1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, a name 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: you can trust locally and globally. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: On the huddle of this this evening we have Clear 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 2: Delord journalist and Allie Jones from Red PR. 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 3: HALLO you too, Hi, Hi, Ali, Hi, right clear? 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Would you sell down the government's stake any New Zealand? 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 3: Well, certainly not now because who's going to buy it? 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 3: What price? I mean, it's losing a million a week 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: roughly if you look at this report, and you know, 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: a lot of the problems are beyond its control, but 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: I do think that it's image problems are within its control. 12 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: So things like running on time where they you know, 13 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 3: where they can beyond you know, disruptions like weather that 14 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 3: seems to have spiraled downwards. And I even recently I 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 3: was in Blenham waiting for my flight and they called 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 3: for people to offload and to take two hundred dollars 17 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: in the next available flight. I mean, how do you 18 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: overbook Blenham to Auckland. You know, It's just I've never 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: heard of that happening domestically before. And I'm not too 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: about the Curry Lune because I think most people are 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: not going to the Cary lunch. I think that's, you know, 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: one of our first world problems that we have. I 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: think I think that's quite a significant problem for Ngery. Yeah, 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: in terms of I think that for a lot of people, 25 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 3: the Corey Lounge is the reason they don't fly Jetstar. 26 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: If you give up on the Coral Lounge, then the 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: world is your oyster. You can fly whoever you want, 28 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: and that's where they lose the Lawy Well. I know 29 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: people who have given up on it, they just say, 30 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: look for the cost for the extra cosreditor ticket. They 31 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 3: just go and buy a cup of coffee and sit 32 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: on mile away at the time. 33 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: That's what I would advocate doing. And what do you think, Ali, 34 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: would you sell down the government. 35 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 4: Chap well exactly as Claire says, certainly not. Now this 36 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 4: feels really odd to me. You know, I do wonder 37 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 4: whether Greg knew something and off he went, because this 38 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 4: just does seem to have spiraled. I'm not big with figures, 39 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 4: but what I've found interesting was that, you know, the 40 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 4: operating costs were up eight percent. The big part of 41 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 4: that is fuel, so that's about I think about eight 42 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 4: hundred million. What is the other eight percent? To me, 43 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: it feels I know they've got problems with with planes 44 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 4: being great round and I know they've got problems. 45 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: The airport charges which have gone up. 46 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, Auckland has especially. I know that that's still a 47 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 4: huge amount of money and some of the messaging is confusing. 48 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: You know. 49 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 4: In New Zealand said in there in the media release 50 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: that one of the reasons that this experienced this loss 51 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 4: is that travel demand is weak. Well it's not. There's 52 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 4: been about a two and a half percent drop in 53 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 4: domestic travel, which isn't massive. But there was a story 54 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: in January where a House of Travel said that New 55 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 4: Zealand is a booking more international traps trips than ever 56 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: and the demand is amongst the highest I've ever had 57 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 4: on record. This doesn't feel right. It feels like a 58 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: poor management and a poor perception issue, as you said earlier. 59 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm not feeling very confident about it at all. 60 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, quite right. Okay, Now home ownership, what do you 61 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: think is going on here? Clear? Why don't the women 62 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: own as many properties as the men? 63 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it's handbags and I don't know 64 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 3: many people buying eight thousand. 65 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: Bags Lipster can make up shine. 66 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 3: I thought that was just such predictable nonsense. I mean, 67 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: women do actually have some extra costs in life, let's 68 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 3: just face it, going a long way, but I mean 69 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: clearly it's to do with not earning the same amount 70 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: of money, probably lack of encouragement from the get go, 71 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: you know, not being given perhaps some of the financial 72 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 3: boosts that some lads are getting from the parents or whatever. 73 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: And I also do think that the impetus to get 74 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: this financial literacy in front of kids really early, just 75 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: so that they know they have to save if they 76 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: have to spend, and really encouraging them. But I also, 77 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: you know, there's so many more layers than the survey addresses. 