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Speaker 1: In New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, The

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Speaker 1: mic Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover, the la designed

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Speaker 1: to intrigue and use togs Head, be.

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Speaker 2: Billing and welcome Today government wents on the crime front

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Speaker 2: as another target has ticked off. Russia wants to park

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Speaker 2: some mere power in Indonesia. Apparently, are we back fighting

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Speaker 2: inflation at the supermarket? At politics Wednesday? Ginian Mark after right,

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold and America's steep price on the Australian campaign trail,

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Speaker 2: Pascal Right, Let's rip into it seven past six. So

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Speaker 2: tell you what I wonder if we aren't doing ourselves

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Speaker 2: some harm, more harm than good when it comes to

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Speaker 2: our finances, if not general mental health at the moment

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Speaker 2: with what seems have you noticed this an industry in

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Speaker 2: polling and surveys. The latest IPSOS work this week has

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Speaker 2: over forty percent of us not happy about money and

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Speaker 2: a decent chunk of us struggling. What is struggling? It's

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Speaker 2: open to a lot of interpretation, isn't it struggling? The

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Speaker 2: facts are here are the facts. This is part of

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Speaker 2: the issue. Mood doesn't necessarily deal in fact. Now the

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Speaker 2: facts are on average, our wages are outpacing inflation. Now

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Speaker 2: what that means is we are on average better off,

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Speaker 2: but the surveys don't show this. We're in a funk.

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Speaker 2: We've been in a funk since COVID. The other part

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Speaker 2: of the problem is the average.

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Speaker 3: Beit.

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Speaker 2: None of us are average, either in our expenditure or

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Speaker 2: our income. So unless you see it, feel it, livet

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Speaker 2: average means nothing to you. The age old question as

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Speaker 2: to whether the price of a basket of groceries is

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Speaker 2: too expensive has been and forever will be answered the same,

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Speaker 2: Yes it is. Now. That's not about maths or income

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Speaker 2: or affordability. That's about mindset. If you've made up your

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Speaker 2: mind food is too expensive, or you don't trust the

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Speaker 2: media or lux and doesn't connect with regular people, then

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Speaker 2: evidence comes secondary to your mood, your vibe, your feels.

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Speaker 2: Is traffic too bad? Is the country on the right track?

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Speaker 2: Do you deserve more income? Does the council waste your

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Speaker 2: rates money? I can line up any number of questions

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Speaker 2: and if I word them right, I conversally guarantee you

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Speaker 2: an outcome, and then, having produced the results, I need

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Speaker 2: a compliant media to regurg to take them for an

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Speaker 2: easy headline. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. You feel life

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Speaker 2: is too expensive, you feel you are struggling. You read

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Speaker 2: that other people feel like you. You go to yourself.

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Speaker 2: Oh see, I told you it's true. It's news. It

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Speaker 2: must be true. Run around we go. Which is not

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Speaker 2: to say these things don't have an element of truth

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Speaker 2: about them, but it's like punching yourself on the head

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Speaker 2: if you keep doing it, what are the chances you'll

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Speaker 2: have a headache at the individual.

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Speaker 4: News of the world.

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Speaker 1: In ninety seconds, let.

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Speaker 2: Us wander through the wonder door into Trump World and

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Speaker 2: see what we find today. Will first up, Trumpe's base

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Speaker 2: mate Stevie Whitcoff, has been talking some more with the Russians.

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Speaker 2: Guess what wall's over.

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Speaker 5: It took a while for us to get to this place.

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Speaker 2: What Putin's request is to get to have a permanent

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Speaker 2: piece here so beyond the cease fire.

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Speaker 5: We got an answer to that.

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Speaker 2: Uhh. But not happy is the president's frisen billions in

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Speaker 2: funding because they won't being.

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Speaker 6: Diver unquestionable violation of First Amendment rights. This is a

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Speaker 6: move that happens in countries across the world when there

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Speaker 6: are efforts to try to make an authoritarian play in government.

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Speaker 6: And this is the moment when it's so essential for

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Speaker 6: those universities to take a stand. And if there's any

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Speaker 6: university in the world that has the resources to do

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Speaker 6: that and the moral leadership to do that, it's Harvard.

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Speaker 2: They branded up another Wed who's been wondering around torching Tisla's.

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Speaker 7: And they found the cardboard stencil used to paint the

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Speaker 7: letters kkk Ice Wagner. According to the Albuquerque Journal, as

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Speaker 7: a registered Democrat, he has charged with multiple counts of

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Speaker 7: destruction of property by arson, could land him in prison

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Speaker 7: for forty years.

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Speaker 2: I won't even explain this, but you've got a senator

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Speaker 2: called Jim He's in an Energy committee hearing. He's brought

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Speaker 2: as dog. It's a fat bulldog. It's called baby Dog.

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Speaker 2: It gave testimony, and that testimony will be entered into

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Speaker 2: the congressional record.

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Speaker 8: She loves everybody. I found this in COVID. I didn't

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Speaker 8: intend in any way to be hauling a bulldog around.

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Speaker 3: No way on her.

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Speaker 8: We've never owned a bulldog before. She's not supposed to

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Speaker 8: like everybody, but she does.

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Speaker 2: Seeing you thought the president was mental, uh in Court

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Speaker 2: in New York having another crack at Weinstein.

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Speaker 9: Jerry action is the key.

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Speaker 10: If you don't get jurors who are willing to base

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Speaker 10: their evidence on what they see on the witness stand,

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Speaker 10: what they hear on the witness stand, but they're going

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Speaker 10: to let all the other bad stuff they've heard about

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Speaker 10: Army for the last six years. It's been flood into

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Speaker 10: their brain. Then you know where it's like climbing Everest.

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Speaker 2: Then in britainle's Chinese steel stuff. That's a misses. The

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Speaker 2: government tries to say the business while not looking anti Chinese.

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Speaker 11: I think we've got to recognize that steel is a

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Speaker 11: sensitive sector. It's a sensitive sector around the world, and

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Speaker 11: a lot of the issues in the global economy of

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Speaker 11: steel come from over production and dumping of steel products,

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Speaker 11: and that does come from China. So I think you

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Speaker 11: would look at a Chinese firm in a different way.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's news of a wacky world in ninety got

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Speaker 2: on inflation read in India. It's bitter than they thought

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Speaker 2: they thought it would be three point six one. It

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Speaker 2: came in at three point three four. So that they'll

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Speaker 2: be happy and stand by. I'm assuming I haven't talked

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Speaker 2: to him yet, but I'm assuming Andrew is fizzing at

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Speaker 2: the Deary News This morning, twelve past six.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio how

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Speaker 1: it By News TALKSIBY.

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Speaker 2: Singapore's called an election over night, fourteenth general election since independence.

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Speaker 2: Lawrence Wong's first May Three's your Day. Nominations day is

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Speaker 2: April twenty three, last time they had a vote. It's

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Speaker 2: a fairly subdued, a fair like most things in Singapore.

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Speaker 2: The People's Action Party, which run the place, got sixty

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Speaker 2: one point two four percent. They won eighty three of

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Speaker 2: ninety three parliamentary seats, and I don't think there's any

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Speaker 2: indication that it's going to change. Fifteen past six from

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Speaker 2: JMI Wealth Andrew Keller have very good morning, Yeah, very

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Speaker 2: good morning mate. I'm liking the look of these numbers.

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Speaker 2: I'm liking the look of mozzarella and butter and whole

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Speaker 2: milk powder. It's all on.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: The Global Dairy Trade Auction was run overnight. A bit

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Speaker 12: more focus on this one might because then would normally

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Speaker 12: have been the case. Because I believe it or not,

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Speaker 12: the financial world has been a bit of an interesting

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Speaker 12: place in the last couple of weeks, lots of movement

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Speaker 12: in financial markets, and the point of interest was what impact,

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Speaker 12: if any, this may have in demand for dairy products

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Speaker 12: expressed through the Global Dairy Trade Auction. And you know,

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Speaker 12: last auction we had quite a benign one point one

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Speaker 12: percent lift, and that was back on the first of April,

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Speaker 12: which doesn't seem that long ago, but that was preceding

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Speaker 12: the White House Rose Garden announcements on those initial US

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Speaker 12: trade tariffs, so it was and we've certainly seen something

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Speaker 12: of sort of a risk off attitude since then.

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Speaker 9: And China is an important part of the.

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Speaker 12: Global dairy trade ecosystem, it's an important.

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Speaker 9: Source of demand.

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Speaker 12: And the auction result overnight Mike for the moment, will

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Speaker 12: have allaid I think some of those concerns. Global dairy

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Speaker 12: trade indexes lifted one point six percent, which I think

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Speaker 9: Is a pretty damn good result.

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Speaker 12: And that's also sort of consistent with the stable trend

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Speaker 9: Since the February rally.

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Speaker 12: So you butter up one and a half percent, skill

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Speaker 12: milk powder was down, but the important whole milk powder

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Speaker 12: up two point eight percent. Now, the thing is, might

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Speaker 12: we don't know whether over time the sort of impact

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Speaker 12: of the tariffs and slowing the Chinese economy will have

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Speaker 12: an impact on the demand for sort of the premium

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Speaker 9: But for the moment, Mike, it's bluing. Okay, I'm pretty

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Speaker 9: happy about it.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. What about housing? I see what can I

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Speaker 2: sell you? Sales are up, listings are up. Is this

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Speaker 2: good or not?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Look, well it's just we have a little wager on this,

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Speaker 12: don't we make we do? We do have a little

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Speaker 12: wagrounding You're probably more right than I am.

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Speaker 9: Over the course over the course of this year.

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Speaker 12: Well, yes, they Real Estate and Institude of New Zealand released

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Speaker 12: the latest dat So I look at the annual move

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Speaker 12: and the house price index because I prefer that metric

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Speaker 12: to the medium price just because of the whole compositional issues.

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Speaker 12: Annual move Look, it's zero point seven percent lower in

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Speaker 12: the last twelve month months and it's sort of quite

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Speaker 12: similar across the country.

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Speaker 9: There's still a bit of a north south divide.

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Speaker 12: If you look at the rankings Southland canterury Otago, they

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Speaker 12: occupy the top three spots in terms of annual percentage movements.

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Speaker 12: And so you know, we've always said if you want

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Speaker 12: Look at the monthly numbers. Look, there is a modest

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Speaker 12: gain from February to March. And it's actually this see

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Speaker 12: So if you sort of come away from the annual

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Speaker 12: yet to lift the annual price moving into positive territory.

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Speaker 9: And the news from the north is also better.

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Speaker 12: When you look at the monthly data or from house prices,

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Speaker 12: they've been quietly creeping.

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Speaker 9: Up as well.

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Speaker 12: That house price in except zero point six percent over

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Speaker 12: the last six months.

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Speaker 9: Yet sales look sales are creeping up.

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Speaker 12: The problem you've got here is inventory and new listings

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Speaker 12: are also keeping sort of pace with that. You coming

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Speaker 12: to the end of summer, that's normally the busy time

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Speaker 12: in real estate. So sales are at one point five

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Speaker 12: percent month or month. You remember a lot of these

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Speaker 12: numbers have to be seasonally adjusted. Mike, I actually think

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Speaker 12: these numbers are moving in a positive direction. And I

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Speaker 12: actually think because we will see interest rate further interest

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Speaker 12: rate relief over the second half of this year. I

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Speaker 12: think you're going to see a slightly more buoyant market

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Speaker 12: in the second half of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I believe you to be correct. Now, CPI tomorrow, what

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Speaker 2: are we thinking.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, look, so we had the we had the what

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Speaker 12: are called the selective Price index is out yesday. So

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Speaker 12: that's forty five percent of the CPI basket, mostly tradeable inflation.

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Speaker 9: And there's a little bit.

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Speaker 12: Of a bug bear in there, and that food prices

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Speaker 12: are up three and a half percent, So that's a

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Speaker 12: fourteen month I fourteen month high and we're seeing it.

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Speaker 12: You know, there's lots of talk about the dairies are

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Speaker 12: butters up, chocolates up.

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Speaker 9: And Easter and all of that.

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Speaker 12: Look, the general tone of those selective price indexes, we're

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Speaker 12: a little bit stronger than expectors. And what we've seen

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Speaker 12: is most economists have sort of just nudged up their

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Speaker 12: first quarter CPI estimates.

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Speaker 9: So you're looking now.

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Speaker 12: At annual inflation in a range of sort of two

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Speaker 2: It'd be well well Well press release from Andrew Little

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Speaker 2: Can't argue with that. China, by the way, you want

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Speaker 3: Wrong.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't. It has not delegated any such power. The

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Speaker 2: worldwide tariffs. On that, I think they have a reasonable point.

