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Speaker 2: Hello you going to New Zealanders And welcome to Matt

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Speaker 2: and Tyler Full Show Podcast number one seventy one four

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Speaker 2: the twenty ninth of July and the Year of Our

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Speaker 2: Lord twenty twenty five. Fantastic chat today and look at

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Speaker 2: rop Michael Hill jeweler.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very sad, shocking news and a fantastic story on

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Speaker 3: Sir Michael a little bit later on the show that

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. Welcome into Tuesday Show the

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Speaker 3: twenty ninth of July. I hope you are doing fantastic

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Speaker 3: where if you're listening in the country, get a mess

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Speaker 3: get a.

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Speaker 2: Thailand and you've moved up to Auckland from christ and

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Speaker 2: look it's a nationwide thing. But you were about to

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Speaker 2: go to the Night of Nights. Yes, something you've never

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Speaker 2: been before.

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Speaker 3: Very very excited, the Bakeel.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Supreme Pie Awards. And I think it says

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Speaker 2: a lot of good stuff about our country that our

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Speaker 2: flashest awards, our oscars is celebrating pies and not something pretentious.

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Speaker 3: Exactly. It's a huge night, a huge event on the

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Speaker 3: social calendar for Auckland, not just Auckland, New Zealand. It's

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Speaker 3: a seventies dress up theme, so I'm still undecided whether

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Speaker 3: I go full noise dressed up or just looking a

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Speaker 3: bit tidy with a suit.

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Speaker 2: But that's up to you. I can't. You know they're

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Speaker 2: not going to kick you out for not following the theme.

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Speaker 3: I hope not.

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Speaker 2: You'll be all right, but you know, everyone is always

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Speaker 2: it's more fun if you put an effort in, I

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Speaker 2: would say, But yeah, the awards is just so flash

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Speaker 2: it blew my mind when I first went there. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I failed to RSVP, so I don't have tickets to

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Speaker 2: night so I'm not going. Yeah, so I just I'm

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Speaker 2: terrible at at rsvping, so so I'm not going, which

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Speaker 2: was disappointing because it's the first year I haven't gone

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Speaker 2: in about ten or fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: I will eat enough pies for both of us, don't

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Speaker 3: worry about and I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: That's what you don't understand, Tyler. See, you're an absolute

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Speaker 2: nube to this because it is the people that make

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Speaker 2: the pies that have been flowing up here. The last

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Speaker 2: thing they want for the meal is pies.

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Speaker 3: So you get served a delicious meal, so there might

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Speaker 3: be a nice piece of salmon instead of a pie. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: because you know you're getting up at four am to

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Speaker 2: For the rest of the year. When you're flying up

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Speaker 2: to celebrate the industry, the last thing you want is

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Speaker 2: And yeah, it's absolutely fantastic at fantastic night. And you

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Speaker 2: know the advancements and pies in our country over the

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Speaker 2: a lot of awards ceremonies these days are riddled with

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Speaker 3: So geez, I'm excited now and.

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Speaker 2: I'm ruling my lack of RSVP.

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Speaker 2: So honestly, I didn't notice, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: that's what it is. It's eating right and it's exercising.

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Speaker 2: There's no quick solution unless you're going to be one

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I reckon there might be a bit of a shortcut.

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Speaker 3: to that after two o'clock. Do we need to break

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Speaker 3: up with our love of property? Jeremy Williamson, here's the

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Speaker 3: head of Private Wealth and Markets at Craig's Investment Partners,

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Speaker 3: will be chatting with him during that hour. But he

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, just some breaking news here. Michael Hill, jeweler

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Speaker 3: Wow, that is big news. That is said Sir Michael Hill.

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Speaker 2: Duwela a huge part of everyone's life from mass and

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Speaker 3: So an icon of New Zealand, Michael Hill has passed away.

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Speaker 3: That is some very sad news.

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Speaker 2: A violinists, a golfer and an a jeweler.

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Speaker 3: And a hell of a story when his house burnt

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Speaker 3: down he lost everything to create that business. There will

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Speaker 3: So you were saying, Tyler, So after two o'clock our

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Speaker 3: of Craig's investment partners. He says, yes, we do need

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Speaker 3: the country. And after one o'clock actually right now. An

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Speaker 3: his name is Liam Jackson. He says, who have to

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Speaker 3: expand paid parking to the city center fringe. That's over

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Speaker 3: two thousand bucks a year, he says, just to park

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Speaker 3: outside my house. That seems crazy. So the council Totong

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Speaker 3: this is a big one, big one for people around

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Speaker 3: the country. Resident car parking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my opinion, it's a basic that you should be

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Speaker 2: if you live in the CBD, was it any different

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Speaker 2: you pay, pay your rates at least from five pm

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Speaker 2: to nine am. And you know, mahe Dreistow's saying two

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Speaker 2: too many, you know, basic and lock my opinion, all

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Speaker 2: parking fees a theft. You know, we own the streets.

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Speaker 2: The council doesn't. So all parking fees a theft. Maybe

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Speaker 2: parking fines are okay, but all parking parking parking fees

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Speaker 3: Yep I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty Are you

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Speaker 3: up though, we are going to chat to Liam Jackson himself.

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Speaker 3: We've got ahold of him and we're going to get

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Speaker 3: the full story about what he's dealing with with his

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Speaker 3: thirteen past one. Your listener, Matton Tyler The.

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

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Speaker 1: This is a News Talk sat B developing story.

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Speaker 3: So, as we've mentioned, jewelry pioneer Sir Michael Hill has died.

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Speaker 3: The eighty six year old founded and grew Michael Hill

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Speaker 3: Jewelers from humble beginnings and fungoday to become a global

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Speaker 3: So sad news. Who's just repeating that and developing news

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Speaker 2: Yeah, loomed large, didn't he? You have over my childhood

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Speaker 2: Fantastic golf course in Queenstown.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so as iconic, iconic, very Michael Hill jeweler.

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Speaker 3: It was very well done. Be shocking news for a

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Speaker 3: have been talking about residential parking permits and parking outside

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Speaker 3: Liam Jackson has hit back at what he has expected

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Speaker 3: very good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 4: Good to you too.

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Speaker 2: So you have been up until this point been able

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I've only just moved into the to the property

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Speaker 4: It's an interesting CBD, quite quite hard to park in

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Speaker 4: out that the parking range is going to be increased

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Speaker 4: and including my road, which is fantastic. And originally when

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Speaker 4: I inquired the council, they said, yep, no problem, we'll

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Speaker 4: be having resident parking permits there for you. Perfect, I thought,

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Speaker 4: And then then I wake up one day to see

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Speaker 4: that that's been by the council and so yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: your your calculations are pretty stark. But that's that's what

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Speaker 4: I would also have woke out to about two thousand

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Speaker 4: dollars a year, fifty dollars a week just to pack

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Speaker 2: And Liam, what kind of residents are you living? And

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Speaker 2: if you don't mind be asking.

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Speaker 4: They can then spend the money with it inside you know,

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Speaker 2: What would a fair solution look like to you? Are

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not? You know, I as you can as your

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Speaker 4: I think having the option of having a certificantly that

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Speaker 2: As because these these two things, isn't there there is

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Speaker 2: So are you looking for a situation where you're guaranteed

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Speaker 3: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty Are you owed a

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Speaker 3: Twenty eight past one. Are you owed three car parking?

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Speaker 3: As a resident of one hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 2: Pull your thoughts on this?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Look, I've I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I

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Speaker 8: Councils want cars out of the central city, and I

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Speaker 8: would say as far as Carnell Grayland they don't want cars.

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Speaker 8: They want you to walk and bus so and train.

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Speaker 8: But what they do is they think, okay, how to

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Speaker 8: But what they do is shock an or. So they say, right,

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Speaker 8: two thousand dollars to park your car, like the glass

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Speaker 8: there'll be a riot. The last minute. They'll go, you

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Speaker 8: know what, five hundred dollars a year, and they go, oh,

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Speaker 8: it up. But if you were to say five hundred

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Speaker 8: straight away people would be in the streets. So it's

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Speaker 8: quite clever the way they do it. After the world

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Speaker 2: I don't want term.

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Speaker 2: Are you finish? Sorry?

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Speaker 2: that they do believe in push politics, that they that

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Speaker 8: So we we've got a business in Parnell and we

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Speaker 8: They said no, it's going to be a loading zone.

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Speaker 8: Bang within a week it was. And when we said

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Speaker 8: It's down the hill.

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Speaker 2: So that's the problem that people have because they've got

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Speaker 2: And you know, we're not we're in these like you

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Speaker 2: they see Amsterdam and they come back here and say,

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Speaker 2: why can't we be like that? It's because we're not

437
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Speaker 2: like that. And so what happens is that businesses just

438
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Speaker 2: go out of business and they continue to believe in

439
00:20:52,933 --> 00:20:56,093
Speaker 2: their ideology and they get proven wrong on over and

440
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Speaker 2: every again, and they move on to the next thing.

441
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Speaker 2: That's what happens.

442
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Speaker 8: That's true, So yeah, what can we do the mound?

443
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Speaker 3: I suppose, Paul, and I know that's always the case

444
00:21:04,973 --> 00:21:07,213
Speaker 3: every three years, but there's got to be some pushback.

445
00:21:07,253 --> 00:21:10,253
Speaker 3: It is patronizing. It is patronizing to hear this sort

446
00:21:10,253 --> 00:21:12,573
Speaker 3: of stuff from the councilors. And it's not just the counselors.

447
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of the time it's the staff

448
00:21:14,173 --> 00:21:16,773
Speaker 3: within the council. They've been there for donkeys years. They

449
00:21:16,813 --> 00:21:19,733
Speaker 3: think it's the tail wagging the dog and they call

450
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Speaker 3: the shots. And I know I've talked to counselors and

451
00:21:21,653 --> 00:21:24,653
Speaker 3: it does their heading that these upstart numpties and the

452
00:21:24,733 --> 00:21:27,453
Speaker 3: staff within the council have these ideologies and they try

453
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Speaker 3: and push back and they get you know done, They

454
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Speaker 3: go behind their backs to get these things across the line.

455
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think part of the problem as well,

456
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Speaker 2: you know, like maybe it's the people in the deep

457
00:21:37,853 --> 00:21:41,733
Speaker 2: state that Tyler's talking about there, but it's also people

458
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Speaker 2: could go through and look at what individual counselors are

459
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Speaker 2: voting for and if your counselor is safe. For example,

460
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Speaker 2: you know when they say thirty kilometers an hour, right,

461
00:21:49,533 --> 00:21:51,893
Speaker 2: this is my bugbear. They say it's for safety, but

462
00:21:51,933 --> 00:21:54,733
Speaker 2: it is just to choke the living life out of

463
00:21:54,733 --> 00:21:58,253
Speaker 2: people in casts. It's really where we're at. So if

464
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Speaker 2: you take people take the time to look at what

465
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Speaker 2: councilors in their individual area have supported what things, and

466
00:22:05,573 --> 00:22:07,893
Speaker 2: if you see that they've got an agenda that's against yours,

467
00:22:07,973 --> 00:22:10,292
Speaker 2: then you've got a vote against them. But you know,

468
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Speaker 2: will that change everything anything? I don't know. Not when

469
00:22:13,213 --> 00:22:17,333
Speaker 2: people are only thirty percent of people are viting. Yeah, exactly, Yeah,

470
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Speaker 2: I thank if.

471
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Speaker 3: You called Paul, Yeah, great call. Do you agree with Paul? Oh,

472
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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Are you owed free

473
00:22:22,933 --> 00:22:25,773
Speaker 3: car parking as a resident? That's the discussion we're having.

474
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Speaker 3: Coming up very good text here having a massive crack

475
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Speaker 3: at developers. We'll get to that very shortly. It is

476
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Speaker 3: twenty eight to two US talk.

477
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Speaker 11: Said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's no trouble

478
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Speaker 11: with a blue bubble. Pioneer jeweler Sir Michael Hill has died.

479
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Speaker 11: He was eighty six. He stepped back from business in

480
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Speaker 11: April for cancer treatment. His chain of stores grew from

481
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Speaker 11: humble Beginnings and Fargada to become a global brand through Australia,

482
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Speaker 11: New Zealand and Canada. The governments raised the fees for

483
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Speaker 11: public sector board members in some cases by eighty percent,

484
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Speaker 11: saying it's to match the private sector and attract better people.

485
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Speaker 11: Heady for our nursing strike looks to be going ahead

486
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Speaker 11: tomorrow after the union's rejected a payoffer over safety and

487
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Speaker 11: staffing concerns. Life preserving services will be maintained. Police are

488
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Speaker 11: asking for sightings a fifty five year old at Michael

489
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Speaker 11: Terence Moses in Faraday, but say he shouldn't be approached.

490
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Speaker 11: A gunman armed with a rifle has killed four people,

491
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Speaker 11: including a police officer, in central New York and is

492
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Speaker 11: himself dead after a shooting at a Park Avenue office building.

493
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Speaker 11: Chaotic or collaborative where schools stand on open planned classrooms.

494
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Speaker 11: You can read more at Zendherral Premium. Now back to

495
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Speaker 11: matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lean, Are you owed free

497
00:23:51,173 --> 00:23:55,053
Speaker 3: parking as a resident? It's kicking off in Toroonga Auckland

498
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Speaker 3: around the country. Can you get your views on oh

499
00:23:56,973 --> 00:23:58,493
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: You should be able to park in the streets as texture,

501
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Speaker 2: especially if a councilor giving consent for buildings to be

502
00:24:03,333 --> 00:24:06,333
Speaker 2: constructed with single to no parks. It's absurd. They think

503
00:24:06,373 --> 00:24:09,013
Speaker 2: everyone bukes everywhere around the city on the new cycle

504
00:24:09,093 --> 00:24:12,733
Speaker 2: lanes which have cost an absolute fortune and taken parking

505
00:24:12,773 --> 00:24:15,973
Speaker 2: from parking from businesses and residents alike, and quite frankly

506
00:24:16,013 --> 00:24:18,253
Speaker 2: aren't being used at all. I think we need to

507
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Speaker 2: hire a common sense manager for counsel.

508
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Speaker 3: Some good points in that text.

509
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Barbara, you live in the inner Auckland's Mountain, and

510
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Speaker 2: I believe, yes, that's right.

511
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Speaker 12: We have to if we want to park on the street,

512
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Speaker 12: just buy a residence parking ticket, you know, approve we're

513
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Speaker 12: a resident online and you can also get a day

514
00:24:42,213 --> 00:24:45,253
Speaker 12: you know, a friend parking ticket for park on the

515
00:24:45,253 --> 00:24:48,653
Speaker 12: street seventy bucks a year. And I think the reason

516
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Speaker 12: is to stop people who might use this street for shopping,

517
00:24:54,133 --> 00:24:58,053
Speaker 12: you know, or going out to It's only during the day,

518
00:24:58,373 --> 00:25:01,653
Speaker 12: it's not at night, and so that's seventy dollars for

519
00:25:01,693 --> 00:25:02,973
Speaker 12: the year. That's not too bad.

520
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Speaker 2: What happens if you don't if you don't have if

521
00:25:05,333 --> 00:25:08,813
Speaker 2: you don't have the resident parking permit, you get towed.

522
00:25:08,933 --> 00:25:10,133
Speaker 2: Is that does that help? Works?

523
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Speaker 12: Well, I don't know that you get towed, but you

524
00:25:13,413 --> 00:25:18,173
Speaker 12: certainly get fined, right See, I go a little Aukland,

525
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Speaker 12: you know, little band in the car, an awkward guy

526
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Speaker 12: who goes around these kind of streets.

527
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Speaker 3: I think that's a great thing, Barbara. But sorry, you

528
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Speaker 3: carry on, you carry on.

529
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Speaker 12: No, I'm just saying, so that's, you know, up from

530
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Speaker 12: Mount Eden and towards Auckland, up from the stadium and

531
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Speaker 12: towards Auckland.

532
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Speaker 3: That's that's important. But the but where I think this

533
00:25:40,733 --> 00:25:43,053
Speaker 3: starts to fall apart with a resident permit is how

534
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Speaker 3: how many do you give out and who do you

535
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Speaker 3: give them to? And I say that not to have

536
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Speaker 3: a go at the residents, but I think developers have

537
00:25:49,173 --> 00:25:51,493
Speaker 3: a bit too to answer for here. When they're building

538
00:25:51,853 --> 00:25:54,653
Speaker 3: high rise, multi unit developments with no car parks. What

539
00:25:54,693 --> 00:25:56,853
Speaker 3: does that mean for people like yourself that have probably

540
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Speaker 3: been there for some time and then your street gets

541
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Speaker 3: invaded with everybody who needs a free car park from

542
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Speaker 3: the council.

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Speaker 12: Well, that's something als altogether, I should have Readgine. The

544
00:26:06,893 --> 00:26:09,773
Speaker 12: council just gives it to that, it goes to the

545
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Speaker 12: I think it goes to the number of the street.

546
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Speaker 12: So if there's four or if there's forty, I think

547
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Speaker 12: they already get that many car parks.

548
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Speaker 3: Yeah, which makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I mean, look,

549
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Speaker 3: I'm glad it's working out for you, Barbara, but yeah,

550
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Speaker 3: as I say, I do worry that some of these

551
00:26:26,653 --> 00:26:28,013
Speaker 3: resident party are parking.

552
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Speaker 12: Sorry you go, No, I just think caw On is

553
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Speaker 12: just stupid that what they're talking about.

554
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, thank you for your call. Yeah, it's

555
00:26:38,373 --> 00:26:41,893
Speaker 2: an interesting one though, but I think essentially what you know,

556
00:26:41,933 --> 00:26:45,133
Speaker 2: a previous caller was saying is there's a belief that

557
00:26:45,213 --> 00:26:48,532
Speaker 2: people should just get around without cars. So when you

558
00:26:48,693 --> 00:26:50,973
Speaker 2: push back and say we've got two cars here, we

559
00:26:51,013 --> 00:26:52,573
Speaker 2: want to be able to park here, or we want it.

560
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Speaker 2: They don't want it to be convenient for cars. They

561
00:26:55,013 --> 00:26:58,773
Speaker 2: have this dream that everyone will cycle around and bust

562
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Speaker 2: around and use their public transport and everyone will be

563
00:27:02,053 --> 00:27:04,572
Speaker 2: just happy, like those little drawings that you get made up,

564
00:27:04,813 --> 00:27:07,653
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, and you have those drawings, anyone's walking

565
00:27:07,653 --> 00:27:11,693
Speaker 2: around happily on bikes and walking around smiles on their faces,

566
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Speaker 2: and it's this beautiful futurist city from the Osborne Book

567
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Speaker 2: of the Future.

568
00:27:15,413 --> 00:27:16,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's.

569
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Speaker 2: Just not really the way things work out. We're not Copenhagen,

570
00:27:19,773 --> 00:27:22,573
Speaker 2: but say, for in most so, if you build something,

571
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Speaker 2: let's say in tod Onna, if you build an apartment building,

572
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Speaker 2: or if you build a you know, a group of

573
00:27:31,973 --> 00:27:34,853
Speaker 2: houses or whatever, you call that a development, do you

574
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Speaker 2: have to provide the parks? What's the what are the

575
00:27:36,893 --> 00:27:37,693
Speaker 2: laws around that?

576
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Speaker 3: That's a good question. I mean, look, I know in

577
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Speaker 3: christ Church, and christ Church hasn't typically been an area

578
00:27:43,293 --> 00:27:46,613
Speaker 3: where you needed to hustle for a car park. There

579
00:27:46,653 --> 00:27:48,373
Speaker 3: was a lot of car parking available. But there is

580
00:27:48,413 --> 00:27:50,373
Speaker 3: a lot of pushback for some of these new development

581
00:27:50,373 --> 00:27:54,013
Speaker 3: companies that are creating these new homes and new developments

582
00:27:54,013 --> 00:27:55,813
Speaker 3: without car parks. And they're doing that for a very

583
00:27:55,813 --> 00:27:57,893
Speaker 3: crafty reason. They're doing that so then they can offer

584
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Speaker 3: these units at a more of a discount, and they

585
00:28:00,773 --> 00:28:03,213
Speaker 3: are relying on the council to provide the car park.

586
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Speaker 3: So what they are doing there is they're saying, you,

587
00:28:05,293 --> 00:28:07,532
Speaker 3: as a ratepayer, provide that car park for us. We

588
00:28:07,613 --> 00:28:10,052
Speaker 3: can offer that unit, it a better deal to anybody

589
00:28:10,053 --> 00:28:12,173
Speaker 3: who wants to buy, and we don't have to pay

590
00:28:12,493 --> 00:28:14,493
Speaker 3: for that car park. I mean, how was that fear?

591
00:28:14,533 --> 00:28:16,253
Speaker 3: How is that fear that the developer gets to do

592
00:28:16,293 --> 00:28:18,813
Speaker 3: that and relies on the council car parking to save

593
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Speaker 3: to make a bit of extra profit.

594
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't know this, Sick says, But boys,

595
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Speaker 2: I've heard there is no provision for car parking in

596
00:28:25,493 --> 00:28:28,813
Speaker 2: many of Auckland's urban subdivisions. Vehicles have to be parked

597
00:28:28,853 --> 00:28:32,093
Speaker 2: on grass berms if they are grass berms or blocks away.

598
00:28:32,453 --> 00:28:34,613
Speaker 2: We don't have this problem d needing provision as to

599
00:28:34,693 --> 00:28:38,253
Speaker 2: be made on new subdivisions for off street parking chairs.

600
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Speaker 3: Charlie, Yeah, good text.

601
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm amazing the amount of people around my

602
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Speaker 2: area that park on berms, like the berms are just

603
00:28:44,093 --> 00:28:47,973
Speaker 2: covered in cars. Yeah, in some areas. And I've heard,

604
00:28:48,173 --> 00:28:50,573
Speaker 2: and someone could correct me on this, is that that's

605
00:28:50,653 --> 00:28:54,413
Speaker 2: not parking enforcement parking on burms. So you know, you

606
00:28:54,453 --> 00:28:56,773
Speaker 2: can park on a berm, but you're not part of

607
00:28:57,853 --> 00:28:59,813
Speaker 2: the parking enforcement by doing it.

608
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Speaker 3: It's a loophole. I love that.

609
00:29:01,133 --> 00:29:01,333
Speaker 9: Yeah.

610
00:29:01,453 --> 00:29:04,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's a loophole to the point where one

611
00:29:04,053 --> 00:29:06,133
Speaker 2: guy near my house can't get off as berm because

612
00:29:06,133 --> 00:29:09,333
Speaker 2: he's dug such a whole of hole. We're as back.

613
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Speaker 3: Tyris love it. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

614
00:29:11,853 --> 00:29:14,853
Speaker 3: the number to call? Are you owed free car parking

615
00:29:14,933 --> 00:29:17,893
Speaker 3: as a resident outside your house? Oh, one hundred eighty

616
00:29:17,893 --> 00:29:19,773
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number call. It's eighteen to two.

617
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Speaker 1: Matt Heath Tylor Adams taking your calls on. Oh, eight

618
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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heathen Tyler Adams

619
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Speaker 1: afternoons news Dogs.

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Speaker 3: They'd be very good afternoons. Due sixteen passed two. So

621
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Speaker 3: you asked the question before, Matt. Are developers required to

622
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Speaker 3: provide on site car parking in Auckland's They are not

623
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Speaker 3: required to provide on site car parking in new developments.

624
00:29:41,133 --> 00:29:43,893
Speaker 3: That was due to the removal of minimum parking requirements

625
00:29:43,893 --> 00:29:47,213
Speaker 3: in the Auckland Unitary Planet was voted on in February

626
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two.

627
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Speaker 2: So they're coming at you from two directions, aren't they.

628
00:29:50,453 --> 00:29:55,493
Speaker 2: So both they're not allowing, they're not making new developments

629
00:29:55,533 --> 00:29:57,093
Speaker 2: put the car parks in there at the same time

630
00:29:57,173 --> 00:29:58,533
Speaker 2: as they're charging you to be on the street. They

631
00:29:58,573 --> 00:30:00,373
Speaker 2: just take cars. Why do they just admit it? They

632
00:30:00,453 --> 00:30:02,613
Speaker 2: just go out and say, we are trying to make

633
00:30:02,613 --> 00:30:05,453
Speaker 2: it as hard as possible for you to be in cars,

634
00:30:05,493 --> 00:30:08,693
Speaker 2: because we believe in this utopian future of everyone's cycling

635
00:30:08,693 --> 00:30:10,693
Speaker 2: around with a smile on their face on a bike

636
00:30:10,773 --> 00:30:14,493
Speaker 2: with you know, a French bread stick in the basket

637
00:30:14,613 --> 00:30:18,733
Speaker 2: on your car, going to farmers' markets on the end

638
00:30:18,733 --> 00:30:23,173
Speaker 2: of every street. Tyler, you're incorrect. This is that that

639
00:30:23,173 --> 00:30:26,053
Speaker 2: that excited me by this text, So we'll go on. Please,

640
00:30:26,093 --> 00:30:29,493
Speaker 2: If developers can't provide enough car parks that council requires

641
00:30:29,533 --> 00:30:32,213
Speaker 2: for a particular project, the developer must pay the council,

642
00:30:32,293 --> 00:30:35,173
Speaker 2: whom are then supposed to put the money to alternative

643
00:30:35,493 --> 00:30:38,133
Speaker 2: parking areas. Where is that is that?

