1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,467 Speaker 1: from News Talks B one. 3 00:00:13,427 --> 00:00:16,787 Speaker 2: Forty four Sunday afternoons mean a lot of things, but 4 00:00:16,867 --> 00:00:18,987 Speaker 2: they mean James mcconey, Hello. 5 00:00:18,707 --> 00:00:20,667 Speaker 3: Mate, how are you, Pony? 6 00:00:20,707 --> 00:00:24,027 Speaker 2: You're right, I'm good. I'm good. What were your What 7 00:00:24,067 --> 00:00:27,587 Speaker 2: were your takeaways after last night's test? 8 00:00:28,747 --> 00:00:33,427 Speaker 3: Domino's and a little bit of hell pizza as well? Good? Yeah, 9 00:00:34,027 --> 00:00:35,827 Speaker 3: And I wasn't doing the ordering. It was a it 10 00:00:35,867 --> 00:00:38,027 Speaker 3: was a friend. I don't know. We doubled we doubled up, 11 00:00:38,067 --> 00:00:41,747 Speaker 3: But I think let's start with the positives though, Courtez. 12 00:00:42,467 --> 00:00:46,947 Speaker 3: That'im Wallace a TT, Caleb Clark. I mean, I feel 13 00:00:46,947 --> 00:00:50,027 Speaker 3: like there's one two of them a sort of coming 14 00:00:50,027 --> 00:00:54,267 Speaker 3: of age, and I think Caleb's just reinvented himself, right yep. 15 00:00:54,467 --> 00:00:58,547 Speaker 2: Yeap Wallace to TT. I love the way he plays, 16 00:00:58,867 --> 00:01:01,347 Speaker 2: you know, solving a problem for the All Blacks at 17 00:01:01,427 --> 00:01:03,547 Speaker 2: number six when you're not even really a number six. 18 00:01:03,587 --> 00:01:05,507 Speaker 2: I think he played every game for the Chief certainly 19 00:01:05,747 --> 00:01:07,947 Speaker 2: from the start a number eight, didn't he but he 20 00:01:08,587 --> 00:01:10,867 Speaker 2: I just really like the way he goes about things. 21 00:01:11,547 --> 00:01:14,787 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a stability to him, even though he is 22 00:01:14,867 --> 00:01:18,507 Speaker 3: an excitement machine machine at times, just the way he 23 00:01:18,587 --> 00:01:22,267 Speaker 3: seems to own that position, which isn't the most familiar 24 00:01:22,267 --> 00:01:28,707 Speaker 3: for him at blindside physically impressive, dominates contact, but just 25 00:01:28,947 --> 00:01:32,787 Speaker 3: really seems like a solid option, you know, shades of 26 00:01:32,827 --> 00:01:37,867 Speaker 3: Jerome Caino. There's there's lots to like about Wallace a. TT. Cortez, though, 27 00:01:38,267 --> 00:01:40,827 Speaker 3: I felt, did everything he could, did everything right. He 28 00:01:40,827 --> 00:01:43,027 Speaker 3: finished off what should have been one of the greatest 29 00:01:43,107 --> 00:01:45,667 Speaker 3: tries of all time if it wasn't for that forward pass, 30 00:01:45,747 --> 00:01:48,707 Speaker 3: which was a fair call, but I've seen worse passes 31 00:01:48,867 --> 00:01:55,307 Speaker 3: just ignored. But again, the Courtez just dominated on attack 32 00:01:55,427 --> 00:01:58,267 Speaker 3: and defense, the hit by carry and Betty. I think 33 00:01:58,347 --> 00:02:00,747 Speaker 3: Kine mentioned that he's stealing most of my notes today. 34 00:02:00,827 --> 00:02:05,667 Speaker 3: But one thing that Cortez did do is set the 35 00:02:05,707 --> 00:02:09,947 Speaker 3: tempo perf quickly. I think he his clearance was was 36 00:02:10,147 --> 00:02:12,547 Speaker 3: next level, and I think that that is why we 37 00:02:12,627 --> 00:02:14,467 Speaker 3: saw those tries from the All Blacks. 38 00:02:15,107 --> 00:02:17,307 Speaker 2: What about Damien McKenzie. 