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Speaker 1: We've got a statement from the Otaga Regional councilor get

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Speaker 1: With me this even we've got Matt Heath of Radio

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Speaker 1: Hoarchy and Clear de Laud journalist. Hello, are you too

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Speaker 1: good afternoon? All right? What punishment do you want meeting

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Speaker 1: out to the Canadian football team.

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Speaker 3: Matt Wow, Well, collective punishment, so all the whole team

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Speaker 3: that have been training for four years, the reigning champions.

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Speaker 3: Punishment for them, I don't know, like I think morally

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Speaker 3: are probably no punishment but from a purely patriotic, biased

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Speaker 3: New Zealand side. Sure, we'll push for the two points

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Speaker 3: because we're not going to get them in a normal

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Speaker 3: play by play fashion.

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Speaker 1: Are We're not going to get them by winning?

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Speaker 3: No, we're not giving by the winning. What I think

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Speaker 3: strange about it is what were they looking to find

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Speaker 3: from our strategy?

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Speaker 2: You know what I say?

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Speaker 1: That's the football Ferns. What are you doing night at

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Speaker 1: the back?

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Speaker 3: Kicking as far away from the goal as you possibly can?

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Speaker 3: And I hopes it doesn't come back clear.

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Speaker 1: It says to me, Look, I mean it's the fact

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Speaker 1: that they're spying on us. Says to me that they

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Speaker 1: just spy as a matter of course, right, and for

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Speaker 1: that reason they to be punished quite severely to stop this.

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Speaker 4: Who did they think we were and what did they

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Speaker 4: think they stood to gain as champions? It's really pretty

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Speaker 4: weird chieving and sports seems to be and demic, and

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Speaker 4: maybe they just thought, oh well, maybe it's a turn

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Speaker 4: to have it go. But it defies our kind of

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Speaker 4: conceptions about Canadians. We think they're like us, yeah, warm friendly,

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Speaker 4: you know, we're all and Laura bading people compared to

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Speaker 4: the you know, moll stroppy Americans and Australians. But it

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Speaker 4: turns out they're not. I think take the points off them,

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Speaker 4: make them play the game, and make them and I

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Speaker 4: drink warm beer and have KFC afterwards.

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Speaker 1: They hate us to that too, write I think they

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Speaker 1: do need to be punished. Okay, listen, what are we

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Speaker 1: going to do here? We obviously met Obviously the compo

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Speaker 1: idea is flying right with the government because they're looking

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Speaker 1: at the redress. Do you think they will get away

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Speaker 1: paying redress to gang members.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an incredibly complex issue, isn't it, Because obviously

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Speaker 3: there's a cause for every crime. There's a cause for

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Speaker 3: everything and an effect. And if that's caused you to

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Speaker 3: be in a gang member, how do you evaluate that?

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Speaker 3: And I reckon some problems in our society don't have

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Speaker 3: are just gray. And while some people deserve compensation, I'm

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Speaker 3: sure if compensation is actually what's going to help you,

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Speaker 3: I don't think of money. If you've got those deep

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Speaker 3: set problems that have caused you to go into a

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Speaker 3: life of crime, that money is going to solve that problem.

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Speaker 3: So are there other things we can do? But sometimes

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Speaker 3: you've just.

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Speaker 1: Got to go.

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Speaker 3: This problem is so incredibly freaking complex. And if you

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Speaker 3: start not blaming people by virtue of what's happened to

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Speaker 3: them in the past, then the whole justice system completely collapses,

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Speaker 3: doesn't it, Because everything is based on something that's happened

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Speaker 3: in your past. Course, So I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But if someone's been abused in state care, then I

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Speaker 3: don't know whoever they are. Are we going to nickel and

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Speaker 3: dime them and getting some money? Look, I tell you what,

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Speaker 3: I've been thinking about this all day, and I've been

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Speaker 3: listening to it, and I can honestly say I don't

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Speaker 3: know if there's a correct answer for it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've wandered about this as well. Clear because it

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Speaker 1: is a little complicated to be paying compensation to pick

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Speaker 1: to some of these people, right, some of them, like

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Speaker 1: as we know, have got alcohol and drug issues. If