644
00:30:38,253 --> 00:30:38,493
Speaker 10: Is that?

645
00:30:38,773 --> 00:30:40,893
Speaker 2: Is that across the country? Is that an auckland because

646
00:30:40,893 --> 00:30:44,253
Speaker 2: it doesn't seem to say anything in what I'm looking

647
00:30:44,293 --> 00:30:46,453
Speaker 2: at here for auckland around that? Or is that toto on?

648
00:30:46,733 --> 00:30:48,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, Please let us know where you're texting from, because

649
00:30:48,853 --> 00:30:50,253
Speaker 3: it's different rules for different councils.

650
00:30:50,333 --> 00:30:52,693
Speaker 2: I think developers get a council fee discount if they

651
00:30:52,693 --> 00:30:55,133
Speaker 2: don't build in car parks, So the councilor are actually

652
00:30:55,173 --> 00:30:58,893
Speaker 2: paying developers not to provide car parks for ideological reasons.

653
00:30:59,213 --> 00:31:01,893
Speaker 2: Check that out, Sean, Well, that would be If that's true,

654
00:31:01,933 --> 00:31:05,773
Speaker 2: the plot thickens. If that's true, then we need to

655
00:31:05,813 --> 00:31:08,253
Speaker 2: have like fight for you drivers, fight for your right stickers,

656
00:31:08,373 --> 00:31:09,733
Speaker 2: bumper stickers, or something.

657
00:31:09,573 --> 00:31:10,773
Speaker 3: Like make cars great again.

658
00:31:10,933 --> 00:31:15,693
Speaker 2: Yeah drivers are evil Karen work with the show.

659
00:31:16,813 --> 00:31:19,213
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, Well I wanted to ask, was I might

660
00:31:19,253 --> 00:31:22,053
Speaker 13: say really stupid here, but what's the point of vaulting

661
00:31:22,133 --> 00:31:25,813
Speaker 13: if you've already tied up into a sea forty city internationally?

662
00:31:26,733 --> 00:31:27,453
Speaker 2: What can you say that?

663
00:31:27,573 --> 00:31:32,613
Speaker 13: Because then say you're tied into a sea forty city internationally,

664
00:31:32,813 --> 00:31:34,733
Speaker 13: you know you signed all than legal whatever it is

665
00:31:34,773 --> 00:31:36,053
Speaker 13: to be a sea forty city.

666
00:31:36,093 --> 00:31:39,493
Speaker 2: What'st Well, look.

667
00:31:39,333 --> 00:31:41,573
Speaker 13: It up everybody. I can't go into it now, but

668
00:31:41,693 --> 00:31:44,453
Speaker 13: carbon free, you know, and anyway, you know, it just

669
00:31:44,493 --> 00:31:46,333
Speaker 13: makes me wonder what is the point of voting if

670
00:31:46,373 --> 00:31:48,933
Speaker 13: you've already decided to sign up to that, like Wellington

671
00:31:48,973 --> 00:31:51,173
Speaker 13: hasn't that, you know, because they're going to follow that

672
00:31:51,213 --> 00:31:53,773
Speaker 13: agenda anyway, aren't they. Though it doesn't matter what you think.

673
00:31:55,373 --> 00:31:58,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does seem like there is an a gender

674
00:31:58,293 --> 00:32:00,293
Speaker 2: being followed in any Well.

675
00:32:00,133 --> 00:32:02,293
Speaker 13: It's a legal one because they must have signed a

676
00:32:02,333 --> 00:32:05,493
Speaker 13: contract or some legal document to sign up to internationally

677
00:32:05,493 --> 00:32:08,093
Speaker 13: with all the other cities like London and everything. So

678
00:32:08,693 --> 00:32:10,733
Speaker 13: what's the point of autun if that's their gender.

679
00:32:10,773 --> 00:32:11,253
Speaker 14: The gone down.

680
00:32:11,373 --> 00:32:13,813
Speaker 2: That's all I was going to say, thank you, Yeah, cool, Karen.

681
00:32:13,853 --> 00:32:16,493
Speaker 2: But I think I think they have decided that from

682
00:32:16,573 --> 00:32:20,253
Speaker 2: a base that cars are bad. Less cars are better.

683
00:32:20,733 --> 00:32:23,893
Speaker 2: So anything they do to make it harder to have people,

684
00:32:24,893 --> 00:32:27,973
Speaker 2: you know, driving around in cars. Whether that's right or wrong,

685
00:32:28,893 --> 00:32:31,213
Speaker 2: who knows, but it feels like they've made that decision

686
00:32:31,293 --> 00:32:34,173
Speaker 2: right absolutely, that cars are bad. That's that's a that's

687
00:32:34,213 --> 00:32:37,453
Speaker 2: a that's a born sin driving a car. They're evil.

688
00:32:37,573 --> 00:32:40,493
Speaker 2: And everything we can to do to make it harder

689
00:32:40,533 --> 00:32:43,493
Speaker 2: and make the life difficult of people driving cars is

690
00:32:44,253 --> 00:32:46,253
Speaker 2: good for whatever a gender they see down the road.

691
00:32:46,333 --> 00:32:48,133
Speaker 2: The Osborne Book of the Future that they that they

692
00:32:48,213 --> 00:32:49,013
Speaker 2: grew up looking at.

693
00:32:49,173 --> 00:32:49,453
Speaker 4: Yeah.

694
00:32:49,533 --> 00:32:51,813
Speaker 3: But to Karen's point, can you change that? I still

695
00:32:51,853 --> 00:32:53,933
Speaker 3: believe that you can. And as you mentioned before, with

696
00:32:54,053 --> 00:32:57,053
Speaker 3: counselors and I would I would agree that a counselors

697
00:32:57,133 --> 00:32:58,893
Speaker 3: think they have more power than they actually do, and

698
00:32:58,893 --> 00:33:01,853
Speaker 3: there's people behind the scenes and stuff that try and

699
00:33:02,013 --> 00:33:05,693
Speaker 3: control things behind their back. No doubt that happens. I'm

700
00:33:05,693 --> 00:33:07,533
Speaker 3: not going to name names here, maybe I will at

701
00:33:07,533 --> 00:33:10,373
Speaker 3: some stage, but as you said before, you can go

702
00:33:10,413 --> 00:33:12,533
Speaker 3: through line by line when it comes to big votes

703
00:33:12,573 --> 00:33:16,853
Speaker 3: on things like cycle ways or charging people in Mount

704
00:33:17,013 --> 00:33:19,213
Speaker 3: Eden to park on on on street parking. You can

705
00:33:19,253 --> 00:33:21,413
Speaker 3: go through and see the councilors that vote for those

706
00:33:21,453 --> 00:33:23,653
Speaker 3: sort of things, and at the election you can say

707
00:33:23,693 --> 00:33:26,133
Speaker 3: I'm sick of this ideology. You're going see your ladder.

708
00:33:26,413 --> 00:33:30,373
Speaker 2: Yeah you can, but will you pete you say there's

709
00:33:30,413 --> 00:33:33,493
Speaker 2: a hypocrisy at playing.

710
00:33:35,413 --> 00:33:37,773
Speaker 15: Yeah, I reckon, That's what I said it's doing. At

711
00:33:37,773 --> 00:33:40,213
Speaker 15: the end, it will still counsel. They sort of probably

712
00:33:40,253 --> 00:33:42,213
Speaker 15: starting to linking it all around in the cities in

713
00:33:42,253 --> 00:33:45,093
Speaker 15: New Zealand. But I reckon it's wrong the council. What

714
00:33:45,133 --> 00:33:48,813
Speaker 15: they should be doing all development of new developments are

715
00:33:48,853 --> 00:33:50,613
Speaker 15: like that apartments or whatever they should be in the

716
00:33:50,653 --> 00:33:57,693
Speaker 15: contract is that this is a non parking flat or apartment.

717
00:33:58,173 --> 00:34:00,653
Speaker 15: So basically, yeah, and if they find out they do

718
00:34:00,813 --> 00:34:04,453
Speaker 15: actually own a vehicle and they park it up someone

719
00:34:04,493 --> 00:34:08,573
Speaker 15: else's drive or on the someone else's grass vergil on ever,

720
00:34:09,053 --> 00:34:11,573
Speaker 15: and they find out and that's why they could make money,

721
00:34:11,692 --> 00:34:15,093
Speaker 15: is they charge that it's a breach of contract of

722
00:34:15,133 --> 00:34:18,733
Speaker 15: that of of that development of that new project, and

723
00:34:18,733 --> 00:34:20,652
Speaker 15: then they then that's they can get five hundred dollars

724
00:34:20,693 --> 00:34:22,652
Speaker 15: or thousands of that piers because you actually breach the

725
00:34:22,653 --> 00:34:25,973
Speaker 15: contract of your apartment. There's ways of getting money from

726
00:34:25,973 --> 00:34:28,692
Speaker 15: the council. They think the guys who have been living

727
00:34:28,733 --> 00:34:31,133
Speaker 15: in the area for so long, they want to encourage

728
00:34:31,133 --> 00:34:34,213
Speaker 15: people to live in the cities. And they've got a

729
00:34:34,293 --> 00:34:38,692
Speaker 15: house that does have a grass edge where they can

730
00:34:38,733 --> 00:34:41,013
Speaker 15: park their car or let them be you know, just

731
00:34:41,053 --> 00:34:43,613
Speaker 15: another like you guys said, it is pretty much they

732
00:34:43,613 --> 00:34:45,772
Speaker 15: want you to push people out of cars, and that's

733
00:34:45,773 --> 00:34:48,693
Speaker 15: what the plan is. So you're you're going to realize

734
00:34:48,693 --> 00:34:52,732
Speaker 15: there's a new local election this year. All those ones

735
00:34:52,773 --> 00:34:54,893
Speaker 15: that are voting for them, there's the writings on the wall,

736
00:34:55,053 --> 00:34:56,813
Speaker 15: Get rid of them, get the fire hose, and get

737
00:34:56,853 --> 00:34:57,453
Speaker 15: the new counsel.

738
00:34:58,013 --> 00:35:00,413
Speaker 3: Yeah you fat, Yeah, I mean I think that's the point.

739
00:35:00,493 --> 00:35:03,493
Speaker 3: So it's if you go, this is a logical what's

740
00:35:03,533 --> 00:35:05,813
Speaker 3: going on. This is making things so difficult. You've got

741
00:35:05,853 --> 00:35:07,133
Speaker 3: to understand that. That's the point.

742
00:35:07,293 --> 00:35:09,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, Whether your I think that's right or wrong. If

743
00:35:09,453 --> 00:35:11,013
Speaker 2: you think cars are evil and then we should make

744
00:35:11,013 --> 00:35:12,733
Speaker 2: it as hard as possible to be in cars is

745
00:35:12,773 --> 00:35:15,093
Speaker 2: a different issue. That's a decision. You can you know,

746
00:35:15,133 --> 00:35:16,853
Speaker 2: you decide whether you sit where you sit on that.

747
00:35:17,213 --> 00:35:18,893
Speaker 2: But when you're thinking about why is all this stuff

748
00:35:18,933 --> 00:35:21,252
Speaker 2: not making any sense, it's just a disasters. It's making

749
00:35:21,293 --> 00:35:23,053
Speaker 2: things so difficult for me in my cart. So you've

750
00:35:23,053 --> 00:35:24,373
Speaker 2: got to understand that they are trying to make it

751
00:35:24,373 --> 00:35:25,933
Speaker 2: difficult for you in a car percent.

752
00:35:26,053 --> 00:35:27,973
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to call.

753
00:35:28,053 --> 00:35:30,732
Speaker 3: Are you owed free car parking as a resident by

754
00:35:30,733 --> 00:35:32,453
Speaker 3: the council? It is ten to two.

755
00:35:33,893 --> 00:35:37,133
Speaker 1: Matd Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight

756
00:35:37,213 --> 00:35:39,613
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heath and Tylor

757
00:35:39,653 --> 00:35:42,333
Speaker 1: Adams afternoons News TALKSB.

758
00:35:43,533 --> 00:35:45,252
Speaker 3: News Talks THEB it's seven to two.

759
00:35:45,453 --> 00:35:47,613
Speaker 2: A Sea forty City is a member of the Sea

760
00:35:47,693 --> 00:35:50,773
Speaker 2: forty Cities Climate Leadership Group, a global network of nearly

761
00:35:50,853 --> 00:35:55,813
Speaker 2: one hundred major Oh my god, Oh my goodness, what

762
00:35:55,893 --> 00:35:59,133
Speaker 2: have you found? Conspiracy? Oh just as I was reading

763
00:35:59,133 --> 00:36:02,213
Speaker 2: out about it, the page completely disappeared.

764
00:36:02,213 --> 00:36:03,813
Speaker 3: They shut down on you. They didn't want you to

765
00:36:03,853 --> 00:36:06,493
Speaker 3: know more, They shut down on me. Sea forty Cities

766
00:36:06,533 --> 00:36:08,093
Speaker 3: come on, just about honesty?

767
00:36:08,373 --> 00:36:14,413
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. So it's going hardcore on climate and

768
00:36:14,933 --> 00:36:17,453
Speaker 2: it's an Auckland as a signature.

769
00:36:17,933 --> 00:36:18,172
Speaker 3: Yeah.

770
00:36:18,253 --> 00:36:21,853
Speaker 2: So Karen was right, but the Google just deleted it

771
00:36:21,893 --> 00:36:22,973
Speaker 2: from me when I was reading.

772
00:36:22,813 --> 00:36:25,173
Speaker 3: It, or in a simulation that is too much of

773
00:36:25,213 --> 00:36:30,093
Speaker 3: a coincidence. Aaron, Yeah, Uric, his multiple agend doesn't play here.

774
00:36:31,733 --> 00:36:32,493
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, yeah.

775
00:36:32,573 --> 00:36:37,292
Speaker 16: Well out west up Bow West Gate, there have plenty

776
00:36:37,333 --> 00:36:39,453
Speaker 16: of land out to the left. They've moved the bus

777
00:36:39,493 --> 00:36:42,973
Speaker 16: stops into the middle of the walk off the entire

778
00:36:43,093 --> 00:36:46,253
Speaker 16: lane hitting up to the roundabout just before that, with

779
00:36:46,373 --> 00:36:48,293
Speaker 16: a turnoff to go down the back road down to

780
00:36:48,533 --> 00:36:52,853
Speaker 16: PB taking them to West Gates. They've put islands to

781
00:36:52,933 --> 00:36:56,172
Speaker 16: restrict traffic so you can't tucker all three lanes at

782
00:36:56,173 --> 00:36:59,933
Speaker 16: the same time on train the road a bit further

783
00:37:00,013 --> 00:37:03,212
Speaker 16: down the road heading towards Lincoln Road, they've spent three

784
00:37:03,293 --> 00:37:04,133
Speaker 16: months putting.

785
00:37:03,893 --> 00:37:05,093
Speaker 14: In a bus lane.

786
00:37:06,773 --> 00:37:10,533
Speaker 16: That literally goes nowhere other than jump to the bus maybe.

787
00:37:11,853 --> 00:37:13,013
Speaker 10: Ten cars up the road.

788
00:37:14,173 --> 00:37:17,013
Speaker 16: You know, it's I don't I don't see the point

789
00:37:17,093 --> 00:37:17,613
Speaker 16: of all.

790
00:37:17,493 --> 00:37:19,333
Speaker 10: These little exercises, where they.

791
00:37:19,733 --> 00:37:22,893
Speaker 16: Again had enough land land they could have gone three wide,

792
00:37:23,293 --> 00:37:25,693
Speaker 16: had one going onto the motorway, one going straight ahead

793
00:37:25,733 --> 00:37:27,933
Speaker 16: and onto Lincoln Road, and one for the bus to

794
00:37:28,013 --> 00:37:32,853
Speaker 16: go straight through. The protect seem to be very near

795
00:37:33,013 --> 00:37:37,853
Speaker 16: sighted and it seems to be all about restriction and

796
00:37:38,053 --> 00:37:40,333
Speaker 16: for the off street car parks. I can put seven

797
00:37:40,453 --> 00:37:44,772
Speaker 16: units on my on my property, I've got and five

798
00:37:45,133 --> 00:37:47,692
Speaker 16: off street car parks and that's only because it's got

799
00:37:48,213 --> 00:37:51,293
Speaker 16: the services running through the middle of the property and

800
00:37:51,533 --> 00:37:56,093
Speaker 16: it's cheaper than bridging and putting another unit on. So again,

801
00:37:56,213 --> 00:37:58,493
Speaker 16: why would you have seven units and only five off street?

802
00:37:58,533 --> 00:38:00,133
Speaker 16: Everyone fighting for a car bus?

803
00:38:00,453 --> 00:38:01,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

804
00:38:01,973 --> 00:38:04,773
Speaker 2: That's interesting. Yeah, this is interesting. Hey guys, just for

805
00:38:04,853 --> 00:38:08,213
Speaker 2: your information, Mechanical parking called car stacks are being installed

806
00:38:08,213 --> 00:38:10,212
Speaker 2: through out New Zealand, mainly in Auckland. In the last

807
00:38:10,213 --> 00:38:12,893
Speaker 2: teen years we've double tripled car spaces and buildings with

808
00:38:12,973 --> 00:38:16,293
Speaker 2: limited parking spaces. Simple design changes and height allows us

809
00:38:16,373 --> 00:38:19,613
Speaker 2: to this to happen. Latest project in Takapuna had twenty

810
00:38:19,653 --> 00:38:23,053
Speaker 2: six spaces. We increased that to seventy four same space.

811
00:38:23,533 --> 00:38:24,493
Speaker 2: I love a car stacker.

812
00:38:24,613 --> 00:38:27,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, vertical parking, that's the solution we need.

813
00:38:27,293 --> 00:38:31,293
Speaker 2: Yeah you see that. I saw this documentary on these parking.

814
00:38:31,813 --> 00:38:33,853
Speaker 2: Your park your car and it goes shit down into

815
00:38:33,893 --> 00:38:35,373
Speaker 2: the ground and then moves it into a slot and

816
00:38:35,373 --> 00:38:37,493
Speaker 2: then brings it back up. Yeah, so you go, that's

817
00:38:37,493 --> 00:38:38,533
Speaker 2: a real cool, But they don't want to do that

818
00:38:38,533 --> 00:38:40,172
Speaker 2: because they don't want you to drive a car into town.

819
00:38:40,213 --> 00:38:40,772
Speaker 2: They had cars.

820
00:38:40,933 --> 00:38:44,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're not going to do anything cool like Dan, Yeah,

821
00:38:44,613 --> 00:38:45,933
Speaker 3: we need that sort of ideas.

822
00:38:46,053 --> 00:38:49,093
Speaker 2: Just put an amazing futuristic car stacking situation in town

823
00:38:49,133 --> 00:38:51,053
Speaker 2: so we can all drive to work. Nah, they don't

824
00:38:51,053 --> 00:38:51,253
Speaker 2: want that.

825
00:38:51,653 --> 00:38:52,213
Speaker 3: They don't want that.

826
00:38:52,413 --> 00:38:54,333
Speaker 2: They want you riding in on your bike with your

827
00:38:54,373 --> 00:38:57,693
Speaker 2: French breadstick in the front basket, with your hair flowing

828
00:38:57,773 --> 00:38:59,853
Speaker 2: in the breeze, like the Osborne book or the future.

829
00:39:00,013 --> 00:39:02,413
Speaker 3: That sounds very nicely, doesn't it right? Thank you very

830
00:39:02,493 --> 00:39:04,373
Speaker 3: much Steve Ye who phoned and text on that that

831
00:39:04,493 --> 00:39:07,213
Speaker 3: was a great discussion coming up after two o'clock. Do

832
00:39:07,373 --> 00:39:09,933
Speaker 3: we need to break up with our love of property?

833
00:39:10,053 --> 00:39:12,213
Speaker 3: Jeremy Williamson. He is the head of Private Wealth and

834
00:39:12,253 --> 00:39:16,213
Speaker 3: Markets at Craig's Investment Partners. He says, yes, we do.

835
00:39:16,773 --> 00:39:18,573
Speaker 3: So we're going to catch up with him very shortly

836
00:39:18,813 --> 00:39:21,053
Speaker 3: and find out where we should be putting our money

837
00:39:21,253 --> 00:39:25,053
Speaker 3: in his Where where is more productive to put our money? Oh,

838
00:39:25,093 --> 00:39:27,053
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

839
00:39:27,293 --> 00:39:29,213
Speaker 2: The sea forty information has just popped up just too

840
00:39:29,293 --> 00:39:30,413
Speaker 2: late for me to read it out to you.

841
00:39:32,013 --> 00:39:35,333
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon, It's Matt Heath and Taylor

842
00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:37,693
Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons News Dogs.

843
00:39:37,693 --> 00:39:41,013
Speaker 3: That'd be a very very good afternoon to you. It

844
00:39:41,133 --> 00:39:42,013
Speaker 3: is seven past two.

845
00:39:42,253 --> 00:39:45,053
Speaker 2: You know, I've never met Michael Hill, Michael Hill jeweler.

846
00:39:45,413 --> 00:39:47,373
Speaker 2: I know a number of people have who live in

847
00:39:47,413 --> 00:39:50,853
Speaker 2: the area. But it is interesting, isn't it. These people

848
00:39:50,933 --> 00:39:53,573
Speaker 2: that are icons. They're there for your whole life. Basically,

849
00:39:53,733 --> 00:39:56,373
Speaker 2: you hear about Michael Hill and what he's been doing.

850
00:39:56,533 --> 00:39:58,813
Speaker 2: He his ads for the for the for the longest time.

851
00:39:59,173 --> 00:40:01,693
Speaker 2: Incredible story. So he was forty I think it was

852
00:40:01,693 --> 00:40:04,573
Speaker 2: about nineteen seventy nine, just doing the math when he,

853
00:40:05,453 --> 00:40:07,933
Speaker 2: you know, had been working in his uncle's jewelry store

854
00:40:07,933 --> 00:40:09,493
Speaker 2: and they just this vision of a new type of

855
00:40:09,533 --> 00:40:12,773
Speaker 2: jewelry store that's open and people can walk in and browse,

856
00:40:12,813 --> 00:40:16,172
Speaker 2: because jewelry stores before that had were sort of dark

857
00:40:16,253 --> 00:40:18,093
Speaker 2: and gloomy and you went through the door and it

858
00:40:18,173 --> 00:40:19,652
Speaker 2: rang a bow and you had a bit of look around,

859
00:40:19,733 --> 00:40:21,293
Speaker 2: and he was like, wouldn't it better if people just

860
00:40:21,333 --> 00:40:24,013
Speaker 2: see it and come in. Obviously there's security risks with that,

861
00:40:24,693 --> 00:40:29,693
Speaker 2: but very very interesting man, incredibly successful he was dreamed

862
00:40:29,693 --> 00:40:33,173
Speaker 2: of being a constant violinist, did he, Michael Hill. But

863
00:40:33,333 --> 00:40:35,893
Speaker 2: he's donated a lot of money to the arts in

864
00:40:36,053 --> 00:40:38,533
Speaker 2: his time, a huge, huge support of the arts. You know,

865
00:40:38,653 --> 00:40:41,652
Speaker 2: there's of course the Hills, So a lover of golf,

866
00:40:42,413 --> 00:40:45,213
Speaker 2: a lover of being on a boat. So but you know,

867
00:40:45,533 --> 00:40:48,053
Speaker 2: you have these people that have just they're in your consciousness,

868
00:40:48,093 --> 00:40:50,253
Speaker 2: so it's always quite weird when they leave. And he's

869
00:40:50,293 --> 00:40:53,772
Speaker 2: an absolute New Zealand icon and incredible success story. Yeah,

870
00:40:54,053 --> 00:40:56,172
Speaker 2: put him in this sort of the same mental space

871
00:40:56,213 --> 00:40:58,453
Speaker 2: as Bob Jones to a certain extent.

872
00:40:58,613 --> 00:41:00,732
Speaker 3: Definitely, as you said, but you know his story when

873
00:41:00,893 --> 00:41:03,053
Speaker 3: at the age of forty his house burnt down, he

874
00:41:03,173 --> 00:41:06,413
Speaker 3: lost everything at that point, the drive into nacity and

875
00:41:06,613 --> 00:41:08,693
Speaker 3: audacity at that point, as you say, to try and

876
00:41:08,813 --> 00:41:11,813
Speaker 3: do something new and different in the world of jewelry

877
00:41:12,693 --> 00:41:14,333
Speaker 3: and look at what his career.

878
00:41:14,413 --> 00:41:17,373
Speaker 2: But there's plenty people that forty are going, oh I'm done,

879
00:41:17,853 --> 00:41:20,653
Speaker 2: I'm done. You can turn things around you forty. So

880
00:41:20,733 --> 00:41:23,133
Speaker 2: I've just I've just pulled up a Michael Hill advertisement

881
00:41:23,213 --> 00:41:26,533
Speaker 2: for nineteen from nineteen ninety. So I'm not sure what

882
00:41:26,613 --> 00:41:27,893
Speaker 2: it's going to sound like, but I think it's an

883
00:41:27,893 --> 00:41:29,413
Speaker 2: appropriate thing to play right now.