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Speaker 2: Fragrances Richard on that. Shortly another Stephen King novel we're

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Speaker 14: When you look up at the night sky, it can

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Speaker 14: tell your stuff about your future. It won't lie to

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Speaker 2: That's nice. Tom Hiddleston stars, Tom Hiddleson, Karen Gillen, Andrew

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Speaker 1: Setting the agenda and talking the big issues. The Mic

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Speaker 2: Bloke Naboa who runs this is South America, who runs Ecuador.

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Speaker 2: you can't go round being anti Semitic the way you are.

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Speaker 2: So there's a funding routs of Richard Arnold on that

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Speaker 2: morning to you, morning Mike, how are you very well?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? When we say customs and Defense, do you

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Speaker 15: Yeah, we've invested alongside Defense in buying those two Concreerede

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Speaker 2: What do you pay for them? What are they worth?

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Speaker 15: You're about a million and a half dollars for each one,

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Speaker 2: And will they do the same sort of job as a.

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Speaker 15: Frigate, Yes they will. I mean the Pacific Ocean has

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Speaker 2: What do you do about it? Because if I was

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Speaker 15: Yes, we do. We work closely with defense and police

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Speaker 15: I think you'd have seen we've been into the Sea

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Speaker 2: Talks b I alluded to it yesterday. Seems we've got

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Speaker 2: it's going to land eventually. So one year fixed at

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Speaker 2: the moment at four nine nine. Turn deposits of course

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Speaker 2: have been crunched as well, So that's the other side

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Speaker 2: of the equation we don't talk enough about. Meantime, the

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Speaker 2: aen ZID six month five four nine, one year fixed

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Speaker 2: at four nine nine, eighteen month fixed special at four

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Speaker 2: nine to nine. So if they come to the party

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Speaker 2: one more time, the Reserve Bank, that is, I reckon,

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Speaker 2: we're probably going to look to be at about four

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Speaker 2: point five, which historically speaking is a pretty solid number

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Speaker 2: six forty five.

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Speaker 16: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 16: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: To go to the take which today are very good

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Speaker 2: morning to you, Good morning mate. So Harvard not happy

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Speaker 2: and not surprisingly.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, President Trump is cleared yet another battle, not only

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Speaker 17: on tariff and immigration, but this time it is a

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Speaker 17: showdown with this country's oldest and most successful university, that

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Speaker 17: being Harvard near Boston. I mean, who cares about university

456
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Speaker 17: gigs and trigs right? Well, you might look at Harvard's

457
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Speaker 17: record on things like medicine, for instance, and a theater

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Speaker 17: first used at Harvard. That was a good development. The

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Speaker 17: small pox vaccine was created at Harvard. The EKG for

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Speaker 17: hard health was first used at Harvard's Teaching hospital. First

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Speaker 17: kidney transplant nineteen fifty two Harvard. First person to survive

462
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Speaker 17: polio had their life saved at Harvard. The first MRI

463
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Speaker 17: was used at Mass General the Harvard Hospital nineteen seventy nine.

464
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Speaker 17: The pill, the oral contraceptive, was invented at Harvard, and

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Speaker 17: on and on and on. The university was started in

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Speaker 17: sixteen thirty six, which was one hundred and fifty plus

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Speaker 17: years before the creation of the US government. Now Donald

468
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Speaker 17: Trump wants to run it. He's demanding control over hiring

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Speaker 17: and admissions policies. The university says no way. In a statement,

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Speaker 17: they say no government should dictate to a private university

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Speaker 17: what it can teach, who it can hire or admit.

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Speaker 17: So Trump is reacting by freezing more than two billion

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Speaker 17: US dollars right now in federal grant money. Harvard is

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Speaker 17: wealthy because but the White House now is calling for

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Speaker 17: an end to the tax exempt status for operations and

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Speaker 17: research unless Trump gets to run just about everything.

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Speaker 2: Now El Salvador. That's back today, Wizl's head.

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Speaker 17: It is the Trump team is battling over the fate

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Speaker 17: of this Maryland father of three who is deported to

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Speaker 17: the supermax prison in El Salvador because of what the

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Speaker 17: White House admits was an administrative error, mistake or no.

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Speaker 17: They're now saying this man Abrego Garcia cannot be returned

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Speaker 17: to this country, even though the US Supreme Court says

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Speaker 17: the government here should facilitate his return. Trump's team says, well,

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Speaker 17: it's not on American soil anymore. So they washing the

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Speaker 17: hands of the whole thing. A federal court very soon

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Speaker 17: today will consider that White House response. Christy Nome, the

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Speaker 17: Homeland Security Advisers, saying the people that Trump sends to

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Speaker 17: El Southvador should stay in prison there for quote the

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Speaker 17: rest of their lives. Democratic leader in the House that

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Speaker 17: Kim Jeffrey says.

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Speaker 14: The Supreme Court and or the federal District Court actually

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Speaker 14: needs to enforce its order.

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Speaker 16: Well.

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Speaker 17: The White House claims that Garcia as a member of

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Speaker 17: the MS thirteen gang. Garcia denies it. Another court said

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Speaker 17: there is no evidence of that. Two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 17: eight people have been deported to the Supermacs prison in

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Speaker 17: El Salvador from this country. The place is perhaps the

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Speaker 17: most notorious prison on the planet. New York Times Today

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Speaker 17: saying the majority of these people have no criminal backgrounds

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Speaker 17: at all, according to the research they've been doing. As

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Speaker 17: you know, the White House, Salvador's president, who calls himself

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Speaker 17: the world's coolest dictator, Naib Bukeli, says it is preposterous

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Speaker 17: quote unquote to ask him to send this man back

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Speaker 17: to the United States. And Trump stirred things even further

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Speaker 17: when he jokes with Bikelly about wanting five more of

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Speaker 17: these Supermacs prisons built in El Salvador in order to

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Speaker 17: send there. Not only would be immigrants, said Trump, but

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Speaker 17: some quote unquote bad americansiders as well, So exporting supposed convicts.

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Speaker 18: Where have we heard that before?

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Speaker 2: Exactly, you have a good long weekend. We'll catch up

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Speaker 2: next week. Richard Arnold state, So, by the way, a

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Speaker 2: comprehensive survey out of CNBC, the Supply Chain Survey. This

515
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Speaker 2: is the tariffs. Most companies say high costs will keep

516
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Speaker 2: them from moving manufacturing back to the state. So all

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Speaker 2: this is doing is confirming what everybody already knows. And

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Speaker 2: we talked to the Zuru people yesterday on the program.

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Speaker 2: Eighty one percent expect automation to be favored over workers.

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Speaker 2: Reassuring would double costs, the trade wars more likely to

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Speaker 2: kick off a new global search for low tariff regimes.

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Speaker 2: Seventy four percent in the survey said cost was the

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Speaker 2: top reason for saying they would not be reassuring production.

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Speaker 2: You can't go back to America and pay American wages

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Speaker 2: to make half the stuff they make in China or Vietnam.

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Speaker 2: Finding skilled labor was an major problem for twenty one

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Speaker 2: percent of them. The price tag of building a new

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Speaker 2: domestic supply chain would at least be double current costs.

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Speaker 2: That's what eighteen percent of people said would likely to

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Speaker 2: be more than twice as expensive. That's forty seven percent

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Speaker 2: of people. Sixty one percent it would be more cost

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Speaker 2: effective to relocate to a lower tarer of country, and

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Speaker 2: as well as the current administration's inability to provide a

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Speaker 2: consistent strategy. In other words, everything this age they makes

535
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Speaker 2: absolutely no sense whatsoever. They also have supply chain concerned

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Speaker 2: sixty one percent. They feel like the Trump administration is

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Speaker 2: bullying corporate America. So that's corporate America telling Trump that

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Speaker 2: what he's doing is insane.

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Speaker 1: Ten to seven the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Range,

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Speaker 1: Rover Villa News Togs Dad Ben.

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting one. At Harvard, the administration, as in Trump,

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Speaker 2: also demanded the university stop recognizing or funding any student

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Speaker 2: group or club that endorses or promotes criminal activity, illegal violence,

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Speaker 2: or illegal harassment, and to overhaul the admissions process to

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Speaker 2: bar any international students hostile to the American values or

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Speaker 2: who are supportive of terrorism or anti Semitism. That, as

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Speaker 2: I said earlier on the program, on the surface, doesn't

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Speaker 2: seem like a particularly bad request because that Khalil guy,

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Speaker 2: of course there wasn't hard but it was another one.

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Speaker 2: But you know, they were defending him as well as

551
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Speaker 2: the guy wanted all the Jews shot poll time in Australia.

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Speaker 2: So competing policies Sydney Morning Herald have done the pole

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Speaker 2: this morning. Labor policies, personal tax cuts, all that sort

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Speaker 2: of stuff. Anyway, fifty six percent support the coalition's tax package,

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Speaker 2: so they went on that fifty six because only fifty

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Speaker 2: four percent support the labor tax package, so the Coalition

557
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Speaker 2: are after the reduced fuel tax so you get cheaper petrol.

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Speaker 2: But when head to hit, when they said, well pick

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Speaker 2: one forty percent favor labor, thirty four percent favor of

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Speaker 2: the Coalition. What's really important this morning is the other

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Speaker 2: polet's out, which is IPSOS. Dutton's personal approval rating has

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Speaker 2: literally collapsed. Twenty seven percent approve of his performance, forty

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Speaker 2: seven disapproved, so he's underwater to the tune of minus

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Speaker 2: twenty It's the lowest pole performance rating and the lowest

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Speaker 2: figure as of preferred prime minister any candidate this century.

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Speaker 2: Thirty five percent like Elbow, thirty nine percent don't, so

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Speaker 2: he's hardly popular either. But when Dutton's as unpopular as that,

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Speaker 2: majority of Australians believe the country's heading in the wrong direction,

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Speaker 2: which is the interesting part about the whole campaign debate,

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Speaker 2: and what I was saying before, is Elbow winning or

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Speaker 2: is Dutton losing? Because generally that question, if you don't

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Speaker 2: believe the country's going in the right direction. Whoever's running

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Speaker 2: the country loses, so they don't think the country's going

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Speaker 2: in the right direction. But then they look at the alternative,

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Speaker 2: I e. Dutton and he's a walking disaster. His kids

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Speaker 2: become a fascination to the media because for a day

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Speaker 2: he refused to tell the media whether they would help.

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Speaker 2: He was helping his kid by a first home and

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Speaker 2: then that became a problem. He is as it turns out.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, it looks like it's done and dusted. But

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Speaker 2: we'll talk to Steve about that later in the program

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Speaker 2: five to seven.

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Speaker 1: The in and the Outs. It's the fizz with business

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Speaker 1: fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Now do you study speaking of Australia investigating workplaces as

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Speaker 2: to whether they plann to my great to Australia for

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Speaker 2: higher salaries or wages. They're looking at culture. This is

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Speaker 2: the great Place to Work study which spoke to one

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty six thousand kiwis in Australian so that's

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Speaker 2: a lot of us. It found that New Zealand organizations

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Speaker 2: rate higher than Australia when it comes to things like

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Speaker 2: work culture, fairness and inclusive se does that surprise you,

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Speaker 2: surprise me. Seventy three percent of Australian firms believe their

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Speaker 2: workplace is fair. The idea of fair takes into account

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of stuff, equal opportunities, remuneration seventy six

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Speaker 2: for New Zealand, So I mean seventy six pe to

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Speaker 2: seventy three. There'll be a margin of erra of three there,

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Speaker 2: So where even stevens I reckon. Sixty seven percent of

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Speaker 2: Australians say their employer treats people fairly regardless of age.

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Speaker 2: Only fifty five percent of Australians say they paid fairly

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Speaker 2: for what they do. Forty two percent say they believe

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Speaker 2: redundancies on the table at any time, such should we

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Speaker 2: get rid of the useless people? Seventy eight percent say

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Speaker 2: their office is a safe place to work. For us,

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Speaker 2: it's eighty one. Eighty one percent of us think it's

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Speaker 2: a safe place to work. When it comes to actual performance,

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Speaker 2: the study says they have found that if a workplace

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Speaker 2: makes a conscious effort to improve their culture and fairness standards,

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Speaker 2: they perform on average thirty five percent higher than firms

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Speaker 2: who don't. See that's crap, that's literally invented Bollocks fairness

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Speaker 2: thirty five percent higher. Whatever. In New Zealand, firms who

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Speaker 2: worked towards it performed twenty one percent better. Believe it

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Speaker 2: or not. I was watching the Prime Minister yesterday. Such

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Speaker 2: is my life. So I'm watching the Prime Minister. I'm

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Speaker 2: watching the Goldsmith and Marx there as well, and they're

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Speaker 2: spreaking these numbers the Victims of Crime survey, which isn't

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Speaker 2: actually out yet, but they've had a look at it

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Speaker 2: and they're seeing it. It's a recess week in Parliament

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Speaker 2: and they're seeing they're traveling reasonably well. Things are going

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Speaker 2: well for the government at the moment, so they thought,

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Speaker 2: let's get in front of this, let's spread some good news.

