new homes are instateful and entertaining talk. It's

1593
01:16:42,013 --> 01:16:48,133
Speaker 4: Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk sebby afternoon.

1594
01:16:48,253 --> 01:16:50,852
Speaker 3: Welcome back. It is seven past three. Awesome to have

1595
01:16:50,893 --> 01:16:53,173
Speaker 3: your company as always, so this is going to be

1596
01:16:53,173 --> 01:16:57,013
Speaker 3: an interesting discussion Key We Men useless at dating. This

1597
01:16:57,053 --> 01:16:59,772
Speaker 3: is after an article saying some women in New Zealand

1598
01:16:59,772 --> 01:17:03,253
Speaker 3: are calling out what they see as major emotional immaturity

1599
01:17:03,652 --> 01:17:06,572
Speaker 3: in Key We men and it's making dating feel shallow.

1600
01:17:06,612 --> 01:17:10,173
Speaker 3: Passive and disappointing. They say, so this was or the

1601
01:17:10,173 --> 01:17:13,852
Speaker 3: One of the women quoted was Ashley Tabor. She's from America,

1602
01:17:13,933 --> 01:17:16,372
Speaker 3: she's been here for five years, and she says that

1603
01:17:16,412 --> 01:17:19,452
Speaker 3: they found the local dating culture overly relaxed, with few

1604
01:17:19,492 --> 01:17:23,372
Speaker 3: men showing real initiative or vulnerability. And she said that

1605
01:17:23,412 --> 01:17:28,213
Speaker 3: the New Zealand's famelessly easy going social norms translate into

1606
01:17:28,293 --> 01:17:29,572
Speaker 3: lukewarm romantic effort.

1607
01:17:30,013 --> 01:17:31,492
Speaker 2: Ah, well screw her.

1608
01:17:31,933 --> 01:17:35,172
Speaker 3: Yeah, well she's gone now. Yeah, she's there to find.

1609
01:17:35,013 --> 01:17:38,093
Speaker 2: Her flew in and blamed ki we men for not

1610
01:17:38,213 --> 01:17:38,692
Speaker 2: liking her.

1611
01:17:38,812 --> 01:17:40,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly what she did.

1612
01:17:40,452 --> 01:17:42,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you struggle to find someone, is it because

1613
01:17:42,853 --> 01:17:45,013
Speaker 2: the options are bad? Or is it because you are

1614
01:17:45,133 --> 01:17:47,732
Speaker 2: a bad option? As the saying goes are key we

1615
01:17:47,772 --> 01:17:49,973
Speaker 2: men really useless at dating? I mean a lot of

1616
01:17:50,053 --> 01:17:52,372
Speaker 2: us seem to have partners. You've got one, yep, I've

1617
01:17:52,372 --> 01:17:52,812
Speaker 2: got one.

1618
01:17:52,893 --> 01:17:53,293
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1619
01:17:53,333 --> 01:17:56,253
Speaker 2: So you know, we managed to find some people.

1620
01:17:56,013 --> 01:17:57,253
Speaker 3: Good success right in this studio.

1621
01:17:57,293 --> 01:17:59,093
Speaker 2: I mean, are we are we useless at dating? Or

1622
01:17:59,133 --> 01:18:03,932
Speaker 2: is that down to earth? No fast way about us

1623
01:18:04,053 --> 01:18:04,532
Speaker 2: and daring?

1624
01:18:04,812 --> 01:18:07,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think expectations for a lot of people

1625
01:18:07,652 --> 01:18:10,652
Speaker 3: out there in the dating pool and you know, I

1626
01:18:10,692 --> 01:18:13,293
Speaker 3: can say this because I haven't been on Tinder for

1627
01:18:13,333 --> 01:18:15,133
Speaker 3: a good ten years since I've got together with Mate,

1628
01:18:15,173 --> 01:18:16,532
Speaker 3: so I've been out of the game for a long time.

1629
01:18:16,732 --> 01:18:19,013
Speaker 3: But it seems like from what I see online and

1630
01:18:19,053 --> 01:18:22,253
Speaker 3: what I hear from friends, expectations are through the roof.

1631
01:18:22,293 --> 01:18:25,972
Speaker 3: They are looking for the perfect man, the prince charming

1632
01:18:26,452 --> 01:18:30,013
Speaker 3: that earns good money and he is, you know, got

1633
01:18:30,013 --> 01:18:33,732
Speaker 3: all the social norms, sex foot over, sex foot, blue eyes,

1634
01:18:33,853 --> 01:18:36,213
Speaker 3: and he's just a perfect specimen. And I don't know

1635
01:18:36,213 --> 01:18:38,053
Speaker 3: about you, mate, but you know, those those men a

1636
01:18:38,093 --> 01:18:39,012
Speaker 3: few and far between.

1637
01:18:39,293 --> 01:18:43,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's better to find a you know, a

1638
01:18:43,812 --> 01:18:45,572
Speaker 2: matter of tiler.

1639
01:18:46,053 --> 01:18:47,492
Speaker 3: I was going to say that there's a couple in

1640
01:18:47,572 --> 01:18:50,732
Speaker 3: the studio, but you know we're taken. Sorry, ladies, but.

1641
01:18:52,652 --> 01:18:56,972
Speaker 2: This good there's good eating in the Matt and Tyler

1642
01:18:57,013 --> 01:18:59,412
Speaker 2: sort of range of people. Not not perfect, but'll but

1643
01:18:59,492 --> 01:19:00,772
Speaker 2: I'll give you a good life.

1644
01:19:00,652 --> 01:19:02,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, a good around that you know we're going to

1645
01:19:02,532 --> 01:19:04,213
Speaker 3: trusted at the crease to do something.

1646
01:19:04,253 --> 01:19:04,372
Speaker 16: Then.

1647
01:19:04,452 --> 01:19:08,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so there's this fear, uh, ladies, ken we

1648
01:19:08,853 --> 01:19:10,293
Speaker 2: mean useless at dating?

1649
01:19:11,053 --> 01:19:11,213
Speaker 17: Then?

1650
01:19:11,452 --> 01:19:15,532
Speaker 2: Is then is there not enough stock out there for you?

1651
01:19:15,772 --> 01:19:18,412
Speaker 2: Is there not enough good men? Out there for you. Yeah,

1652
01:19:18,572 --> 01:19:20,612
Speaker 2: or and look, let's flip it around for men as

1653
01:19:20,612 --> 01:19:25,333
Speaker 2: well as there are the key we woman letting you

1654
01:19:25,412 --> 01:19:27,092
Speaker 2: down in the dating front.

1655
01:19:27,253 --> 01:19:29,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on through under at eighty ten eighty. That

1656
01:19:29,652 --> 01:19:31,293
Speaker 3: must be a big part of it. It takes two

1657
01:19:31,293 --> 01:19:32,892
Speaker 3: to ten go as they say, so I'm sure it

1658
01:19:32,893 --> 01:19:35,612
Speaker 3: goes the other way around. But I wonder if it's

1659
01:19:35,732 --> 01:19:37,852
Speaker 3: part of it is the gamification of dating as well,

1660
01:19:38,333 --> 01:19:41,532
Speaker 3: that when you've got something like Tinder, you've got well

1661
01:19:41,572 --> 01:19:45,812
Speaker 3: so called multiple options. Maybe you don't, but it's if

1662
01:19:45,812 --> 01:19:47,652
Speaker 3: something doesn't work out, then you just pull out your

1663
01:19:47,652 --> 01:19:50,612
Speaker 3: phone and starts wiping again and hopefully within a couple

1664
01:19:50,652 --> 01:19:52,133
Speaker 3: of days you get another couple of matches and you

1665
01:19:52,213 --> 01:19:53,052
Speaker 3: try to try again.

1666
01:19:53,973 --> 01:19:56,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think you know they've done studies and

1667
01:19:57,532 --> 01:20:00,053
Speaker 2: to we talked about for fessis Scott Galloway has talked

1668
01:20:00,053 --> 01:20:04,933
Speaker 2: about this before, but that it ends up just the

1669
01:20:04,973 --> 01:20:09,652
Speaker 2: same people dating everyone. So on dating apps, women pick

1670
01:20:09,692 --> 01:20:11,732
Speaker 2: the same guys over and over, the same guy over

1671
01:20:11,772 --> 01:20:13,732
Speaker 2: and over again. A very small pool of guys gets

1672
01:20:13,732 --> 01:20:15,492
Speaker 2: picked by the same woman over again, and then those

1673
01:20:15,492 --> 01:20:18,132
Speaker 2: small pool of guys just go off and behave terribly

1674
01:20:18,412 --> 01:20:21,572
Speaker 2: over and over again. Yeah, Well everyone else just sort

1675
01:20:21,612 --> 01:20:23,652
Speaker 2: of swipes through and eventually gives up.

1676
01:20:23,853 --> 01:20:26,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Oh eight hundred eighty ten and eighty. If

1677
01:20:26,452 --> 01:20:28,692
Speaker 3: you are currently in the dating game, love to hear

1678
01:20:28,732 --> 01:20:33,013
Speaker 3: your experiences. So are k We men emotionally stunted when

1679
01:20:33,013 --> 01:20:34,972
Speaker 3: it comes to dating? And on the flip side of it,

1680
01:20:35,412 --> 01:20:37,333
Speaker 3: guys who are listening out there, what is it like

1681
01:20:37,452 --> 01:20:39,692
Speaker 3: when it comes to the woman that you're meeting? Oh

1682
01:20:39,732 --> 01:20:41,612
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

1683
01:20:41,692 --> 01:20:45,132
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number beg very shortly.

