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Speaker 1: Your source of breaking news, challenging ovinion and honors facts,

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, finding the buyers,

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Speaker 1: others cut use togs heading them open.

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Speaker 2: Today We're off to India to try and cut a deal.

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Speaker 2: We look at the Wellington water meeting which ended in

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Speaker 2: another meeting and no resignations. Canada, Oh, Canada new leader

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Speaker 2: in an upcoming vote. The PM for Tuesday, Catherine Field

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Speaker 2: is among the coalition of the willing in France and

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Speaker 2: Rob does the business in Britain.

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Speaker 3: Husky.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Tuesday. Seven past six. Now for the better

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Speaker 2: part of the afternoon. Various digital sites lead with the

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Speaker 2: pole that has won the Labor group forming a government,

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Speaker 2: and two Hipkins overtaking Luxon as preferred leader. Now, the Pole,

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Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you this morning, is full of holes,

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Speaker 2: and I wouldn't put any more weight on it than

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Speaker 2: I would any other individual set of numbers. But was

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Speaker 2: the fact that was so heavily covered In fact, it's

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Speaker 2: on the print version of the Herald as a lead

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Speaker 2: story this morning, It's on the television last night, television

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Speaker 2: news last night as well. Was the fact that was

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Speaker 2: so heavily covered so widely and so long because one

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Speaker 2: the media are biased and this suits their narrative, or

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Speaker 2: two it is in fact significant when one leader leap

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Speaker 2: frogs another and the government grouping is no longer supported

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Speaker 2: by enough people to stay in power. Should the imaginary

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Speaker 2: election be held today? Forgetting for a moment that a

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Speaker 2: pole is only a snapshot, and more importantly, all over

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Speaker 2: the world these days, poles increasingly account for little of anything.

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Speaker 2: Let us just quickly dissect why it is not worth much.

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Speaker 2: The Greens are up over three to ten. Not real?

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Speaker 2: They have grown almost a third more support, have they?

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Speaker 2: How it hasn't happened? The Maory Party up over two

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Speaker 2: to six. Hasn't happened? They've grown a third more of

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Speaker 2: their support, have they as well? To reach a number

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Speaker 2: they've never come close to. How's that happened? It's not real?

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Speaker 2: Act have dropped over two to seven point seven. Now

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Speaker 2: that might might have happened if the lunch pushback is real.

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Speaker 2: Hipkins up three possible He's had some good coverage of

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Speaker 2: late still barks at most cars. But if you're sick

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Speaker 2: of luxen and Hipkins isn't irritating you too much, maybe

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Speaker 2: you're warming to them. But here is what I know

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Speaker 2: from forty odd years of radio rating small players i aie.

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Speaker 2: The Maray Party, of the Green Party, of the Act Party.

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Speaker 2: They don't move in such large numbers unless something materially

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Speaker 2: has changed, and nothing materially has changed. But big butt,

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Speaker 2: whether you accept the numbers or not, it comes at

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Speaker 2: a very bad time for the government, who are dealing

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Speaker 2: with an ongoing, if not mounting, amount of commentary around

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Speaker 2: the PM and his ability to be a PM. We

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Speaker 2: can all connect with quite a bit of recent commentary

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Speaker 2: may or may not have come directly from his appearance

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Speaker 2: on this show. So these numbers merely extend out the

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Speaker 2: broader idea that, for whatever reason, Old Luxo has never

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Speaker 2: really got alongside your average key. We have been accepted

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Speaker 2: as one of us. And whether you accept the numbers

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Speaker 2: or not, the real politic is backbenches get nervous, and

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Speaker 2: when they're nervous, the chatter starts.

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Speaker 4: Wo News of the world.

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Speaker 2: In ninety second, ten miles off the East Yorkshire coasts,

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Speaker 2: it's all gone horribly wrong as one ship, seemingly on

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Speaker 2: autopilot ran into another ship happily packed so.

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Speaker 5: Long has collided with tanker Stenna Immaculate in the outer anchorage.

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Speaker 5: Both vessels are abandoning. Senna Immaculate is carrying Jet E

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Speaker 5: one fuel which is on fire.

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Speaker 2: And here's a maritime risk expert.

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Speaker 6: You won't have a lookout on the bridge necessarily, but

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Speaker 6: if you think about it, there's not much you can

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Speaker 6: do if you do see it looming at you because

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Speaker 6: you're an anchor. You can't unless you cut your cable

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Speaker 6: pretty quickly, you're not gonna be able to get.

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Speaker 7: Out of the way.

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Speaker 2: The riscue was faster and than imprisible.

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Speaker 8: They've done an incredible job in turning their vessels into

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Speaker 8: emergency vehicles out at sea. And I just want to

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Speaker 8: say big thank you to the Coast Guard as well

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Speaker 8: all of those from the East Coast who've gone out

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Speaker 8: to help in this emergency situation.

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Speaker 2: Rd'll head more on this letter on the program. In Canada,

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Speaker 2: we have a new leader and eventually apply. Minister make Conney,

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Speaker 2: who's been running banks, has decided he wouldn't mind running

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Speaker 2: a country started with some gloves off and talk.

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Speaker 9: Canadians are always ready when someone else drops the gloves,

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Speaker 9: so any Americans they should make no mistake in trade

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Speaker 9: as in hockey, Canada will.

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Speaker 2: Win on tariffs. VW might have an exempt from this

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Speaker 2: morning BMW though don't. I'll tell you more shortly about

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Speaker 2: that and how that works. But I mean, the whole

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Speaker 2: thing basically is a mess. And the big worry is

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Speaker 2: this escalates. This is deeply destructive what they're doing.

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Speaker 6: We need to make that case the American people because

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Speaker 6: they're going to feel it.

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Speaker 2: But you know, taking our eye off the ball, I

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Speaker 2: think is very dangerous, which means you've got to roll

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Speaker 2: out a Trump crony to run some spin.

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Speaker 10: Anybody who bats against Donald Trump, it's like the same

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Speaker 10: people who thought Donald Trump wasn't in a winner a

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Speaker 10: year ago. Donald Trump is a winner. He's going to

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Speaker 10: win for the American people. That's just the way it's

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Speaker 10: going to be. He's going to win big recession in America.

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Speaker 2: He's going to win big lee. Finally, if you missed

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Speaker 2: yesterday afternoon, that caravan full of extravatives they got all

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Speaker 2: excited about Sydney back in January, turns out to be

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Speaker 2: a hoax. For a while, it was an anti Semitic

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Speaker 2: terror plot. Of course, coppers had it figured, they claim

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Speaker 2: right from the get go. The caravan was too easily found,

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Speaker 2: that the explosives weren't concealed and there was no detonator.

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Speaker 2: They're now looking at charges for the person who quote

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Speaker 2: unquote pulled the strings. That as news of the world

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Speaker 2: of night. By the way, keep an eye on utel Set.

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Speaker 2: This is a French company. Utel Set had quite a

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Speaker 2: good week last week on the market, went up seventy

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Speaker 2: seven percent on Tuesday, went up one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: eighty seven percent. Why they think utel Set might well

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Speaker 2: replace Stylink in Ukraine A name to remember. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Be Fun Fact Tuesday. Over half of couples now fifty

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Speaker 2: two percent in fact, this is a survey, real wedding

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Speaker 2: study by the not fifty two percent of couples by

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Speaker 2: lab Grownd diamonds these days one k or one carrot

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Speaker 2: lab Grownd diamonds about eight hundred and forty five bucks

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Speaker 2: So you can see where the market's going there, can't you.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen past second son, Buddy how from JMI Wealth Andrew

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Speaker 2: Keller her good morning, very good morning, Mike, how good?

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Speaker 2: A Fontierra, how good?

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Speaker 11: Well, I'll skip over the price section the US sharemaker

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Speaker 11: overnight because that's that's not good. That's a very ugly

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Speaker 11: starts the week. That's not the case for Fonterra. No,

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Speaker 11: they gave a positive update yesterday for their twenty five

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Speaker 11: financial year earnings guidance, and Micael, I think we've talked before.

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Speaker 11: Let's philosophize for a minute show. I think we've talked

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Speaker 11: before about how when you get positive announcers for a company,

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Speaker 11: they tend to come and a run. You know, good

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Speaker 11: news breeds good news. It does tend to work the

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Speaker 11: other way as well. But Fonterra it's on a roll.

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Speaker 11: So they've increased the fully earnings guidance from forty to

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Speaker 4: So that's a meaningful lift.

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Speaker 11: So those supplies out there who own shares receive a

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Speaker 11: distribution from Fonterra on top of the forecast farm gate

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Speaker 11: milk payout. So that's they're looking at ten lows, if

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Speaker 11: not slightly more. Then they get this extra distribution as well,

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Speaker 11: So that's just more money flowing into the agri sector.

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Speaker 11: It reflects the strength of the core ingredients business and

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Speaker 11: the resilience of the consumer channel. Now there are Fonterians

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Speaker 11: that trade openly on ins and X. Yes, they climbed

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Speaker 11: or six percent on the day actually now trading levels

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Speaker 11: we haven't seen for six seven years, I think. And

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Speaker 11: what do you reckon to Mainland Group, Mike?

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Speaker 2: Maine do well? It depends on what they do with it.

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Speaker 2: If they IPO, it'll just flick it off, is the

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Speaker 2: big question, isn't it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So busy day for fon Terry yesterdays. They announced

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Speaker 11: the zernings up great, but they also started their roadshow

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Speaker 11: meetings relating to the divestment of what is its global

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Speaker 11: consumer associated businesses. So they're working through a dual process, Mike.

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Speaker 11: They're looking at a trade sale or you know which

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Speaker 11: is selling the whole thing lock stock and smoking barrel

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Speaker 11: or an IPO which means Mainland Group as it's been called,

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Speaker 11: would be listed on the inside X. Now listeners out

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Speaker 11: there and you and I could buy shares, which would

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Speaker 11: be a huge boost to ins X. Admittedly very early days,

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Speaker 11: no real indication of which avenue they will take yet.

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Speaker 11: It would be a big part of the INCID index

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Speaker 11: enz X index that became out. Mike me talking to

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Speaker 11: a standalone business with revenue close to five billion dollars.

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Speaker 11: of questions as to why they're doing it, but they

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Speaker 11: say they need to concentrate on what there's their core business,

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Speaker 11: which is that production collection of the milk solids.

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Speaker 2: been another day. These bank capital ratio, So Nicola Willis

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm raising this MC because I suspect that this

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Speaker 11: New Zealanders, you know, whereas we can talk about the

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Speaker 11: funding of the Reserve Bank till we're blue in the face.

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Speaker 11: But this one actually affects people because amids the speculation

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Speaker 11: around the resignation last week of Arbenzaid governor Or and

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Speaker 11: his subsequent immediate departure. One of the points of potential

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Speaker 11: contention between the government, the rbn said is bank capital ratios.

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Speaker 11: As I say, I think this becomes a bigger topic now.

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Speaker 11: The b and Z and their Weekly Economic commentary yesterday

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Speaker 11: raising interesting points. I'll just work through this. In twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 11: the RBNZ increased required bank capital ratios. For every dollar

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Speaker 11: of capital. Now, these new high ratios are being phased

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Speaker 11: in over time. I think they started phasing them in

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Speaker 11: twenty twenty two. I think it's over seven or eight

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Speaker 11: years now. The RBNZ was applying a theoretical test around

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Speaker 11: an untoward economic event a liquidity shock, using a one

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Speaker 11: and two hundred year event. That's tougher than they use

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Speaker 11: in Australia they only use a one in one hundred

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Speaker 11: year event. Governor reminster finances being restrictive. Therefore, it'll become

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Speaker 11: a point of discussion between the Central Bank and the government.

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Speaker 11: BNZ suggests that if the proposed path is moderated. Banks

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Speaker 11: would have to hold less capital, Monetary conditions become more stimulatory,

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Speaker 11: banks can lend more. Therefore, you wouldn't need as lower

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Speaker 11: cash rate, which is an interesting an interesting consequence. Look,

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Speaker 11: I think it was also talked about yesterday the Parliamentary

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Speaker 11: Committee when the bank leaders appeared before son't this isn't

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Speaker 11: going away. There's more to come on this. Where does

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Speaker 2: Just to insight into the shambles that is this terror

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Speaker 2: of business. We'll talk more with Catherine. They're freaking out

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Speaker 2: because they got tariffs due to come in this week.

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Speaker 2: I think it is anyway, So Volkswagen they're exempt because

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Speaker 2: they've got enough cars they can make. Not all their cars,

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Speaker 2: but the cars are making America are exempt. BMW do not.

