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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate. Your local experts across residential,

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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news togs had been billing and welcome.

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Speaker 2: Today the chop has been for the fence, the Australian

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Speaker 2: Result and how Anti Trumpet reviews the parents portal coming

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Speaker 2: to a school near you. The PM does the sport

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Speaker 2: in the commentary box Richard Arnold see price on board

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Speaker 2: as well, PASKI as you went for Monday seven past six.

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Speaker 2: There seems some confusion around when it last happened, if

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Speaker 2: it ever has. In fact I was told Friday that

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Speaker 2: it was twenty eighteen. We last went six form eight

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Speaker 2: the commentator Saturday night and for me in the rain

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Speaker 2: in Brisbane that it had never happened ever. Either way,

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Speaker 2: what did happen is we won again. We beat the Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: which we were supposed to. But like a lot in

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Speaker 2: the Nral, it doesn't take a lot for the unexpected

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Speaker 2: to happen. And if you saw the game, a couple

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Speaker 2: of cowboy tries showed they can slice you apart fairly

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Speaker 2: fast and fairly readily. And yes the score looked a

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Speaker 2: little bit tighter, maybe than it should have been by

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Speaker 2: the end. But and here's the story, well, one of

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Speaker 2: two stories for the season. One, our defense is as

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Speaker 2: good as it gets. In two, we don't look flakely

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Speaker 2: flaky the way we sometimes used to. Also, we're still

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Speaker 2: missing a bunch of top flight players, and we still

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Speaker 2: look solid and aside with depth, and we're still winning.

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Speaker 2: I mean, have a look at the table. We're virtually first.

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Speaker 2: The conditions were shocking, yet the game didn't fall apart.

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Speaker 2: Metcalf came to the party. In terms of kicking, you

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Speaker 2: didn't get them all, and the ones he did have

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Speaker 2: were the easier variety. But kicking aside, he's the star

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Speaker 2: of the show of course these days. In fact, he's

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Speaker 2: so good when he doesn't kick. You wonder whether it's

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Speaker 2: a shame he does kick, and that distracts from what

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Speaker 2: he does the rest of the time. Anyway. The nights

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Speaker 2: are next, and the thing about being the top of

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Speaker 2: the table is every other side is below you. The

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Speaker 2: night's are tenth. Once we might have got a little

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Speaker 2: bit nervous about this, you know, when a lot and

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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden slip up. I don't get

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Speaker 2: that sense that this is going to happen. What I

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Speaker 2: see is a side that has come or is coming

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Speaker 2: of age. Now there's a resilience, a consistency there where

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Speaker 2: expectation weeken week out doesn't change. Great sides don't wabble

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Speaker 2: or have bad days or do inexplicable things. Still early

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Speaker 2: in the season, still only six of eight, but I mean,

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Speaker 2: you can only play one game at a time, and

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Speaker 2: as we see it each week now Vegas aside, this

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Speaker 2: looks exemplary, This looks like our this season, but this

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Speaker 2: looks like how are.

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Speaker 1: You news of the world in ninety second?

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Speaker 2: Now, most of all the votings that's gone on around

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Speaker 2: the world these past couple of days, perhaps the most

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Speaker 2: dramatic was in Britain where they had a reform quake,

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Speaker 2: But before we get to that, they also had some

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Speaker 2: antiterrra stuff that involved Iranians, a plot and a bunch

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Speaker 2: of wrists.

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Speaker 3: There are several hundred officers and staff working on this

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Speaker 3: investigation and will work very hard to ensure we understand

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Speaker 3: the threats to the wider public, and of course I

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Speaker 3: would ask the public to avoid speculation and some of

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Speaker 3: the things that are being posted online.

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Speaker 2: Others Blake watched it all unfold.

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Speaker 4: The kids were playing in the garden again and said

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Speaker 4: that a man with a mascot told them to get

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Speaker 4: back inside. So obviously it was a bit worried, who's

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Speaker 4: tying the kids, who's got a mask on telling the

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Speaker 4: kids to get inside. So as we've come out, we

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Speaker 4: just had a massive bank right.

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Speaker 2: The reform that they were on. Hundreds of seats, control

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Speaker 2: a lot of councils. They're going to kill work from home,

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Speaker 2: They're going to doge for savings. They're also going to

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Speaker 2: educate the kids proper.

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Speaker 5: Stop teaching young people in schools writ large that they

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Speaker 5: should hate their country, that they should be ashamed, and

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Speaker 5: looking at a character assassination that has taken place on

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Speaker 5: the great Sir Winston Church, look at it. Young people

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Speaker 5: should be taught history accurately.

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Speaker 2: The lobdoms also did very well, although a lot of

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Speaker 2: people think that's because of reform.

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Speaker 6: It was the Liberal Democrats the only party holding back reform,

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Speaker 6: and we did that all over the country. Actually, look

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Speaker 6: at County Durham where Labor and Conservati had a really

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Speaker 6: bad night. Liberal Democrats gain seats and we're now the

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Speaker 6: official opposition to reform there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, that's the leader of the party who

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Speaker 2: sees the party who it's the party of Middle England.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Labor got punished, but not as bad as the

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Speaker 2: Tories who now have to work out how seriously to

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Speaker 8: It's not yet clear whether at the next general election

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Speaker 8: will be reform or the Conservatives.

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Speaker 9: That are Labour's main challenges. But we've got to take

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Speaker 9: that threat seriously.

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Speaker 2: Well that's one Tory view. Here's another.

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Speaker 10: There's a reason why populist parties are popular is because

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Speaker 10: they offer everything to everybody. When they're in a position

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Speaker 10: of delivering things, that's when the shine comes up.

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Speaker 2: Finally, the Dubai chocolate record breaker. This is from Dubai

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Speaker 2: Duty Free. In their first quarter sales, they sold five

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five million US dollars. There's never a

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Speaker 2: billion dollars New Zealand of this. Dubai chocolate actually broke

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Speaker 2: the record. By the middle of February, the Dubai chocolate

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Speaker 2: bar sold over one point two million bars there as

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Speaker 2: new as the world in ninety jobs number out of

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Speaker 2: the states as good Andrew does the business on that

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Speaker 2: in the moment, but as far as the tariffs are

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Speaker 2: concerned Timu. If you want to buy anything from tim

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Speaker 2: directly from China to the States, you can't do it anymore.

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Speaker 2: They stop that over the weekend. This is the Dominimus stuff.

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Speaker 2: This is the small thing where they don't search the

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Speaker 2: envelopes at five four, two hundred dollars whatever. Anyway, if

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Speaker 2: you look at Timu from the States now to import

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Speaker 2: stuff from China, it'll be labeled as out of stock.

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Speaker 2: Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Relax. He's done on Interview Trump this morning. I will

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Speaker 2: quote be an eight year president. I will be a

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Speaker 2: two term president. I always thought that was very important,

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Speaker 2: despite previously saying he wasn't joking chasing a third and

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Speaker 2: pass from Jay my Well Pandrick Halla. Had very good

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Speaker 2: Monday morning.

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Speaker 9: Very good morning, Mike Year.

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Speaker 2: The jobs numbers, I think they were better than expected

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Speaker 2: to stay side, weren't.

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Speaker 9: They They were?

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Speaker 11: But before we start that, you know we finished last

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Speaker 11: week with feel good Friday, didn't we That did carry

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Speaker 11: over the weekend? Now I know you would have been

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Speaker 11: glued to the Warriors and the Miami GP.

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Speaker 9: But what else was on over the weekend?

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Speaker 2: How about that? Do you believe that he was I

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Speaker 2: assume we're talking about the same thing. Do you believe

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Speaker 2: that Abel was on stage not knowing?

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Speaker 9: Can you believe that?

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Speaker 11: So this is the Berkshire Halfway AGM and Warren Buffer

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Speaker 11: has stood down, but he announced it at the AGM

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Speaker 11: and he hadn't told the guy. That's absolutely brilliant. But

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Speaker 11: you can do that sort of stuff when you're ninety

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Speaker 11: four years old, can't you?

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Speaker 2: I reckon? And do you reckon? He really drinks all

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Speaker 2: that Coca cola or that's just a thing now.

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Speaker 11: Now I don't think he probably does. I mean, well,

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Speaker 11: if he isn't, he's been consistently lying about it for

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Speaker 11: about sixty years, so yes, I guess he does. Anyway, Anyway,

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Speaker 11: let's get onto non farm payrolls. So big news Friday,

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Speaker 11: non farm Praierl's lots of concern about the impact of

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Speaker 11: the policy blitz that we've seen from the Trump administration

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Speaker 11: in the first one hundred days. Also, there's a reason

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Speaker 11: why Trump can't do three terms because he'll be pope.

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Speaker 11: So how can you do three terms if he's pope anyway,

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Speaker 11: So got this policy blitz in the first hundred days.

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Speaker 11: Now the business consumer surveys, that's soft data. They're sending

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Speaker 11: warning signals. But we need to look at the hard

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Speaker 11: data as well, not just what people think. Now, non

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Speaker 11: farm payrolls is a piece of hard data. What's happening

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Speaker 11: in the laid mark and the key takeaway. If you

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Speaker 11: want to impress all your mates at work today, you've

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Speaker 11: just said it.

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Speaker 9: They were stronger than he expected.

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Speaker 11: So in April they added one hundred and seventy seven

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Speaker 11: hundred and thirty eight, so an easy beat there. The

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Speaker 11: previous month. Added quite a few jobs in healthcare fifty

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Speaker 11: have seen twenty six thousand jobs shared from the federal government.

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Speaker 11: Few comments might you are not seeing any sign yet

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Speaker 11: of a negative impact on the jobs market from trade

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Speaker 11: policy induced uncertainty. But as I said last week, you

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Speaker 11: have to be very careful I think about drawing any

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Speaker 11: in things like those those jobs. A lot of those

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Speaker 11: federal employees are on they're on furlough, I'll think of

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Speaker 11: what they call it. So we're not going to see

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Speaker 11: that in the numbers yet. Also, there was actually that

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Speaker 9: Now there is some speculation.

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Speaker 11: That that added a little bit to the labor force

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Speaker 11: because people had to work so in areas like transportation

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Speaker 9: Yet, keep let's keep an eye on all of this.

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Speaker 2: OK, what about the recovery.

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Speaker 11: On recovery on so non fine payer I was aware,

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Speaker 11: we see, but that's really just part of the bigger

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Speaker 11: picture of the whole of last week.

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Speaker 9: Yes, recovery continues.

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Speaker 11: US share market indexes are now setting records, Mike. Given

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Speaker 11: the headlines that you've been seeing, you wouldn't have thought

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Speaker 11: the records were positive ones. But the S and P

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Speaker 11: five hundred is on a winning streak. So April, Mike,

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Speaker 11: April share market performs that was just a bad dream.

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Speaker 9: Forget about that.

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Speaker 11: The S and P five hundred has now risen for

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Speaker 11: no consecutive days and as I said, the longest winning

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Speaker 11: streak in the last twenty years. So it's recovered all

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Speaker 11: the ground that we've seen since the infamous April the

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Speaker 11: second Rose Garden tarif announcement. So the end result, I

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Speaker 11: mean in April the S and P five hundred actually

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Speaker 11: fell zero point six eight percent to it barely move,

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Speaker 11: but just a heck of a round trip in the

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Speaker 11: background of fifteen percent fall and recovery in New Zealand

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Speaker 11: dollars though, Mike, you would have lost just over five

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Speaker 11: percent because there were big currency moves as well. Keys

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Speaker 11: gained in value that reduces the value of your offshore holdings,

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Speaker 11: but also feeding into this positive energy over the week.