1684
01:20:45,173 --> 01:20:48,173
Speaker 3: It is ten pass three. On news Talk zid Bey

1685
01:20:48,452 --> 01:20:51,933
Speaker 3: it is thirteen past three. So we're talking about the

1686
01:20:52,013 --> 01:20:53,932
Speaker 3: dating scene in New Zealand at the moment. An article

1687
01:20:53,933 --> 01:20:56,732
Speaker 3: today that quotes many women who say New Zealand men

1688
01:20:57,013 --> 01:21:00,772
Speaker 3: are emotionally stunted and they've left the country to try

1689
01:21:00,812 --> 01:21:02,173
Speaker 3: and find a bit of dating pool. So what do

1690
01:21:02,213 --> 01:21:04,052
Speaker 3: you say about that? Oh, eighte hundred eighty ten eighty

1691
01:21:04,093 --> 01:21:04,852
Speaker 3: is the number to call?

1692
01:21:05,452 --> 01:21:08,293
Speaker 2: This Texas says, hey, guys, I married a lovely Chinese woman.

1693
01:21:08,452 --> 01:21:11,052
Speaker 2: I found that ki We women are too self entitled

1694
01:21:11,093 --> 01:21:14,173
Speaker 2: and what everything Now? None seemed to be interested in

1695
01:21:14,253 --> 01:21:17,652
Speaker 2: the hard yards and I want to be treated like queens.

1696
01:21:19,013 --> 01:21:20,932
Speaker 3: Keep those teas coming through. On nine two ninety two.

1697
01:21:21,612 --> 01:21:23,652
Speaker 2: That woman that you're talking about was probably high maintenance

1698
01:21:23,692 --> 01:21:28,012
Speaker 2: and there's high expectations. Yeah, my sister says, tinder men

1699
01:21:28,253 --> 01:21:34,452
Speaker 2: holding what ah Right, my sister says, tinder men holding

1700
01:21:34,492 --> 01:21:36,572
Speaker 2: a snappy snapper is an easy swipe?

1701
01:21:36,933 --> 01:21:37,173
Speaker 4: Right?

1702
01:21:37,853 --> 01:21:40,333
Speaker 3: They like that, an easy swipe to the left or right.

1703
01:21:40,372 --> 01:21:42,092
Speaker 3: I think that sounds like they want to see a snapper.

1704
01:21:42,372 --> 01:21:45,612
Speaker 2: That's the secondary question for this hour. Then if you're

1705
01:21:45,652 --> 01:21:49,492
Speaker 2: a woman and you're on a on an app and

1706
01:21:49,532 --> 01:21:52,692
Speaker 2: you see a man standing there holding a snapper, do

1707
01:21:52,772 --> 01:21:54,412
Speaker 2: you swipe? Which way? Do you swipe on that?

1708
01:21:54,452 --> 01:21:56,732
Speaker 3: You see a lot of those photos, SOB told, SOB told,

1709
01:21:56,772 --> 01:21:58,172
Speaker 3: I've been on Twitter for a week while.

1710
01:21:58,053 --> 01:21:59,612
Speaker 2: Do you like, Well, it depends are you swiping the

1711
01:21:59,612 --> 01:22:00,532
Speaker 2: snapper or the man?

1712
01:22:00,853 --> 01:22:01,053
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1713
01:22:01,093 --> 01:22:02,492
Speaker 3: Oh? Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is a

1714
01:22:02,532 --> 01:22:03,053
Speaker 3: number of cool.

1715
01:22:03,492 --> 01:22:04,492
Speaker 2: Mary, welcome to the show.

1716
01:22:06,372 --> 01:22:08,892
Speaker 5: Hi there. I'm probably going to get canfulled by most

1717
01:22:08,973 --> 01:22:13,812
Speaker 5: women open the fifty, but I'm just going to say it. So, Look,

1718
01:22:14,133 --> 01:22:17,053
Speaker 5: I think the thing is is my girlfriends, though I'm

1719
01:22:17,372 --> 01:22:21,052
Speaker 5: a fully you know, long term relationship being together between years.

1720
01:22:21,213 --> 01:22:24,333
Speaker 5: I've got a number of female friends around my age

1721
01:22:24,333 --> 01:22:26,612
Speaker 5: group from ound in the fifties, and all they're saying

1722
01:22:26,652 --> 01:22:29,572
Speaker 5: is that they can't find a decent man because the

1723
01:22:29,612 --> 01:22:32,532
Speaker 5: guys their age are looking for the younger woman and

1724
01:22:32,572 --> 01:22:35,692
Speaker 5: then only the old cottus they are out there, and

1725
01:22:35,772 --> 01:22:38,972
Speaker 5: so it's really difficult. I think it's a it's a

1726
01:22:38,973 --> 01:22:42,132
Speaker 5: it's a two way thing. I mean, women are fairly

1727
01:22:42,213 --> 01:22:44,412
Speaker 5: in the fend of these days. So if you want

1728
01:22:44,412 --> 01:22:46,012
Speaker 5: to weekened miles a woman within.

1729
01:22:45,933 --> 01:22:47,892
Speaker 15: Go, Yeah, it's pretty difficult.

1730
01:22:47,933 --> 01:22:48,213
Speaker 6: I think.

1731
01:22:48,253 --> 01:22:50,053
Speaker 11: I think it's both sides that both think it's just

1732
01:22:50,253 --> 01:22:51,293
Speaker 11: few With me, I.

1733
01:22:51,253 --> 01:22:53,973
Speaker 5: Think the women need to calm down a bit and

1734
01:22:54,093 --> 01:22:58,293
Speaker 5: balance out their needs and requirements rather than just depending.

1735
01:22:57,812 --> 01:22:58,253
Speaker 17: On the guy.

1736
01:22:58,372 --> 01:23:01,732
Speaker 5: You know, they need to you know, be themselves rather

1737
01:23:01,853 --> 01:23:04,532
Speaker 5: than rely on a guy to buy them flowers and

1738
01:23:04,893 --> 01:23:07,172
Speaker 5: things like that. So I think it's a two way stress.

1739
01:23:08,452 --> 01:23:11,572
Speaker 2: If you're if you're looking for a person you want

1740
01:23:11,612 --> 01:23:12,772
Speaker 2: to spend a lot of time with, I mean as

1741
01:23:12,772 --> 01:23:15,852
Speaker 2: opposed to just hook up apps or whatever or hooking up.

1742
01:23:16,412 --> 01:23:19,652
Speaker 2: Don't you want someone that's willing to show that. Isn't

1743
01:23:19,652 --> 01:23:21,492
Speaker 2: that part of it? You know, the man paying for

1744
01:23:21,532 --> 01:23:25,052
Speaker 2: dinner and flowers and stuff part showing that they're willing

1745
01:23:25,053 --> 01:23:25,892
Speaker 2: to make an investment.

1746
01:23:27,093 --> 01:23:30,812
Speaker 5: What's happening well, perstly for me and my friends, know,

1747
01:23:30,933 --> 01:23:34,852
Speaker 5: because we're abviously independent and we probably earned quite a

1748
01:23:34,933 --> 01:23:37,812
Speaker 5: decent amount of money, we're not into that. I think

1749
01:23:37,853 --> 01:23:42,652
Speaker 5: it's more around the emotional intelligence. There's more more algo

1750
01:23:42,853 --> 01:23:44,652
Speaker 5: rather than you know, for a lying on a guy.

1751
01:23:44,692 --> 01:23:47,372
Speaker 5: I think it's just having somebody that's on the same

1752
01:23:47,492 --> 01:23:50,973
Speaker 5: level and don't think they're around, especially in the perspects

1753
01:23:51,213 --> 01:23:54,133
Speaker 5: I'll be honest with you. You know, why would you go

1754
01:23:54,253 --> 01:23:55,732
Speaker 5: for somebody your own mayor if you can go for

1755
01:23:55,772 --> 01:23:58,973
Speaker 5: somebody younger and so being you end up with the

1756
01:23:59,053 --> 01:24:01,692
Speaker 5: really old ones like the sixty bis No, no, just

1757
01:24:02,253 --> 01:24:05,372
Speaker 5: sixty five year olds. But you know, yeah, I think

1758
01:24:05,372 --> 01:24:05,932
Speaker 5: it's difficult.

1759
01:24:05,973 --> 01:24:11,293
Speaker 2: I'm from email perspective. Do you also want to go

1760
01:24:11,412 --> 01:24:16,093
Speaker 2: younger or is it only only the dirty old men?

1761
01:24:18,253 --> 01:24:18,452
Speaker 17: No?

1762
01:24:18,812 --> 01:24:21,252
Speaker 5: I no, No, you wouldn't want to go younger.

1763
01:24:21,293 --> 01:24:25,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that would be where the emotional immaturity comes in.

1764
01:24:25,213 --> 01:24:27,732
Speaker 3: That if you are like, what's her name actually in

1765
01:24:27,772 --> 01:24:30,652
Speaker 3: this article and she's going ten years to junior, then

1766
01:24:30,732 --> 01:24:32,813
Speaker 3: that might be a problem there with the old immaturity,

1767
01:24:34,213 --> 01:24:34,852
Speaker 3: that's a problem.

1768
01:24:35,213 --> 01:24:38,532
Speaker 5: Look in the mirror. I mean, of course the sexteen

1769
01:24:38,612 --> 01:24:42,372
Speaker 5: years younger than you. Yeah, yeah, I think, Well, my

1770
01:24:42,452 --> 01:24:46,732
Speaker 5: experience with my girlfriends really trying to find somebody their

1771
01:24:46,772 --> 01:24:51,133
Speaker 5: own age. I'm not too old. It's just difficult. But

1772
01:24:51,173 --> 01:24:55,213
Speaker 5: I think I think that's we compromise and also trying

1773
01:24:55,253 --> 01:24:57,293
Speaker 5: to find a bit of a balance between what your

1774
01:24:57,333 --> 01:24:59,612
Speaker 5: needs are. And then she's just saying, hey, look, you

1775
01:24:59,652 --> 01:25:02,613
Speaker 5: know if they take some of the boxes, then that's

1776
01:25:03,213 --> 01:25:04,572
Speaker 5: taking none of them, because you.