884
00:41:30,413 --> 00:41:33,653
Speaker 17: Hello, Michael Hill Jeweler, don't miss my great annual sale.

885
00:41:33,893 --> 00:41:36,453
Speaker 17: These diamond eternity rings. Great buying up. Three hundred and

886
00:41:36,453 --> 00:41:39,653
Speaker 17: six dollars are now just ninety nine dollars. Silver bracelest

887
00:41:39,773 --> 00:41:42,212
Speaker 17: was poor charms. We're sixty five dollars now twenty nine.

888
00:41:42,373 --> 00:41:45,373
Speaker 3: Be there, Michael Hill Jeweler. Oh may that is nice.

889
00:41:45,573 --> 00:41:48,973
Speaker 2: The voice is so iconic. Yeah it's Michael Hill Jeweler.

890
00:41:49,093 --> 00:41:50,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we all remember those ads.

891
00:41:50,773 --> 00:41:53,693
Speaker 2: But yeah, so I think there's hundreds of shops. I

892
00:41:53,733 --> 00:41:56,013
Speaker 2: think he's got what is about three hundred stores in

893
00:41:56,053 --> 00:41:59,413
Speaker 2: the Michael Hill chain across New Zealand, Australia, in Canada,

894
00:41:59,573 --> 00:42:03,013
Speaker 2: so yeah what a yeah that said. And of course

895
00:42:03,093 --> 00:42:05,212
Speaker 2: married to Christine for sixty years.

896
00:42:05,733 --> 00:42:08,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, so rip Michael Hill Jewelers an incredible New Zealand.

897
00:42:09,053 --> 00:42:10,933
Speaker 3: So absolutely rip Michael Hill.

898
00:42:11,893 --> 00:42:14,613
Speaker 2: It's just so used to hearing Michael Hill Jeweler.

899
00:42:14,453 --> 00:42:17,373
Speaker 3: Rolls off the dung visitor absolutely rest in peace of

900
00:42:17,533 --> 00:42:20,493
Speaker 3: very sad news today. Right, let's have a chat about

901
00:42:20,533 --> 00:42:23,773
Speaker 3: our love of fair Worth property. So one investment expert,

902
00:42:23,933 --> 00:42:26,013
Speaker 3: Jeremy Williamson, We're going to have a chat to him

903
00:42:26,093 --> 00:42:27,773
Speaker 3: very shortly. He is the head of Private Wealth and

904
00:42:27,853 --> 00:42:30,973
Speaker 3: Markets at Craig Investment Partners. He says there was momentum

905
00:42:31,013 --> 00:42:33,333
Speaker 3: building for a move away from our love affair with

906
00:42:33,413 --> 00:42:36,692
Speaker 3: property and property investment. He says, I quote, we think

907
00:42:36,773 --> 00:42:38,693
Speaker 3: that's great for a number of reasons. New Zealand is

908
00:42:38,693 --> 00:42:40,933
Speaker 3: always going to have an affinity with property investment, but

909
00:42:41,053 --> 00:42:44,093
Speaker 3: there are so many benefits for us as a country

910
00:42:44,333 --> 00:42:45,893
Speaker 3: if we can turn the dial away from it.

911
00:42:46,693 --> 00:42:50,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, So have you successfully invested outside of property?

912
00:42:51,293 --> 00:42:51,413
Speaker 14: Well?

913
00:42:51,493 --> 00:42:55,773
Speaker 2: Have you successfully invested instead of property? And look, I

914
00:42:55,853 --> 00:42:58,773
Speaker 2: think I mean personally, I love owning a house and

915
00:42:59,613 --> 00:43:01,812
Speaker 2: I would even lose money to own own a house.

916
00:43:02,013 --> 00:43:03,772
Speaker 2: I love being able to do stuff to my house.

917
00:43:04,653 --> 00:43:07,013
Speaker 2: It feels great, great to sort of own I think,

918
00:43:07,493 --> 00:43:10,293
Speaker 2: you know, even though the government still punishes you, the

919
00:43:10,373 --> 00:43:13,133
Speaker 2: council charges you rates, there's so many things you can't

920
00:43:13,213 --> 00:43:15,053
Speaker 2: do in your house, et cetera, it does feel great

921
00:43:15,093 --> 00:43:19,013
Speaker 2: to own a slice of this great country. And look,

922
00:43:19,053 --> 00:43:21,013
Speaker 2: I'm willing to pay for that. So it's not just

923
00:43:21,093 --> 00:43:23,573
Speaker 2: an investment, you know, it's not just it's not just

924
00:43:23,693 --> 00:43:28,013
Speaker 2: a wealth generated your first house. But you know, property

925
00:43:28,053 --> 00:43:30,933
Speaker 2: investment outside your first house. Are there better ways to

926
00:43:30,973 --> 00:43:33,933
Speaker 2: make money? Because he says the key we saver over

927
00:43:33,973 --> 00:43:37,733
Speaker 2: the last wee Wiles, is you know a fast, a

928
00:43:37,933 --> 00:43:40,933
Speaker 2: fast earning key we saver account has earned more than

929
00:43:40,933 --> 00:43:42,053
Speaker 2: property over the last ten years?

930
00:43:42,133 --> 00:43:44,093
Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh, e one hundred eighty ten eighty is the

931
00:43:44,213 --> 00:43:46,733
Speaker 3: number to call? Is there a better investment than property?

932
00:43:47,013 --> 00:43:48,853
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty five? Love to have a chat with

933
00:43:48,933 --> 00:43:50,533
Speaker 3: you on this Coming up, we are going to catch

934
00:43:50,653 --> 00:43:53,093
Speaker 3: up with Jeremy Williamson, the head of Private Wealth and

935
00:43:53,133 --> 00:43:56,333
Speaker 3: Markets at Craig's Investment Partners and put some questions to them.

936
00:43:56,413 --> 00:43:57,973
Speaker 3: It is eleven past two.

937
00:43:59,893 --> 00:44:04,013
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

938
00:44:04,253 --> 00:44:07,373
Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk said.

939
00:44:07,213 --> 00:44:07,293
Speaker 11: Be.

940
00:44:09,093 --> 00:44:11,333
Speaker 3: Fourteen past two. So do we need to break our

941
00:44:11,413 --> 00:44:15,053
Speaker 3: love fear with property? Jeremy Williamson here to Private Wealth

942
00:44:15,093 --> 00:44:17,773
Speaker 3: and Markets at Craig's Investment Partners. Reacons we should be

943
00:44:17,853 --> 00:44:21,133
Speaker 3: investing in assets that actually grow the economy, and he

944
00:44:21,253 --> 00:44:25,773
Speaker 3: joins us now afternoon, Jeremy, Hey, guys, hey, Jeremy, why.

945
00:44:25,773 --> 00:44:28,373
Speaker 2: Do key we still love property so much even when

946
00:44:28,413 --> 00:44:30,173
Speaker 2: the returns aren't what.

947
00:44:30,293 --> 00:44:30,853
Speaker 9: They used to be.

948
00:44:32,093 --> 00:44:33,772
Speaker 18: I keep asking myself the same.

949
00:44:36,053 --> 00:44:37,773
Speaker 14: Look. I think there's a couple of parts to it.

950
00:44:37,853 --> 00:44:38,093
Speaker 9: Guys.

951
00:44:38,133 --> 00:44:42,533
Speaker 18: I think Kiwi's they love what they can see and

952
00:44:42,693 --> 00:44:45,893
Speaker 18: tangible assets. And we look, we all know that we

953
00:44:45,973 --> 00:44:51,933
Speaker 18: can touch an investment property it stands, it's relatively transparent

954
00:44:52,133 --> 00:44:55,173
Speaker 18: in terms of how it's valued. And I think the

955
00:44:55,213 --> 00:45:00,732
Speaker 18: other thing is access to borrowing. So it's very hard

956
00:45:00,853 --> 00:45:02,973
Speaker 18: for a lot of key we used to get access

957
00:45:03,013 --> 00:45:05,933
Speaker 18: to borrowing and mortgaging the houses is a way to

958
00:45:06,013 --> 00:45:10,413
Speaker 18: do it. And maybe if we go back a few decades,

959
00:45:10,453 --> 00:45:13,853
Speaker 18: back to the back into the eighties, there for a

960
00:45:13,933 --> 00:45:16,213
Speaker 18: lot of for a lot of older Kiwis, there was

961
00:45:16,733 --> 00:45:18,933
Speaker 18: a difficult period in the ship market around the eighty

962
00:45:18,973 --> 00:45:20,933
Speaker 18: seven crash. So yeah, I think it's a whole lot

963
00:45:21,013 --> 00:45:25,652
Speaker 18: of that stuff that has affected the national psyche. And yeah,

964
00:45:25,653 --> 00:45:29,133
Speaker 18: I think it's time to have a conversation around around

965
00:45:29,573 --> 00:45:31,573
Speaker 18: well what can we do for the betterment of Kiwis

966
00:45:31,653 --> 00:45:35,413
Speaker 18: and the next generation. And I think our disposition towards

967
00:45:35,853 --> 00:45:37,493
Speaker 18: property investment's got a part to play.

968
00:45:38,533 --> 00:45:42,772
Speaker 2: Are you talking about second properties and investment properties, Because

969
00:45:42,773 --> 00:45:47,293
Speaker 2: of course your first house has more than a financial investment,

970
00:45:47,333 --> 00:45:49,773
Speaker 2: and it's an emotional investment. It's a piece of the country.

971
00:45:49,893 --> 00:45:54,213
Speaker 2: It's it's you know, something solid. It's the ability to,

972
00:45:54,773 --> 00:45:56,693
Speaker 2: I don't know, knock out a wall with a sledgehammer,

973
00:45:56,733 --> 00:45:59,053
Speaker 2: if you, if you, if you want to. So are

974
00:45:59,093 --> 00:46:02,693
Speaker 2: you talking about moving that investment away from you know,

975
00:46:02,893 --> 00:46:06,093
Speaker 2: from when as a financial investment? Or do you think

976
00:46:06,093 --> 00:46:08,493
Speaker 2: people should give up on the family home in the

977
00:46:08,533 --> 00:46:09,013
Speaker 2: first place.

978
00:46:09,933 --> 00:46:12,773
Speaker 18: No, I'm in the ladder camp. And you know, for

979
00:46:12,853 --> 00:46:16,173
Speaker 18: a lot of kiwis the family home sacrisanct. And you

980
00:46:16,213 --> 00:46:19,573
Speaker 18: know we all feel like that, don't we. It's more

981
00:46:19,613 --> 00:46:23,213
Speaker 18: the second and third and fourth homes, the investment properties,

982
00:46:23,893 --> 00:46:26,853
Speaker 18: all that stuff. I think it's time to have a

983
00:46:26,933 --> 00:46:30,373
Speaker 18: conversation nationally around now what is that actually doing?

984
00:46:31,253 --> 00:46:32,653
Speaker 14: And I think of you know, when your.

985
00:46:32,573 --> 00:46:36,693
Speaker 18: Kids playing past the parcel and trading and buying and

986
00:46:36,773 --> 00:46:39,293
Speaker 18: selling investment properties to each other. Feels a bit like

987
00:46:39,373 --> 00:46:41,493
Speaker 18: that to me, where you know, you take a twenty

988
00:46:41,533 --> 00:46:43,813
Speaker 18: dollar notes, you pass it around the circle, It still

989
00:46:43,853 --> 00:46:46,373
Speaker 18: comes back as a twenty dollar note, doesn't it. I

990
00:46:46,493 --> 00:46:51,813
Speaker 18: feel like the love affair we have with investment property

991
00:46:52,013 --> 00:46:53,413
Speaker 18: has the same sort of thing to it.

992
00:46:54,213 --> 00:46:56,493
Speaker 3: A lot of people will be hearing that, Jeremy and

993
00:46:56,973 --> 00:47:00,413
Speaker 3: thinking it's quite altruistic a statement from yourself that we

994
00:47:00,533 --> 00:47:03,493
Speaker 3: do what's good for the country rather than ourselves. And

995
00:47:03,573 --> 00:47:05,013
Speaker 3: I think what you say is a lot of logic

996
00:47:05,093 --> 00:47:06,453
Speaker 3: to it, But you get what I'm saying. A lot

997
00:47:06,493 --> 00:47:09,933
Speaker 3: of people are their prime refocus is what is going

998
00:47:10,013 --> 00:47:12,373
Speaker 3: to build wealth for them and their family and hopefully

999
00:47:12,453 --> 00:47:14,533
Speaker 3: something to hand down to their kids and for them,

1000
00:47:14,613 --> 00:47:16,213
Speaker 3: property still feels like the way to go.

1001
00:47:17,373 --> 00:47:20,013
Speaker 18: Yeah, and I can understand that. I mean, that's that's

1002
00:47:20,413 --> 00:47:23,732
Speaker 18: an equally valid view as well. I guess I'll take

1003
00:47:23,773 --> 00:47:25,373
Speaker 18: it up a few levels and you think of it

1004
00:47:26,213 --> 00:47:28,973
Speaker 18: from a national point of view, if we were to

1005
00:47:29,773 --> 00:47:32,252
Speaker 18: if we were to have a national conversation and move

1006
00:47:32,413 --> 00:47:34,453
Speaker 18: just the deal slightly. I mean, I'm not sitting here

1007
00:47:34,533 --> 00:47:37,172
Speaker 18: saying let's all get out of property. It's not where

1008
00:47:37,213 --> 00:47:39,813
Speaker 18: I'm coming from. Where I'm coming from. If we move

1009
00:47:39,893 --> 00:47:43,093
Speaker 18: the deal slightly and put a bit more of that

1010
00:47:44,013 --> 00:47:50,253
Speaker 18: investment property capital into productive assets, grow the economy, grow productivity,

1011
00:47:51,213 --> 00:47:54,213
Speaker 18: create more jobs for the next generation of kids coming along,

1012
00:47:54,333 --> 00:47:58,013
Speaker 18: and take a bit of heat out of property prices generally,

1013
00:47:58,213 --> 00:48:01,613
Speaker 18: because I think inequality is a bit of a conversation

1014
00:48:01,733 --> 00:48:05,213
Speaker 18: we're having nationally at the moment and over allocating to

1015
00:48:05,373 --> 00:48:08,933
Speaker 18: property as a country, I think it has a part

1016
00:48:09,013 --> 00:48:10,973
Speaker 18: to play in equality as well.

1017
00:48:11,253 --> 00:48:12,973
Speaker 2: So how much are we talking? How much of a

1018
00:48:13,093 --> 00:48:16,213
Speaker 2: dial shift do you think would make a material difference

1019
00:48:16,293 --> 00:48:17,293
Speaker 2: to to our economy.

1020
00:48:18,213 --> 00:48:20,373
Speaker 18: Oh look, I want to crunch the numbers in my

1021
00:48:20,493 --> 00:48:22,533
Speaker 18: own head, but if I was a stab.

1022
00:48:22,333 --> 00:48:26,973
Speaker 14: At, put me on this spot roughly roughly roughly. Look,

1023
00:48:27,653 --> 00:48:30,413
Speaker 14: I won't put my life on it, but what I'll

1024
00:48:30,453 --> 00:48:30,773
Speaker 14: say is.

1025
00:48:31,133 --> 00:48:33,253
Speaker 18: I'm talking a couple of percentage points, you know, to

1026
00:48:33,693 --> 00:48:36,853
Speaker 18: maybe two, three, four, five percent would make a huge difference.

1027
00:48:37,333 --> 00:48:41,053
Speaker 18: You know, we think about how investment and housing generally,

1028
00:48:41,173 --> 00:48:44,253
Speaker 18: and investment properties and New Zealand residentially. I think the

1029
00:48:44,333 --> 00:48:46,933
Speaker 18: number is something like one point six one point seven trillion,

1030
00:48:47,253 --> 00:48:49,453
Speaker 18: So it's a big number, and if you break it

1031
00:48:49,573 --> 00:48:53,613
Speaker 18: down into a little bite sized pieces, a few percentage

1032
00:48:53,653 --> 00:48:56,253
Speaker 18: points could make a big difference in terms of that

1033
00:48:56,413 --> 00:48:59,573
Speaker 18: capital going into these productive assets. So yeah, I'm certainly

1034
00:48:59,613 --> 00:49:01,973
Speaker 18: not sitting here saying let's let's run for the hills

1035
00:49:01,973 --> 00:49:05,213
Speaker 18: from property. I just think that's that the conversation is

1036
00:49:05,253 --> 00:49:07,213
Speaker 18: starting to shift around how we turn the dial just

1037
00:49:07,293 --> 00:49:07,773
Speaker 18: a little bit.

1038
00:49:08,453 --> 00:49:11,053
Speaker 2: Kind of touched this on this before, but as this

1039
00:49:11,173 --> 00:49:13,453
Speaker 2: text to Ben says, you can't borrow five hundred k

1040
00:49:13,693 --> 00:49:16,253
Speaker 2: and buy shares and make four to six on that

1041
00:49:16,333 --> 00:49:18,413
Speaker 2: five hundred k. If you went into a bank and see,

1042
00:49:18,533 --> 00:49:20,973
Speaker 2: ed luck, I've got this portfolio I want to buy.

1043
00:49:21,253 --> 00:49:24,413
Speaker 2: Can you can you give me a mortgage? They're probably

1044
00:49:24,453 --> 00:49:25,853
Speaker 2: going to say get out, aren't they?

1045
00:49:26,893 --> 00:49:27,333
Speaker 14: Yeah? They are.

1046
00:49:27,413 --> 00:49:29,053
Speaker 18: But I think it goes back to the earlier point,

1047
00:49:29,093 --> 00:49:31,773
Speaker 18: doesn't it. I mean the family house being sacrassanct to

1048
00:49:31,853 --> 00:49:37,733
Speaker 18: New Zealanders and maintaining that culture and getting access towards

1049
00:49:38,413 --> 00:49:41,813
Speaker 18: towards some borrowings that way to whether they have that

1050
00:49:41,893 --> 00:49:44,652
Speaker 18: personal decision to put some of that borrowing into other

1051
00:49:44,733 --> 00:49:48,333
Speaker 18: asset classes. But you know, my conversation, what I'm thinking

1052
00:49:48,373 --> 00:49:51,652
Speaker 18: about is more around that second second third and those

1053
00:49:51,693 --> 00:49:54,333
Speaker 18: sort of investment properties. But yeah, there's no doubt that

1054
00:49:54,933 --> 00:49:58,813
Speaker 18: the family home sacrasanct creates memories. It's the place for

1055
00:49:58,893 --> 00:50:01,773
Speaker 18: the family to be and also can help with some

1056
00:50:01,853 --> 00:50:02,733
Speaker 18: access to leverage.

1057
00:50:02,893 --> 00:50:05,253
Speaker 2: We're talking to Jeremy Williamson, head of Private Wealth and

1058
00:50:05,373 --> 00:50:08,093
Speaker 2: Markets at Craig's Investment Partners. Now, you mentioned the eighty

1059
00:50:08,093 --> 00:50:11,212
Speaker 2: seven crash, and we all know that the country went

1060
00:50:11,373 --> 00:50:15,293
Speaker 2: crazy for stocks after the Longe government came in eighty four,

1061
00:50:15,333 --> 00:50:16,893
Speaker 2: there was this huge burn and then a lot of

1062
00:50:16,933 --> 00:50:18,573
Speaker 2: people got burned, and it felt like there was a

1063
00:50:18,933 --> 00:50:23,213
Speaker 2: cultural fear that spread through the nation against the shear market,

1064
00:50:23,733 --> 00:50:26,212
Speaker 2: and that was pointed out as a moment when people

1065
00:50:26,293 --> 00:50:29,693
Speaker 2: moved heavily into property because they thought it was less riskier.

1066
00:50:30,453 --> 00:50:34,373
Speaker 2: How fair is that view now, that property is less

1067
00:50:34,493 --> 00:50:37,493
Speaker 2: risky than a second property is less risky than the

1068
00:50:37,533 --> 00:50:38,613
Speaker 2: shear market for example.

1069
00:50:39,573 --> 00:50:41,213
Speaker 18: Yeah, well, I guess for how I look at that

1070
00:50:41,413 --> 00:50:42,893
Speaker 18: is sort of look at it the other way. And

1071
00:50:43,613 --> 00:50:47,453
Speaker 18: back in the eighties, the share market was dominated by

1072
00:50:47,573 --> 00:50:50,773
Speaker 18: investment companies. The companies set up to invest in small

1073
00:50:50,813 --> 00:50:54,573
Speaker 18: pieces of other companies that would invest in small pieces

1074
00:50:54,613 --> 00:50:58,933
Speaker 18: of other companies. So it was it felt like a

1075
00:50:59,013 --> 00:51:00,613
Speaker 18: little bit of a house of cards.

1076
00:51:00,973 --> 00:51:04,533
Speaker 14: I contrast it today. You look at the listed market

1077
00:51:04,573 --> 00:51:05,333
Speaker 14: here in New Zealand.

1078
00:51:05,413 --> 00:51:09,733
Speaker 18: It's full of productive companies that actually do things. They export,

1079
00:51:10,613 --> 00:51:14,653
Speaker 18: they create, create create jobs, they pay their taxes and

1080
00:51:14,693 --> 00:51:17,093
Speaker 18: they're doing great for New Zealand. I think of the

1081
00:51:17,133 --> 00:51:21,013
Speaker 18: companies like Fisher and Pike Girl Healthcare. So I think

1082
00:51:21,053 --> 00:51:24,413
Speaker 18: it's changed. I think it's changed dramatically, But you know,

1083
00:51:24,413 --> 00:51:26,853
Speaker 18: I appreciate there'll be some around that go. You know,

1084
00:51:26,853 --> 00:51:29,253
Speaker 18: I had that bad, bad experience in the eighties and

1085
00:51:29,773 --> 00:51:31,533
Speaker 18: and bricks and mortar feels safer to me.

1086
00:51:32,173 --> 00:51:35,013
Speaker 2: So So if that's the case, do you reckon that

1087
00:51:35,173 --> 00:51:37,493
Speaker 2: the tax system needs a sort of a shake up

1088
00:51:37,533 --> 00:51:41,093
Speaker 2: to get people looking beyond property if people are still

1089
00:51:41,133 --> 00:51:43,093
Speaker 2: nervous and as you say, it's good for the company

1090
00:51:43,133 --> 00:51:46,893
Speaker 2: if we start investing in and things that employee people

1091
00:51:47,373 --> 00:51:50,813
Speaker 2: and and you know in New Zealand companies, do you

1092
00:51:50,853 --> 00:51:53,692
Speaker 2: think that that a change to the tax system could

1093
00:51:53,813 --> 00:51:56,093
Speaker 2: could jumpstart that that that move.

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00:51:57,133 --> 00:51:58,652
Speaker 18: Yeah, I could do. I mean, I think it's worth

1095
00:51:58,693 --> 00:52:02,093
Speaker 18: thinking about, isn't it. And generally what you what you

1096
00:52:02,213 --> 00:52:05,133
Speaker 18: find with the taxation system and life generally is that

1097
00:52:05,813 --> 00:52:08,293
Speaker 18: you know, incentives to get into into things that are

1098
00:52:08,813 --> 00:52:11,813
Speaker 18: good for good for the economy tend to work.

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00:52:13,173 --> 00:52:13,333
Speaker 10: Yeah.

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00:52:13,333 --> 00:52:16,173
Speaker 18: I'm known tax tax expert and not a favor with

1101
00:52:16,213 --> 00:52:18,493
Speaker 18: all the tax settings, of course, but I think it's

1102
00:52:18,973 --> 00:52:21,133
Speaker 18: a good time to think about all that sort of stuff.

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00:52:21,813 --> 00:52:24,013
Speaker 2: And we hear that young people are locked out of

1104
00:52:24,053 --> 00:52:28,133
Speaker 2: the property market, So are they just naturally moving away

1105
00:52:28,253 --> 00:52:31,253
Speaker 2: from property? Will this just just change over time as

1106
00:52:31,293 --> 00:52:34,533
Speaker 2: it becomes impossible for young people to get into property,

1107
00:52:34,573 --> 00:52:36,733
Speaker 2: so they're like, now I'll have it all at bitcoin.

1108
00:52:38,533 --> 00:52:40,893
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's a question I'll get asked all the time

1109
00:52:41,213 --> 00:52:44,173
Speaker 18: when you look at offshore. I mean we've been a

1110
00:52:44,333 --> 00:52:49,293
Speaker 18: property ownership for our primary domicile. Owning that prominent primary

1111
00:52:49,373 --> 00:52:53,133
Speaker 18: domicile has been an important part of keepa culture offshore,

1112
00:52:53,653 --> 00:52:56,173
Speaker 18: you know, in the European some of the European countries,

1113
00:52:56,213 --> 00:52:59,853
Speaker 18: you know, renting is something that is far more normal

1114
00:52:59,933 --> 00:53:02,573
Speaker 18: with a higher prevalence rate, so you know, maybe it

1115
00:53:02,693 --> 00:53:03,293
Speaker 18: goes that way.

