1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,027 Speaker 1: from Newstalk ZEDB. 3 00:00:12,707 --> 00:00:15,627 Speaker 2: Ocean Race, the world's toughest test of a team in sport, 4 00:00:15,747 --> 00:00:18,867 Speaker 2: is returning to Auckland in the twenty twenty seven edition 5 00:00:18,947 --> 00:00:21,907 Speaker 2: of the iconic Around the World Offshore Race, formerly known 6 00:00:21,947 --> 00:00:24,667 Speaker 2: as the Whitbread Round the World Race, the Volvo Ocean 7 00:00:24,747 --> 00:00:27,667 Speaker 2: Race last scene here in New Zealand in twenty eighteen. 8 00:00:28,267 --> 00:00:31,267 Speaker 2: Among those taking part will be key We Offshore sailor 9 00:00:31,667 --> 00:00:36,147 Speaker 2: and two times solo vond Globe racer Conrad Coleman, who 10 00:00:36,187 --> 00:00:39,547 Speaker 2: has announced his new team alt Oa Ocean Racing will 11 00:00:39,547 --> 00:00:42,187 Speaker 2: take on the challenge. Conrad Coleman's in studio with us. 12 00:00:42,307 --> 00:00:43,867 Speaker 2: Great to see you, mate, Thanks for stopping and tell 13 00:00:43,947 --> 00:00:47,027 Speaker 2: us about this project and your motivation for it. 14 00:00:47,827 --> 00:00:52,187 Speaker 3: Well, it's pretty epic because it's rare, as I'm forty 15 00:00:52,227 --> 00:00:55,107 Speaker 3: one now that we get to live out a childhood 16 00:00:55,187 --> 00:00:59,267 Speaker 3: dream and I grew up here in Auckland and every 17 00:00:59,267 --> 00:01:03,027 Speaker 3: couple of years then we had this epic Whitbread as 18 00:01:03,027 --> 00:01:05,667 Speaker 3: it was then fleet that came ripping in and out 19 00:01:05,667 --> 00:01:09,547 Speaker 3: of the harbor, typically with New Zealanders that were lifting 20 00:01:09,547 --> 00:01:14,427 Speaker 3: the trophy. You know, obviously Peter Blake, ground Dalton and 21 00:01:14,907 --> 00:01:18,427 Speaker 3: all of these legends, and as a schoolboy, this is 22 00:01:18,467 --> 00:01:21,947 Speaker 3: what got me excited. And I have now sort of 23 00:01:22,387 --> 00:01:26,107 Speaker 3: had a long and winding road, but it ultimately became 24 00:01:26,147 --> 00:01:29,227 Speaker 3: a professional ocean racing staler myself, but in a very 25 00:01:29,267 --> 00:01:31,987 Speaker 3: particular sector. You know, I moved to France to do 26 00:01:32,107 --> 00:01:35,587 Speaker 3: this solo ocean race, the Vonde Globe, and that is 27 00:01:35,667 --> 00:01:40,187 Speaker 3: completely completely unique. It's a professional ocean racing circuit based 28 00:01:40,227 --> 00:01:44,027 Speaker 3: around sailing solo either across Atlantic or indeed, as I've 29 00:01:44,067 --> 00:01:48,267 Speaker 3: just done two times around the world, and now the 30 00:01:48,267 --> 00:01:52,787 Speaker 3: ocean race as it is now called has adopted the 31 00:01:52,787 --> 00:01:54,867 Speaker 3: same fleet of boats that I have just become an 32 00:01:54,867 --> 00:01:57,747 Speaker 3: expert in sailing, and so I kind of feel like, 33 00:01:58,227 --> 00:02:00,667 Speaker 3: quite by accident, is that I've become sort of centrally 34 00:02:00,667 --> 00:02:03,147 Speaker 3: located in this fusion of these two worlds. What used 35 00:02:03,187 --> 00:02:06,147 Speaker 3: to be called the whipbread fully crued ocean racing coming 36 00:02:06,147 --> 00:02:08,587 Speaker 3: to New Zealand and what I've just completed, the non 37 00:02:08,667 --> 00:02:09,907 Speaker 3: stops all the race around the world. 38 00:02:10,507 --> 00:02:12,907 Speaker 2: So the boats then tell us about those are they 39 00:02:13,427 --> 00:02:14,587 Speaker 2: are they foiling boats? 40 00:02:14,907 --> 00:02:18,787 Speaker 3: Yes? Absolutely so for around the world racing. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 41 00:02:18,907 --> 00:02:22,227 Speaker 3: So if you can imagine what we've had the chance 42 00:02:22,267 --> 00:02:24,947 Speaker 3: to see out on our harbor here recently with with 43 00:02:25,027 --> 00:02:30,027 Speaker 3: SALGP and of course the America's Cup foiling. They're foiler assisted, 44 00:02:30,067 --> 00:02:32,187 Speaker 3: so they don't completely fly or not at least in 45 00:02:32,187 --> 00:02:35,587 Speaker 3: a very stable manner, which is kind of problematic, end 46 00:02:35,667 --> 00:02:37,747 Speaker 3: up doing these sort of quite dramatic hop skips and 47 00:02:37,787 --> 00:02:42,507 Speaker 3: jumps and of course big splashdowns. But these are wild, 48 00:02:42,707 --> 00:02:45,307 Speaker 3: wild boats. You know, you could if you can make 49 00:02:45,307 --> 00:02:48,547 Speaker 3: the parallel to you know, Formula one is definitely the 50 00:02:48,587 --> 00:02:51,387 Speaker 3: America's Cup. You know, these are fragile beasts that you know, 51 00:02:51,507 --> 00:02:54,267 Speaker 3: gets shammy down at the end of their race. Everybody 52 00:02:54,307 --> 00:02:56,267 Speaker 3: goes home and sleeps in nice comfy beds at the 53 00:02:56,307 --> 00:02:58,467 Speaker 3: end of the day. This is not that you know. 54 00:02:58,587 --> 00:03:01,547 Speaker 3: What I do is if we go to a parallel 55 00:03:01,547 --> 00:03:05,387 Speaker 3: with the Motorsport World it is a World Championship rally, 56 00:03:05,867 --> 00:03:09,227 Speaker 3: and so that is gritty, it is brutal. It goes 57 00:03:09,267 --> 00:03:14,267 Speaker 3: all day all night, you know, up up over mountain passes, 58 00:03:14,707 --> 00:03:16,747 Speaker 3: and so it's the same kind of thing. You know, 59 00:03:16,747 --> 00:03:19,147 Speaker 3: we don't have a big, big, short crew. It's the 60 00:03:19,187 --> 00:03:21,987 Speaker 3: sailors that fix the boats. You have to be incredibly 61 00:03:22,067 --> 00:03:25,787 Speaker 3: multi talented, to be able to fix the boat and 62 00:03:25,867 --> 00:03:28,307 Speaker 3: get your hands stuck into the electronics, keep a very 63 00:03:28,347 --> 00:03:31,587 Speaker 3: complicated racing machine alive in some of the most treacherous 64 00:03:31,587 --> 00:03:35,187 Speaker 3: and dangerous places on our globe, so most notably the 65 00:03:35,227 --> 00:03:38,307 Speaker 3: Southern Ocean, where I was just a couple of months ago. 66 00:03:38,827 --> 00:03:42,387 Speaker 3: And so it's incredibly exciting and challenging because you know, 67 00:03:42,467 --> 00:03:46,507 Speaker 3: one day it's never liked the other. And what I 68 00:03:46,507 --> 00:03:49,947 Speaker 3: am now super excited about is taking all of my 69 00:03:49,987 --> 00:03:52,787 Speaker 3: expertise that I've developed over the last fifteen years in 70 00:03:53,107 --> 00:03:56,867 Speaker 3: the French solo saving world and sharing that with Kiwi sailors. 71 00:03:57,267 --> 00:04:01,747 Speaker 3: Because I had to move to France, I didn't know anybody, 72 00:04:01,787 --> 00:04:05,627 Speaker 3: I didn't know the language, and I have created, you know, 73 00:04:05,787 --> 00:04:09,627 Speaker 3: my my life all over again in the sort of 74 00:04:09,747 --> 00:04:15,267 Speaker 3: little west westy wild corner of Brittany in France. And 75 00:04:15,307 --> 00:04:18,587 Speaker 3: I've been the first Kiwi to go and fully integrate 76 00:04:18,627 --> 00:04:21,907 Speaker 3: myself into the French Silian circuit. And so the barrier 77 00:04:21,947 --> 00:04:24,267 Speaker 3: to entry is just huge. You know, if you don't 78 00:04:24,307 --> 00:04:26,907 Speaker 3: know people, if you don't speak the language, then you 79 00:04:26,947 --> 00:04:29,027 Speaker 3: just don't have access to this kind of of sailing. 