78 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: I mean, and also it is ridiculous to think of 79 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: some of the demographic they're talking about. These are kids 80 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: thirteen to like twenty nine or whatever. Yeah, which thirteen 81 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: year olds are buying a house? Which twenty nine year 82 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: olds are buying a house? 83 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: Not very many either, no, Ellie. I tell you what 84 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: I thought was fascinating about it, though, was the number 85 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: of the proportion of men who said they just didn't 86 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: know how to even start the process was much smaller 87 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: at six percent than women at sixteen percent. Why do 88 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: women not understand finance? Like men like, what's going on? 89 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 4: I think you're you're making an assumption. That bit of 90 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 4: information was quite telling. You know, of course the lack 91 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 4: of knowledge is going to be a factor when people 92 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: are buying a property. But you know, sixteen percent of 93 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 4: women reckon they didn't know where or how to start 94 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 4: compete with six percent of men. It's rubbish. I think 95 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 4: it's more a reflection of men thinking they know more 96 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: than they do and women are not backing themselves. 97 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: Oh men, men time, Men just telling FIBs to look 98 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 2: like they know something. 99 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 100 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 4: It's that whole thing about yeah, I know what I'm 101 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 4: doing and I can do this job, and women going, oh, 102 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 4: I don't think I can do this. 103 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: I've got Alie. I think got got two blokes in 104 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 2: the control room who are one hundred percent in agreement 105 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: with this. Yeah. 106 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: Men blagging their way into jobs that women would say 107 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: I'm not qualified for and men goingly, hey, I'm the one. 108 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm We sorted that out of Allie, you nailed it out. 109 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: He nailed it all right. We'll take a break the. 110 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the only truly 111 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: global brand. 112 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: Right, You're back with the huddle, Claire Delor and Allie Jones. Now, Claire, 113 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: Allie would like to talk about why we all have 114 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: Justinda derangement syndrome. So I'm going to open the floor 115 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: to you. Claire. 116 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if everyone has it. You know, 117 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: I know that you think your your lovely husband has 118 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 3: Trump arrangement. Does absolutely and by implication, then I probably 119 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: have it too, because I tend to agree with him. 120 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: Is this apropos the fact that Jasinda's moving to Sydney? Yeah, 121 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: and I called you a discussion. 122 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: I do think that if she's moving to Sydney because 123 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 3: she's getting good opportunities there for herself and her family, 124 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 3: I think that's a good thing. I think if she 125 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: feels she cannot return to New Zealand, I do think 126 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: that that is really very sad saying. But I feel that, Yeah, 127 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: I feel that because I think there is darned arrangement syndrome. 128 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: There are people who have tipped into what I would 129 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: call an irrational dislike and contempt for the woman. 130 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: I think so too, Alie, do you agree? No? 131 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 4: I think maybe she's moving to Australia because the weather's better, 132 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 4: food's cheaper. You know, some of the beaches are absolutely fabulous. 133 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 4: But there'll be my family's there. I'm the only one 134 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 4: left here now, and it's close enough to New Zealand 135 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 4: to visit friends and family. There may be a little 136 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 4: bit of that. I mean, she had a hell of 137 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 4: a time here. I had to say no one should 138 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 4: have to go through what she went through. But maybe 139 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 4: she's moving to Australia because she has great job opportunities, 140 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 4: it's cheaper to live there, and the weather's better. 141 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: I mean, let's be honest about it. She is going 142 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: to Claire get better job opportunities in Australia than here, 143 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: because I mean, what job do you give her here? 144 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: Well, she doesn't get the back, she doesn't carry the 145 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: baggage she's in Australia that she carries here. 146 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, because any you could, you could give her a 147 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: job here, but you're going to guarantee that there be 148 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of punters who will suddenly hate your 149 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: organization as a result. 