1116
00:53:03,773 --> 00:53:05,453
Speaker 14: You know what, what we see a bit of now

1117
00:53:05,613 --> 00:53:06,533
Speaker 14: our business.

1118
00:53:06,253 --> 00:53:08,253
Speaker 18: At Craigs there's a lot of young people getting in

1119
00:53:08,773 --> 00:53:13,413
Speaker 18: into the share market and that's exciting and good luck

1120
00:53:13,493 --> 00:53:13,773
Speaker 18: to them.

1121
00:53:14,293 --> 00:53:16,573
Speaker 3: Jeremy, it's been great chatting with you. It's an interesting

1122
00:53:16,653 --> 00:53:18,893
Speaker 3: discussion and we're looking forward to see what our talkback

1123
00:53:18,933 --> 00:53:20,933
Speaker 3: callers have got to say. But thank you very much

1124
00:53:20,973 --> 00:53:23,773
Speaker 3: for your time, pleasure, thanks for having me. That is

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00:53:23,853 --> 00:53:26,133
Speaker 3: Jeremy Williamson, the head of Private Wealth and Markets at

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00:53:26,213 --> 00:53:28,813
Speaker 3: Craig's Investment Partners. So what do you say, Oh, eight

1127
00:53:28,893 --> 00:53:30,693
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Is

1128
00:53:30,733 --> 00:53:33,933
Speaker 3: there a better investment than property in twenty twenty five,

1129
00:53:34,093 --> 00:53:36,613
Speaker 3: love to hear your thoughts. It is twenty three past two,

1130
00:53:37,213 --> 00:53:40,893
Speaker 3: News Talks edb. It is twenty five a past two,

1131
00:53:41,293 --> 00:53:44,693
Speaker 3: and we are talking about our love affair of property.

1132
00:53:44,813 --> 00:53:46,973
Speaker 3: So Jeremy Williamson, who we caught up with before, he's

1133
00:53:47,013 --> 00:53:49,413
Speaker 3: the head of Private Wealth and Markets at Craig's Investment Partners.

1134
00:53:49,453 --> 00:53:52,692
Speaker 3: He said that there was momentum building for a move

1135
00:53:52,733 --> 00:53:55,933
Speaker 3: away from just purely investing in property and investing in

1136
00:53:56,053 --> 00:53:58,173
Speaker 3: things that are better for the country. What do you say, Oh,

1137
00:53:58,213 --> 00:54:00,413
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to call this.

1138
00:54:00,933 --> 00:54:04,813
Speaker 2: Texas is never stocks. I've read that approximately one hundred

1139
00:54:04,933 --> 00:54:06,453
Speaker 2: of the one hundred and fifty of the top five

1140
00:54:06,533 --> 00:54:09,172
Speaker 2: hundred businesses from the nineteen ninety foot five hundred are

1141
00:54:09,173 --> 00:54:12,693
Speaker 2: still listed on the American Stock Exchange. So so around

1142
00:54:12,773 --> 00:54:14,653
Speaker 2: two thirds of the businesses you could have invested in

1143
00:54:14,733 --> 00:54:17,293
Speaker 2: are no longer even there. Where you know, buy low,

1144
00:54:17,453 --> 00:54:20,333
Speaker 2: sell high, get out before they explode. That's okay, I mean,

1145
00:54:20,453 --> 00:54:24,053
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety is a long long time ago. We're talking

1146
00:54:24,093 --> 00:54:27,652
Speaker 2: thirty five years there. Yeah, absolutely, Tony, welcome to the show.

1147
00:54:27,813 --> 00:54:30,773
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on property investment versus the other options out there.

1148
00:54:32,133 --> 00:54:39,133
Speaker 19: Well, I can't quite follow your reasoning. Let's put it

1149
00:54:39,173 --> 00:54:41,773
Speaker 19: to you this way. Let's say, right at this moment,

1150
00:54:42,813 --> 00:54:47,853
Speaker 19: everybody in New Zealand didn't buy a house. Okay, they

1151
00:54:47,973 --> 00:54:51,772
Speaker 19: put their money into Mount Productive by a company where

1152
00:54:51,813 --> 00:54:55,093
Speaker 19: they give create jobs. But in the meantime, where are

1153
00:54:55,133 --> 00:54:58,093
Speaker 19: those people going to live. To live somewhere, They're going

1154
00:54:58,133 --> 00:55:00,053
Speaker 19: to have to live in a home, and that home

1155
00:55:00,173 --> 00:55:03,853
Speaker 19: has to be owned by either an individual kiwi or

1156
00:55:03,893 --> 00:55:07,893
Speaker 19: a company which is composed comprised of a number of kiwis.

1157
00:55:08,493 --> 00:55:11,692
Speaker 19: So people are never going to have a The only

1158
00:55:11,773 --> 00:55:14,293
Speaker 19: way you're going to get out of that situation is

1159
00:55:14,453 --> 00:55:18,573
Speaker 19: for the government to supply a statehouse for everybody. So

1160
00:55:18,693 --> 00:55:21,292
Speaker 19: insiding you buy a house, you put your money into

1161
00:55:21,413 --> 00:55:22,413
Speaker 19: some form of investment.

1162
00:55:22,613 --> 00:55:26,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think Tony he was I mean, Jeremy

1163
00:55:26,213 --> 00:55:30,093
Speaker 2: was talking about moving the dial a small percentage just

1164
00:55:30,133 --> 00:55:32,373
Speaker 2: away from property, not saying that people don't buy their

1165
00:55:32,413 --> 00:55:35,093
Speaker 2: first house. In fact, he was mainly talking about second houses,

1166
00:55:35,173 --> 00:55:37,973
Speaker 2: third houses. So when you have some extra money to invest,

1167
00:55:38,093 --> 00:55:40,813
Speaker 2: so he's not talking about just everyone jumping out of

1168
00:55:40,853 --> 00:55:43,413
Speaker 2: the house right now. Is saying, if you're about to

1169
00:55:43,653 --> 00:55:47,493
Speaker 2: invest in a second property as an investment. Maybe you

1170
00:55:47,653 --> 00:55:50,933
Speaker 2: instead invest in a business or invest in the stock market, or.

1171
00:55:51,533 --> 00:55:54,733
Speaker 19: The average kiwi I mean, I've been in New Zealand

1172
00:55:54,773 --> 00:55:57,373
Speaker 19: fifty years. My wife and I when she was alive,

1173
00:55:57,613 --> 00:56:00,813
Speaker 19: we can never afford two houses. We could just afford

1174
00:56:01,013 --> 00:56:04,613
Speaker 19: to buy our own house. And that is the average kiwie. Okay,

1175
00:56:05,013 --> 00:56:08,213
Speaker 19: what you're looking at is that small section of New Zealand.

1176
00:56:08,653 --> 00:56:13,133
Speaker 19: We're wealthy, we have money and can become landlordsand own

1177
00:56:13,293 --> 00:56:15,413
Speaker 19: a number of properties. And you're there not going to

1178
00:56:15,453 --> 00:56:16,053
Speaker 19: get away from that.

1179
00:56:16,173 --> 00:56:17,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what that's what we're talking about. We're talking

1180
00:56:17,893 --> 00:56:20,013
Speaker 2: about the people that have got some money to invest,

1181
00:56:20,493 --> 00:56:23,973
Speaker 2: where should they invest it as property? Because right now,

1182
00:56:25,053 --> 00:56:25,453
Speaker 2: right now.

1183
00:56:25,413 --> 00:56:31,053
Speaker 19: People invest If they don't invest it in houses. If

1184
00:56:31,093 --> 00:56:33,693
Speaker 19: you're what you're talking about to the government want was

1185
00:56:33,733 --> 00:56:35,613
Speaker 19: to try and make it more attractive for them to

1186
00:56:36,013 --> 00:56:40,652
Speaker 19: invest in other areas, then these supply houses is going.

1187
00:56:40,573 --> 00:56:44,253
Speaker 2: To dry up in terms of rental properties. You mean,

1188
00:56:45,933 --> 00:56:48,693
Speaker 2: well yeah, and and new built being built.

1189
00:56:49,053 --> 00:56:51,133
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean it's the supply and demand. If there's

1190
00:56:51,173 --> 00:56:54,053
Speaker 19: no if there's no demand for a house and builders

1191
00:56:54,053 --> 00:56:54,813
Speaker 19: are not going to build them.

1192
00:56:55,013 --> 00:56:58,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, But so but would you would would would you

1193
00:56:58,173 --> 00:57:02,213
Speaker 2: be happy with us just to move or a percentage

1194
00:57:02,293 --> 00:57:04,133
Speaker 2: move away. So they'd say, let's just pull up, pull up,

1195
00:57:04,213 --> 00:57:08,773
Speaker 2: figure out if we move five percent away, money that

1196
00:57:08,973 --> 00:57:13,973
Speaker 2: was being invested into property was moved into productive assets.

1197
00:57:15,493 --> 00:57:21,093
Speaker 19: There have been five percent houses less houses, basically, you know,

1198
00:57:21,173 --> 00:57:22,293
Speaker 19: you kind of it both ways.

1199
00:57:22,973 --> 00:57:24,613
Speaker 2: So so but hang on a minute, so you you

1200
00:57:24,773 --> 00:57:27,453
Speaker 2: think that, I mean, it's not as zero su game, though,

1201
00:57:27,533 --> 00:57:30,173
Speaker 2: is it, Because you know, the markets move all over

1202
00:57:30,253 --> 00:57:33,733
Speaker 2: the shop now, so there is currently some investment outside

1203
00:57:33,813 --> 00:57:38,213
Speaker 2: of property, and and and we we have you know this,

1204
00:57:38,373 --> 00:57:41,733
Speaker 2: the people investing this year market now obviously, and we

1205
00:57:41,853 --> 00:57:43,573
Speaker 2: still have people building houses.

1206
00:57:45,453 --> 00:57:46,893
Speaker 19: I think you're going to have to find a risk

1207
00:57:46,933 --> 00:57:50,453
Speaker 19: of people move away from buying a house. Whoever they

1208
00:57:50,533 --> 00:57:53,693
Speaker 19: are you move away, doesn't have what percentage. There's going

1209
00:57:53,773 --> 00:57:56,293
Speaker 19: to be less houses being built, which you tend to

1210
00:57:56,373 --> 00:58:00,773
Speaker 19: be the remaining houses because there's less of them will

1211
00:58:00,813 --> 00:58:03,733
Speaker 19: go up in price to make them even more unaffordable.

1212
00:58:04,293 --> 00:58:06,333
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Tony. I think you know, to

1213
00:58:06,413 --> 00:58:08,533
Speaker 3: Jeremy's pointing, you said it very well, Matt. But it's

1214
00:58:08,573 --> 00:58:11,573
Speaker 3: about the there's a lot of young people out there

1215
00:58:11,613 --> 00:58:13,773
Speaker 3: who filled their priced out of the current property market.

1216
00:58:14,133 --> 00:58:16,653
Speaker 3: So does that mean they start moving their funds and

1217
00:58:16,733 --> 00:58:19,373
Speaker 3: their money and there whatever they've got set aside into

1218
00:58:19,453 --> 00:58:22,053
Speaker 3: things like the sheer market? And as that good for

1219
00:58:22,213 --> 00:58:24,413
Speaker 3: us as an economy, I mean, Jeremy Wilkinson from Craig's

1220
00:58:24,453 --> 00:58:27,573
Speaker 3: Investment Partners says absolutely, it's a more productive way to

1221
00:58:27,773 --> 00:58:30,653
Speaker 3: use your investment rather than just buying more property. But

1222
00:58:30,773 --> 00:58:31,173
Speaker 3: is he right?

1223
00:58:31,693 --> 00:58:31,813
Speaker 9: Hi?

1224
00:58:31,933 --> 00:58:33,893
Speaker 2: Guys, only your own house is great. But people who

1225
00:58:34,013 --> 00:58:37,093
Speaker 2: have inflated our house prices by investing in multiple, multiple

1226
00:58:37,133 --> 00:58:41,133
Speaker 2: homes say they have benefited society. No, without capital games,

1227
00:58:41,173 --> 00:58:43,853
Speaker 2: they've created a nice nest eggs for themselves and made

1228
00:58:43,893 --> 00:58:46,813
Speaker 2: rent's house prices ridiculous and spoiled the fabric of society.

1229
00:58:46,893 --> 00:58:51,253
Speaker 2: Invest in other things, please, But the problem is with

1230
00:58:51,453 --> 00:58:54,613
Speaker 2: that is I don't know. I think there's absolutely nothing

1231
00:58:54,653 --> 00:58:57,613
Speaker 2: wrong with doing well and then having more and then

1232
00:58:57,653 --> 00:59:00,093
Speaker 2: investing it in something to do better. I mean, that's

1233
00:59:00,293 --> 00:59:01,493
Speaker 2: the isn't that the goal?

1234
00:59:01,733 --> 00:59:01,933
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1235
00:59:02,013 --> 00:59:03,693
Speaker 2: And not all of us will get there, but some

1236
00:59:03,853 --> 00:59:05,773
Speaker 2: of us well, And that doesn't make them bad people

1237
00:59:05,813 --> 00:59:08,213
Speaker 2: because they have done that. We can't all be on

1238
00:59:08,253 --> 00:59:12,373
Speaker 2: the same level. Exact, would be a very strange society. Yeah, Yeah,

1239
00:59:13,093 --> 00:59:15,613
Speaker 2: there has to be some reward for doing really, really

1240
00:59:15,653 --> 00:59:18,333
Speaker 2: well and if that's investing. So the thing is, we

1241
00:59:18,453 --> 00:59:23,613
Speaker 2: accept that people can earn more than the amount that

1242
00:59:23,773 --> 00:59:26,773
Speaker 2: they spend in their one house, their family home, and

1243
00:59:26,813 --> 00:59:28,413
Speaker 2: they might want to invest it somewhere else where. Do

1244
00:59:28,493 --> 00:59:29,253
Speaker 2: we want them to invest that?

1245
00:59:29,373 --> 00:59:31,453
Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number.

1246
00:59:31,533 --> 00:59:34,093
Speaker 3: Call love to hear your thoughts. It is twenty nine

1247
00:59:34,133 --> 00:59:36,533
Speaker 3: to three headlines with Raylene coming.

1248
00:59:36,413 --> 00:59:39,413
Speaker 20: Up us talks.

1249
00:59:39,453 --> 00:59:43,933
Speaker 11: It'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble

1250
00:59:44,053 --> 00:59:47,733
Speaker 11: with a blue bubble key. We jewelry business icon. Sir

1251
00:59:47,813 --> 00:59:51,493
Speaker 11: Michael Hill has died. He was eighty six. He stepped

1252
00:59:51,533 --> 00:59:55,773
Speaker 11: back from business in April for cancer treatment. State Highway

1253
00:59:55,813 --> 00:59:57,973
Speaker 11: one in Northland is down to one lane over the

1254
00:59:58,013 --> 01:00:02,453
Speaker 11: Brinduwin Hills because of slips. Severe weather watchers and warnings

1255
01:00:02,573 --> 01:00:07,453
Speaker 11: over much of the country, including severe thunderstorm watches over Auckland,

1256
01:00:07,733 --> 01:00:11,893
Speaker 11: Great Barry Island and Corimandel until midnight and Northland until

1257
01:00:11,973 --> 01:00:15,853
Speaker 11: six tonight. Police are asking for information on three men

1258
01:00:15,893 --> 01:00:19,693
Speaker 11: who assaulted an autistic person on Sandwich Road in Hamilton

1259
01:00:19,773 --> 01:00:23,093
Speaker 11: Saint Andrew's in March. A photo shows The three are

1260
01:00:23,173 --> 01:00:26,533
Speaker 11: in their late teens or twenties with olive skin and short,

1261
01:00:26,653 --> 01:00:31,013
Speaker 11: dark hair. Five people, including a gunman reported to be

1262
01:00:31,093 --> 01:00:34,173
Speaker 11: a Las Vegas twenty seven year old, have died in

1263
01:00:34,293 --> 01:00:37,933
Speaker 11: central New York after shootings at a Park Avenue office building.

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01:00:38,933 --> 01:00:43,213
Speaker 11: Labor says nurses need more support after criticism from Health

1265
01:00:43,293 --> 01:00:46,053
Speaker 11: New Zealand and the Minister over plans to strike for

1266
01:00:46,293 --> 01:00:52,013
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01:00:52,293 --> 01:00:54,933
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01:00:55,013 --> 01:00:58,613
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01:00:58,733 --> 01:01:00,293
Speaker 11: Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylan. Do we need to break

1271
01:01:01,853 --> 01:01:04,013
Speaker 3: up with our love of property? Jeremy Williamson, he's the

1272
01:01:04,053 --> 01:01:06,773
Speaker 3: head of Private Wealth of Markets at Craig's Investment Partners,

1273
01:01:06,773 --> 01:01:09,293
Speaker 3: said absolutely, we do. When to be pumping our money

1274
01:01:09,453 --> 01:01:11,933
Speaker 3: into productive assets. Do you agree, Matt?

1275
01:01:12,453 --> 01:01:13,533
Speaker 2: What key we saver account?

1276
01:01:13,613 --> 01:01:13,733
Speaker 13: Was that?

1277
01:01:13,853 --> 01:01:17,413
Speaker 2: Because mine has pretty much stagnated and even gone backwards. Yes,

1278
01:01:17,453 --> 01:01:20,693
Speaker 2: so that was Gareth Kernan of Infometrics. He noted that

1279
01:01:20,733 --> 01:01:23,293
Speaker 2: property returns over the last decade have averaged about nine

1280
01:01:23,373 --> 01:01:29,573
Speaker 2: point five percent, comparable to aggressive Keiwi saver funds. So

1281
01:01:30,053 --> 01:01:33,213
Speaker 2: you know, not all Kei sab funds, but aggressive Kei

1282
01:01:33,253 --> 01:01:35,693
Speaker 2: we saver funds. You're on aggressive or passive or.

1283
01:01:36,293 --> 01:01:38,333
Speaker 3: I'm on a growth. I'd love to be an aggressive.

1284
01:01:38,333 --> 01:01:41,133
Speaker 3: I don't think the guys I'm worth offer aggressive. But

1285
01:01:41,453 --> 01:01:44,613
Speaker 3: like old muzz there, mine hasn't done too well. And

1286
01:01:44,653 --> 01:01:46,213
Speaker 3: I've got to say the guys I with put a

1287
01:01:46,253 --> 01:01:48,013
Speaker 3: lot of money into crypto and then it crashed, and

1288
01:01:48,053 --> 01:01:49,253
Speaker 3: it did go so well for me.

1289
01:01:49,653 --> 01:01:52,013
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of crypto, hey, guys, I put two k

1290
01:01:52,253 --> 01:01:54,693
Speaker 2: into a startup crypto at the start of the year.

1291
01:01:55,053 --> 01:01:57,693
Speaker 2: It's now worth thirty seven thousand dollars. Last week of

1292
01:01:57,733 --> 01:01:59,573
Speaker 2: seeing people who took a risk making all the money,

1293
01:01:59,613 --> 01:02:01,293
Speaker 2: so I thought I'd give it a try. Cheers Nick.

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Speaker 2: But of course then you've got people like you, Tyler,

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01:02:03,173 --> 01:02:04,853
Speaker 2: who lost a whole lot of money in crypto, didn't you.

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Speaker 3: Yep, you get a few winners and a lot of

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01:02:06,733 --> 01:02:07,493
Speaker 3: losers like me.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, well, yeah, I mean that that's what

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01:02:10,333 --> 01:02:12,693
Speaker 2: you know. This textas is investing in shares is gambling

1300
01:02:13,093 --> 01:02:16,013
Speaker 2: not security. Well, I mean you could argue that that,

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01:02:17,893 --> 01:02:21,213
Speaker 2: but then again property as well. Yeah, like there's plenty

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01:02:21,213 --> 01:02:22,973
Speaker 2: of people that have bought, you know, had their family

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01:02:23,053 --> 01:02:25,293
Speaker 2: home and then and then use the equity to get

1304
01:02:25,533 --> 01:02:28,173
Speaker 2: a rental property and then that's been a disaster for

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01:02:28,213 --> 01:02:29,533
Speaker 2: them as well. I mean, it's all gambling to a

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01:02:29,613 --> 01:02:31,693
Speaker 2: stain extent, isn't it. There's no guarantees.

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01:02:31,733 --> 01:02:33,613
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. Eight hundred and eighteen eighty is the

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Speaker 3: number two Call Tim, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, good a guys. So yeah, great, great, great topic,

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01:02:41,613 --> 01:02:44,533
Speaker 5: great topic, and I was just going to throw my

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01:02:44,653 --> 01:02:49,333
Speaker 5: two cents with And that's the art of leverage, which

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01:02:50,333 --> 01:02:53,053
Speaker 5: I think it's been picked up before. But you know,

1313
01:02:53,213 --> 01:02:56,733
Speaker 5: you take your deposit, go to the bank for the rest.

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01:02:57,493 --> 01:02:59,933
Speaker 5: And every time you hear of someone talking investments on

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01:02:59,973 --> 01:03:05,613
Speaker 5: the radio, they're talking about property versus shares. You've got

1316
01:03:05,693 --> 01:03:08,253
Speaker 5: to remember you're borrowing a few bit of the bank

1317
01:03:08,453 --> 01:03:11,253
Speaker 5: money and you can make a return on the bank's money.

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01:03:12,173 --> 01:03:13,973
Speaker 5: And so when you do that and you hold the

1319
01:03:14,013 --> 01:03:16,813
Speaker 5: asset for quite some time and then you pay back

1320
01:03:16,893 --> 01:03:20,653
Speaker 5: to the bank, you've actually made an astronomical return on

1321
01:03:20,813 --> 01:03:24,493
Speaker 5: your initial investment. Okay. And so this's the art of

1322
01:03:24,613 --> 01:03:28,613
Speaker 5: leverage of property, and not only that, it's one of

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01:03:28,653 --> 01:03:32,453
Speaker 5: the only investments that actually keeps up with inflation. It's

1324
01:03:32,493 --> 01:03:34,293
Speaker 5: often you know, you're going to put full five percent,

1325
01:03:35,013 --> 01:03:36,813
Speaker 5: going to get four five percent return of the bank,

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01:03:37,453 --> 01:03:40,693
Speaker 5: and you end up with some shock in inflation like

1327
01:03:40,773 --> 01:03:43,213
Speaker 5: we've had in the last sort of five years. Then

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01:03:43,573 --> 01:03:46,973
Speaker 5: your money doesn't keep up. So property does. It does

1329
01:03:47,093 --> 01:03:50,533
Speaker 5: keep up on inflation and some and so it's just

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01:03:50,613 --> 01:03:53,173
Speaker 5: one of those things which people are sort of missing

1331
01:03:53,733 --> 01:03:57,053
Speaker 5: the boat. However, I will say, there are some very

1332
01:03:57,133 --> 01:04:00,613
Speaker 5: bad property investments out there and then there's a good one.

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01:04:00,813 --> 01:04:03,853
Speaker 5: So you know, you've got to shop around and talk

1334
01:04:03,973 --> 01:04:06,733
Speaker 5: talk to others. And you know, I'm a big believer

1335
01:04:06,853 --> 01:04:12,333
Speaker 5: of you know, hooking up into clubs and property investor

1336
01:04:12,373 --> 01:04:14,493
Speaker 5: associations and those sort of things, because then you could

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01:04:14,493 --> 01:04:18,413
Speaker 5: talk to like minded people who can help steer in

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01:04:18,453 --> 01:04:19,053
Speaker 5: the right direction.

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Speaker 2: What about a situation though, where say you've got the

1340
01:04:21,853 --> 01:04:24,733
Speaker 2: family home that's sort of goods and a good stead

1341
01:04:25,173 --> 01:04:28,013
Speaker 2: and then use that equity to invest in a business

1342
01:04:29,093 --> 01:04:30,333
Speaker 2: as opposed to property.

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01:04:31,173 --> 01:04:34,533
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can do that, and that's great, but I

1344
01:04:34,613 --> 01:04:39,493
Speaker 5: would say, you know, you want them separated from an

1345
01:04:39,533 --> 01:04:42,933
Speaker 5: association in a sense, so if your business goes tits up,

1346
01:04:43,013 --> 01:04:46,773
Speaker 5: it doesn't you know, wipe you out in the family home.

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01:04:47,853 --> 01:04:51,733
Speaker 2: But it's all leverage on the so a business, a

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01:04:51,813 --> 01:04:53,973
Speaker 2: business is more likely to go tip's up, as you

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01:04:54,053 --> 01:04:55,933
Speaker 2: say to them, than your house.