80 00:04:29,667 --> 00:04:32,027 Speaker 3: And I'm now in a position where I can open 81 00:04:32,027 --> 00:04:34,747 Speaker 3: the door as wide as possible, bring in the rest 82 00:04:34,827 --> 00:04:38,667 Speaker 3: of the country with us, and then get Kiwi sailors 83 00:04:38,867 --> 00:04:41,507 Speaker 3: both onto the boat, and then also technicians and members 84 00:04:41,507 --> 00:04:45,747 Speaker 3: of our marine industry into the team as riggers, as 85 00:04:45,787 --> 00:04:48,307 Speaker 3: boat builders and so on. And the goal is to 86 00:04:48,307 --> 00:04:50,987 Speaker 3: get the whole country on board with us as we 87 00:04:51,187 --> 00:04:53,387 Speaker 3: enter the Ocean race in twenty twenty seven. 88 00:04:53,507 --> 00:04:56,267 Speaker 2: Amazing, amazing. So how BIG's the crew and how have 89 00:04:56,307 --> 00:05:00,747 Speaker 2: you gone about assembling your crew? You've obviously started that. 90 00:05:00,947 --> 00:05:02,187 Speaker 2: What's the process behind that? 91 00:05:02,747 --> 00:05:04,707 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, again, the contrast with the wetbread back in 92 00:05:04,747 --> 00:05:07,627 Speaker 3: the day is pretty different. And you know, we used 93 00:05:07,667 --> 00:05:10,227 Speaker 3: to have these these huge boats like New Zealand Endeavor 94 00:05:10,547 --> 00:05:14,387 Speaker 3: that had sort of eighteen burly bearded, hairy, smelly dudes 95 00:05:14,427 --> 00:05:17,427 Speaker 3: on it. Now, you know, things have moved on a 96 00:05:17,507 --> 00:05:20,827 Speaker 3: fair bit. First of all, it's a mixed crew and 97 00:05:20,867 --> 00:05:23,987 Speaker 3: so women are on board and that is fantastic. It's 98 00:05:24,107 --> 00:05:29,787 Speaker 3: it's really good to have a boat both sexes involved 99 00:05:29,867 --> 00:05:32,227 Speaker 3: in a high performance team. It tends to mellow out 100 00:05:32,267 --> 00:05:37,507 Speaker 3: the crazy crazy sign and so yeah, so, so first 101 00:05:37,547 --> 00:05:39,587 Speaker 3: of all, that's really good. And then also the definition 102 00:05:39,627 --> 00:05:42,227 Speaker 3: of fully crewed has changed as well. And you know, 103 00:05:42,307 --> 00:05:45,467 Speaker 3: for the for the Auckland yachtes that go and do 104 00:05:45,547 --> 00:05:47,987 Speaker 3: the Coastal Classic and so on, you typically have sort 105 00:05:47,987 --> 00:05:51,667 Speaker 3: of ten people on a relatively small boat, maybe a 106 00:05:51,667 --> 00:05:54,707 Speaker 3: forty footer. We have a sixty footer and it's fully 107 00:05:54,707 --> 00:05:58,027 Speaker 3: crewed with only four sailors. And so that means that 108 00:05:58,107 --> 00:06:00,707 Speaker 3: each person has to have a number of strings to 109 00:06:00,747 --> 00:06:03,347 Speaker 3: their bow. You know, you can't have specialists. You know, 110 00:06:03,427 --> 00:06:06,307 Speaker 3: specialists are for insects. You know, humans are really good 111 00:06:06,547 --> 00:06:07,947 Speaker 3: doing a whole bunch of things and that's what we 112 00:06:08,027 --> 00:06:10,387 Speaker 3: have to do and the crew and so you can't 113 00:06:10,427 --> 00:06:12,827 Speaker 3: just have you know, don't want to get too technical, 114 00:06:12,867 --> 00:06:14,707 Speaker 3: but you can't just have a bowman or somebody who's 115 00:06:14,747 --> 00:06:17,627 Speaker 3: involved and just on pulling strings. Each person has to 116 00:06:17,667 --> 00:06:19,947 Speaker 3: have a global perspective as to what the