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Speaker 2: But even though that BMW apparently they do make cars.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with the Chemist, Well's keeping Kiwi's healthy all

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Speaker 2: Elbow thinks he's getting an exemption. He's dreaming now. The

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Speaker 2: This is where we Live.

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Speaker 4: Also defence, What's insane?

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Speaker 12: People?

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Speaker 7: What's ouse?

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Speaker 5: Happen monsters.

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Speaker 2: By the time the sun comes up tomorrow, there's a

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Speaker 13: You swore.

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Speaker 7: Show.

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Speaker 2: We've got Pedro Pascal, we've got Bella Ramsey. Their backers

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Speaker 2: Joel and Elie. April Thirteen's your date available on me

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Speaker 2: on Mike. Why in the hell is New Zealand fixated

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Speaker 2: on selling bolk goods with no value add? Surely the

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Speaker 2: serious money to be made from that model, Andy, I

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Speaker 2: It's not like they're moving into car production. They already

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Speaker 12: All.

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Speaker 2: Now come to Malcolm Turonble. The reason I mentioned Malcolm

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Speaker 2: Problem there's not many people believe them.

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Speaker 10: In America. There's going to be still recession in America.

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Speaker 2: Whatever. We have catspine Field in France on similar matters,

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Speaker 2: Pat Morning. So you came out all guns blazing for

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Speaker 2: Nick Leggart. He doesn't deserve to go. Do you think

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Speaker 7: Look, at the end of the day, that's a decision

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 7: Look, he's made a huge contribution to the change and

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Speaker 2: Everyone around the country hasn't followed this intricately. How many

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Speaker 2: And I'm talking about the executive as well as the board.

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Speaker 2: How many of you still there that should be held responsible.

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Speaker 7: At the executive level, there's I think three out of

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Speaker 2: Right, So what you would argue is, wh're you, We're fresh,

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Speaker 2: we know what we're doing, we've got it under control.

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Speaker 2: Just let us try and get on with it.

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Speaker 7: Exactly, we're the ones turning over the stones and fixing this.

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Speaker 7: What we're trying to do is sorry mine, is it fixable?

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Speaker 13: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Yes, Look there's been a culture of growing our ability

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Speaker 7: Now it's easily fixed and the staff are kin to

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Speaker 2: So you're what you're looking to do is simply put

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Speaker 7: Some of them are supportive, some of them are very angry,

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Speaker 7: and they've got every reason to be. All I was

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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister's comments last week post cabinet that this

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Speaker 7: Is he right?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, Look that the solution for Wellington's water network is

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Speaker 2: Bang on what happens on Friday.

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Speaker 7: At the meeting, we'll be revisiting there's value for money.

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Speaker 7: I expect that Rudy be in the chair's hands and

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll probably get you back on talk about it,

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Speaker 2: but I appreciate it. Pat Docketing, Wellington Water CEO. Nothing

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Speaker 2: like meetings eight. Don't we all love meetings. It's nineteen

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Speaker 2: minutes away from seven. Top economic advisor Don Ferrell out

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Speaker 2: Turnbulls just appeared on Bloomberg talked about planned tariff's. Turnbull

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Speaker 2: said he expected Jijinping to take massive advantage of Trump's presidency.

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Speaker 2: Where Trump is chaotic, he will be consistent. Where Trump

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Speaker 2: is rude and abusive, he'll be respectful. And what that

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Speaker 2: will do is bill trust with countries. And there will

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Speaker 2: be many countries looking at China on one hand, Trump

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Speaker 2: on the other, and they will prefer China. So any

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Speaker 2: exemption that Elbow wanted is well and truly gone. Seventeen

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Speaker 2: to two.

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Speaker 2: Be getting some Fonterra pushback Mike Rmadieri farmer bolks become

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Speaker 2: value add It's a huge portion of our product makes

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Speaker 2: sold with added expertise as opposed to consumer goods expensive

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Speaker 2: and in competition with ingredients businesses whom others like Nesle

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Speaker 2: and Mars are much better at ross. Mike, three words

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Speaker 2: for you. Whole milk powder your best bang for buck

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Speaker 2: value add to bulk milk solids. Let someone else dick

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Speaker 2: around making cheese and ice craps. Thank you, Chris. Fourteen

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Speaker 2: to two.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance. Peace of mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Catherine, how are you now?

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Speaker 7: I'm fine?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, mat Thank you for asking this coalition of

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Speaker 2: the willing? How many are there and how willing are they?

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Speaker 14: All right?

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Speaker 13: So this is the meeting which is going to take

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Speaker 13: place probably just underd twenty hours from now here in Paris.

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Speaker 13: We know that there will be at least thirty two

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Speaker 13: nations represented at this meeting in Paris. It will be

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Speaker 13: the chief of staff or somewhere else of a high

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Speaker 13: rank from each of these nations military. What they're looking

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Speaker 13: at might is the creation of an international security framework

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Speaker 13: for or when there will be a cease fire as

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Speaker 13: a piece of some sort in Ukraine. The French making

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Speaker 13: it very clear that this is not going to be

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Speaker 13: people talking about going to the front line. This is

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Speaker 13: about guaranteeing a future piece in Ukraine once there is

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Speaker 13: a cease fire framework. And they also need to show

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Speaker 13: that they are going to be able to take responsibility

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Speaker 13: for this coalition of the willing europe can do it,

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Speaker 13: which is why they say the US has not been invited,

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Speaker 13: specifically not been invited. Now, just a couple of hours ago,

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Speaker 13: the French military who are hosting this meeting, came out

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Speaker 13: and told journalists that when they're there, when they're at

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Speaker 13: the table, they're going to be asking these military chiefs

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Speaker 13: what they can contribute.

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Speaker 2: What do you bring to the table.

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Speaker 13: They're going to ask them, not what do you think

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Speaker 13: can it be done? They want to know what they

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Speaker 13: can bring.

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Speaker 2: It'll be interesting. I know Australia say we've got the

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Speaker 2: Prime minsterore on later. I just wonder if where they're

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure this intelligence thing, the US turning the

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Speaker 2: switches off, and maybe they've turned it back on. Who

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Speaker 2: the hell knows what's going on? Where are we at

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Speaker 2: with it?

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Speaker 13: This has really got everyone worried. Yes, this idea that

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Speaker 13: United States has if you restricted sharing of some military

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Speaker 13: intelligence has got Europeans military intelligence services.

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Speaker 2: You're stepping up a.

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Speaker 13: Gear and warning that this is just not going to

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Speaker 13: end well if you like. The head of Germany's security

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Speaker 13: intelligence has said that one of the worst things about

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Speaker 13: this now is that the Trump administration is taking a

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Speaker 13: different approach to nearly every conflict. So they said this

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Speaker 13: is making international securities concerns worse rather than better. And

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Speaker 13: the big point they're making miney is that no country

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Speaker 13: can fight these threats on their own.

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Speaker 2: So what they're saying is, look, we're seeing.

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Speaker 13: An uptick in Russian spying on Europe. We're seeing an

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Speaker 13: uptick of Russian planes in the skies above. Europe air

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Speaker 13: Force is going to have to be in the air more.

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Speaker 13: But the only way that they can do this is

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Speaker 13: by having a really complete sharing of information. And what

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Speaker 13: they're doing, and what they're saying here in France is

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Speaker 13: you please, the US cannot pull out of all this

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Speaker 13: just cannot walk away because it's just too much at

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Speaker 13: stake now.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, and there will be all eyes on read this

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Speaker 2: week and see what comes out of the talks. And

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Speaker 2: while you're dealing with all of that steel and aluminium.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming it comes into place. Unless you've heard something

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Speaker 2: I haven't, it's.

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Speaker 13: Indeed meant to be coming into place twenty five percent

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Speaker 13: on steel and aluminium exports from the EU into the US.

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Speaker 13: I mean, just an example of the sort of change

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Speaker 13: of tone that we've heard in the past, it would

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Speaker 13: be a European commissioner coming forward and saying, well, we're

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Speaker 13: trying to work it out.

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Speaker 2: We're trying to work it out.

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Speaker 13: We've got our people there. The European Union's Trade commissioners

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Speaker 13: said just a few hours ago that the United States

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Speaker 13: does not seem to be engaging to make a deal.

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Speaker 2: Feel like a weird time, Catherine.

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Speaker 13: It's spooky times. I never thought i'd live.

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Speaker 14: To see this, mate.

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Speaker 2: Good on, you're nice to talk. Catherine Field in France

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Speaker 2: as Ring and Charlotte Gall the other day talking about

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Speaker 2: the nuclear umbrella in France and quoting Charlda Gaull, who

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Speaker 2: said Americans were more our friends than Russians, but the

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Speaker 2: US two had interests and one day their interests would

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Speaker 2: clash with ours. You said that quite a long time ago,

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Speaker 2: ten minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with Alveda Retirement Communities News togs

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Speaker 1: had been Mike, do.

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Speaker 2: You think these poles are politically motivated? And should they

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Speaker 2: be investigated? No, No, they should not. You don't have

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Speaker 2: to accept them. But it's not a scandal. Not everything's

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Speaker 2: a conspiracy, Jef.

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Speaker 4: Mike, or isn't it?

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Speaker 2: What does your take on the Turnbull commentary? China does

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Speaker 2: play the long game. There is more than the little

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Speaker 2: truth of what Malcolm said, and say Malcolm wasn't right.

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Speaker 2: I think undoubtedly he is right. I'm just saying that

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Speaker 2: Trump doesn't like hearing that sort of talk. Then Trump

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Speaker 2: does stuff about it. Mike. The thing about China and

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Speaker 2: Turnbull is he might actually be right because the Chinese

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Speaker 2: played the long game and they'll be respectful through the

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Speaker 2: Trump presidency. And Trump isn't he is one hundred percent correct.

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Speaker 2: And of course the other thing you do, if you

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Speaker 2: don't like Trump, you're just holding your brief for another

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Speaker 2: three and a half years and it's done, Mike. The

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Speaker 2: midterms are going to be the key one. He's got

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Speaker 2: as money problems coming up and whether or not the

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Speaker 2: economy's going to close down. Two, he's got the midterms

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Speaker 2: coming up and the pushback, Believe me, he's going to

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Speaker 2: be massive coming from certain parts of the Republican Party.

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Speaker 2: And that's before you then get to the so called

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Speaker 2: legacy in twenty eight and whether or not you can

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Speaker 2: find somebody who wants to try and rectify the damage

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Speaker 2: he's reeking on the American economy. Mike, I'm a Fontier farmer.

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Speaker 2: I think the consumer business is too important to sell.

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Speaker 2: It's what helps us connect to New Zealand, and it's

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Speaker 2: critical overseas and overseas markets they look at what we

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Speaker 2: do at home before buying grass feed all the way

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Speaker 2: as somebody who travels extensively. New Zealand's one of the

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Speaker 2: few places where cows are outdoor three hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: five days a year. All that's important. That's my argument

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Speaker 2: as well, and I'm glad I'm not alone, and I

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Speaker 2: think that we're not covering it particularly well. It's not

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Speaker 2: getting the coverage it deserves given the size of Fontira

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Speaker 2: it's critically critically important to this country that it continues

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Speaker 2: to do well. And there within their rights, well within

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Speaker 2: the rights to go look this side of the business.

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Speaker 2: We want to have maybe an ipo it or flick

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Speaker 2: it off or whatever. But you've got to have the discussion.

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Speaker 2: You can't just go and do it. Tip Top I

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Speaker 2: think was a massive, massive mistake, and we let that happen.

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Speaker 2: So at least let's have a bit of a conversation

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Speaker 2: about it. Five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The the ouse. It's the fizz with business fiber take

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Speaker 1: your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Here is the nasdeck now crashes through four point eight

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Speaker 2: down seven hundred and thirty eight on the day. We

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Speaker 2: go back to mister Lutnick, who's been busy telling Americans

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Speaker 2: not to worry about the economy.

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Speaker 10: But there's going to be no recession in America.

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Speaker 2: New York Fedbank Survey of consumer expectations is out this morning.

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Speaker 2: Things don't look flash. February inflation a year from now

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Speaker 2: is expected to be around three point one percent. Hold on,

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Speaker 2: I thought we had inflation under control. Three point one

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Speaker 2: percent not under control. The Fed wants at it too.

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Here, our consumers expect every day items

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Speaker 2: to increase in cost over the next year, things like

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Speaker 2: food and rent and gas in college, meta costs. They're wrong,

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Speaker 2: of course, because Trump told us this. Because when you

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Speaker 2: put the tariffs on, the prices don't go up at all,

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Speaker 2: crusts go down. It's like magic, It's incredible what happens

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Speaker 2: be so beautiful, beautiful economy. They also expect unemployment, delinquency,

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Speaker 2: and credit access to noticeably deteriorate. There's the expectation that

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Speaker 2: home prices are going to increase by three point three percent.