1777
01:25:04,532 --> 01:25:07,492
Speaker 2: Can waste your entire life looking for the perfect person

1778
01:25:07,532 --> 01:25:13,333
Speaker 2: that may or may not exist. Yeah.

1779
01:25:13,452 --> 01:25:15,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to say, I mean casting my mind

1780
01:25:15,532 --> 01:25:16,412
Speaker 3: back ten years ago.

1781
01:25:16,492 --> 01:25:16,772
Speaker 10: Mary.

1782
01:25:16,812 --> 01:25:18,732
Speaker 3: The big thing I found when I was in the

1783
01:25:18,812 --> 01:25:21,812
Speaker 3: dating game is I couldn't deal with the games that

1784
01:25:21,853 --> 01:25:23,932
Speaker 3: got played. There were all these kind of rules that

1785
01:25:23,973 --> 01:25:26,372
Speaker 3: people were telling me about that you can't message back

1786
01:25:26,372 --> 01:25:29,093
Speaker 3: in a certain time period and vice versa. And I

1787
01:25:29,213 --> 01:25:31,932
Speaker 3: just got completely over that. And then when I met

1788
01:25:31,933 --> 01:25:34,173
Speaker 3: Mayve and she takes back straight away that this is

1789
01:25:34,173 --> 01:25:36,492
Speaker 3: the one, this is it, this is the girl, because

1790
01:25:36,532 --> 01:25:38,492
Speaker 3: there was no you know that the games just are

1791
01:25:38,572 --> 01:25:40,652
Speaker 3: so weird, like, well, why I put all those rules

1792
01:25:40,652 --> 01:25:42,572
Speaker 3: in place. Does it make you seem too eager? If

1793
01:25:42,572 --> 01:25:49,732
Speaker 3: you apply too fast.

1794
01:25:46,853 --> 01:25:49,173
Speaker 5: You might be limited the time.

1795
01:25:50,372 --> 01:25:54,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thanks for you call Mary. This person is

1796
01:25:54,612 --> 01:25:56,612
Speaker 2: an interesting point. The problem is we women tend not

1797
01:25:56,652 --> 01:25:59,173
Speaker 2: to like a man romantically the first time we meet them.

1798
01:25:59,612 --> 01:26:02,213
Speaker 2: We need to persevere a few more dates, and we

1799
01:26:02,213 --> 01:26:04,852
Speaker 2: shouldn't expect me to pay for dinner on these early dates.

1800
01:26:04,893 --> 01:26:07,452
Speaker 2: From apps, men, you need to stop paying for everything

1801
01:26:07,532 --> 01:26:09,692
Speaker 2: as most women have made up their mind that aren't

1802
01:26:09,732 --> 01:26:12,213
Speaker 2: going to date the man anyway, you'd still expect a

1803
01:26:12,253 --> 01:26:15,572
Speaker 2: free meal, So try to establish if you're having a

1804
01:26:15,612 --> 01:26:18,213
Speaker 2: second date or not before paying the bill. So that's

1805
01:26:18,213 --> 01:26:21,213
Speaker 2: from Samantha. But that's an interesting idea though, because I

1806
01:26:21,213 --> 01:26:23,452
Speaker 2: would think that you have to don't.

1807
01:26:23,253 --> 01:26:26,412
Speaker 3: You pay, because that's it'sactional like this, you know, because

1808
01:26:26,412 --> 01:26:28,412
Speaker 3: that's saying I'm only going to pay for this meal.

1809
01:26:28,452 --> 01:26:30,892
Speaker 3: If you agree to a second date, I'll just pay anyway,

1810
01:26:31,013 --> 01:26:32,772
Speaker 3: with the rest that it might not work out.

1811
01:26:32,772 --> 01:26:36,572
Speaker 2: If you ask someone out on the date, right then

1812
01:26:36,612 --> 01:26:38,932
Speaker 2: you have to pay because you've asked them out, and

1813
01:26:39,253 --> 01:26:43,532
Speaker 2: then you know wherever it's going because you've you've you

1814
01:26:43,532 --> 01:26:45,333
Speaker 2: have asked them to go out of their way to

1815
01:26:45,333 --> 01:26:47,732
Speaker 2: spend some time with you, so you pay for it.

1816
01:26:47,893 --> 01:26:48,732
Speaker 2: That's the way it.

1817
01:26:48,692 --> 01:26:51,173
Speaker 3: Works, even vice versa though. I mean, like, if I

1818
01:26:51,213 --> 01:26:52,932
Speaker 3: was in that situation and the woman asked me out

1819
01:26:52,933 --> 01:26:55,572
Speaker 3: for a date, I think I'd still like to pay.

1820
01:26:56,013 --> 01:26:57,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, you got to pay if you're the guy.

1821
01:26:57,732 --> 01:27:01,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, where you know, there's not being weirdly chivalrous,

1822
01:27:01,893 --> 01:27:03,532
Speaker 3: and that's just the thing that you've got to do.

1823
01:27:03,812 --> 01:27:07,093
Speaker 3: You can't allow the female to pay on the first date.

1824
01:27:07,173 --> 01:27:10,492
Speaker 3: That's crazy talk. You'll never see them again. You've never

1825
01:27:10,532 --> 01:27:12,933
Speaker 3: see them again at all. That's your first opportunity to

1826
01:27:12,973 --> 01:27:13,652
Speaker 3: make a good ambridge.

1827
01:27:13,732 --> 01:27:14,852
Speaker 2: But isn't it a nice thing to do?

1828
01:27:14,933 --> 01:27:15,093
Speaker 11: Though?

1829
01:27:15,133 --> 01:27:18,053
Speaker 2: It's not whether it's it's not a play or as

1830
01:27:18,093 --> 01:27:22,053
Speaker 2: you say, Tyler, a game or anything. Yeah, it's just

1831
01:27:23,213 --> 01:27:25,093
Speaker 2: pay for the date because you've gone out on it.

1832
01:27:25,133 --> 01:27:27,812
Speaker 2: Just pay for it, shut up. Yeah, and what it's

1833
01:27:27,812 --> 01:27:29,612
Speaker 2: not about what you get out of it? Yeah?

1834
01:27:29,612 --> 01:27:31,532
Speaker 3: Anyway, Oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty love

1835
01:27:31,572 --> 01:27:33,013
Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts on that. If you are in

1836
01:27:33,093 --> 01:27:35,052
Speaker 3: the dating game, does it get a bit awkward about

1837
01:27:35,053 --> 01:27:37,412
Speaker 3: who pays? And should the man pay for the first date?

1838
01:27:37,853 --> 01:27:38,013
Speaker 11: Hi?

1839
01:27:38,053 --> 01:27:40,532
Speaker 2: Guys, I found online dating. Okay, the odds are good,

1840
01:27:40,572 --> 01:27:43,372
Speaker 2: but occasionally the goods are odd. That's from Makaylin.

1841
01:27:43,412 --> 01:27:46,013
Speaker 3: That's pretty good. It is twenty bars three. Taking more

1842
01:27:46,053 --> 01:27:46,813
Speaker 3: of your calls.

1843
01:27:46,532 --> 01:27:54,293
Speaker 4: Next, Matt Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1844
01:27:54,293 --> 01:27:56,812
Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty On Youth Talk ZV it.

1845
01:27:56,772 --> 01:27:59,732
Speaker 3: Is twenty three pass three. So what is the dating

1846
01:27:59,732 --> 01:28:01,213
Speaker 3: game like in New Zealand? At the moment? On the

1847
01:28:01,213 --> 01:28:04,133
Speaker 3: back of an article, American woman she's been here five years,

1848
01:28:04,133 --> 01:28:06,892
Speaker 3: She calls New Zealand guys emotionally stunted. So she's left

1849
01:28:06,933 --> 01:28:09,652
Speaker 3: the country because she can't find a partner. But what

1850
01:28:09,652 --> 01:28:11,852
Speaker 3: do you say, really keen to have a chat with you?

1851
01:28:11,933 --> 01:28:13,973
Speaker 3: On eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1852
01:28:14,213 --> 01:28:16,732
Speaker 2: The sexer says, when you've been to Paris, Milan and Rome,

1853
01:28:16,812 --> 01:28:18,652
Speaker 2: then you return to New Zealand. Ken, we mean, are

1854
01:28:18,692 --> 01:28:21,813
Speaker 2: real slobs in their track pants, crocs worse? White birkenstocks

1855
01:28:21,812 --> 01:28:24,973
Speaker 2: and socks. White birkenstocks and socks. Has this person seen me?

1856
01:28:25,452 --> 01:28:27,412
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of white birkenstocks and socks.

1857
01:28:27,412 --> 01:28:29,652
Speaker 3: That's trendy now, but I mean it's absolutely true.

1858
01:28:29,652 --> 01:28:31,133
Speaker 2: If you go you know, I was in Paris not

1859
01:28:31,173 --> 01:28:33,892
Speaker 2: so long ago, and I couldn't believe how stylish everyone was.

1860
01:28:34,213 --> 01:28:36,892
Speaker 2: You'd see some dude riding past on a bike with

1861
01:28:37,013 --> 01:28:40,213
Speaker 2: a three and a half thousand dollars suit, smoking a cigarette, look,

1862
01:28:40,333 --> 01:28:43,852
Speaker 2: just looking really spectacular. Yeah, but that person may be

1863
01:28:43,973 --> 01:28:45,492
Speaker 2: a bit of a deck Yep.

1864
01:28:45,933 --> 01:28:46,293
Speaker 3: True.