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Speaker 2: Eric has been out there handing out money for classrooms,

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Speaker 2: will hand out some numbers around crime. So things are

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Speaker 2: going So it's a vibe thing because the interesting thing

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Speaker 2: about the victims of crime, a lot of the stuff

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Speaker 2: they're wanting to do in justice and this is why

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Speaker 2: Goldsmith's with us in a moment hasn't even become law yet.

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Speaker 2: So if they're doing well at this level, things could

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Speaker 2: get really good anyway. Paul Goldsmith after the News which.

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Speaker 19: Is next Azarni, the Breakfast show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay

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Speaker 19: in the Know the mic hosting breakfast with al Vida,

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Speaker 19: Retirement Can Unities, Life Your Way News Togs.

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Speaker 2: He had been only seven past seven. So it looks

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Speaker 2: like the government's winning on the crime front. These new

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Speaker 2: stats from the Victims of Crime Survey show the goal

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Speaker 2: of reducing victims by twenty thousand has been beaten. They

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Speaker 2: look to be twenty eight thousand fewer victims, although I'm

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Speaker 2: reading something else it gives me another number. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: that's why we've got Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith who's with us.

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Speaker 2: Very good morning to you.

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Speaker 4: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: So we're quoting twenty eight thousand fewer victims, which is

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Speaker 2: a win. But I've got the paperwork in front of

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Speaker 2: me that says thirty four thousand fewer victims. Do we

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Speaker 2: know what the number is or doesn't matter. We're just winning.

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Speaker 2: So therefore that's the main point.

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Speaker 20: Well, it's twenty eight thousand since October twenty three when

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Speaker 20: the government came in, and that's when it was the

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Speaker 20: baseline for the figure. So we wanted to reduce the

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Speaker 20: overall number of victims of crime by twenty thousand from

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Speaker 20: that figure that it was, which was one hundred and

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Speaker 20: eighty five thousand New Zealanders a year of being victims

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Speaker 20: of violent crime. So rather than twenty we've gone down

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Speaker 20: twenty eight. You know, this is which is very encouraging,

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Speaker 20: and it's good news that we promise to restore law

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Speaker 20: and order and we're making good progress on that, recognizing

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Speaker 20: you know, this is a whole community wide thing that's

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Speaker 20: going on.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was going to say in Canterbury there's a

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Speaker 2: forty three percent decrease fifteen thousand fewer victims in Canterbury alone.

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Speaker 2: Can we explain any of this?

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Speaker 20: Well, I mean that there's obviously variations down different parts.

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Speaker 4: Canterbury obviously making good progress.

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Speaker 20: That there was a lot of violent crime and it

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Speaker 20: comes and goes in cycles to some degree. But I

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Speaker 20: think fundamentally the signal that we've been sending as a

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Speaker 20: government has been very clear right from the start. You know,

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Speaker 20: you've you've got to remember, for about five years, the

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Speaker 20: previous government was all about, you know, don't worry, it's

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Speaker 20: somebody else's fault if you're doing this, a culture of excuses.

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Speaker 20: We're focusing on reducing the prison population, all this sort

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Speaker 20: of stuff, and we came in very clearly saying no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 20: there is no somebody else to blame. People have got

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Speaker 20: to be personally accountable for this. We're not going to

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Speaker 20: be talking about all that, and our focus on is

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Speaker 20: reduced seeing the number of victims of crime. That's what

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Speaker 20: we've got to focus the system on, and it's paying dividends.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, obviously we've got a lot of work to do.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was going to say, because what you appear

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Speaker 2: to have done is get the cops back on the beat.

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Speaker 2: All of that's good, and you've got a sense in

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Speaker 2: the community that people feel safe. We've seen that from surveys.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of the work that you want to

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Speaker 2: do in justice is yet to actually pass the House,

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Speaker 2: the discounting and all that sort of stuff in the courts.

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Speaker 2: So this could be even more effective by the time

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Speaker 2: I don't know whatever, get to the election next year.

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Speaker 2: For example. Well, we hope.

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Speaker 20: So, yes, we've passed the three strikes legislation. We're passed

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Speaker 20: the tougher sentencing regime, but they take effect from June.

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Speaker 20: So yes, that'll have a bigger impact because you know,

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Speaker 20: thinking about it logically, if you want to reduce the

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Speaker 20: number of victims of crime. The best place to start

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Speaker 20: is that very small group of New Zealanders who are

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Speaker 20: creating multiple victims and putting them in prison, getting them

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Speaker 20: out of circulation, so they're not creating new victims and

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Speaker 20: so will be that will continue. There's obviously been an

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Speaker 20: increase in the prison population, significant ones since we came

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Speaker 20: into power, and that's appropriate because we've got to get

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Speaker 20: on top of the situation.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Appreciate it. Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith more with

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell, Police Minister after eight in his regular slot

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Speaker 2: of course, just on those numbers. So there's still one

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty seven thousand victims of violent crime, which

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Speaker 2: is a lot of people, but it's thirty four thousand

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Speaker 2: down eighteen percent decrease and as I mentioned Canterbury, that's

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Speaker 2: a good news story. Auckland in particular has had a

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Speaker 2: very big decrease eleven thousand few of victims in Auckland,

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Speaker 2: nineteen percent decrease. Why Kato's, as far as I can

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Speaker 2: work out, it's the only region that's actually gone up.

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Speaker 2: There's more violent crime and Whykatter So I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: what that's about, but watching that press conference yesterday with Goldsmith,

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Speaker 2: Mitchell and lux and I thought Mitchell made a very

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Speaker 2: good point just on the gang patches, because everyone goes, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's not going to work, and it has worked. And

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Speaker 2: we had a cop on the show the other day

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Speaker 2: said it surprised her that it had worked, but there

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Speaker 2: seems no doubt. And what it was is vibes. Basically,

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Speaker 2: it's a government saying don't dick with us, or else

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Speaker 2: you're in trouble. And the gangs, as Mark put it

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Speaker 2: in the press come yesterday, no longer staunch up when

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Speaker 2: they go to places like hospitals and stuff, because they're

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Speaker 2: not wearing a patch. They're not feeling as cool as

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Speaker 2: they used to, and they're not making big dicks of

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Speaker 2: themselves the way they used to. And things have settled

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Speaker 2: down and all it takes is a bit of leadership

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Speaker 2: and a belief that you mean what you say. Simple

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Speaker 2: A eleven past seven, Cosking. Now other matters, what do

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Speaker 2: we make of these reports that the Russians and the

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Speaker 2: Indonesians are cozying up. Russia's looking to park a little

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Speaker 2: bit of long range airpower. We think about thirteen hundred

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Speaker 2: k's from Australia, Darwin. Of course, Putin and Subianto seem

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Speaker 2: to be increasingly friendly. International geopolitical analys Jeffrey Millers with us. Jeffrey,

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you.

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Speaker 21: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: They denied, Also, who do we believe?

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Speaker 21: Well, look, there's the old saying from Bismarks that never

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Speaker 21: believe anything in politics until it's been officially been denied.

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Speaker 21: And yet there has been a categoric denial from Indonesia

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Speaker 21: on this, and I think we should take them at

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Speaker 21: their word, MIC because it wouldn't really fit with Indonesian

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Speaker 21: and foreign policy. They have the foreign policy of non

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Speaker 21: alignment and conducted military exercises with Russia in the in

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Speaker 21: the recent past. But they've also conducted exercises with Australia,

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Speaker 21: the US, and China, and I think that tells you

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Speaker 21: really everything about how they approached the world.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we don't need to panic about it. How

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Speaker 2: would China react if it was true? For example, would

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Speaker 2: that be bothered by that given the relationship with the war?

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Speaker 21: I don't think so. As such, it's an interesting question, well,

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Speaker 21: how China would actually see this. Look, I think all

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Speaker 21: of this is just a reflection of the continued escalating

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Speaker 21: tensions that we're seeing around the region, around the world.

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Speaker 21: So you know, we should take this seriously. There's probably

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Speaker 21: something to it. It came out of the James Defense website.

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Speaker 21: I don't think they've made this up out of thin air.

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Speaker 21: There must be something to it somewhere. Peter Dutton, though

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Speaker 21: in Australia, is going to hype this up. He called

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Speaker 21: it a catastrophic failure. Yes today, the fact that Anthony

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Speaker 21: Albanezer didn't seem to know anything about it before James

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Speaker 21: published it, and he is going to hype this up

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Speaker 21: because we've got the TV debate on tonight. He's got

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Speaker 21: a vested interest in turning the page, moving on from

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Speaker 21: some of the gaffs in his campaign and turning the

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Speaker 21: focus to this hard security. But I think we need

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Speaker 21: to be very careful about telling countries, big countries and

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Speaker 21: the Global South like Indonesia, what they can and can't

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Speaker 21: do with the military paces. And we should also remember

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Speaker 21: mic that Russia is also part of the Asia Pacific.

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Speaker 21: They've had a Pacific fleet based near that of Ostok

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Speaker 21: since seventeen thirty one. We sometimes forget that Russia is

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Speaker 21: also an Asia Pacific power. As well as a European one.

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Speaker 2: Good insiders always Jeffrey appreciate it. Jeffrey Miller, International Geopolitical Analysts,

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Speaker 2: thirteen minutes past seven.

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Speaker 15: I'st get you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the debate's going to save Dunton. He

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Speaker 2: If you've ever want to see a wheels fall off

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Speaker 2: a campaign from a reasonably good standing start, Dutton's you man,

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Speaker 2: he will I'm assuming get rolled if he loses it,

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Speaker 2: although he's fought hard to get there, so anyway, that's

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Speaker 2: for another day. Step Price later on the program. Our

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Speaker 2: annual emissions just to make you feel good about yourself,

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Speaker 2: they've reduced again Official Climate balance sheet, all parts of

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Speaker 2: the economy shrank and admissions. What they don't explain, and

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Speaker 2: what I ask you this morning is could some of

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Speaker 2: these emissions dropping be a direct result of our economy

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Speaker 2: not going well?

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 2: In other words, when we don't make a lot of stuff,

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Speaker 2: do all of a sudden we not emit as much.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you can join those dots fairly easily.

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Speaker 2: And I just wonder how much of that's about that

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Speaker 2: The greenhouse gas infantry fell two percent in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: You go twenty twenty three. What's going on there? These

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Speaker 2: are slow figures to come out. They're the latest figures.

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Speaker 2: Similar drop in twenty twenty two. We peaked in two

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Speaker 2: thousand and six, pretty stable for a decade, fell in

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Speaker 2: twenty two and twenty three. Most of its trees. So,

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Speaker 2: while we continue this angst ridden debate over whether we

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Speaker 2: should be planting trees all over the place, trees are

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Speaker 2: doing the heavy lifting for our environment. It's a quarter

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Speaker 2: past seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: At b our CPI inflations out tomorrow officially for Q

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Speaker 2: one and there's some suspicion that's starting to creep back

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Speaker 2: up again. We look to the supermarket. The food prices

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Speaker 2: yesterday three point five.

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Speaker 3: Is that a worry?

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to the supermarket shortly. Seventeen past seven. Now,

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Speaker 2: the physiotherapy folk, I've got an idea to save us

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Speaker 2: money this morning. They want a minor law change that

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Speaker 2: would allow them to sign off patients to return to work. Currently,

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Speaker 2: a GP's got to do it. A Physiotherapy New Zealand

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Speaker 2: president Kirstin Davies, Well, this Kurston morning to you. Good

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Speaker 2: morning Mike, is this this old ancient thing where by

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Speaker 2: a physiotherapists aren't real medicos and you've got a fake

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Speaker 2: degree and so you need somebody proper in the medical

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Speaker 2: profession to do it all? Is that where that comes from?

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Speaker 15: Well, we do have a four year degree, of course,

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Speaker 15: and it is.

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Speaker 22: Within our scope of practice to sign people toward to

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Speaker 22: understake those medical certificates. So we're they're ready waiting to

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Speaker 22: do that. To reduce that bottle. We can get people

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Speaker 22: back to work in the timely fashion.

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Speaker 2: And that was all that would take, just a little thing.