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Speaker 11: And Mike, is there a thawing in the US China

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Speaker 11: trade stand off some cryptic comments out of China over

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Speaker 2: that over the weekend. Meantime, back here, elicit tobacco sales

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Speaker 2: you morning. Do you believe it?

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Speaker 13: No?

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Speaker 2: I don't, okay.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I think there is a problem with illegal tobacco,

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Speaker 2: So the report would be from tobacco. They want to

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Speaker 13: In fact, another Tobacco Industry Commission report just twenty twenty

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Speaker 13: We think it's probably somewhere between five and ten percent.

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Speaker 2: Okay? Is that bad? Is it getting worse?

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Speaker 13: There are going to be bursts of activity out there,

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Speaker 13: So I think it's it's quite hard to know from

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Speaker 13: Well, we're not making it up, and I think we're

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Speaker 2: Does anyone else monitor It's funny you should say that

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Speaker 13: Well, there's obviously good people on Facebook marketplace, but there

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Speaker 13: But they're doing it in other ways, and you know

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Speaker 13: continue to drive it down. It is coming down, and

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Speaker 13: as demand drops, so demand for illegal tobacco should drop.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Chris Presciut very much, Professor chriss Auckland University,

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Speaker 2: nineteen minutes away from seven Pasky William Skeets. By the way,

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Speaker 2: there's motor racing going on in the States of course

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Speaker 2: at the moment as well today. And Liam Skeits, who

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Speaker 2: deal whereby he's got a couple more races, one of

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Speaker 2: which was this weekend. He came sixth, so where I

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Speaker 2: think that's a good result and I think he'll be

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Speaker 2: pretty pleased with that. So hopefully the money continues to

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Speaker 2: flow out of all of that, and we wishing well

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Speaker 2: for the rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen to two The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast

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Speaker 2: EP Liam did okay till he didn't, was my summation

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Speaker 2: of the weekend. It looked all right until he got pinged.

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Speaker 2: Then his battery didn't work, and it's got that wading

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Speaker 2: through mud vibe. About it's supposed to reign in Miami.

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Speaker 2: I check the forecast. Supposed to reign in Miami. About

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Speaker 2: now should be dry for the start. He'll start fourteenth

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Speaker 2: or fifteenth, I can't remember. Kind of doesn't matter. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: he might work his way up to the top ten.

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Speaker 2: Let's hope he does. Gasly's in the pit. By the way,

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Speaker 2: that starting grid has been amended. They broke park firm,

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Speaker 2: so they're going to start him from the pit. He

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Speaker 2: was at the bake of the field anyway. So we'll

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Speaker 2: see what happens in about on our's time.

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Speaker 14: Six forty five International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance,

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Speaker 14: Peace of Mind for New Zealand business in the States.

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Speaker 2: Vers Monday Morning with the Donald or good morning to you, Hey,

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Speaker 2: my goodness. Now the Trump Interview, NBC said a lot

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Speaker 2: of interesting stuff.

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Speaker 15: Made a few headlines. Surprise Rise dealt with all the

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Speaker 15: contentious issues from the economy, to immigration and more. The

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Speaker 15: fate of the would be immigrants sent off to that

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Speaker 15: Salvador and torture prison is the lead item here because

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Speaker 15: those individuals were not given legal due process. Have they

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Speaker 15: even interviewed before they were put on the planes and

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Speaker 15: sent down there. This includes the Maryland man Nebrago Garcia,

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Speaker 15: and Trump was ridiculed the other day when he insisted

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Speaker 15: that Garcia was a gang member because he had the

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Speaker 15: gang letters the name of the gang MS thirteen tattooed

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Speaker 15: on his knuckles. You can see it in the photos,

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Speaker 15: said Trump, which led to endless jokes because what you

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Speaker 15: see in the photograph is photoshop printing of Ms one

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Speaker 15: to three on the page by someone the Trump team.

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Speaker 15: It's not on this man's body at all. Anyway, Trump

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Speaker 15: now is saying he does not know if he, as

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Speaker 15: the US president, needs to uphold the US Constitution when

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Speaker 15: it comes to legal due process. Reporter at Christen Welker

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Speaker 15: asking the question, don't you need to uphold the constitution

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Speaker 15: of the United States?

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Speaker 16: I don't know.

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Speaker 15: You know, when presidents are sworn in, that is the

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Speaker 15: oath that they take, they swear to uphold the United

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Speaker 15: States Constitution. But now, in response to this latest question,

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Speaker 15: he says, your Secretary of State says, everyone who's here,

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Speaker 15: citizens and non citizens, deserve to process.

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Speaker 17: Do you agree, mister, I don't know.

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Speaker 16: I'm not a lawyer.

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Speaker 15: I don't know.

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Speaker 16: Well, the Fifth Amendment, I don't know. It seems it

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Speaker 16: might say that, But if you're talking about that, then

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Speaker 16: we'd have to have a million or two million or

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Speaker 16: three million trials.

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Speaker 15: Well, on the tariff wars and the economy, Trump is

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Speaker 15: signaling his willingness maybe to lower China tariffs at some point,

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Speaker 15: and he says China is getting quite killed on the

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Speaker 15: trade front at the minute. As for the price hikes

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Speaker 15: that we're seeing, business trains, especially among what a small

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Speaker 15: business and consumer slumping the figures here, he was asked,

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Speaker 15: this is it okay in the short term to have processions.

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Speaker 16: Look, yes, everything's okay. What we are I said, this

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Speaker 16: is a transition period. I think we're going to do fantastically.

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Speaker 16: Are you worried about a recession? No?

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 15: Trump also repeated his thing about children not needing, say

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Speaker 15: thirty dollars of doys for Christmas or birthdays or whatever,

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Speaker 15: but only two or three. And the same he said

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Speaker 15: with children's strollers, where prices are going up, going up

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Speaker 15: a lot.

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Speaker 16: When I say strollers are going up, what kind of

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Speaker 16: a thing I'm saying that gasoline is going down? Gasoline

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Speaker 16: is thousands of times more important. There's strollers, some.

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Speaker 15: Po strollers, and it's baby strollers. Not a big issue

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Speaker 15: unless you know you're having a baby, which is what

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Speaker 15: they've been advocating on other concerns. Trump says he will

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Speaker 15: be an eight year president in total, dismiss's talk built

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Speaker 15: by himself of a potential third term. He fuelled this

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Speaker 15: just days ago, saying he was serious about it all

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Speaker 15: despite the twenty second Amendment of the Constitution barring any

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Speaker 15: third term.

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Speaker 16: This is not something I'm looking to do. I'm looking

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Speaker 16: to have four great years.

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Speaker 15: He also refused to rule out the possibility of military

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Speaker 15: action over Greenland, so that topic goes back again.

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Speaker 16: Something could happen with Greenland. I'll be honest. We need

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Speaker 16: that for a national and international security. Now I think

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Speaker 16: it's highly unlikely.

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Speaker 15: Well, he joked about this also just last week, and

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Speaker 15: now the Catholic Bishops of New yorker responding to his

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Speaker 15: comment he posted where he put up a picture of

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Speaker 15: himself on social media and on the White House website

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Speaker 15: dressed as the Pontiff as the Pope. Catholic Bishops of

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Speaker 15: New York are responding saying there's nothing funny or clever

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Speaker 15: about that. Image that was posted also on the President's

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Speaker 15: Instagram account. The Archbishop of New York, Cordinel Dolan, says

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Speaker 15: the image has made a quote bad impression. The comedy

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Speaker 15: show SNL also responded.

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Speaker 8: Last night, President Trump posted an AI generated an image

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Speaker 8: of himself as the Pope, apparently ordering a one way

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Speaker 8: ticket to Hell.

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Speaker 15: So far, Mike, though no official word from the Vatican,

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Speaker 15: we will.

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Speaker 2: See you Wednesday. Richard Arnold stateside by the way tomorrow

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Speaker 2: the met Gala, of course, the history of dandyism, black

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Speaker 2: style and the history of dandyism. It's Monday in May

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Speaker 2: for the met Gala. Omg of customs and the likes

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Speaker 2: can't stop large items like cigarettes coming into the country

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Speaker 2: in bulk. How can we have faith that they're going

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Speaker 2: to get on top of the drug import problem. Well,

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Speaker 2: it's a it's a wacka mole scenario that's largely driven

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Speaker 2: as far as I can work out by funding and resource, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I work on a large construction site in Auckland. Sixty

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Speaker 2: percent of workers on the site, orasion half of them smoke.

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Speaker 2: Not one of them would have New Zealand compliant cigarettes.

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Speaker 2: I don't smoke, but the lads might it works a

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Speaker 2: wei spend thirty five for one pack when you get

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Speaker 2: two packs for twenty eight to thirty or ten packs

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Speaker 2: one hundred s ten to seven.

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Speaker 1: togs head B.

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Speaker 2: Mike asked lux and how much overseas venture capital so far? Trump?

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Speaker 2: He's got eight trillion. No, he doesn't, the same way

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Speaker 2: he doesn't have millions of Americans with ty little screw up.

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Speaker 16: To close to eight trillion dollars.

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Speaker 7: I think I can say.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have millions of Americans with tiny little screwdrivers

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Speaker 2: for his iPhone either. He is looking to cut six

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Speaker 2: billion from NASA, shipped a billion of it to the

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Speaker 2: Mars missions. And he did sign and this is moderately serious.

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Speaker 2: He did sign an order over the weekend to cease

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Speaker 2: direct funding to the maximum extent allowable by law to

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Speaker 2: PBS public broadcasting as this NCPB, so the public broadcaster

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Speaker 2: is Radio Free Asia, who also get government funding. They

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Speaker 2: basically they shut down the news broadcast, let all their

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Speaker 2: staff go. Obviously, the lawyers are involved. Their argument, the

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Speaker 2: Trump argument funding of the news media is not only

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Speaker 2: outdated and unnecessary, but corrosive to the appearance of journalistic independence,

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Speaker 2: that the media landscape has become more diverse. That part

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Speaker 2: is true, but it nevertheless is very contentious. Mike, as

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Speaker 2: regards Lawson, have you lost interest? Not at all. I'm

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Speaker 2: feeling like a lot of Kiwis have is it our

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Speaker 2: KEII attitude of him not being at the top, So

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Speaker 2: we move on. It's not a bad question, but I

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Speaker 2: have not lost interest in There does come a point though,

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Speaker 2: when the excitement debates, which it has, because we're well

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Speaker 2: into the season and the performance needs to be delivered.

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Speaker 2: You need to see something. He's had some bad luck

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Speaker 2: and he's had a lack of performance. So what we

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Speaker 2: need to see now him maximizes car. He needs to

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Speaker 2: beat not only Sonoda. I note that some people are

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Speaker 2: still fixated with Sonoda Soda. As I've said a million times,

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Speaker 2: Sonda's not the story. Haja is the story. His teammate

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Speaker 2: is the story. Hadja will start further up the field

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Speaker 2: this morning, then laws and will and as long as

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Speaker 2: that continues, that's Lawson's problem. So at some point, so not,

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Speaker 2: I haven't lost interest at all. He just needs to

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Speaker 2: come to the party and start delivering five away from

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Speaker 2: seven all the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: The FEZ with business favor take your business productivity to

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Speaker 1: the next level.