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Speaker 5: Yes, because you know it's all about cash flow and

1351
01:05:01,613 --> 01:05:06,973
Speaker 5: care shrow cares flow, and I think if the something

1352
01:05:07,173 --> 01:05:12,173
Speaker 5: is wrong with your business, you know you're often buying

1353
01:05:12,213 --> 01:05:13,973
Speaker 5: something and then reselling it and things like that. You've

1354
01:05:13,973 --> 01:05:16,613
Speaker 5: got stock and you've got a lot more worrying concerns

1355
01:05:16,653 --> 01:05:18,853
Speaker 5: with property, you can just hold it and hold it

1356
01:05:18,853 --> 01:05:21,333
Speaker 5: and hold it right out the rough times, like right

1357
01:05:21,413 --> 01:05:23,973
Speaker 5: now it's the rough, ride it out and you wait

1358
01:05:24,013 --> 01:05:25,653
Speaker 5: till things a bit better then you can you always

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01:05:25,653 --> 01:05:27,333
Speaker 5: sell it. Probably it is pretty liquid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean that's true your business. It's

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Speaker 2: difficult to ride them out when you've got staff costs

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01:05:33,053 --> 01:05:36,373
Speaker 2: and rent and all the expenses of a business. If

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Speaker 2: a business is doing badly, then then it falls off

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01:05:38,613 --> 01:05:39,813
Speaker 2: the cliff pretty quickly, doesn't it.

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Speaker 5: Ye one hundred percent, But I mean now some bad

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01:05:43,213 --> 01:05:45,613
Speaker 5: and property investments too, So you're just got to get

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01:05:45,693 --> 01:05:48,253
Speaker 5: good advice so that you know you're buying something and

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01:05:48,893 --> 01:05:50,133
Speaker 5: focusing on a bit of Keshler.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but just on the business argument, does that not

1370
01:05:53,773 --> 01:05:56,173
Speaker 3: make it logical to try and pull some levers at

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01:05:56,213 --> 01:05:59,253
Speaker 3: the government level or policy level, to allow people to

1372
01:05:59,413 --> 01:06:02,813
Speaker 3: make a punt and try their hand at investing in business,

1373
01:06:02,933 --> 01:06:05,973
Speaker 3: to make it not there's no guarantees here, but to

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01:06:06,013 --> 01:06:08,293
Speaker 3: make it a bit more secure, to try and shift

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01:06:08,493 --> 01:06:10,813
Speaker 3: that balance, because, no doubt about it, when people create

1376
01:06:10,893 --> 01:06:14,493
Speaker 3: businesses in this country, it creates jobs, it generates wealth,

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01:06:14,853 --> 01:06:16,573
Speaker 3: It is more productive than a property.

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Speaker 5: Well, i'd argue the fact that in order to get

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01:06:23,533 --> 01:06:26,413
Speaker 5: a job you got to Maslow's triangle of needs. You've

1380
01:06:26,413 --> 01:06:28,253
Speaker 5: got to go a little bit step further. You've got

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01:06:28,293 --> 01:06:30,773
Speaker 5: to have a roof over your head first, and that

1382
01:06:30,893 --> 01:06:33,853
Speaker 5: if the government doesn't want to invest into housing, you

1383
01:06:33,933 --> 01:06:36,973
Speaker 5: know you want a roof over your head so your

1384
01:06:37,053 --> 01:06:39,493
Speaker 5: kids can get a good education. And it all starts

1385
01:06:39,533 --> 01:06:42,053
Speaker 5: a little bit further down the chain, and so you

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01:06:42,213 --> 01:06:44,533
Speaker 5: need those people, You need proper investors out there to

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01:06:44,773 --> 01:06:47,533
Speaker 5: buy those houses, because not everyone's going to want to

1388
01:06:47,533 --> 01:06:49,253
Speaker 5: buy a house. A lot of people rent, a lot

1389
01:06:49,253 --> 01:06:52,533
Speaker 5: of people want to rent. And if you take the

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01:06:52,653 --> 01:06:58,093
Speaker 5: incentives away to invest into property or create an uneven

1391
01:06:58,373 --> 01:07:00,133
Speaker 5: balance field, is what you're trying to talk about with

1392
01:07:00,213 --> 01:07:02,493
Speaker 5: a tech system, you'll just end up with a supply

1393
01:07:02,573 --> 01:07:05,053
Speaker 5: and demand disaster. And that's sort of what we experienced

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01:07:05,733 --> 01:07:07,693
Speaker 5: under last government when rents met up on hundred and

1395
01:07:07,693 --> 01:07:09,693
Speaker 5: eighty bucks a week and that's just untelligible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting thoughts. Thank you very much for giving us

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01:07:12,453 --> 01:07:14,773
Speaker 3: a buzz. Tem Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1398
01:07:15,053 --> 01:07:16,973
Speaker 3: is the number to call love to hear your thoughts.

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01:07:17,093 --> 01:07:20,653
Speaker 3: Is there a better investment in twenty twenty five than property?

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01:07:21,013 --> 01:07:23,533
Speaker 3: It is nineteen to three back very shortly.

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01:07:24,093 --> 01:07:26,813
Speaker 2: Up to seventeen percent of New Zealand's greenhouse gas emissions

1402
01:07:26,853 --> 01:07:29,813
Speaker 2: come from transport, so going electric is one promising method

1403
01:07:29,933 --> 01:07:31,653
Speaker 2: of moving to a lower carbon future.

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01:07:31,693 --> 01:07:34,773
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Speaker 3: get fifty percent off your variable day rate between nine

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01:07:38,013 --> 01:07:40,853
Speaker 3: pm and seven am charger EV crank, the heating, run

1407
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Speaker 3: the dryer, all at a reduced rate.

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Speaker 2: Plus, Genesis Energy has partnered with New Zealand's largest EV

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Speaker 2: charging network, charge Nets, so going on the road doesn't

1410
01:07:48,573 --> 01:07:49,853
Speaker 2: need to make you nervous.

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Speaker 3: hundred points across New Zealand and pay like thear at

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls

1419
01:08:15,773 --> 01:08:19,532
Speaker 1: on Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons news Talk said, be.

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01:08:19,813 --> 01:08:21,612
Speaker 3: It is a quarter to three. Is there a better

1421
01:08:21,693 --> 01:08:23,933
Speaker 3: investment than property in twenty twenty five?

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01:08:24,492 --> 01:08:28,172
Speaker 2: Ben says, tits up. I'm offended, more chauvinist at rhetoric

1423
01:08:28,452 --> 01:08:30,333
Speaker 2: leveled at woman. It's twenty twenty five.

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01:08:30,412 --> 01:08:34,492
Speaker 3: Grow up, excuse me. I have some pretty good you

1425
01:08:34,612 --> 01:08:36,253
Speaker 3: know what, You've got breasts too?

1426
01:08:36,452 --> 01:08:39,252
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I've got nipples.

1427
01:08:40,452 --> 01:08:42,213
Speaker 3: You're looking pretty trim these days. You used to to

1428
01:08:42,293 --> 01:08:43,892
Speaker 3: be honest, but you're looking pretty trim these days.

1429
01:08:44,013 --> 01:08:47,012
Speaker 2: What's the line, I've got nipples? Can you milk me? Actually?

1430
01:08:47,053 --> 01:08:48,293
Speaker 2: Ben says, just getting love to show?

1431
01:08:48,293 --> 01:08:48,572
Speaker 9: How do you?

1432
01:08:48,692 --> 01:08:48,812
Speaker 21: Oh?

1433
01:08:48,933 --> 01:08:49,173
Speaker 3: Thank you?

1434
01:08:49,253 --> 01:08:49,412
Speaker 18: Ben?

1435
01:08:49,572 --> 01:08:51,053
Speaker 3: I love you too, mate, love you too. Kind of

1436
01:08:51,053 --> 01:08:53,412
Speaker 3: the text, Yeah, right back to this conversation. It is

1437
01:08:53,452 --> 01:08:55,812
Speaker 3: a great conversation. Is there a better investment than property.

1438
01:08:55,853 --> 01:08:57,812
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty five, love to hear your thoughts. O

1439
01:08:57,853 --> 01:09:01,093
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number two call.

1440
01:09:01,372 --> 01:09:04,772
Speaker 2: Robin says, please stop referring to property as an unproductive investment.

1441
01:09:04,853 --> 01:09:07,572
Speaker 2: The property industry alone, covering residential and commercial development, real

1442
01:09:07,652 --> 01:09:12,213
Speaker 2: estate services, and property investment, contributes approximately fifty point two billion,

1443
01:09:12,452 --> 01:09:14,972
Speaker 2: which equates to about fifteen percent of New Zealand CDP

1444
01:09:15,213 --> 01:09:18,492
Speaker 2: when you factor in associated sectors construction, finance, insurance and

1445
01:09:18,572 --> 01:09:19,692
Speaker 2: various supplies, et cetera.

1446
01:09:20,452 --> 01:09:21,253
Speaker 3: That is a fair point.

1447
01:09:21,412 --> 01:09:23,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so maybe it's not the right to say

1448
01:09:23,412 --> 01:09:28,572
Speaker 2: it's unproductive. But so let's say instead of investing in

1449
01:09:28,933 --> 01:09:32,492
Speaker 2: an investment property, perhaps you invest in shares, Perhaps you

1450
01:09:32,612 --> 01:09:37,053
Speaker 2: invest in a business. The argument is that we could

1451
01:09:37,772 --> 01:09:42,812
Speaker 2: grow other sectors of our economy and make, you know,

1452
01:09:43,213 --> 01:09:47,532
Speaker 2: employee more people in different areas if people invested outside

1453
01:09:47,572 --> 01:09:48,492
Speaker 2: of property a little bit more.

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01:09:48,652 --> 01:09:50,372
Speaker 3: Exactly what do you say, though, Oh, E one hundred

1455
01:09:50,372 --> 01:09:52,213
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

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01:09:52,772 --> 01:09:53,092
Speaker 2: Colin?

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01:09:55,053 --> 01:10:00,293
Speaker 8: Yeah, hey, discussing your last fella about and you guys

1458
01:10:00,333 --> 01:10:02,852
Speaker 8: starting a business. If you start a business and you

1459
01:10:02,973 --> 01:10:05,772
Speaker 8: have to rent premises, do you know how you go

1460
01:10:05,853 --> 01:10:08,093
Speaker 8: about that. No, you're going to put something up as

1461
01:10:08,093 --> 01:10:09,852
Speaker 8: a gain guarantee that you pay the rent. So the

1462
01:10:09,893 --> 01:10:13,572
Speaker 8: average person puts up their house, that business goes tits up.

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01:10:14,293 --> 01:10:16,452
Speaker 9: They're homeless and a.

1464
01:10:16,492 --> 01:10:22,213
Speaker 2: Story, right and so pretty and not pretty.

1465
01:10:22,173 --> 01:10:24,812
Speaker 9: And so every person doesn't do very well.

1466
01:10:26,612 --> 01:10:29,492
Speaker 2: So as opposed to if you have a little bit

1467
01:10:29,492 --> 01:10:31,572
Speaker 2: of extra money sea committee in your house and you

1468
01:10:31,772 --> 01:10:34,772
Speaker 2: buy a rental property, you're saying there's less risk than that.

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01:10:36,973 --> 01:10:42,013
Speaker 8: No, actually made good money out of houses accidentally. But

1470
01:10:42,253 --> 01:10:46,213
Speaker 8: if you put the average house deposit fifty thousand bucks

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01:10:46,812 --> 01:10:50,173
Speaker 8: into a Standard and Poors five hundred, which is a

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01:10:50,372 --> 01:10:54,133
Speaker 8: American group of shares which are picked, they are not

1473
01:10:54,293 --> 01:10:56,333
Speaker 8: the best five hundred. They are what the people who

1474
01:10:56,452 --> 01:10:59,372
Speaker 8: picked them think is the best five hundred. If you

1475
01:10:59,492 --> 01:11:02,053
Speaker 8: put fifty thousand in there for the last fifty years

1476
01:11:02,452 --> 01:11:05,133
Speaker 8: you're fifty and put nothing more and just didn't take

1477
01:11:05,133 --> 01:11:07,372
Speaker 8: any out, you'd have forty million bucks.

1478
01:11:08,612 --> 01:11:11,732
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Look, and that is a fair point. When

1479
01:11:11,732 --> 01:11:13,692
Speaker 3: people look at the rate of return on the sheer

1480
01:11:13,772 --> 01:11:16,572
Speaker 3: market over a long enough length of time versus the

1481
01:11:16,612 --> 01:11:19,933
Speaker 3: property market, the calculations are pretty clear, right Colin. But

1482
01:11:20,093 --> 01:11:23,492
Speaker 3: there is yes, you know. I'm thinking about people say

1483
01:11:23,532 --> 01:11:25,812
Speaker 3: they've retired and they've got a bit of money set aside,

1484
01:11:25,853 --> 01:11:28,412
Speaker 3: and they're looking whether where to invest there to make

1485
01:11:28,452 --> 01:11:31,372
Speaker 3: sure they've got enough to see out their days and comfort.

1486
01:11:31,772 --> 01:11:33,933
Speaker 3: A lot of people, quite rightly, may be fearful that

1487
01:11:34,173 --> 01:11:36,492
Speaker 3: their window is not long enough, and there's ups and

1488
01:11:36,572 --> 01:11:38,532
Speaker 3: downs in the market, and there may come a down

1489
01:11:39,173 --> 01:11:41,692
Speaker 3: that will take a big chunk of that change just

1490
01:11:41,812 --> 01:11:42,412
Speaker 3: when they need it.

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01:11:44,293 --> 01:11:47,093
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I don't put fifty thousand in, don't put

1492
01:11:47,133 --> 01:11:49,572
Speaker 8: in the house deposit and wait forty years put in

1493
01:11:49,692 --> 01:11:53,213
Speaker 8: ten percent of a house deposit. I honestly don't believe

1494
01:11:53,253 --> 01:11:56,093
Speaker 8: in owning houses, but I've made some good money out

1495
01:11:56,133 --> 01:11:57,333
Speaker 8: of extent by owning a couple.

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01:11:59,133 --> 01:12:01,772
Speaker 2: Look a few Colin, and thank you for your call.

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01:12:01,812 --> 01:12:02,492
Speaker 2: You have a great day.

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01:12:02,893 --> 01:12:04,892
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1499
01:12:04,973 --> 01:12:08,293
Speaker 3: to call? Is property the best investment? In twenty twenty five.

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01:12:08,412 --> 01:12:09,492
Speaker 3: I've loved to hear from you.

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01:12:10,372 --> 01:12:12,293
Speaker 2: And we've We've got a call from Doug that will

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01:12:12,333 --> 01:12:14,932
Speaker 2: go to next History proofs overtime shares will grow better

1503
01:12:14,973 --> 01:12:17,053
Speaker 2: than property. So he's a shears guy. We'll talk to

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01:12:17,173 --> 01:12:17,492
Speaker 2: him next.

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01:12:17,652 --> 01:12:21,293
Speaker 3: It is eleven to three, the issues that affect you

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01:12:21,652 --> 01:12:23,093
Speaker 3: and a bit of fun along the way.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk zed B.

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Speaker 3: News Talk z B, Good afternoon to you. Is there

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Speaker 3: a better investment than property? In twenty twenty five oh

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the numbered call?

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Speaker 2: Have made a lot of money. You're renovating and investing

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Speaker 2: in houses, but now diversitying into shares, et cetera. Too

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Speaker 2: hard to move the properties in recent years and returns

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Speaker 2: aren't great. I mean it might just happen that people start,

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Speaker 2: over time moving out of property as it becomes less

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Speaker 2: of a guarantee. I mean, property for the long time

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Speaker 2: has been you know, ups and downs. They talk about

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Speaker 2: the seven year cycle, but over time, property has been

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Speaker 2: close the closest thing to a guarantee. I's been pretty

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Speaker 2: good that you're going to do that, You're going to

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Speaker 2: do Okay, if that changes, then maybe the money will

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Speaker 2: naturally move into other areas. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I know a lot of people that haven't managed

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Speaker 3: to get into the housing market yet are on the

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Speaker 3: ladder and they are moving into shares. And they started

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Speaker 3: that with the likes of Cheesy's and those other platforms

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Speaker 3: made it really easy for them to, you know, take

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Speaker 3: a gamble on some of the shares and stocks they like,

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Speaker 3: lose a bit of money, figure it out, and then

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Speaker 3: get into index funds. And I think you're right. I

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Speaker 3: think naturally it's just gonna shift. If you can't get

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Speaker 3: into property, you'll find other ways to generate wealth in

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Speaker 3: the sheer market for a lot of people is where

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Speaker 3: it's at.

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Speaker 2: How many you know, punishing day traders like me that

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Speaker 2: do it for fun. Sure, over time we will definitely

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Speaker 2: lose money compared to someone that just puts their money

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Speaker 2: slowly into indexed funds.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh man, I'm such a mug that I lost

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Speaker 3: so much on Tesla. And I love Tesla, but I

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Speaker 3: just get in at the wrong time, sell at the

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Speaker 3: wrong time. I'm a useless day trader.

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Speaker 21: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you get if you get in, I mean

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Speaker 2: some of the companies that you get into that make

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Speaker 2: the most money are reasonably evil. Yeah companies. But you know,

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Speaker 2: an ETF is where it's at, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the easy one oh one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: ten eightyc number to call. Dug history proves you believe

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Speaker 3: that she is a better option over time.

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Speaker 10: Well, I'm not saying I'm proving. But Mary Holm, who's

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Speaker 10: independent and writes in the Herald every weekend, guy's been

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Speaker 10: writing for a long time. She has some fantastic analysis

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Speaker 10: on basically saying, look, it's a mug's game trying to pictures.

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Speaker 10: You're better off to go into a low fee index fund.

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Speaker 10: It's not a key we savor if he's just a

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Speaker 10: shadow fun because what you can control is the fees

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Speaker 10: you pay. And let the market an index. If Frish

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Speaker 10: and Piker is high, then it will have a larger waiting.

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Speaker 10: Or if Tesla is high, Tyler that will have a

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Speaker 10: higher waiting, or if Gold is higher. Let them the experts,

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Speaker 10: because we all think we're experts, but we're not really

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Speaker 10: experts because we're in our jobs. Right, John t was

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Speaker 10: good enough to do it. In terms of the property,

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Speaker 10: we all love property because we can touch it, we

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Speaker 10: can go and see our tenants, we can renovate it,

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Speaker 10: and yes, we get leverage other parts of the world.

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Speaker 10: We can also get leverage if we really wanted. What

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Speaker 10: I would be saying along with the guy from Craig's

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Speaker 10: Investment Partners and Sam Stubs from simplicity. We have a

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Speaker 10: lot of money that could be used better. What would

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Speaker 10: it look like if fifty percent of our key we

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Speaker 10: Saver funds were invested in New Zealand sixty billion dollars?

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Speaker 10: We wouldn't have an infrastructure shortage, guys. We'd have great roads,

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Speaker 10: We'd have three harbor crossings. But instead we're go and

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Speaker 10: invest in companies like mcquarie Bank or Mcquarie Infrastructure in

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Speaker 10: the ASX, who build all these roads in Britain, Sydney

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Speaker 10: and Melbourne and water.

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Speaker 3: I love the idea, Doug, but is there a guarantee

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Speaker 3: that investing my key we Savor into New Zealand projects

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Speaker 3: is going to make me as much money as investing

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Speaker 3: in the s and P five hundred.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Tyler, risk and re would go hand in hand.

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Speaker 10: You took a risk on Tesla, and my friend, it goes.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm questioning you, Doug. You're clearly

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Speaker 3: better at this.

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Speaker 1: Than I am.

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Speaker 10: I don't know why we have this debate. You know,

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Speaker 10: do we want to invest in New Zealand well?

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Speaker 2: And also, and also argue arguably, if you haven't take

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Speaker 2: a holistic approach, if we're the key saver is investing

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Speaker 2: in infrastructure in New Zealand, then the poll of New

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Speaker 2: Zealand grows and our taxes could potentially come down, you know,

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Speaker 2: rather than us just get.

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Speaker 10: It completely guys, Like, if we think about it and

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Speaker 10: we think about all the forestry residues and the slash,

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Speaker 10: what could we do with that if that was being

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Speaker 10: used for energy in New Zealand, we could have the

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Speaker 10: equivalent of the Scandinavian economy. That's simple.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think if you cool, Doug.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you make some very valid points, Doug,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of people would agree with you. Just

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Speaker 3: quit a couple of texts before we hit the news. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 3: perhaps we do need to direct a lot of investors

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Speaker 3: away from property. But to do what the last the

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Speaker 3: government did was worse than criminal. To tax retrospectively by

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Speaker 3: taking away text deductions on interest on loans that already

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Speaker 3: exist when interest got over to seven percent was a disgrace.

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Speaker 2: From Rod Maris is not everyone will make money with

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Speaker 2: shares over say a ten or fifteen year period. You

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Speaker 2: need luck and nouse and good decisions. But with property,

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Speaker 2: anyone over the time will make money. Yeah, not everyone,

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Speaker 2: but also the thing is, yeah that you know, you

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Speaker 2: might not need to have the nouse, but if you

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Speaker 2: if you invest in an ETS, then then then you're

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Speaker 2: investing the people that do have the nouse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very true, great discussion. Thank you very much to

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Speaker 3: everyone who called in text on that one. Coming up

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Speaker 3: after three o'clock. What is the best way to get

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Speaker 3: into shape fast? Looking forward to your thoughts on that one.

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Speaker 3: O eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

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Speaker 3: call if you want to send a text. Nine to

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Speaker 3: ninety two New Sport and Weather on its way. You're

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Speaker 3: listening to Matton Tyler close to Mason.

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Speaker 1: Your new homes are insateful and entertaining. Talk It's Mattie

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Speaker 1: and Taylor afternoons on news Talk Sevvy.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. You welcome back into the show. It

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Speaker 3: is seven past three and.

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Speaker 2: You've probably heard that jewelry pioneereer Sir Michael Hill has died.

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Speaker 2: The eighty six year old founded and grew Michael Hill

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Speaker 2: Jewelers from humble beginnings and fund aid to become a

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Speaker 2: global retail jewelry brand spanning brand spanning Australia and New

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Speaker 2: Zealand and Canada. He stepped back from the business in

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Speaker 2: April to undergo cancer treatment. So yeah, passed away at

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Speaker 2: eighty six. And as I was saying before, he's one

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Speaker 2: of those people that has just been omnipresent in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand life for a very long time. And his story

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Speaker 2: is very, very famous from being at forty years old

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Speaker 2: and coming up with a completely different way of doing

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Speaker 2: jewelry that hadn't been done anywhere in the world and

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Speaker 2: just exploded and an example of how you can change

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Speaker 2: things at the age of forty.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely inspirational.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and of course a huge supporter of the arts.

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Speaker 2: And you know, here we go, this is what you

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Speaker 2: think of.

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Speaker 17: Hello, Michael Hill Jeweler, don't miss my great annual sale.

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Speaker 17: These diamond eternity rings, great buying at three hundred and

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Speaker 17: six dollars are now just ninety nine dollars. Silver bracelets

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Speaker 17: with poor charms, we're sixty five dollars now twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: Be there, Michael Hill Jeweler. It's so iconic. It's a

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Speaker 3: really good deal. By the way, I'm going to.

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Speaker 2: Say, yeah, well that's from nineteen ninety so I'm sure

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Speaker 2: if it don't go into Michael Hill Drawler and ask

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Speaker 2: for that deal. It's thirty five years old. But my

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Speaker 2: good friend Bill is on the line here and he's

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Speaker 2: he's had some dealings with Michael Hill back in the day.

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Speaker 2: Welcome the show, Bill.

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Speaker 14: Curtin, Did I, Matt, could I Tyler?

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Speaker 10: How you going?

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Speaker 14: That's SATA news.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's sort of one of those things that's

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Speaker 2: just been in the background of New Zealand for the

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Speaker 2: longest time. Just Michael Hill jeweler. Yeah, iconic.

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Speaker 22: You have to yeah, you have to remember that back

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Speaker 22: in the eighties when he started his business, New Zealand

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Speaker 22: had finally, you know, sort of anyone older than fifty

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Speaker 22: will know that New Zealand is finally emerged from a

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Speaker 22: centrally planned, you know, Soviet style economy under Rob Muldoon,

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Speaker 22: and so businessmen like him, business businessmen and women like him,

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Speaker 22: they sort of all came popping out of the bottle

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Speaker 22: like corks, you know, they were suddenly able to do

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Speaker 22: things like that, and he was one of them, and

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Speaker 22: you know, made quite a fortunate as a result. But

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Speaker 22: I had just started my career in broadcasting in nineteen

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Speaker 22: eighty four at the age of seventeen, up and Fangada

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Speaker 22: at a radio station called KWLE CFM, and because Michael

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Speaker 22: had his primary residence up there, he would come into

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Speaker 22: our new studios and quite often record commercials there because

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Speaker 22: you know, that made sense. He was sort of not

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Speaker 22: too far away and.

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Speaker 19: He could he could do them there, and we would duplicate.

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Speaker 22: Them and send them off to other radio stations around

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Speaker 22: the country. So he was very nice, and I met

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Speaker 22: him a few times when he came in. But I

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Speaker 22: have to admit something.

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Speaker 10: That you know, that I did.

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Speaker 22: He without without necessarily running it past anyone.

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Speaker 14: I was, you know, because I was I was a

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Speaker 14: junior copyright. I felt that his Yeah, I.

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Speaker 22: Felt that his voice was just a little bit squeaky,

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Speaker 22: and and so what I did was is I got

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Speaker 22: the pitch shift on the two track recorder, the analog

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Speaker 22: two track recorder, and I turned it up slightly so

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Speaker 22: that when you played it back a.