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Speaker 2: You don't need to go back to a GP. A

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Speaker 2: physio can do it. That's all that's required to change it.

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Speaker 22: That's right. So that would be a legislation change at

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Speaker 22: the moment it mentions GP and nurse practitioners that just

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Speaker 22: need to add physiotherapists in there, but actually acc at

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Speaker 22: the moment could make an operational change and just and

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Speaker 22: allow that through the contracts that they had with us.

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Speaker 2: Why don't they.

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Speaker 22: You'd need to ask then that what we are seeing?

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Speaker 2: What it take me nine years to get an answer?

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Speaker 2: Like every other government department operator going in this country.

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Speaker 22: Mike, I have absolutely no comment on that.

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Speaker 2: It's the logic to it, and so I just don't

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Speaker 2: what would their argument be against you ticking the box

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Speaker 2: as opposed to a GP or this practitioner.

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Speaker 22: I'm not sure. I don't know. You'd need to ask them.

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Speaker 22: We know that there's an issue there. New Zealand cannot

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Speaker 22: afford to have bottlenecks in our health system. We all

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Speaker 22: need to be working seamlessly at the top of our

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Speaker 22: scope together, you know, to ensure that we don't have

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Speaker 22: these bottomnecks. They cost the New Zealand taxpayer millions. They

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Speaker 22: are disruptive to business. People need to get back to

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Speaker 22: work that disruptive to the patient. It's difficult and it's unnecessary.

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Speaker 2: You raise a very good point, Kirstin, and I am

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Speaker 2: going to follow it because I've got Sammy, and Sammy's

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Speaker 2: jomped today is to ring ACC and there seems to

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Speaker 2: because I can tell you some stories about ACC. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we could all tell each other stories about ACC.

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Speaker 2: They're in the whole once again financially and if they

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Speaker 2: can do something that's easy. So Sammy's job today is

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Speaker 2: to ring ACC up, break through the barrier that unquestionably

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Speaker 2: will be put up in front of him by way

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Speaker 2: of a simple answer, is Brian there, Hi, Brian, why

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Speaker 2: don't you do this? And Brian answers the question comes

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Speaker 2: back to us tomorrow. So what will now almost certainly

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Speaker 2: be a multi day operation. While they fart around trying

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Speaker 2: to find some department or some person who hasn't taken

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Speaker 2: three extra days off between Anzac Day and Easter, we

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Speaker 2: will come back with the answer to see why they

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Speaker 2: Ken I'm coming up seven twenty four at the halfway mark.

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Speaker 2: Halfway ish, can we suggest things are starting to turn

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Speaker 2: a little bit for the government now this week we've

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Speaker 2: seen the Prime Minister at Ruakura multi billion dollar investment

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Speaker 2: that sells the Marie economy showcases large amounts of foreign

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Speaker 2: money as well as the potential for huge productivity gains

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Speaker 2: in the economic growth. Monday, more money for tourism. Tourism

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Speaker 2: is coming backs too slow, way too slow, but the

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Speaker 2: tourists spent is up to post COVID levels. Numbers aren't

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Speaker 2: back with the spenders, which is good. Yesterday, Education Minister

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Speaker 2: Stanford pumping more money into classrooms, savings made from the

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Speaker 2: bespoke design nonsense and waste that the labour train wreck

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Speaker 2: was in charge of. Then the Prime Minister's back with

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Speaker 2: the police and the Justice Minister's spreaking these very good

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Speaker 2: looking numbers around victims of crime. This comes off the

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Speaker 2: back of three polls, all of which showed the same thing,

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Speaker 2: the government being returned to office if an election was

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Speaker 2: held today. Slowly but surely, specific bits are starting to

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Speaker 2: fall into place. We had a good GDP, of course

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Speaker 2: last time the growth stats were published. Clearly yesterday's numbers

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Speaker 2: are Crime, which was as big as any issue last election,

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Speaker 2: is looking very much back in the box. The gang

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Speaker 2: patch laws are working, even if the critics are saying

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Speaker 2: that they're working people, the surveys say feel safer on

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Speaker 2: the streets, and the victim numbers look very good. Indeed, health,

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Speaker 2: of course remains an issue, and there seems a determination

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Speaker 2: among the unions especially to keep it on the front page.

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Speaker 2: But the key bits that single support governments, the economy, education,

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Speaker 2: crime and justice, they look solid. If they can get

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Speaker 2: health under control, they'll be rolling. Obviously, the economic side

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Speaker 2: is fragile and open to a lot of stuff that's

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Speaker 2: beyond our control, so counting checkens is a bit pointless

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Speaker 2: at this point in time. And on that note, you

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Speaker 2: then come to this idea that's gaining some traction that

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Speaker 2: the Trump fiasco could well be the making of our

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Speaker 2: prime minister. A bloke who struggled to connect might well

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Speaker 2: have settled nicely into his wheelhouse with an economic mess

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Speaker 2: that could see the best of them shine when it's

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Speaker 2: needed most. If the polls play okay for them the

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Speaker 2: way they do now, there's a glimmer of light, and

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Speaker 2: by the time we get to the end of the year,

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Speaker 2: momentum might well be theirs an election. An election may

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Speaker 2: well be theirs to lose. Usky micahs someone who's had

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Speaker 2: many injuries. Why do you had many injuries? A funny

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Speaker 2: way to open the text. Mike is a person who's

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Speaker 2: had many injuries. What is it you've been doing? Falling

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Speaker 2: down a hill? Do you fall off the barstool? Do

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Speaker 2: you trip yourself up? What's going on? Physios have far

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Speaker 2: more clue than GPS about when it's time to get

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Speaker 2: back to work. It's a no brainer. Thank you, justin

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Speaker 2: and watch the door, Mike. Sorry, I would not, for

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Speaker 2: one be confident in a physiotherapist making a medical decision.

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Speaker 2: I've never found physios to be helpful. In fact, they

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Speaker 2: usually cause more harm than good. Jees, you're a downer.

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Speaker 2: You injure yourself a lot as well. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Every time I walked down Medical Mile, which is a

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Speaker 2: place I haven't been to, but nevertheless it's a place

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Speaker 2: with a lot of medical places. I've told you this before,

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Speaker 2: Nerola and I walked down as walking down to the

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Speaker 2: day funny enough, and the number of people in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand engaged actively in the health system never ceases to

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Speaker 2: amaze me the times I've gone to the doctor. I

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Speaker 2: went to the doctor recently, as I bored you witness

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Speaker 2: with and just the number of people who are there

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Speaker 2: for lord, note, they can't all be turning sixty like

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Speaker 2: me for a health check. They must have I mean,

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Speaker 2: they probably fallen over, They probably injured themselves, and they

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Speaker 2: need a reference for a physiotherapist. All the specialists I see.

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Speaker 2: I said, what are these people doing? How much insurance

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Speaker 2: is being paid out from Southern Cross and Booper and

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Speaker 2: Etna and all the others.

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Speaker 9: Are you know?

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Speaker 2: There's something not right about this country. There's like more

957
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Speaker 2: than more than average. It seems to me we're a

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Speaker 2: country of injured and ill people, don't you think? Am

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Speaker 2: I literally just making that stuff up? As I was

960
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Speaker 2: wandering down the road yesterday. The supermarkets and the prices

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Speaker 2: and inflation. Let's talk about this after the news, which

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Speaker 2: is next.

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Speaker 1: It's your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honored backs.

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Speaker 1: The mic Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover Villa designed

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Speaker 1: to intrigue and use Tom sad b Gee.

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Speaker 2: She is wandering around Asia at the moment. He's got

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Speaker 2: a three stopper. He's into Vietnam, Malaysia and Cambodia. If

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Speaker 2: I get time, I'll mention in Vietnam, because I hope

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Speaker 2: that from the pomement is the trip the other day.

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Speaker 2: We're expanding our we're selling fruits and vegetables to that

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Speaker 2: particular part of the world, and what we get from

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Speaker 2: them is increasing, which is good, but what they spend

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Speaker 2: in total is massive. So therefore there's a huge potential. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: point being, she's in v at now, Malaysia and Cambodia,

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Speaker 2: drumming up business, talking about free trade, and in one

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Speaker 2: of life's interesting little twists, I think she's going to

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Speaker 2: come out on the right side of the so I refer,

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Speaker 2: of course to Trump and his tariffs, so go back.

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Just two months China was a problem. China geopolitically was

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Speaker 2: an issue. We weren't liking China. China was suspicious. Their

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Speaker 2: plan for the world, their dealings with the world, was

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Speaker 2: not to our taste, particularly so in this particular part

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Speaker 2: of the world. And yet all of a sudden he's

985
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Speaker 2: going around going, hey, free trade, We're into free trade.

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Speaker 2: We like free trade. You want to do some more

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Speaker 2: free trade, We're all over it. And he Ultimately, I

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Speaker 2: think as America becomes increasingly isolated, is going to come

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Speaker 2: out in the right side of history. Twenty two minutes

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Speaker 2: away from eight.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you've got that.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't have said that a couple of months ago,

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Speaker 2: would you now? Back home? Speaking of things to sell

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Speaker 2: to people? What about the supermarket and the prices and

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Speaker 2: the food price inflation annually three point five? Does this

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Speaker 2: add to the general sense that a bit of pressure

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Speaker 2: might be going back on overall inflation picture That official

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Speaker 2: number comes out tomorrow, of course. Foodstuffs New Zealand managing

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Speaker 2: director Chris Quinn back with us, very good morning, Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: As regards price increases three and a half percent, Have

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Speaker 2: we got a brewing issue here? Is inflation back or not?

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Speaker 18: Look, it is definitely an uptack on what we've seen

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Speaker 18: so far this year. But there are a couple of

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Speaker 18: key causes in this one. So the food price inflation

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Speaker 18: number was three point five percent, our retail increases only

1006
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Speaker 18: two point eight so we're doing something to manage that.

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Speaker 3: But the big drivers right now were butter.

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Speaker 18: Prices in lamb legs in but are obviously what's going

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Speaker 18: on with dairy and the global dairy trade. Pricing, which

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Speaker 18: is fantastic for our economy, obviously does still flow through

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Speaker 18: to local prices of products made from dairy. And the

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Speaker 18: other thing for the month of March is that lamb

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Speaker 18: legs because of the shift of Easter, so the production

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Speaker 18: and promotions on those shifted from March to April. So

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Speaker 18: that's a couple of the key causes. And behind this

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Speaker 18: there's a lot of other products that have continued a

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Speaker 18: nice flat, you know, one to three percent sort of increase.

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Speaker 2: If you wanted to be healthy. And this is sort

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Speaker 2: of off topic, but nevertheless, what I'm looking at is

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Speaker 2: fruit and veggies are down. Tomatoes and cabbage are particularly down. Meat,

1021
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Speaker 2: poultry and fishes flat. So if you want to eat

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Speaker 2: well and avoid chocolate and all of that, you can

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Speaker 2: do so, and the price isn't going through the roof.

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Speaker 18: That's right, and that's probably the best news about the

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Speaker 18: last twelve months is that the fresh products that people

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Speaker 18: would want to be eating more of and have had

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Speaker 18: a reasonably hard time with some of the weather events

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Speaker 18: in the last two years, they have really stabilized and

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Speaker 18: New Zealand growers are doing a great job of getting

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Speaker 18: that value to our customers.

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Speaker 2: And that explanation you give on theari are there's still

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Speaker 2: people around who don't understand the equation. They may not

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Speaker 2: like it, but do they not understand it that we

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Speaker 2: sell stuff to the world. The world is willing to

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Speaker 2: pay us a lot of money, which is good for

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Speaker 2: the country. Therefore we end up paying that domestically.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I think in a world of very disturbed global

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Speaker 18: trade and settings right now, it is fantastic that we

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Speaker 18: have an economy that does that still. But as you

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Speaker 18: can you know, as the product is sold across the world,

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Speaker 18: then obviously the components that go into milk, butter, cheese,

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Speaker 18: products like that, you're going to see the impact of

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Speaker 18: the core components increasing in value. You're going to see

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Speaker 18: it in our local products. We try to talk about

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Speaker 18: it like this so that people do understand that's what's.

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Speaker 2: Happening PlayStation five, which has got nothing to do with

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Speaker 2: supermarkets yesterday said they are going to put the price

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Speaker 2: up because life is difficult, and so we're just going

1049
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Speaker 2: to pass that cost on. How much of that are

1050
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Speaker 2: we still seeing in food?

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Speaker 18: Look, I think food's pretty transparent.

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Speaker 9: It's had a lot of focus.