1865
01:28:46,372 --> 01:28:48,532
Speaker 2: And there's something isn't there something good about the casual

1866
01:28:48,612 --> 01:28:51,492
Speaker 2: nature of unpretentious nature of Kiwi men.

1867
01:28:51,692 --> 01:28:55,172
Speaker 3: I like it. Yeah, I'm going to say something controversial here. Yeah,

1868
01:28:55,253 --> 01:28:58,173
Speaker 3: I think Aucklanders are better put together than Contebriance. I've

1869
01:28:58,213 --> 01:29:00,972
Speaker 3: just noticed that since I've been up here, Auckland doers

1870
01:29:00,973 --> 01:29:03,012
Speaker 3: tend to make more of an effort with the address,

1871
01:29:03,053 --> 01:29:06,732
Speaker 3: whereas christ Church people a little bit slobbish, a little

1872
01:29:06,732 --> 01:29:07,293
Speaker 3: bit slabbish.

1873
01:29:07,372 --> 01:29:08,892
Speaker 2: Well, if you go to my home, talent to need

1874
01:29:08,933 --> 01:29:10,452
Speaker 2: and gets another level of slabbish.

1875
01:29:10,692 --> 01:29:12,412
Speaker 3: Yeah it does actually, And there the south you go

1876
01:29:12,532 --> 01:29:13,412
Speaker 3: the wis it gets.

1877
01:29:13,253 --> 01:29:16,333
Speaker 2: Head over to the coast and that's a good level

1878
01:29:16,333 --> 01:29:16,812
Speaker 2: of sloabbish.

1879
01:29:16,893 --> 01:29:18,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, anything goes over there.

1880
01:29:18,053 --> 01:29:21,452
Speaker 2: But is it slobbish or is it you know, you're relaxed,

1881
01:29:21,492 --> 01:29:22,493
Speaker 2: a lack of pretense.

1882
01:29:22,572 --> 01:29:24,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're comfortable in your own skin.

1883
01:29:24,253 --> 01:29:25,213
Speaker 2: John welcome to the show.

1884
01:29:26,772 --> 01:29:30,812
Speaker 11: Yeah, good afternoon, just driving along listening to you guys.

1885
01:29:30,853 --> 01:29:35,333
Speaker 11: And the previous lady was on the on the on

1886
01:29:35,372 --> 01:29:38,412
Speaker 11: your show, I'd be watching with an old man. I'm

1887
01:29:38,492 --> 01:29:39,852
Speaker 11: sixty six dating?

1888
01:29:40,652 --> 01:29:41,253
Speaker 2: Are you dating?

1889
01:29:41,612 --> 01:29:45,492
Speaker 11: I disagree with it? Yeah, yeah, I disagree with one

1890
01:29:45,492 --> 01:29:48,852
Speaker 11: of the comments where she said fifty year weren't don't

1891
01:29:48,853 --> 01:29:50,932
Speaker 11: want to go for younger men on the dating sites?

1892
01:29:51,452 --> 01:29:53,612
Speaker 11: That on one one of them, and the number of

1893
01:29:53,652 --> 01:29:56,612
Speaker 11: women that are going for younger men, Good on them,

1894
01:29:56,612 --> 01:30:00,772
Speaker 11: good luck to them. Yeah, I'm look at it. I'm

1895
01:30:00,772 --> 01:30:05,053
Speaker 11: looking at people fifty plus. But to me, age is

1896
01:30:05,133 --> 01:30:10,093
Speaker 11: just a number. It's the person I look for. And yeah,

1897
01:30:10,532 --> 01:30:12,532
Speaker 11: just for paying. If I ask someone out, if I

1898
01:30:12,572 --> 01:30:16,132
Speaker 11: expect to pay, if they want to pay paid fifty

1899
01:30:17,253 --> 01:30:20,812
Speaker 11: good as gold. I putever over to them. I am

1900
01:30:20,812 --> 01:30:23,372
Speaker 11: a romantic. I will send flowers, send cards. I know

1901
01:30:23,893 --> 01:30:25,093
Speaker 11: problem about doing that.

1902
01:30:25,333 --> 01:30:30,973
Speaker 2: Good on you? So, yeah, And how many have you

1903
01:30:31,053 --> 01:30:33,932
Speaker 2: have you had? Have you met anyone in your time

1904
01:30:33,933 --> 01:30:36,532
Speaker 2: on dating apps that's gone on to be something serious?

1905
01:30:36,612 --> 01:30:41,493
Speaker 11: John, Yes, I have, Yes, I've had two serious relationships

1906
01:30:41,492 --> 01:30:47,293
Speaker 11: of dating apps. Yes, and they were very great. They

1907
01:30:47,333 --> 01:30:53,253
Speaker 11: were excellent ended for different reasons. Out they're trying to

1908
01:30:53,893 --> 01:30:54,772
Speaker 11: give it another shot.

1909
01:30:55,013 --> 01:30:57,133
Speaker 2: So how often would you go on a date? John,

1910
01:30:59,532 --> 01:31:00,132
Speaker 2: I've been.

1911
01:31:00,093 --> 01:31:02,972
Speaker 11: Single for about eighteen months. I've been out on about

1912
01:31:03,973 --> 01:31:05,012
Speaker 11: four three to four.

1913
01:31:06,093 --> 01:31:07,812
Speaker 2: And how soon when you get on a date do

1914
01:31:07,853 --> 01:31:11,972
Speaker 2: you realize, guys, Because obviously someone's profile is very different,

1915
01:31:12,652 --> 01:31:15,053
Speaker 2: you know, often obviously for a couple of reasons. A

1916
01:31:15,133 --> 01:31:17,732
Speaker 2: people are putting their best foot forward. And also it's

1917
01:31:17,812 --> 01:31:20,452
Speaker 2: it's it's not you know, a three D real meeting,

1918
01:31:20,532 --> 01:31:22,732
Speaker 2: and so it's hard to tell for sure. But how

1919
01:31:22,812 --> 01:31:25,492
Speaker 2: quickly on a date do you realize that it's a

1920
01:31:25,772 --> 01:31:29,932
Speaker 2: it's a possible, this person's a possibility for a relationship.

1921
01:31:31,173 --> 01:31:34,253
Speaker 11: Within the first few minutes, right, I mean you just

1922
01:31:34,532 --> 01:31:39,052
Speaker 11: once put out from five years ago or ten years ago,

1923
01:31:40,372 --> 01:31:42,532
Speaker 11: and I stand up and they're totally different to the photo.

1924
01:31:42,612 --> 01:31:46,213
Speaker 11: You know straight away to me, that's that's not being

1925
01:31:46,253 --> 01:31:48,253
Speaker 11: upfront and honest, we're all out there.

1926
01:31:48,612 --> 01:31:51,933
Speaker 2: It's also it's also a scam that's bound to be

1927
01:31:51,973 --> 01:31:52,452
Speaker 2: found out.

1928
01:31:52,612 --> 01:31:55,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. It's only so long you can bot that

1929
01:31:55,213 --> 01:31:58,612
Speaker 3: up before the truth comes out and you can.

1930
01:31:58,532 --> 01:32:00,892
Speaker 11: Say whatever you're like online. It's only when you meet

1931
01:32:00,973 --> 01:32:02,452
Speaker 11: up in person and.

1932
01:32:02,572 --> 01:32:05,293
Speaker 2: Have to back up what you're saying, so, how does

1933
01:32:05,333 --> 01:32:06,892
Speaker 2: the rest of the day go when you when you

1934
01:32:06,893 --> 01:32:09,692
Speaker 2: have already decided a couple of months, then it's going nowhere.

1935
01:32:11,333 --> 01:32:14,532
Speaker 11: Oh, you make pleasant conversation for a while and had

1936
01:32:14,572 --> 01:32:19,253
Speaker 11: a cup of coffee whatever, Yeah, and then leave there?

1937
01:32:20,372 --> 01:32:22,452
Speaker 2: Do you reckon over time? Because because you know, there's

1938
01:32:22,492 --> 01:32:26,093
Speaker 2: lots of people that you know that this sort of

1939
01:32:26,093 --> 01:32:30,012
Speaker 2: the transactional nature of of dating apps or the brief

1940
01:32:30,412 --> 01:32:33,892
Speaker 2: the brevity of it, because you can you know, lots

1941
01:32:33,893 --> 01:32:37,253
Speaker 2: of people have relationships that they meet someone, maybe it's

1942
01:32:37,372 --> 01:32:40,812
Speaker 2: at work or it's in a friend group, and it's

1943
01:32:40,853 --> 01:32:43,093
Speaker 2: nothing for a very long time, and then you know,

1944
01:32:43,173 --> 01:32:45,213
Speaker 2: even six months a year down the track, they suddenly

1945
01:32:45,293 --> 01:32:48,532
Speaker 2: realized that this is the person but they never but

1946
01:32:48,652 --> 01:32:50,892
Speaker 2: the first time they met them, it didn't didn't mean anything.

1947
01:32:50,933 --> 01:32:53,572
Speaker 2: So was that that concern John, that that trying to

1948
01:32:53,812 --> 01:32:56,093
Speaker 2: work out that this person is not is or isn't

1949
01:32:56,133 --> 01:32:59,253
Speaker 2: the person on one date is too difficult.

1950
01:33:01,013 --> 01:33:05,253
Speaker 11: The serious relationships that I've had I've got to come

1951
01:33:05,293 --> 01:33:09,052
Speaker 11: from dating apps. Within the first half hour down talking

1952
01:33:09,053 --> 01:33:12,532
Speaker 11: to someone, I realized that hey, there is something to

1953
01:33:12,572 --> 01:33:16,572
Speaker 11: this person, and that you can't talk talk about any

1954
01:33:16,612 --> 01:33:19,892
Speaker 11: subject to me being able to talk about any subject

1955
01:33:19,973 --> 01:33:23,652
Speaker 11: that comes up, including pastyste and all that sort of

1956
01:33:23,652 --> 01:33:28,372
Speaker 11: thing is vital because it forms you. It forms you. Sorry,

1957
01:33:28,412 --> 01:33:32,092
Speaker 11: you are that person that met at that other party

1958
01:33:32,532 --> 01:33:35,932
Speaker 11: as you are. All your faults and all your history

1959
01:33:36,133 --> 01:33:36,972
Speaker 11: make you what you are.