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Speaker 14: Real speed, it sounded a bit slower and.

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Speaker 22: Therefore a bit deeper. And that went on for a

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Speaker 22: little while until until it didn't.

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Speaker 14: I don't know whether he knew about that.

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Speaker 3: But.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, what was it?

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Speaker 11: Was it?

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Speaker 2: So this is where it ended up. His voice here

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Speaker 2: be there, Michael Hills Jeweler.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, you can hear it, you can hear it, but

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Speaker 22: our commercials were not quite and there.

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Speaker 14: You know, they were just sort of shipped down slowly.

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Speaker 2: It's so iconic and for him to be a businessman,

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Speaker 2: and it's sort of a confidence thing, as you say,

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Speaker 2: like as the as the nation sort of became more

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Speaker 2: confident into the eighties and business people came through. But

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Speaker 2: to be the face of Michael Hill Jewelers. Was was

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Speaker 2: that odd at the time because.

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Speaker 14: It just well, yeah, man.

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Speaker 22: That was the other thing is that in those days

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Speaker 22: you would you were positively discouraged not to read your

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Speaker 22: own ads. That was quite you know, that was quite

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Speaker 22: quite radical.

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Speaker 19: To do that.

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01:22:55,692 --> 01:22:58,812
Speaker 14: You just you didn't you didn't do it, but he did.

1722
01:22:58,893 --> 01:23:01,053
Speaker 22: And then and then you know, time went on and

1723
01:23:01,532 --> 01:23:04,692
Speaker 22: today have Adrian and John from Magnu Spenner and everyone

1724
01:23:04,933 --> 01:23:05,732
Speaker 22: does their own ads.

1725
01:23:05,732 --> 01:23:07,692
Speaker 14: But it was it was a bit of a departure

1726
01:23:07,692 --> 01:23:08,173
Speaker 14: in those days.

1727
01:23:08,173 --> 01:23:10,452
Speaker 3: It's yeah, what was he like when he came into

1728
01:23:10,492 --> 01:23:13,173
Speaker 3: the studio Buill? Did he have that confidence? Clearly he

1729
01:23:13,293 --> 01:23:15,532
Speaker 3: backed himself as a bit of a hustler as well.

1730
01:23:15,652 --> 01:23:17,213
Speaker 3: Was that the vibe you got that this was a

1731
01:23:17,293 --> 01:23:20,452
Speaker 3: guy who backs himself wholeheartedly? He's going to sell the

1732
01:23:20,572 --> 01:23:23,812
Speaker 3: crap out out of his jewelry business, and that's arguably

1733
01:23:23,893 --> 01:23:24,572
Speaker 3: what got him ahead.

1734
01:23:25,812 --> 01:23:28,053
Speaker 14: Oh no, I never noticed that. He was just very

1735
01:23:28,293 --> 01:23:30,652
Speaker 14: he was just very friendly, very kind and knew what

1736
01:23:30,732 --> 01:23:31,253
Speaker 14: he wanted.

1737
01:23:31,973 --> 01:23:34,253
Speaker 22: And you know, he was pretty much in and out

1738
01:23:34,333 --> 01:23:36,852
Speaker 22: like a robber's dog and very busy, busy guy.

1739
01:23:36,973 --> 01:23:37,892
Speaker 10: But no, he was nice.

1740
01:23:37,933 --> 01:23:38,372
Speaker 7: I liked him.

1741
01:23:38,412 --> 01:23:40,572
Speaker 2: Well, it's an incredible story to you know, be forty

1742
01:23:40,652 --> 01:23:42,892
Speaker 2: years old, as I was saying, before change the way

1743
01:23:43,692 --> 01:23:46,612
Speaker 2: jewelry shops are run up there in fang it Ay

1744
01:23:47,253 --> 01:23:52,492
Speaker 2: then just explode to yachts and golf courses and giving

1745
01:23:52,612 --> 01:23:54,412
Speaker 2: that much to the arts. I mean it was an

1746
01:23:54,492 --> 01:23:55,372
Speaker 2: unlikely arc.

1747
01:23:55,492 --> 01:23:58,492
Speaker 14: You've got to say, absolutely, you know.

1748
01:23:58,612 --> 01:24:01,213
Speaker 22: But like I said, here's one of many people who

1749
01:24:01,812 --> 01:24:06,213
Speaker 22: found the new environment in the mid eighties, that whole

1750
01:24:06,293 --> 01:24:09,972
Speaker 22: revolution where New Zealand completely changed within space.

1751
01:24:10,053 --> 01:24:11,892
Speaker 14: I mean I remember funk it at that time.

1752
01:24:11,933 --> 01:24:15,213
Speaker 22: I mean I only school, but just there was just

1753
01:24:15,333 --> 01:24:19,492
Speaker 22: development happening everywhere, you know, like there was, and it

1754
01:24:19,652 --> 01:24:23,532
Speaker 22: was repeated all around New Zealand where suddenly people could

1755
01:24:24,333 --> 01:24:27,893
Speaker 22: you know, borrow but the regulations were removed.

1756
01:24:28,053 --> 01:24:30,053
Speaker 14: I mean, yeah, New Zealand was.

1757
01:24:30,053 --> 01:24:34,612
Speaker 22: A very very different place before the Roger Douglas David

1758
01:24:34,692 --> 01:24:36,532
Speaker 22: Longi government, that's for sure.

1759
01:24:36,893 --> 01:24:39,293
Speaker 14: And so these guys, these guys just they had the

1760
01:24:39,372 --> 01:24:41,452
Speaker 14: keys to the kingdom and off they went. It was

1761
01:24:41,532 --> 01:24:44,253
Speaker 14: all not just not to the same extent.

1762
01:24:44,372 --> 01:24:48,133
Speaker 22: But in Soviet Russia when they got rid of communism,

1763
01:24:48,452 --> 01:24:51,093
Speaker 22: no one really knew what to do, and.

1764
01:24:52,732 --> 01:24:53,852
Speaker 14: Maybe not quite as extreme.

1765
01:24:53,893 --> 01:24:56,892
Speaker 22: But in New Zealand, the people that did ever bit

1766
01:24:56,933 --> 01:24:58,893
Speaker 22: of get up and go, they just went for it

1767
01:24:59,253 --> 01:25:00,852
Speaker 22: and did all sorts of cool things.

1768
01:25:01,173 --> 01:25:04,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was all porschas being abandoned on the Harbor

1769
01:25:04,812 --> 01:25:08,652
Speaker 2: Bridge and then huge stock market crash and any seven

1770
01:25:08,692 --> 01:25:10,452
Speaker 2: and then since then we'll pull our head back in

1771
01:25:10,492 --> 01:25:14,213
Speaker 2: and just invested in property. Going back to the previous hour, Hey,

1772
01:25:14,333 --> 01:25:15,452
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you so much.

1773
01:25:15,532 --> 01:25:15,692
Speaker 9: Bill.

1774
01:25:15,772 --> 01:25:16,372
Speaker 2: Good to chat to you.

1775
01:25:17,173 --> 01:25:18,013
Speaker 14: Good to get chat mate.

1776
01:25:18,053 --> 01:25:20,732
Speaker 3: See yeah, go well mate, what a great story. Right

1777
01:25:20,853 --> 01:25:24,492
Speaker 3: coming up, after we play some messages, we want to

1778
01:25:24,492 --> 01:25:26,253
Speaker 3: have a chat about the best way to get into

1779
01:25:26,612 --> 01:25:29,612
Speaker 3: shape fast. I'll tell you a little bit more about

1780
01:25:29,652 --> 01:25:32,173
Speaker 3: that very shortly. But O one hundred and eighty ten

1781
01:25:32,213 --> 01:25:35,572
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. It is fourteen past three.

1782
01:25:36,293 --> 01:25:39,572
Speaker 3: Stalk Zebby seventeen past three. So what is the best

1783
01:25:39,612 --> 01:25:42,253
Speaker 3: way to get into shape fast? No doubt about it.

1784
01:25:42,532 --> 01:25:44,372
Speaker 3: And I'm happy to admit I've let myself go a

1785
01:25:44,412 --> 01:25:46,052
Speaker 3: little bit over the last eight months.

1786
01:25:46,213 --> 01:25:48,093
Speaker 2: No need to admit it, Tyler. I can see from here.

1787
01:25:48,333 --> 01:25:50,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank god it's radio. I mean the camera is

1788
01:25:50,333 --> 01:25:55,133
Speaker 3: always rappling. I have been consuming a lot of pies.

1789
01:25:55,173 --> 01:25:56,652
Speaker 3: We get a lot of freebes here, which is nice

1790
01:25:56,732 --> 01:25:58,213
Speaker 3: working with you, mate. You know, you feed me some

1791
01:25:58,253 --> 01:25:58,932
Speaker 3: pies the other day.

1792
01:25:59,333 --> 01:26:02,772
Speaker 2: You're going to the Bakell Supreme Pile Awards, Absolute Pinnacle

1793
01:26:02,812 --> 01:26:04,092
Speaker 2: of Pies tonight exactly.

1794
01:26:04,173 --> 01:26:06,572
Speaker 3: But I was thinking as I was driving in today,

1795
01:26:06,652 --> 01:26:08,652
Speaker 3: I need to get back in the game. I need

1796
01:26:08,732 --> 01:26:11,213
Speaker 3: to sort myself out and I need to get back

1797
01:26:11,253 --> 01:26:12,812
Speaker 3: into shape, and I need to do it fast. So

1798
01:26:12,853 --> 01:26:14,772
Speaker 3: I raised it with you before we started the show,

1799
01:26:15,333 --> 01:26:17,253
Speaker 3: and it's a good conversation. So here are my list

1800
01:26:17,333 --> 01:26:19,133
Speaker 3: of demands for what I need going forward.

1801
01:26:20,093 --> 01:26:22,173
Speaker 2: And so you want to crowdsource this on to the

1802
01:26:22,293 --> 01:26:25,213
Speaker 2: good listeners of news Talk ZB one hundred and eighty

1803
01:26:25,293 --> 01:26:25,852
Speaker 2: ten eighty.

1804
01:26:26,053 --> 01:26:27,732
Speaker 3: There's a lot of options out there. So here are

1805
01:26:27,772 --> 01:26:30,412
Speaker 3: my list of demands. I want it fast, so I

1806
01:26:30,492 --> 01:26:32,333
Speaker 3: want to get into it pretty quickly. I want it

1807
01:26:32,372 --> 01:26:34,812
Speaker 3: to hit most, if not all, of my muscle groups,

1808
01:26:35,133 --> 01:26:37,372
Speaker 3: so that's a big one. I want a one stop shop.

1809
01:26:37,412 --> 01:26:39,892
Speaker 3: I don't want to be going multiple places to try

1810
01:26:39,933 --> 01:26:42,892
Speaker 3: and you know, get myself back to having a good body.

1811
01:26:42,973 --> 01:26:45,452
Speaker 3: I've never had a good body. I want someone to

1812
01:26:45,652 --> 01:26:47,173
Speaker 3: push me hard. So I don't want to do this

1813
01:26:47,293 --> 01:26:50,492
Speaker 3: by myself. I need a boot camp drill sergeant right

1814
01:26:50,572 --> 01:26:52,812
Speaker 3: there kicking my ass. And I don't want to have

1815
01:26:52,933 --> 01:26:54,213
Speaker 3: to mortgage the house to pay for it.

1816
01:26:54,253 --> 01:26:58,093
Speaker 2: All right, okay, and so is self control. Are you're

1817
01:26:58,093 --> 01:27:00,492
Speaker 2: taking any responsibility for your health yourself or you want

1818
01:27:00,532 --> 01:27:03,572
Speaker 2: to you know, you want to outsource that discipline to

1819
01:27:03,652 --> 01:27:04,213
Speaker 2: someone out.

1820
01:27:04,372 --> 01:27:06,692
Speaker 3: Thank you for asking. I would like to outsource that

1821
01:27:06,772 --> 01:27:09,933
Speaker 3: discipline to someone else. And I freely admit because I

1822
01:27:09,973 --> 01:27:11,213
Speaker 3: take my head off to your met You've been doing

1823
01:27:11,213 --> 01:27:13,053
Speaker 3: a lot of running over the past eight months. You've

1824
01:27:13,053 --> 01:27:15,093
Speaker 3: got a big race coming up I think in November, right,

1825
01:27:15,173 --> 01:27:16,213
Speaker 3: you're the first marathon.

1826
01:27:16,253 --> 01:27:18,213
Speaker 2: Well, I'm running half math on Intopaul this weekend.

1827
01:27:18,372 --> 01:27:21,053
Speaker 3: Fantastic. Yes, So you're one of these guys you like this,

1828
01:27:21,253 --> 01:27:23,972
Speaker 3: these David Goggan type guys. Right, maybe not to that level,

1829
01:27:24,013 --> 01:27:26,812
Speaker 3: but you can do it yourself. And you you're in

1830
01:27:26,933 --> 01:27:30,053
Speaker 3: your inside your own head saying get off your ass, mat,

1831
01:27:30,213 --> 01:27:32,812
Speaker 3: get out there running the rain. You're loving it. A

1832
01:27:32,893 --> 01:27:35,293
Speaker 3: bit of pain is what matters in life. Way, so

1833
01:27:35,372 --> 01:27:35,852
Speaker 3: you get a hit.

1834
01:27:35,933 --> 01:27:37,372
Speaker 2: Wait to you hear my new thing that I got.

1835
01:27:37,812 --> 01:27:39,572
Speaker 2: It's like the equivalent of a bit of nails that

1836
01:27:39,612 --> 01:27:42,013
Speaker 2: I now lie on, which is it's not nails, but

1837
01:27:42,053 --> 01:27:44,173
Speaker 2: it's this plastic sheet you put down with spikes on it,

1838
01:27:44,213 --> 01:27:46,173
Speaker 2: and you lie down on that when you're reading a

1839
01:27:46,213 --> 01:27:46,772
Speaker 2: book or something.

1840
01:27:47,333 --> 01:27:51,333
Speaker 3: Not the frecking SHARKTI Mat. Yeah, oh mate, you are insane.

1841
01:27:51,452 --> 01:27:53,412
Speaker 3: I've tried that and that hurts like a mother.

1842
01:27:53,772 --> 01:27:53,972
Speaker 1: Ah.

1843
01:27:54,652 --> 01:27:57,812
Speaker 3: But so there's I was thinking about CrossFit, that's a

1844
01:27:57,812 --> 01:28:00,532
Speaker 3: big one. Then you've got forty five. Then a lot

1845
01:28:00,572 --> 01:28:03,933
Speaker 3: of people are tixing through about muy Thai yep. I

1846
01:28:03,973 --> 01:28:05,812
Speaker 3: don't know how well I'd go in muy Thai yep.

1847
01:28:06,213 --> 01:28:10,692
Speaker 2: I broke my back in TI kickboxing, so I pushed

1848
01:28:10,732 --> 01:28:12,293
Speaker 2: too far on that about ten years ago.

1849
01:28:12,893 --> 01:28:14,652
Speaker 3: That just will just scratch that one off the list.

1850
01:28:14,933 --> 01:28:18,052
Speaker 3: No more jiu jitsu. I like the sound of jiu jitsu.

1851
01:28:18,253 --> 01:28:21,893
Speaker 3: But at closing in on forty have I left it

1852
01:28:22,213 --> 01:28:24,293
Speaker 3: too late to get into the likes of jiu jitsu, because,

1853
01:28:24,293 --> 01:28:26,133
Speaker 3: as I understand it, if you've been into jiu jitsu

1854
01:28:26,372 --> 01:28:28,812
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty, I've got to get

1855
01:28:28,973 --> 01:28:30,932
Speaker 3: my butt handed to me for a long time.

1856
01:28:31,532 --> 01:28:34,492
Speaker 2: Michael Hill was forty when he started Michael Hill Jewelers.

1857
01:28:35,013 --> 01:28:37,452
Speaker 2: So forty is no time to be giving up the ghost.

1858
01:28:37,532 --> 01:28:39,452
Speaker 2: You've got another sixty years to go there, buddy.

1859
01:28:39,732 --> 01:28:42,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was always trueman. It's Michael Hill jewel

1860
01:28:42,173 --> 01:28:42,852
Speaker 3: for goodness sake.

1861
01:28:43,532 --> 01:28:46,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean is it is a question. And look

1862
01:28:46,213 --> 01:28:48,492
Speaker 2: as this textas says Tyler, the easiest way is to

1863
01:28:48,532 --> 01:28:51,333
Speaker 2: stop shoving all that rubbish into your face. Guaranteed. Every

1864
01:28:51,412 --> 01:28:54,492
Speaker 2: time I think whatever you do fitness wide, there's this.

1865
01:28:55,133 --> 01:28:58,173
Speaker 2: You've a certain amount of discipline, right, but also doing

1866
01:28:58,293 --> 01:29:02,532
Speaker 2: something fun is key. I enjoyed running, but you know

1867
01:29:02,652 --> 01:29:04,652
Speaker 2: that it depends what you want. If you know, losing

1868
01:29:04,692 --> 01:29:10,253
Speaker 2: weight doesn't come from from exercise, primarily comes from your diet, right,

1869
01:29:10,492 --> 01:29:13,492
Speaker 2: so you have to you'll have to make dietary changes.

1870
01:29:13,452 --> 01:29:15,612
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, and that plays into it. The one

1871
01:29:15,652 --> 01:29:18,093
Speaker 3: stop shop. So oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty, what

1872
01:29:18,452 --> 01:29:20,213
Speaker 3: is there's a lot of options out there. What is

1873
01:29:20,253 --> 01:29:22,293
Speaker 3: the best way to get into shape fast? What have

1874
01:29:22,372 --> 01:29:25,812
Speaker 3: you found that you absolutely love to do and has

1875
01:29:25,893 --> 01:29:28,972
Speaker 3: worked wonders for you? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1876
01:29:29,293 --> 01:29:30,652
Speaker 3: is a number of call. There's a lot of drill

1877
01:29:30,692 --> 01:29:32,772
Speaker 3: sergeants ticks in in actually, which is good?

1878
01:29:32,933 --> 01:29:34,412
Speaker 2: Wow, this is this is what I'm saying. But it

1879
01:29:34,532 --> 01:29:38,812
Speaker 2: said very sincly, Tyler. You can't outrun a bad diet mate.

1880
01:29:39,093 --> 01:29:39,972
Speaker 2: It all starts there.

1881
01:29:40,133 --> 01:29:43,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, very wise words. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1882
01:29:43,173 --> 01:29:44,732
Speaker 3: is the number to call. What is the best way

1883
01:29:44,772 --> 01:29:46,412
Speaker 3: to get into shape fast? Love to hear from you.

1884
01:29:46,492 --> 01:29:48,012
Speaker 3: It's twenty one past three.

1885
01:29:51,853 --> 01:29:55,492
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons. Call Oh eight hundred eighty

1886
01:29:55,612 --> 01:29:57,453
Speaker 1: ten eighty on used talk ZV.

1887
01:29:57,572 --> 01:29:59,772
Speaker 3: Afternoon, twenty three past three. What is the best way

1888
01:29:59,812 --> 01:30:02,333
Speaker 3: to get into shape fast? What have you found out

1889
01:30:02,372 --> 01:30:04,812
Speaker 3: of the myriad of options out there that worked wonders

1890
01:30:04,853 --> 01:30:07,012
Speaker 3: for you? Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number.

1891
01:30:06,772 --> 01:30:10,492
Speaker 2: To call, Matt. Danny Watson used to say, best way

1892
01:30:10,532 --> 01:30:12,293
Speaker 2: to lose weight is to keep your mouth closed.

1893
01:30:12,893 --> 01:30:13,652
Speaker 3: Is a white man?

1894
01:30:13,732 --> 01:30:17,173
Speaker 2: Denny Watson, Great New Zealand and Denny wantson.

1895
01:30:17,053 --> 01:30:19,333
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Dave, how are you mate?

1896
01:30:20,652 --> 01:30:20,852
Speaker 9: Good?

1897
01:30:20,973 --> 01:30:21,253
Speaker 12: Thank you.

1898
01:30:22,452 --> 01:30:24,013
Speaker 2: What do you think is the best way for to

1899
01:30:24,053 --> 01:30:25,532
Speaker 2: get get into shape rapidly?

1900
01:30:26,853 --> 01:30:30,253
Speaker 9: Well, let me just give you a quick background. Kept

1901
01:30:30,333 --> 01:30:32,932
Speaker 9: for normal life, keep the weight under control. You're right

1902
01:30:33,013 --> 01:30:37,852
Speaker 9: about keeping your mouth shut. No such dude for that,

1903
01:30:38,333 --> 01:30:41,333
Speaker 9: because don't matter how much exercise you do, if you're overreach,

1904
01:30:41,372 --> 01:30:44,612
Speaker 9: you're going to gain weight. So all of my life

1905
01:30:44,692 --> 01:30:48,532
Speaker 9: I've kept for rugby, running, all that sort of stuff.

1906
01:30:49,133 --> 01:30:53,572
Speaker 9: I discovered this form of exercise at the age of seventy.

1907
01:30:54,253 --> 01:30:57,812
Speaker 2: Okay, well tell you what, You've got a very youthful

1908
01:30:58,093 --> 01:31:01,293
Speaker 2: voice for someone that's discovered a term of well you

1909
01:31:02,692 --> 01:31:06,052
Speaker 2: sound about I'm going to say thirty eight. But anyway,

1910
01:31:06,133 --> 01:31:09,492
Speaker 2: continued Duve. Maybe that's maybe excus wisting.

1911
01:31:10,652 --> 01:31:15,413
Speaker 9: I'll take that. And yeah, it's an online cycling platform

1912
01:31:16,093 --> 01:31:19,333
Speaker 9: that really came to prominence during COVID, and a lot

1913
01:31:19,412 --> 01:31:26,772
Speaker 9: of the professional cyclists found it incredibly good for keeping

1914
01:31:26,812 --> 01:31:29,852
Speaker 9: their fitness up. Our daughter was an ex iron Man

1915
01:31:30,213 --> 01:31:34,012
Speaker 9: pro and she got us into it. And I'll tell

1916
01:31:34,053 --> 01:31:37,892
Speaker 9: you that is the thing that has kept my fitness up,

1917
01:31:37,973 --> 01:31:43,293
Speaker 9: in fact, increased my fitness significantly since I've been doing it.

1918
01:31:43,532 --> 01:31:46,133
Speaker 9: A couple of times a week. You can ride any

1919
01:31:46,253 --> 01:31:50,293
Speaker 9: course around the world average hundred and twenty one hundred

1920
01:31:50,293 --> 01:31:54,173
Speaker 9: and twenty five beach a minutes for an hour, hour

1921
01:31:54,213 --> 01:31:54,692
Speaker 9: and a quarter.

1922
01:31:55,452 --> 01:31:59,333
Speaker 2: So is this essentially being on an exercycle with a screen?

1923
01:32:00,732 --> 01:32:03,532
Speaker 9: Is actually being on a normal bike and you mounted

1924
01:32:03,652 --> 01:32:07,093
Speaker 9: up on a smart okay yep, and you have like

1925
01:32:07,173 --> 01:32:09,532
Speaker 9: an iPad or a tea these screens that you can

1926
01:32:09,612 --> 01:32:15,133
Speaker 9: see the course you're writing. Yeah, And honestly, I've never

1927
01:32:15,333 --> 01:32:18,612
Speaker 9: been as footicists in my seventy five years.

1928
01:32:18,692 --> 01:32:20,852
Speaker 2: And are you doing that with other people? Is it

1929
01:32:21,572 --> 01:32:23,012
Speaker 2: connected up with other people online?

1930
01:32:24,213 --> 01:32:26,933
Speaker 9: I tend to it's a discipline thing for me. I

1931
01:32:27,093 --> 01:32:31,973
Speaker 9: tend to do it by myself. Yes, you can have

1932
01:32:32,093 --> 01:32:34,652
Speaker 9: group rides. You can go on group rides, and you

1933
01:32:34,732 --> 01:32:37,452
Speaker 9: could even race if you want to. I use it

1934
01:32:37,652 --> 01:32:41,372
Speaker 9: for keeping the fitness up along with walking and oceans

1935
01:32:41,412 --> 01:32:41,652
Speaker 9: for me.

1936
01:32:42,692 --> 01:32:45,053
Speaker 3: So, how much would the set me back, Dave to

1937
01:32:45,093 --> 01:32:46,333
Speaker 3: get the old swifting set up?

1938
01:32:47,492 --> 01:32:50,053
Speaker 9: It's well, if you've got a bike, it's sets you

1939
01:32:50,133 --> 01:32:53,692
Speaker 9: back about eight hundred bucks for the smart trainer, right,

1940
01:32:54,133 --> 01:32:58,812
Speaker 9: and then it's about thirty seven dollars a month to

1941
01:32:58,973 --> 01:33:01,612
Speaker 9: be connected to the swifting platform.

1942
01:33:02,293 --> 01:33:04,892
Speaker 3: Pretty reasonable, And how do you find yourself in terms

1943
01:33:04,893 --> 01:33:07,492
Speaker 3: of motivation, Dave, Because it's all very well having the

1944
01:33:07,572 --> 01:33:09,612
Speaker 3: set up, but you've got to jump on the set up.

