1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Earlierditio with our the Supercenter explore r V successories and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: servicing all in one news talks. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: That'd be Welcome morning, Welcome to the program, Thank you 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: so much for choosing us. We're here for the next hour. 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: And coming up. Dodgy electoral practices involving voter fraud has 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: meant to result in the recent local body elections has 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: been voided. What the hell went down and how can 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: we avoid this in the future? That story in five minutes. 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: We've got a new mega ministry. It's called m SERT. 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: Can you come up with a better name? The Ministry 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: for Cities, Environments, Regions and Transport. But what is the 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: problem that's trying to solve and is it the answer? 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: And breaking news the country has broke and therefore just 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: before sex, what would Barbara Edmonds and labor do differently? 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: We'll have these stories plus corresponders from right around New 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: zeal And, Gavin Gray out of the UK, and news 18 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: as it breaks and you can have your say on 19 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: the text. Ninety two ninety two is a number. Small 20 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: charge applies at seven after five. Well's Wednesday the seventeenth 21 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: of December, three more Bondai shooting victims have been named. 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: Here's a tragedy. The couple happy named Boris and Sophia German. 23 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: They were killed at the hannukaer attack that they're fifteen 24 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 2: ded They tried to stop the gunman. They actually grabbed 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: the gun, but they got shot for their trouble. Edith 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 2: Brupman has been named Dash came by way shows Boris 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: and Sophia trying to stop the gunman as they got 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: out of the car. Some of the other victims include 29 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: forty one year old Eli Schlanger, French national Dan el Kaim, 30 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: Holocaust survivor Alexander Klaytman, former police officer Peter Mayer, and 31 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: ten year old Matilda, who broke our hearts and broke 32 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: all the hearts at the Bondai service. 33 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 3: A happy kid. 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 4: You know some kids, they may be shy, they may 35 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 4: be afraid of you or something. 36 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: She was open, hard, openheart anyway. 37 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: She she was like a son and police are probing 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: a pre attack trip to the Philippines by the father 39 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 2: and son gunman, including claims of military style training. No 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: evidence of collusion. 41 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 4: There's no evidence that these people were part of a cell. 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: Clearly they were motivated by this extremist ideology. Now he 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: said he could do it, and he's gone and done it. 44 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: This is Donald Trump. 45 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 5: You'll be seeing. 46 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 6: I'm suing the BBC for putting words in my mouth 47 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 6: literally and to put words. 48 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 7: In my mouth. 49 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 6: They had me saying things that I never said coming out. 50 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 6: I guess they used AI or something. So we'll be 51 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 6: bringing that lass. A lot of people were asking, why 52 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 6: are you bringing that lawsuit? Even the media can't believe 53 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 6: that one. 54 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: Well, he's done it. He filed a five billion US 55 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: dollar lawsuit against the BBC over that edit of his 56 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: sixth January twenty twenty one speech in a Panorama documentary, 57 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: and Donald Trump's accused the broad caster of defamation and 58 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: of violating a trade practices law. The BBC says, well, 59 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: we're going to defend that. And now finally some Lizzo 60 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: So Pop souers elebrating a legal victory after a judge 61 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: dismissed allegations of fat shaming. This is a twenty twenty 62 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: three lawsuit filed by three of her former dancers who 63 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: she called fat. While those specific allegations have been dropped, 64 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: the case against Lizzo and her production company will continue 65 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 2: overclaims that the three dancers were subject to sexual harassment. 66 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 2: It's nine after five. 67 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the day earli 68 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: Eredition with Andrew Dickins and r V Supercenter explore r 69 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: v's accessories and servicing all in one news talks. 70 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: That'd be all right, here's the moment I go for Grandpa. 71 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: I went for a walk yesterday just before the storm 72 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: came in. It was a beautiful walk. It was a 73 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: nice and warm and I saw two men working on 74 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: the most magnificent garden. So it's our main road. It's 75 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: on a slope facing the road. It's very very visible. 76 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: It's very very architectural. Nine shrubs cut into giant toperary balls. 77 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: It's amazing, the precision of the work, the dramatic mass 78 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: of box cut hedges around it, rock gardens and stairs 79 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: and concrete benches, all top off with four magnificent cypresses. 80 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: It's our work of art that we can all share. 81 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: From the road. And I caught the eye of one 82 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: of the professional gardeners, and I point it to the 83 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: gardener and gave them two thumbs up. In a chef's kiss, 84 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: and he smiled a big smile, gave me a thumbs up. 85 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: And that was a man proud of his work, a 86 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 2: job well done, a beautiful garden we can all enjoy. 