1960
01:33:37,173 --> 01:33:40,213
Speaker 3: Yep, is it harder? Do you think? I don't know

1961
01:33:40,213 --> 01:33:42,293
Speaker 3: whether you're dated as a younger man. I assume you did.

1962
01:33:42,333 --> 01:33:45,732
Speaker 3: But is it a bit harder when you are in

1963
01:33:45,772 --> 01:33:48,253
Speaker 3: your sixties that you know most people are in different

1964
01:33:48,253 --> 01:33:51,772
Speaker 3: stages of life a bit more or different experiences. Does

1965
01:33:51,812 --> 01:33:53,492
Speaker 3: that make it a little bit harder?

1966
01:33:55,013 --> 01:33:58,972
Speaker 11: Of course it does, because you're taking your experiences forward

1967
01:33:59,013 --> 01:34:02,052
Speaker 11: with you, and then you're meeting someone who maybe fifty

1968
01:34:02,093 --> 01:34:05,932
Speaker 11: plus in my case, who has similar experiences. So everyone

1969
01:34:05,973 --> 01:34:10,452
Speaker 11: has their garden, so you meet them, and everyone has

1970
01:34:10,492 --> 01:34:14,933
Speaker 11: their trigger points. No matter what I say, it's not

1971
01:34:15,013 --> 01:34:17,013
Speaker 11: a case of baggage. It's just things that you look

1972
01:34:17,053 --> 01:34:17,333
Speaker 11: out for.

1973
01:34:20,173 --> 01:34:24,812
Speaker 2: Now, John, John, You John, you would date ten years younger,

1974
01:34:24,812 --> 01:34:28,253
Speaker 2: But would you date ten years older than you?

1975
01:34:28,333 --> 01:34:29,053
Speaker 11: No?

1976
01:34:29,053 --> 01:34:31,612
Speaker 4: No, why No, I've got.

1977
01:34:32,933 --> 01:34:34,972
Speaker 11: I think I've got too much energy.

1978
01:34:35,732 --> 01:34:38,532
Speaker 15: I've got someone seventy six, seventy seven?

1979
01:34:39,173 --> 01:34:40,293
Speaker 16: No, they.

1980
01:34:42,013 --> 01:34:43,452
Speaker 11: What about I've got too much energy?

1981
01:34:43,492 --> 01:34:46,093
Speaker 2: What about five years older than you, John.

1982
01:34:47,213 --> 01:34:48,293
Speaker 11: I'd look at it again.

1983
01:34:48,652 --> 01:34:51,612
Speaker 4: You look at the person, Yeah yeah, and.

1984
01:34:51,532 --> 01:34:54,012
Speaker 11: You figure out whether you can be with that person

1985
01:34:54,572 --> 01:34:56,012
Speaker 11: as they are when you meet them.

1986
01:34:56,853 --> 01:34:58,452
Speaker 3: Well, good on you, John, Thanks for sharing and good

1987
01:34:58,532 --> 01:35:00,972
Speaker 3: luck out there. Yeah, fascinating. O. Eight one hundred eighty

1988
01:35:01,053 --> 01:35:03,293
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call if you are

1989
01:35:03,333 --> 01:35:05,732
Speaker 3: currently dating. What is it like if you're a woman.

1990
01:35:05,853 --> 01:35:09,452
Speaker 3: Do you agree with this article that Kiwi's are emotionally stunted?

1991
01:35:09,532 --> 01:35:11,812
Speaker 3: Kiwi men? Hey for fellas out there, how do you

1992
01:35:11,853 --> 01:35:14,173
Speaker 3: find it on the other side? Is there too much expectation?

1993
01:35:14,253 --> 01:35:14,333
Speaker 5: Oh?

1994
01:35:14,372 --> 01:35:16,372
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to call.

1995
01:35:16,532 --> 01:35:19,733
Speaker 2: And it's good to see a lot of support from

1996
01:35:19,893 --> 01:35:22,852
Speaker 2: ladies out there for the slobbishness of Kiwi.

1997
01:35:22,853 --> 01:35:25,372
Speaker 3: Mean, yeah, yes, it is nice to see some some

1998
01:35:25,572 --> 01:35:26,133
Speaker 3: ladies like that.

1999
01:35:29,053 --> 01:35:35,333
Speaker 12: You talk savy headlines with blue bubble taxis, it's no

2000
01:35:35,492 --> 01:35:38,892
Speaker 12: trouble with a blue bubble. Police say a man who

2001
01:35:38,973 --> 01:35:41,013
Speaker 12: died at the site of a fatal house fire in

2002
01:35:41,093 --> 01:35:44,053
Speaker 12: one or two cents and on Saturday didn't die in

2003
01:35:44,093 --> 01:35:47,972
Speaker 12: the blaze in which three children's lives were lost. They've

2004
01:35:47,973 --> 01:35:51,213
Speaker 12: been identified on a give a little page. The Green

2005
01:35:51,253 --> 01:35:54,772
Speaker 12: Party's made clear there'll be no consents or permits for coal,

2006
01:35:54,933 --> 01:35:58,132
Speaker 12: hard rock, gold and sea bed mining under its watch

2007
01:35:58,333 --> 01:36:01,933
Speaker 12: if it gets into government. Auckland's mayor is pitching to

2008
01:36:02,053 --> 01:36:05,492
Speaker 12: set up a national home for New Zealand basketball with

2009
01:36:05,612 --> 01:36:08,972
Speaker 12: a two hundred million dollar arena at Albany national team.

2010
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Speaker 12: The Breakers could make it their base. It would include

2011
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Speaker 12: a high performance training ground, community courts and a venue

2012
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Speaker 12: for school champs. A person is seriously injured after a

2013
01:36:18,333 --> 01:36:22,532
Speaker 12: two vehicle crash near Canterbury's twysel On Twyzel Or Mardamer

2014
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Speaker 12: Road near Lake Ohoe Road. Nathi Hikaiedos lifted Arajue Onedo

2015
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2016
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Speaker 12: for restoring burnt out areas of the wider park continues.

2017
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Speaker 12: An Auckland company has been fined after an employee died

2018
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Speaker 12: when the crane he was operating touched power lines. Read

2019
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2020
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Speaker 3: Well today we are joined by a natural path. July

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2027
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2066
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Speaker 18: labels and take own insurrectors about health or punt.

2067
01:38:51,253 --> 01:38:52,012
Speaker 2: Thanks Julie.

2068
01:38:52,173 --> 01:38:56,333
Speaker 3: That's Judy from about our Tyloratoms, and we are getting

2069
01:38:56,372 --> 01:38:59,013
Speaker 3: back to our discussion about dating the New Zealand. This

2070
01:38:59,093 --> 01:39:02,253
Speaker 3: was after an article that was published today from a

2071
01:39:02,293 --> 01:39:04,852
Speaker 3: bunch of New Zealand women, saying that key, we men

2072
01:39:04,893 --> 01:39:06,852
Speaker 3: are emotionally stunted, So I'd love to hear your thoughts

2073
01:39:06,893 --> 01:39:09,532
Speaker 3: on oh, eight hundred ten eighty if you want to

2074
01:39:09,532 --> 01:39:12,452
Speaker 3: send a text. Nine two ninety two is that number?

2075
01:39:13,572 --> 01:39:16,293
Speaker 2: Guys, All these young kiwis leaving the country are probably

2076
01:39:16,293 --> 01:39:19,333
Speaker 2: also heading overseas to look for partners in other countries

2077
01:39:19,652 --> 01:39:22,133
Speaker 2: other than just looking for work. Most won't admit it.

2078
01:39:22,133 --> 01:39:24,412
Speaker 2: Though the gene pool is limited in New Zealand, the

2079
01:39:24,412 --> 01:39:27,973
Speaker 2: possibilities of finding a beautiful, feminine, switched on woman overseas

2080
01:39:27,973 --> 01:39:31,133
Speaker 2: and larger populations is far more achievable. Dave yeh have it.

2081
01:39:31,133 --> 01:39:33,932
Speaker 2: There's more competition over there as well. Yeah, yeah, nicely

2082
01:39:33,973 --> 01:39:37,532
Speaker 2: said John is sixty six and in ten years time

2083
01:39:37,572 --> 01:39:39,412
Speaker 2: will be seventy six. Yet he is keen to get

2084
01:39:39,452 --> 01:39:41,812
Speaker 2: a fifty six year old who will only be sixty

2085
01:39:41,812 --> 01:39:45,052
Speaker 2: six inteen years like him now, and he'll need looking

2086
01:39:45,093 --> 01:39:46,333
Speaker 2: after him.

2087
01:39:46,452 --> 01:39:48,372
Speaker 3: No than he seemed like he was doing pretty well,

2088
01:39:48,412 --> 01:39:48,852
Speaker 3: Old John.

2089
01:39:49,213 --> 01:39:51,852
Speaker 2: John as a hypocrite, says Alex. He says age is

2090
01:39:51,933 --> 01:39:53,893
Speaker 2: just a number, but that only applies to him and

2091
01:39:53,973 --> 01:39:57,013
Speaker 2: younger woman. Funny that John practice what you preach, mate, well,

2092
01:39:57,053 --> 01:39:58,452
Speaker 2: he was very honest, John wasn't.