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Speaker 18: And there's been a lot of measurement and a lot

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Speaker 18: of tracking of food, So I think it has a

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Speaker 18: lot of scrutiny. Two thirds of what makes up the

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Speaker 18: price of what goes on with shelf and a supermarket

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Speaker 18: on average is the cost of goods from supplies. It's

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Speaker 18: had less scrutiny and less focus than supermarkets.

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Speaker 2: You got any read on tariffs, any idea of any

1060
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Speaker 2: of this floats down to a supermarket shelf and if

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Speaker 2: it does win and buy how much?

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Speaker 18: I guess the key thing is everyone will know about

1063
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Speaker 18: tariffs is that it's on products going into countries like

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Speaker 18: the United States, So at face value, it shouldn't affect

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Speaker 18: the price of goods that we buy. The real questions

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Speaker 18: will be two things. One is what happens to availability

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Speaker 18: around the world. Do we get much higher availability of

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Speaker 18: products because they're no longer being bought as much in

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Speaker 18: those countries. And the other one is what happens to

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Speaker 18: global shipping.

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Speaker 3: So as those.

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Speaker 18: Patterns change and settle, will that add cost to New Zealand,

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Speaker 18: Will we still get the same volume of shipping available

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Speaker 18: or will it improve things? And that's a real guessing

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Speaker 18: game right now that our team are looking at pretty

1076
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Speaker 18: closely every day.

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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised Chris appreciate it. Chris Quinn, who's with

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Speaker 2: food stuffs, of course, eighteen minutes away from eight tasking

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00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 2: free trade and the CCP is a delusion. You might

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00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 2: not like Trump, but don't let it blind you to

1081
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: what he's trying to do in going after the CPP

1082
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 2: market manipulation deception. I get all of that. If the

1083
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 2: Trump thing was just about usv China and what Chinese

1084
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: have done with dumping and manipulation and stuff, that'll be fine.

1085
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: If the Trump thing was just about them reciprocating to

1086
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: the trade tariffs they internationally, that it'd be fine. But

1087
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: it's not. And that's why it's a problem. Those numbers

1088
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: I was referring to with Chris, by the way, and

1089
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: this goes to these average numbers and why we have

1090
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: this perception that everything is more expensive than it should be.

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00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 2: You can actually do quite well in this country in

1092
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: terms of what isn't going up. So fruit and vegetables,

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00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 2: which we should all be eating more of, actually went

1094
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: down on price. So when I come and do the survey, going,

1095
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: is the price of groceries too high? Yes? Is the

1096
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: price of groceries going up too much? Yes? Wrong on

1097
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: both cases. So fruit and vegetables are actually going down,

1098
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: and if you want to go on an annual basis,

1099
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: they're down two and a half percent, which is quite significant.

1100
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: As I mentioned to Chris, tomatoes and cabbage are down substantially.

1101
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: We should all be a cabbage I personally like, I

1102
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: get that some people don't put tomatoes for lycopene is

1103
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 2: a must. Tomatoes on fifteen percent. When was the last

1104
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 2: time you saw something drop by fifteen percent? Tomatoes? Ere

1105
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 2: you go to meat, poultry, and fish, all of which

1106
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: we should be eating more of, virtually hasn't gone up

1107
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: price at all, So it's not even remotely inflationary. What

1108
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 2: has gone up and there's nothing we can do about

1109
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: it for obvious reasons is the dairy. Because we're selling

1110
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 2: so much internationally, so your yo gets up and your

1111
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: butter's up. I get all of that chocolate. You don't

1112
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: need chocolate, Yeah I need it, it's gone up in price.

1113
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: Don't buy it. Non alcoholic drinks, fizzy drink crap. You

1114
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: don't need it, don't buy it. And so by doing

1115
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: that for yourself, you can actually find that you can

1116
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: save quite a bit of money. Seventeen to two.

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00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:33,040
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Speaker 2: Talks at be Mike, don't buy chocolate. It's easter. See

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00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: that's that's what I'm saying. You want to buy chocolate,

1121
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 2: Buy chocolate, Buy as much chocolate as you want, but

1122
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: don't complain about the price. And this is the difficulty. See,

1123
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: if you want to save money, don't buy the stuff

1124
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 2: that's gone up in price. If you don't mind paying extra,

1125
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: then do it. I couldn't care less what you buy.

1126
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: But that's the point, isn't it. Mike Interesting the food

1127
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 2: Stuff's man said about the price of butter being a

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00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 2: dairy problem on a television I program last week. Dairy

1129
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: said the what do you mean? Dairy said the increases

1130
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: the price of butter. Lay with the supermarket funny, ain't

1131
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: no it's irrefutably an international success story for our dairy industry.

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00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 2: The auction was on this morning. Again, they have one

1133
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 2: every two weeks. The dairy auction butters up another one

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00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: point six this morning, and the international market is prepared

1135
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: to pay more and more for our dairy products. This

1136
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 2: is a good story, unfortunately, because we're not like Saudi

1137
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 2: Arabia and oil. We're not subsidizing these things, so we

1138
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 2: pay the international price, and by paying the international price,

1139
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 2: we are sort of in a sense, recognizing our success. Mike,

1140
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 2: buy your fruit and veach from your local fruit and

1141
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: beach shop. I tend to agree. I'd buy nothing from

1142
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 2: the supermarket that's fresh. I've got a butcher locally who's

1143
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: very good, but he runs the runs the butchery in

1144
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 2: the supermarket. But he was a proper butcher out in

1145
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 2: the real butchering world, and he retired. He was one

1146
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: of the number of people I've known who retired. He

1147
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: goes write them out and then six months later you

1148
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: got bored witless, and he came back and got a job.

1149
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 2: So he runs the butchery and the supermarket and he's

1150
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: it's like slick as it's fantastic, but supermarkets in general,

1151
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: I've never used for anything more than tins of or

1152
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 2: bags of And if you want fresh fruit and vegies,

1153
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: to go to a fresh fruit and vegie specialist. And

1154
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: if you want meat, you go to a meat or

1155
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: a fish specialist. Speaking of food Vietnam, the aforementioned one

1156
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy two million dollars is what we sold

1157
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 2: the Vietnamese. Is that a lot sort of but only

1158
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: three fruits. We should sell them much more. Do you

1159
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 2: know what the boom vegetable is? Squash? We should grow

1160
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: more squash and sell more squash because the Vietnamese eat

1161
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: lots of it and strawberries. Strawberries are the ones to

1162
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 2: go with anyway Vietnam are Our apples to Vietnam second

1163
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 2: highest behind China. So that one twenty six thirty million,

1164
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 2: four kiwi fruit, ten million for cherries, so there's huge

1165
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 2: room for movement. But they from that one seventy two million,

1166
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: they actually spend over three billion, three billion dollars buying

1167
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: in fruit and vegetables from around the world. So that's

1168
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 2: what we need to be into. We're alacrity. First time

1169
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: I've used that word today. Ten minutes away from eight my.

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Speaker 2: In the seven Away from A couple of years ago,

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00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 2: the new centralized polytics shut down the mains music school.

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00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: That lift a gap apparently in the tertiary system if

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00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: you wanted to study music. So former staff for studying

1175
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 2: something called Let's Go Music. The co director is Mark Baines.

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Speaker 2: Is well, there's Mike. Very good morning to you.

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Speaker 23: Good morning. How's it going?

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00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: Very well? Indeed, so what are you? You are UNI?

1179
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: You TICK or just a private operator?

1180
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 23: We're a PTE, so that's a private Tershee Education provider

1181
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 23: and and we've just started. Yeah, we started our first

1182
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 23: course the Certificate of Music in July.

1183
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: And you're certified by the appropriate authorities and I walk

1184
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 2: away with a piece of paper that's worth something somewhere exactly.

1185
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 23: So we're we're it's actually very difficult to get accredited

1186
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 23: by ms QA, and you need a lot of ground support.

1187
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 23: And because we've got industry support and we've got lots

1188
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 23: of excellent and I who are willing to testify, there

1189
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 23: as a need. There's it's that's part of the process

1190
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 23: to get the credited.

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00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 2: Right and did was the system the TPU king and

1192
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 2: the shambles of a centralized system. Was it the problem

1193
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: within that system they weren't able to operate something? What

1194
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: was the argument for killing the mains side of the equation?

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00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 23: Well, it was a numbers things, but I think it

1196
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 23: was a it was that was a convenient numbers thing

1197
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 23: not to do along the past. It had just gone

1198
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 23: through COVID obviously, and numbers were down at that point.

1199
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 23: But irackly, you know, at that year twenty twenty three,

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00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,959
Speaker 23: we had we had a huge intake planned and yeah,

1201
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 23: so it wasn't Yeah, I don't want to say too much,

1202
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 23: but it was probably it was probably easiest, easier to

1203
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 23: let us go, but got flooded.

1204
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 2: Gotta okay. So having said that, what the qualification you'd delivered?

1205
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: What who is it that studies this stuff? Is this

1206
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 2: hobby stuff? Oh I want to be a DJ, I

1207
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: want to be famous all that. Or is it like

1208
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 2: this is a career, this is my life and this

1209
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: is where I'm eating.

1210
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.

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00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 23: It is for career musicians and we do need that.

1212
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 23: And it's difficult obviously being a musician and to make

1213
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 23: a professional career out of it. But I guess the

1214
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:11,479
Speaker 23: certificate is a first step towards that a very long road,

1215
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 23: and it's really just for those who you can't think,

1216
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 23: like myself, can't think of any other career that would

1217
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 23: makes sense, you know, for them, because they love music

1218
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 23: that much. So that's it's the first step towards a career.

1219
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 23: And obviously, well not necessarily obviously, but we're developing a

1220
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 23: diploma that we're hopefully going to run next year and

1221
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 23: then a course of degree. We've got a degree planned

1222
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 23: as well, but at the same time we've got a

1223
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 23: couple of other courses. We've got a masterclast series, and

1224
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 23: we're hoping to get sort of like big industry players

1225
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 23: to sort of do some online learning, probably pre recorded

1226
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 23: that sort of thing with some with some you know,

1227
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 23: face to face on a weekly basis. That can be

1228
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 23: specific to people who need, you know, a particular service

1229
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 23: like industry support, try and write their music or whatever,

1230
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 23: and we do it Weekend Warrior's program as well. We'd

1231
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 23: just got to start that up, which is far more

1232
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 23: hobbyists to obviously working in the field, and they just

1233
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 23: want to connect with other musicians and play music and

1234
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 23: have that curated in a sense by musicians.

1235
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Speaker 9: A professional there you go.

1236
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 2: As one door closed, as another door opens. Go well it,

1237
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: let's go. Music is what they're calling themselves. Mike Baines,

1238
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: Is you manly five minutes away from eight? Mike, that

1239
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: would be a sting here, Andy, we just do the

1240
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: little thing where we're going past. That's the one there,

1241
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: he goes. We export personmans to Vietnam, Mike, have done

1242
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: so for the past five years. Person is an interesting thing.

1243
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: I grow persons. When I say I grow persons, I've

1244
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: got a person tree and I've had trouble with my personontree.

1245
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: And when we first arrived at the property, it was

1246
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 2: like festooned with personmans, and I thought absolutely fantastic. And

1247
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: then somebody goes, what do you do with the persons?

1248
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 2: And of course the answer is nothing. And so what

1249
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 2: they eventually do is fall off the tree and they

1250
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: roll down the hill and that's the end of them.

1251
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 2: Earth to earth goes back to it anyway, Apparently you

1252
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: make jem But then how many people you know who

1253
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 2: have person and jam But you're exporting to Vietnam, So

1254
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: maybe I need to get into the export business. They

1255
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: pay high prices up with Thailand, which has been our

1256
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: main market. For twenty years. China too difficult as their

1257
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 2: quarantine requirements are over the top for our crop. Well,

1258
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: I'm glad, I'm glad you're doing business, Mike. What country

1259
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 2: do you live in? Well this one, bananas have gone

1260
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 2: up forty cents a kilo and Woolworth's see this one.

1261
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say earlier on the RUGA, no amount

1262
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: of evidence is going to convince you that anything's happened

1263
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: outside of your mind, which says the bananas have gone

1264
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 2: up forty cents. I can't afford groceries. It's all a

1265
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,959
Speaker 2: massive scandal, and it's probably Trump's fault, isn't it. That's

1266
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 2: what you think. And I can't present any graph, chart,

1267
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: stats or facts that are going to change your mind

1268
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 2: on that.

1269
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 9: Now, Mark and Jinny.

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Speaker 2: Are with us in a couple of moments. Yes, it

1271
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 2: is time for politics Wednesday. Here at News Talks.