1945
01:33:09,652 --> 01:33:11,133
Speaker 2: Press it doesn't do anything.

1946
01:33:12,492 --> 01:33:16,372
Speaker 9: Well if you're not motivated to keep fit being you're

1947
01:33:16,372 --> 01:33:16,972
Speaker 9: a bit lost.

1948
01:33:18,133 --> 01:33:21,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, very fair, which is the situation, Tires. That's why

1949
01:33:21,853 --> 01:33:22,612
Speaker 3: I'm in trouble day.

1950
01:33:23,732 --> 01:33:26,093
Speaker 9: If you're not motivated, it doesn't matter what you want

1951
01:33:26,133 --> 01:33:27,772
Speaker 9: to take up, it's not going to work.

1952
01:33:28,053 --> 01:33:30,412
Speaker 2: But then again, like I've read this fantastic book called

1953
01:33:30,412 --> 01:33:33,652
Speaker 2: Atomic Habits, and I mean it's a very very famous book,

1954
01:33:33,732 --> 01:33:37,132
Speaker 2: but it talks about setting things, setting yourself up to succeed.

1955
01:33:38,013 --> 01:33:41,852
Speaker 2: And so you know, if you make it easier to

1956
01:33:41,973 --> 01:33:43,772
Speaker 2: do something, and it sounds like this is kind of

1957
01:33:43,772 --> 01:33:45,893
Speaker 2: an easy thing to do. You don't have to go

1958
01:33:45,973 --> 01:33:47,972
Speaker 2: through a lot of a rigmarole to get there. You're

1959
01:33:48,013 --> 01:33:51,372
Speaker 2: not going to drive somewhere, get changed there and do

1960
01:33:51,652 --> 01:33:54,812
Speaker 2: all those sort of different things. So fitness when which

1961
01:33:54,853 --> 01:33:57,293
Speaker 2: is why I like running, Dave, because all I do

1962
01:33:57,452 --> 01:33:59,973
Speaker 2: is put some shorts on, put my shoes on on them,

1963
01:34:00,013 --> 01:34:05,293
Speaker 2: straight out the door, and I'm doing it. But so

1964
01:34:05,652 --> 01:34:08,253
Speaker 2: you sort of set yourself up for success, I guess,

1965
01:34:08,652 --> 01:34:09,292
Speaker 2: he suggests.

1966
01:34:10,133 --> 01:34:12,253
Speaker 9: This's is set up in the spare room of the house.

1967
01:34:12,333 --> 01:34:15,452
Speaker 9: You can do it anytime. You don't have to just

1968
01:34:15,572 --> 01:34:17,173
Speaker 9: put on a bit of licra.

1969
01:34:18,933 --> 01:34:19,492
Speaker 11: You have to do that.

1970
01:34:20,772 --> 01:34:21,652
Speaker 9: You don't have to do that.

1971
01:34:22,973 --> 01:34:24,933
Speaker 2: But you look great with Dave, so you'd be So.

1972
01:34:26,253 --> 01:34:29,732
Speaker 9: You've got to look good. Yeah, I mean. And what

1973
01:34:29,853 --> 01:34:33,932
Speaker 9: you'll find, unfortunately, is what age you me thirty nine?

1974
01:34:35,293 --> 01:34:39,692
Speaker 9: Thirty nine? Good to start now, because if you start

1975
01:34:39,772 --> 01:34:43,093
Speaker 9: the discipline in your late thirties early forties and keep

1976
01:34:43,133 --> 01:34:44,492
Speaker 9: it up for the rest of your life, you're going

1977
01:34:44,532 --> 01:34:45,652
Speaker 9: to live long. Yeah.

1978
01:34:45,772 --> 01:34:47,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you you killed Dave.

1979
01:34:47,572 --> 01:34:47,732
Speaker 20: Yeah.

1980
01:34:47,853 --> 01:34:49,772
Speaker 2: So James Clear is the guy that wrote the book

1981
01:34:49,772 --> 01:34:51,772
Speaker 2: at Toomic Habits, and one of the things that he said,

1982
01:34:52,133 --> 01:34:53,772
Speaker 2: Tyler that really helps is that if you're going to

1983
01:34:53,893 --> 01:34:55,692
Speaker 2: run tomorrow and go to the gym tomorrow, you put

1984
01:34:55,732 --> 01:34:58,932
Speaker 2: out your shoes and your shorts and your gym gear

1985
01:34:59,293 --> 01:35:01,612
Speaker 2: the night before, yep, And when you get up in

1986
01:35:01,612 --> 01:35:03,093
Speaker 2: the morning, the first thing you do is you put

1987
01:35:03,133 --> 01:35:06,973
Speaker 2: that on. Because once you've got that gear on, you

1988
01:35:07,053 --> 01:35:11,612
Speaker 2: feel like an idiot taking it off without exercising, you

1989
01:35:11,652 --> 01:35:13,852
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So you sort of set yourself

1990
01:35:13,933 --> 01:35:18,053
Speaker 2: up to succeed. You make it easier to have good habits.

1991
01:35:17,812 --> 01:35:20,532
Speaker 3: Remove the obstacles. Yeah, I mean game of fine fitness

1992
01:35:20,572 --> 01:35:21,933
Speaker 3: sounds like a bit of me and that would be

1993
01:35:21,973 --> 01:35:23,852
Speaker 3: a lot easier than getting out the door and getting

1994
01:35:23,893 --> 01:35:26,372
Speaker 3: to jiu jitsu. Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is

1995
01:35:26,492 --> 01:35:26,932
Speaker 3: the number?

1996
01:35:27,093 --> 01:35:27,253
Speaker 22: Call?

1997
01:35:27,692 --> 01:35:29,412
Speaker 3: What is the best way to get into shape fast?

1998
01:35:29,492 --> 01:35:31,452
Speaker 3: What worked for you? Love to hear your thoughts. There's

1999
01:35:31,452 --> 01:35:34,732
Speaker 3: a lot of good suggestions coming in.

2000
01:35:35,093 --> 01:35:37,813
Speaker 2: Is this true? Go commando? It raises testosterone.

2001
01:35:37,973 --> 01:35:40,812
Speaker 3: I've already done. I've always done that. My test oseron

2002
01:35:40,973 --> 01:35:42,133
Speaker 3: is not that good?

2003
01:35:42,333 --> 01:35:42,612
Speaker 2: Really?

2004
01:35:42,772 --> 01:35:43,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you want to see?

2005
01:35:44,253 --> 01:35:46,772
Speaker 2: Uh no, thank you and I we'll be discussing that

2006
01:35:46,812 --> 01:35:48,772
Speaker 2: with HR. I can't be sitting here with someone who's

2007
01:35:50,213 --> 01:35:52,092
Speaker 2: presenting on news talks. He'd be commando.

2008
01:35:52,133 --> 01:35:54,093
Speaker 3: It's not on headlines with Rayling coming up.

2009
01:35:56,652 --> 01:36:00,093
Speaker 11: Used talks'd be headlines with blue bubble tax sees. It's

2010
01:36:00,213 --> 01:36:04,053
Speaker 11: no trouble with a blue bubble. Self made Kiwi businessman

2011
01:36:04,253 --> 01:36:08,692
Speaker 11: and global jewelry chain founder Samichael Hill has died after

2012
01:36:08,893 --> 01:36:13,293
Speaker 11: a battle with cancer. He was eighty six. A union's

2013
01:36:13,333 --> 01:36:16,532
Speaker 11: making a legal bid to stop the education ministry docking

2014
01:36:16,652 --> 01:36:21,572
Speaker 11: pay for education. Specialist workers taking industrial action by only

2015
01:36:21,692 --> 01:36:26,452
Speaker 11: working contracted hours and sticking to existing case loads. A

2016
01:36:26,492 --> 01:36:29,333
Speaker 11: small slip is blocking one lane on State Highway one

2017
01:36:29,412 --> 01:36:33,532
Speaker 11: in Northland over the Brindurwin Hills. Strong winds and thunderstorms

2018
01:36:33,692 --> 01:36:38,572
Speaker 11: hitting the North Island and orange rain mornings covered Tasman, Nelson, Marlborough,

2019
01:36:38,612 --> 01:36:41,732
Speaker 11: Corrimand or Bay of Plenty in central North Island mountains,

2020
01:36:42,253 --> 01:36:45,572
Speaker 11: and an amber wind alert applies for Auckland's Harbour Bridge

2021
01:36:45,893 --> 01:36:50,652
Speaker 11: until four. Owners of cruise ship Ruby Princess, which set

2022
01:36:50,732 --> 01:36:53,812
Speaker 11: sail for New Zealand from Australia as the pandemic hit

2023
01:36:53,933 --> 01:36:58,053
Speaker 11: in March of twenty twenty, must now pay passengers impacted

2024
01:36:58,133 --> 01:37:02,812
Speaker 11: by COVID on board after its appeal failed. Agents sought

2025
01:37:02,893 --> 01:37:07,813
Speaker 11: to smell a sell Sells Smith and Coey's Queen Street headquarters.

2026
01:37:08,492 --> 01:37:11,013
Speaker 11: More at ens in here or premium now back to

2027
01:37:11,093 --> 01:37:12,333
Speaker 11: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

2028
01:37:12,412 --> 01:37:13,412
Speaker 3: I thank you very much, ray Lean.

2029
01:37:13,532 --> 01:37:17,612
Speaker 2: I think Philip very welcome. A. I think Philippa has

2030
01:37:18,412 --> 01:37:19,812
Speaker 2: confused two things.

2031
01:37:19,853 --> 01:37:20,013
Speaker 20: Here.

2032
01:37:20,452 --> 01:37:23,053
Speaker 2: She's saying commando on a bike. You guys have to

2033
01:37:23,333 --> 01:37:26,532
Speaker 2: put me off my afternoon tea break from Philippa. You

2034
01:37:26,652 --> 01:37:29,933
Speaker 2: know I think someone was saying that from a male perspective,

2035
01:37:30,133 --> 01:37:33,573
Speaker 2: that going commando for some reason and increases your testosterone,

2036
01:37:33,572 --> 01:37:35,253
Speaker 2: which can be good for your health, right as you

2037
01:37:35,293 --> 01:37:39,253
Speaker 2: get older, as you're pushing for forty Tyler. And yet

2038
01:37:39,532 --> 01:37:42,053
Speaker 2: and another caller was saying, ride a bike. There are

2039
01:37:42,093 --> 01:37:44,972
Speaker 2: two different things. I don't think commando on a bike.

2040
01:37:45,013 --> 01:37:48,852
Speaker 2: Although you don't wear do you wear under your bike pants? Well,

2041
01:37:50,013 --> 01:37:51,852
Speaker 2: they don't. Bike pants have the sort of patting and

2042
01:37:51,893 --> 01:37:52,452
Speaker 2: stuff around it.

2043
01:37:52,452 --> 01:37:54,253
Speaker 3: And I hope so I'm trying to have a family, Philippa,

2044
01:37:54,293 --> 01:37:55,692
Speaker 3: So I'm not going to try that anyway.

2045
01:37:55,772 --> 01:37:58,692
Speaker 2: Tyler, you're looking to get healthy. You're worried about the

2046
01:37:58,973 --> 01:38:01,333
Speaker 2: state of your bod, and you're worried about the state

2047
01:38:01,372 --> 01:38:03,772
Speaker 2: of your fitness. So you're looking for the best way

2048
01:38:03,893 --> 01:38:04,372
Speaker 2: going forward.

2049
01:38:04,652 --> 01:38:07,452
Speaker 3: Something Yeah, something with stickability that I'm going to get

2050
01:38:07,492 --> 01:38:10,492
Speaker 3: in shape pretty quick. That's going to give me some motivation. Oh,

2051
01:38:10,532 --> 01:38:12,572
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

2052
01:38:12,652 --> 01:38:14,772
Speaker 3: And I've got to say, Matt, I'm leaning towards CrossFit.

2053
01:38:14,973 --> 01:38:17,333
Speaker 3: If anyone out there wants to move me away from CrossFit,

2054
01:38:17,372 --> 01:38:19,652
Speaker 3: by all means, tell me why, because I hear a

2055
01:38:19,732 --> 01:38:22,612
Speaker 3: lot of concerning things from some people about CrossFit, but

2056
01:38:22,732 --> 01:38:24,612
Speaker 3: to me, it covers a lot of basis.

2057
01:38:25,013 --> 01:38:28,173
Speaker 2: Guys tried jiu jitsu to get fit. Grappling is unbelievably

2058
01:38:28,213 --> 01:38:30,772
Speaker 2: hard work and use every muscle in your body trying

2059
01:38:30,812 --> 01:38:33,093
Speaker 2: to throw people on the ground and get them into

2060
01:38:33,133 --> 01:38:35,852
Speaker 2: submission holds. If you roll a couple of times a week,

2061
01:38:35,933 --> 01:38:38,213
Speaker 2: you will blast yourself into shape within six months. And

2062
01:38:38,293 --> 01:38:41,412
Speaker 2: it's great fun learning martial arts that actually works here, Steve,

2063
01:38:41,452 --> 01:38:44,772
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no one that has tried jiu jitsu,

2064
01:38:44,853 --> 01:38:46,692
Speaker 2: and I think there's a difference between Brazilian jiu jitsu

2065
01:38:46,732 --> 01:38:48,412
Speaker 2: and jiu jitsu. I'm not sure a lot about it,

2066
01:38:48,532 --> 01:38:51,452
Speaker 2: but you know, there's not a person that has that

2067
01:38:51,572 --> 01:38:54,293
Speaker 2: has got into the jiu jitsu world that hasn't raved

2068
01:38:54,412 --> 01:38:54,812
Speaker 2: about it.

2069
01:38:54,973 --> 01:38:56,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, life changing people.

2070
01:38:57,093 --> 01:38:59,612
Speaker 2: Every single person that gets into jiu jitsu says it's

2071
01:38:59,772 --> 01:39:02,053
Speaker 2: that they can't believe their life before and after. I mean,

2072
01:39:02,093 --> 01:39:04,612
Speaker 2: I haven't been involved in jiu jitsu, but but they

2073
01:39:04,692 --> 01:39:06,652
Speaker 2: love it. The zucks into it, isn't he he is

2074
01:39:06,933 --> 01:39:08,612
Speaker 2: Mark Zuckerberg's changed his life.

2075
01:39:08,652 --> 01:39:12,052
Speaker 3: It certainly is. He's a ripped human being. Now, glean,

2076
01:39:12,133 --> 01:39:12,492
Speaker 3: how are.

2077
01:39:12,412 --> 01:39:15,972
Speaker 21: You good afternoon. Just to give you a little background

2078
01:39:16,013 --> 01:39:19,572
Speaker 21: on me, I'm fifty seven, although during my twenties and

2079
01:39:19,692 --> 01:39:22,732
Speaker 21: thirties I did you a lot of sport, including boxing,

2080
01:39:24,333 --> 01:39:26,692
Speaker 21: although I guess since my late thirties i'd let things go.

2081
01:39:27,772 --> 01:39:30,612
Speaker 21: Working by myself, I was not controlling what I was eating.

2082
01:39:30,652 --> 01:39:32,612
Speaker 21: I was sort of going into bakeries after a job,

2083
01:39:32,692 --> 01:39:36,333
Speaker 21: and you know, I found my body was craving for sugar.

2084
01:39:36,893 --> 01:39:39,173
Speaker 21: So when people say you don't eat when your body's

2085
01:39:39,213 --> 01:39:42,572
Speaker 21: craving for sugar, it is really really difficult. But what

2086
01:39:42,692 --> 01:39:47,172
Speaker 21: I found, I followed my pride and employed the services

2087
01:39:47,372 --> 01:39:51,932
Speaker 21: of a personal trainer, and he also recommended a calorie counting,

2088
01:39:52,013 --> 01:39:55,452
Speaker 21: which is really onerous, but for me it's worked.

2089
01:39:57,372 --> 01:39:57,492
Speaker 9: Now.

2090
01:39:57,532 --> 01:40:01,812
Speaker 21: The personal trainer has given me a weights regime as

2091
01:40:01,853 --> 01:40:05,173
Speaker 21: well as well as a carbo regime. But it seems

2092
01:40:05,253 --> 01:40:08,053
Speaker 21: like lifting weights correctly and how we don't get the

2093
01:40:08,093 --> 01:40:10,293
Speaker 21: better if it's the full benefit of what we're doing

2094
01:40:10,293 --> 01:40:10,972
Speaker 21: when we don't lift.

2095
01:40:11,053 --> 01:40:11,333
Speaker 9: Problem.

2096
01:40:11,572 --> 01:40:16,973
Speaker 21: Not only I've do more calories lifting during weights, I

2097
01:40:17,093 --> 01:40:20,412
Speaker 21: do car It's so what weights is a good way

2098
01:40:20,452 --> 01:40:22,973
Speaker 21: of losing weight, but you've got to back it up

2099
01:40:23,053 --> 01:40:24,772
Speaker 21: with what you're read because what you're put into your

2100
01:40:24,812 --> 01:40:29,012
Speaker 21: mouth definitely impacts upon your sickness.

2101
01:40:30,173 --> 01:40:32,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean some techs you just came through before

2102
01:40:32,692 --> 01:40:35,213
Speaker 2: that was saying eighty twenty. In terms of you know,

2103
01:40:35,253 --> 01:40:37,572
Speaker 2: if you're looking to lose weight, I mean you also

2104
01:40:37,973 --> 01:40:40,972
Speaker 2: get there's also getting fit, which is important, and there

2105
01:40:41,133 --> 01:40:43,093
Speaker 2: is and but by waights, I mean I was listening

2106
01:40:43,173 --> 01:40:45,133
Speaker 2: to Hosking this morning and he was talking about a

2107
01:40:45,173 --> 01:40:48,013
Speaker 2: listener article. He was running down the listener but he

2108
01:40:48,053 --> 01:40:49,492
Speaker 2: was running up an article that was in the listener.

2109
01:40:49,532 --> 01:40:53,333
Speaker 2: But anyway, how important weights are as you get older.

2110
01:40:53,372 --> 01:40:57,893
Speaker 2: And my father's in medicine. It was in medicine. He

2111
01:40:58,013 --> 01:40:59,333
Speaker 2: was saying that, you know, there's lots of people that

2112
01:40:59,412 --> 01:41:01,213
Speaker 2: have the cardio to stand up when they get older,

2113
01:41:01,213 --> 01:41:03,692
Speaker 2: but if you don't work on the muscles, then you

2114
01:41:03,772 --> 01:41:05,692
Speaker 2: can you know, you might be able to have the heart,

2115
01:41:05,772 --> 01:41:07,013
Speaker 2: might be all right for getting around, but if we

2116
01:41:07,053 --> 01:41:08,692
Speaker 2: don't have the muscles, it's very difficult to get off

2117
01:41:08,732 --> 01:41:10,772
Speaker 2: the couch. So weights are very important.

2118
01:41:11,572 --> 01:41:13,133
Speaker 21: So so far it's worked for me. I mean I

2119
01:41:13,293 --> 01:41:15,173
Speaker 21: was this time last year as one hundred and twenty

2120
01:41:15,213 --> 01:41:19,972
Speaker 21: three kilograms and I'm down to one hundred and three. Yeah,

2121
01:41:20,452 --> 01:41:23,372
Speaker 21: I was talked about ten CAGs to go till you

2122
01:41:23,452 --> 01:41:26,093
Speaker 21: reach until I reach my idea. Wait, But the thing

2123
01:41:26,253 --> 01:41:28,732
Speaker 21: is I look a lot younger. As a result, I

2124
01:41:28,812 --> 01:41:32,412
Speaker 21: feel younger. I can walk a lot faster. You know

2125
01:41:32,532 --> 01:41:34,452
Speaker 21: when I go walking around one tree hill in Auckland,

2126
01:41:34,532 --> 01:41:37,173
Speaker 21: you know it's like I'm walking with twenty cages less

2127
01:41:37,213 --> 01:41:40,372
Speaker 21: weight and I'm doing a lot faster. So for me,

2128
01:41:40,532 --> 01:41:42,852
Speaker 21: you know, the person will train. The costs eighty dollars

2129
01:41:42,893 --> 01:41:44,212
Speaker 21: a week, but for me it's worth.

2130
01:41:44,053 --> 01:41:46,772
Speaker 2: It with your calorie counting. Are you using an app?

2131
01:41:47,652 --> 01:41:49,772
Speaker 21: Yes, it's called my Fitness Pill, Yeah.

2132
01:41:49,692 --> 01:41:54,492
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, and do you find that you know that's

2133
01:41:54,692 --> 01:41:55,772
Speaker 2: that's a bit of work, isn't it?

2134
01:41:55,853 --> 01:41:58,093
Speaker 21: But does it just mean you can't get onerous? It

2135
01:41:58,173 --> 01:42:01,132
Speaker 21: can get used to it, but it can be onerous

2136
01:42:01,732 --> 01:42:04,173
Speaker 21: having to scan everything you go for a snack. But

2137
01:42:04,293 --> 01:42:06,732
Speaker 21: what I found is there are some protein snacks which

2138
01:42:06,772 --> 01:42:09,093
Speaker 21: you think, well, the protein snack, so surely they must

2139
01:42:09,133 --> 01:42:11,852
Speaker 21: be good for me. But you're going to scam there's

2140
01:42:11,853 --> 01:42:15,012
Speaker 21: four hundred delivery there four four hundred great calories.

2141
01:42:15,492 --> 01:42:17,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's a lot a lot of people that's

2142
01:42:17,452 --> 01:42:19,652
Speaker 2: trying to scam you out there. Absolutely. I mean I

2143
01:42:19,652 --> 01:42:21,572
Speaker 2: always thinking about muslei bars my whole life. I thought

2144
01:42:21,612 --> 01:42:23,333
Speaker 2: musley bars are the healthiest thing in the world, and

2145
01:42:23,372 --> 01:42:26,012
Speaker 2: then you start looking into it and most muslely bars

2146
01:42:26,053 --> 01:42:30,133
Speaker 2: are completely The main ingredient is sugar. Yeah, that's how

2147
01:42:30,173 --> 01:42:33,133
Speaker 2: they bulked them up, so essentially a lolly that you

2148
01:42:33,372 --> 01:42:36,532
Speaker 2: that we may think is healthy. But yeah, so you've

2149
01:42:36,572 --> 01:42:38,012
Speaker 2: got a protein bar there, Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was about to say Glenn that I thought

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01:42:40,333 --> 01:42:42,412
Speaker 3: I'd had my nutrition not too bad for the last

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01:42:42,452 --> 01:42:45,413
Speaker 3: couple of weeks that in the morning, I have some oatmeal,

2153
01:42:45,572 --> 01:42:48,213
Speaker 3: some blueberries, a bit a yogurt in there. Then I've

2154
01:42:48,253 --> 01:42:50,293
Speaker 3: got in front of me, we are we high protein

2155
01:42:50,372 --> 01:42:52,253
Speaker 3: bar that was going to be for my lunch before

2156
01:42:52,293 --> 01:42:55,812
Speaker 3: I have a nutritious dinner. But I think you're right.

2157
01:42:56,293 --> 01:42:58,973
Speaker 3: It's probably full of stuff that is not really going

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01:42:59,053 --> 01:43:00,372
Speaker 3: to power my body going forward.

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01:43:00,652 --> 01:43:03,173
Speaker 21: It depends what branded is. There are some that asked

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01:43:03,253 --> 01:43:05,612
Speaker 21: wasn't really quite good and health health shops recommend them,

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01:43:06,093 --> 01:43:12,373
Speaker 21: and those are just trying to whether.

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01:43:10,732 --> 01:43:14,492
Speaker 2: There's that great episode of the South Park with a

2163
01:43:14,532 --> 01:43:19,213
Speaker 2: bulking up on the protein powder. It's not necessarily making

2164
01:43:19,293 --> 01:43:24,013
Speaker 2: you buff three thousands. Hey, good luck and congratulations on

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01:43:24,213 --> 01:43:27,213
Speaker 2: on dropping that that wake Glynn, Thank you so much

2166
01:43:27,213 --> 01:43:30,052
Speaker 2: for your call. This Texas says a divorce will motivate

2167
01:43:30,133 --> 01:43:33,213
Speaker 2: you like no other. Getting back on the market. You

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01:43:33,333 --> 01:43:35,772
Speaker 2: got to trying to put your best foot forward on

2169
01:43:35,812 --> 01:43:36,173
Speaker 2: the market.

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01:43:36,253 --> 01:43:37,773
Speaker 3: All right, I'll take that into consideration.

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01:43:37,893 --> 01:43:39,492
Speaker 2: You know your ex is going I put up with

2172
01:43:39,652 --> 01:43:43,772
Speaker 2: the with model one and then he's taking two point

2173
01:43:43,853 --> 01:43:44,732
Speaker 2: zero out into the market.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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01:43:47,293 --> 01:43:48,893
Speaker 3: to call. What is the best way you've found to

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01:43:48,933 --> 01:43:52,892
Speaker 3: get into shape fast? It is twenty wonder four, the.

