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Speaker 1: The Treaty Principles Bill of Course made at the Parliament yesterday,

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Speaker 1: debated and voted on, but between its arrival and the

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Speaker 1: House and the departure to Select Committee, all hell broke.

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Speaker 1: Loose Speaker bailed on the day, suspended the Parliament. The

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Speaker 1: former Speaker, so lockwood Smith was watching, he's with us,

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Speaker 1: good morning to you morning mate. That as bad as

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Speaker 1: you've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have to be as bad as I've

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Speaker 2: ever seen. I guess you know. My feeling after it

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Speaker 2: was just one of real sadness, real sadness to see

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Speaker 2: Parliament treated that way?

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Speaker 1: Did Jerry Browny do all he could?

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, you can't blame the Speaker. I

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Speaker 2: think you can blame Jerry at all. I think at

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Speaker 2: the end he had no choice but suspend the House

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Speaker 2: and let things settle down and have the gallery cleared.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, some of the rot has started

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Speaker 2: a way back. The whole standard of the place has

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Speaker 2: been lowered in recent years, and I think this is

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Speaker 2: just once you start letting slipped, it just orench happens

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Speaker 2: or another centimeter and so it goes on. And it

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Speaker 2: was what everyone feels about the bill. It's a significant issue,

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Speaker 2: and the reason why I turn it on to watch

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Speaker 2: was because I don't do that every day. It was

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Speaker 2: to hear what people had to say about this issue,

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Speaker 2: and rarely was what the bill actually says even mentioned

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Speaker 2: at all.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if it's a House of representatives in the

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Speaker 1: fact that we as a society have slipped as well,

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Speaker 1: and they merely represent our lack of decorum as well.

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Speaker 2: I guess you can argue that my indeed. But you know,

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Speaker 2: Parliament is meant to be a place where those who

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Speaker 2: we choose to represent us from our areas represent us

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Speaker 2: in the House and are meant to be the leaders

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Speaker 2: of our communities that we elect to Parliament. You know,

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Speaker 2: these are meant to be some of our most respected citizens,

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Speaker 2: because Parliament is the highest court in the land, and

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Speaker 2: they're meant to be our most respected citizens. In the

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Speaker 2: old days, you know, when I stood for Parliament, you

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Speaker 2: had to you know, it was a major process you

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Speaker 2: went through to get selected to stand for Parliament, let

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Speaker 2: alone get elected to Parliament. And that, of course it's

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Speaker 2: no secret. I make no secret to the fact that

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Speaker 2: I'm no fan of MMP, and I think that's partly

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Speaker 2: the reason why Parliament is in such decline.

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Speaker 1: I think you're probably right. Appreciate your insights of Lockwoodmith

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