routing or 117 00:06:19,987 --> 00:06:23,987 Speaker 3: the navigation is. I have to have somebody that's really 118 00:06:23,987 --> 00:06:25,707 Speaker 3: good at putting sales up on the front of the 119 00:06:25,707 --> 00:06:29,107 Speaker 3: boat when it's blown a wholly, and they also need 120 00:06:29,147 --> 00:06:30,267 Speaker 3: to be able to fix the boat if it goes 121 00:06:30,307 --> 00:06:31,187 Speaker 3: banging as well. 122 00:06:31,387 --> 00:06:31,667 Speaker 1: Wow. 123 00:06:31,827 --> 00:06:35,747 Speaker 2: Wow, multi talented people are the ones you're after. So 124 00:06:36,627 --> 00:06:41,107 Speaker 2: ocean racing itself I'm sure you get asked this a lot. Yeah, 125 00:06:41,147 --> 00:06:42,707 Speaker 2: what is the attraction for you? 126 00:06:44,307 --> 00:06:46,227 Speaker 3: It's not just getting splashed in the face for eighty 127 00:06:46,267 --> 00:06:49,787 Speaker 3: five days in a row. For me, and particularly with 128 00:06:49,907 --> 00:06:51,827 Speaker 3: the race that I just completed, the vondeg Globe, where 129 00:06:51,827 --> 00:06:56,387 Speaker 3: you do the solo, and the attraction is the fact 130 00:06:56,387 --> 00:07:01,627 Speaker 3: that it's multidisciplinary that both on land. I'm an entrepreneur, 131 00:07:01,707 --> 00:07:03,547 Speaker 3: so I have to run around and find sponsors and 132 00:07:03,627 --> 00:07:06,347 Speaker 3: make that connection with responsors. I do lots of speed 133 00:07:06,707 --> 00:07:10,867 Speaker 3: and engagements with my sponsors to activate the partnership within 134 00:07:10,947 --> 00:07:13,747 Speaker 3: their companies. And so, first of all, I provide value 135 00:07:13,787 --> 00:07:16,427 Speaker 3: to my sponsors and I have to go find them. 136 00:07:16,467 --> 00:07:18,307 Speaker 3: I run my own company. I do my own accounting, 137 00:07:18,867 --> 00:07:23,387 Speaker 3: often at two am. And then the actual sailing side 138 00:07:23,667 --> 00:07:26,467 Speaker 3: is well. I put together a technical team, and so 139 00:07:26,507 --> 00:07:31,827 Speaker 3: I'm a manager of a small company. I drive a 140 00:07:31,867 --> 00:07:37,067 Speaker 3: fantastically passionate group of really really skilled technicians on how 141 00:07:37,067 --> 00:07:39,227 Speaker 3: to prepare the boat in the most appropriate way. And 142 00:07:39,267 --> 00:07:42,387 Speaker 3: then when I'm actually out there by myself. It's it's 143 00:07:42,587 --> 00:07:45,947 Speaker 3: rare now in our modern era to be fully reliant 144 00:07:46,187 --> 00:07:49,947 Speaker 3: only upon yourself, and that is not only in competition, 145 00:07:50,027 --> 00:07:53,187 Speaker 3: but also in safety. You know that I've had medical training, 146 00:07:53,227 --> 00:07:55,987 Speaker 3: so I know how to do sutures, and when sailing 147 00:07:56,027 --> 00:08:00,147 Speaker 3: double handed, I once had to open a split you know, 148 00:08:00,267 --> 00:08:04,147 Speaker 3: close a split head somebody and you know, putting tens 149 00:08:04,667 --> 00:08:07,227 Speaker 3: ten stitches up his face to to sort them out again. 150 00:08:08,467 --> 00:08:11,587 Speaker 3: And and to be totally reliant upon myself in terms 151 00:08:11,587 --> 00:08:14,547 Speaker 3: of looking after myself, figuring out how to look after 152 00:08:14,587 --> 00:08:17,587 Speaker 3: the boat, all of the complicated systems on board, the navigation, 153 00:08:17,827 --> 00:08:20,667 Speaker 3: and finally there's the sort of actual sailing, the pulling 154 00:08:20,707 --> 00:08:24,747 Speaker 3: on the stringspit is actually a small minority of what 155 00:08:24,787 --> 00:08:27,707 Speaker 3: I actually get up