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Speaker 1: Ninety two. Ninety two is our text number. We're going

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Speaker 1: to take a look at that. Where the Finance Minister.

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Speaker 1: She's going to be with us right after five o'clock

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Speaker 1: this evening. Breakdown that tradable non tradable division. There has

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Speaker 1: been some improvement on the non tradable figure core inflation

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Speaker 1: down as well, but still a couple of things that

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Speaker 1: might be making the more pessimistic economists a little bit anxious.

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Speaker 1: So we'll bring you that very shortly right now though

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Speaker 1: it is eleven minutes past four and news talks. He'd

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Speaker 1: be and we've got some numbers out regarding the youth

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Speaker 1: offender boot camps. The Audering atomaticy run pilot program could

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Speaker 1: cost one hundred thousand dollars for every teenager in the program.

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Speaker 1: The twelve month program, we'll see one on one mentoring

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Speaker 1: for each teenager alongside travel, food education. Their residential phase

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Speaker 1: is going to give the youth time for counseling, physical activity,

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Speaker 1: and guest speakers will appear before them so they can

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Speaker 1: assist with their community transition. David Graham is the CEO

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Speaker 1: of the Billy Graham Youth Foundation and is with us

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Speaker 1: this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Hi, David, got a jack.

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Speaker 1: One hundred thousand dollars feels very expensive. Indeed, do you

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Speaker 1: reckon the cost is too steep?

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Speaker 2: I'm probably not too sure about that. I think that

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Speaker 2: if you look down stream and you see what a

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Speaker 2: cost to keep one of these, you know at the

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Speaker 2: stage men in the white Jair facility and what it

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Speaker 2: costs down and maindustice. If we can get in front

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Speaker 2: of us now at the cost of one hundred k,

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Speaker 2: probably not too worried about that. As long as we

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Speaker 2: can we can get it right.

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Speaker 1: You've seen a bit more detail in the plan as

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Speaker 1: to how these book camps are going to work a

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Speaker 1: bit more detail about what these guys are going to

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Speaker 1: be up to on a day to day basis, So

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Speaker 1: do you have confidence that this could actually work?

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Speaker 2: Look, the we've been engaging this the last twelve months

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Speaker 2: and what we're really happy about is the positive shift

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Speaker 2: from what was campaigned on. So going from a twelve

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Speaker 2: month residential piece down to three months, that allows us

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Speaker 2: time to focus on what was always going to be

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Speaker 2: the hardest, most complex, but which is the transition. So yep, happy,

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Speaker 2: really happy to see that. A couple of points what

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Speaker 2: we need to be making sure of is that the

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Speaker 2: young people who were talking about these ten young men

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Speaker 2: between fourteen and seventeen, eighteen years of age, but they

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Speaker 2: are choosing to engage with the mentors that are in

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Speaker 2: front of them. You know, there's no slight on the mentors.

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Speaker 2: But the factor is that we're talking about you know,

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Speaker 2: some of the ten hardest case young people in the country.

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Speaker 2: They have low trust for adults and if you look

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Speaker 2: at their backgrounds, that's a good reason. So we need

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Speaker 2: to make all the relationship between the young person and

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Speaker 2: that mentor is at least not initially but pretty soon

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Speaker 2: on have been driven by the young person. And the

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Speaker 2: second thing that would say is that the task that

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Speaker 2: has put out this morning for these mentors, that's it's

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Speaker 2: by themselves. It really is an impossible feat. If the

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Speaker 2: job is from mental fixed one of these you know,

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Speaker 2: one of these keen hardest case young people to come

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Speaker 2: through within twelve months, that's not going to happen. So

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Speaker 2: what it requires is once that young person has transitioned

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Speaker 2: back into the community, for community leaders to wrap up

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Speaker 2: this young person right. And it's the small thing. You know,

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Speaker 2: they're there in this position in the first place because

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Speaker 2: of you know, these these climbs have gone down against

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Speaker 2: the community. But this is where the rother meets the road.

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Speaker 2: We need to have good relationships between young person and mentor,

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Speaker 2: and the community has got to wrap up these young

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Speaker 2: people once they're re engaged.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's the re engaging bit that's vital right now.

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Speaker 1: And you know, when you go through the relatively sparse

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Speaker 1: research into the previous iterations of boot camps, one message

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Speaker 1: that keep coming through from all of the official advice

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Speaker 1: is that boot camps are one thing, but actually it's

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Speaker 1: the support when these young people re into the community

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Speaker 1: that is way, way, way more important.

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Speaker 2: That's right. What we saw for from the reviews is

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Speaker 2: that after eighteen months, that's when we start to see

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Speaker 2: that reoffending occur. And so what that tells us is

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Speaker 2: that these young people actually need to be handheld for

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Speaker 2: a greater period than the twelve months. And so if

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Speaker 2: we're going to fund a mentor or a frontline provider

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Speaker 2: to engage other of those twelve months, it has to

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Speaker 2: carry on past that. Let's just acknowledge how difficult it

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Speaker 2: is to do what we're talking about. You know, we're

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Speaker 2: talking about these these ten young men and you look

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Speaker 2: at where they've come from. They are the greatest victims

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Speaker 2: in the country to begin with, and then that sets

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Speaker 2: them up, you know, for what they've gone on to,

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Speaker 2: how they've gone on to offend. And so if we

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Speaker 2: can set up a good relationship between a mentor and

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Speaker 2: these young people and then second phase, these communities wrap

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Speaker 2: them up. Let's keep pumping support them to that because

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Speaker 2: that was just that's a profound thing if we can

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Speaker 2: pull that off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, thanks for your Tom really appreciate David Graham there,

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Speaker 1: who is the chief executive of the Billy Graham Youth Foundation.

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