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Speaker 2: We want to talk about sleep. We like sleep. Only

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Speaker 2: research tells us we like sleep, and the new research

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Speaker 2: comes from Samsung en Z, so they've looked into our habits.

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Speaker 2: Eighty seven percent of us say sleeps very important, no kidding.

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Speaker 2: Forty eight percent of the gen z Is say they

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Speaker 2: would trade a million dollars to be able to get

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Speaker 2: eight hours of uninterrupted sleep. I personally don't believe that.

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Speaker 2: So issues, We have issues, so many issues. So many

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Speaker 2: of us are angsty. Thirty percent feel anxious that you

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Speaker 2: don't get enough sleep, So you feel anxious, which leads

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Speaker 2: you to not getting sleep, and once you've had no sleep,

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Speaker 2: you even more anxious. Fifty three percent say it's stress

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Speaker 2: and anxiety. Sixty two percent. Lack of sleep causes arguments

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Speaker 2: with the old missus or the mister twenty eight percent,

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Speaker 2: so that causes arguments with work colleagues as well. Despite

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Speaker 2: the importance that we place on the sleep, only a

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Speaker 2: quarter of us get the recommended eight hours a night.

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Speaker 2: I'm not actually convinced the eight hours that they say

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Speaker 2: seven seven to eight sixty eight percent, so they don't

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Speaker 2: track their sleep. Of those that do, they use things

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Speaker 2: like night masks, routines, lavender pillows, sprays, sleep barms. Fifty

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Speaker 2: eight percent say scrolling on social media is the biggest

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Speaker 2: disruptor to their evening routine, and yet they still do it.

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Speaker 2: They say what, I say, what's that? And they go,

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Speaker 2: it's doom scrolling. I'm doom scrolling. I see doom scrolling?

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Speaker 9: Are you?

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Speaker 2: And even is that bad for you? Yes? It is,

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Speaker 2: But seventy two percent of them still do it anyway.

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Speaker 2: Forty three percent say their partner, kids or pets keep

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Speaker 2: them up.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, it seems to be a lot of blame going

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Speaker 18: towards the partner's are in minutes.

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Speaker 2: My solution, and I have one because I'm all about

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Speaker 2: the good news, is get yourself a breakfas show. And

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Speaker 2: when you get yourself a breakfas show, one of the

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Speaker 2: things that happens is you get up at two thirty

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Speaker 2: in the morning. And one of the things about getting

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Speaker 2: up at two thirty in the morning is you are

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Speaker 2: basically permanently buget and you sleep extremely well, or you are,

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Speaker 2: as my wife so eloquently puts it, Haggard, So you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't have any sleep problems because I'm shagged. Wayne

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Speaker 2: Map former Defense Minister, this, do the helicopters seem expensive

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Speaker 2: to you? Two billion dollars helicopters said, we need some

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Speaker 2: explanation on this. That's after the news, which is next.

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Speaker 1: News, opinion and everything in between. The Mike Hoskey break

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Speaker 1: best with the range rover Villa designed to intrigue and

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Speaker 1: use Togsdad bs.

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Speaker 2: On seven past seven some more detail on the new

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Speaker 2: defense spend. It's twelve billion all up night, of which

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Speaker 2: is new money yesterday. Two billion of that is going

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Speaker 2: to be spent on choppers and deployment. When former Defense

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Speaker 2: minister with us very good morning to you, good morning

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Speaker 2: money as side this smart spending.

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Speaker 17: Yes, it is the existing helicopters. About fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 17: They were bought real cheap from the Australians. I managed

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Speaker 17: that and frankly they've done well to do fifteen years.

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Speaker 2: Do explain unless I got the misreportage. Two billion dollars

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Speaker 2: for five choppers sounds like a lot per chopper.

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Speaker 17: Yes, that would be, and I think it might be

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Speaker 17: a bit less than two billion. The Minister Collins is

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Speaker 17: quite clear. About five helicopters, well, that would be less

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Speaker 17: than two billion, even taking into account spares, simulators, etc.

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Speaker 17: The Spanish bought eight of these helicopters. They'll almost certainly

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Speaker 17: be American Seahawks. That make sense. The Assie said the

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Speaker 17: same thing for nine hundred and fifty million in US

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Speaker 17: and that'll be a complete package. So we might be

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Speaker 17: seeming significantly less than two billion.

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Speaker 2: Okay. The deployment part in the role of the military.

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Speaker 2: Is this moving in the right.

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Speaker 17: Direction, Yes it is. I mean we've struggled to get

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Speaker 17: proper deployments, particularly the Navy, although they're doing more of

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Speaker 17: that now, and part of that is, of course making

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Speaker 17: sure recruitment retention is up. We've had problems around that

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Speaker 17: as well, so the government is making the essential steps. Frankly,

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Speaker 17: the Defense Force has been running down for a little

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Speaker 17: bit in terms of recruitment and retention essentially, so that's

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Speaker 17: having to be bolstered up. And that's a fair chunk

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Speaker 17: of the twelve billion.

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Speaker 2: Does retention solve itself? If you're joining somewhere that's got

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Speaker 2: new kit, does that make you want to join more?

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Speaker 17: Yes? It does. I know that from my own experience

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Speaker 17: you know, you sort of if you go a young person,

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Speaker 17: you go in the military and everything's like sixty years old,

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Speaker 17: you think you're right. We looked second radio. If everything's

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Speaker 17: kind of knew, you think knew we were right in

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Speaker 17: the game.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, All right, one appreciate the update. Prime Minister Chris

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Speaker 2: Luckson's in the studio with us very shortly. It's nine

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Speaker 2: minutes past seven. The past major weekend of democracy, from

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Speaker 2: the local vote in the UK of course, to Singapore

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Speaker 2: and of course Australia, where the government fired expectations to

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Speaker 2: some degree at least by not just winning but storming

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Speaker 2: home in and doing so, not just getting a second term,

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Speaker 2: but decimating the opposition who now have to not just

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Speaker 2: pick up the pieces but find themselves a new leader.

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Speaker 2: It's Goy News Australia's Laura Jays is back with this' Laura,

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you.

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Speaker 19: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Thoroughly enjoyed the coverage on Saturday night. The majority, I

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Speaker 2: think the majority was a chance, but so was a minority.

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Speaker 2: How big a shock was what actually happened?

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Speaker 19: Well, none of the polls picked up not even the

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Speaker 19: internal polling of the Labor Party picked it up sort

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Speaker 19: of a shock to everyone. I mean, the best case

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Speaker 19: scenario going in were kind of talking about Labor having

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Speaker 19: high seventies. A good night for Labor going in was

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Speaker 19: going to be eighty seats and the Liverpool Party was

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Speaker 19: still talking about picking up somewhere between five and ten.

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Speaker 2: And look where we're at exactly the Greens I note

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Speaker 2: this morning have won. Is that about as good as

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Speaker 2: because yesterday they had none? Is one as good as

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Speaker 2: it gets?

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Speaker 20: Yeah?

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Speaker 19: One is probably as good as it gets. I mean

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Speaker 19: it's interesting because that have increased their primary votes slightly,

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Speaker 19: but that's not how our parliamentary system works, so it's

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Speaker 19: not the rules.

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Speaker 16: Of the game.

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Speaker 19: So I mean one, I mean, if Adam Band was

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Speaker 19: to lose his seat, Labor would see that as well.

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Speaker 19: The whole Parliament would see that as a big win,

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Speaker 19: I think. But that one Max Chandell may them so

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Speaker 19: that he's the Green that's lost his seat. He held

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Speaker 19: that by ten point five percent in Queensland in Griffith

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Speaker 19: and that was Kevin Rudzold's seat, so that was a

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Speaker 19: real grudge match for Anthony Alberezi, so to get that

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Speaker 19: back was pretty sweet for him.

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Speaker 2: I run through the names Angus Taylor, Andrew Hasty, Dan

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Speaker 2: t and Susan Lay. Are these obvious names to replace?

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Speaker 2: Dun't know.

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Speaker 19: We just don't know, I mean the most obvious. But

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Speaker 19: the hard truth for the Liberal Party is you look

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Speaker 19: at those names and they don't scream leader, none of

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Speaker 19: them do. The fact that they have to turn their

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Speaker 19: attention to one of those four names is really an

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Speaker 19: indictment on the party and where they're at right now.

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Speaker 19: I mean, Angus Taylor is a good performer, he's the

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Speaker 19: Shadow Treasurer, but he's tied to Peter Dutton and this

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Speaker 19: loss Labor Party. People saying to me all throughout the campaign,

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Speaker 19: you only ever get one Angus Taylor, and that was

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Speaker 19: said in a disparaging way. Susan Lay, I mean she's

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Speaker 19: had to say from pre selection three times she's the

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Speaker 19: woman in the mix. But honestly, I don't think that

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Speaker 19: would be a good direction for the Liberal Party to go.

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Speaker 19: Andrew Hasty such an impressive young person. I mean, he's

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Speaker 19: from an SAS soldier. He's brilliant, but he has not

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Speaker 19: been in there fighting for the Liberal Party in a

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Speaker 19: political sense. There's a view that he's tried to keep

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Speaker 19: his powder dry and he holds a w on his seat.

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Speaker 19: I mean, with the decimation on the East coast, can

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Speaker 19: you really go with a WA leader? And that leads

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Speaker 19: you with Dante, and he's really a nice guy, really impressive.

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Speaker 19: He's had to fight off this independent in his seat

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Speaker 19: of one on the outer edges of Melbourne, so I

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Speaker 19: think he's probably he would be my pick. But I

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Speaker 19: think any leader that you're going to get in the

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Speaker 19: Liberal Party now is just an intraim leader. They're not

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Speaker 19: going to be there to fight the next election. They

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Speaker 19: need to really dig in, find some talent and start

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Speaker 19: pre selecting some good people. The problem is they can't find.

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Speaker 20: Young peop people or women to vote.

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Speaker 19: For them, or run for them or over join the party.

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Speaker 2: What risk he did so well elbow other side of

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Speaker 2: the fence that it all goes to his head and

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Speaker 2: their head and they blow.

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Speaker 19: It, absolutely mate. I mean, that's the biggest risk in it.

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Speaker 19: We saw that with John Howard and worked choices we

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Speaker 19: had control of the House and the Senate. Now that's

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Speaker 19: not the same scenario here. But hubris is always always big,

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Speaker 19: big risk here, and there is a chance that the

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Speaker 19: labor parties try to over it. I mean, I asked

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Speaker 19: Sally said about this yesterday. A strong government is when

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Speaker 19: you have a strong opposition or we don't have that.

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Speaker 19: We don't have a strong opposition. We have a very

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Speaker 19: strong cross bench in the Teals though, so I think

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Speaker 19: the Teals need to step up play a bigger role

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Speaker 19: even though they don't have the balance of power. I mean,

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Speaker 19: there's things like negative gearing. We know that labor in

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Speaker 19: their hard and hearts want to touch it at out

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Speaker 19: without a mandate. I think it would be poisonous, but

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Speaker 19: you know, they might just try it, but we will see.