to. And and so it's it's 156 00:08:27,747 --> 00:08:29,947 Speaker 3: this e collective mix which is really interesting and really 157 00:08:29,987 --> 00:08:34,787 Speaker 3: passionate and exciting. And then ultimately having that expertise in 158 00:08:34,827 --> 00:08:36,907 Speaker 3: the and creating that opportunity to get down to the 159 00:08:36,947 --> 00:08:39,667 Speaker 3: Southern Ocean, to be there with the Albatross by yourself, 160 00:08:40,067 --> 00:08:43,467 Speaker 3: and to be in control of this wildly powerful, crazy 161 00:08:43,547 --> 00:08:46,307 Speaker 3: machine and to feel at ease in the middle of 162 00:08:46,347 --> 00:08:50,067 Speaker 3: a storm is an incredibly powerful moment. You know, it's 163 00:08:50,267 --> 00:08:53,107 Speaker 3: it's it's a long journey that's got me there, But 164 00:08:53,267 --> 00:08:56,747 Speaker 3: to be in the Southern Ocean in a storm and 165 00:08:56,787 --> 00:08:58,587 Speaker 3: to be feeling good about it, and to be in 166 00:08:58,667 --> 00:09:03,227 Speaker 3: attack rather than survival mode. It's it's an incredibly addicting experience. 167 00:09:03,547 --> 00:09:05,867 Speaker 2: What can I just ask you a bit more about that. 168 00:09:05,867 --> 00:09:08,387 Speaker 2: I think we've all same footage of the Southern Ocean 169 00:09:08,587 --> 00:09:12,507 Speaker 2: and boat like yours in the Southern Ocean. Is it 170 00:09:12,587 --> 00:09:13,467 Speaker 2: in any way. 171 00:09:15,107 --> 00:09:20,347 Speaker 3: Scary? It can be, It really can be, and yet 172 00:09:20,387 --> 00:09:23,787 Speaker 3: I do it anyway. And so as I said, this 173 00:09:23,827 --> 00:09:26,707 Speaker 3: is a sixty foot boat eighteen meters long. It's one 174 00:09:26,747 --> 00:09:29,427 Speaker 3: of the fastest boats in the world. And you're trying to, 175 00:09:29,907 --> 00:09:31,387 Speaker 3: you know, be a jockey on the back of that 176 00:09:31,427 --> 00:09:36,067 Speaker 3: and you know, control the beast. And the way that 177 00:09:36,307 --> 00:09:38,307 Speaker 3: I talk about it is if I am in phase 178 00:09:38,347 --> 00:09:41,067 Speaker 3: with the boat, if I'm changing sales at the right time, 179 00:09:41,147 --> 00:09:43,507 Speaker 3: if I'm on top of the maintenance, if everything's going well, 180 00:09:43,787 --> 00:09:45,747 Speaker 3: then I feel like the boat is really small. You know, 181 00:09:45,867 --> 00:09:47,907 Speaker 3: it's almost like sailing a laser out in the bay. 182 00:09:47,987 --> 00:09:50,027 Speaker 3: You know, I can whack a GiB in anytime I want. 183 00:09:50,107 --> 00:09:56,027 Speaker 3: I'm on top of my of my program. But as 184 00:09:56,027 --> 00:09:58,387 Speaker 3: soon as something goes wrong, the boat gets real big, 185 00:09:58,547 --> 00:10:01,387 Speaker 3: real fast, and that's when you realize that, oh man, 186 00:10:01,427 --> 00:10:03,507 Speaker 3: I'm out here by myself. I've only got two hands. 187 00:10:03,547 --> 00:10:06,867 Speaker 3: I've only got, you know, relatively small, small amount of 188 00:10:06,867 --> 00:10:08,827 Speaker 3: power that I can bring to bring to beer hair. 189 00:10:09,907 --> 00:10:14,107 Speaker 3: And so that's why anticipating is so so crucial. Experience 190 00:10:14,187 --> 00:10:16,227 Speaker 3: is so so crucial. You know, I've got a few 191 00:10:16,267 --> 00:10:17,987 Speaker 3: gray hairs now, and I'm happy that those count for 192 00:10:18,027 --> 00:10:22,387 Speaker 3: something these days. So so yeah, so it comes down 193 00:10:22,427 --> 00:10:25,387 Speaker 3: to controlling the beast and staying on top of it 194 00:10:25,467 --> 00:10:29,267 Speaker 3: and anticipating. But