2093
01:39:58,293 --> 01:40:00,812
Speaker 3: He he was? He certainly was. Oh and this is

2094
01:40:00,853 --> 01:40:03,412
Speaker 3: the opposite side to the coin when it comes to John.

2095
01:40:03,532 --> 01:40:05,852
Speaker 2: Lee, that sixty six year old dude is the bomb.

2096
01:40:05,973 --> 01:40:09,293
Speaker 2: Someone who appreciates honesty and authentic can can clone him

2097
01:40:09,333 --> 01:40:10,692
Speaker 2: and all us women will be sorted.

2098
01:40:10,812 --> 01:40:14,452
Speaker 3: Nice. Keep those teaks coming through, Melena, how are you.

2099
01:40:15,973 --> 01:40:18,932
Speaker 3: I'm good, Thank you, very nice to chat with you.

2100
01:40:19,013 --> 01:40:22,812
Speaker 3: So you a migrant to New Zealand, but you've been

2101
01:40:22,853 --> 01:40:28,853
Speaker 3: here for twenty years. You're originally from Columbia, is it right, Yeah, yeah, Columbia, fantastic.

2102
01:40:28,893 --> 01:40:32,092
Speaker 3: So you've been single for two years. How is your

2103
01:40:32,133 --> 01:40:35,812
Speaker 3: your dating life at the moment? Molina? Okay.

2104
01:40:35,933 --> 01:40:41,852
Speaker 16: So I go on and off these apps and later

2105
01:40:42,053 --> 01:40:44,532
Speaker 16: be using Hinge because it's a little bit more. It's

2106
01:40:44,572 --> 01:40:47,612
Speaker 16: got a lot of more settings. You can enter things

2107
01:40:47,652 --> 01:40:50,492
Speaker 16: like you have kids, you don't have kids, use a smoke,

2108
01:40:50,532 --> 01:40:54,133
Speaker 16: you don't smoke. So it's kind of like they said,

2109
01:40:54,213 --> 01:40:56,852
Speaker 16: settings that you can at a glance, you get a

2110
01:40:57,013 --> 01:41:01,253
Speaker 16: feel for the person that you're looking at. And so

2111
01:41:02,093 --> 01:41:06,253
Speaker 16: I get very discouraged because most of the time people

2112
01:41:06,333 --> 01:41:10,492
Speaker 16: just don't get up to you or really the texting

2113
01:41:10,732 --> 01:41:12,492
Speaker 16: back and forth, something I don't really like.

2114
01:41:12,572 --> 01:41:13,253
Speaker 14: I much.

2115
01:41:13,372 --> 01:41:16,052
Speaker 16: Rather, I prefer to go and meet someone straight away.

2116
01:41:16,133 --> 01:41:19,772
Speaker 16: So what I usually do is, but like someone, I go, uh,

2117
01:41:19,853 --> 01:41:21,772
Speaker 16: would you like to grab a coffee after a couple

2118
01:41:21,772 --> 01:41:26,173
Speaker 16: of texts? Because I can't be bothered texting back and forth.

2119
01:41:26,572 --> 01:41:29,532
Speaker 16: So that's what I do. But what I find in

2120
01:41:29,612 --> 01:41:32,652
Speaker 16: terms of what are you're talking about about paying is

2121
01:41:32,692 --> 01:41:36,133
Speaker 16: that in my opinions, I can see both sides of

2122
01:41:36,133 --> 01:41:39,372
Speaker 16: the stories. I mean, like back back in Columbia, usually

2123
01:41:39,452 --> 01:41:43,093
Speaker 16: I always paid for the to go in on a

2124
01:41:43,253 --> 01:41:46,732
Speaker 16: thirst day. But here I kind of I sort of

2125
01:41:46,772 --> 01:41:49,452
Speaker 16: get the fact that if you're a guy and you're

2126
01:41:49,492 --> 01:41:51,892
Speaker 16: always expected to pay, it can be it can be

2127
01:41:52,013 --> 01:41:54,652
Speaker 16: very costly. And also for a girl, it creates a

2128
01:41:54,692 --> 01:41:57,732
Speaker 16: little bit of an expectation that if you if you

2129
01:41:58,452 --> 01:42:00,692
Speaker 16: if the guys are paying, that you re sort of

2130
01:42:00,772 --> 01:42:02,892
Speaker 16: like feel like you have to see them again. So

2131
01:42:02,973 --> 01:42:05,372
Speaker 16: what I do usually is that if I if I

2132
01:42:05,412 --> 01:42:08,892
Speaker 16: want to see somebody again and they of to pay,

2133
01:42:09,093 --> 01:42:14,173
Speaker 16: then I let them pay, so that if the opportunity

2134
01:42:14,213 --> 01:42:16,812
Speaker 16: comes again and we go out together, I get the

2135
01:42:16,893 --> 01:42:19,412
Speaker 16: chance to pay as well. But what I don't like

2136
01:42:19,812 --> 01:42:22,812
Speaker 16: is when guys actually don't even bother to ask you.

2137
01:42:23,293 --> 01:42:26,532
Speaker 16: I like to have the option because it just really

2138
01:42:26,893 --> 01:42:32,173
Speaker 16: comes across as the guys are real gentlemen and and

2139
01:42:32,213 --> 01:42:35,013
Speaker 16: so I've had instances where he's just the guy just

2140
01:42:35,053 --> 01:42:37,133
Speaker 16: sits behind him for a coffee, just waiting for you

2141
01:42:37,173 --> 01:42:40,412
Speaker 16: to pay first. And this is just really awful. I

2142
01:42:41,293 --> 01:42:44,053
Speaker 16: had that happened in the last couple of dates, and

2143
01:42:44,133 --> 01:42:47,652
Speaker 16: I gave the guy the benefit of the doubt. But

2144
01:42:47,812 --> 01:42:51,932
Speaker 16: even going out for drinks, he will be there first,

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01:42:51,933 --> 01:42:54,213
Speaker 16: that he will be eating, and he will even not

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01:42:54,333 --> 01:42:58,053
Speaker 16: offer what he was eating. And I think this was

2147
01:42:58,133 --> 01:43:04,492
Speaker 16: just and I just I really wanted to give him

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01:43:05,013 --> 01:43:08,732
Speaker 16: another chance because I actually liked him, and this very

2149
01:43:08,772 --> 01:43:12,453
Speaker 16: few chances where you find someone that you like physically

2150
01:43:12,492 --> 01:43:16,172
Speaker 16: and as so full as it sounds, it's very shallow,

2151
01:43:16,532 --> 01:43:20,652
Speaker 16: but you you can't in my opinion, I just I

2152
01:43:20,772 --> 01:43:23,572
Speaker 16: have to be there that chemistry, that physical chemistry, because

2153
01:43:23,572 --> 01:43:26,812
Speaker 16: you don't have the organic meetings that used to happen

2154
01:43:26,893 --> 01:43:29,652
Speaker 16: back in the day where you met people are your

2155
01:43:29,692 --> 01:43:33,492
Speaker 16: friends and where you were at UNI or as. Yeah,

2156
01:43:33,652 --> 01:43:34,612
Speaker 16: that's that sort of thing.

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01:43:34,732 --> 01:43:38,213
Speaker 2: Anyway, what about if so you know you you said

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01:43:38,213 --> 01:43:40,333
Speaker 2: that you want them to offer the opportunity. But what

2159
01:43:40,452 --> 01:43:42,612
Speaker 2: if say he just got up and went and paid

2160
01:43:42,652 --> 01:43:44,732
Speaker 2: and came back to the table and said, of paid,

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01:43:44,732 --> 01:43:46,412
Speaker 2: would that be right? So it hasn't offered you the

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01:43:46,452 --> 01:43:48,892
Speaker 2: opportunity pay. He's just taken out of your hands and paid.

2163
01:43:48,973 --> 01:43:50,213
Speaker 2: Is that okay for you?

2164
01:43:51,732 --> 01:43:59,092
Speaker 16: Well, that's okay for me. But that never happened. That happens.

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01:43:59,213 --> 01:44:02,612
Speaker 16: That happens with friends, and has got close key with friends,

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01:44:02,732 --> 01:44:06,733
Speaker 16: and they are absolutely generous, and this is really beautiful

2167
01:44:06,812 --> 01:44:09,892
Speaker 16: and I really appreciate that, and I have I like

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01:44:09,973 --> 01:44:12,693
Speaker 16: to have the opportunity to also return the favor. But

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01:44:12,692 --> 01:44:16,492
Speaker 16: but it's just the fact that I like to be asked,

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01:44:16,933 --> 01:44:19,173
Speaker 16: even if I want to pay, I like to be asked,

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01:44:19,893 --> 01:44:22,093
Speaker 16: you know. And then if I like the person, I

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01:44:22,133 --> 01:44:26,253
Speaker 16: go thank you yes. And also you just go for

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01:44:26,333 --> 01:44:28,692
Speaker 16: a coffee or a drink and you just don't going fourteenner.

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01:44:28,732 --> 01:44:31,293
Speaker 16: I don't like going forteen It's because if I don't

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01:44:31,372 --> 01:44:32,812
Speaker 16: like the person, I don't want to see there for

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01:44:32,853 --> 01:44:34,932
Speaker 16: two hours. I want to be able to have a

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01:44:34,933 --> 01:44:37,452
Speaker 16: coffee and go in the next and then and then

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01:44:37,612 --> 01:44:41,812
Speaker 16: and in the fifteen minutes you have in between you know,

2179
01:44:42,053 --> 01:44:44,732
Speaker 16: getting there and just starting a chat you know, you

2180
01:44:45,013 --> 01:44:45,253
Speaker 16: want to.