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Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, Laura, I appreciate getting up in the

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Speaker 2: early hours of the morning, Laura. Jay's out of sky

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Speaker 2: news for us this morning, fourteen past seven, tasking Mike,

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Speaker 2: Ever since I cut sugar and carbs, very very good

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Speaker 2: point this, Ever since I cut sugar and carbs out

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Speaker 2: of my diet, I'm on keito, I've been sleeping like

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Speaker 2: a rocket. Very true. There's a lot of disruptors. Sugar

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Speaker 2: is one of the malcohols. Another which essentially is sugar.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Mike Lawson's only one point three six seconds

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Speaker 2: behind some of the fastest the if one drivers on

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Speaker 2: the planet. People need to remember he's a rookie with

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Speaker 2: a lot to learn. True, but your number is either

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Speaker 2: a good insight or a lack of understanding. One point

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Speaker 2: three six seconds may as well be a week. One

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Speaker 2: point three sixty seven is going around the track so

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Speaker 2: often you're lapped and so in that it's that race

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Speaker 2: or the sport is decided in tenths, if not one hundredths,

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Speaker 2: nothing like one point three six fourteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: At b PM in the studio shortly seven past seven.

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Speaker 2: New tool for schools. We have a parent portal which

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Speaker 2: presumably dovetails with the local schools portal. It will have

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Speaker 2: lessened summaries for each year, group videos, tools to help

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Speaker 2: students learn at home. Secondary Principal's Association President Born Coyo

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Speaker 2: is back with us one morning, Good morning, how are

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Speaker 2: you well? Are we on the right track here?

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Speaker 20: Look, any opportunity to involve parents and farno in learning

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Speaker 20: is a good opportunity because we know that kids learn

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Speaker 20: better when their families know what's going on at school.

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Speaker 2: Does any well, does it take anything that an active

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Speaker 2: parent wouldn't already do.

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Speaker 20: Probably not. It just curates it into an easier to

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Speaker 20: find space, so you know, you can you can go

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Speaker 20: and look up past tommosis and activity exams on Enzika's website.

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Speaker 20: On the portal, you can just click in one place.

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Speaker 20: So it's more of a curation of stuff than necessarily

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Speaker 20: creating new resources. However, when you're talking about the curriculum refresh,

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Speaker 20: that is a new piece of so all of that

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Speaker 20: stuff by default will be new resource.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed it well does it dovetail and specifically with

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Speaker 2: what any given school is doing or would you need

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Speaker 2: to leap between portals and talk to teachers and stuff

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 20: At this stage, there's not that interconnectivity. It is a

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Speaker 20: resource about what's going on in the curriculum refresh and

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Speaker 20: structured Literacy, Structured Numeracy and the Literacy Numeracy CORECUID its MZQA.

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Speaker 20: It's not a two way click communication tool between schools

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Speaker 20: and the ministry resources.

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Speaker 2: Okay, out of ten, I know this is a simple question.

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Speaker 2: Ten being brilliant, one being a disaster. We are we

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Speaker 2: getting a pass mark here?

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Speaker 20: Ah, It's definitely between seven and ten. At the minute.

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Speaker 20: It's a good idea. It's not fully populated at this

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Speaker 20: point because it's still just been released before all the

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Speaker 20: resources are there, so it'll hopefully get better over time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, appreciate it very much, bon Cooyo, who's the Secondary

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Speaker 2: Principal's Association President, Mike. The very first box of political

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Speaker 2: leader needs to tick is charisma. Dunton has zero and

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Speaker 2: was a terrible candidate. Australia will suffer all the woke

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Speaker 2: garbage that came with the Left of the next three years.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the more fascinating, as I said earlier

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Speaker 2: in the program, the most election by a mile, and

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Speaker 2: I will come back to it in the next half

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Speaker 2: hour was the British one. But what was interesting for

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Speaker 2: me in Australia was not just the size of the wind,

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Speaker 2: because it was very comprehensive went although to be fair,

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Speaker 2: in terms of percentages of the vote, Labor didn't actually

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Speaker 2: do that well and the Coalition didn't do that badly.

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Speaker 2: It's just where the votes landed. Seat wise, it came

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Speaker 2: home very much like Labor in Britain, as a percentage

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Speaker 2: of the vote in the last general election got less

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Speaker 2: support than they did the time before, and yet this

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Speaker 2: time they won by a mile. Last time they lost

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Speaker 2: by a mile. So it's the vagary of the system.

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Speaker 2: But at no point did Australia embrace Elbansi or the

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Speaker 2: Labor government. At no point did they go these guys

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Speaker 2: are running the show like I've never seen I love

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Speaker 2: Health twenty four. I was very sad excuse me to

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Speaker 2: hear of the passing of Bob Jones, Sir Robert Jones.

901
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Speaker 2: The last contact I had with him, I think was

902
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Speaker 2: last year when he sent me a copy of his

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Speaker 2: latest book. They always came with a personal note. When

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Speaker 2: I say personal, a letter came with a letter. He

905
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: would have dictated the letter and had it typed up,

906
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: and he signed it himself. He was from a different

907
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Speaker 2: era of sorts. I never received an email from Bob

908
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Speaker 2: only letters. Last time I dealt with him in person

909
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Speaker 2: was in his office in Wellington, overlooking the harbor. That

910
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 2: too was from an era beautifully set up as you

911
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Speaker 2: can imagine, but in a time and place kind of way,

912
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: a lot of paneling, a lot of staff. His office

913
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Speaker 2: was large on the corner. Of course, he smoked. That

914
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Speaker 2: became a thing in the Helen Clark days, by the way,

915
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Speaker 2: when she was busy making rules around smoking indoors. Bob

916
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Speaker 2: was having none of that, because his office he was

917
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Speaker 2: the boss, if not the king. So last time I

918
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 2: was in his office, we had wine and we sat

919
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Speaker 2: amongst this whilling tobacco smoke coming out of his pipe.

920
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Speaker 2: The artwork was worth the trip alone. He had one

921
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Speaker 2: fantastic taste and two a fantastic collection. He also had

922
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Speaker 2: one of the best brains you'll ever encounter. What was

923
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Speaker 2: often lost, actually by many, in the barrage of cantankerous Voobiage,

924
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Speaker 2: was the amount of knowledge and wisdom he had gleaned

925
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Speaker 2: from a lifetime of reading and travel. There wasn't a

926
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Speaker 2: place he hadn't been. He had more stories than you

927
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Speaker 2: ever had time to hear, and he had well or time,

928
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Speaker 2: but he had time to tell you small irony are noted.

929
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Speaker 2: On Friday night when I watched the television. In their coverage,

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Speaker 2: they made much of the Rod Vaughn helicopter encounter, the

931
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: irony being no one these days hires a chopper to

932
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Speaker 2: go looking for a fisherman. TV three reflected the modern malaism,

933
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: afraid to say his passing was the second story behind

934
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Speaker 2: the weather, even though the weather was the day before

935
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: his news That showed a lack of understanding of who

936
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Speaker 2: Jones was and what he contributed to the country. That's

937
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Speaker 2: the problem with modern newsrooms these days. The institutional knowledge

938
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Speaker 2: has largely left the building. From business to politics to

939
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Speaker 2: public discourse, Jones was an invaluable addition to the national psyche.

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Speaker 2: I'm afraid, bold, brilliant with the language, and fantastically funny

941
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Speaker 2: because he was fantastically a reverend, even when a reverence

942
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Speaker 2: was wildly more tolerated than it is these days. It

943
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Speaker 2: was a great life and he was a great man.

944
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Speaker 2: Asking Mike, why the hell do you get up at

945
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Speaker 2: two thirty when you start at six ten minutes shower,

946
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Speaker 2: ten minute, bricky bricky hah, half an hour to get

947
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Speaker 2: to work. Surely no one's on the road at that time.

948
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Speaker 2: You correctly, they're not drive to work at three point thirty,

949
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Speaker 2: sit there for two and a half hours. Please explain.

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Speaker 18: There's a lot of good questions there.

951
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Speaker 2: Hi, Mike, Can I ask if your show doesn't start

952
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Speaker 2: until five point thirty, why do you have to get

953
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Speaker 2: up at two thirty? No, it's such a good question,

954
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Speaker 2: not such a good question. This show doesn't start at

955
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Speaker 2: five thirty. When did it start at five thirty? Glenn?

956
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Speaker 18: Ummm, well no, September eleven, two thousand and one.

957
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: It did that day five thirty start? Yeah, so on

958
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Speaker 2: that one day. Yeah, just the one day and one

959
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Speaker 2: day alone. Apart from that, it's never started at five

960
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Speaker 2: point thirty. But you never know, do you? You don't.

961
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Speaker 2: I don't know whether to laugh, to see your question

962
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: as cynical slash humorous, to call you a moronic idiot,

963
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Speaker 2: or just to sit here and weep. But I shall

964
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Speaker 2: come back to bed after the news, which is upon

965
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Speaker 2: us by people who arrived about thirty seconds before the

966
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Speaker 2: bulls actually started. The Prime Minister is.

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Speaker 1: Next New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, The

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate. Your local experts

969
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Speaker 1: across residential, commercial, and rural news. Togs had been twenty.

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Speaker 2: Three minutes away from eight serving a Monday Departments us

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Speaker 2: in the studio. Good to see you, and I believe

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Speaker 2: Parliament's back this week.

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Speaker 21: In my cornala man, you'll be pleasing those three weeks

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Speaker 21: citting you're going to deliver a budget over thateriod of times.

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Speaker 2: But isn't it great We're back at work. I'm so

976
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Speaker 2: pleased here at a couple of a couple of things. First,

977
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Speaker 2: have you talked well? But yes I did.

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Speaker 21: I had a great chat with him yesterday morning. The

979
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Speaker 21: voice was very hoarse. I think he's probably still in

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Speaker 21: his pajamas, but he was obviously feeling pretty good after

981
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Speaker 21: a pretty emphatic win.

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Speaker 9: As you saw you.

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Speaker 2: Despite the ideological different size, Hume's business as usual and

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Speaker 2: we get on well.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, it's really interesting. Actually, even though we're different political parties,

986
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Speaker 21: I guess the center might be slightly different in both countries.

987
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Speaker 21: But actually, you know, Key got on very well with Gillard,

988
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Speaker 21: and actually that some of the best collaborations at a

989
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Speaker 21: personal level have been from leaders and different parties. Albanezi

990
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Speaker 21: I knew before I came to politics. And so yeah,

991
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Speaker 21: we've got a great friendship.

992
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Speaker 2: Actually, did you know Dutton.

993
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Speaker 21: I knew him a little bit. I met with him

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Speaker 21: a couple of times here in New Zealand, and I'd

995
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Speaker 21: sort of talked to him a few times when I

996
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Speaker 21: was over in Australia as well, So, you know, really

997
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Speaker 21: decent individual.

998
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Speaker 2: I thought.

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Speaker 21: I sent him a text and spoke to him as

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Speaker 21: well and just said, I thought you gave a very

1001
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Speaker 21: classy concession speech, you know, pretty difficult when he got

1002
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Speaker 21: a result like he got, and wished him well for

1003
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Speaker 21: the future.

1004
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Speaker 2: So we appreciated that what do you make of the world?