87 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: And I do like fantastic gardens by the road. They 88 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: make a suburbs sing, don't they. It's a gift to 89 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: the community. I tend two gardens. One's a little one 90 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: and one's a big one. I've been working on them 91 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: a lot recently, getting them ready for Christmas. And if 92 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: I invited you round today, you'd say, oh, Andrew, nice garden, 93 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: and I'd be proud, and I'd be happy to make 94 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: you happy. And I say this because as I drive 95 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: to work, I drive through a state house area, an 96 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: old fashioned one, you know, with those three bedroom wooden 97 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: boxes set on grass fields. There are no plantings, there 98 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: is no garden, and the grass is often long and 99 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: uncared for. There's junk in the grass, there's cars in 100 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: the grass. There's maybe one or two lost children in 101 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: the grass. If I lived in such an environment, I 102 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: be on the booze or the gear as well. And 103 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: I have no idea why our state house areas are 104 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: so often so desolate. Why the tenants who have been 105 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: offered this lifeline take no pride in the property. You know, 106 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: if I was a state, I'd give you some tools 107 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: and say check you every six months have you done 108 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: some gardening? And check also that you haven't sold the 109 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: tools for a slab of beer. The state of your 110 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: garden is a reflection of your soul and pride and 111 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: ambition and care for the community. It can be done 112 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 2: very cheap, so go and do it for everybody's mental 113 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 2: health wellbeing. Twelve after five. I couldn't believe the story 114 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: yesterday about a local body result being thrown out over 115 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: claims of voter fraud. What country do we live in? 116 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: What country do we live in? Anyway? So what happened 117 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: in this electorate? And is there anything we can do 118 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: about it? We'll talk to the CEO of Transparency International, 119 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: New Zealand next here on Newstalks MB. It's twelve after 120 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: five on. 121 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: Your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with Andrew 122 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: Dickens and are the Supercenter explore r v's accessories and 123 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: servicing more than one news talks. 124 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: B All right, it is now forteen minutes after five. 125 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 2: There are concerns about the integrity of our elections. After 126 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: a South Auckland local body result was thrown out over 127 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: claims of voter fraud, Amnico judge found irregularities in the 128 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: Puppet Toy Toy subdivision that affected the result. That means 129 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: a new election has to be held next year. Investigators 130 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: say seventy nine votes were cast without the voter's knowledge, 131 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: some allegedly taken straight from the mailboxes. Julie Hagey as 132 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: the CEO of Transparency International New Zealand, and joins you 133 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: now goombording. 134 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: To you, Julie, good morning. 135 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: This is pretty concerning. Really, we haven't really heard much 136 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: of this sort of thing in the past. 137 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: No, that's right. I think this is a very unusual case. 138 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 3: There have been complaints to judges, but none's actually none 139 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: has actually resulted in a an overturning of an election 140 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: as far as I could look back, as far as 141 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: I could see, So it's it is really an unusual case. 142 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: And I have to say I haven't seen the decision 143 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: of the complaint and no charge has been laid, but 144 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: though there are two investigations underway, so I can talk 145 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: about its publicly available in the media. 146 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, it's interesting. It's interesting when they've looked at 147 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: seventy nine votes four the four councilors who got onto 148 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: the board all got on with majorities between twelve hundred 149 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: and two thousand. Would seventy nine irregular votes actually affecting 150 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: a result? 151 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that what the judge said 152 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: was that there was an indication that there might be more, 153 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: and that this was just the ones they opened, and 154 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: they found that a high portion of them had been 155 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: were actually voted for the group of the group, and 156 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: so they said there's likely to be it's likely to 157 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: be a bigger problem. And so I think that's the 158 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: biggest issue. The threshold they have to get to under 159 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: the Local Literal Act, judge has to get to to 160 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: look at avoiding a result, and he got to that, 161 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: and that's that's a high threshold. So it's not it's 162 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: clearly there's a range of issues. We don't know them 163 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 3: all yet, but clearly there's a range of problems. 164 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: Do you recogmen, there's more electorates and more elections that 165 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: are affected by the sort of thing. 166 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: Oh well, no, I don't see evidence. We've got pretty 167 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: good systems and in this election there's been several challenges 168 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: to the district Court and quite a few of them 169 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: have been overturned because they hadn't met that three shold. 170 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: So I think there is a process for people to 171 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 3: go through. It probably needs in this select committee that 172 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: looked into the last local abody election, the previous local 173 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: body election, said thinks there are some changes that need 174 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: to be made the law to strengthen it and to 175 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: increase the penalties. But it does seem to be picking up. 176 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: That's a good thing about this is that a person 177 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 3: made the made the effort to go to make a 178 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: district court inquiry to position for that and. 179 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 8: Got a result. 