ultimately, when you're fully locked in and 195 00:10:29,707 --> 00:10:34,067 Speaker 3: things are going really well, it's amazing to be cruising 196 00:10:34,107 --> 00:10:36,347 Speaker 3: through five hundred miles a day on a boat out 197 00:10:36,347 --> 00:10:38,667 Speaker 3: there by yourself. It's amazing, I'll bet. 198 00:10:38,787 --> 00:10:40,667 Speaker 2: And another feature of it, you completed the last two 199 00:10:40,747 --> 00:10:44,627 Speaker 2: vond globe campaigns without burning any fossil fuels at all. 200 00:10:44,747 --> 00:10:47,787 Speaker 2: So how strong is your commitment to decarbonization? 201 00:10:48,467 --> 00:10:52,707 Speaker 3: Rock solid? And just for those that are listening, Yeah, 202 00:10:52,707 --> 00:10:56,227 Speaker 3: it's a sailboat, but sailboats have lots of complicated systems 203 00:10:56,267 --> 00:10:59,987 Speaker 3: on board now, and so we have computers, we have 204 00:10:59,987 --> 00:11:04,947 Speaker 3: satellite communication systems, we have a very high tech autopaylot. 205 00:11:05,107 --> 00:11:07,107 Speaker 3: Because we don't actually drive the boat ourselves. We put 206 00:11:07,147 --> 00:11:09,467 Speaker 3: on the strings and trim the sails and do the 207 00:11:09,547 --> 00:11:11,067 Speaker 3: navigation and all the rest of it. But actually the 208 00:11:11,107 --> 00:11:13,147 Speaker 3: boat drives itself for ninety nine percent at the time, 209 00:11:13,867 --> 00:11:17,227 Speaker 3: and all of that takes energy, obviously, and so everybody 210 00:11:17,227 --> 00:11:20,147 Speaker 3: else in the race runs a diesel generator that charges 211 00:11:20,187 --> 00:11:22,267 Speaker 3: the batteries and they you know, fire up the old 212 00:11:22,307 --> 00:11:25,387 Speaker 3: donkey a couple of times a day. And I felt 213 00:11:25,427 --> 00:11:28,347 Speaker 3: like of all of the mechanical sports in the world, 214 00:11:28,467 --> 00:11:31,427 Speaker 3: we had the opportunity to really show how things can 215 00:11:31,587 --> 00:11:34,027 Speaker 3: how things can be and should be. You know, we're 216 00:11:34,027 --> 00:11:35,987 Speaker 3: pushed by the wind. I think we should be charged 217 00:11:35,987 --> 00:11:39,827 Speaker 3: by the sun. And so during the course of several 218 00:11:39,867 --> 00:11:42,507 Speaker 3: refits of the last couple of years, I completely covered 219 00:11:42,507 --> 00:11:47,467 Speaker 3: the boat in solar panels and then developed some small 220 00:11:47,827 --> 00:11:50,147 Speaker 3: we call them hydro generators, but they're basically turbines that 221 00:11:50,187 --> 00:11:51,987 Speaker 3: we can drop off the back of the boat and 222 00:11:52,027 --> 00:11:54,627 Speaker 3: then as the as the flow of the water rushes past, 223 00:11:54,627 --> 00:11:56,947 Speaker 3: and then that'll work like a dynamo on a bicycle 224 00:11:56,947 --> 00:11:59,267 Speaker 3: wheel and actually charge out of the batteries that way. 225 00:12:00,467 --> 00:12:02,227 Speaker 3: And so I was the first sailor to ever do that. 226 00:12:02,347 --> 00:12:07,707 Speaker 3: In twenty sixteen, so the last time that I did 227 00:12:07,747 --> 00:12:10,387 Speaker 3: the race, and then this time I doubled down on 228 00:12:10,427 --> 00:12:14,147 Speaker 3: that principle of again going zero missions with main energy, 229 00:12:14,187 --> 00:12:18,707 Speaker 3: but then also adopting suppliers that were in line with 230 00:12:18,787 --> 00:12:21,707 Speaker 3: my philosophies. And so I was the only sailor that 231 00:12:21,827 --> 00:12:26,267 Speaker 3: was fully equipped with sales that can be recycled. And 232 00:12:26,307 --> 00:12:29,507 Speaker 3: so