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00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: So much is being made of you? You go and

1006
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Speaker 2: I know you, yeah, commented not yesterday, you go to

1007
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: stability and what you know? And yet in Britain they didn't. Yeah,

1008
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Speaker 2: they tipped it on its head. So is the world

1009
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Speaker 2: really moving to what we know? Or is I think

1010
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 2: the results I looked out.

1011
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Speaker 21: I spoke to Mark Carney yesterday as well in Canada,

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Speaker 21: and also spoke with Lawrence Wong, the Singapore Prime minister

1013
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Speaker 21: as well. Different political system, but actually he lifted his

1014
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Speaker 21: result in the popular vote, which was good. And then

1015
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Speaker 21: obviously Anthony in Australia, and I think those three elections,

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Speaker 21: to say to you, people are acknowledging and I see it.

1017
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Speaker 21: People are anxious about what's going on in the world

1018
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Speaker 21: at the moment. We've also got coming through difficult times

1019
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 21: with inflation and all of that stuff, and they want

1020
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Speaker 21: strong economic management at uncertain times, you know, And that's

1021
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Speaker 21: what you know, our government's been pretty relentlessly focused on

1022
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Speaker 21: from day one because that's the thing that matters most

1023
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Speaker 21: to New Islanders. And when you start talking about other

1024
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Speaker 21: stuff other than that, that's not what they're interested in,

1025
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Speaker 21: because they want you there to fix the problems that

1026
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Speaker 21: they're experiencing.

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Speaker 2: David Tamore says we got too many ministers.

1028
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Speaker 21: Well, nah, I think I think actually it's about delivery

1029
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Speaker 21: of that public service and so I'm very comfortable with

1030
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Speaker 21: what the setup is, but I'm uncomfortable with the performance

1031
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 21: we're getting out of the public service and I want more.

1032
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Speaker 21: And so for me, it's not about the number of ministers.

1033
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Speaker 21: It's actually about the size of the ministries that are

1034
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Speaker 21: supporting those ministers, and more importantly, the effectiveness of them.

1035
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Speaker 21: You know, As I've said to you before, I think

1036
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Speaker 21: we're making some good progress with We talk the language

1037
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Speaker 21: of outcomes and results, and I meet with the sees

1038
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Speaker 21: of the public service. We've obviously made quite a few

1039
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 21: changes in personnel and staff and that's making a big

1040
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Speaker 21: difference when you get the right leader on the right department.

1041
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Speaker 21: You know, think about what's happened at Housing New Zealand

1042
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 21: with Simon Motor and others. That's been really positive. So

1043
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Speaker 21: now I think at the moment interesting intellectual idea. Yep,

1044
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Speaker 21: you look at that down the road, but for right now,

1045
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 21: we need delivery out of the public service.

1046
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Speaker 2: MB have nineteen reporting lines to ministers. I mean, that's nuts.

1047
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Speaker 2: Is that too many ministers or is that what you're

1048
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 2: arguing the department?

1049
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Speaker 21: I think you know, if you look at MB, there's

1050
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Speaker 21: been a massive growth in FT people in that department.

1051
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Speaker 21: There's been a lot of a lot of growth in

1052
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Speaker 21: some of the public service. We've just got to keep

1053
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Speaker 21: pruning that back and also getting it very very focused.

1054
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Speaker 21: I've tried to simplify by having ministers that have clusters

1055
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Speaker 21: of like sort of activities or portfolios around them to

1056
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Speaker 21: make better sense. There's more coherency to it. But there's

1057
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Speaker 21: things that we could continue to do to improve the

1058
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Speaker 21: public service and the wiring of which units go everywhere.

1059
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Speaker 21: But to be honest, do I want to spend the

1060
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Speaker 21: next twelve months radically restructuring the public service and actually

1061
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Speaker 21: not delivering improved outcomes. I want the outcomes and the

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Speaker 21: efficiencies and the the other thing i'd say, Mike on

1063
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Speaker 21: the public services. I think the big opportunity is in technology.

1064
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Speaker 21: I think if we could digitize government where you as

1065
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Speaker 21: a customer dealing with the government, and you are a

1066
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Speaker 21: customer actually could use technology in a way, you would

1067
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Speaker 21: simplify the back end of it really well. And if

1068
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Speaker 21: you look at what's happened in places like a Stoneia

1069
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Speaker 21: in Singapore and the UAE, you know, they know your Mike,

1070
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Speaker 21: and they know that you've got a number of kids,

1071
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Speaker 21: and you can do an AI sort of natural language

1072
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Speaker 21: query about what your entitlements might be versus going to

1073
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Speaker 21: a health website and education website. So we could equit engineers.

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Speaker 2: But that's that's my I mean, Singapore also runs the

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Speaker 2: country with a handful of ministers, and the prime ministers

1076
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Speaker 2: played two million bucks a year, and they're just a

1077
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Speaker 2: completely different country.

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Speaker 21: They're different minds, a different setup. But Estonia as an

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Speaker 21: MMP type environment like US. The UA is obviously a

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Speaker 21: different model. But my point is I want the public

1081
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Speaker 21: service to think of the public of New Zealand as

1082
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Speaker 21: customers and they are large service organizations as you would

1083
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Speaker 21: expect outside of in the private sector.

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Speaker 2: And Audrey Young, do you read her piece and score

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Speaker 2: with eight? You got an eight from her her annual

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Speaker 2: marketing and she says this better at managing the government

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Speaker 2: internally than selling it domestically. Is that fair?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 21: Look, I think there's You're constantly reflecting on what more

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Speaker 21: you can do better, and I'm sure there's better communication

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Speaker 21: I could could do and I've got to keep working

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Speaker 21: at that, and you know I will. But for me,

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Speaker 21: you know, I came to politics four years ago because

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Speaker 21: I want the country to realize it's potential. I think

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Speaker 21: it's a great country and I don't think we have.

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Speaker 21: I've brought a lot of managerial sort of approach to

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Speaker 21: what I'm doing. I've got my team, I think the

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Speaker 21: right ministers on the right assignments with real clarity and

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Speaker 21: holding them to account and supporting them when they need that,

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Speaker 21: and obviously running the public service with quarterly targets and

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Speaker 21: all those kinds of things. So yeah, I do think

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Speaker 21: you know that CEO background is actually quite useful for

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Speaker 21: the time that we're in.

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Speaker 2: The critics are here on yesterday's announcement, defend this. What's

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Speaker 2: the quickest way to get your military spend into two

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Speaker 2: percent of GDP? So we can say we're doing but

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Speaker 2: go and weigh two billion dollars on five helicopters. You say, what, now,

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Speaker 2: that's rubbish.

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Speaker 21: What's different on the defense plan is that in the

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Speaker 21: past you'd have people say we're going to do all

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Speaker 21: this stuff, but there was no money associated with the investments.

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Speaker 21: We've got a really clear plan for fifteen years of

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Speaker 21: the capabilities and the skills we want to build into

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Speaker 21: the defense force in New Zealand that will then plug

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Speaker 21: in well with the Australians and other defense partners. And

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Speaker 21: what's unique here as we've put spending associated with that.

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Speaker 21: So we will spend twelve billion dollars over the next

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Speaker 21: four years. In the first budget announcement you'll see coming

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Speaker 21: out this year. You know that announcement will be there'll

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Speaker 21: be around two billion dollars for those five marine helicopters.

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Speaker 21: We need those helicopters. That's a right capability for us

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Speaker 21: to have when we do emergency management in the Pacific

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Speaker 21: and bank go home.

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Speaker 2: I know you're not going to answer, and I probably

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Speaker 2: asked you this before, but it came to my mind

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Speaker 2: yesterday when you announced what you're twelve billion is a

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Speaker 2: stunning amount of money. It's over four years, I understand that,

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Speaker 2: and nine of it's new and we don't have any

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Speaker 2: of it. So Nicola, in announcing one point three instead

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Speaker 2: of two point four as she did last week, must

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Speaker 2: have found a shitload of dough somewhere in terms of savings,

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Speaker 2: has she again?

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Speaker 21: And I'm going to be the wrong answer that you're

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Speaker 21: not going to like, but it is.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about otherwise it just doesn't

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Speaker 2: add up.

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Speaker 21: Well, I can tell you it does add up, and

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Speaker 21: it's within our fiscal track and so I appreciate you know,

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Speaker 21: people have lots of questions about how we're going to

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Speaker 21: fund it and do that that will be revealed as

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Speaker 21: we deal with the.

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Speaker 2: BU It will all make sense.

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Speaker 9: It will all.

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Speaker 21: Makes sense, and what you're going to see as a

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Speaker 21: budget that is actually saying yep, we know we're in

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Speaker 21: tough and uncertain times, but we have turned the corner

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Speaker 21: and actually things are getting better now. We actually want

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Speaker 21: to make sure that this we are investing for growth,

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Speaker 21: and that's why we're calling it the growth budget. But

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Speaker 21: it's also going to be responsible because we have to

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Speaker 21: pay down that debt over time. We actually have to

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Speaker 21: get our books in much better shape than what they

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Speaker 21: have been and so it will be responsible and that's

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Speaker 21: what you should expect from a government led by Nicola

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Speaker 21: and myself.

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Speaker 2: John Ryan's report into the Have you read it if

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about, the EWE relations and

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Speaker 2: the deals that have been done with Murray over the years.

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Speaker 2: He's on his way out, isn't he? Isn't he? John

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Speaker 2: Ryan leaving ordered to general. I'm not sure I thought

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Speaker 2: it was anyways written this major report that says basically,

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Speaker 2: none of the government departments are meeting Marie expectations as

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Speaker 2: a result of the treaty process. In other words, you

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Speaker 2: see you sign a treaty deal and no one follows up. Yeah, look,

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Speaker 2: I think one of them's got a KPI a target

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Speaker 2: nothing Yeah so or not?

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Speaker 21: No, No, there is a real there is an issue

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Speaker 21: there which I've spoken with Tamar about and we've we've

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Speaker 21: tooked that through. He sees to you what happens is

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Speaker 21: you do a treaty settlement and then there are obligations

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Speaker 21: on the crown and on EWE work.

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Speaker 2: He says, you're not making any of them.

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Speaker 21: Well, I think that we can do. I agree with that.

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Speaker 21: I don't think we've done a good enough job of

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Speaker 21: following through on the actions. And I meet with typically

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Speaker 21: some of those EWE you know, each year with my

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Speaker 21: set of ministers, and the key question is and thim

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Speaker 21: is now getting it gripped up. But we do have

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Speaker 21: a plan to actually say, right, are you following through

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Speaker 21: on those actions and those commitments that we've made. I

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Speaker 21: do think we can do a better job on that.

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Speaker 2: Is Talma coming back to you in my lifetime. On

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Speaker 2: the review of the White Tangy Tribune, Yes he is.

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Speaker 21: He's working on that right now.

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Speaker 2: So you say that every time. I know, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he's working on it. When's he going to produce something

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00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: that Scott's not sure on the time? Was last week?

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Speaker 2: You say, where the hell's the report on the White

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Speaker 2: tang In Tribune or TAMA or words to that effect. No,

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Speaker 2: he's very.

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Speaker 21: Clear about what he's expected to deliver, and that's one

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Speaker 21: of the things he's working very closely on.

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Speaker 2: Tom Rutherford, Yeah, tell me about him. Have you heard

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Speaker 2: this morning story?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 2: What's the story?

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Speaker 13: Is?