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Speaker 2: Problem with that is, of course, is a home price

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Speaker 2: going up good or bad? I mean, you know, if

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Speaker 2: you've got a home going up three point three percent,

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Speaker 2: you'll take that all day long. Most households rate the

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Speaker 2: current financial situation as quote little change, but expect that

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Speaker 2: over the next twelve months it's going to deteriorate considerably,

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Speaker 2: and those expecting it the worst of it report that

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Speaker 2: it's at its highest level since November of twenty three.

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Speaker 2: So if you're feeling bad, you're feeling really bad at

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Speaker 2: the moment. But fortunately none of it will affect us

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Speaker 2: because the American economy is isolated, is not remotely global

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Speaker 2: and we of course are rampaging fort economically anyway, so

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Speaker 2: we're completely isolated from all of this. And so that's

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Speaker 2: why we're going to India, is that if I explain

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Speaker 2: that well or not. So we're going to India to

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Speaker 2: try and finish off not that they think we will,

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Speaker 2: but I hope we do. But anyway, we're going to

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Speaker 2: try and finish off this ft aidea that we had

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Speaker 2: many many many many many years ago. And then we

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Speaker 2: had a Foreign Minister for the Labor Party who hated

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Speaker 2: playing say nothing at about a glance. So now we are,

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Speaker 2: we're finally going up with a very large delegation. Dame

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Speaker 2: Theresa Walsh is the head of that particular business delegation.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to her directly after the news and then

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Speaker 2: of course the Prime Minister after seven thirty this morning

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Speaker 2: and just before he leaves the country for the Australian

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Speaker 2: Open New Zealand Open Champ. Paul Coles back with us

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Speaker 2: after eight.

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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day the

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Speaker 1: mi casking breakfast with the range Rover Villa designed to

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Speaker 1: intrigue and use Togsdad bently.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven, So the long away to trip to

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Speaker 2: India for the Prime Minister's off this weekend. Large delegation

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Speaker 2: to mind you, it's a large market and an etta

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Speaker 2: is long sort but particularly tricky for a farming country

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Speaker 2: like ours. Anyway, Dameterris Walsh is leading the business delegation

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Speaker 2: and is with us. A very good morning to you, Mike.

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Speaker 2: How big is big.

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Speaker 15: In terms of the country or the delegation?

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Speaker 2: No, the delegation big.

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Speaker 3: Actually yeah, Look.

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Speaker 15: The delegation, I'm only being the business delegation along with

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Speaker 15: Ross Taylor, the former black Cat. We've got about forty

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Speaker 15: odd people coming on that delegation and then there's also

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Speaker 15: a community delegation coming along as well.

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Speaker 2: Are there specifics you are looking to achieve or is

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Speaker 2: this a glad handing exercise to warm the relationship?

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Speaker 15: Look, warming the relationship is important, but it's definitely it's

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Speaker 15: definitely more than that. I think there's a range of things.

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Speaker 15: I think we as a business community need to learn

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Speaker 15: more about India. There ideals that are currently being done

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Speaker 15: that will be talked about while we are there, and

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Speaker 15: there'll be no doubt for the arrangements that come off

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Speaker 15: the back of it. But it's a good chance to

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Speaker 15: get in front of you know, chambers of commerce, heads

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Speaker 15: of industry over there, and actually learn, make ourselves visible,

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Speaker 15: ensure that we really understand what the opportunities are for

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Speaker 15: New Zealand, because, as you said, at the outset a

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Speaker 15: massive economy for us and relatively proximate.

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Speaker 2: How much business do you know is done there anyway

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Speaker 2: in an FTA or whatever just comes in over the

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Speaker 2: top of that.

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Speaker 15: Well, at the moment, I think in terms of New

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Speaker 15: Zealand's experts it's about one point five percent of our

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Speaker 15: exports today, which is actually very small when you think

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Speaker 15: about the size of the economy in India and for

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Speaker 15: anyone that doesn't know, I mean, within five years it's

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Speaker 15: probably going to be the third largest economy in the world.

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Speaker 15: So we've got a lot of growth opportunity here and

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Speaker 15: in particular in the egg refection. But even outside of that, tourism,

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Speaker 15: tech education, there's just a lot there to unveil for

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Speaker 15: New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this is in your wheelhouse or not,

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Speaker 2: but I've got a lot of text traffic this morning

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Speaker 2: talking about the infrastructure or lack of in India. So

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Speaker 2: in other words, yes, we want to do business and

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Speaker 2: they probably there's business with us, but when you come

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Speaker 2: to ports and stuff like that, connectivity is still an issue.

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Speaker 2: Is that fair or not?

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Speaker 16: It's sort of.

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Speaker 15: I mean, I think you know, for folks that have

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Speaker 15: been to India recently, there are parts of India that

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Speaker 15: are incredibly progressive. They've got a massive youth population that

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Speaker 15: are very tech savvy, and some cities are actually incredibly

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Speaker 15: progressive in different parts. When you talk about connectivity, it's

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Speaker 15: actually one of the things, speaking as the charity in

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Speaker 15: New Zealand that we're looking to get out of this

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Speaker 15: trippers to as we expand our network in the next

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Speaker 15: couple of years, as we get hold of aircraft, is

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Speaker 15: actually to look at flying to India. It's been something

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Speaker 15: we've been signaling and we will be meeting with folk

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Speaker 15: over there and making that part of the discussion.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you raise that because I was going to

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Speaker 2: raise it anyway. It seems the weirdest thing that you

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Speaker 2: can have that size market in roughly our region and

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Speaker 2: we have no direct link.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: Look, well I would agree with you, and I think

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Speaker 15: you know, my favorite party trick is to ask people

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Speaker 15: if in New Zealand was to fly to one more

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Speaker 15: international destination. Where would it be and it's normally torn

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Speaker 15: between in there and the UK, and so yeah, look

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Speaker 15: it's absolutely on the top of our radar. As you know, Mike,

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Speaker 15: we're a little short on aircraft just at the moment

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Speaker 15: with worldwide challenges, but that's going to change and we're

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Speaker 15: really looking forward to that.

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Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you appreciate it. Dame Tories Walsh,

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Speaker 2: the India Business delegation lead the Prime Minister obviously on

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Speaker 2: this after seven thirty ten past seven related matters. Winston

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Speaker 2: Peter's going to meet Marco Rubio. He's heading to New

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Speaker 2: York and d C. A whole bunch of Trump administration

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Speaker 2: people and other political contacts, and a bunch of people

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Speaker 2: at the United Nations as well. So it's going to

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Speaker 2: be fascinating to see what comes out of that little

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Speaker 2: north of the border. Very big day for Canada as

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Speaker 2: the governing party elected a new leader of Mark Carney,

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Speaker 2: after the resignation of course of Trudeau. Carney, you know

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Speaker 2: his name from the Central Bank, are both in Canada

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Speaker 2: and in England or Britain. Usually Trudeau staying on as

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister while Carney warms into the role and an

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Speaker 2: election has to be held before October. Bliven myle Otto

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Speaker 2: a bureau chief, Robert Fops with his Robert Morning, Good Morning.

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Speaker 2: I like him from his day's banking. Is he any

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Speaker 2: good as a politician?

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Speaker 7: Do we know?

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Speaker 14: Well, we don't know that actually, because he's when what

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Speaker 14: we have seen of him is that he's kind of

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Speaker 14: a wooden speaker, not surprisingly for somebody who's been a

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Speaker 14: central banker. And he doesn't really take questions very well,

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Speaker 14: tough questions from reporters. He's used to more softball questions

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Speaker 14: from financial reporters. And because he was the favorite to

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Speaker 14: win this race, he's he's been kind of avoiding a

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Speaker 14: lot of tough media questions. But he wanted an absolutely

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Speaker 14: resounding victory on Sunday night, eighty six percent vote from

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Speaker 14: the Party faithful, which is unheard of in recent times

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Speaker 14: to see somebody win in the leadership like that. And

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Speaker 14: that's largely because Canadians are scared stiff of what Donald

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Speaker 14: Trump is up to with his trade war.

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Speaker 2: Let me come back to that in just a couple

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Speaker 2: of moments. The fact that he's warming into the job.

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Speaker 2: The fact is anybody saying will look mt if you

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Speaker 2: want the job, to get into being the prime minister.

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Speaker 2: Stride a wire or else? What are you doing? Does

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Speaker 2: anyone signing that? Or is it sort of this is

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Speaker 2: a good deal.

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Speaker 14: Well, he will be Prime minister in the next coming days.

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Speaker 14: There's a transition to power, which he said will be

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Speaker 14: seamless and it will be quick. So we expect the

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Speaker 14: cabinet will be sworn in you know, Wednesday maybe at

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Speaker 14: the earliest, or Priday at the latest. So that's not

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Speaker 14: really the issue here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, is more of this? Is he more of the same?

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Speaker 2: Is he trueaut two point out or is he something

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Speaker 2: completely different for the Liberals?

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Speaker 14: No, he's completely different. First of all, mister Kearney has

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Speaker 14: been the Bank of Canada governor for both Canada and

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Speaker 14: the UK. He's enormously experienced. He knows a lot of

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Speaker 14: people in the business community and the international community at

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Speaker 14: the United Nations. Mister Trudeau came in as a charismenic

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Speaker 14: son of a former prime minister, but he was only

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Speaker 14: a high school drama teacher. Mister Carney has Oxford University,

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Speaker 14: Harvard educated. This guy has a lot of really serious accomplishments.

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Speaker 14: So you know nobody and that its accomplishments in handling

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Speaker 14: the global financial crisis in two thousand and eight and

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Speaker 14: Britain's briax Brexit was one of the reasons why you're

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Speaker 14: seeing a real surge in the polls from away from

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Speaker 14: the Conservative Party, which had been leading for a long

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Speaker 14: time for over a year and a half, double digit

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Speaker 14: numbers to mister Karney. In fact, when you ask Canadians

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Speaker 14: who's the most capable person to deal with President Trump

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Speaker 14: in his trade war, it's as ten to fifteen point

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Speaker 14: spread between mister Karney and Peter Polyev, who's the Conservative leader.

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Speaker 2: Everybody says it's a bioptyber. You got to hold a

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Speaker 2: but but the going to go early? Is that fair

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Speaker 2: or not?

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Speaker 14: Oh? Yes, they by next week we'll be into an

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Speaker 14: election campaign for either April twenty eighth or May fifth.

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Speaker 14: They're going to go right now for two reasons. One,

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Speaker 14: the momentum is in his way, and you know when

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Speaker 14: the mentum momentum is going your way, you have to

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Speaker 14: you take advantage of it. But also, the Conservatives are

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Speaker 14: cash rich, and they've been running attack ads in the

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Speaker 14: last week or so on every medium they can find

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Speaker 14: to try to tear apart mister Kearney's reputation. But when

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Speaker 14: an election is dropped, all the political parties are on

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Speaker 14: an equal footing because of spending limits. So that's the

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Speaker 14: second reason why they really want to get into an

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Speaker 14: election right away to stop the Tory attack ads against them.

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Speaker 2: What a fascinating time, Robert will Stone touch. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Robert fIF who's the Globe in Male Ottawa? Euroud chief?

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Speaker 2: You poll out Stateside for you in just a moment

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Speaker 3: At be.

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Speaker 2: Mike. How can Mark Carney be Canada's PM this week

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Speaker 2: when he's not a member of Parliament, which is pretty

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Speaker 2: much required under the Westminster system. Very good question. Quirk

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Speaker 2: of Canadian law says you don't have to be in

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Speaker 2: parliament to become the leader of the party and therefore

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Speaker 2: the Prime minister. In this case, they're called ridings, not electorates.

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Speaker 2: You get a riding. He's going to go have to

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Speaker 2: find a riding, so he will stand in the election

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Speaker 2: as a candidate for the riding that he chooses, and

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Speaker 2: I assume they'll take a fairly easy one so that

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Speaker 2: he actually wins it because it would be embarrassing if

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Speaker 2: he didn't. But nevertheless, that is you have nothing illegitimate

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Speaker 2: about what has happened in the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: Unusual but not illegitimate. Approval rating below fifty percent. New

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Speaker 2: poll out this morning in America for Trump, this is

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Speaker 2: the Daily Mail Jail Partners approval rating has dropped five

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Speaker 2: points in a week, from fifty four to forty nine.

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Speaker 2: The young people are deserting him eighteen to twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: Is are down eighteen points. But that's young people, isn't.