normally sales are sort of linear. You know, they 233 00:12:29,507 --> 00:12:33,147 Speaker 3: get built somewhere in the world, shipped to you from 234 00:12:33,147 --> 00:12:35,667 Speaker 3: a long distance, and you put them, put them up. 235 00:12:35,707 --> 00:12:38,747 Speaker 3: They are really robust. They survived the riggers of the 236 00:12:38,787 --> 00:12:41,347 Speaker 3: Southern Ocean, and then when they can no longer serve 237 00:12:41,347 --> 00:12:42,987 Speaker 3: on the boat, you've been them. And so this is 238 00:12:43,027 --> 00:12:46,347 Speaker 3: a technology that allows you to recapture the value of 239 00:12:46,587 --> 00:12:49,307 Speaker 3: the resources that go into those sales, and so that 240 00:12:49,387 --> 00:12:51,667 Speaker 3: was really important to me. And then also the ropes 241 00:12:51,707 --> 00:12:55,267 Speaker 3: that I had on board were biosourced and so not 242 00:12:55,347 --> 00:12:59,267 Speaker 3: petrol based. And so basically, you know, if you think 243 00:12:59,267 --> 00:13:01,627 Speaker 3: about it in terms of emissions, we talk about scope one, 244 00:13:01,667 --> 00:13:04,867 Speaker 3: Scope two, Scope three, what we produce, what our suppliers produced, 245 00:13:04,867 --> 00:13:07,667 Speaker 3: and then what our customers produce. And so I was 246 00:13:08,987 --> 00:13:13,147 Speaker 3: I also drive electric delivery vans from Maxis. I've got 247 00:13:13,187 --> 00:13:15,547 Speaker 3: an electric bike and that I used to drop my 248 00:13:15,587 --> 00:13:18,547 Speaker 3: kids off at school, and so I've gone through all 249 00:13:18,587 --> 00:13:21,747 Speaker 3: of my actions, both on land and at sea, to 250 00:13:21,827 --> 00:13:25,947 Speaker 3: be as coherently possible to be totally invested in this 251 00:13:26,027 --> 00:13:28,867 Speaker 3: idea of being charged by the sun outstanding. 252 00:13:29,507 --> 00:13:30,867 Speaker 2: Have you thought about what it might be like to 253 00:13:30,947 --> 00:13:33,707 Speaker 2: lead the fleet into Auckland in March of twenty twenty seven. 254 00:13:33,907 --> 00:13:36,507 Speaker 3: To just saying that gives me goosebumps. You know that 255 00:13:37,947 --> 00:13:40,707 Speaker 3: I've had the incredible good fortune already in my career 256 00:13:40,747 --> 00:13:43,787 Speaker 3: to win a race around the world, and that included 257 00:13:44,347 --> 00:13:48,707 Speaker 3: winning a leg into Wellington, and that was an experience 258 00:13:48,707 --> 00:13:51,987 Speaker 3: that I held near and dear to my heart, and 259 00:13:52,867 --> 00:13:55,787 Speaker 3: just a dream of doing that into Auckland and sort 260 00:13:55,787 --> 00:13:58,507 Speaker 3: of living the same life from two perspectives. You know, 261 00:13:58,627 --> 00:14:01,947 Speaker 3: I was that sort of young boy in the eighties 262 00:14:01,947 --> 00:14:05,027 Speaker 3: and nineties with a goofy looking hat and you know, 263 00:14:05,147 --> 00:14:08,507 Speaker 3: out there walking around the Tabor looking at all the boats, 264 00:14:08,547 --> 00:14:10,747 Speaker 3: and you know, with stars in my eyes. And if 265 00:14:10,787 --> 00:14:14,347 Speaker 3: I have the opportunity in the next coming years to 266 00:14:14,387 --> 00:14:17,347 Speaker 3: be the you know, the hairy, smelly sailor on the 267 00:14:17,347 --> 00:14:19,867 Speaker 3: other side of that experience and then you know, look 268 00:14:19,947 --> 00:14:22,787 Speaker 3: up and inspire the next generation, then absolutely that's the goal. 269 00:14:23,027 --> 00:14:25,587 Speaker 2: Fantastic and to finish next steps. So here we are 270 00:14:26,187 --> 00:14:28,627 Speaker 2: in March of twenty twenty five. We get the feeling 271 00:14:28,627 --> 00:14:30,667 Speaker 2: it will roll around fairly quickly the start of twenty 272 00:14:30,667 --> 00:14:33,387 Speaker 2: twenty seven. I'm not saying there's a heap of time pressure, 273 00:14:33,387 --> 00:14:34,507 Speaker 2: but what are the next steps for you? 274 00:14:34,987 --> 00:14:37,667 Speaker 3: Well, the next steps are to fully launch our campaign, 275 00:14:37,987 --> 00:14:40,427 Speaker 3: and so we're doing that now. This is the start 276 00:14:40,547 --> 00:14:45,067 Speaker 3: of New Zealand's new national national sports team, so out 277 00:14:45,067 --> 00:14:47,867 Speaker 3: to out ocean racing. As I've said, we want everybody 278 00:14:47,867 --> 00:14:53,107 Speaker 3: to get on board and in many ways we're hoping 279 00:14:53,147 --> 00:14:56,667 Speaker 3: to make this more of a grassroots New Zealand based 280 00:14:56,707 --> 00:15:00,147 Speaker 3: campaign because the America's Cup has got so big and 281 00:15:00,187 --> 00:15:03,867 Speaker 3: that can't really maintain its connection with New Zealand from 282 00:15:03,907 --> 00:15:07,267 Speaker 3: what I've seen, and obviously when overseas and now we've 283 00:15:07,787 --> 00:15:10,667 Speaker 3: got the stop over locked in we are coming here. 284 00:15:10,867 --> 00:15:14,627 Speaker 3: We've got a strong connection with the New Zealand marine 285 00:15:14,627 --> 00:15:18,467 Speaker 3: industry and so where we're connecting not only to partners 286 00:15:19,147 --> 00:15:22,307 Speaker 3: that are in our sector, but also looking for partners 287 00:15:22,347 --> 00:15:25,587 Speaker 3: that can get involved and want to use our platform 288 00:15:25,707 --> 00:15:31,387 Speaker 3: to be visible overseas. So it's about, you know, creating 289 00:15:31,427 --> 00:15:33,867 Speaker 3: a coalition of people that are psyched to go ocean 290 00:15:33,947 --> 00:15:35,947 Speaker 3: racing and can see the power and the value of 291 00:15:35,947 --> 00:15:40,267 Speaker 3: this team. And so that includes corporate partners, that include sailors, 292 00:15:40,267 --> 00:15:45,227 Speaker 3: that can include technicians, and then concretely, hopefully that means 293 00:15:45,507 --> 00:15:48,867 Speaker 3: either building the boat or acquiring a high level existing 294 00:15:48,987 --> 00:15:52,147 Speaker 3: secondhand one. And then obviously that means getting sailors over 295 00:15:52,547 --> 00:15:54,827 Speaker 3: to France where our technical base is at the moment, 296 00:15:55,467 --> 00:15:58,907 Speaker 3: and starting to get qus on boats and go fast. Amazing. 297 00:15:59,187 --> 00:16:02,147 Speaker 2: Conrad has been energizing having you in the studio. I 298 00:16:02,227 --> 00:16:03,707 Speaker 2: must admit, yeah, I think you have that effect I 299 00:16:03,747 --> 00:16:06,187 Speaker 2: would imagine on most people you come into contact with. 300 00:16:06,347 --> 00:16:08,947 Speaker 2: What a project, what a what a time it is 301 00:16:08,987 --> 00:16:10,427 Speaker 2: ahead of you. Thanks for popping in. We'll get all 302 00:16:10,427 --> 00:16:12,667 Speaker 2: your details up on our socials so people can get 303 00:16:12,667 --> 00:16:14,187 Speaker 2: in touch if they want to. But thanks for stopping 304 00:16:14,227 --> 00:16:14,547 Speaker 2: in today. 305 00:16:14,587 --> 00:16:16,987 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. It's pleasure, good stuff, Conrad. 306 00:16:17,027 --> 00:16:21,587 Speaker 2: Conrad Coleman there who is heading up tier alto alter 307 00:16:22,027 --> 00:16:25,027 Speaker 2: I'll get it right. 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