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Speaker 1: There the news and the news makers the mic hosting

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00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts across residential,

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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news talks.

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Speaker 24: That'd be my granddaddy Rampsigne in Least, Tennessee. I guess

1276
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 24: that's where I got my nee speed. I sell it

1277
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 24: illegal people nomb in the air fame. I'm a little crazy,

1278
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 24: but the world's is sing.

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01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 9: How good is this?

1280
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: This is the song? I keep it a load of this.

1281
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 2: This is the song for summer. So come December January

1282
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 2: when we pre record these pieces, and you hear me

1283
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 2: over the summer period saying Hi, it's Mike Hosking. Hear

1284
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: from us talks, but I hope you having a great summer.

1285
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 2: My song is so this is the song of summer.

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01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 2: Listened to this, but you.

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Speaker 24: Never know these days. I'm a little crazy, but the world's.

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Speaker 2: In he's We got to get them back on the program, Semmi.

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Speaker 2: I talked to Semmi and your capacity as executive producer.

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Speaker 2: Boss came in earlier on and he goes on, Mike,

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Speaker 2: you've got to tell people who SEMy is. And I'm going, jeez,

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Speaker 2: I've already done this. But the Boss doesn't listen to

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Speaker 2: the show much anymore anyway, So Sam is Sammy, and

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Speaker 2: his role as executive producer needs to go. Get Morgan

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Speaker 2: Wallin on as opposed to Sammy's role as junior research

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Speaker 2: assistant and the other jobs. So multiple jobs, but Morgan

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Speaker 2: Wallin's got a new album out in it's thirty four

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Speaker 2: what do we say the other day? Thirty four to

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Speaker 2: thirty five tracks, huge number of tracks on it, and

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Speaker 2: this is a winner. This is the latest single I'm

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Speaker 2: a little bit crazy. In fact, I may play that

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Speaker 2: later on in the program. In fact, Mark and Ginny

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Speaker 2: good morning to you. If you two aren't any good,

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Speaker 2: I may end the segment early and play some more

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Speaker 2: of that and see how Yeah, absolutely, I've anyway now,

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Speaker 2: Ginny'd start with you. With Andrew Little, we talked about

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Speaker 2: it briefly or alluded to. I think it was last

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Speaker 2: week or the week before. So would you see him

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Speaker 2: winning the maryalty?

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Speaker 13: Is he you?

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Speaker 2: Forget the labor thing, but just what have you known?

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Speaker 2: Is he a good mayor?

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Speaker 13: I think you would be a great mayor. People are

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Speaker 13: looking for someone decisive, who can take control, bring people

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Speaker 13: together and bring some confidence back into the Wellington area,

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Speaker 13: and I think he takes all of those boxes.

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Speaker 2: What part of the problem though, in sprooking him the

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Speaker 2: way you just did, the fact that people don't seem to,

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Speaker 2: for whatever reason, understand that he is just a mayor

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Speaker 2: with just one vote, and unless he gets a counsel

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Speaker 2: Alione with his sort of thinking he goes nowhere.

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Speaker 13: I think Wellingtonians are pretty smart. They're pretty connected into

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Speaker 13: what's happening, not just in New Zealand but the world.

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Speaker 13: And they understand that the role of the mayor is

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Speaker 13: to bring that council together. You need to have a

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Speaker 13: majority and a consensus in order to get things done,

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Speaker 13: and they've seen that that's important if we want to

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Speaker 13: see progress in Wellington.

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Speaker 2: If Wellingtonians are smart, how do you explain tamotha Paul?

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Speaker 13: Look, I'm not responsible for Tamoth and Paul.

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Speaker 2: I've been very Wellingtonian.

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Speaker 13: I don't agree with who views.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, she's got a majority of six thousand and the

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Speaker 2: Wellington Central Electorate. How do you explain that.

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Speaker 13: I would have to interview six thousand people to understand that,

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Speaker 13: because I don't know.

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Speaker 2: What do you do Mark when you've got people actively

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Speaker 2: selling T shirts to defund the police?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: I mean that.

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Speaker 25: I guess the question for Chris Hippins and Giny is

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Speaker 25: that they came out and said that there's some of

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Speaker 25: the issues that she raised it are valid.

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Speaker 4: I mean, what are they? What are the issues that

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Speaker 4: she's raised.

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Speaker 13: I think the point she raised was the report that

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Speaker 13: police themselves have commissioned, which is the looking into with

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Speaker 13: these institutional bias and understanding policing delivery is a piece

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Speaker 13: of work that police themselves have undertaken and have then

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Speaker 13: found some outcomes that they do need to improve on.

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Speaker 13: So I think that's the point she was talking about.

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Speaker 25: Well, on the instruction of Chris Hippins who told them

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Speaker 25: to go away and do a report on institutional bias

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Speaker 25: and racism and which our police is not.

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Speaker 4: We do not have a racist police. Are you saying

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Speaker 4: that our police are racist?

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Speaker 1: I think that's what she's saying.

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Speaker 13: I think you need to read that report because you're well,

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Speaker 13: it was your report.

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Speaker 4: It was your report, not my report focused public safety.

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Speaker 25: You are focused on the police appointing the fingers that

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Speaker 25: themselves have called themselves racist.

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Speaker 4: We're focusing exactly the narrative that the Green said. So, yes,

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Speaker 4: you are aligned.

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Speaker 2: We're focused about that.

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Speaker 13: Can I speak now? Is that all right? Mike? Am

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Speaker 13: I allowed to answer? So we're focused on making sure

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Speaker 13: our communities are safe now, but also breaking the cycle

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Speaker 13: of crime. And that's the problem with this government is

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Speaker 13: they have no plan for breaking that cycle of crime.

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Speaker 13: The police undertook a really good piece of research to

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Speaker 13: where they can improve reaching into a wide range of

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Speaker 13: communities to make sure that they can police with confidence

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Speaker 13: and have the trust and confidence of communities. And if

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Speaker 13: we are serious about improving the reporting, it's a vital

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Speaker 13: that communities report crime and Mark we should know that, Mike.

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Speaker 25: Can I just very quickly respond to that. If you're

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Speaker 25: talking about public confidence and police under you, guys, public

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Speaker 25: confidence of police was trending down. The latest report that's

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Speaker 25: come out around public confidence and police in the last

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Speaker 25: twel months, as it's trending back up again, so public

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Speaker 25: confidence and police is growing, and I just want to

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Speaker 25: I just want to make this point, Mike.

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Speaker 13: Do you think it's because I'm understanding policing delivery Hipkins?

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Speaker 25: When he came into Parliament, his letter of expectations to

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Speaker 25: the police was around doing a report on whether or

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Speaker 25: not they're racist. Our letter of expectation was to get

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Speaker 25: out there and make the public safe.

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Speaker 4: That is the difference.

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Speaker 2: I'm listening to this in the middle. I'm sitting here again,

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Speaker 2: ding ding in the middle here. Jenny. You you just

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Speaker 2: sounded to me like a university researcher, you know, And

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Speaker 2: we did a piece of work and people are just thought,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, all I want to see is some

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Speaker 2: cops on the corner and feel a bit safer on

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Speaker 2: the street.

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Speaker 13: And we came out and delivered oney eight hundred extra police.

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Speaker 13: We increased investment in the police by fifty percent. Under

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Speaker 13: Mark's watch, he's delivered thirteen out of five hundred police

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Speaker 13: and we've actually seen a cut in the overall police budget.

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Speaker 13: So if you want to talk about funding the police, it.

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Speaker 9: Wasn't actually.

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Speaker 25: Tonight, Drew said my number one, the police were underfunded

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Speaker 25: when we came into government. We immediately put a budget March,

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Speaker 25: so I let you have your say.

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Speaker 4: Let me have mine.

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Speaker 25: When we come into government, there are one hundred and

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Speaker 25: twenty million dollar underfunded on the cost pressures that the

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Speaker 25: previous government hadn't done it.

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Speaker 4: We immediately did that. Any cost savings.

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Speaker 25: The fifty five million dollars in cost savings went immediately

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Speaker 25: into the front line for new equipment.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, we.

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Speaker 25: Were two hundred understaffed when we came into government, so

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Speaker 25: the previous government allowed numbers to drop by two hundred.

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Speaker 25: We're working really hard to get above that. And at

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Speaker 25: the same time, with the numbers that we've got. We've

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Speaker 25: got crime trending down, we've got a police station opening

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01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 25: in Auckland Central, we've got forty percent more police visibility

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Speaker 25: and people on the beat, and we've got public confidence

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Speaker 25: coming back right.

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Speaker 13: And you've got a ministerial advisory group saying that you've

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Speaker 13: lost control of organized crime with a ninety six percent

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Speaker 13: increase in me.

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01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 4: We haven't lost control of organized crime.

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Speaker 2: Corners you too. We'll come back with more in the moment.

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell, Jinny Anderson, thirteen past the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Husking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, car It

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Speaker 1: Blay News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be So was it sixteen past eight? Politics? When

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Speaker 2: the Wednesday Junior and Mark just real quick because I

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Speaker 2: want to move on from crime and punishment in general.

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Speaker 2: But the thing yesterday with the victims of crime, you

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Speaker 2: can't argue with stats. The stats, the numbers are down.

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01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 2: They've met a target. This is good. Do the gang

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Speaker 2: patch thing police like it. That's good as well. They're

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Speaker 2: getting some wins, aren't they.

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Speaker 13: They've shifted to a new methodology, and given the last

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Speaker 13: release that they put out, which was from a Twitter handle,

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Speaker 13: you have to question the validity of that data. So yeah,

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01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 13: question the justice data because they're doing it quarterly and

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01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,479
Speaker 13: it's designed to be put out annually. So it moves

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01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 13: around twenty eight thousand reduction in one quarter. Let's see

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Speaker 13: after a year where it sits. That's a better indicator.

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Speaker 2: If it sits down, will you con says that this

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01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 2: is the problem with being in the opposition. You've got

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01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 2: to criticize even when the numbers don't go your way.

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Speaker 2: If it's down, well, you can see that the gang

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01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,439
Speaker 2: patch thing has worked, is working, and there are fewer

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01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 2: victims of crime in this community and that people do

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01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 2: generally feel safer on the street.

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Speaker 13: If that is not just a reduction and family violence.

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01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 13: So that latest data showed a downturn in family violence.

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01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,919
Speaker 13: We know family violence is already underreported, so it would

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01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 13: be disingenuous of the government to pull back from family violence.

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01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 13: Say this is a win as these fewer victims when

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01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 13: they're not actually breaking the cycle of quant crime, they're

1458
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 13: just sweeping it under the carpet. So we need to

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01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 13: understand where that reduction comes from, particularly if it's coming

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Speaker 13: from family violence.

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Speaker 4: So might really quickly on the numbers.

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Speaker 25: We released these numbers three months in the government, which

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Speaker 25: showed that they were that increased massively, and labor was

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01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 25: completely solid on it, right because it fitted their narrative.

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01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 25: Now we release the numbers sixteen months into government showing

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Speaker 25: that we're getting a big reduction, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 25: I know you can't trust the numbers.

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Speaker 4: It's just a joke.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 13: Your OWNUSICE minister has said that they jump around and

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Speaker 13: they're volatile, and we need to wait for entire year,

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Speaker 13: not on quarterly data, when that data was designed to

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01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 13: be reported annually.

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Speaker 2: Okay, gold Genny, I've got to change your sobject Golden

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01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 2: Visa's ginny. That seems to be working. You bring people

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Speaker 2: into the country five or ten million dollars. We've had

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Speaker 2: more people than we've ever had applying at the moment.

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01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 2: That's good for the country, isn't it.

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Speaker 13: It is good, But it's the type of investment we're

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Speaker 13: seeing from that, so there's been quite a few questions

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01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 13: raised about whether or not that's actually going to result

1482
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 13: in the right type of investment. We were lobbied by

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01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 13: those sort of investor types that they're concerned that that

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01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 13: won't necessarily translate into good long term structural investment in

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Speaker 13: New Zealand, So it does raise questions in that space.

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Speaker 2: If it does, will you keep it?

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Speaker 13: We want to see the right type of investment to

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01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 13: make sure that it's growing our economy. So someone who's

1489
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 13: wealthy in coming in here with that passive type of

1490
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 13: investment if it's not actually helping New Zealand here.

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Speaker 2: But what I asked you is if they bring their

1492
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 2: money in and it helps grow the economy, will you

1493
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 2: keep it.

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01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 13: I can't make policy on ZB I will always it's

1495
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 13: an idea. If something is working and it's producing good

1496
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 13: outcomes for New Zealanders, higher wages, better investment in our infrastructure,

1497
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Speaker 13: of course it's a good idea.