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01:43:52,973 --> 01:43:55,492
Speaker 1: Issues that affect you and a bit of fun along

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01:43:55,572 --> 01:43:59,173
Speaker 1: the way. Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams Afternoons news talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be very good afternoon to you. We're talking about

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01:44:01,732 --> 01:44:03,972
Speaker 3: the best way or fastest way to get into shape

2181
01:44:04,013 --> 01:44:06,893
Speaker 3: and a relatively short amount of time. I've got a

2182
01:44:06,893 --> 01:44:08,572
Speaker 3: bit of a list of demands. I need it, let

2183
01:44:08,612 --> 01:44:10,213
Speaker 3: myself go, so I want it fast. I wanted to

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01:44:10,293 --> 01:44:11,893
Speaker 3: hit most, if not all, of my muscle groups. I

2185
01:44:11,973 --> 01:44:14,093
Speaker 3: want a one stop shop. I want someone there to

2186
01:44:14,133 --> 01:44:15,772
Speaker 3: push me hard and motivate me, and I don't want

2187
01:44:15,772 --> 01:44:17,013
Speaker 3: to have to mortgage the house to pay for it.

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01:44:17,293 --> 01:44:19,333
Speaker 2: There you go, so someone's saying here and this is

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01:44:19,333 --> 01:44:20,612
Speaker 2: what I mean. This just sums up with a lot

2190
01:44:20,612 --> 01:44:22,652
Speaker 2: of people saying abs are made in the kitchen, not

2191
01:44:22,812 --> 01:44:26,532
Speaker 2: in the gym. Tyler and the Sticks says, if you're

2192
01:44:26,572 --> 01:44:28,812
Speaker 2: craving sugar, you can beat it by having a sip

2193
01:44:28,893 --> 01:44:31,092
Speaker 2: of cream. That's what I thought. But then my partner

2194
01:44:31,133 --> 01:44:33,692
Speaker 2: started hastling me about cream because I always have cream

2195
01:44:33,732 --> 01:44:36,053
Speaker 2: in my coffee. Is you know well no Tyler, yeah yeah,

2196
01:44:36,333 --> 01:44:39,852
Speaker 2: And Trashy keeps telling me that cream is turning me

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01:44:39,933 --> 01:44:40,572
Speaker 2: into a fat pack.

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01:44:40,973 --> 01:44:43,692
Speaker 3: I thought cream's good for you in small doses.

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01:44:43,772 --> 01:44:45,732
Speaker 2: But that's what I thought. You don't want to see

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01:44:45,812 --> 01:44:48,012
Speaker 2: because you see this calor. Theres a lot of calories

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01:44:48,013 --> 01:44:50,732
Speaker 2: and cream, but a tastes so good. Well, that's the thing.

2202
01:44:50,732 --> 01:44:52,492
Speaker 2: You're going to have to decide what.

2203
01:44:54,612 --> 01:44:56,253
Speaker 3: That's the decision I'm going to make.

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01:44:56,492 --> 01:44:59,372
Speaker 2: I lost six kgs in three weeks just from only

2205
01:44:59,652 --> 01:45:02,932
Speaker 2: changing my food only two hundred and fifty grams protein

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01:45:02,973 --> 01:45:06,133
Speaker 2: and leafy green salad, cut down to one meat pie

2207
01:45:06,293 --> 01:45:09,452
Speaker 2: a week and no takeout. The thing with the diet,

2208
01:45:09,492 --> 01:45:11,692
Speaker 2: as someone said to me, is that you have to

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01:45:11,732 --> 01:45:12,932
Speaker 2: be able to do it for the rest of your life.

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01:45:12,933 --> 01:45:15,213
Speaker 2: There's no point in doing a snap diet that's too

2211
01:45:15,333 --> 01:45:17,213
Speaker 2: hard to keep up. You have to make a decision

2212
01:45:17,213 --> 01:45:19,093
Speaker 2: that you can keep going because otherwise you'll just slip

2213
01:45:19,173 --> 01:45:20,772
Speaker 2: back into your old habits and you'll end up probably

2214
01:45:20,772 --> 01:45:21,412
Speaker 2: bigger than you were.

2215
01:45:21,492 --> 01:45:23,213
Speaker 3: Right, yep, hundred percent. I've done that before.

2216
01:45:23,333 --> 01:45:25,652
Speaker 2: So can you live this for the rest of your life?

2217
01:45:25,692 --> 01:45:27,932
Speaker 2: And that's why it may be a change that doesn't

2218
01:45:28,133 --> 01:45:30,333
Speaker 2: it's not a snap change. Maybe it's something that you'll

2219
01:45:30,372 --> 01:45:33,053
Speaker 2: lose the weight over a year as opposed to three

2220
01:45:33,093 --> 01:45:35,933
Speaker 2: months or two months or whatever. You know what I mean.

2221
01:45:35,973 --> 01:45:37,732
Speaker 2: It has to be something that you can keep going

2222
01:45:37,853 --> 01:45:38,972
Speaker 2: and that is now your life.

2223
01:45:39,133 --> 01:45:42,333
Speaker 3: That is realistic. But hopefully I wanted a bit first.

2224
01:45:42,173 --> 01:45:45,572
Speaker 23: If I can you know, Sue, Oh hi, how are

2225
01:45:45,612 --> 01:45:46,052
Speaker 23: you guys?

2226
01:45:46,652 --> 01:45:48,173
Speaker 2: Very good? So better since you have called.

2227
01:45:51,133 --> 01:45:54,213
Speaker 23: Yeah, I just wanted to ring in and do a

2228
01:45:54,293 --> 01:45:58,133
Speaker 23: plug for audio books and walking because I remember seeing

2229
01:45:58,173 --> 01:46:01,612
Speaker 23: an interview with Graham Norton ages ago and Stephen Frye

2230
01:46:02,053 --> 01:46:04,532
Speaker 23: and he'd lost loads of weight because he just went

2231
01:46:04,652 --> 01:46:07,213
Speaker 23: for walks and listened to audio books. And that's what

2232
01:46:07,333 --> 01:46:09,492
Speaker 23: I do. I go for an hour walk every morning

2233
01:46:10,532 --> 01:46:14,253
Speaker 23: and I have found some amazing books, amazing authors and

2234
01:46:14,372 --> 01:46:18,053
Speaker 23: amazing narrators, and that hour just goes so quickly, and

2235
01:46:18,812 --> 01:46:20,812
Speaker 23: it's a great way to keep it and lose weight.

2236
01:46:21,213 --> 01:46:23,493
Speaker 2: Guess what soon, My book's coming out as an audiobook

2237
01:46:23,532 --> 01:46:27,532
Speaker 2: on the first of August. Oh, excellent, you go a

2238
01:46:27,612 --> 01:46:30,213
Speaker 2: lifely spanishing Thirteen Ways to Love the Life You've Got

2239
01:46:30,293 --> 01:46:32,412
Speaker 2: by Matt Heath out on audiobook wherever you get your

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Speaker 2: audio books, Hey, I tell you what, I totally agree

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01:46:34,812 --> 01:46:38,053
Speaker 2: with you in a really long book, Like I like

2242
01:46:38,133 --> 01:46:40,053
Speaker 2: a really long book so I don't have to make

2243
01:46:40,093 --> 01:46:42,133
Speaker 2: the decisions too, because you can get an action if

2244
01:46:42,173 --> 01:46:43,812
Speaker 2: you have to spend a lot of time deciding what

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01:46:43,893 --> 01:46:47,253
Speaker 2: you're going to listen to before you start. So I've

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01:46:47,293 --> 01:46:51,093
Speaker 2: been listening to Charles Dickens' novels. I love that because

2247
01:46:51,133 --> 01:46:53,093
Speaker 2: you know it takes a long time to get through

2248
01:46:53,133 --> 01:46:55,772
Speaker 2: a David Copperfield or a Bleak House or an Oliver

2249
01:46:55,853 --> 01:46:59,452
Speaker 2: Twist or a Great Expectation, and they draw you in,

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01:47:00,093 --> 01:47:02,692
Speaker 2: So you know that that can be weeks and weeks

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01:47:02,893 --> 01:47:04,772
Speaker 2: of not having to make a decision what you're listening to.

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01:47:05,853 --> 01:47:06,053
Speaker 9: Yeah.

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01:47:06,333 --> 01:47:08,732
Speaker 23: Usually most of the audiobooks I listened to sort of

2254
01:47:08,812 --> 01:47:11,532
Speaker 23: like anywhere between nine and thirteen hours, so you get

2255
01:47:11,572 --> 01:47:13,692
Speaker 23: a couple of weeks out of beach, so yeah, it's

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01:47:13,732 --> 01:47:14,133
Speaker 23: really good.

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01:47:14,253 --> 01:47:15,093
Speaker 2: And how long you walk?

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01:47:15,213 --> 01:47:16,612
Speaker 9: So yeah?

2259
01:47:16,652 --> 01:47:18,852
Speaker 23: And how I do five k's and that takes me

2260
01:47:18,853 --> 01:47:20,052
Speaker 23: about an hour each morning.

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01:47:20,293 --> 01:47:23,133
Speaker 2: Nice? Good on you. But do you eat well as well?

2262
01:47:25,492 --> 01:47:28,972
Speaker 23: I do try to eat well. I find that going

2263
01:47:29,093 --> 01:47:31,572
Speaker 23: for the walk allows me to have a good chocolate habit.

2264
01:47:31,812 --> 01:47:36,213
Speaker 2: So you earn those calories, it's important. Well, good luck

2265
01:47:36,253 --> 01:47:41,213
Speaker 2: out there, so congratulations on your health. Hey, Matt, take

2266
01:47:41,333 --> 01:47:43,973
Speaker 2: up any racket sport, tennis, squash, pick a ball. You

2267
01:47:44,093 --> 01:47:45,812
Speaker 2: never see any unfit racket players.

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01:47:45,853 --> 01:47:49,412
Speaker 3: Kevin, Squash is amazing for fitness, no doubt about it. Yeah,

2269
01:47:49,572 --> 01:47:51,013
Speaker 3: how far you're going to move around that week?

2270
01:47:51,053 --> 01:47:51,173
Speaker 22: Call?

2271
01:47:51,452 --> 01:47:52,812
Speaker 2: But I see this to someone the other day. You

2272
01:47:52,853 --> 01:47:55,372
Speaker 2: want to play squash and they took it to me swinging?

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01:47:56,412 --> 01:47:56,492
Speaker 14: Right?

2274
01:47:56,612 --> 01:47:57,093
Speaker 2: How did that go?

2275
01:47:57,333 --> 01:47:57,492
Speaker 9: Well?

2276
01:47:57,652 --> 01:47:58,012
Speaker 2: Is it true?

2277
01:47:58,293 --> 01:47:58,572
Speaker 3: Squash?

2278
01:47:59,053 --> 01:48:00,492
Speaker 2: A lot a lot of squash clubs are just a

2279
01:48:00,612 --> 01:48:01,372
Speaker 2: front for swinging.

2280
01:48:01,412 --> 01:48:02,093
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.

2281
01:48:02,213 --> 01:48:02,612
Speaker 2: That's true.

2282
01:48:02,732 --> 01:48:06,932
Speaker 3: Yep, I've seen it. Let's get a scott.

2283
01:48:07,053 --> 01:48:08,052
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

2284
01:48:08,652 --> 01:48:08,932
Speaker 10: Guys.

2285
01:48:09,812 --> 01:48:11,452
Speaker 24: Is that beeping coming from me or you?

2286
01:48:12,692 --> 01:48:13,612
Speaker 2: I'm hearing no beeping.

2287
01:48:16,093 --> 01:48:16,452
Speaker 14: That's right.

2288
01:48:16,452 --> 01:48:22,133
Speaker 24: I'll find out, surely, No. Maybe I'm one of these

2289
01:48:22,173 --> 01:48:26,932
Speaker 24: guys that I pack it on, but then I start

2290
01:48:27,133 --> 01:48:31,372
Speaker 24: doing work or exercise and it just literally drops off.

2291
01:48:33,973 --> 01:48:39,692
Speaker 24: I've in my situations, I lost thirty kilos or water

2292
01:48:39,973 --> 01:48:42,572
Speaker 24: in a space of three months just by simply working hard,

2293
01:48:42,772 --> 01:48:45,412
Speaker 24: like physically sweating all day every day.

2294
01:48:45,973 --> 01:48:47,532
Speaker 3: And so, so how did you do that? Have you

2295
01:48:47,572 --> 01:48:48,372
Speaker 3: got a physical job?

2296
01:48:48,412 --> 01:48:51,892
Speaker 24: I take it, Scott, Well, I haven't at the moment,

2297
01:48:52,053 --> 01:48:54,333
Speaker 24: but then hence I've put it all back on again.

2298
01:48:54,572 --> 01:48:58,053
Speaker 24: But when I was dairy farming. In different situations that

2299
01:48:58,173 --> 01:49:00,772
Speaker 24: I was dairy farming in, I'd be one hundred and

2300
01:49:00,812 --> 01:49:04,253
Speaker 24: fifty kilos. Three months later, depending on what time of

2301
01:49:04,293 --> 01:49:06,812
Speaker 24: the season it was, I'd be one hundred and twenty

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01:49:06,933 --> 01:49:10,812
Speaker 24: and lean as the raceles. So you big, got lots

2303
01:49:10,853 --> 01:49:11,973
Speaker 24: of muscle mass.

2304
01:49:12,053 --> 01:49:14,173
Speaker 10: But not much actual body fat.

2305
01:49:14,452 --> 01:49:18,333
Speaker 24: But then you know, I stopped dairy farming and I

2306
01:49:18,452 --> 01:49:19,133
Speaker 24: pack it all back on.

2307
01:49:19,333 --> 01:49:20,933
Speaker 15: So I put the back on.

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01:49:21,093 --> 01:49:22,253
Speaker 9: Over space of six month.

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01:49:22,492 --> 01:49:25,253
Speaker 2: You see that I'm continuing to move. This is a

2310
01:49:25,293 --> 01:49:28,013
Speaker 2: problem with Tyler, isn't it, Because he is All he

2311
01:49:28,093 --> 01:49:30,372
Speaker 2: does is talk into a microphone for a living. So

2312
01:49:30,452 --> 01:49:31,932
Speaker 2: you get in a car in the morning you drive

2313
01:49:32,013 --> 01:49:34,893
Speaker 2: in from from wherever you live, Mount Wellington? Yep, have

2314
01:49:35,013 --> 01:49:35,772
Speaker 2: I given away too much?

2315
01:49:36,492 --> 01:49:36,812
Speaker 3: That's right?

2316
01:49:37,572 --> 01:49:37,892
Speaker 19: All right?

2317
01:49:39,053 --> 01:49:41,053
Speaker 2: From Mount Wellington and then you park and then you

2318
01:49:41,812 --> 01:49:42,333
Speaker 2: come here and.

2319
01:49:42,372 --> 01:49:44,852
Speaker 3: You have my fifty meter walk into the office and

2320
01:49:44,933 --> 01:49:46,852
Speaker 3: then sit down and talk into a mic. Yeah, so

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01:49:46,893 --> 01:49:48,213
Speaker 3: you got a farm job for me, Scott.

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01:49:49,572 --> 01:49:51,812
Speaker 24: Oh, there are plenty of farm jobs out there, Tyler.

2323
01:49:51,893 --> 01:49:54,412
Speaker 24: There's at the moment you look on trade me and

2324
01:49:54,652 --> 01:49:57,972
Speaker 24: there's probably es fishing. Here in Canbury there's I think

2325
01:49:58,053 --> 01:50:00,092
Speaker 24: fifteen or twenty different farm jobs.

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01:50:00,492 --> 01:50:00,692
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2327
01:50:00,732 --> 01:50:03,013
Speaker 2: Well, I prefer if Tyler didn't leave and get a

2328
01:50:03,053 --> 01:50:04,732
Speaker 2: farm job. I need him on that mic over there.

2329
01:50:05,412 --> 01:50:06,333
Speaker 2: So maybe he needs something.

2330
01:50:07,013 --> 01:50:09,052
Speaker 24: You don't want him to take the micro you two.

2331
01:50:11,652 --> 01:50:13,173
Speaker 2: She's not a bad idea if he just has sort

2332
01:50:13,173 --> 01:50:14,492
Speaker 2: of had like a headset.

2333
01:50:14,652 --> 01:50:16,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, cow shed radio now we're talking.

2334
01:50:17,053 --> 01:50:20,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank of you cool Scott. Yeah, I mean people

2335
01:50:20,372 --> 01:50:24,932
Speaker 2: in physical jobs definitely have more muscle.

2336
01:50:25,053 --> 01:50:29,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, the farm strong as they call it. Denis, you've

2337
01:50:29,492 --> 01:50:31,572
Speaker 3: got a solution for me, you reckon?

2338
01:50:32,772 --> 01:50:35,612
Speaker 19: Yeah, just you need I think fundamentally you need to

2339
01:50:35,652 --> 01:50:38,652
Speaker 19: pack an event to have a reason to train, unless

2340
01:50:38,692 --> 01:50:42,692
Speaker 19: you're highly motivated like Dave goggins or something. But so

2341
01:50:42,933 --> 01:50:45,652
Speaker 19: for me, my recent one was doing the Higher Rocks

2342
01:50:45,692 --> 01:50:47,333
Speaker 19: in February this year. So I don't know if you

2343
01:50:47,372 --> 01:50:48,812
Speaker 19: know the High Rocks, but that's where you do eight

2344
01:50:48,893 --> 01:50:52,213
Speaker 19: k with one k intervals and after each k you

2345
01:50:52,372 --> 01:50:55,093
Speaker 19: stop and you do a field event like Burpy's slid pool.

2346
01:50:55,173 --> 01:50:58,013
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, that sort of thing.

2347
01:50:58,133 --> 01:51:00,812
Speaker 19: So if you and these different categories, you can do

2348
01:51:00,893 --> 01:51:04,612
Speaker 19: that in Fools two's individual pro So you push yourself

2349
01:51:04,612 --> 01:51:06,973
Speaker 19: as hard as you want, but you you will need

2350
01:51:07,013 --> 01:51:09,412
Speaker 19: a slight bit of strength like fez and even doing

2351
01:51:09,452 --> 01:51:13,852
Speaker 19: a you know, a lunge with a twenty kg on

2352
01:51:13,933 --> 01:51:15,852
Speaker 19: your back, you could have a little bit of leg strength,

2353
01:51:15,893 --> 01:51:18,133
Speaker 19: so you might have build that up slightly. But that's

2354
01:51:18,173 --> 01:51:20,013
Speaker 19: not a bad thing because it's kind of use it

2355
01:51:20,093 --> 01:51:22,932
Speaker 19: or lose it a But I think fundamentally you've got

2356
01:51:22,973 --> 01:51:26,852
Speaker 19: to have something that you are working towards unless you

2357
01:51:26,973 --> 01:51:28,573
Speaker 19: are highly motivated.

2358
01:51:29,652 --> 01:51:31,732
Speaker 2: I went to this thing the other day Dennis called

2359
01:51:31,973 --> 01:51:35,133
Speaker 2: Wild Turf. I wasn't competing, my partner was, and that

2360
01:51:35,293 --> 01:51:36,173
Speaker 2: was sort of a similar thing.

2361
01:51:36,213 --> 01:51:36,492
Speaker 20: I guess.

2362
01:51:36,532 --> 01:51:38,812
Speaker 2: There was running and then there was lifting and throwing

2363
01:51:38,893 --> 01:51:42,412
Speaker 2: medicine balls and stuff. It was impressive to watch everyone

2364
01:51:42,452 --> 01:51:44,852
Speaker 2: competing it. I got quite emotional actually watching these people

2365
01:51:44,893 --> 01:51:48,372
Speaker 2: that were getting together in teams and working towards it

2366
01:51:48,532 --> 01:51:51,573
Speaker 2: and fighting as hard as they could for their teammates.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a very good thing, and I

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01:51:53,612 --> 01:51:56,452
Speaker 2: was thinking more people should do that, because because you

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01:51:56,492 --> 01:52:00,652
Speaker 2: get the buzz of competition, aren't you, Dennis gives the

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Speaker 2: workout more meaning yeah.

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Speaker 19: Totally actually listening to your previous core about the farmer too,

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01:52:06,293 --> 01:52:09,213
Speaker 19: you know, like you get some of the skillyware teenagers

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01:52:09,253 --> 01:52:11,612
Speaker 19: that need a little bit of staring in the right

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01:52:11,692 --> 01:52:16,412
Speaker 19: direction that get great mentoring and life skills helping the

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Speaker 19: farmer out, you know, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely working hard, yeah, hundred percent season or someone

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01:52:25,093 --> 01:52:27,972
Speaker 3: that exactly just on the high rocks. So granted there's

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01:52:27,973 --> 01:52:29,652
Speaker 3: an event that you lead up to, so what do

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01:52:29,732 --> 01:52:31,933
Speaker 3: you do? So before the event, you go down to

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Speaker 3: a high rocks gym and you train up for that event.

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Speaker 19: You can, you can there are a couple of gyms

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01:52:38,173 --> 01:52:41,412
Speaker 19: that kind of have multi programs for it, so you

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01:52:41,933 --> 01:52:43,972
Speaker 19: kind of do it, you know, like those cross train

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01:52:44,053 --> 01:52:46,412
Speaker 19: type things, but you don't have to use a high

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01:52:46,492 --> 01:52:49,852
Speaker 19: rocks gym. You do the exercise it at home or whatever,

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01:52:50,013 --> 01:52:54,093
Speaker 19: and you know, and just you know, obviously do your

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01:52:54,173 --> 01:52:56,692
Speaker 19: running as well. But yeah, there are gyms because the

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Speaker 19: High Rocks is pretty massive now, like there's probably five

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01:52:59,093 --> 01:53:01,253
Speaker 19: events and obviously and there's all over the place and

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Speaker 19: the next one in Auckland is February next year.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that gives people per plenty of time to get

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Speaker 2: going for that. Thanks for that call.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they's got me fizzed up.

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01:53:09,933 --> 01:53:12,333
Speaker 2: So Steve messaged in and this is I think this

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01:53:12,492 --> 01:53:15,572
Speaker 2: is true. If you have motivation, press ups and squats

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01:53:15,612 --> 01:53:20,333
Speaker 2: will work every muscle group and cost you nothing. Press ups, squats,

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01:53:20,452 --> 01:53:23,932
Speaker 2: maybe a few planks at home every day because if

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01:53:23,973 --> 01:53:27,612
Speaker 2: you do squats, boy, oh boy, your legs hurt the

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Speaker 2: next day.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's great for you. Yeah, but again I just

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01:53:30,452 --> 01:53:33,173
Speaker 3: need a drill sergeant right there just screaming at me

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01:53:33,213 --> 01:53:34,812
Speaker 3: because I've tried to do that and I last about

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01:53:34,812 --> 01:53:36,293
Speaker 3: two days before I say, bugger this.

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Speaker 2: But what about if you put something on YouTube? You know,

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01:53:40,013 --> 01:53:42,612
Speaker 2: while you're doing it, Yeah, you know, so you's entertained

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01:53:42,652 --> 01:53:44,253
Speaker 2: by the TV and you do it.

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01:53:44,492 --> 01:53:47,333
Speaker 3: To David Goggins in the backgrounds. Yeah, absolutely good discussion,

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, High Rocks. I think out of

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01:53:49,333 --> 01:53:50,932
Speaker 3: all of those sounds pretty good. I'm going to look

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01:53:50,933 --> 01:53:53,173
Speaker 3: into that one, but we'll keep you data for sex.

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Speaker 2: This is matter you basically saying, bring back Top Town.

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Speaker 2: I am, and coincidentally, I've stolen the Top Town trophy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I stole it from the bowels of TV and Z.

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Speaker 2: I was working on a show and I found it

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Speaker 2: in this in this sort of store cupboard. And I've

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01:54:08,933 --> 01:54:11,132
Speaker 2: got the top on one of the Top Town trophies

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Speaker 2: and I keep my keys in it by my door.

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Speaker 3: You're a freaking legend, man. It is eight minutes to

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Speaker 4: It'd be.

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Speaker 1: Five to four.

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Speaker 3: That is us for another day. Almost.

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Speaker 2: What's cheating weight? I don't know someone's texting in cheating weight?

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Speaker 3: All right, I'll google that, give it a try. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if may would be very heavy.

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Speaker 2: But right now, Tyler, my good friend, tell me why

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Speaker 2: I'm playing this song from Badness?

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Speaker 3: What a tune our house? Because we've got to get

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01:55:18,933 --> 01:55:21,133
Speaker 3: rid of our love affair with property, says the man

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01:55:21,173 --> 01:55:23,772
Speaker 3: from Prague investment partner Partners. But there was a lot

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Speaker 3: of disagreement there. Say nothing wrong with love in your house. Yeah,

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01:55:27,093 --> 01:55:27,693
Speaker 3: houses are good.

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01:55:28,053 --> 01:55:28,772
Speaker 2: I love my house.

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01:55:28,893 --> 01:55:30,373
Speaker 3: You do love your house. It's good ourse.

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01:55:32,413 --> 01:55:36,253
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. Everyone, see you tomorrow afternoon and until then,

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