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Speaker 2: They don't know what they're I mean, they love it

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Speaker 2: one day, they hate it the next. Tariffs and the

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Speaker 2: economy seven and ten seventy percent feel the economy is worsening.

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Speaker 2: That's largely because it is. But here's the key, and

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Speaker 2: here's why he might be okay for now seventy two percent.

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Speaker 2: So they need to see the economy improved by next

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Speaker 2: year before they start blaming Trump. So he's got some

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Speaker 2: tailwind and he's got the old honeymoon to a degree.

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Speaker 2: Mikey seven Am News, and I've been thinking about this

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Speaker 2: is not a bad point. There's quite a bit of

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Speaker 2: pushback on this. This morning year seven Am News made

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Speaker 2: reference to the Maray economy and how much has grown

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Speaker 2: in the past six years. Regardless of whether that's good

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Speaker 2: for Maray, it's another example of separatism. Shouldn't we be

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Speaker 2: striving for growing the New Zealand economy. I've thought about

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Speaker 2: it a lot lately, and they do tend to segregate

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Speaker 2: it out, and for what reason I don't know. See

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Speaker 2: Nitahu for example, South Island Tribe treaty settlement. A lot

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Speaker 2: of money went their way, They've invested a lot, They've

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Speaker 2: done extremely well for themselves. Good luck to them. So

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Speaker 2: are they part of the New Zealand economy or the

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Speaker 2: Marrie economy? And how do you promote that? Do you

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Speaker 2: say we're part of the When you go to the world,

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Speaker 2: do you explain the Marie economy versus the New Zealand economy.

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Speaker 2: I'm not overly exercised about it, per se, certainly not

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Speaker 2: as exercised I as I am about a health report

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Speaker 2: that came out unfortunately on a Friday, and didn't get

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Speaker 2: anywhere near the coverage it needed. So we'll talk to

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister. But more I'll just background it for

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Speaker 2: of it, understand it. One netplus Grizzly the AI they

872
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 2: are your partners in productivity. PASKI now seventy twenty three.

873
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: So my long held suspicion oft produced for the Prime

874
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: Minister on Tuesday mornings, that the public service might well

875
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: be working against the government seems to have been laid

876
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: bare on the Deloitte report into the failed health system.

877
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 2: So as you'll be aware, we're going back to a

878
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: board from the commissioner. But what the report seems to

879
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: indicate is the board or commissioner is not really the issue.

880
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 2: The issue is in competence. The factor board was replaced

881
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: is not about whether it's a board. It's about the

882
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: fact they never had control of the money. They didn't

883
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: have a plan. They were hopeless, and hopelessness is hopelessness

884
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: no matter what the shape of it is. Structurally, more

885
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: worryingly is the reportage that tells us what they wanted

886
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: wasn't adhered to. It wasn't listened to, it wasn't acted on. Obviously,

887
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 2: in theory, a good governance structure would see this particular

888
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: pushback in that go and fix it. But you hadn't.

889
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: Competence and rejection dovetailing together, the end result being the

890
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: chaos that ensued. Now the report in furs the government

891
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 2: would have been better sticking with twenty Health boards. For

892
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 2: goodness sake. Now, my argument, if you've been listening to

893
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: the program for a few years, my argument was always

894
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: in a country the size I reckon, we needed about

895
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 2: four DHBs. That felt about right to me. The andrew

896
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 2: Little centralized system always had a Soviet vibe about it,

897
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: and then when your centralized system was overseen by buffoons,

898
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: you got the result. You did critical critical line in

899
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: the report. The center made requests, the district ignored them.

900
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 2: That's sabotage. There were no supporting action plans, ownership, budget impacts, tracking,

901
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 2: reporting or governments none. Health New Zealand did not have

902
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: the right executable board level controls. This is yet more

903
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: labor party and competency. Of course, all ideology, no delivery.

904
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: By the time you had the Brian Roche report out

905
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: the other day into the public service generally, surely we

906
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: have a case that shows not only do we have

907
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 2: a bloated structure of too many people, but many of

908
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: those in that bloated structure and bloating are hopeless and

909
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: or undermining what is trying to be done. Doge anyone

910
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: asking Mike On the last night's news there was a

911
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: story about the increasing value of these mariassets. Tooko Morgan

912
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: hah ha, tooko Seid. Our people have managed to break

913
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: the shackles of dependency on the crown. To me, that's

914
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: good news. So why do the Mari Party in the

915
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: media forever portray Marie as a bunch of no hopes,

916
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: continuously demanding hand auts with a very very good question,

917
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: if you look at the so called Mario So there's

918
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: two parts of this. Do you look at the Mari

919
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: economy or just the economy. So let's look at the

920
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: Mari economy. There are lots of people in the Marie

921
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: economy who've done and out of treaty settlements, hundreds of

922
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 2: millions of dollars collectively billions have gone into the so

923
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: called Maria economy and many, many, many of them have

924
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: done extremely well. They're very sharp, astute operators, and they've

925
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: grown their portfolios exponentially, and good luck to them. But

926
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 2: you wouldn't want that to be part of the discourse

927
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: because then you'd have nothing to moan about, would you,

928
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: And so Debbie and co. Just want to moan incessantly.

929
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: People are John Tamahery got a PhD in misery and

930
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 2: so that's all they know how to deal with and

931
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: so it doesn't suit there their modus operandi if they

932
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: have to spend their days explaining how successful Murray have become,

933
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: because then they couldn't keep their hand out asking for

934
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: even more, could they? Surely you can join those dots.

935
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: Can't be that hard, can it? Prime Minister's off to

936
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: it anyway? More on this health report, once again disappointed

937
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: it it wasn't given the sort of coverage. Did I

938
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: do want to know? Are we part of the coalition

939
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: of the willing? Because there is, as Catherine pointed out

940
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,479
Speaker 2: quite rightly, there's big military meeting. As listening to Richard

941
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 2: Marles yesterday who's the Defense Minister of Australia, he says

942
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: that they're going to be there. They're being represented by

943
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: the Vice Marshal and one called die Turtan. Australia's there.

944
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: They're handing over the tanks, they're handing over the money.

945
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: They are part of the coalition of the willing?

946
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: Are we?

947
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: And if we are? In what form? The Prime minitere

948
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: for a Tuesday morning as with us, and of course

949
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: we may well touch on the polls as well, after

950
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: the news, which is next. You're a news talks.

951
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: The New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic

952
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate, finding the buyers others

953
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: can't use togs, dead b Paul.

954
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 2: New Zealand Squash Open of course, packed house and Christus

955
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: record crowd for a squash teamam in New Zealand, which

956
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: is good. Anyways, after Australian they take on the Australians.

957
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: That tournament starts Today's Got to Buy, So I'm assuming

958
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 2: he's backing himself for the Australian opened as well. Anyways,

959
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: back for this up for eight o'clock this morning. Meantime

960
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 2: Prime Minister Christopher Luxe and very good morning to you.

961
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: Good morning Mike, how are you today? Very well? Thank you.

962
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: Are we part of the Coalition of the Willing?

963
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 16: Well, we've actually I actually haven't had a dreek chat

964
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 16: with Keir Starmer, but we obviously are good dialogue with

965
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 16: the UK and we're monitoring the situation pretty closely, and

966
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 16: of course, as I've said before, we're open to it,

967
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 16: but that's obviously subject to what is the shape of

968
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 16: a final settlement and you know, but we're very open

969
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 16: to it and we're participating in different conversations that are

970
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 16: going on.

971
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: There's a meeting in Paris tomorrow among military heads. Are

972
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: we represented or not?

973
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, we are.

974
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 16: We actually have our New Zealand Defense Force defense at

975
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 16: Tasha in London, who's going to be attending that meeting

976
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 16: in person. And then Mike, we have our chiefs of

977
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 16: Defense down here in Wellington attending virtually. So that is

978
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 16: actually as you know, to discuss post conflict Ukraine, and

979
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 16: we're one of the topics obviously, and you know we

980
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 16: we you know, include as there you know, we further

981
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 16: talk about the coalition of the Welling which has been

982
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 16: led by the UK. We're open to it, but as

983
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 16: I said, conflicts still ongoing. We need to see the

984
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 16: shape of the settlement.

985
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: Ask you about it. A couple of weeks ago, we

986
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: were need close working at a decision on boots on

987
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: the ground or not.

988
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 16: No, no, we need it's just all too premature and

989
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 16: too much speculation or you know, we've we'll go through

990
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 16: these meetings tomorrow and we'll see where it's at. We

991
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 16: keep monitoring it really closely, but you know, we really

992
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 16: do need to see the shape of a settlement. You know,

993
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 16: obviously present Zlensky's in Saudi Arabia today and conversations with

994
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 16: the US and Ukraine, which is important. You know, they happening,

995
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 16: which is important because they've got to work together to

996
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 16: get that piece that we need to see.

997
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: Okay, not enough coverage was given to this Deloitte report,

998
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: seventy seven pages into the health board slash commissioner, and

999
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: it goes back to what I've been asking you a

1000
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 2: number of times over the months, and that is do

1001
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: you think the public service actively work against you?

1002
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 4: Well?

1003
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 16: I don't think so, but it's just that I don't

1004
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 16: think there's been a clear expectation on the public service

1005
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 16: about what we want them to do. As I said

1006
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 16: to you in recent weeks, you know, I expect them

1007
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 16: to treat the public like a customer and the health system.

1008
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 16: I expect them to be focused on patients first and

1009
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 16: foremost come through that lens on every decision they make.

1010
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 16: And as you saw on that report, what we had

1011
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 16: was pretty woeful management of a complex healthcare system. And

1012
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 16: what I'm frustrated with, and I've talked to you about

1013
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 16: it before, is you know, we've put record amounts of

1014
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 16: cash and we're actually doing a really good job of

1015
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 16: actually growing the workforce and paying nurses more than they've

1016
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 16: ever been paid, and yet we're not getting good outcomes.

1017
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 16: And so that's why, you know, Samon Brown, I think

1018
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 16: last week, you know, we started to talk about what

1019
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 16: we call primary health care, which is how to get

1020
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 16: faster access to a GPS you don't clog up eds.

1021
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 16: But we also need the organization to be a high

1022
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 16: performing organization.

1023
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: It's really organization. Here's your problem. So you got rid

1024
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: of the board, or really got rid of the board

1025
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: and put in a commissioner. Now Brown's put in a

1026
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: board instead of a commissioner. It doesn't really matter whether

1027
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: it's commissioner a board if you've gotten competence and competences

1028
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 2: and competence. But when the set this is a quote

1029
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: from the report, the center made requests and the districts

1030
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 2: ignored them. Now that's not not knowing what's going on.

1031
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: That's sabotage.

1032
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 16: I think it's in competence. I think the reality was

1033
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 16: that was an absolutely botched merger. In the sense of

1034
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 16: your twenty dhps that understood their local communities, as imperfect

1035
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 16: as they may have been, there was advice not to

1036
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 16: whack them all together into one big super model called

1037
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 16: Health New Zealand. The middle of a freaking pandemic, they

1038
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 16: went and did it anyway. They didn't actually merge the

1039
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 16: entities properly, they didn't actually set up a proper organization

1040
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 16: with who's accountable for war. They chuck two and a

1041
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 16: half thousand more managers than over the top. So the

1042
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 16: bottom line is I look at it as to be honest, Mike,

1043
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 16: as I've got the money in, I'm getting the workforce growing,

1044
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 16: I've got clarity on what I expect the patients to

1045
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 16: see at the end of the day and to feel

1046
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 16: and to experience.

1047
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: But the issue is the delivery of it.

1048
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 16: Sits in the organization. It's an organizational challenge. And yes,

1049
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 16: we put a commissioner in for governance because we wanted

1050
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 16: to expose and get real clarity about what the hell

1051
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 16: was going on. We need to revert that back to

1052
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 16: a board, so that was entirely appropriate that he's there.

1053
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 4: For a year to do that job.

1054
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 16: We need to obviously to appoint a new CEO of

1055
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 16: Health New Zealand, new CEO of Director General of Ministry

1056
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 16: of Health as well, but we need to get the

1057
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 16: organizational structures right. You know, when you've got a large

1058
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 16: executive team that doesn't meet regularly, that doesn't seem to

1059
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 16: know who does what to who, that is just mush

1060
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 16: at the center, let alone. By the time it gets

1061
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 16: out through the organization, the fourteen layers of management, it's

1062
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 16: a real organizational challenge. And the money's there, the workforce

1063
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 16: is growing, the clarity about what we want to see

1064
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 16: from that system is clear, and it's now about execution

1065
00:49:59,239 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 16: of that system.

1066
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 2: Okay, Nikola Willis is trying to, I'm led to believe,

1067
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: negotiate her way around these rules that the Central Bank

1068
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 2: put in place for the retail banks as to how

1069
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: much money they need to keep aside for a rainy day.

1070
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: This is all's thing. If she can do that, does

1071
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: that still leave the Reserve Bank independent?

1072
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1073
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: It does.

1074
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 16: I mean I think she's you know, she's quite entitled

1075
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 16: to and I'm encouraging, you know, of her to do that.

1076
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 16: Which is to say, look, banks holding less capital, if

1077
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 16: it actually ultimately helps it grow the economy, how does

1078
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 16: it do that? We should lower interest rates and therefore

1079
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 16: that improves productivity and that could add to growth if

1080
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 16: we get well.

1081
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 2: And I tool growth about it but I thought that

1082
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 2: bank governor's job, Well we.

1083
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 16: Can Nicholas got powers that she can actually get you

1084
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Speaker 16: some direction over the Reserve governor. Well, no, she's she's

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Speaker 16: got she's got some influence on that, and so she's

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Speaker 16: taking advice around what she can do around capital holdings.

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Speaker 16: She hasn't taken anything to Cabinet.

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Speaker 2: There isn't.

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Speaker 16: Frankly at this point, Micah timing on it because as

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Speaker 16: you know, we've also got this FEC Work and Finance

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Speaker 16: Expendence Committee going into banking competition, and I think when

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Speaker 16: we actually make moves, we want to make the right

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Speaker 16: ones and think it all through. So that is certainly

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Speaker 16: one of the things in the frame, which is you know,

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Speaker 16: and why wouldn't we do it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, like you, but you do have to have

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Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank as an independent operator. If they say, well,

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Speaker 2: as Adrian All said, we want this X number of

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Speaker 2: billion dollars set aside, and the Finance minutster goes, well, no, sorry,

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Speaker 2: my number is different. That makes you look like Muldoon,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it.

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Speaker 16: No, I don't think so. I think, you know, but

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Speaker 16: there are powers that Nicola and any Minister of Finance has,

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Speaker 16: and I think this is entirely appropriate. There was a

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Speaker 16: lot of debate at the time. It's whether it was

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Speaker 16: the right thing or not. And frankly, I'm interested in

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Speaker 16: growth and if this means there's no question regrustrating things

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Speaker 16: going on, we're.

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Speaker 2: All glad All is gone. He was hopeless, But the

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00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: point is he was independent on that the banks from

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Speaker 2: in front of the Select Committee again yesterday, is anything

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Speaker 2: actually happening with that? They said the same thing yesterday

1113
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: as they said the other day. They're defending the corner

1114
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 2: and good luck to them. But what are you doing

1115
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: about it?

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00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 16: Well, there's a number of things, as we've talked about before.

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00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 16: I mean, we've obviously you advice on the capital holdings.

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00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 16: We've obviously taken advice also on getting capital into Kiwi

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00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 16: Bank so it can get more lending, going out to

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Speaker 16: places we've got further question and going on bank chairs

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Speaker 16: and CEOs around. You know, while they're defunding certain sectors

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00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 16: in our economy, which is not acceptable.

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Speaker 2: Listen to what Antonia Watson said yesterday. She gave an

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Speaker 2: explanation for that. I don't agree with it. I think

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Speaker 2: she's wrong, but you know she's going to say that

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Speaker 2: till she's blue in the face. Question is what do

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00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,439
Speaker 2: you can all come forward? They can all come forward.

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Speaker 2: We'll digest what they all say and we'll put together

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Speaker 2: a package.

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Speaker 16: But when we make the interventions, we want to make

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00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 16: sure that it's quite comprehensive and thought through and there's

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Speaker 16: a package of interventions that actually makes.

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00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: Sure And when are those interventions coming well?

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00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 16: As I said, capital, she's taking advice on the KI

1135
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 16: bank piece. She's taking advice on the capital piece. The

1136
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 16: FEC thing is still running its way through, particularly around

1137
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 16: rural banking and around defunding and general questions around banking competition.

1138
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Speaker 16: That'll come together in the next few months.

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Speaker 2: Okay, why taking tribunal Richard Preble quit when you're going

1140
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: to do something about that. Not Richard Prebble, but the tribunal. Yeah.

1141
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Speaker 16: I mean, well, we've said for a long time and

1142
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 16: we've got work underway.

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00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 2: The students. There's a lot of work away. There's a

1144
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 2: lot of pieces work, a lot of pieces moving, a

1145
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: lot of time. Gee, oh my god, action time. I

1146
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 2: would say to you, my friend, that there is been

1147
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: a hell of a lot of action on health. Has

1148
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: been a hell of a lot of action on an infrastructure.

1149
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 2: Something is a hell of a lot of action going

1150
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 2: on into you. That's just the last three weeks. Sorry.

1151
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: In that case, when you try to do something about

1152
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 2: the way tank intribute, yeah, we're just wigging them up. Well, no,

1153
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: we want to. Basically, I just made a which side

1154
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: of the debate you're on.

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Speaker 16: Everyone says in a post treaty settlement world, you should

1156
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 16: be thinking about what's their role going forward. That's a

1157
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 16: legitimate question. It's a pretty big question because it's been

1158
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 16: that you know, we've had it around since nineteen seventy five,

1159
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 16: and so that's the work that Tama, Poe, Tucker and

1160
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 16: others are kicking off, and so that needs to be

1161
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Speaker 16: properly thought through. We'll bring that to cabinet, we'll have

1162
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 16: a conversation, we'll come out again, he's got work underway,

1163
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 16: already started that work, and we'll have more to say

1164
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 16: about that.

1165
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 2: Am I impatient or something?

1166
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 16: I just like just I just think it's just made

1167
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 16: no disrespect. But we're working harder than any other government.

1168
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 16: We're putting through more legislation to get things changed and

1169
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 16: sorted than we've ever done. We inherit a hell of

1170
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 16: a mess and you know, we're we're working freaking hard

1171
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 16: every single day to make sure that we're cleaning up

1172
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 16: the mess, but more importantly seeing the country up for

1173
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 16: great success. I think, you know, to bring one hundred

1174
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 16: investors here that have got six trillion dollars for a

1175
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 16: government that's you know, under successive government's never really been that.

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00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 16: You encouraging of foreign capital come to the country.

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Speaker 2: That's good, that's good, it's all good.

1178
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 16: Just get freeway to Northlands.

1179
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 2: You know, are you going to get Do you go

1180
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: to India with you? Will you sign something in India?

1181
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: Will something tangible come out of India? Yeah, I'm sure

1182
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: there will be, but we sure there will be. I mean,

1183
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 2: you don't go to India without knowing this stuff. Something

1184
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 2: going to come out of this.

1185
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 16: You will have to wait till we get to India.

1186
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 16: But what I'm saying is you've got you can't give

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00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 16: up on India like the last lot. You know, we've

1188
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 16: got to It's a big country, biggest in the world's

1189
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Speaker 16: third biggest economy, massive geopolitical player now in a multipoler world,

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Speaker 16: massive desper here at home, so security, trade, you know,

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00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 16: peopled links, that's important. We've had to build back the relationships. Frankly, Mike,

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00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 16: in the last fourteen months they were non existent. And

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Speaker 16: I think we've had really good engagements with trade and

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00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 16: foreign affairs and defense and prime ministers and presidents from India.

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Speaker 16: And you know the fact that our promise to mode

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Speaker 16: has invited us to India isn't something that's done lightly.

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Speaker 16: I'm the first promise to go in a long long time,

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Speaker 16: and it's important. That's the next stage of just keeping

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Speaker 16: them momentum up, so we deepen up the relationship and

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Speaker 16: all the.

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Speaker 2: Next time travel. Well, see you in a couple of

1202
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 2: you're not here next week. I take it you want

1203
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 2: to do one from India. I'm in. If the time

1204
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 2: zones work, I'll do it. Course there they always work.

1205
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: I'm up twenty four to seven. If you're up twenty

1206
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 2: four cent, well let's do it next Tuesday. Come on,

1207
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: any time you worry name, what do you there? I'm

1208
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven. I'll say, yeah, dan'g you worry?

1209
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: All right? Good ball, befoord to it next Tuesday. Christopher

1210
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: from India thirteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Eight The Mike hosting Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

1212
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: Power by the news talks.

1213
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Speaker 2: It'd be if you can be bothered, get hold of

1214
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: the Deloitte report. It's only seventy seven pages. It won't killer,

1215
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: just gives you an insight into the level of incompetence

1216
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: in this country that we are dealing with. And a

1217
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: very good and related matter. It's to be found on

1218
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: the Herald this morning in the media world. This is

1219
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 2: at Auckland Transport their outdoor advertising contracts. It's a massive contract.

1220
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: It's a three hundred and fifty million dollar contract over

1221
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: a ten year period. It's been going on forever. The

1222
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: new contract should have started on Gen one, did it No?

1223
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: Why not? They won't say it's all public money, it's

1224
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 2: all rate payers money. They're going to send out another

1225
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 2: run RFPA request for proposal process this week. They hope

1226
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 2: the new contracts will be in placed by the end

1227
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: of the year, just the one year late. So they

1228
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: pulled the pin back in December after an eighteen month process,

1229
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 2: eighteen months to achieve literally nothing. And in the article

1230
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Speaker 2: this morning it's very good Sea. You have three contractors

1231
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 2: who've collectively dedicated six hundred hours to the outdoor tender

1232
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: between June of twenty three and December of twenty four.

1233
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 2: That's eight hundred thousand dollars down the toilet. Two full time,

1234
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: eight staff members. They're earning somewhere between one hundred and

1235
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 2: ten and one hundred and seventy. The other win earning

1236
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 2: between one hundred and thirty and a couple one hundred

1237
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. That's right, working for at a couple of

1238
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. Very nice. So add those together you've

1239
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: got well in excess of a million dollars that has

1240
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 2: been spent of rate payers money conducting officially thirty five

1241
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 2: meetings to achieve as of this point, literally nothing. And

1242
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: it's that sort of an adequacy and incompetency that is

1243
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: holding this country back, both at local and national level.

1244
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: Ate away from it.

1245
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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking breakfasts with the range rover Villa News

1246
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: togs headb.

1247
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Speaker 2: I'm holding back my main negotiating weapon. They just rang

1248
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 2: back and they were whining already about the hours and

1249
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: how we're going to do this and how we're going

1250
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: to sort it out. My main weapon in negotiation is

1251
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: John Key used to do it. How do you think

1252
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: that's going to go down? Mike? What a delight and

1253
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: he did too. He used to infuriate the gallery because

1254
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 2: of course the idea is the gallery travel with the

1255
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: Prime Minister, and so they get the Prime Minister exclusively

1256
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: to themselves, and then he'd ring me and they'll.

1257
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 14: Go hack him your ringing, Hosking.

1258
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 4: I think you used to infuriate his own staff as well,

1259
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 4: because they would tell us now quite specifically, that he

1260
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 4: wouldn't do.

1261
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 2: It, and then then he did. Yeah, exactly. So anyway,

1262
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 2: so we're still negotiating on that. And I will not

1263
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: take no for an answers. No reason why the prime

1264
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: ministers just because you're an India you can't ring us

1265
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: and talk to us on the program. It's not like

1266
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: something magical happens. And I'm sorry, I'm overseas. The phones

1267
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 2: don't work. I mean, he could say, look, I took

1268
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: I took the air Force plane and I don't know

1269
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 2: where I am and there's no communication. Now I may mean,

1270
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Speaker 2: I fully understand that, Mike. What a delight, thank you?

1271
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: Oh no, sorry, but what a delight. What other prime

1272
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: minister would have such a relaxed professional relationship and a

1273
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: good old laugh with the radio host. Good on you,

1274
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: Thank you, Peter, Mike, you're ongoing attempts to belittle lux

1275
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 2: and are starting to do with and well, I don't

1276
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 2: know where I'm at here. I mean, what's what's going on?

1277
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: I got to love I got to hate her. Hey,

1278
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: stop demanding exact dates and times. Well I wasn't demanding

1279
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 2: exact dates and times. I said, have you got a

1280
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: time frame? It's not really I'm not saying is it tuesday?

1281
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: Is it tuosed that twelve? Is it choose that one? Fifteen?

1282
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 4: That would be good.

1283
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: It would be good, of course it would be good.

1284
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: But me, i'd be demeaning there, Glennam, I'd be belittling them.

1285
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: So I don't do that. I just ask for rough

1286
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: time frames. But at least one of you thought I

1287
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: did a good job. I don't have to be here,

1288
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,959
Speaker 2: you know only I'm only I'm only here.

1289
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 4: For when you're past retirement age.

1290
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: I don't have to be you won't be gone.

1291
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 4: Get rid of me.

1292
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: Paul Cole won the New Zealand Open of course over

1293
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Speaker 2: the weekend. Fabulous. Send these off to Australia who hopefully

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Speaker 2: do the same thing. So we'll look forward to the

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Speaker 2: catch up in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hoskame would be sateful, engaging and vitally the mic

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Speaker 1: casking breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities, Life your Way,

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Speaker 1: news togs.

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Speaker 2: He'd been markets through in three four The Dow Jones

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Speaker 2: currently with a fifty something minutes of trading to go

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Speaker 2: for the days down eleven hundred and fifty fifty two

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Speaker 2: fifty six down to forty one thousand, six hundred and

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Speaker 2: forty five. The Nasdak has cracked through earlier on this morning.

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Speaker 2: If you weren't listening, Andrew Kellahs says, occasionally on a

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Speaker 2: really bad day and a really difficult to hear read,

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Speaker 2: you see a three percent full on the Nasdak. We're

1307
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Speaker 2: seeing four point six and counting, and so this is

1308
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Speaker 2: all over tariffs, it's all over the economy. But don't worry.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry. They know what they're doing. At is seven

1310
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Speaker 2: minutes past eight. A good start of the year for

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Speaker 2: our biggest name in squash. Full col defended as New

1312
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Speaker 2: Zealand title of the weekend, as we told you about.

1313
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Speaker 2: Of course it's onto The Australian Open begins today. But

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Speaker 2: he's got a buy so that gives him a chance

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Speaker 2: to jump on the phone have a word with us.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Yeah, good morning, thank you.

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Speaker 4: So how did the.

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Speaker 2: Weekend feel for you? I mean, gives must be a

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Speaker 2: bit special given the old hometown.

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Speaker 3: Oh, the whole week was pretty special. From you know,

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Speaker 3: when I walked in into the venue on Monday, I

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Speaker 3: could I just put this weird sort of feeling that

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Speaker 3: it was going to be a wicked week and the

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Speaker 3: venue was special with anybody in it. And then when

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Speaker 3: it was you know, in the weekend, when it was

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Speaker 3: atacked or twelve hundred people, it was something a memory

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Speaker 3: that I'll sort of cheer USh forever.

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Speaker 2: Now did it sort of look any different? I mean

1329
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 2: that stage or the core on the stage. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's not the first time it's ever been done, obviously,

1331
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: but from a player's point of view, from an esthetic anyway,

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Speaker 2: it was absolutely brilliant. As a player. Do you notice

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01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I think everyone when they walked in they

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Speaker 3: sort of got that feeling of, you know, it did

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Speaker 3: feel special and it felt different. And I think you

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01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 3: can tell by everyone thought it was really up for

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Speaker 3: the tournament and really wanted to do well and play well.

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Speaker 3: And I think that just goes to show how good

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Speaker 3: the sort of venue set up was. I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: as soon as you get something like that, you can

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Speaker 3: see the players feed off the energy and the atmosphere

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Speaker 3: that are there. So it was a really good week

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Speaker 3: everyone involved, Like for me especially obviously, like you said,

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Speaker 3: being my hometown. But you know, I know all the

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Speaker 3: people that came from abroad had such a good time,

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Speaker 3: and you know, the crowd welcomed them in the true kay,

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Speaker 3: So it was great to see.

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Speaker 2: And what about the pressure did you feel that, given

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Speaker 2: you know, you're defending the title?

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Speaker 3: Actually not so much, to be honest, I sort of

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Speaker 3: the last couple of years I probably felt a bit

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Speaker 3: more pressure playing, Yeah, but this I just sort of

1354
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Speaker 3: went in the mindset that I really just wanted to

1355
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Speaker 3: soak it all up and base it rather than try

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Speaker 3: and block it out. So I had a lot of

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Speaker 3: my family there and I was just just hanging out

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Speaker 3: with them during the day and enjoying it. Then you know,

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Speaker 3: when I went to play and seeing the crowd, I

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Speaker 3: just sort of, you know, really soak it up rather

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Speaker 3: than trying to block it out. I think, you know

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Speaker 3: sometimes and I try and block it out, that it

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Speaker 3: actually creates more more pressure and more nervous nervousness there.

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Speaker 3: So I felt mentally felt great all week and you know,

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Speaker 3: just trying to try and use this as a bit

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Speaker 3: of a leaping board for the for the rest of

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Speaker 3: the season.

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Speaker 2: And when don't we talk about the hometown? I mean,

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Speaker 2: is it is it really a hometown? I mean, christ

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Speaker 2: You you came to board, didn't you.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm definitely a Greymouth boy through and through, but

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Speaker 3: I came over here to do boarding school, so I

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Speaker 3: have a lot of friends and most of my squash

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Speaker 3: was played in christ Chip so definitely feels like a

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Speaker 3: bit of a home for my squash specifically. But you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm always a grave enough for you. But yeah, like

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Speaker 3: it was a it was a good week to see

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Speaker 3: so many familiar faces that I, you know, played into

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Speaker 3: club with on a Tuesday night.

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Speaker 2: Now the sport itself, I mean there was a record

1382
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Speaker 2: number of people watching that our Sun for example, he

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Speaker 2: was at the Edinburgh Squash Club. They were all watching it.

1384
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Speaker 2: It seems squash has got a bit of a thing

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Speaker 2: going at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, mate, for sure. We just got

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Speaker 3: into the Olympics for the first time. Which is a

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Speaker 3: great boost for squash. But seeing this week at christ

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Speaker 3: Church and the New Zealand specifically, it's it's taken off

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Speaker 3: a lot.

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Speaker 14: Man.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of support around the sport in New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: which is great to see. We've got a young junior

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Speaker 3: coming through now which is really nice to see as well.

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Speaker 3: So as in a pretty healthy shape in museum I think,

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Speaker 3: and you know, if we can get a few more

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Speaker 3: juniors coming through and pushing onto the international stage, that

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Speaker 3: would just be like that next step that we need.

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Speaker 3: But it's definitely a healthy community here and that just

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Speaker 3: showed the numbers of ticket sales this week and.

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Speaker 2: Chrish it fantastic. Listen, hold on mate, we'll come back

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Speaker 2: to you just a couple of moment talk more squash

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01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 2: and talk about the rest of the year coming up.

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Speaker 2: Paul cole More shortly eleven past.

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Speaker 1: Eight The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast, a hard

1406
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Speaker 1: radio car It Bay News Talks, It be.

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Speaker 2: It set Me fourteen past day Paul Coles, I guess

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Speaker 2: on his way to was trading for the open there

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Speaker 2: actually speaking to him as Paul, let me, I'll come

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Speaker 2: back to the Olympics in just a moment, But so

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Speaker 2: what have we got. You've got a title the other

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Speaker 2: day in America, you got the title over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: So so it's a good start, good year.

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Speaker 13: Yes it was.

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Speaker 3: I've been playing really well. I just haven't been getting

1416
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 3: the you know, the winds of the tournaments, and you know,

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01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 3: that's probably just putting a bit of pressure on myself

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01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 3: to win the events. So, like I said, this week,

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Speaker 3: it was more about soaking up the atmosphere and enjoying it.

1420
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Speaker 3: And I played the best squash I'll played all season

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Speaker 3: and got another title. So yeah, definitely feel feeling good

1422
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Speaker 3: in the mental space. And like I said, my squash

1423
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 3: has been there all season. I feel like I've been

1424
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 3: hitting it really well, just not quite pissing it all together.

1425
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I made I'm looking forward to pushing off

1426
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Speaker 3: for the rest of the season, Excited to keep playing.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, mentally, feeling really good now and the

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Speaker 3: squash is there. So I got a couple of big

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Speaker 3: events that I'm really targeting coming up and just looking

1430
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Speaker 3: forward to those.

1431
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Speaker 2: I was going to ask about that, actually, So of

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Speaker 2: all the tournaments you can play, how many do you

1433
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 2: target and how do you balance that up? You know,

1434
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 2: with travel and fitness and fatigue and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got probably nine big tournaments a year now,

1436
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 3: so obviously I try and I try and not play

1437
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 3: too many events before them. That takes a bit out

1438
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 3: of you. So normally try and have like a training

1439
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 3: block before the big ones, which is I said about

1440
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 3: nine a year, and then pick color ones around that

1441
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 3: that's at my timetable. Obviously open for me is one

1442
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 3: that I always target and want to feel good coming into,

1443
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 3: so that's you know, we take that off. But then

1444
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 3: I've got Will Champs in May, so just sort of

1445
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 3: trying to plan in a schedule where I'm not too

1446
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 3: fatigue from travel or tournament play going into that one.

1447
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 2: And as far as Australia goes, having got this title,

1448
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 2: is it the same field roughly, so you'll go and

1449
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 2: feeling pretty good about winning in Australia this week as

1450
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 2: well or not.

1451
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely top threve in that one as well. So

1452
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 3: the draw definitely is pretty similar to the couple were

1453
01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 3: coming from overseas because it's a slightly bigger event. But yeah, basically,

1454
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 3: you know, my jaw is actually eily similar as what

1455
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 3: it was this week, so yeah, looking feeling confident, and

1456
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 3: I'm feeling energy wise, feeling pretty good. So I have

1457
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 3: a lot of friends and I as well. I have

1458
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 3: I played a lot of my squash there when I

1459
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 3: started that professional so I haven't been back there and

1460
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,439
Speaker 3: you know, ten ideas, So looking forward to to kicking

1461
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 3: off there in a few days now.

1462
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 2: You mentioned the World Champions in Chicago this year, and

1463
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 2: I know there's another big one in Washington coming up

1464
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 2: as well. Is America playing an increasingly large role or

1465
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 2: sort of omniprison and squash or am I just making

1466
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 2: that up?

1467
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Speaker 3: No, They've always got you know, it's quite a lot

1468
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 3: of importament's floating around in America. I think it's quite

1469
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 3: the problem they have is squash has paid in you

1470
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 3: know a lot of country clubs where the joining sea

1471
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 3: is very very expensive, so not everyone has the access

1472
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Speaker 3: to play squass there. But there's a definitely like a

1473
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 3: like I said, a lot of sort of courts and

1474
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 3: stuff around. It's just getting the accessibilities to everyone. I

1475
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,959
Speaker 3: think the Olympics, especially being in America, that definitely making

1476
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 3: this was that and I think that's a whole lot

1477
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 3: of centers that are are more public rather than private

1478
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 3: which is is great to see. And yeah, like there's

1479
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 3: definitely some really strong woman coming through and some younger

1480
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 3: guys coming through as well. They're doing really well at

1481
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 3: the junior level now, so their program is doing well.

1482
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: So in general you would argue, what in terms of

1483
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 2: talent and players and young people coming through the game

1484
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 2: is improving.

1485
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. There's definitely definitely some more countries getting involved,

1486
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 3: which is great to see, and some countries that you

1487
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Speaker 3: might not expect, like used to be a powerhouse and

1488
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 3: Aussie but you know, they're not sort of there anymore.

1489
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 3: But there's a few more countries like America stepping up

1490
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 3: and it's great to see that the sport's going quite

1491
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 3: global now.

1492
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: And when you mentioned the Olympics, I mean, have you

1493
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: thought about how you target that? What does it mean?

1494
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 2: I mean, as a world championship more important than a

1495
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,439
Speaker 2: gold medal, advice versa, it doesn't matter.

1496
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Speaker 3: It's been quite funny for me, as you know, I'm

1497
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 3: late in my career, but it's it's like a new

1498
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 3: process from me. I've never had an Olympic campaign and

1499
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 3: so i'm you know, speaking to a few people from

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01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 3: high performance sport just on how you sort of prep

1501
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 3: for an Olympic campaign, which is it's quite weird because it's,

1502
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 3: you know, a four year process, and like I said,

1503
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 3: this is I'm thirty two, and this is the first

1504
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 3: time I've sort of thought about a four year plan.

1505
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 3: I've always thought about having World Champs every month one

1506
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 3: it's once every year, but this is obviously like a

1507
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 3: four year plan. So it's quite cool to experience it.

1508
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 3: And you know, you sort of when you get involved

1509
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 3: with prepping for an Olympic Games, you really feel how

1510
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 3: important it is. So I'm super excited for that. But

1511
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 3: you know, I've got a few will Champs between now

1512
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 3: and then, so I'm sort of focusing on the World Champs,

1513
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 3: but definitely in the Olympics. And there's something pretty big

1514
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 3: for me.

1515
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 2: Fantastic. And when you talk about late in your career,

1516
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts around that, what are you looking at? Physical? Mental?

1517
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 2: Bit of both?

1518
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, both.

1519
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 3: Obviously, I think squash is a very physical sport, so

1520
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 3: if you don't, you know, I'm pretty smart of my body.

1521
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 3: But you know, I mean, age is definitely a factor.

1522
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,480
Speaker 3: If you start slowing down, then it's just a disadvantage

1523
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 3: purelyer there, so it's about, you know, keeping my schedule

1524
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 3: and my training that keeps me in shape too later

1525
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 3: in my career. But I mean the way the technologies

1526
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 3: go in these days that you can play till you're

1527
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 3: thirty five for six thirty eight, it's obviously just a

1528
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 3: lot depends on the sort of physical side. I think,

1529
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 3: you know, mentally it's pretty easy to get up for

1530
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 3: a little bit game or a World champ, so it's

1531
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 3: not really an issue. But obviously that's the body's not

1532
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 3: doing what the mine wants to do, then you've got

1533
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 3: a bit of an issue.

1534
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 2: Brilliant. Congratulations again on the weekend. Go well in Australia

1535
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 2: this week and hopefully we'll talk again before the end

1536
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 2: of the year.

1537
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 3: Thanks quite really appreciating cool.

1538
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 2: Nowhere is it all talk? Sir Paul Cole on his

1539
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 2: way to Australia for the week. It's a what has

1540
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 2: he got? He's got after this one? He's got the

1541
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 2: German Open, some champs in London, the Manchester Open, then

1542
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 2: the World qualifying. Then you've got the big International Open

1543
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 2: in Egypt in the early part of April. It must

1544
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 2: be interesting. We should talk to somebody about it. Sometimes,

1545
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 2: you know, when you're thirty five, thirty six, thirty seven.

1546
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 2: You're thinking, right, this is coming to an end.

1547
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 4: What next?

1548
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 2: Big decisions? Ay, Interesting decisions nineteen past eight. The Make

1549
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 2: Asking Breakfast with Bailey's real estates to no, you know

1550
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,560
Speaker 2: a rain drover when you see one. That roof, that

1551
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 2: waistline unmistakable, of course, is one of the great design

1552
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 2: pieces of the modern age, as far as I can

1553
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 2: work out. Rain drover Evoke, by the way, doesn't look

1554
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 2: the part. It's got forty five years of rain drover

1555
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 2: DNA running through its veins. And let's be honest about

1556
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: the plug and this plug in hybrid, right, so it's

1557
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 2: not some half baked compromise you're dealing with. It delivers

1558
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 2: sixty one ks of proper electric range. That's real world

1559
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 2: usable DC rapid charging. That just works, no worries. You

1560
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: step inside the rain drover and you voke sumptuous interior

1561
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 2: and discover the convenience of the comprehensive sweeter features. You

1562
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 2: got your three DS around camera with the ground view

1563
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 2: that means you can actually see what you're doing when

1564
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 2: you park. It works a treat. The rearview mirror gives

1565
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 2: you vision without passengers. Heads in the way. So that's

1566
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 2: clever air quality in the cabin, electronically controlled. In the

1567
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 2: Meridian sound system, that's absolutely top notch. You don't realize,

1568
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 2: funny enough, I drove another car to work today and

1569
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 2: you don't realize when you've got an ordinary stereo how

1570
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 2: good the Meridian actually is when you're hearing it. Anyway.

1571
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 2: Best of all, when you get into the rain Drover

1572
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 2: evoke before the end of March, they'll include the next

1573
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 2: home charge a complementary So visit your local retailer today

1574
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 2: in Charge into the future with the rain drawbery Bok

1575
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 2: absolutely fantastic. Arsky Range Road is being serviced at the moment.

1576
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 2: There's nothing more. There's nothing. Am I just weird? Don't

1577
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 2: answer that. There's nothing more enjoyable than taking your car

1578
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 2: in and giving it to them and then wandering around

1579
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 2: because the place that services also sells them and you

1580
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 2: just wander around for like well ours sometimes Well.

1581
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 4: I hope you're not. So you're driving around some clunky

1582
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 4: courtesy car, are you?

1583
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 13: No?

1584
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 2: I am driving around in a courtesy car, but it's

1585
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: not clunky.

1586
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 4: Well, it sounds like crack stereo.

1587
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 2: It could use an upgraded stereo it could use an

1588
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 2: upgrade stereo. But the rest of it's very good.

1589
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 4: Is that one? And because you put on the radio

1590
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 4: and it's if it's not set to.

1591
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,480
Speaker 2: It's always on ZB Yeah, yeah, it's always on. It's

1592
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 2: locked on.

1593
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 4: Has it got a slot for your stick?

1594
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 2: Do you know what? It's such a sophisticated modern car.

1595
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 2: I went straight to the touch, touched it up.

1596
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 4: Oh so you mean, hang on, it's not like a

1597
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 4: a late two thousands Corolla, not like my old it's up.

1598
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 2: Touched it up, off of me options. I've hit a

1599
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 2: few buttons and next thing I know, I'm playing Morgan Wollen.

1600
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 2: Can't go wrong, Mike.

1601
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:19,719
Speaker 4: It looks like a big screen. Is it electric?

1602
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 2: It's not? Certainly not electric. It is not electric. No,

1603
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 2: it does not. I don't watch TV one news much

1604
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 2: these days. I love people who start with that. I

1605
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 2: don't watch television anymore. But just on the one night

1606
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:39,600
Speaker 2: I happened to I saw this last night Andrew Bailey coverage. No,

1607
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 2: you've got this wrong. They were waiting for him at

1608
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 2: the airport. No they weren't. That was old footage. It

1609
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 2: was file footage. Don't get too confused. The point I

1610
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 2: raised with the textan soverea point is was Andrew Bailey

1611
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 2: not a story? Or is that not a story? The

1612
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 2: guy has gone on holiday? Are we now covering people

1613
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 2: who go on holiday? And just because he's gone to

1614
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 2: base camp at Everest? Who doesn't go to base camp

1615
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,759
Speaker 2: at Everest? We've all been to base camp at Everest.

1616
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 2: Come on and he rides a yack and he wanted

1617
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 2: to run. You know, good luck to the guy, so

1618
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 2: he made a very good If you want an insight

1619
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 2: into luxem have a look at his press conference yesterday

1620
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 2: post cabinet and when the person I think it was

1621
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 2: Ben at cumber Patch of TV one who asked that question,

1622
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 2: and I think you watch Luckson's face, he literally physically

1623
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: reacted to it, and it gives you an insight into

1624
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: the fact he's actually a nice guy. And the inference

1625
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 2: being that somehow because you quit, you're not allowed to

1626
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 2: have a holiday and the country's going to stop.

1627
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 4: You got to remember the let's go squealy into your

1628
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 4: moan if your bum's on fire, that you put it

1629
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 4: out quest because we wanted a guy in charge of

1630
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 4: the country who knows how to run a business. But

1631
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 4: then when he runs the country like a business. We

1632
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 4: don't like it because in a business, regardless of whether

1633
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 4: somebody's resigned, if they asked us some leave, you generally

1634
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 4: give them some leak.

1635
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 2: You've got to generally give them some leave.

1636
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 4: But if you're in trouble as a politician.

1637
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 2: Like if you're not a nice guy and ask for leave,

1638
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 2: we want you to stay stating there so we can

1639
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 2: ridicul use some more, engage.

1640
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 4: Us and throw some vegetables at you rather than let

1641
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 4: you write a yack.

1642
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 2: Couldn't agreement. And that's before I get to the tweet

1643
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 2: this morning from the Radio New Zealand reporter, which does

1644
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 2: mean are you allowed to tweet editorially speaking if you're

1645
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 2: a Radio New Zealand reporter, isn't it? Is that a

1646
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 2: fair question to ask? Anyway, I'll give you the full

1647
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 2: details on us right after the news, which is next

1648
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 2: your news.

1649
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: Talks, evil news, opinion and everything in between. The mic

1650
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 1: hosting break best with the range rover Vilain designed to

1651
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: intrigue and use talks he'd.

1652
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 2: Be Jones closes in about twenty two to twenty three minutes.

1653
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 2: Is trying it's very best to claw back some of

1654
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 2: the losses for the day, but down the eight hundred

1655
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 2: and fifty points. At the moment, the Nasdak's an even

1656
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 2: bigger blood bath. Mike I was talking to a member

1657
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,560
Speaker 2: of lux AND's trade visit to Vietnam. He said, of

1658
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 2: New Zealanders, knew how good our prime minister is, he

1659
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 2: would have no problems. Apparently he's amazing working the room,

1660
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 2: talking to everyone in the Vietnamese loved him. After the

1661
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 2: past couple of years, you would think we'd be over

1662
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 2: show pony prime ministers, but it would seem we prefer

1663
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 2: a lack of substance. Ninetil. It's a very good point

1664
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 2: you make, and I reference Jason Wall's piece, which I

1665
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 2: think was not this last Saturday, but the Saturday before

1666
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 2: when he came back from Vietnam. Essentially look it up.

1667
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 2: It's worth reading. He essentially says the same thing. But

1668
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 2: that doesn't change the fact that you can be good

1669
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 2: at one bit but not necessarily good at another. And

1670
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 2: polls are real to the extent that even if you

1671
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 2: don't accept yesterday's pole, which I think anyone with half

1672
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,839
Speaker 2: a brain wouldn't for reasons I outlined earlier in the program,

1673
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 2: but it nevertheless, it's a thing there is a disconnect

1674
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 2: between Luxeon's ability to connect with regular in New Zealanders

1675
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 2: and his ability to do his job as Prime Minister.

1676
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 2: They're two separate things. One he's struggling with and whether

1677
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 2: or not that becomes an ongoing, if not bigger issue,

1678
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 2: it's something we watch and wait. Well, I guess twenty

1679
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 2: two minutes away from.

1680
01:15:56,200 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 1: Nine International correspondence with ends in eye insurance peace of

1681
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

1682
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 2: From Britain road morning to you.

1683
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 12: Good morning mate.

1684
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 2: So I've got one ship packed, I've got another one

1685
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 2: on autopilot. What can possibly go wrong?

1686
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 12: Well, indeed, and it's what those ships were carrying. You

1687
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 12: couldn't have confected in your mind a more dangerous combination.

1688
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 12: One ship an American ship conveying jet fuel kerosene presumably

1689
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 12: to Ukraine actually, and the other one carrying twelve huge

1690
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 12: clusters of sodium cyanide. And this collision happened in the

1691
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 12: Humber Estuery, just outside the Humber Estuary on the east

1692
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 12: coast of Britain, at the northeast coast of Britain, next

1693
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 12: to a very very environmentally important area for birds and wildlife,

1694
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 12: and there's a huge worry. The worry firstly about the

1695
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 12: kerosene that will undoubtedly which we know has spilled. It's

1696
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 12: burning off at the moment, but we know that it

1697
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 12: is lethal to wildlife, but not as lethal as sodium cyandite.

1698
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 12: And we don't know whether any of those canisters have

1699
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 12: ruptured yet. But the scenes that I'm looking at, you know,

1700
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 12: from the Humber don't look terribly good. Billowing black smoke,

1701
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:32,799
Speaker 12: tugs in attendance, thirty six people brought home from the ships,

1702
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,719
Speaker 12: and the Humber restureally closed to all traffic, the Humber

1703
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:41,480
Speaker 12: port of Immingham incidentally being the second most important container

1704
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 12: port in Europe.

1705
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 2: All right, well, we'll see what happens over the next

1706
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 2: day or so. Because they're worried about the environment. Obviously,

1707
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 2: this guy Amesbury is quit run corn and hillsby fifteen

1708
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:50,879
Speaker 2: thousand majority.

1709
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 3: Go take it.

1710
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 2: We've got a buy election on him.

1711
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 12: We yeah, we've got to buy election on And one

1712
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 12: would normally say this might lead us in what we

1713
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 12: talk about next, that it would be a kind of

1714
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 12: open goal for reform. UK Aims re held the seat

1715
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 12: at the last election with a huge majority. In fairness,

1716
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:13,719
Speaker 12: you know, fifty two point nine percent of the vote

1717
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 12: over a Reform who came second with seven thousand. He

1718
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 12: got twenty two thousand. But such as the state of

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01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 12: the Labor Party at the moment, although it's had a

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Speaker 12: bit of a bounce from Secure Starmer's endeavors abroad, but

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01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 12: not much of a bounce. But reform itself is in

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01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 12: huge trouble, and that that's the story, which is when

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Speaker 12: you talk about reform is dominating headlines at the moment.

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Speaker 12: So you know, you would guess, you would guess that

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Speaker 12: if there were a by election tomorrow, reform would we

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Speaker 12: But it's not that straightforward.

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Speaker 2: No indeed, So Rupert how allows your men, I know

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Speaker 2: whose lawyer was busy trying to distance themselves from him,

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01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:57,839
Speaker 2: claiming that that's in a whole bunch of stuff allegedly

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Speaker 2: they happened. And then you've got, I mean, what's what's

1731
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 2: gone wrong here? What's happened?

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Speaker 12: It happens with remarkable frequency, where with Nigel Farage personable

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Speaker 12: and charismatic though he undoubtedly is. There are are only

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Speaker 12: five MP's in the House of Commons, but they're already

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Speaker 12: split and one of them has been suspended. And of

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01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 12: course Rupert Lowe who's the MP for Great Yarmouth, was

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Speaker 12: suspended only a day after he'd made an announcement saying

1738
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 12: that all the Nigel Farage wasn't running the party terribly well,

1739
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 12: and suddenly the party decides to call the police and

1740
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 12: have him prosecuted for a supposed act of physical abuse.

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Speaker 12: It is remarkable that they cannot get on even when

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01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 12: there's just five of them. And yet you look back

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01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 12: at the record with the Reform and UKIP and there's

1744
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 12: always this problem. You know, anyone who criticizes the leader

1745
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 12: is pushed out and it's something which is in common,

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Speaker 12: you have to say, with quite a few right wing parties.

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Speaker 12: I've tried to get hold of the Nigel Farage today

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Speaker 12: to talk to him about what's going on. No reply,

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Speaker 12: and he usually replies quite quickly. Rupert Lowe hasn't replied.

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Speaker 12: You're right. His lawyer has distanced himself from Rupert low

1751
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Speaker 12: which isn't a great thing to happen with a lawyer,

1752
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 12: I think in the scheme of things. So it is

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01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 12: a real real mess. And you know, Reform again, I

1754
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 12: say it again. They've hit twenty five percent in the polls.

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01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 12: They're not getting any higher and they're probably going to

1756
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 12: drop a bit as a consequence of this. We may

1757
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 12: be that we've seen the ceiling for reform photes. I

1758
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 12: don't know.

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Speaker 2: Hey, listen, just a couple of quick things I've been

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01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 2: reading about. I want you to take on Starmer. Was

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01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 2: I was suggested that he's going to pay people. This

1762
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 2: is officials and mandarins and people on the public to quit.

1763
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 2: Is this sort of those UK styles? Is he riding

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Speaker 2: the public service?

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Speaker 12: It's doge divided by one hundred, but yes it is.

1766
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 12: It is doge. Unquestionably, they are trying to pair back

1767
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 12: the vast amounts of money was spending on public expenditure.

1768
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 12: So for example, civil service did reduce under the Tories,

1769
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 12: but then has massively increased since COVID. Fifteen thousand new

1770
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 12: jobs been brought in since twenty twenty. And what are

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01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,600
Speaker 12: they doing. They're all working from home so far as

1772
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 12: we can tell. So there is an awful lot of

1773
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 12: fact to be prune there and Sakir Starman needs to

1774
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 12: prove a lot of that fat And it's interesting what

1775
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 12: you were saying about the situation in New Zealand. It's

1776
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 12: very similar here that here we have a prime minister

1777
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 12: who is incredibly adept abroad and walking that title between

1778
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,640
Speaker 12: Europe in the USA, but when it comes to connecting

1779
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 12: with the British voters doesn't have it. I do think

1780
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 12: a new reality has gripshold of Labor and you know

1781
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:15,600
Speaker 12: this attempt to pair back to the big state, the

1782
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 12: war on long term sickness, benefit claimants who are swinging

1783
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 12: the lead, both things which you wouldn't have expected the

1784
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Speaker 12: Labor Party to do, but it is doing and with

1785
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 12: a lot of support.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a centrist type Labor Party, isn't it. I'm

1787
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 2: necessary Rod will catch up on Thursday. Appreciate it as always.

1788
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Speaker 2: The other couple of things, by the way, I noted

1789
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Speaker 2: in Britain into a couple of Bulgarians were found guilty

1790
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:43,919
Speaker 2: of spying for Russia. They had day jobs as a beautian,

1791
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 2: a healthcare worker and a decorator. They want they're watering

1792
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 2: down phone use. They were going to try and bend

1793
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 2: smartphones from schools. They can't get the support, so they're

1794
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 2: watering that down and they want more schools to be

1795
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 2: asked to supervised teeth brushing. There's something dreadfully wrong with

1796
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 2: the country that is telling schools to watch kids brush

1797
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 2: their teeth. It's been going on for years and poor

1798
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 2: parts of the poor parts of Britain, but they want

1799
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 2: school and nursery staff in deprived areas of England to

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Speaker 2: be asked to supervise kids brushing their teeth. Heaven forbid

1801
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 2: their educate them. But you've got to feed them, you

1802
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 2: got to brush your teeth. It's like, jeez, it's like

1803
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 2: a social welfare department, isn't it. Eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

1805
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:30,200
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Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of the state doing everything. There's a tweet

1807
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 2: out this morning from a woman called a Newsha Bradley.

1808
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 2: Now I know not of her, but I am told

1809
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 2: she's a senior journalist at the State Broadcast, a radio

1810
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. So it's seven fifteen this morning. She

1811
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 2: tweets out, for the first time in four years, my

1812
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 2: teen is taking a packed lunch to school today. He's

1813
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 2: asked if he can take his own from now on,

1814
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 2: saying the new lunches are tiny and inedible. A lot

1815
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 2: of the kids at this school won't have the option

1816
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 2: of taking food from home. So that's a political statement obviously,

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01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 2: and I would have argued that if you're funded by

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01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 2: the taxpayer as a journalist and allegedly down the middle,

1819
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 2: no fear, no favor, and all of those sort of things,

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01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 2: that somehow that sort of tweets somehow not allowed, I

1821
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 2: may be completely out of touch. Furthermore, I'm told as

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01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 2: a senior journalist that radio in New Zealand sho'ld be

1823
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 2: earning a good salary should be in six figures. And

1824
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,799
Speaker 2: this is a six figure earning person who's seemingly happily

1825
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 2: watched the state pay for her child's lunch for four

1826
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 2: years and not at any point wandered to herself whether

1827
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 2: or not either her or her partner or her child

1828
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 2: might like to make I don't know, some sort of

1829
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 2: effort to do their own lunch. Does this not strike

1830
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 2: you as extremely weird? But maybe that's how it rolls

1831
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 2: at the state broadcast of these days. It's just whatever.

1832
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 2: But it does go back to my ongoing theme that

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01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 2: the school lunch thing of the last week or so

1834
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 2: is a pileon. There's no question it's a pileon, and

1835
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:52,520
Speaker 2: it's a politically motivated pilon. I read with a great delimitrist.

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Speaker 2: They're celebrating v Day the eightieth this year. I quite

1837
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 2: like to go to London for the eightieth of the day.

1838
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 2: I quite like that it's in May. Can be nice,

1839
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 2: not always, but can be fifth of May through the

1840
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 2: eighth being the Poms. I'll do the four fall days.

1841
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 2: Why would you want to possibly mark a single day

1842
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 2: when you can have four. But they're gonna have a

1843
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 2: nice Westminster Abbey service? Are they going to have a

1844
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 2: fly pass? There's nothing like a fly past in London.

1845
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 2: I've done seen several fly pasts in London. Probably the

1846
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 2: greatest moment of my No, that's not true. One of

1847
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 2: the most memorable days of my life. As I was

1848
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:25,560
Speaker 2: sitting standing at the hotel window, and the hotel I

1849
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 2: was staying at had a view of Westminster Bridge and

1850
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 2: the Parliament and the wheel just to the right of

1851
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 2: you know, heading looking directly towards Buckingham Pallace. And then

1852
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 2: suddenly there's noise, this rumbling noise, and I thought these

1853
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 2: are plane, surely there's are planes. And then straight so

1854
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 2: close to the roof of the hotel you couldn't believe it,

1855
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 2: they came and it was just fantastic to watch, so

1856
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 2: they're celebrating that, and then they also celebrating at the moment.

1857
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 2: Speaking of the Eye twenty five twenty five, the London

1858
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: Eye twenty five is that the most disappointing tourist train

1859
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 2: action you've ever been to if you've been to the

1860
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 2: London eight and warning, if you've never been to the

1861
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: London Eye and you want to go to London, you

1862
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 2: end up in London going oh, so London, I might

1863
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 2: don't well, it's one of those things and it goes

1864
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 2: so slowly and London's so low rise that once you've

1865
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 2: seen the main bit of low rise London, there's nothing

1866
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 2: more to see. But you're still on it for another

1867
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:20,560
Speaker 2: hour and you're thinking.

1868
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Speaker 4: At least it goes unlike that one in Melbourne.

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01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 2: Very good point. It does go, but so slow. It's

1870
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 2: so slow it doesn't even stop to allow you to

1871
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 2: step on. You know those ones like you know you

1872
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 2: go to the cable car in Queenstown and it will

1873
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 2: slow down to the point where it's virtually stopped. You

1874
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: jump on. This is so slow it literally never stops,

1875
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 2: and even the elderly and and firm can hop on

1876
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 2: with plenty of time to spare like you if you

1877
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 2: want nine minutes away from nine the.

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Speaker 1: Make Hosking breakfast with al Vida, Retirement, Communities News togs Head,

1879
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 1: be real quick.

1880
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 2: Talks in the Middle East start again today in Qatar.

1881
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 2: They've turned the power off. The aid's not going in.

1882
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 2: So let's take that game where the bloke who was running,

1883
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 2: he is the far right Gigescu, who was running in

1884
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 2: the Romanian rerun of the presidentials. He's been banned. So

1885
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 2: that's one for the next twenty four hours because that'll

1886
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 2: take off. That goes back to Vance's speech the other day, right,

1887
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 2: Remember he was talking about democracy and the people's voices

1888
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 2: and the president Yun is free. This actually happened yesterday.

1889
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 2: I forgot to tell you about it. But you know,

1890
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 2: the guy did the martial law in Korea. Then they

1891
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 2: rundled him up. It took a while to round him

1892
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 2: up because they went to the palace and noe and

1893
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 2: led him in. But anyway, they ran it him up,

1894
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 2: took him to court. They've now set him the trial continues,

1895
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 2: but his containment has seen as slightly dodgy, so he's out.

1896
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 2: So there's a lot going Jesus lot going on the

1897
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 2: moment five minutes away from nine trending.

1898
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 1: Now with M Square House the home of big brand ftalments.

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Speaker 17: Right.

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01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 2: I look up this video today. It's been seeing fourteen

1901
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 2: million times in counting. It's the Class Restate indoor Champs

1902
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 2: in America running. Elilah Everett is running beside Kaylin Tucker.

1903
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 2: Everett takes her batten and smashes it into Tucker's head.

1904
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 2: Everyone becomes outraged. Anyway, Elilah is now doing the interview

1905
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,759
Speaker 2: that she claims it's a mistake and she's the victim.

1906
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 17: Everybody has feelings, so you're physically hurt, but you're not

1907
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 17: thinking of my mental right. They're going off of one

1908
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 17: angle that comple size hitting her mother. Time got stuck

1909
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 17: behind her back like this and it rolled up her back.

1910
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 17: I lost my balance and when I pumped my arms again,

1911
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 17: she got hit. I know my intentions that I would

1912
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 17: never somebody on purpose here assuming my character calling me ghetto,

1913
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 17: racist slurs that threats all of this just because of

1914
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 17: a nine second video.

1915
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 2: Well, have a look at it for yourself. It looks

1916
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 2: pretty compelling to me. If I was judged Judy, I'd

1917
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 2: go to the break and sale have my verdict after

1918
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 2: the break. But once I came back from the break,

1919
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 2: she'd be she'd be doing she'd be doing time. I mean,

1920
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 2: there's not just not getting around there. That's been a

1921
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 2: good shot. I thoroughly enjoyed that. Actually felt a bit

1922
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 2: sick this morning. At two this morning thought do I

1923
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 2: feel a bit queasy? Not not as and I've got

1924
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 2: a disease. But just as I'm like, this is a

1925
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 2: bit early, have I chucked back a couple too many

1926
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 2: espressos of what's happening, Mike?

1927
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 4: Has it been too long since lunch yesterday? After?

1928
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 2: Precisely anyway?

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Speaker 4: By lunch, I mean, of course, Gonner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, came right, and I feel fantastic. Back tomorrow, Happy Days.

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