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Speaker 2: What we need, Mark, though, is the ability for these

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01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 2: people to come into the country and buy a house.

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Speaker 2: And Winston's holding you up on the houses. Why don't

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01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 2: you have you had a What are you going to

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01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 2: do about that? Because you can't have a person coming

1503
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 2: in investing ten million dollars on a golden visa then

1504
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 2: going straight to the airbnb because that's not what we want,

1505
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 2: is it.

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01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 25: Yeah, that's been raised as a legitimate issue and obviously

1507
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 25: that will have to be worked through. But I mean,

1508
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 25: obviously the coalition government just focused on getting good quality

1509
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:26,799
Speaker 25: foreign investments of the country.

1510
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 9: We need that.

1511
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 25: Yeah, the Golden Visa, the Golden Visa is proving to

1512
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 25: be very effective in doing that. Labour's just arguing labors

1513
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 25: the party, you know, it's just what I argue against

1514
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 25: everything that we're doing as a country to try and

1515
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 25: get ourselves ahead. And I think that's a bit rich

1516
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 25: after six years of them and us going back with

1517
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 25: so rapid.

1518
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 2: Do you, Jenny, do you trust the media in general?

1519
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 2: What would you score be? Ten? I love them, trust

1520
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 2: every word they say. One They're a pile of crap.

1521
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 2: Where are you at?

1522
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 13: Look, things are changing a bit. I have to say,

1523
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 13: like in the last couple of years of my life,

1524
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 13: we're entering a new era. You can't rely on things

1525
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 13: to be exactly right. And that data is a good

1526
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 13: example of how you tell a story. So yeah, I'm

1527
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 13: skeptical sometimes. I think it's always important that people check

1528
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 13: what they're seeing from another source. So two sources is

1529
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 13: always a good way of understanding what you think. It's

1530
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 13: an accurate picture.

1531
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 2: Where are you at?

1532
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 9: Mark?

1533
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 25: I just think that look, for us as politicians, we

1534
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 25: have to have a relationship with the media.

1535
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 4: We have to work with them.

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01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 25: I would hope that they are sensitive enough and have

1537
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 25: the EQ to listen to what the public, the consumers,

1538
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 25: the people that actually want to read them are saying,

1539
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 25: and that they're able to bring all those journalistic skills

1540
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 25: to be here and be able to respond to that.

1541
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 13: I think the challenges that AI bring as well. I mean,

1542
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 13: that's a whole new kind of realm of interest.

1543
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 2: Very good point, Mike. I saw Mark Mitchell at food

1544
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 2: Stuffs this week with about twenty police officers. Can you

1545
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 2: ask him what he was doing there, Frank, what were

1546
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 2: you doing there?

1547
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 3: Mark?

1548
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 4: I was getting it. I was getting a briefing.

1549
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 25: And we're working through facial recognition because I'm a huge

1550
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 25: fan of facial recognition. Food Stuffs have been very responsible

1551
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,839
Speaker 25: in the way that they've tried that. It's been really rigorous,

1552
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 25: and we're working through in os theater show as a

1553
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 25: sign of support and solidarity in terms of rolling this out,

1554
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 25: I think it's going to be very effective around staff

1555
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,799
Speaker 25: safety and customer safety.

1556
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Nice to see you too, We'll see you

1557
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 2: next Wednesday. Gimmy Anderson, Mark Mitchell Exclusive to the mic

1558
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 2: Hosking Breakfast six twenty two.

1559
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities, News, Togs,

1560
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: Dead Be the.

1561
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 2: Day twenty five Mike, come out walking trying to be

1562
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 2: positive about the world. I hope you're not outwalking in Auckland.

1563
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 2: I think they've banned that today because of the severe

1564
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 2: weather that's coming away. I think you need to tie

1565
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 2: down your trampolines. The Auckland Harbor Bridge is reduced in

1566
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 2: lanes already. I'm looking out the window at the moment

1567
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 2: it looks to be there's a light drizzle and I

1568
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 2: don't even know I'd call it a breeze, but apparently

1569
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 2: they've decided to reduce the lanes down to fall. But

1570
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're doing out walking. I mean,

1571
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: unless you're texting me from another part of the country

1572
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 2: where the weather is not, you know, cyclonic anyway. Can

1573
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 2: Genny not be? Can Genny be a tad more positive?

1574
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 2: How depressing the listen it? Well, that's the opposition that

1575
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 2: you know. It's the plant of the opposition member, isn't it.

1576
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 2: Mike Personan's drive beautifully. Now this is good because sure

1577
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,719
Speaker 2: of going back to the person and people who export

1578
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 2: up into Thailand, Vietnam, et CETERA person's drive beautifully, get

1579
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 2: yourself a dehydrator, thin slightly thin, slice thinly and enjoy.

1580
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 2: I might give it a go. I'm not sure I

1581
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 2: will that I might travels return. I give you these numbers,

1582
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 2: the busiest airports in the world, and just travel is booming.

1583
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 2: And if I get time later and I probably won't,

1584
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 2: but I'm reading a couple of articles in the last

1585
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 2: couple of days the amount of investment that airlines are

1586
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 2: making into what they call the front end of the plane,

1587
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 2: the premium economy. Premium economy is going gangbusters all over

1588
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 2: the world. With all the airlines, they cannot pile enough

1589
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 2: money into premium economy. And that's before you get to

1590
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 2: first class. Anyway, all the world's airport it's the busiest

1591
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 2: airports in the world. They're all back. They've all got

1592
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 2: more and more passengers each and every year. And it

1593
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 2: just reminds me of the tourism figures that came out

1594
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 2: this week. The government throw another thirteen million, and good

1595
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:10,600
Speaker 2: on them for doing it. We need to go, we

1596
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,839
Speaker 2: need to get out into the world and start promoting ourselves.

1597
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 2: Capacities back. So it's not like it's a latic of

1598
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: seats or planes coming into the country. People go, oh,

1599
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 2: it's so expensive.

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01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 3: No it's not.

1601
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 2: I mean, yes it is. But people have the money

1602
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 2: because they're flying all over the world. Every single airport,

1603
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: the world's busiest airports, every single one of them in

1604
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 2: the top ten, has increased exponentially. There are passenger traffic

1605
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 2: in the past year. So i'll give you those numbers

1606
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 2: after the news. We'll also cross the Tasman to Steve Price.

1607
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 2: A couple of polls out. It looks like I'll be

1608
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 2: interested in his view, but it looks like Dutton's done

1609
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 2: for He's blown the campaign. It's a shambles and it's

1610
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: Albanezy home all the way with still a couple of

1611
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 2: weeks ago. Anyway, Steve is next for you.

1612
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day the

1613
01:14:56,680 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: my casting Breakfast with a Vida Retirement, Community Life, your

1614
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: Way News togs'd.

1615
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 2: Be interesting update out of Australia. If you live in

1616
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 2: Russia and your Australian you would need to consider flying

1617
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,799
Speaker 2: to Serbia or Turkey to vote. This From the Australian

1618
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 2: Embassy yesterday they've confirmed they will not be providing voting

1619
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 2: services because the Department Foreign Affairs and Trades do not travel,

1620
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 2: so you're not supposed to be in Russia. I suppose

1621
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 2: there are plenty of Australians who live in Russia for

1622
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 2: other reasons. They suspended in person postal voting collection services.

1623
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 2: So the nearest they're offering is you can get a

1624
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 2: direct flight to Belgrade or anchoror you'd need to be

1625
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 2: one Australian in Russia and then be pretty exercised about voting.

1626
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:39,799
Speaker 2: To do that when you're twenty three minutes away from.

1627
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 16: Nine international correspondence with ends in eye insurance peace of

1628
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,560
Speaker 16: mind for New Zealand business.

1629
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 2: Would be flight's very good morning to you.

1630
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 3: Compulsory voting if you don't go get finn Yeah.

1631
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 2: Now what do you do about that? If you're in Russia?

1632
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 2: What do you do if you don't vote it? Would

1633
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 2: they find you for I.

1634
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,440
Speaker 3: Think paying the fine and be cheaper than flying to Belgrade?

1635
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 2: Don't that's true? Do they ever chase people up for

1636
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 2: not voting? And if they do, do they is it

1637
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 2: an instant final or do you have to go through

1638
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 2: the court process?

1639
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 3: No court processes, but it gets like a parking fine

1640
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 3: if you don't pay it. It goes into some computer

1641
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 3: somewhere and one day down the road the coppers will

1642
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 3: pick you up for speeding and say, by the way,

1643
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 3: you didn't vote two years ago. Is you're going to

1644
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 3: go and pay your fine? Works?

1645
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 2: And do thousands of people get pinged every time you

1646
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 2: have an election or not?

1647
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, a lot of people do, because a lot

1648
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 3: of people couldn't be bothered voting. I mean there's a

1649
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 3: lot of appathy towards elections and election campaigns, and people

1650
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 3: don't like both parties, so they simply don't vote. The

1651
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 3: smartest thing to do is get a postal vote and

1652
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 3: just scribble on it. That's the easiest thing to do.

1653
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 2: Having said all of that, I put some polling. I

1654
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 2: didn't put the polling out. The polling's being reported this morning.

1655
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 2: It seems Dutton's in real trouble. Is that fair?

1656
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be quite as hard as that. I wanted

1657
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 3: to try and give you an assessment where I think

1658
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 3: it's at two weeks days of campaigning to go this week,

1659
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 3: then you've got Easter so no one's doing anything. Then

1660
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 3: you've got another three days, and then he got Anzac Day.

1661
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 3: I think he's just hanging on. I mean, look, one

1662
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 3: assessment that I heard yesterday which I agree with. There

1663
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 3: are seat by seat battles going on right around the

1664
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 3: country and outer suburban areas, big cities that the polling

1665
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,560
Speaker 3: doesn't pick up. And I'm comparing this election to the

1666
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 3: one where you go back to twenty nineteen. Bill Shorten

1667
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 3: was in opposition, Labor expected to win easily, He had

1668
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 3: the removal vans backed up to his house ready to

1669
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 3: take over, and Scott Morrison beat him. Morrison won three seats,

1670
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 3: Labor lost one, and Morrison just hung on to be

1671
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 3: beaten three years later. I think that's where we're at.

1672
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 3: If I had to call it right now, I would

1673
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 3: say that I think within the Liberal Coalition they're probably

1674
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,719
Speaker 3: now starting to think, Okay, we're not going to quite

1675
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 3: get there, but can we win enough seats to win

1676
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 3: it in three years time. That might be a bit harsh,

1677
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 3: but that's how I feel about it. I think the

1678
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 3: complicating thing is all of these independents, so you've got

1679
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,719
Speaker 3: twelve on the cross bench, You've got all these teals

1680
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 3: spending a huge amount of money. Who knows where exactly

1681
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 3: that's coming from, a lot from Climate two hundred and

1682
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 3: Simon Homes at Court. But I think the Teal polish

1683
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 3: has worn off slightly, but they'll hang on to their

1684
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 3: Teal seats in Sydney. I think they'll lose a couple

1685
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 3: in Melbourne, but don't be surprised if the Lips pick

1686
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 3: up are out of suburban sweeper seats in Victoria and

1687
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,719
Speaker 3: in Queensland they'll get a couple back from the Greens.

1688
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 3: But I think they're going to fall agonizing you short,

1689
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 3: that would be my system.

1690
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,600
Speaker 2: Okay, good if and no one knows more than you do.

1691
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 2: So if that's the case, does douz and then stay

1692
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 2: versus if it's not the case and he gets cleaned out,

1693
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 2: does he then go?

1694
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 3: The problem is there's no alternative really, I mean, there's

1695
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 3: no one on that front bench that you'd go, Wow,

1696
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 3: they're a great perform His campaigning has been good. He's

1697
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 3: out campaigned out and easy in terms of the way

1698
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 3: it presenting public. He's got this sort of unfortunate Voldemort

1699
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 3: image that people and cartoon has like to laugh about,

1700
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 3: and that's not his fault. But fronting up to the media,

1701
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 3: answering questions appearing to be extremely well briefed and very

1702
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 3: honest about things. I think he's won the campaign, but

1703
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 3: that's not going to win enough seats for the coalition

1704
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 3: to win. And I put that down there. A lot

1705
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 3: of his front benches are pretty weak.

1706
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:26,719
Speaker 2: Now mid a scare which I thought was quite clever.

1707
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 2: I mean, is that used on a daily basis, every day.

1708
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 3: Out to the op and he he has this little

1709
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 3: trick of pulling his Medy Care card out of his

1710
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 3: jacket pocket, flashing it around. He has his number you

1711
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 3: taped over, which is to be fair, I guess that's okay.