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01:44:45,253 --> 01:44:48,732
Speaker 2: Continue to you don't think across a meal someone could

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01:44:48,772 --> 01:44:52,013
Speaker 2: turn you around. So you know, in fifteen minutes, so

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01:44:52,412 --> 01:44:54,412
Speaker 2: what about another half hour and your Sunday go. Actually,

2184
01:44:54,452 --> 01:44:56,053
Speaker 2: this guy is kind of funny, you know, it's a

2185
01:44:56,093 --> 01:44:59,372
Speaker 2: bit fugly, but he's got something exactly.

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01:44:59,452 --> 01:45:02,732
Speaker 16: But I guess you start with a coffee, uh, and

2187
01:45:02,812 --> 01:45:06,133
Speaker 16: then and then go from there. I am Columbian, so

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01:45:06,133 --> 01:45:07,012
Speaker 16: I go for coffee.

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01:45:07,492 --> 01:45:12,492
Speaker 2: Yeah what I yea. And from your perspective, as the

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01:45:13,612 --> 01:45:16,932
Speaker 2: woman that started this conversation, can we mean slobs?

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01:45:19,372 --> 01:45:20,692
Speaker 16: Uh? Slobs?

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01:45:20,772 --> 01:45:21,532
Speaker 3: What slops?

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01:45:23,253 --> 01:45:28,293
Speaker 2: I guess to not not not turned out nicely, don't

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01:45:28,372 --> 01:45:29,372
Speaker 2: dress very well?

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01:45:32,893 --> 01:45:37,252
Speaker 16: Yeah? Well yeah, that's that's another thing.

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01:45:35,093 --> 01:45:38,813
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:45:38,973 --> 01:45:45,692
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think she's right, I think and I think

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01:45:45,732 --> 01:45:49,133
Speaker 16: that also comes from my culture, like we really we

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01:45:49,333 --> 01:45:52,052
Speaker 16: really like take fright on and turn up or really

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01:45:52,093 --> 01:45:53,572
Speaker 16: well dressed up, even for work.

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01:45:53,812 --> 01:45:54,333
Speaker 14: Yeah right.

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01:45:54,893 --> 01:45:57,133
Speaker 16: And I and I work in a public sector and

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01:45:57,173 --> 01:45:59,013
Speaker 16: a lot of times people say to me, are you

2204
01:45:59,053 --> 01:46:00,812
Speaker 16: going for an interview? And I'm like, no, I'm just

2205
01:46:00,853 --> 01:46:04,053
Speaker 16: coming to work. But that's just me and my and

2206
01:46:04,133 --> 01:46:07,053
Speaker 16: my culture. But I do appreciate the you know the

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01:46:07,093 --> 01:46:10,492
Speaker 16: easiness of the key culture and whiby. You just and

2208
01:46:10,572 --> 01:46:13,532
Speaker 16: you're pretty relaxed. And I've changed out a lot as

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01:46:13,532 --> 01:46:16,772
Speaker 16: well throughout the years because become more relaxed about it.

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01:46:17,532 --> 01:46:20,612
Speaker 16: I do like going on a date looking well, like

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01:46:20,893 --> 01:46:23,772
Speaker 16: I just it's so forul when you know, you just

2212
01:46:23,812 --> 01:46:27,053
Speaker 16: turn up in a First of all, you need to

2213
01:46:27,093 --> 01:46:29,013
Speaker 16: be like you're handsing to be clean, you.

2214
01:46:28,973 --> 01:46:32,772
Speaker 2: Know, like nice, got to clean your nails.

2215
01:46:32,372 --> 01:46:34,732
Speaker 16: And yeah, your nails, but you'll be good price.

2216
01:46:35,452 --> 01:46:37,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, just get a brush out and give a bit

2217
01:46:38,053 --> 01:46:39,173
Speaker 2: of you know, like.

2218
01:46:40,173 --> 01:46:41,973
Speaker 3: Just scrub the dirt out of your fingernails. Isn't it

2219
01:46:42,013 --> 01:46:42,452
Speaker 3: not too hard?

2220
01:46:42,532 --> 01:46:42,692
Speaker 16: You know?

2221
01:46:42,772 --> 01:46:45,492
Speaker 2: I think some woman like a trade's hands. They look,

2222
01:46:45,732 --> 01:46:47,492
Speaker 2: this is a guy that works hard with his hands.

2223
01:46:47,532 --> 01:46:51,972
Speaker 2: But you can't be having did up the fingernail figure

2224
01:46:52,013 --> 01:46:53,293
Speaker 2: out before you head out to the date.

2225
01:46:53,372 --> 01:46:58,732
Speaker 3: That's right. And the shoes the shows.

2226
01:46:58,812 --> 01:47:01,412
Speaker 2: What about flip flops? If a guy turns up the

2227
01:47:01,492 --> 01:47:02,932
Speaker 2: date and flip flops, is that all right?

2228
01:47:04,173 --> 01:47:04,572
Speaker 14: Yeah?

2229
01:47:04,612 --> 01:47:07,053
Speaker 16: Well depends on the date. If you're going to a

2230
01:47:07,133 --> 01:47:10,892
Speaker 16: restaurant or something and then they turn up in flip flops,

2231
01:47:10,933 --> 01:47:12,692
Speaker 16: I think it's a little bit.

2232
01:47:12,812 --> 01:47:14,812
Speaker 2: Flip flops and socks not good.

2233
01:47:14,973 --> 01:47:18,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, not even Burking stops. Yeah.

2234
01:47:18,492 --> 01:47:20,973
Speaker 2: Oh well, good luck up there, Lena, and thanks so

2235
01:47:21,053 --> 01:47:22,732
Speaker 2: much for ing in talking to us. Thank you for

2236
01:47:22,732 --> 01:47:24,452
Speaker 2: your insights, appreciate it.

2237
01:47:24,853 --> 01:47:26,132
Speaker 16: Thank you all right.

2238
01:47:25,933 --> 01:47:28,093
Speaker 3: Good luck, Thank you very much. Interesting. Oh eight one

2239
01:47:28,133 --> 01:47:29,693
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty's.

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01:47:29,372 --> 01:47:30,772
Speaker 2: A lot of people after Molina's number.

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01:47:30,933 --> 01:47:31,093
Speaker 10: Good.

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01:47:31,333 --> 01:47:32,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're not We're a radio show, we're not

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01:47:33,013 --> 01:47:33,852
Speaker 2: a dating site.

2244
01:47:33,933 --> 01:47:36,852
Speaker 3: Well, let's just keep her on and see if she's interested. Oh,

2245
01:47:36,893 --> 01:47:38,933
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

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01:47:38,933 --> 01:47:40,732
Speaker 3: call back in a mo It's quarter to four.

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01:47:41,812 --> 01:47:45,173
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Tyler Adams with You is your afternoon rolls

2248
01:47:45,213 --> 01:47:48,652
Speaker 1: on madd Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

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01:47:48,652 --> 01:47:50,572
Speaker 3: It'd be it is twelve to four.

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01:47:51,372 --> 01:47:53,372
Speaker 2: Mark says arm As, you guys would base this whole

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01:47:53,372 --> 01:47:55,572
Speaker 2: discussion on the opinion of a bitter, twisted woman who

2252
01:47:55,572 --> 01:47:59,532
Speaker 2: has decided to inflict herself somewhere else. Sheers, Mark. Look, Mark,

2253
01:48:00,293 --> 01:48:02,133
Speaker 2: I've based whole shows and a funny look I've got

2254
01:48:02,213 --> 01:48:04,612
Speaker 2: in the lift. This is actually pretty solid ground for

2255
01:48:04,652 --> 01:48:05,133
Speaker 2: a whole show.

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01:48:05,173 --> 01:48:06,652
Speaker 3: This is a lot of research that we've done on

2257
01:48:06,652 --> 01:48:08,972
Speaker 3: this topic. Isn't ready one article.

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01:48:09,053 --> 01:48:10,892
Speaker 2: I'm very proud of this of it. Yeah, you can't

2259
01:48:10,893 --> 01:48:14,093
Speaker 2: take that away from us. Maxine, Welcome to the show.

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01:48:15,333 --> 01:48:19,973
Speaker 17: Oh hi, hello, Ray Hi, I've got a bit of

2261
01:48:20,013 --> 01:48:22,173
Speaker 17: a list. I had my teeth done last week, so

2262
01:48:22,213 --> 01:48:23,412
Speaker 17: I hope you can understand me.

2263
01:48:23,452 --> 01:48:24,692
Speaker 2: Okay, loud and clear.

2264
01:48:24,772 --> 01:48:29,692
Speaker 17: Maxccene, Oh great, Hi. I'm actually a widow and I

2265
01:48:29,812 --> 01:48:32,213
Speaker 17: ended up back on the dating scene.

2266
01:48:32,812 --> 01:48:35,492
Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm sorry to hear that you're widowed. How

2267
01:48:35,492 --> 01:48:37,253
Speaker 2: long have you been back on the date? How long

2268
01:48:37,333 --> 01:48:38,812
Speaker 2: is that time frame? How long you been back on

2269
01:48:38,812 --> 01:48:39,333
Speaker 2: the dating scene?

2270
01:48:39,372 --> 01:48:41,892
Speaker 3: Maccine, Well, I was married for.

2271
01:48:41,893 --> 01:48:46,013
Speaker 17: Twenty six years, so I last dated when I was twenty.

2272
01:48:45,772 --> 01:48:46,492
Speaker 14: Six years old.

