1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Driver training trouble. There Over three hundred and twenty two 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: of us have to reset the license after officers allegedly 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: accepted cash bribes to pass practical tears. Five instructors as 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: from Highbrook. Highbrook's in Auckland. They've been sacked. The police 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: are on with Mark Rebel. Johnson's the president of the 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: New Zealand Institute of Driver Educators and as with us, 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: Mark morning, Oh yeah, what's happened to here? Do you reckon? 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 2: Difficult to say, my just the one important distinction to 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: draw here. You're talking about instructors. The people involved are 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: actually testing officers, so not not necessarily driving instructors, but 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: people who conduct driving tests. 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: Right, what's the difference, what's the mat differences? Who take money? 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: The differences the instructor instructs the test of tests, and 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: it's people doing driving tests to get a license that 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: were involved with it. 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: Okay, is this do you think of one off? Is 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: this just you know, Mike going hey, listen, I've did 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: this and then Bob does it as well, and suddenly 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: you got five people in the same office doing it 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: or is this thistentially endemic? 21 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: It's difficult to say, of course, but we don't know 22 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: an awful lot about it. However, when you consider the 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: number of driving tests that happened and the well into 24 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: the thousands weekly, three hundred and twenty two over a 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: couple of year period is actually quite a small number. 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: And it doesn't make it right. 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: Mark No, no, absolutely not no, I quite agree. And 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: you know, we need to have faith in the system 29 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: and it needs to be consistent and above board. 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: Reminds me of the time I went to Rara, Tonga 31 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: and you slipped the policeman the money you ever done 32 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:44,279 Speaker 1: that and got your bike license to ride around the island? 33 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: About the bike license when I went there? 34 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: So it's so who who's on top of us, Who's 35 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: in charge of this and stamps this out? This all 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: strikes me as being unbelievably third world. 37 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: It certainly it certainly has that depression, doesn't it. Let's 38 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: look at what who does what? The Transport Agency are 39 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: the regulator VTNS have the contract to deliver practical driving tests, 40 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: so they're a contractor to the Transport Agency VTNS. In 41 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: this case, I've responded to complaints, They've done an internal investigation, 42 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: I believe, and they have passed their concerns onto the 43 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: Transport Agency. They've taken enforcement action, btns, have taken employment 44 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: action and now they're not has been referred to the police. 45 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: So in that respect, I think the system seems to 46 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: be working. 47 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: In other words, they got caught, so that's the encouraging part. 48 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: I suppose. It's also interesting of the three hundred and 49 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: twenty two, if I was one of the three hundred 50 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: and twenty two, can you make me do it? Because 51 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 1: I mean, just because I paid the blakes and money 52 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it wasn't any good and it didn't pass well. 53 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 2: I was correct, But we can't have any faith in 54 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: the result, can we. So we don't know if that 55 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: was a properly conducted test according to the conditions and 56 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: the rules, yeah, or if it was even if the 57 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: drive happened properly at all. So the only way to 58 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: be sure of that is to revoke the license and 59 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: read it. 60 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: Do it again, all right, make appreciate the inside. Mac 61 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: Rebel Johnson does yevvinda Raratona. I mean, I don't know 62 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: if it's the same now. But you get a scoot 63 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: around the island and you've got to pass a test 64 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: and you go to the officer and a couple of bucks, 65 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: and we're all good to go, apparently. For more from 66 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks it'd 67 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.