1712
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 3: This is the eight point five billion dollars where they

1713
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 3: tipped in right at the beginning to say to everybody

1714
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 3: you turn up at the GP, this is the only

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Speaker 3: card you need. He did this trick in Tasmania yesterday

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Speaker 3: and there was a vocaled Mark Boldock, a doctor who

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01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 3: runs a company called the GP Collective. Now what that

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01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 3: is is a bunch of GP clinics in Tazzy and

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Speaker 3: your south far as the Queensland. He stood next to

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01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister nodding away sagely saying, oh, yes, it's

1721
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Speaker 3: still going to be great. When he was asked afterwards,

1722
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 3: is everybody going to be able to just turn up

1723
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Speaker 3: with their Medicare card and not their credit card. He said,

1724
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 3: quote and these are direct quotes. I think it's going

1725
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 3: to be. It's going to be on a case by

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Speaker 3: case basis. I don't think GP practices are going to

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Speaker 3: want to go backwards to support the bulk billing scenario.

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01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 3: I can imagine some practices that are mixed billing will

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01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 3: look closely at the model and the increase and say,

1730
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 3: will it be better or worse off for us? So

1731
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 3: what do you think is going to happen?

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Speaker 2: Interesting?

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Speaker 3: I mean a lot of them are not going to

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01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 3: bulk build. You turn up and the GAP's going to

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01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 3: still be paid, and the Prime Minister's trying to tell

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01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 3: us that's disappeared. It hasn't.

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Speaker 2: It hasn't. Did We did the same thing here with

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01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 2: two or degree kids and they hand out money and

1739
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 2: all that happens is in the real world, you still

1740
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 2: pay you because the doctors can't make it work with

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01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:02,759
Speaker 2: the amount of money that the government pays. It's always

1742
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 2: when the case, and it will never change.

1743
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And GPS are a business. They're a small business.

1744
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 3: You're don't remember that, and they're not going to run

1745
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 3: a small business at a loss. And part of the

1746
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 3: problem is you can't convince medical students who go through

1747
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 3: their medical degrees to go and be GPS. Because they

1748
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 3: see their surgeon mates who are operating on things like

1749
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 3: my shoulder making five grand to fix up a torn tendon.

1750
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 3: They go, why would I sit in the GP office

1751
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 3: and work for less money?

1752
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 2: Speaking of your shoulder, you're backfast bowling.

1753
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 3: I wish it's a long haul. It's my left wing.

1754
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 3: My left wing is in trouble.

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01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 2: Jeez, okay, are you worried about the Russians.

1756
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,560
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I mean, I'm very intrigued to

1757
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 3: find out how this got lobbed in the middle of

1758
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 3: an election campaign. I mean claims that Russia's going to

1759
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 3: base and and they spoke about it earlier long range

1760
01:21:56,479 --> 01:22:00,040
Speaker 3: bombers about thirteen hundred kilometers off the Australian mainly, and

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Speaker 3: it's been reported by Jane Defense, the Jane Defense Journal.

1762
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 3: Now you and I are old enough to remember that

1763
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 3: when you hear that word, you think, oh, that's pretty

1764
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 3: you know, respected military publication. But the PNG government has said, no,

1765
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 3: it's not true. Richard Marles, the Defense Minister, has been

1766
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 3: quick to say, oh, I spoke to my mates in

1767
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 3: and Gene It's not going to happen. There's something there.

1768
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:29,719
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't Jane stuff up. I mean, seriously,

1769
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 3: they are not going to make that up. So Peter Dutton,

1770
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 3: I think unwisely quickly jumped on it and said, oh see,

1771
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 3: labor can't defend the country. I think you'll regret doing

1772
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 3: that so quickly. But will establishing a rugby league team

1773
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:50,679
Speaker 3: in New Guinea stop us from having Russians on our border? Maybe?

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01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 2: Now we'll see. I thought of you the other day

1776
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 2: when we last talked. You're on you out of the

1777
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 2: golf club to watch that the final of the Master.

1778
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 2: I mean, how good did that turn out to be?

1779
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 17: It did?

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01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 3: But did you see the Bryson Deschambeau interview yesterday where

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01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 3: he was asked how it went down on the course

1782
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 3: and said, oh, I do do you? I I played

1783
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 3: golf a lot, and I know you like golf. Who

1784
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 3: goes to to golf in even if it's in a

1785
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 3: competition to win the Masters and don't speak at all

1786
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 3: to the person you're playing with. I mean I usually

1787
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 3: spend the eighteen hole sledging the people I'm playing to

1788
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 3: make them play worse. Why would you be silent?

1789
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Speaker 2: So all mat go well, have a happy inter and

1790
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 2: we'll see you next week. Steve Price, out of Australia

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Speaker 2: eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

1793
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 1: Bay News talks.

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Speaker 2: At be Here We Go, Mike, I played golf at

1795
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,600
Speaker 2: a high local level, very common not to talk to

1796
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:48,560
Speaker 2: your opponent and play in your own bubble. There's no

1797
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 2: offense intended to take it. That's my interpretation. I haven't

1798
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 2: played golf for many, many years, but when I used to,

1799
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 2: I because you know, we were hackers. We always played

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Speaker 2: with friends and there was a bit of a chat,

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01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 2: but there would be long periods where you're concentrating on

1802
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 2: what you're trying to do and it's not really about

1803
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 2: that anyway. He's got a sports Macro's got a sports

1804
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 2: psychologist called Rotteller, Bob Ratteller. He's been on the radio

1805
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 2: and Britain saying the decision didn't have anything to do

1806
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 2: with de Chambeau, and I don't think anyone suggests it did.

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01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 2: That was just the game we played all week. We

1808
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 2: wanted to get lost in it. We didn't want to

1809
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,679
Speaker 2: pay attention to what anyone else was scoring or shooting,

1810
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 2: or swinging, or how far they were hitting it. We

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01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 2: just wanted Rory to plays game. The point is, if

1812
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 2: you believe you're going to win, just play your game

1813
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 2: and assume that if you do that anywhere near the

1814
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 2: way you're capable of, you will end up number one.

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01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 2: It's just you and the golf course and your caddy.

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01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 2: I completely understand that. Speaking of sport, the Navy football

1817
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 2: team won the Commander in Chiefs Trophy, and when you

1818
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 2: win prizes in America, what you tend to do is

1819
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 2: get invited to the White House. So the Navy football

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01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 2: team are there today with the Big Don.

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Speaker 5: I shouldn't say this too loud because some people aren't thrilled,

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01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 5: But I'm thrilled. We have the largest budget we've ever had.

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01:24:56,479 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 5: We're buying gorgeous new ships, gorgeous new and John to

1824
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 5: be working on that. He's a great John Phelan's a

1825
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 5: great businessman, one of the best. And you're gonna get

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01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 5: that job done. And we're gonna make them beautiful looking

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01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 5: ships too. The look is very important to me. John.

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Speaker 5: You know a lot of times they'll show me a

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01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,799
Speaker 5: ship or a plane and they I say that doesn't

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01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,600
Speaker 5: look good. They say, well, it's stealth. I said, I

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01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 5: don't care if it's stealth or not. We're gonna change

1832
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 5: if we have to. I'm not sure I believe so

1833
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 5: much in the stealth thing. But we want the most

1834
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 5: beautiful equipment, the best equipment. That's what we're gonna get.

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01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 5: And you're gonna lead the way, and I'll help you too,

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01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 5: because I like doing that stuff. And we're going to

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01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 5: get a lot of ships, a lot of planes.

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Speaker 2: And of course that's got nothing to do with football

1839
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 2: at all. But the team just stands there and listens

1840
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 2: to that. Can I just quickly give you the numbers, Actually,

1841
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 2: I'll do it after. I'll give you the numbers on

1842
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 2: these reports and tell you how well the the world

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01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 2: is doing aviationally at the moment. Nine minutes away from none.

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01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 1: The mic Husking breakfast with the range Rover, the Law

1845
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: News talks tad B.

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01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 2: Speaking of Trump Mitsubishiava night. They became the first Japanese

1847
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 2: car company to stop shipping cars to America. They joined Volkswagen, Audi,

1848
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 2: Lotus and Jaguar Landrover So that number is growing. Eventually

1849
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 2: there's going to be no no one left. But if

1850
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 2: one fifties and rams, it's a car yad. So the

1851
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,560
Speaker 2: busiest airport's in the world ten through one. Shanghai is

1852
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 2: number ten, seventy six and a bit million passengers. They're

1853
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 2: up forty one percent, so don't tell me. Tourism is booming.

1854
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 2: New Delhi seventy seven million, up seven point eight percent.

1855
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 2: Ohair Chicago, that's up as well as Stanbul number seven,

1856
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 2: Denver at eighty two million, London eighty three million passengers

1857
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 2: a year up six percent, Tokyo up nine percent, Dallas

1858
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 2: Fort Worth up seven percent, Dubai ninety two million people

1859
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 2: go through to buy every year, up six percent. So

1860
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 2: the world is traveling. They're paying big money and they

1861
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 2: are traveling and they are loving it. The busiest airport

1862
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 2: in the world is Hartsfield Jackson Atlanta one hundred and

1863
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 2: eight million passengers, up three point three percent.

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Speaker 9: Week.

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01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 2: Poor old New Zealand still stuck sadly on eighty five percent.

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01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 2: Have you got before we in the show, Andy, you

1867
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:03,600
Speaker 2: got some more of that?

1868
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 3: Morgan.

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01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 2: I'm just doing this out loud because obviously you haven't

1870
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 2: saved you can just get the record out, so we'll

1871
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 2: have it by the end of the program. That'll be

1872
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 2: good because meantime at five minutes away from.

1873
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: Nine trending now with the Chemist Warehouse book in your

1874
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 1: Flu Vaccination Today.

1875
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 2: So Braves Blues or the Blue Jays, the Braves Blue

1876
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 2: Jaysu's Baseball MLIB Braves one eight four. So is that

1877
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 2: an exciting game? Well, let's find out there's something more

1878
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 2: interesting off the field that was going viral. Here's your

1879
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:33,799
Speaker 2: local Braves reporter Wiley Ballard Wiley.

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01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 26: How are things up there at the Corona Rooftop. Thanks

1881
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 26: are pretty great brand. We're having a lot of fun

1882
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 26: off here off the Corona Rooftop. Who do we got

1883
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 26: you wish?

1884
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 8: Your name?

1885
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 26: My name is Lauren Laurence, all right, and I'm Keayla Taylor.

1886
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:46,839
Speaker 26: And you guys hang out the rooftop lounge.

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01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 20: Often once a year I come out to visit.

1888
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:51,600
Speaker 26: Okay, Well we timed it pretty.

1889
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 2: Well right, So they went back to them for some more.

1890
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 26: Okay, Walley, we got five innings, four innings to get

1891
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 26: the numbers. Come on, come on, get us some more

1892
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 26: Brace fans. All right, So they want me to get

1893
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 26: your number I'm dead serious. They're saying, to my right,

1894
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 26: I shouldn't believe me because she thinks you guys are

1895
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 26: are not making this up. Even if you guys weren't,

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01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 26: I might use that in the future. That's a that's

1897
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 26: a pretty good move. This is unbelievable. So the best

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01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 26: part of this right now is that while they could

1899
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 26: totally be faking, and this might be the new move

1900
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 26: you just walk around with a fan duel microphone and

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01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 26: an earpiece in and convince fans that they're actually on TV.

1902
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 26: I should have thought of this years ago. I am speechless.

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01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 26: I got the number. We're good.

1904
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 2: So do you think that's going in front of some

1905
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 2: sort of broadcasting commission or something like that? Wild ballard?

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01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 9: Listen to this.

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01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 2: This is just isn't this? Briolled? Andy? Andy? I introduced Andy.

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01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 2: I should tell you because Jason and see, I need

1909
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 2: to introduce everyone who works on the show. Andy's what

1910
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 2: is Andy? Andy's the technical guy's filling in for Glenn.

1911
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 2: Glenn's a person who's been worked here for a long

1912
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 2: time and he's on holiday. And so we got Andy.

1913
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,719
Speaker 2: And what's your name again? Sammy?

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01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 3: Sam?

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01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 2: And this is Morgan. Now I'm Mike Happy Days and

1916
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 2: I do it every night.

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01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 9: But no, don't change.

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01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 3: Scared.

1919
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 24: I'm a little bit of crazy.

1920
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 9: What the world is saying.

1921
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 24: Oh, I'm a little little crazy what the world is saying.

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01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

1923
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow

1924
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Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.