180 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: So that's that's a good thing. There's a good thing 181 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 3: about our system. 182 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: Random mission. Well, I was going to say, you could 183 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: say it was caught, and you know, it was caught 184 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 2: and the result was thrown out and that shows in 185 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: a way that our system is working. But it was 186 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: only caught because Viv House here, who's the deputy chairman 187 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: of the board, actually had some concerns and brought the complaint. 188 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: So is the system really working or do we need 189 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: whistleblowers like Viv Well? 190 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: I think it does, it doesn't. We do need people. 191 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: Is your right to say we don't think this voting 192 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: process has been run correctly. It's not just about somebody 193 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 3: above that finding it out. So everybody has got to 194 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: write to do that in relation to their voter, in 195 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 3: relation to their who voted for them or who didn't 196 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 3: vote for them. They've got a right to get that. 197 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 3: There's there's problems with the timing. They have to get 198 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 3: it through very quickly, so that's a that's an issue 199 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: with timing. But it is that system does seem to 200 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: be does seem to have held up in this case, 201 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 3: although we now need to see the police investigations are underway. 202 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: What really matters is that if there has been malfis 203 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: what's happening here, people are actually held to account, and 204 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: that's the real nub of this. It might be harder 205 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: to prove, but I'm hopeful that the police are putting 206 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: good energy into the those investigations. 207 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Julie Hagey, And of course I 208 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: mentioned of iv Housier. Hausier is on with Ever after 209 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: six o'clock to day to talk about what she found 210 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: and the process she went through, text through saying I've 211 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: just listened to your insults in regard to State House tenants. 212 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: Your comments were rude and ignorant and deliberately designed to 213 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: incite stereotypes and discrimination. I'm sorry, just do your gardens? 214 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: Is that too much to ask? It's five nineteen. We 215 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: have brand new ministry. It's called MSERT, needs a better name. 216 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: You can text me your ideas ninety two ninety two. 217 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: This is a big murder of the I'll tell you 218 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 2: more about this after the break. We're going to talk 219 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: to a FELLO from Transporting New Zealand about whether this 220 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: is a good move. 221 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: News and Views you trust to start your day in 222 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: earlier this ship with Andrew Dickins and are the Supercenter explore? 223 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: Are these accessories and servicing fallen? News talks? 224 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: They'd be five. 225 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: Twenty one gone in other days when we're going to 226 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: have separate ministries for transport, the environment and housing, they're 227 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 2: all going to be merged into one mega ministry called MSERT, 228 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: the Ministry for Cities, Environment, Regions and Transport. So let's 229 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,599 Speaker 2: talk to Don Callacy, who is the CEO of Transporting 230 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: New Zealand, and of course the new ministry will affect 231 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 2: his sector. 232 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 9: Hello Don, morning, Andrew. 233 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: Are you happy with this? News or is it or whatever. 234 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 9: I think that there is some sensibility to it. You know, 235 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 9: I think navigating across different ministries and agencies can be difficult, 236 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 9: So sometimes having less is small and ultimately transports one 237 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 9: part of a larger ecosystem, and so you know, taking 238 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 9: a more unified, connected approach does make some sense. 239 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, transport has an awful lot of work in 240 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 2: front of it, the transition to electronic road user charges 241 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 2: and congestion pricing, and there's a whole lot of technical 242 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 2: work as well, and now it's being merged into one 243 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: big mega ministry where they're thinking about other stuff as well. 244 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: Are you worried that that sort of work might actually 245 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: not be done as efficiently as when you had a 246 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: dedicated ministry of transport. 247 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 9: I think there is a risk, and that is something 248 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 9: we're worried about. We've just sort of started to get 249 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 9: some momentum in those areas and we don't want to 250 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 9: lose that. But look, in terms of a mega ministry, 251 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 9: I had a quick look last night, and from what 252 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 9: I can gather, bringing those three ministries together, plus you've 253 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 9: got some from DIA, you're probably looking at about thirteen 254 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 9: hundred maybe forteen hundred people at the most. But if 255 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 9: you look at other agencies and ministries, mby's got about 256 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 9: six thousand people. MDPA has got about three thousand people. 257 00:12:55,559 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 9: So you know, big organizations like this there already exists, 258 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 9: is there, working to various degrees of success. It is 259 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 9: what it is, and we'll be doing everything we can 260 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 9: to help the new ministry. 