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Speaker 2: He stopped in the middle of a highway. There was

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Speaker 2: a man who was in some mental distress. Do you

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Speaker 2: know the story?

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Speaker 12: Now?

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Speaker 9: I don't know?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So he's in some mental distress. He's in the

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Speaker 2: middle of the highway over the weekend. Tom's on his

1205
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 2: way home from the market. He stops, put his life

1206
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Speaker 2: at risk to help this guy off the state highway?

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Speaker 2: Is that Tom?

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Speaker 9: Tom? That he united?

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Speaker 21: That is a great young man and he's got a

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Speaker 21: great future. And he's someone I've spent a lot of

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Speaker 21: time with and he really cares about people. He's a

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Speaker 21: great rugby referee, does all sorts of things in his community.

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Speaker 21: He's just a stand up, classy guy.

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Speaker 2: Did you go to Adrianaw's farewell?

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 2: I didn't because there was no do I was invited. No, No,

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Speaker 2: there was no booze. There were six thousand dollars for

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Speaker 2: a gift. There were sausage rolls and cookies and water.

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Speaker 2: Induce Is that what the public service is down to now,

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Speaker 2: is that a public is that a public service farewell.

1221
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 21: I don't know. There's are decisions for the Public Service Commissioner,

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Speaker 21: but I wasn't invited to the farewell.

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Speaker 2: Does he know us an explanation as to why he quit? Well, look,

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Speaker 2: I mean do you know why he could?

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Speaker 21: No?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't.

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Speaker 21: I mean I just know that you know we yea,

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Speaker 21: he made his own independent decision.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but did he split it? Don't you want to know?

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Speaker 2: I mean he held one of the most significant roles

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Speaker 2: in the public service of this country and took us

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Speaker 2: through an extraordinary economic journey and they just manished.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean we came back for some biscuits and

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Speaker 2: some juicy and then again.

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Speaker 21: Well, I mean all I can say is that, you know,

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Speaker 21: we've come in as a new government. We respect the

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Speaker 21: independence as you would expect me to say of the

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00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 21: Reserve Bank of New Zealand, as we should, but we

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Speaker 21: focused it on a mandate of killing inflation, which it

1241
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Speaker 21: started to do, which it has done, which is good.

1242
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Speaker 21: That has led to interest rates coming down. That's putting

1243
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Speaker 21: money and keep his pockets. So I'm focused on the future.

1244
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Speaker 21: I can't really deal with the past. And all right,

1245
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 21: and what did it didn't happen through that. You appreciate

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00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 21: your time. Christopher likes it's to have away from it.

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Speaker 2: It'd be I think I'm right and seeing John Ryan

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Speaker 2: the orders of the General's leaving Prime Minister didn't seem know,

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Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, doesn't matter, but the Adrian au

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00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 2: thing fascinates me. Six one hundred and eighty dollars. This

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Speaker 2: happened last week. It was going to be held the farewell.

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Speaker 2: It was going to be held at the Pipatitia Mariah. Remember,

1255
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 2: of course he just announced he was off and he's

1256
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Speaker 2: never been seen again, and he suddenly popped back up

1257
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Speaker 2: last week for the farewell at Pipatilla Mariah. They had

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Speaker 2: to change that because the weather was so appalling in Wellington,

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Speaker 2: so they went and held it in their offices. So

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Speaker 2: they claiming six thousand, one hundred and eighty dollars on

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Speaker 2: gift and catering costs for venue high to be determined.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have thought there any costs for venue high,

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Speaker 2: given they held it in their offices. So six thousand,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty confirmed the alcohol free event. Now

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Speaker 2: I'm not all for getting slashed during the week, but

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00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 2: I mean a glass of something, you know, to say

1267
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 2: farewell to the Reserve Bank governor. Surely has the public

1268
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 2: service got that tight? Alcohol free event featured sausage rolls, cookies.

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00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: Who even uses that term? Apart from when you're at kindergarten?

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Speaker 2: Would you like a cookie? These are Reserve Bank people.

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00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 2: So sausage rolls, cookies, muffs, hot beverages, juice and water.

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Speaker 2: Does that sound to you like the most god awful,

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00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 2: boring farewell in the history of farewells. Thus, even with

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00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 2: the cost of living crisis, even with the cost of

1275
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 2: sausage rolls, that leaves a pretty reasonable amount of money

1276
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Speaker 2: at six one hundred and eighty for a gift. So

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Speaker 2: I want to know what the gift was. I'm not

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00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 2: being penny pinching about this. See I hope they gave

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00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: him something nice, but I would argue and let me

1280
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: know what you think. Does he not as one of

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Speaker 2: the most high profile public servants in this country not

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00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 2: to mention the most influential I was an explanation. Why

1283
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: did he do it?

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Speaker 9: Just?

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Speaker 2: I don't care what it is? He can just say, Look,

1286
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 2: I got sick of it. I got tired of the government.

1287
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 2: They wanted to cut the budget by too much. I

1288
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: got bored, I got angry.

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Speaker 18: Could I face another interview with my host?

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Speaker 2: Couldn't face another interview with Mike Hosking packed a mass

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Speaker 2: of set whatever. Just turn up and say why you're leaving.

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Speaker 2: It's all I want to know. Serve it away from it.

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Speaker 1: togs Head b The.

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Speaker 2: Six thousand, Mike will be for the panamu handled toilet brush.

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Speaker 2: You know what the irony of that is is I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised. Not necessary a toilet brush, but a

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00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 2: bit of panamu. That's a very reserved bank. Hopefully it's

1299
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Speaker 2: a one way ticket to anywhere, Mike. The public services

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Speaker 2: that type people leave after twenty years and it's bring

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Speaker 2: a plate. It's all. Yeah, there's something. There's a line,

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Speaker 2: isn't there. There's nothing wrong with demanding frugality and we

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00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: don't want waste, but there's something awful about water cookies

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00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 2: and a sausage roll. It sounds just so boring. Morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Tom Rutherford nicest guy, a hard working MP. You should

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Speaker 2: get him on. Maybe we will news for you in

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00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes. Then let's rip into a busy

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Speaker 2: weekend of sport with the lads.

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Speaker 1: Setting the agenda and talking the big issues. The Mike

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Speaker 1: Hanking Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life, your Way, News,

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Speaker 1: togs headbo.

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Speaker 22: It's snow now run come and the Blues get the

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Speaker 22: bonus point and they're in the top six floud spots

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Speaker 22: for maybe only twenty four hours.

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Speaker 8: All times up boil over in the Capitol, the table

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Speaker 8: toppers topples and my wide up is.

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Speaker 22: Going to go fade history once more, the what and

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Speaker 22: four side mast in for the first time, the beat

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Speaker 22: the heighthedness for the first time.

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Speaker 23: Three wins from the opening four races for Alex Pollo.

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Speaker 15: That is your podium plow Lunkard.

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Speaker 24: M Lachlin and it's light sound and away we.

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Speaker 6: Goes back to staff and get to the excellent start.

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Speaker 23: From London Norris.

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Speaker 24: He goes Kenny an Sinnadi.

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Speaker 2: With PS three on the inside the stafford. Yeah, now

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Speaker 2: interesting the starts.

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Speaker 1: Just the Monday Morning commentary box on the Mike Husking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions

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Speaker 1: for over fifty years.

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Speaker 2: We're under virtual safety carro at the moment, there was

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Speaker 2: a bump between the step and Norris at the very

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Speaker 2: start of the doing's just out. That's why we've got

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Speaker 2: a safety car. He hit somebody and he's got a puncher.

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Speaker 2: So he's now out of the race and Lawson is

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Speaker 2: currently he hit Laws and did he so Lawson gave

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Speaker 2: him the puncture. So far this weekend, Lawson's run Alonso

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Speaker 2: off the track and has now caused Jack doing a

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Speaker 2: puncher to leave the race. Lawson currently last in the field.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Sabil and Jason Pine, both with US Fellows.

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Speaker 24: Good morning, Morning Morning.

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Speaker 2: I get the scenes Andrew that I said it earlier

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Speaker 2: on the program. Lawson needs to deliver a little bit

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Speaker 2: and he seems to be wading through. I mean, some

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Speaker 2: of it's his fault, some of it isn't, but he

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Speaker 2: seems to be working fairly hard.

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Speaker 22: There just seems to be with each race meeting something

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Speaker 22: that's untoward with his car, or there's an incident or yeah,

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Speaker 22: maybe there's still the settling period. There's no doubt about

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Speaker 22: it that he's racing hard and trying hard. I mean,

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Speaker 22: that seventh place finish yesterday I thought was outstanding, but

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Speaker 22: then he had the points taken off by the stewards obviously,

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Speaker 22: So yeah, he's as we know, he's a racer. He's racing,

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Speaker 22: but things just aren't going as way.

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Speaker 2: Now are you watching it this morning, Jason?

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Speaker 8: I am, yes, watching it as we speak, Mike. My

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Speaker 8: attention divided slightly, eyes up on the screen.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, it was Lawson got spun when he

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Speaker 2: hit Do and so he's he's at the back of

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Speaker 2: the field. So it's going to be a very interesting

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Speaker 2: sort of brace. So as far as the Warriors concerned, Andrew,

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Speaker 2: let's focus on the real success stories of the weekend.

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Speaker 2: So the Warriors, I mean, tell me that they're not

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Speaker 2: one of the best sides in the entire competition now, consistent,

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Speaker 2: still still got players missing, they're winning, they're winning well.

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Speaker 22: I just can't believe they're winning so well, Mike, and

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Speaker 22: playing so well spishally. Defensively, yes, are scoring tries, but

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Speaker 22: I think their defense has been very good in the

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Speaker 22: last few games, with those crucial wins without Fisher Harris,

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Speaker 22: without two I Vasask and a couple of others. I

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Speaker 22: think they've been doing remarkably well, and yes, they'd have

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Speaker 22: to be one of the best things.

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Speaker 9: Look about.

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Speaker 22: Second, Yeah, so you can't you can't deny that.

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Speaker 2: No, exactly, And if the Dogs had one yesterday we

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Speaker 2: would have been tired for first. You must be loving Jason.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're spending a lot of time on that

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Speaker 2: fabulous award winning afternoon show of yours on the weekend

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Speaker 2: talking about the Warriors.

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Speaker 8: Lots of focus on the Warriors, Mike, I am loving it.

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Speaker 8: It's got a bit tense at the end, didn't it

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Speaker 8: against the Cowboys thirty points to twelve ahead, But yeah,

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Speaker 8: I think you know Sam's right.

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Speaker 24: The defense of the side is what's so impressive.

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Speaker 8: That try saving tackle by Luke Metcalf yep near the

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Speaker 8: end of that game, which would have leveled it up

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Speaker 8: a thirty all were a kick to come for the

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Speaker 8: Cowboys's that's effectively won the Warriors that match.

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Speaker 24: I'm liking Luke Metcalf.

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Speaker 8: I know he's still a work in progress in certain

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Speaker 8: areas of his game, but I'm really liking what he's doing.

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Speaker 8: And yeah, I mean you you can't make you the

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Speaker 8: Warriors looking good. A couple of weeks away. They've got

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Speaker 8: a couple of away games Dragons Dolphins. That home game

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Speaker 8: against the Raiders at the back end of May is

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Speaker 8: going to be quite something as they try and get

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Speaker 8: some revenge for what happened in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: I watched the snooker and the f one of course

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Speaker 2: sav and the Warriors so there. Before I watched zero rugby.