150 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 3: I would say that also, probably the financial pressure isn't 151 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 3: so great right now to go immediately into a job. 152 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 3: Do you think she's probably done pretty much. 153 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, he has a question for you, Claire. Do you 154 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 2: think that the that the level of anger that people 155 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: feel towards her is unwarranted? 156 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: I do, why because it has tipped over into an 157 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: unrational level in my view with some people. I do 158 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: understand how very badly affected people were, particularly here in Auckland, 159 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: and I don't think that was understood and I don't 160 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: think there was enough by the government at the time. 161 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: But it's more recent than that. See I reckon that 162 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: there is. There is a lot of new anger that 163 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: has cropped up as a result of Jacinda and Chippy 164 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: and those guys Grant refusing to appear before the Royal 165 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: Commission when they were invited to, yes, and that would 166 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: have gone a long way to actually making people feel 167 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: a little bit better about the situation. All that did 168 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: was a just sparked anger all over again. 169 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: And I think they probably should have stummed up. 170 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: I do agree with that. Yeah, Okay, do you have. 171 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: Anything There's also a little bit of a tall Poppy 172 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: syndrome here to apart from the misogynism that we saw 173 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 4: in the misogynistic behavior, I mean this is that was 174 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 4: aimed at her because she is a woman. But also 175 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 4: she's done well overseas, you know the movie The Baby. 176 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 4: Now she's going to Australia. People hate anyone doing well 177 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 4: generally speaking. 178 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: What is going on here is that people are cross 179 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: that she is making good coin off the decisions that 180 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: she made about this country and that she and frankly 181 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: some of those decisions ruined people's businesses. And yet there 182 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: are and so there's no accountability. Right, So she's off 183 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: making wonderful coin in a great career and refusing to 184 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: be held accountable and come back at the Royal Commission. 185 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: I think that that's a reasonable I think people reasonably 186 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: can be upset about that. 187 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: I think that's an element of it. I wouldn't disagree 188 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 4: with that. But I also think we have a terrible tool. 189 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 4: Poppy syndrome issoe in New Zealand, and I think that 190 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 4: just Sinder are doing is absolutely ideal for people to 191 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 4: point the finger at here on that. 192 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: Okay, now on the AI clap, Do you have a 193 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: problem if Nicola uses AI for the speeches? No, not 194 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 2: at all. 195 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 3: I do have a problem with AI apparently having contempt 196 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 3: for were humans occasionally write things. It believes that we 197 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 3: can't construct a grammatical because. 198 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: Because what said this must be AI, because it's. 199 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: Too because because it's actually grammatically correct, I mean it 200 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 3: has contempt for us. 201 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: Yes, that's a MS developed that. 202 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: Agree Nicola. 203 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: Probably to be fair, though Ali Nicola would have a 204 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: better grammatic understanding of grammar than the average punter, wouldn't she. 205 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 4: Yep for those of us who've got a six percent 206 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 4: of school suitinglersh if you remember what school set English is, well, 207 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,479 Speaker 4: I feel like I feel malign. 208 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,359 Speaker 2: And I think the AI is buggering her phone line. 209 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: The AI does not like being slagged off. 210 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: AI is so cross with you. It's got into your 211 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: phone and we can't understand you said you. In fact, 212 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: Ali sound like you've co opted AI to do the huddle. 213 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 3: But AI can, I haven't. It can be stumped though, 214 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 3: because I put into chat GPT. Can you compose a 215 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy word political speech to persuade people 216 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: to take part in the twenty twenty six general election? 217 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: And it came back because that's the length of the 218 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 3: Gettysburg Address, one of the mos the speeches in history, 219 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: And it came back. I cannot compose a political speech. 220 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: It was very indignant at being asked to dirty its hands. 221 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: Your AI is no good, guys, it's lovely. Check to 222 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: the pair of you. Thank you for coming in clear. 223 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: That's clear to Law and Ali Jones are hudle this evening. 224 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 225 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 226 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.