261 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: Good Man, good commenttion. I thank you so much as 262 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: Don Calassy from transporting New Zealand's but he's quite right 263 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: about MB Okay. MB has a problem. It's a mega 264 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: ministry and nobody knows who's reporting to who. It's very messy. 265 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: So will this one be exactly the same as MB 266 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: even though it will be smaller. Remember, under this ministry 267 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: they've got RMA reform and transport reforms that we've just 268 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: heard about to get through. Do they have the capacity 269 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: to get that right? Here's the thing about though it's 270 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: not reducing the amount of ministers, nor can anyone tell 271 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: me that it automatically means a dramatic reduction in the 272 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: number of public servants and their salaries, which, of course 273 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: a lot of people are wanting right now to help 274 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: the books. As sir Brian Roach reported this week we 275 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 2: have a massive public service sixty two, six hundred and 276 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: fifty four staff in June of this year, compared to 277 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: sixty five six hundred ninety nine at the peak, which 278 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: is back in twenty twenty three. We've still got nearly 279 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: sixty three one thousand public servants. We've got forty three departments, 280 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: departmental agencies into departmental executive boards of various sizes and mandates, 281 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: all operating right now, more than most small advanced economies. Can. 282 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: We manage costs at the moment, Sir Brian says, no, 283 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: maintain critical capacity no, and deliver joined up services with 284 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,119 Speaker 2: a system perspective. 285 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 7: No. 286 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: And here we are making an even bigger one. It 287 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: is five twenty four. 288 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: The early edition Full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by 289 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: News Talks it B. 290 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: These Talks it B five twenty six. Well, ladies and gentlemen, 291 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: we're broke. The half year the government fiscal update shows 292 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: we're still in debt and the debt is getting bigger. 293 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: So we're broke. Not enough money, everything's more expensive, so 294 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: it's off to the money lender before the bailiffs come 295 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: in and sell everything. Sounds like a lot of households 296 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: around me. Idealy, of course we'll be in surplus. That 297 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: will mean we have raised enough money to actually pay 298 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: our way. Then we'd have more money than costs. But 299 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: we act and the possibility of that happening has got 300 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: further away. So make no misas sake. Deficit is bad, 301 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: but surplus actually that's only just okay, that's how bad 302 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: we are, and we're getting more and more into debt. 303 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: The government has a debt to GDP ratio of forty 304 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: one point eight percent. It used to be twenty nine, 305 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: and it's forecast to rise to over forty six percent 306 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: before it starts going down. But you can just say 307 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: we're broke. Simple, easy, let's put another lens on it. Though. 308 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: The New Zealand government has posted a surplus seventeen times 309 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty. That's seventeen times and forty five years. 310 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: So the government has been broken, had to run off 311 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: to the money lenders sixty two percent of the time 312 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty, being broke as our normal. And if 313 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: I applied the surplus deficit debt ratio to my own finances, 314 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: then I've been broke most of my adult life. I 315 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: mean hello, who hasn't had a debt to equity ratio 316 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: of ninety five percent in their lives. So if you 317 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: look at that at that way, it's not so bad. 318 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: And we're still on the right half of the indebted 319 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: nations list because everyone's broke. I think sometimes we're a 320 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: bit naive when we demand surpluses about just how hard 321 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: it is to do. If you listen to Stephen Joyce 322 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: on Heather's show yesterday, he said government books are hard 323 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: to turn. Like a super tanker. As he said yesterday, 324 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: it can take up to a decade to go from 325 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: deficit to surplus. But some of us think, oh, a 326 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: few public service cuts and cuts to benefits and we'll 327 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: be tickety boot. Our fiscal crisis is far more fundamental 328 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: than that, and that the problem is we don't make 329 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: enough money in this world to fix it. We need 330 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: to make more money in the world so we have 331 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: more tax revenue, so we can then afford the good 332 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: stuff and the necessary stuff, and so we don't have 333 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: to have debt. So my question to you is, what 334 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: are you doing there standing here listening to this. Get 335 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: to work, make more money, said be five twenty nine. 336 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: So I got stuck into State House gardens and I 337 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: got insulted. Graham agrees with me, though agree with your 338 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: granddad moment. If someone is good enough to have a 339 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: house for you to live in state or private, then 340 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: it's a good form to look after it and the grounds. 341 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: And unfortunately, in this modern time, a thing called entitlement, 342 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 2: combined with laziness and arrogance, create a whole lot of 343 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: airheaded people who like living in their own mess and 344 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: expect everybody else to clean it up. Thank you, Graham, 345 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: And Taylor says Andrew, you can make even a muddy 346 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: pig look okay if you just wash it. My partner 347 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: and I live down a cul de sac driveway. We 348 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: get out and always tidy the shared gardens on the 349 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: shared driveway. It doesn't take a lot, makes everything look better. 