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Speaker 22: Highlight was what Mowana beating the Highlanders in Dunedin. Also

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Speaker 22: the Canes, what they did in that second half against

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Speaker 22: the Chiefs, who let's not forget the Chiefs are still

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Speaker 22: number one. I thought the Hurricanes played very well. They've

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Speaker 22: sent out a bit of a warning as they did

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Speaker 22: a few weeks ago a couple of weeks ago on Canberra,

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Speaker 22: but other performances now they just need to string a

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Speaker 22: few together. But the Hurricanes will certainly be there, I

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Speaker 22: think come playoff time. But I thought mowana Is first

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Speaker 22: ever went out against the Highlanders yesterday. It was outstanding

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Speaker 22: sporting drama that the lead was changing quite a few

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Speaker 22: times in the second half and then the charge down

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Speaker 22: try to win it in the end. I thought it

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Speaker 22: was superb. And now Mowana is in the top six

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Speaker 22: and who would have thought that was?

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Speaker 2: That part is true? Can I just pull you up

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Speaker 2: on the thing about the Highlanders? The Highlanders are useless?

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Speaker 22: I mean really yeah, yeah yeah, the Highlanders.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: But still given Mowana's season, I've had given some of

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Speaker 22: the stuff they had to put up with off the field,

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Speaker 22: I think what they did was was fantastic. To go

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Speaker 22: to Dunedin and to score another win, and to be

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Speaker 22: ahead of other teams, other more fancy teams, I think

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Speaker 22: is outstanding.

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Speaker 24: But what about Artie's try? What about we've seen that is?

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Speaker 24: He is a remarkable rugby player.

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Speaker 22: Another eighty minutes, another inspirational performance. He's lead. I think

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Speaker 22: he's leading the best player standings in the competition and

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Speaker 22: he should win that hands down.

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Speaker 8: There were warriors weren't there with it when he went

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Speaker 8: to mo Onea pacifica ah, you know what's going to

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Speaker 8: happen to Artie?

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Speaker 22: Will he be up to it?

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Speaker 24: Will he?

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Speaker 12: You know?

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Speaker 8: Will they drag him down? It's the other way around.

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Speaker 8: He has pulled that team up. He is a remarkable

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Speaker 8: rugby player. Artista there and just that try yesterday just

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Speaker 8: the latest evidence of it.

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Speaker 2: Just quickly, Jason, that lost to Auckland FC. Is that

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Speaker 2: the we've won these so we let it slip mentally

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01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 2: or something out to it.

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Speaker 8: So I think at the back of their minds they

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01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 8: knew that there was nothing really writing on that game. Look,

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Speaker 8: it's not ideal. You don't want to go into a

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Speaker 8: final series off the back of a loss. But you know,

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01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 8: if there was ever any complacency, it'll be gone now.

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Speaker 8: I think we kind of just draw a line under it,

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Speaker 8: Mike and look forward to the semi finals. Non ideal,

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01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 8: but yet I'll I'll have a week off now and

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01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 8: look forward to the home and away semis in a

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Speaker 8: couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about the Indian Panthers in the moment.

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Speaker 2: More shortly, thirteen past the.

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio call it

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Speaker 1: by News.

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Speaker 2: Talk Zippi News Talks sixteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Monday morning commentary barks on the Mic Hosking Breakfast

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01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Here's Lawson after he got hit.

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Speaker 12: Let me go around a loss of.

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Speaker 13: One Now, yeah, I got completely I have no idea

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Speaker 13: what the hopeing was doing.

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Speaker 24: I'd like to see that old board as well. That

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Speaker 24: was we have laws coming along on the outside of

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01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 24: Jack doing.

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01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 2: So he's now at the back of the field, Liam

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01:06:55,800 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 2: Lawson the stepping leads, along with Piastre Antonelli and Norris

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01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 2: and Jason Pine and Andrew Sebler with us Andrew took.

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Speaker 22: There may be an issue with his car mate, because

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Speaker 22: what is He's six or seven seconds behind Gasley in eighteenth.

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01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 22: Lawson is nineteenth, So maybe there's an issue there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all over the weekend with the battery and the

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Speaker 2: car and stuff like that. The Indian Panthers explained to

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01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 2: me why we had an Indian team suddenly in the league,

1477
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 2: Why we let a team into the league that clearly

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01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 2: had problems, and how bad does this look for basketball?

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01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 22: I think at the time it sounded too good to

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01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 22: be true, expanding into what is obviously a massive market,

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01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 22: and clearly it was too good to be true. I

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01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 22: think the league it's made a mistake, or didn't make

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01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 22: a mistake. I think he's on basketball pretty swiftly in

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01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 22: suspending the team. I don't know if we'll see them

1485
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 22: back again. It's probably up to the national league here

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01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 22: in the country to make sure they have a strong,

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01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 22: financially sustainable league number one and all the teams are

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01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 22: financially stable and strong in the league before they start

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Speaker 22: expanding to a country like India.

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Speaker 24: Maybe when they were.

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Speaker 22: Sitting around the board table thrashing things out, a good

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01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 22: idea on paper but just hasn't worked.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of it, Jason? Is it big

1494
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 2: among the sporting coment? It just makes I mean, participation wise,

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01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 2: basketball is as big as it gets as far as

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01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 2: I know in this country, along with football. But it

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Speaker 2: just looks jerry manned and amateurish, doesn't it.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, you're right about there. I mean it's huge basketball massive.

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Speaker 8: I think that's been It's an attempt at innovation, and look,

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Speaker 8: I don't think any of us would ever deny, you know,

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Speaker 8: any sporting organization the right to try and innovate. It

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01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:35,560
Speaker 8: just has been, you know, the due diligence has not

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01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 8: been strong enough behind the Indian Panthers organization. You know,

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01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 8: dig a couple of layers deeper than they have and

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01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 8: they would have found out a bit of stuff that

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Speaker 8: that would have probably helped them in making a different decision.

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Speaker 24: Had Jeff Green on the radio over the weekend.

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Speaker 8: He thinks that the Indian Panthers are trying to get

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Speaker 8: into the Australian National Basketball League and coming in through

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Speaker 8: New Zealand was a way of doing that.

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Speaker 24: I don't know whether that's true or not.

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Speaker 8: I mean, they can't even pay their players and the

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Speaker 8: New Zealand league, so how they're going to manage Australian

1514
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 8: league is.

1515
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 24: Is another question. But look, it hasn't worked. I think

1516
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 24: you know they have. They've held up their hands and said, look,

1517
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 24: this hasn't worked.

1518
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 8: You know, full marks for trying to innovate, but very

1519
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 8: low marks for the execution of this one.

1520
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 9: Tell you what I think.

1521
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 22: It just raises a concern. It raises a just quickly

1522
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 22: he raises another concern is that basketball has grown so

1523
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 22: fast and it's and it's massive that you just hope

1524
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 22: that at the very top it's being run well, it's

1525
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 22: being administered well, because if it's not, then it's the

1526
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 22: then it's the bottom of the triangle that'suffs. But like football,

1527
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 22: Jason might comment on this is that football has huge numbers,

1528
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 22: but sometimes you look at how the games run at

1529
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 22: the very top and you scratching.

1530
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 2: You know, it's tennis's class. Tennis is a classic example

1531
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 2: Adams Adams I was watching. I happen to be watching

1532
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 2: the Warriors game the other day, and he likes it

1533
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 2: has grown another leg or he's sort of taken some pills,

1534
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 2: or his back or he's you know, he sort of

1535
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 2: went through that. He's a lot injured and that's probably

1536
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 2: his best behind him all of a sudden, and they

1537
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 2: were the commentators. We could not stop waxing lyrical about him.

1538
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 22: And this is a good Golden State team. Okay, not

1539
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,839
Speaker 22: a championship winning team. Probably still got Curry there, obviously,

1540
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 22: but no, you know, a lot of people thought that

1541
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 22: Adams was on his way out after those knee injuries

1542
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 22: and other injury seedbacks. He's seen a lot of time

1543
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 22: in the league, what is it, eleven twelve years. His

1544
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 22: body is probably just about done. But talk about getting

1545
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 22: a second wind. He's always thought there was a little

1546
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,520
Speaker 22: bit left in him if he got into the playoffs,

1547
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 22: and that would be a huge motivating factor, and clearly

1548
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,919
Speaker 22: it is and he's playing true Steven Adams basketball.

1549
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 2: It's fantastic to watch. By the way, I'm interested in

1550
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 2: you of you on this Jason the Snooker, which is

1551
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 2: on at the moment at the final Williams versus this

1552
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: guy called Ze Tong. He was one of the tea

1553
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 2: I can't remember how many of there were. That there

1554
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 2: were a bunch of Chinese guys about two three years ago,

1555
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 2: maybe even slightly longer who were done for match fixing

1556
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 2: and they got banned and I've sort of forgotten about

1557
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 2: it until it was pointed out to me over the weekend.

1558
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 2: This this guy is one of them, and.

1559
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 8: So yeah, he never he never fixed matches. He was

1560
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 8: only involved with the group that did. I know that's

1561
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 8: probably a you know, not much of a defense.

1562
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 24: And he was banned. He's served as band. He's back.

1563
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 24: I'll tell you what, Mike, I just cannot get enough

1564
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 24: of the snooker.

1565
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 8: I'll watch that Jaoshingtong and just even the way he

1566
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 8: moves around to incredibly.

1567
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 24: He's a wonderful player.

1568
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 8: But what about Ronnie O'Sullivan even you'll know this, Mikes

1569
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 8: a you know, as an up and coming snooker player

1570
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 8: and never change the bits of.

1571
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:42,560
Speaker 2: Your kindergram or do you you never did? He's unfortunately,

1572
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 2: he's a head case and he's talked. He's talked himself

1573
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 2: into defeat. If you watch his interviews post game, if

1574
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 2: ever you want to see a guy talking himself down,

1575
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 2: he's it. And he's messed himself around, and he's changing

1576
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 2: his cue and he's changing his action. He's got over coached,

1577
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 2: and I'm a loser and I don't want to win

1578
01:11:59,560 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 2: any more.

1579
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 22: And you know, so it's really I looked at him

1580
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 22: the other day and you know, he reminded me of

1581
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 22: Liam Gallahad.

1582
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 2: Same thing. Yeah, the same thing, very much.

1583
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 22: He's absolutely mad and he just looks like he's going

1584
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 22: to explode and go off the moment.

1585
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,839
Speaker 2: That's that he's got that. It's a very good analogy.

1586
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 2: He's got that. Yeah, East London, East London, go on

1587
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 2: a bender.

1588
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 22: Yeah, grab a baseball bat, go down to the boozer.

1589
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 2: Very much so.

1590
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 22: But my question to you, I sat down the other

1591
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 22: night and I clicked on the snooker. I said, I'm

1592
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 22: going to give this crap and I was bored. I

1593
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 22: was completely bored. And I'm thinking, as a kid, we

1594
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 22: all grew up watching Pot Black write, and I came

1595
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 22: to the realization we obviously had nothing else to do

1596
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 22: in our lives. At that stage in the seventies because

1597
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 22: I actually found pot Black interesting this. I'm sorry, but

1598
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 22: it's it's boring.