39 00:02:18,187 --> 00:02:20,307 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got him in my notes as well. Ponty, Yes, 40 00:02:20,347 --> 00:02:25,307 Speaker 3: thank you for that. Okay, let's just let's just rip 41 00:02:25,347 --> 00:02:27,507 Speaker 3: off the band aid. He won't be happy with that, 42 00:02:27,547 --> 00:02:29,667 Speaker 3: will he. There were there were three or four tries 43 00:02:29,747 --> 00:02:33,547 Speaker 3: left out there, and and there were his name will 44 00:02:33,587 --> 00:02:35,427 Speaker 3: be on a couple of them. So the video session 45 00:02:35,467 --> 00:02:39,147 Speaker 3: is going to be a tough one for dmac. But 46 00:02:39,307 --> 00:02:43,347 Speaker 3: I also agree with Joe Schmidt, which was, you know, 47 00:02:43,427 --> 00:02:46,347 Speaker 3: he creates so much, would you really want to take 48 00:02:46,387 --> 00:02:49,667 Speaker 3: that away when that's kind of where you're at, where 49 00:02:49,707 --> 00:02:53,947 Speaker 3: he puts fear into the defense. Yeah, there were three 50 00:02:53,987 --> 00:02:57,227 Speaker 3: passes in particular that he'll want to have back. But 51 00:02:57,907 --> 00:03:00,107 Speaker 3: I look back at the World Cup Final last year 52 00:03:00,107 --> 00:03:01,707 Speaker 3: and I thought our biggest problem with the All Blacks 53 00:03:01,747 --> 00:03:04,107 Speaker 3: is that we didn't throw passes at the right time. 54 00:03:04,507 --> 00:03:06,907 Speaker 3: So he was throwing the passes they just that great 55 00:03:06,987 --> 00:03:10,547 Speaker 3: pony and then to one of them he didn't need 56 00:03:10,587 --> 00:03:12,667 Speaker 3: to spiral it. The other one he just didn't need 57 00:03:12,707 --> 00:03:17,827 Speaker 3: to backhand flick it. So sometimes the easy option is 58 00:03:17,867 --> 00:03:20,547 Speaker 3: to shovel it on. You know, you don't need to 59 00:03:21,227 --> 00:03:23,067 Speaker 3: put a little bit of finesse on it. It just 60 00:03:23,107 --> 00:03:24,627 Speaker 3: needs to be accurate. 61 00:03:25,307 --> 00:03:26,947 Speaker 2: I think the other thing that's being missed a little 62 00:03:26,987 --> 00:03:29,587 Speaker 2: bit is that in a game that the All Blacks 63 00:03:29,587 --> 00:03:32,707 Speaker 2: won by three points, he was perfect from the boot, 64 00:03:33,107 --> 00:03:34,987 Speaker 2: five from five, and there were some of those tries 65 00:03:34,987 --> 00:03:36,627 Speaker 2: were scored wide out. 66 00:03:38,067 --> 00:03:41,187 Speaker 3: Honestly, I thought that the tries were brilliant, but then 67 00:03:41,387 --> 00:03:44,587 Speaker 3: the ones they left out there absolutely pulling your hair out, 68 00:03:44,667 --> 00:03:48,947 Speaker 3: coach killers as they call them. Look, the fact is 69 00:03:49,147 --> 00:03:52,467 Speaker 3: that the All Blacks have got a case of the 70 00:03:52,547 --> 00:03:55,667 Speaker 3: yips in the second half and the final quarter. It's 71 00:03:55,707 --> 00:03:59,587 Speaker 3: a it is a choke. Really, there's no other way 72 00:03:59,587 --> 00:04:02,907 Speaker 3: to put it. And so they've got a remedy it somehow, 73 00:04:02,987 --> 00:04:04,987 Speaker 3: I don't know. Look, I think with Bowden coming back 74 00:04:05,027 --> 00:04:06,867 Speaker 3: into that team, even though I thought we'll Jordan was 75 00:04:06,867 --> 00:04:10,067 Speaker 3: great at fullback, he'll provide that stability, He'll provide an 76 00:04:10,107 --> 00:04:13,907 Speaker 3: extra kicking game. I mean, I've got no problem with 77 00:04:14,347 --> 00:04:16,547 Speaker 3: Boden moving into ten. I think he's a great team 78 00:04:16,587 --> 00:04:19,547 Speaker 3: that's been underrated for too long. You know, will play 79 00:04:19,587 --> 00:04:22,787 Speaker 3: over the year twice. But I still feel like d 80 00:04:22,907 --> 00:04:26,427 Speaker 3: Max should be on the field. That's my feeling basically. 81 00:04:26,907 --> 00:04:29,387 Speaker 2: All Right, A couple of other matters around. Did you 82 00:04:29,427 --> 00:04:31,347 Speaker 2: watch the Rooster's Manly game last night? 