350 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: We even water blasted the fence for everyone. People don't 351 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: seem to have much pride in their space, Thank you, Taylor. 352 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 2: And that's true. Still on the way, Barbara Edmonds from Labor, 353 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: how would she run the economy better? Well, there's a 354 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: big question. 355 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on Earlieredition with r v's Supercenter explore r 356 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: v's accessories and servicing all in one news talks IVY. 357 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: Well outside is prideful, but the fire is so delightful. 358 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 4: And since we've no place. 359 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: To go, it's snow. 360 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 10: Let it snow. 361 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: Let it still, well it does. We're sitting a cold 362 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: bunch of air coming over the country right now, but 363 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna snow. I never know why we play 364 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 2: songs like this in New Zealand when it's summer, but 365 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: there we go. Let us know that it's no merry 366 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: Christmas to you all. So we've been a bit negative 367 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 2: of what with the fact that the country's broken, me 368 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: complaining about the state of state house cardens or by 369 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 2: the way Texas says regarding the state housing, perhaps a 370 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: competition could be instigated with a prize offered for the 371 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: best cap grounds with maybe a rent production. I think 372 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: that's great and I'd like to see the pictures. Here 373 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: is the best kept state house by a tenant, and 374 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: this person gets a month free win. How about that? 375 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: I don't know anyway, So I thought you might need 376 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: some good news here some good news. The Sir Colin 377 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: Giltrap Raceway, a world class karting facility in Auckland, is 378 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: officially opening The track builds on our carting heritage because 379 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 2: we're so good at the karting and the track will 380 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: be opened by six car six time IndyCar Chapian Scott 381 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: Dixon fifty nine career wins first QUI to win the 382 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: Indy five hundred. Scott Dixon is in with Heather. Here's 383 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: to Sir Colin Giltrap and his family with what they've 384 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: done in terms of giving back with their money, in 385 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 2: terms of facilities and helping people. You know, Liam Lawson 386 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: wouldn't be anywhere without Colin, So thank you so much 387 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: to the Giltrap family for what you've done and can't 388 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: wait to see this world class carting facility in Auckland. 389 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: Have more about It TV and said meanwhile, has released 390 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 2: what it's biggest shows were ever the year. Not surprisingly, 391 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 2: One News was its biggest. They reckon seventy percent of 392 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: all key we saw One News but at number two spot, 393 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: Shouldn't I Country Calendar, the country's longest running television series. 394 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: Both One News and Hundai Country Calendar have been in 395 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: the top three shows in all New Zealand television since 396 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. Because we like a bit of news and 397 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 2: we love the country Farmers, We love you. Oh and finally, 398 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: speaking of New Zealand, Wellington Avatar Avatar made in New Zealand. 399 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: The reviews are out and they're a bit lukewarm, fair 400 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: to say. The one I like the most was which 401 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: he knew sex interests can't save this gigantically dull hunger 402 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: of nonsense. It's twenty one to six news talks 'd 403 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 2: be in the country. We go Callen Proctor from Motago. 404 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 2: Good morning to you morning Andrew. If you need urgent 405 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: twenty four to seven care, You've got a new facility, Yeah, 406 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: we do. 407 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 11: A new service opens today here in Doneda. It's the 408 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 11: Daneedan Urgent Doctors and Accident Center. It will give locals 409 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 11: round the clock healthcare support and access. It's part of 410 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 11: the government one hundred and sixty four million dollar investment 411 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 11: to improve urgent and after our services. So Danieda Miyors 412 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 11: Sophie Barker is happy with this. She says the region's 413 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 11: growing population and student culture means these services are urgent, 414 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 11: and she says she knows from her own experience, especially 415 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 11: from her student days waiting in A and E, and 416 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 11: that people need shorter wait times to receive better care. 417 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather call it today? 418 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 11: Here early morning shower or two southwesterly sixteen the high. 419 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: And who can go clear shure with from christ Church? 420 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning. You've got a new art exhibition 421 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: to visit. 422 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 12: Yeah, and we do, and it's bank See. We've got 423 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 12: more than one hundred and fifty original artworks from the 424 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 12: world famous street artist on display over summer at Tipei 425 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 12: Convention Center here in christ Church. The exhibit has traveled 426 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 12: to more than twenty cities, but this is the first 427 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 12: time it's come to the South Island. Curator and producer 428 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 12: Michelle Borschma says the original flower thrower artwork will be 429 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 12: on show. There's also some installations that provide insight into 430 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 12: Banksy's creative process. As a hub for street art, christ 431 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 12: Church is said to be the best city to host 432 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 12: a displayed like this. The venue has made it one 433 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 12: of the best versions they've done on the tour. Borschmar 434 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 12: says to have an over of one artist in one 435 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 12: space is very unique and this is what they would 436 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 12: consider a museum grade exhibition on tour. 437 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: Now, it's quite good. I went and I bought a 438 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 2: T shirt when it was in Auckland. Now, how do 439 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 2: you weather a little bit more like winter here? 440 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 12: This morning We've got Shaoer's thundery bit of hail about 441 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 12: then turning to a heavier rain. Some southwesterlies will ease 442 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 12: by this evening. The high only seventeen. 443 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: Not t shirt weather Maxtell from Wellington, Good morning to 444 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: you morning. VIC University is officially AI friendly. 445 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 12: Yeah. 446 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 8: This is the annual academic ranking of world universities, also 447 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 8: known as the Shanghai Ranking, which has put Victoria in 448 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 8: the top fifty in terms of being AI friendly of 449 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 8: graduates being ready to work in or with AI A 450 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 8: Singaporean institute number one, a Chinese Uni two, Toronto three. 451 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 8: Apparently Vick has been making a concerted push in the 452 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 8: past few years to focus on AI, make sure it's 453 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 8: incorporated into different studies. One tech expert tolus. Companies often 454 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 8: have to look offshore for expertise, but that's certainly been 455 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 8: growing in the capital. A lot of people in the 456 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 8: public sector using AI more and more to positive and 457 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 8: negative effect. Newly created roles as well in the tertiary 458 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 8: sector in this country is having to respond to that demand. 459 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather. 460 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 8: Another wet day with stronger southerly so cool fifteen the hay. 461 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 2: And I thank you. Wendy Pittrick now joins me from 462 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 2: AUKLANDHALLO Wendy for inner. Oh we're talking about rubbish collection. 463 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 7: Oh, I know it's an exciting topic, isn't it. Rubbish 464 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 7: Auckland a council is trashing a plan to trial a 465 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 7: fortnightly rubbish collection, but the idea hasn't been removed from 466 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 7: the picture now. The trial would have included ten thousand 467 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 7: households in Tiata two Peninsula, Palma, Tamakie, Clinton Park and Weymouth. 468 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 7: Of the more than five thousand submissions, seventy eight percent 469 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 7: actually opposed trialing a fortnightly rubbish collection. Councilor Daniel Newman 470 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 7: says the possibility of fortnite collection lives on in the 471 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 7: current waste management minimization plan. He says he and other 472 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 7: counselors will try to permanently move the region to a 473 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 7: weekly service next year. So I guess we'll just have 474 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 7: to wait. 475 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: Do you fill your rubbish bin every week? 476 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 7: Well? I yes, I do. 477 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 2: Actually no, we're about free court. We're about seventy five percent. 478 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: Sometimes We've got a low rubbish week where it's only fifty, 479 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 2: but other times we're packed, I know, so every fortnight 480 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: I think we'd be spilling out. 481 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I admire people that do manage to 482 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 7: have hardly any rubbish. So we do try. 483 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: Orkan's weather. 484 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 7: Oh wow, looking at a few cloudy periods with a 485 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 7: few showers today, mainly in the morning, though southwesterlyis will 486 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 7: be strong in the afternoon. Heading for twenty degrees and. 487 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: I thank you. It is seventeen minutes to six still 488 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: to come. Before six o'clock. We are talking with Barbara Edmunds, 489 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 2: of course, the finance spokesperson for the Labor Party, about 490 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: what she would do differently. Could she really do anything differently? 491 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: Craig sent me a text, Andrew, why doesn't Barbara Edmonds 492 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 2: also take responsibility for our government running deficits. She needs 493 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: to remember the borrowing and spending that Labor did when 494 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 2: they were in government. They spent like drunken sailors. And 495 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 2: this is also the recent our economy is in such 496 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: a state. And then there's four exclamation marks. But as 497 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: I put it out, Craig, in the last forty five years, 498 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: who only ever had seventeen surpluses. We've always been spending 499 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: like drunken sailors. It's just that labour's bit more anyway. 500 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: Barbara is here very shortly, but nixt Gavin Gray from 501 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: the UK. 502 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: International correspondence with Insigne Eye Insurance Peace of Mind for 503 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: New Zealand business. 504 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 2: Yes, it's now forteen minutes to sixth to the UK 505 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,479 Speaker 2: with Gavin greg Good morning to you hither and so 506 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 2: what's happened to the bloke who uses car as a 507 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: whip and he plowed into more than one hundred and 508 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 2: thirty people at Liverpool's football club's victory parade. 509 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 4: Yes, back in twenty six of May. This was a 510 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 4: fifty four year old former Royal Marine was sitting in 511 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 4: doc and showed no emotion. Was He was sentenced and 512 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 4: jailed for twenty one years and six months. He plowed 513 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 4: his vehicle into more than one hundred and thirty people 514 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 4: at the victory parade. He admitted thirty one charges, including 515 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 4: causing grievous bodily harm with intent and dangerous driving and 516 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 4: a fray. The victims ranged from a six month old 517 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 4: baby to a seventy seven year old woman. Now, the 518 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 4: judge and the caught her that the married father of 519 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 4: three was traveling into the city center to collect friends 520 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 4: from that parade when he lost his temper and then 521 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 4: drove his forward Galaxy car directly into supporters dashcom footage 522 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 4: was played in court. It was horrendous. It accelerated down 523 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 4: Water Street, which had been closed for traffic, and in 524 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 4: the footage it can be heard shouting move, move and 525 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 4: swearing at the crowd, including after he hit a ten 526 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 4: year old girl who when no defects in the car. 527 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 4: He was not under the influence of drink or drugs 528 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 4: and only recently changed his plea. 529 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 2: So he didn't get angry at the Liverpool team, did he? 530 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: He got angry just because the parade was in his way. 531 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 4: I just think, you know, he just that was never 532 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 4: really clearly explained in the court. He just got angry 533 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 4: and the red miss came down and then for some 534 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 4: reason cloud into the crowd. 535 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 2: Oh right, speaking of angry Donald Trump versus the BBC. 536 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 4: Yes, this could be an expensive few months for the BBC. 537 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 4: He has now launched a five billion US dollar so 538 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 4: that's roughly eight billion New Zealand dollar lawsuit filed by 539 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 4: him because of an edit over his speech January twenty 540 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 4: twenty one. Now that was ahead of the twenty twenty 541 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 4: four US election, and it was on the day that 542 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 4: there were riots at the US Capitol. So in full, 543 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 4: he basically says, look, they cheated the BBC. A change 544 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 4: the words that came out of his mouth. What came 545 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 4: out of his mouth Andrew was quote, We're going to 546 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 4: walk down to the Capitol and we're going to cheer 547 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 4: on our brave senators and congressmen and women. Fifty minutes 548 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 4: later he said, and we fight, We fight like hell. 549 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 4: But the Panorama documentary program by the BBC showed a 550 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 4: clip with him which connected the two in this way. 551 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 4: It said We're going to walk down to the Capitol, 552 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 4: I'll be there with you, and we fight. We fight 553 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 4: like hell, making it seem like he was, of course 554 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 4: promoting or inviting people to fight, which he says that 555 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 4: absolutely is not his intention. So this very expensive lawsuit, 556 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 4: the BBC say they will defend. They said there was 557 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 4: no malice in the edit and that he was reelected 558 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 4: shortly after. They had a whole load of excuses. We'll 559 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 4: wait to see where this leaves for the BBC. 560 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 2: They have to defend it. It's their entire name and honor, 561 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: and I Thankgavin Gray from the UK. By the way, 562 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: I just want to mention the couple in the dash 563 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: cam footage out of Bandai who were killed trying to 564 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: fight off the Bondai shooter. They've been identified as Boris 565 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: and Sofia German. The footage you may have seen it 566 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: shows the moment that Boris tackled the shooter, said Akram 567 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 2: wrestled the gun from him, but it was all for 568 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: nothing because the second gunman killed Boris and Sofia in 569 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: cold blood. We don't have one hero on this day. 570 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: We've certainly have three, and we probably have more. It 571 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: is now ten to. 572 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: Six News Talk Siddy. 573 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: All right, We've got the treasuries half year scorecard yesterday. 574 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: It's not pretty. The government's books are worse than expected. 575 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: The surplus timeline has been pushed back a bit to 576 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: twenty nine thirty. That's back a year. The deficit blows 577 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: out to nearly fourteen billion dollars, one point eight billion 578 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: worse than back in May. So Nichola Wis was quick 579 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: to defend herself. 580 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 13: We had the receipts and unfortunately for labor having opposed 581 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 13: every saving that we have delivered. They cannot take a 582 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 13: position of responsible fiscal management. 583 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: So Labor's economics spokesperson Barbara Vans is with us. Hello Barbara, 584 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: good morning Andrew. What do you say to what Nicholas said? 585 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 5: Oh, of course she's attacking Labor. She's also attacking the 586 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 5: taxpayer union, who also said the books have gotten worse. 587 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 5: The alternative is is she would have to defend her books. 588 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 5: And as you've said, what can we already know? Christopher 589 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 5: Luxe and Nicholas have made things harder? 590 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: Would you have made things better? 591 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 5: Absolutely? If you looked at what we had in the 592 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 5: pre election fiscal updates, we would have been in surplus 593 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 5: in twenty six twenty seven. But the books don't lie. 594 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 5: I mean ultimately, unemployed mom is forecast to get worse. 595 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 5: Growth as weaker than expected, and food prices continue to 596 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 5: go up, you know, basics like bread is fifty three 597 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 5: percent higher over the last year. 598 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: And what would you as a government do to actually 599 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: change that? Would you cut spending? How would you cut spending? 600 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: Would you cut spending? 601 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 5: Well, ultimately, we told them that the tax cuts were unaffordable. 602 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 5: In the twenty three election, also it's all about choices. 603 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 5: They've decided to spend money on property speculator. 604 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: Hold on, holda notice. Barbara I said, would you cut 605 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: spending and then you started talking about the tax cuts, 606 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: which is about tax we'll get onto that later. Would 607 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: you reduce the amount that that any government, if you 608 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: were running it spends. 609 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's what the forecast did show the pre 610 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 5: Food twenty twenty three. We'd also gone through a consolidation 611 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 5: as well. 612 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: Okay, so you've met it already. Of course, the tax cuts, 613 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: the moving of the thresholds, you obviously would not have 614 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: done that, So that means you would have had higher 615 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 2: taxes than national currently has. Would you have increased taxes? 616 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 5: We would have kept on the same track that we 617 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 5: had had in twenty twenty three. That was our plan 618 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 5: back at the election. Ultimately, it all comes down to choices, 619 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 5: and they've chosen to give funding to things that don't 620 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 5: help everyday kiwis like with the cost of living. 621 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,719 Speaker 2: Okay. In the high food the cost of superannuation payments 622 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: is projected to increase from twenty four point eight billion 623 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: in twenty five twenty six to thirty point nine billion 624 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 2: and twenty nine thirty. All economists say this is the 625 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: biggest spending driver. Would you cut super. 626 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 5: No, We've said we'd keep it at sixty five, and 627 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 5: that's something that every party would need to take to 628 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 5: the election as well. New Zealanders want to be able 629 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 5: to plan for their retirement. Of course, obviously superannuation is 630 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 5: part of that. Housing as part of that, qui saver, 631 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 5: as part of that. 632 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: Okay, well, how about this one, Working for families tax credits. 633 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: If you abolish those, you could save three billion in 634 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: twenty five to twenty six, or nearly fifteen billion over 635 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: the forecast period. So would you cut working for families 636 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: tax credits? 637 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 5: No, because we know right now it's really difficult for 638 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 5: a lot of families and they depend on their weekly 639 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 5: Working for families will be work working for families every week. 640 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: Okay, So how exactly would you reduce the cost of living, 641 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: which is about the only meta you've said you do 642 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 2: so far. How would you do that? 643 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 5: So we'll set out much more of our cost of 644 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 5: living plan and next year as part of the election. 645 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 5: But we're also so far already announced, for example, that 646 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 5: we would look at providing three free GP visits for 647 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 5: people coming out all. 648 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 2: Right, thank you, Barbara. Barbara Edmonds is ladies for that spokesperson. 649 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: And this is new stalks. 650 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: ETB the news you need this morning and the in 651 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: depth analysis earlier this year with Andrew Dickens and our 652 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: the Supercenter explore our these accessories and servicing all in 653 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: one news TALKSB. 654 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 2: Albert Reckons. No substance in what are you saying? Just slogans? 655 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: I agree. I asked this some quite specific questions, no answers. 656 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 10: Hello, Heather, how about how about I turn on that 657 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 10: microphone there? 658 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 2: You're getting pretty flash at this job. Forgot the basics, 659 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 2: but you know what it is. 660 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 10: It's because we all have to give ourselves, cut ourselves 661 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 10: a little bit of slack. This is the Wednesday before Christmas. 662 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: Like you've got three more days to work. Yeah, you're starting. 663 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 10: You don't want to be winding down, but your body's 664 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 10: running out. 665 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 2: And then a house Barbara, and she said, what will 666 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 2: the announce some stuff close into the election, And I thought, 667 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: I wought do matter? 668 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 10: Is this bad has frustrated to you? 669 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 2: Has she? 670 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 7: Oh? 671 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 2: Yes, of course. Yeah. 672 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 10: Well they're between a rock and a hard place, aren't they, 673 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 10: Because they have absolutely no economic credibility, but they have 674 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 10: and we have absolutely no money, but they want to spend. 675 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 2: We have no money and this matter, whether it's National 676 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: or Labor, we haven't. As I told you this morning, 677 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 2: We've only had seventeen services. 678 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 10: He is an outrageous idea for you. Do you think 679 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 10: Nikola Willis should have been a Labor Party finance minister? 680 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 10: She could be anybody be quite credible as a Labor 681 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 10: Party final Piari as well. 682 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: She's a bit flannelly as. 683 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 10: Well, loves to spend. 684 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: Sorry, very good. All right here that's next. My thanks 685 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: to producer Kenzie. Yeah, I'll see you tomorrow. By about 686 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 2: now this morning, thought i'd write it, Chris Smash, how 687 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 2: quickly can you build this? 688 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 7: Morment? Thank be. 689 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. 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