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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, Unique Homes,

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Speaker 1: Uniquely for You.

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Speaker 2: Tris Jason Huson Willis pr with us tonight. Good evening, Trish,

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Speaker 2: Good evening. Ryan Josey BEGANI here too, see child fund.

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Speaker 2: Hey Josy, good to see it. Probably a long time

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Speaker 2: since you guys have had to apply for a job.

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Speaker 3: That was a big pause.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting to that middle aged stage of life where

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Speaker 3: if you do apply for a job you're immediately just

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Speaker 3: cast aside because you're too old.

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Speaker 2: You're not there.

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Speaker 3: No, I feel like I am.

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Speaker 2: But you know when you did get your go for

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Speaker 2: your first jobs, you know, when you were younger, how

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Speaker 2: did you do it? Josie hustled?

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Speaker 3: And I think if you look at kids today and

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Speaker 3: they are really struggling. I mean, my kids are all

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Speaker 3: going overseas, they're gone to Australia, get high wages, better jobs.

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Speaker 3: But I employ a lot of kids too, a lot

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Speaker 3: of young not kids, young adults in the early twenties.

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Speaker 3: And what I look for is is that is attitude, hustle,

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Speaker 3: you know, a real kind of drive, come in there

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Speaker 3: and go beyond your job description. Because all the other stuff,

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Speaker 3: you've got a twenty year old or twenty one year

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Speaker 3: old without experience. You can teach all of that, but

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Speaker 3: you can't teach that attitude and that kind of go

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Speaker 3: get hustle. And I've got one great young person at

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Speaker 3: the moment in my office, Louise. I'm thinking about you.

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Speaker 3: And it's great because she went to school with my son,

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Speaker 3: my youngest son, so I get to spy on his

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Speaker 3: Instagram every now and then the boss says, open my

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Speaker 3: son's Instagram. She's going to do it.

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Speaker 2: Trish. What about you? I mean, when you're hire, because

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Speaker 2: you've obviously got a business yourself. When you're hiring, what

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Speaker 2: is it that you're looking for? I mean, if young

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Speaker 2: people out there are serious about getting a job, and

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Speaker 2: it is a hard market, what puts you out ahead.

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Speaker 4: I have had two incredible young women come to see

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Speaker 4: me this year to talk about that finishing undergrad degrees

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Speaker 4: or one was finishing a master's. And that's one of

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Speaker 4: the lovely things about to this agent stage in your

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Speaker 4: career is often people want to come and chat about

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Speaker 4: what to do. And I have to say, those two

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Speaker 4: young women completely blew me away, And I think if

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Speaker 4: our universities are turning out talent like that, you know,

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Speaker 4: businesses will want to hire these young people because what

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Speaker 4: they reminded me about, you know that great saying, always

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Speaker 4: hire people smarter than yourself. Not only did these women

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Speaker 4: turn up, they were incredibly polished, they were very engaging.

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Speaker 4: They spoke to things like resilience, like wanting to be

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Speaker 4: in the office because that's how you learn things and

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Speaker 4: get ahead. But also they talked about their skills at

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Speaker 4: being digital natives. So in a business like ours, if

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Speaker 4: you can turn up and you are already incredibly AI literate,

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Speaker 4: you can work across a range of range of software,

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Speaker 4: you are going to be a great hire for us.

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Speaker 4: And if you've got that personality. So I actually thought

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Speaker 4: it's you know, I was really heartened and quite inspired

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Speaker 2: Maybe to my question to Mark was actually a bit

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Speaker 2: of a stupid one. You know, maybe using chat, GPT

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Speaker 2: showing you can do stuff like that, it would actually

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Speaker 4: Well, I actually think we're at a tipping point where actually,

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Speaker 4: if you are not using AI, you're behind, rather than

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Speaker 4: as we sort of still tend to do, we titter

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Speaker 4: at people who are using AI like it's cheating, like

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Speaker 4: it's cheating. It is absolutely incredible and if it can

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Speaker 4: you should be using it.

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Speaker 3: And also, you know, you want to give these young

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Speaker 3: people permission to fail, permission to try things, you know,

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Speaker 3: And that's what I say to all of them. And

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Speaker 3: then they just they're trying heaps of stuff, whether it's

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Speaker 3: press releases or something, and you just think that that's fantastic.

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Speaker 3: So you've also got to create an environment where you

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Speaker 2: Should we pull out of the un ray showing? And

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump all ahead on the panel with Josie began

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Speaker 2: to introdus him.

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Speaker 1: With New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the ones for Unmatched.

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Speaker 2: Results, Josie b BEGANI and tricious and on the huddle,

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Speaker 2: and it is called it to six. Let's talk Ray Chung,

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Speaker 2: that's true. Where do we start?

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Speaker 4: Well, let me just start by saying, and I'm certainly

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Speaker 4: not one to blow smoke up your backside, but if

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Speaker 3: Just say he just said the other a while ago.

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Speaker 3: He was annoyed. It's like ripping my ninety and now

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Speaker 3: you're saying, blow smoke up his bum. It's getting very risque.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't. I mean rip your nighty. That's common

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Speaker 4: parlance for anyone who's annoyed by something. But if you

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Speaker 4: haven't heard Ryan's interview with Ray Chung on Friday night,

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Speaker 4: go and have a listen to it, because it is

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Speaker 4: as as I found it, not only humorous but very astounding.

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Speaker 4: Number One, I was astounded Ray agreed to come on

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Speaker 4: and give an interview after what had happened. You cannot

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Speaker 4: not sure whether Ray realizes just how career limiting this

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Speaker 4: you know, I would say around zero right now. But

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Speaker 4: the third point is unfortunately for Wellington, which you know,

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Speaker 4: if I were a Wellingtonian, I think, for God's sake,

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Speaker 4: you can't even get water in my taps, and yet

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Speaker 4: this whole council just continually turns up as a clown show.

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Speaker 4: And you know, if my neighbor had told me some

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Speaker 4: I don't think I would go back to the office

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Speaker 4: and flick it around as an f YI, regardless of

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Speaker 4: who the person was involved. I mean, it just it's

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Speaker 3: But the thing about the Wellington City Council, who needs

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Speaker 3: Love Island when you've got Wellington City Council. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's not just that Ray Chung sent this email and

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Speaker 3: these accusations against Tory Farno. It's that somebody linked that email.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the whole thing is just they are just

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Speaker 3: playing games. I mean, I'm sure there's some good people there,

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Speaker 3: but it's the whole lot is just guys go away.

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Speaker 2: Do you know? The other thing here is like good

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Speaker 2: luck Andrew Little, you know, because he's I mean that's

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Speaker 2: going to be his job, right, it's trying and bring

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you think running the unions was hard, wait till

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Speaker 3: you get into this Love Island.

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Speaker 2: Well exactly. Donald Trump mulling increasing the baseline tariff so

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Speaker 2: we feel pretty good at the moment because we're on

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Speaker 2: well that's the minimum, and we feel pretty good about that.

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Speaker 2: He's now talking maybe I'll do fifteen, maybe I'll do

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Speaker 2: twenty trish, do we take it seriously? And if we do,

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Speaker 4: I would actually hark back to Winston Peter's early advice

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Speaker 4: earlier in the year around this is not to panic.

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Speaker 4: The one thing that we know about Trump and these tariffs,

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Speaker 4: there is literally no economic theory behind it. There is

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Speaker 4: you know, don't panic is really the order of the day,

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Speaker 4: the one useful piece of news. And I saw it

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Speaker 4: Catherine Beard of Business New Zealand saying, remember it's that

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Speaker 4: it's our it's our tariff relative to others. That's really

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Speaker 4: It's not just that we're at twenty five percent, if

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Speaker 4: that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: The thing is it's never been a negotiation. It's always

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Speaker 3: been a shakedown. And until we realize that, okay, now

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Speaker 3: when he was campaigning, he was threatening sixty percent, fifty

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Speaker 3: But the point is it's just going to get worse,

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Speaker 3: at making sure thank god we joined the TPP CPTPP,

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Speaker 3: looking at we are with India, but trade with Southeast Asia,

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Speaker 2: The interesting thing about it all is because you say,

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Speaker 2: you know, they've got this crazy idea that this will

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Speaker 2: get them out, but free trade hasn't treated everyone equally,

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Speaker 2: which is why we're in this position, right because NAFTA

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Speaker 3: And you do, you do, absolutely have to. That's the

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Speaker 3: I mean, no one in I don't know Northland is saying, well,

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Speaker 3: and they've relocated. Yeah, you're hurt. So the inability to

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Speaker 4: But that is also the trademark of the way Trump

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Speaker 4: makes these ridiculous announcements and policies. There's always a grain

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Speaker 4: of truth at the heart of it, right, and so

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Speaker 4: it's very easy for those who want to believe it

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Speaker 4: to go, yes, that's the right way to go. But

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Speaker 4: there is no doubt that these tariffs are absolutely a

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Speaker 4: shift away from the free trade world that we have

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Speaker 4: known and we've been building since the Second World War,

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Speaker 4: and we're going into a very worrying state of protection.

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Speaker 3: Is a great idea for a campaign. Let's start a

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Speaker 3: hashtags aluminium campaign. Start pronouncing aluminium our way, and anyone

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Speaker 3: who says aluminum, we're not going to trade with them,

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Speaker 3: they get an extra tax to take an aluminum text.

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