83 00:04:32,707 --> 00:04:36,147 Speaker 3: Yes? I did, and it's amazing how a team that 84 00:04:36,547 --> 00:04:39,667 Speaker 3: looked totally outclass last week by Penrith comes back and 85 00:04:39,667 --> 00:04:43,747 Speaker 3: outclasses Manly, who have got plenty of stars. Although when 86 00:04:43,747 --> 00:04:45,587 Speaker 3: I look around, I mean they've got three Trouble of 87 00:04:45,667 --> 00:04:48,907 Speaker 3: Itch brothers. I mean that's so one family's providing a 88 00:04:48,907 --> 00:04:51,827 Speaker 3: lot of the team. They've got Matt Lodge, who I 89 00:04:51,867 --> 00:04:55,707 Speaker 3: hate with a passion, who left the Warriors of the 90 00:04:55,787 --> 00:04:58,547 Speaker 3: Lurch is the home invasion guy. If people are wondering 91 00:04:58,587 --> 00:05:02,427 Speaker 3: why do I hate Matt Lodge is he broke into 92 00:05:03,667 --> 00:05:07,307 Speaker 3: a New York home and terrorized the family. It was 93 00:05:07,907 --> 00:05:11,387 Speaker 3: pretty much a violent crime and he's ended up being 94 00:05:11,387 --> 00:05:13,547 Speaker 3: able to live his life and play Rugby league and 95 00:05:13,827 --> 00:05:16,507 Speaker 3: then rip off the Warriors. So I wasn't unhappy to 96 00:05:16,547 --> 00:05:19,987 Speaker 3: see Manly get eliminated because of that. But I did 97 00:05:20,067 --> 00:05:25,147 Speaker 3: notice that with the with the roosters there, you know 98 00:05:25,227 --> 00:05:29,667 Speaker 3: jose Joey Marnhu and Joseph Suil. They are both going 99 00:05:29,667 --> 00:05:31,147 Speaker 3: to rugby next year, so it's going to be a 100 00:05:31,227 --> 00:05:34,067 Speaker 3: very different team. And I think Joey Marny won't take 101 00:05:34,107 --> 00:05:35,667 Speaker 3: long to get up to speed and be an option 102 00:05:35,747 --> 00:05:36,947 Speaker 3: for the all blacks and midfield. 103 00:05:38,467 --> 00:05:40,427 Speaker 2: We will watch the space. Hey, I've just I wanted 104 00:05:40,467 --> 00:05:42,307 Speaker 2: to ask you as well. I think it's in your 105 00:05:42,307 --> 00:05:47,027 Speaker 2: notes about Shohi o'taney doing something that nobody in major 106 00:05:47,067 --> 00:05:52,267 Speaker 2: League baseball has done, I don't think ever fifty home 107 00:05:52,347 --> 00:05:56,667 Speaker 2: runs and fifty stolen bases in a single season. It 108 00:05:56,747 --> 00:05:59,907 Speaker 2: seems incredible that that doesn't happen very often, but it's 109 00:05:59,987 --> 00:06:01,067 Speaker 2: never happened before. 110 00:06:01,707 --> 00:06:04,667 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's an unlikely based stealer at six foot four, 111 00:06:05,027 --> 00:06:11,387 Speaker 3: like he's your height, and running around trying to steal 112 00:06:11,467 --> 00:06:14,627 Speaker 3: bases like he's a little sprinter. So sho Ha really 113 00:06:14,627 --> 00:06:18,267 Speaker 3: added that to his arsenal when he couldn't pitch this 114 00:06:18,347 --> 00:06:22,947 Speaker 3: year because he had some elbow ligament damage, so he thought, 115 00:06:22,987 --> 00:06:26,027 Speaker 3: oh well, I'll steal bases instead. Sets this incredible record. 116 00:06:26,387 --> 00:06:29,267 Speaker 3: He's up to fifty two home runs. Only Aaron Jones 117 00:06:29,307 --> 00:06:31,907 Speaker 3: of the New York Yankees is ahead of ahead of 118 00:06:31,947 --> 00:06:35,787 Speaker 3: him for home runs. He's just incredible. Some people saying, 119 00:06:35,907 --> 00:06:40,027 Speaker 3: is he the greatest athlete on the planet at the moment, Well, 120 00:06:40,067 --> 00:06:44,307 Speaker 3: it's it's tricky, but whatever he's doing, he's getting eyeballs 121 00:06:44,307 --> 00:06:47,707 Speaker 3: on the sport is probably worth his seven hundred million 122 00:06:48,107 --> 00:06:53,067 Speaker 3: dos dollar contract. Saw that, Oh my god, what is 123 00:06:53,147 --> 00:06:56,427 Speaker 3: I mean? Yeah, it's another level. So look, if we 124 00:06:56,427 --> 00:06:58,547 Speaker 3: do have time to talk about cricket, all I'll say is, 125 00:06:58,587 --> 00:07:00,907 Speaker 3: if you've got a young cricketer who's got good hand 126 00:07:00,987 --> 00:07:04,307 Speaker 3: eye coordination. Unfortunately, this is just for boys at the moment, 127 00:07:04,307 --> 00:07:07,947 Speaker 3: because that's where they get paid the big bucks in baseball. 