2273
01:48:47,253 --> 01:48:51,053
Speaker 17: And so my children are growing up and everything, and

2274
01:48:51,492 --> 01:48:54,372
Speaker 17: I lost my husband and I decided to start dating

2275
01:48:55,333 --> 01:49:00,053
Speaker 17: for eight months after he had passed away, and and

2276
01:49:00,452 --> 01:49:03,732
Speaker 17: you know, it's been it's been quite hilarious. Actually, I've

2277
01:49:03,772 --> 01:49:07,052
Speaker 17: been quite a rollercoaster. But I just wanted to tell

2278
01:49:07,093 --> 01:49:14,652
Speaker 17: you thing, key we guys and etc. Is I probably

2279
01:49:14,692 --> 01:49:18,253
Speaker 17: went on about twelve dates with local guys from around

2280
01:49:18,253 --> 01:49:21,772
Speaker 17: the Wellington region and there was only one that bought

2281
01:49:21,812 --> 01:49:25,732
Speaker 17: flowers for me for the first date, and that guy

2282
01:49:25,893 --> 01:49:27,213
Speaker 17: was a South African.

2283
01:49:31,412 --> 01:49:34,572
Speaker 2: Boys. But but how was it when you so? Did

2284
01:49:34,572 --> 01:49:35,452
Speaker 2: you meet at a restaurant?

2285
01:49:35,492 --> 01:49:35,973
Speaker 3: And he was?

2286
01:49:36,293 --> 01:49:38,253
Speaker 2: He was he just turned up with what flowers mine

2287
01:49:38,333 --> 01:49:39,692
Speaker 2: is back? Or how did that work out?

2288
01:49:39,853 --> 01:49:42,852
Speaker 17: No? No, no, I broke all the rolls. You know,

2289
01:49:43,253 --> 01:49:45,933
Speaker 17: I hadn't dated for so long. I decided to be

2290
01:49:45,973 --> 01:49:48,013
Speaker 17: a bit of a rebel. And my son will be

2291
01:49:48,013 --> 01:49:50,692
Speaker 17: listening to this too because he loves news talks the day,

2292
01:49:50,772 --> 01:49:55,333
Speaker 17: so he'll be hopefully cracking up. But anyway, I got

2293
01:49:55,333 --> 01:49:58,572
Speaker 17: a lot of the first dates. Ye're all horrified. Yeah,

2294
01:49:58,772 --> 01:50:00,692
Speaker 17: I think that a lot of the first states where

2295
01:50:01,093 --> 01:50:03,652
Speaker 17: I cahos took them online for you know, maybe a

2296
01:50:03,692 --> 01:50:05,812
Speaker 17: few days or a week to see how long they

2297
01:50:05,812 --> 01:50:10,492
Speaker 17: would stay stay connected with me, and then I would

2298
01:50:10,492 --> 01:50:12,333
Speaker 17: actually invite them back to my place to pick me

2299
01:50:12,452 --> 01:50:14,852
Speaker 17: up and take me out for dinner because they would say, oh,

2300
01:50:14,893 --> 01:50:16,532
Speaker 17: do you want to go for coffee? Go for a drink,

2301
01:50:16,572 --> 01:50:18,972
Speaker 17: and I'd go and see, let's go for dinner. Why

2302
01:50:18,973 --> 01:50:21,572
Speaker 17: don't we go out for dinner? Because I felt like

2303
01:50:21,973 --> 01:50:24,492
Speaker 17: I didn't have anybody to take me out for dinner anymore.

2304
01:50:25,093 --> 01:50:27,372
Speaker 17: And all my friends went out for dinner, and I thought,

2305
01:50:27,652 --> 01:50:30,532
Speaker 17: you need for me? I wanted that extra time to

2306
01:50:31,013 --> 01:50:35,293
Speaker 17: get to know somebody. You know somebody in fifteen minutes.

2307
01:50:35,692 --> 01:50:37,492
Speaker 2: So the South African turned up at your door with

2308
01:50:37,572 --> 01:50:39,812
Speaker 2: the flowers. He did.

2309
01:50:41,093 --> 01:50:44,133
Speaker 17: It, the only one, the only one that tuned up

2310
01:50:44,133 --> 01:50:47,333
Speaker 17: with anything. And it also gave me good opportunity for

2311
01:50:47,452 --> 01:50:53,772
Speaker 17: what you know, to see what car they were driving

2312
01:50:53,893 --> 01:50:57,892
Speaker 17: and it stuff as well.

2313
01:50:58,572 --> 01:51:01,532
Speaker 2: But what was the South African with the flowers like?

2314
01:51:02,213 --> 01:51:03,812
Speaker 2: Was he all right after the you know, the flowers

2315
01:51:03,812 --> 01:51:05,013
Speaker 2: are a good start, But how did the rest of

2316
01:51:05,053 --> 01:51:05,213
Speaker 2: it go?

2317
01:51:06,333 --> 01:51:07,972
Speaker 16: The flowers were a good start.

2318
01:51:08,532 --> 01:51:11,933
Speaker 17: I was very impressed by that. I was surprised that

2319
01:51:12,133 --> 01:51:16,532
Speaker 17: more men didn't bring flowers because I'm fifty five years

2320
01:51:16,572 --> 01:51:19,133
Speaker 17: old and I was looking at me and my age yep,

2321
01:51:19,333 --> 01:51:21,652
Speaker 17: and that. And I was surprised that you know, so

2322
01:51:21,853 --> 01:51:25,293
Speaker 17: really wanted to hook hook a good lady. They needed

2323
01:51:25,333 --> 01:51:27,253
Speaker 17: to pull it out of the bed a little bit.

2324
01:51:27,732 --> 01:51:30,532
Speaker 3: How many more days did how many more days did

2325
01:51:30,572 --> 01:51:32,932
Speaker 3: JEV with the South African? Did he have good chet?

2326
01:51:33,812 --> 01:51:34,012
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2327
01:51:34,293 --> 01:51:34,492
Speaker 14: Yeah?

2328
01:51:34,532 --> 01:51:39,412
Speaker 17: No he ended up okay, and thats I no, no,

2329
01:51:39,612 --> 01:51:46,333
Speaker 17: well no not really. We're still dating recent living together

2330
01:51:46,412 --> 01:51:49,372
Speaker 17: nearly two years now, so I did a whole lot

2331
01:51:49,372 --> 01:51:51,652
Speaker 17: of dates at the same time I met him and

2332
01:51:51,692 --> 01:51:54,852
Speaker 17: you know the other funny thing is trying to get

2333
01:51:54,933 --> 01:51:58,892
Speaker 17: him off the dating sites was incredibly hard because soon

2334
01:51:58,933 --> 01:52:01,293
Speaker 17: as soon as I meet her, and you know, we

2335
01:52:01,412 --> 01:52:03,732
Speaker 17: got things together and we were like, yeah, you were

2336
01:52:03,772 --> 01:52:07,412
Speaker 17: really into each other. And he and I say to him,

2337
01:52:07,692 --> 01:52:10,253
Speaker 17: I've gone off the dating side and that have you

2338
01:52:10,412 --> 01:52:13,213
Speaker 17: gone off yet? And he's like, oh, well, I'll think

2339
01:52:13,213 --> 01:52:17,492
Speaker 17: about it, you know wow, And I was like road.

2340
01:52:18,013 --> 01:52:20,093
Speaker 17: But anyway, we got there on the end, he went

2341
01:52:20,133 --> 01:52:23,692
Speaker 17: off on the end. I went off straight away, and

2342
01:52:23,732 --> 01:52:27,892
Speaker 17: it took him about two months before he went off.

2343
01:52:27,933 --> 01:52:28,133
Speaker 4: Here.

2344
01:52:28,213 --> 01:52:31,572
Speaker 2: That's no good. That's no good. Yeah, well, Maxine, you're

2345
01:52:31,572 --> 01:52:33,173
Speaker 2: not the only one to take the whole world on.

2346
01:52:33,853 --> 01:52:35,892
Speaker 2: Thank you for your call and best luck out there.

2347
01:52:36,013 --> 01:52:38,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is eight minutes to four back in a month.

2348
01:52:39,372 --> 01:52:42,892
Speaker 4: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2349
01:52:43,133 --> 01:52:47,133
Speaker 4: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tayler Adams afternoons used talk.

2350
01:52:47,213 --> 01:52:49,932
Speaker 3: Zi'd be it is four to four.

2351
01:52:50,133 --> 01:52:53,173
Speaker 2: Hey, Thanks so much for everyone for listening to the show.

2352
01:52:53,293 --> 01:52:55,612
Speaker 2: Loved the chats today of across three hours. Thank you

2353
01:52:55,652 --> 01:52:58,852
Speaker 2: for your kind messages about me punishing my way like

2354
01:52:58,933 --> 01:53:01,133
Speaker 2: a battler through my marathon and finishing that was very

2355
01:53:01,133 --> 01:53:04,133
Speaker 2: lovely of you. What a show. The podcast will be

2356
01:53:04,253 --> 01:53:07,412
Speaker 2: up soon. We've got super sub Ryan Bridge up next

2357
01:53:07,452 --> 01:53:10,452
Speaker 2: to and Drive Away Now Ryan Near there's someone that

2358
01:53:10,492 --> 01:53:11,652
Speaker 2: no one would swipe left on.

2359
01:53:11,812 --> 01:53:12,772
Speaker 3: No good looking man.

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Speaker 2: But right now Tyler, Oh my good buddy, tell me

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Speaker 2: why am I playing the song by the Buggles?

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Speaker 3: Oh great June video killed the radio star. It's because

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01:53:20,253 --> 01:53:23,173
Speaker 3: we had their great call from Stoop. We were talking

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Speaker 3: about screen time and when he was a kid. As

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Speaker 3: grandparents seed, you shouldn't listen to the radio too much

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Speaker 3: because that addles your brain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can you mention that?

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Speaker 3: Thank God, that's no longer the case because our jobs

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Speaker 3: rely on that.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, a nourishment for the brain that met

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Speaker 2: Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons, there's for sure. Anyway, you

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Speaker 2: guys seem busy, so we'll let you go until tomorrow afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Give them a taste of Kiwi from Tyler and.

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Speaker 4: I, Madam Tyler.

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Speaker 1: air or online and keep our shows with you wherever

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