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Speaker 1: you give direct money to them, they're just going to

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Speaker 4: You do politically? There's also not a good thing to

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Speaker 4: be picking between survivors of youth right to decide who

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Speaker 4: That happens, now, that's quite right. You know, money can't

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Speaker 4: make up what's happened to them, But how do you

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Speaker 4: I think it's two hundred thousand dollars per person, and

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Speaker 4: there's no limit on the number of their survivors who

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Speaker 1: You don't have to pay the money. That's the other

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Speaker 1: thing as well. Right, what they're talking about is potentially

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Speaker 1: just redressing other forms like paying for new teeth, paying

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that that's going to be quite difficult

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Speaker 4: choosing between them is going to be extremely difficult. You know,

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Speaker 4: yesterday Parliament was in great agreement that a terrible wrong

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Speaker 4: not sure about your lifestyle. I mean I would have

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Speaker 4: the same misgivings you have. But I don't think that

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to fly.

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Speaker 3: So we want the best outcome for the people, don't we.

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Speaker 3: So we need to find that out. Are we handing

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Speaker 3: and to make ourselves feel better? I think probably you

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Speaker 3: need to do all the work you can around it

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Speaker 3: to say what's going to be the best thing for

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Speaker 3: the people that have faced this terrible, terrible thing. And

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Speaker 3: if the money's not going to help them, then what

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Speaker 3: else will? But something needs to be done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, something does need to be done. I would

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Speaker 1: agree with that. All right, we'll take a break.

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Speaker 1: Right back to the huddle, clear to law Matt Heath. Now, Claire,

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Speaker 1: Apparently the Republicans have been told to stop calling Karmela

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Speaker 1: a diversity higher. Do you think that's a good idea?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, who would have thought you'd have to

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Speaker 4: really changed the game. And now they're saying, for example,

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Speaker 4: But I don't think that I'm having changed the game.

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Speaker 4: The Republicans are now scrambling to have a streak of

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Speaker 4: the women who spoke made It was surprising to me

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Speaker 4: And so this time around, I think she has changed

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Speaker 1: I think the reason, Matt, why they've been told to

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Speaker 1: that she is a black lady and a lady is

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Speaker 1: actually some of her best attributes. Yeah, what's exciting her voters?

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Speaker 3: I know, But it's a classic playbook, isn't it from

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Speaker 3: the Washington Post, who's deeply biased, And it's a classic

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Speaker 3: You find the worst people from one side and blame

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Speaker 3: because all those people that you're saying, oh you Republicans,

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Speaker 3: Republicans are like that. That's half the country, and most

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Speaker 3: of them know they aren't what they're being told they are.

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Speaker 1: A deplorable argument.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So if you know, until the Democratic Party

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Speaker 3: And that goes for the other side as well. Just

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Speaker 3: picking the worst examples doesn't work because the people that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair point. Now clear Listen. Do you use headphones?

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Speaker 4: Not very much. I've lose them a lot, but I

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Speaker 4: don't use them as much of those.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you've got perfect hearing, then you won't have

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Speaker 4: Well, I've got pretty good hearing. My husband used to

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Speaker 4: my mumbling was good.

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Speaker 1: What a surprise you, though, Matt. This is your industry, right,

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Speaker 1: you have to every day for hours on and then

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Speaker 3: It's terrifying how much of abuse my hearing over the years.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe I can hear it at all. I

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Speaker 3: day for ten years now, I've had it on ridiculously loud.

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Speaker 1: You have it on loud, I stop it.

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Speaker 3: I know. And my dad's got terrible hearing and he's

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Speaker 3: in a new vehicle. So there's downsides of that as well.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm going to pay. I'm going to pay

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Speaker 3: the piper for it. And I think if anyone has

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Speaker 3: the discipline to look after their hearing, do it, and

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Speaker 3: do it, do it while you're young. But how do

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Speaker 3: you tell kids to turn their How do you tell

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Speaker 3: you can go into their phone and put the limitter on,

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Speaker 3: but they're going to turn it off, that's right, and it's.

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Speaker 1: Just another thing to nag them about, which is irritating.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to both of you, appreciate it. Matt Heath

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