128 00:07:08,267 --> 00:07:12,467 Speaker 3: Send them to baseball. Do not do not worry about 129 00:07:12,907 --> 00:07:15,867 Speaker 3: any ipl You can go to baseball. If they're that good, 130 00:07:16,947 --> 00:07:19,507 Speaker 3: get them over there and see what they can do. 131 00:07:19,867 --> 00:07:21,747 Speaker 2: Yeah, seven hundred mil. Hey, just on the cricket. I've 132 00:07:21,747 --> 00:07:23,707 Speaker 2: got much mclenahan after two to talk about the black 133 00:07:23,747 --> 00:07:25,707 Speaker 2: Caps because so let's not forget they go into day 134 00:07:25,747 --> 00:07:29,267 Speaker 2: four of their Test in a couple of hours time. 135 00:07:30,667 --> 00:07:32,627 Speaker 2: You wouldn't want to be chasing too many more, would 136 00:07:32,627 --> 00:07:34,667 Speaker 2: you At the moment's from Lanka two hundred ahead. You 137 00:07:34,667 --> 00:07:37,267 Speaker 2: wouldn't want to be chasing too much more, would you. 138 00:07:37,307 --> 00:07:39,187 Speaker 3: No, And this is a big worry. I think that 139 00:07:40,027 --> 00:07:43,507 Speaker 3: Will O'Rourke's done, you know, everything he can really with 140 00:07:44,347 --> 00:07:46,467 Speaker 3: as a fast bowler. It's good to have that fair 141 00:07:46,507 --> 00:07:49,467 Speaker 3: factor back in. And look, I looked at the team. 142 00:07:49,507 --> 00:07:52,667 Speaker 3: It's actually quite an aging team this one. I feel 143 00:07:52,667 --> 00:07:54,347 Speaker 3: like the black Caps Test team is going to fall 144 00:07:54,387 --> 00:07:58,347 Speaker 3: off a cliff at some point because everyone apart from Ravender, 145 00:07:58,427 --> 00:08:01,587 Speaker 3: O'Rourke and Phillips are in their thirties, and some of 146 00:08:01,587 --> 00:08:04,507 Speaker 3: them well into their thirties. So came Lillians in thirty four, 147 00:08:04,947 --> 00:08:09,547 Speaker 3: Saldi thirty five. You know, even Daryl Mitchell is thirty three. 148 00:08:09,707 --> 00:08:13,067 Speaker 3: So there's a few selections. It's going to be an 149 00:08:13,107 --> 00:08:15,667 Speaker 3: interesting time. But I did see paddles the great Sir 150 00:08:15,747 --> 00:08:18,827 Speaker 3: Richard Hadley say, hands off will o' roork. Don't you 151 00:08:18,947 --> 00:08:20,907 Speaker 3: dare take him to the IPL. We want him to 152 00:08:20,907 --> 00:08:24,107 Speaker 3: be a Test bowler only. And I'm just thinking, I 153 00:08:24,147 --> 00:08:27,507 Speaker 3: love what you're saying. Paddles are serve pedals, but good 154 00:08:27,587 --> 00:08:29,507 Speaker 3: luck with that because he will get a lot of 155 00:08:29,507 --> 00:08:30,707 Speaker 3: money turning at him very. 156 00:08:30,587 --> 00:08:32,667 Speaker 2: Soon, absolutely right. I just hope it doesn't go the 157 00:08:32,667 --> 00:08:36,227 Speaker 2: Cole Jamison way. Remember that he was so good IPL 158 00:08:37,147 --> 00:08:40,907 Speaker 2: in jured, hardly seen since. Yeah, I get what pedals 159 00:08:40,947 --> 00:08:43,827 Speaker 2: are saying, but yeah, the money's pretty eye watering. Hey, James, 160 00:08:44,067 --> 00:08:46,067 Speaker 2: I think that's all we have time for unfortunately, mate, 161 00:08:46,107 --> 00:08:48,307 Speaker 2: but always great to chat to. Yeah, and and I 162 00:08:48,427 --> 00:08:50,827 Speaker 2: like the fact that you compared me, if only in 163 00:08:50,947 --> 00:08:53,107 Speaker 2: height to show. Hey, Otane, I like that. 164 00:08:53,987 --> 00:08:56,867 Speaker 3: You're the show. Hey, the big show, Hey of New 165 00:08:56,947 --> 00:09:00,147 Speaker 3: Zealand Radio mates, so enjoy that. 166 00:09:00,947 --> 00:09:03,507 Speaker 2: Good on you mate, Thanks indeed, James mcconey part of 167 00:09:03,507 --> 00:09:05,027 Speaker 2: our Sunday seven to two news Talks. 168 00:09:05,067 --> 00:09:08,307 Speaker 1: M me for more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine. 169 00:09:08,427 --> 00:09:11,667 Speaker 1: Listen live to News Talks at B Weekends from midday, 170 00:09:11,987 --> 00:09:14,067 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio