1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Barry soapers here with politics. Hey Barry, good afternoon. Right, 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: so we've got a couple of politicians in hot Water 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: of sorts today and both speaking. 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: Yes, Hamish Campbell, who's the Island mp ilm MP. He 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: took over from Jerry Brownly. You know, he's a part 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: of a sect called I think it's called the Two's 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: or something two by two, and I mean he was 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: brought up clearly in this sect, and it's an association 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: more than a cultivated covered sect by the sound of things. 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: But they do have meetings in their houses and you know, 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 2: to suggest that he has something to do with what 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: they're being investigated for, that's some sexual offenses. You would, 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: you know, talk about drawing a long bow. I mean, 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: I was brought up a Roman Catholic, for goodness sake, 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: and you know there's plenty of transgressions in that church. 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: And to say that because I belonged to the church 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: that somehow was involved in that, I think is stretching 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: the bow far too far, and that's what's happened I 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 2: think in this case. Moving on to Benjamin Doylele he 20 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: of course goes by those pronouns they and them. He's 21 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: fronted up at Parliament today. He said that he in 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: fact was naive. He was told by the Greens to 23 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: take down the posts that have caused defense, but he 24 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: chose not to. And he said the term bussy, which 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: has been made a lot of meaning a man's or 26 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: not a man's an anus, He said it was a basicly, 27 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: was never said in a sexual context when it came 28 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: to him. It was simply a nickname that he had. 29 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: So they have just fronted up to the media and 30 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: they gave their view of how they've been treated here they. 31 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: Are I knew coming to Parliament that I would face 32 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: prejudice and homophobia. I knew that people would not like 33 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: the way I dress or speak, or the causes that 34 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: I advocate for. I knew that I would be under scrutiny, 35 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: as is appropriate for every single person that has the 36 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 3: privilege of this position. That I could never imagine or 37 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: prepare myself to be attacked in such a baseless, personal 38 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: and violent way, that my life and that of my 39 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 3: child would been threatened, That poisonous, transphobic hate and imported 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: culture wars would be leveled against me and my community. 41 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: Threats can't be countenanced. Anywhere. But I'm sorry, I think 42 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: he's been the author of his own misfortune by his naivety. 43 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: Yes, naivity maybe, But are these two cases not similar? 44 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: And that you've got you've got insinuations, haven't you of 45 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: untoward things and young people? You've got two MPs And 46 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: you've actually got no hard evidence either on either case. 47 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: So are we what are we doing here? 48 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: Well? You know this is the way politics is sort of, 49 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: you know, it's the press gallery chasing these people. 50 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: All right, Let's move on then, something more important. Wool 51 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: and having their day in the sun today. 52 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: Yes, indeed they It most certainly is and the wool 53 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: growers will be very happy about it. From July one, 54 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: government agencies and there are one hundred and thirty of them, 55 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: they'll be required to refurbish with wool. Now standing in 56 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: for the Minister of Agriculture Nikolair Gregg clearly got more 57 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: than she asked for and extalling the virtues of wall 58 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: in Parliament this afternoon. 59 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 4: Last year, the sector contributed a half a billion dollars 60 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: to the economy and this policy will help create jobs, 61 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 4: drive economic growth in our rural communities and encourage innovation 62 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 4: in our building material industry, and I note missed to 63 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 4: speaker how much you very much enjoy that the walls 64 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: of your office are currently covered in wool. Yeah, they 65 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: stinking supplement. 66 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 5: You expected. 67 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: Goodness? 68 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: Perhaps he needs them clean now. The Greens are tam 69 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: of the pool. She's come out swinging, hasn't she? 70 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: What you know that this pole that came out and 71 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: it doesn't turn up any surprises at all. Of course, 72 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: most people feel safe when they see the police, and 73 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: forty eight percent of Green voters indeed said that they 74 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: feel safe for the bigger presence of the police. And 75 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: Wonnington Central, of course, where she's the MP, sixty six 76 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: percent felt more safe with the police on the beat. 77 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 2: And in Auckland, and this is Chloe Swarbrick's electorate, sixty 78 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: two percent said that they felt more safe. So safety, 79 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: the safety felt by an overwhelming majority of keywis you'd 80 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: think would be enough for the Green MP time of 81 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: the pool to zip it on that front, but she 82 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 2: doubled down in Parliament and. 83 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 6: Is held by a rural malty who have been surveiled 84 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 6: and tormented and prized and raided by the New Zealand 85 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 6: police force. It is held by people who grew up 86 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 6: in neglected and poverished communities who live under the constant 87 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 6: suspicion and surveillance of the New Zealand police. And it 88 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 6: is shared by women who go to the police with 89 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 6: complaints of domestic and sexual violence, who are not believed 90 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 6: and not taken seriously until it is too late. That 91 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 6: is not a minority, a group of people that as 92 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 6: a group of people I am proud to represent, and 93 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 6: I don't care if I'm the only person in this 94 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 6: house with the balls to represent those communities. 95 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: Interesting, but look on the crackdown on gangs, those little 96 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: puppies removing their patches in the face and the like 97 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: doesn't rest well with her either. 98 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 5: The intentional, relational, methodical work that the police were doing 99 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 5: in communities alongside gang leaders. They have decided to throw 100 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 5: that out and say to police officers, we're not going 101 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 5: to increase your pay, but we will make you be 102 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 5: at war with people within your communities. 103 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: Poor little puppies. 104 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: The greens where the girls have balls apparently, well. 105 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: Maybe she's non binary. I'm not sure. 106 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't think that gives you balls. 107 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 3: What it gives you these days. 108 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: Very good. 109 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: News talks sen your little correspondent. 110 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 3: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 111 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 112 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: the podcast on iHeartRadio