1599
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: Jeez. Okay, at least there's a couple of the Fisherionados

1600
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:56,799
Speaker 2: on this segment. Jason.

1601
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 22: If it takes a couple of Fishnados to get it

1602
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 22: on sky gee was what will be wrong?

1603
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 2: I mean that's it went on my pipe by I

1604
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 2: claimed that, But no quick question, just to wrap the

1605
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 2: suck because I've got to go. I would have thought

1606
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 2: these guys should have been banned for life. You're a

1607
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 2: match fixer, You're banned for life. You don't do two years,

1608
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 2: then come back and win a world championship.

1609
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 22: Do you maybe the Chinese market's too important to them, right, Yeah?

1610
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 24: I think this kid's gonna do it.

1611
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you will too. He's seven one up.

1612
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,799
Speaker 2: Nice to see you, guys, Jason Pin Andrews Sevale twenty three.

1613
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: The Mate Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Dogs.

1614
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 2: They'd be use dogsba twenty six. Piastre has just got

1615
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 2: the stap and so he leads the race and Norris

1616
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 2: has recovered from his problem at the start of the race,

1617
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 2: and he's about to take the stapping as well, so

1618
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 2: that'll be Piastre and Norris head to head. Papya rules

1619
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 2: whatever that means. It's just a phrase they invented called

1620
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,759
Speaker 2: papye rules and we don't know what it means because

1621
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 2: they seem to change it every time they have a

1622
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 2: race where Papya rules are required. But presumably they're allowed

1623
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 2: to race, but not the expense of running each other

1624
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 2: off the track. But if they get a one two,

1625
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 2: it's all good. And on the corner he's about to

1626
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 2: get him? Is he going to get YEA, he's about

1627
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 2: to get him. Anyway, I news for you in a

1628
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 2: couple of moments, and then we'll go, of course to

1629
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: the Australian vote. Historic, stunning, extraordinary. There is no way

1630
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 2: to convey the sheer drama of this election result without

1631
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 2: reaching for words that sound overblown. It has been an

1632
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: incredible moment, so I wrote David Crowe in the Sydney

1633
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 2: Morning Herald yesterday. Did anyone really see it coming? Is

1634
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 2: it the Trump factor? Was it the Dutton factor? How

1635
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 2: do the coalition rebuild? Does it all go to Elbow's

1636
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 2: head and he goes crazy like we saw between twenty

1637
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 2: and twenty three are those more answers for you with

1638
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 2: Steve Price right after the News which is next here

1639
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 2: on the Mike Hosking Breakfast Here at news Talk said.

1640
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: Be good, the breakfast show, Kiwi's trust to stay in

1641
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 1: the Nome, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover,

1642
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: the LA designed to intrigue.

1643
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 2: Can use talks dead be you work out what happened

1644
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 2: to let well, we know what happened to Liam. But

1645
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 2: Liam's at the back of the field and he's falling

1646
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 2: further and further behind. So clearly something came out of

1647
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 2: the do an incident and his car's not well, but

1648
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 2: clearly not unwell enough to pit him and fix it

1649
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 2: or do something to improve matters. So there's a little

1650
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 2: bit of rain in the forecast. It was supposed to

1651
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 2: arrive at lap fourteen when out lap twenty two, so

1652
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 2: obviously the rain is late. But currently Piastre ahead of Norris,

1653
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 2: ahead of a step and ahead of Antonelli in Miami.

1654
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 2: It is twenty three minutes away from.

1655
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 14: Nine International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of

1656
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 14: mind for New Zealand Business.

1657
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 2: I tell you what pistre Steve morning to you piastre Is,

1658
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 2: He's I don't know if I said it to you

1659
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 2: last week or the week before, but Tom, I reckon

1660
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 2: he's one better than Norris and proving to be better

1661
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 2: than Norris and ultimately will be better than Norris and

1662
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 2: may well be a world champion.

1663
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 7: Certainly better than Peter Dutton. He's did win anything up

1664
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 7: the weekend. Yeah, Oscar's about the only thing we can

1665
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 7: hang our hat on this morning.

1666
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's interesting. Did you the size of the

1667
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 2: wind surprise you?

1668
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 7: Absolutely? We went into election day everybody suggesting Labor would

1669
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 7: get back into some sort of government. Most of us

1670
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 7: predicted and I think I did with you on Wednesday minority,

1671
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 7: but they're going to have a whacking majority. Now, I

1672
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 7: don't think anyone predicted what would occur, but it happens

1673
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 7: so quickly on Saturday night and the vote was over

1674
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:26,560
Speaker 7: by seven thirty quarter gay And here's a stat for

1675
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 7: here that staggers everybody who is a voter who votes

1676
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 7: for the coalition. They're going to be left the Liberal

1677
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 7: Party and National Party coalition probably with only half a

1678
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 7: dozen seats in Metropolitan Australia. Wow, now that's just incredible.

1679
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 7: I mean, the swing to Labor wasn't huge. The primary

1680
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 7: vote Labor wasn't huge either. It all came down to preferences,

1681
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 7: so everybody who again went out and voted to Yalm Green,

1682
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 7: their preferences flowed to Labor and has installed Alberanzi for

1683
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 7: at least another three years, probably for another two terms.

1684
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 7: I mean the Tears all won back their seats. I

1685
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 7: was predicting they'd lose a couple in Melbourne, which they didn't,

1686
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 7: and in Victoria the vote for the Labor Party was strong,

1687
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 7: despite the fact that the State Labor Party is so

1688
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 7: much on the nose. I mean, Peter Dutton's gone now,

1689
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 7: so who replaces him? Well, the talent list is not

1690
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 7: very long. You've probably got Susan Lay the Deputy, Andrew Hasty,

1691
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 7: the former Sas Commando from Perth, and Angus Tata the

1692
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 7: Shadow Treasure but none of them really particularly inspire anyone.

1693
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 7: So the little National Coalition have got a huge, huge

1694
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 7: amount of sobering thought about what's going to happen next.

1695
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 7: And then we have Anthony Albanese has now got another

1696
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 7: term and I would suspect probably two more.

1697
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, is it the preferencing, because it's certainly the name

1698
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 2: Campbell Newman sprang to mind. You've seen it in Western Australia,

1699
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 2: You've seen in Queensland. This routing of parties at certain times.

1700
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 2: Is that it's not the percentage of the vote, but

1701
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 2: it's clearly the quirk of the system that allows parties

1702
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 2: either to win massively or get wiped out.

1703
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 20: Yeah.

1704
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 9: Correct.

1705
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 7: And one example of preferences and what it did on

1706
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 7: this result on the weekend was the Greens. Now, the

1707
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 7: Greens lost two of the three seats that they were

1708
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 7: holding in the last parliament of Brisbane. Did they lose

1709
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 7: those seats because people turned on the Greens? No, not particularly,

1710
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 7: but people who voted for the Liberal National Coalition put

1711
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 7: as their second preference the Labor Party, and so the

1712
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 7: Labor Party picked up those two seats in Brisbane. I mean,

1713
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 7: I've got my fingers crossed that Adam Bands, who's a

1714
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 7: lunatic who's the head of the Greens in Australia, might

1715
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 7: lose Melbourne. I mean, the counting is still going on

1716
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,719
Speaker 7: and there's some suggestion he's in a bit of trouble.

1717
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 7: That would please me no end to see him gone.

1718
01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 7: But the preference system is what does it here. The

1719
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 7: Labor Party they ran a better campaign. The Libs didn't

1720
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 7: run a very good campaign. We've now got the big

1721
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 7: issue what do we do about energy in Australia. And

1722
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 7: as you know, we've talked about nuclear over and over again.

1723
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 7: The public clearly enamored with the fact that we should

1724
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 7: go nuclear. So that's a coalition and whoever leads it

1725
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 7: now might just simply drop that idea of nuclear. I mean,

1726
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 7: maybe they have to.

1727
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 2: Can we say or is it am I wrong? Can

1728
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 2: we say that Elbow didn't win because they love them

1729
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 2: and they love labor and they love a labor style

1730
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 2: of running the country. They simply won because they looked

1731
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 2: at the alternative which was done and et cetera, and

1732
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:39,600
Speaker 2: they just couldn't stomach.

1733
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,600
Speaker 7: It one hundred percent. That's exactly what happened. He was

1734
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 7: very hard to sell. You know, it's unfortunate you can't.

1735
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 7: You've got no control over what you look like. He's

1736
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 7: a bald headed guy who has had portfolios in government

1737
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 7: which include national security, border protection, all of the tough

1738
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 7: guy portfolio, and so people just simply didn't warm to him.

1739
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 7: And this is the first election, and I mean, you'll

1740
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 7: have to deal with this at some point. This is

1741
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 7: the first election in this country where the baby boomers

1742
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 7: have not been the majority of the voters. You've now

1743
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 7: got millennials and Gen z who are pushing and so

1744
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 7: that the traditional media has less of an impact in

1745
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 7: all of those sens. But what we left with is

1746
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 7: a Labor Party that's got seats in the low eighties

1747
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 7: and a coalition in the high thirties. And that's a

1748
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 7: hell of a long way there.

1749
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 9: It is.

1750
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 2: Is there a possibility this all goes to us as

1751
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 2: here we saw this in twenty twenty through twenty twenty

1752
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 2: three Labor different system obviously, but they got a majority,

1753
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 2: shouldn't have got a majority, got a majority and went

1754
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 2: nuts and everyone hated them three years later. Does Elbow

1755
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 2: have that potential problem?

1756
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 7: One hundred percent yes. But the problem is the opposition

1757
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 7: don't have a particularly good leader. They're going to find

1758
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 7: someone to lead them and that might indeed happen. I mean,

1759
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 7: it reminds me a lot of what happened to seven

1760
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 7: Kevin rud one. John Howard lost his own seat like

1761
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 7: Peter Dutton did on Saturday Night. Two elections later, Tony

1762
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 7: Abbott got coalition back to the low nineties in terms

1763
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 7: of seats, because the rug Gillard rub governments were so

1764
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 7: chaotic that everyone said, we can't have this mob running

1765
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 7: and so let's go back to the other guys. And

1766
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 7: I suspect in two elections time we might say the

1767
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 7: same thing.

1768
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 2: Great stuff mate, Well see your Wednesday preciated very much

1769
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 2: to price out of Australia. The opposition leader lost as

1770
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 2: seed shadow ministers are heading the same way. Labor prepared

1771
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 2: with care and fought with discipline. The coalition plan complacently

1772
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 2: and fought atrociously, said one scribe yesterday across the Tasman.

1773
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 2: But it's important point out. And I come to the

1774
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 2: British vote in just a couple of moments. That percentages

1775
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 2: and the systems in which you run them, I like,

1776
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 2: and saying this is the Prime minister off there before

1777
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 2: I actually like. This is why MMP to me works

1778
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 2: to a degree. You get the number of seats representing

1779
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 2: the percentage of the vote, and you don't do that

1780
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 2: in Britain, and you certainly don't do that in Australia.

1781
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 2: And that seems to me anyway, at least than one

1782
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 2: aspect of voting are to be grossly unfair sixteen two.

1783
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

1784
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 1: By News talks that.

1785
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 2: Be yeah, thirteen anyway from that, and I'll tell you why.

1786
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 2: I think of all the voting that's gone on over

1787
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 2: the weekend in the last couple of days, and that

1788
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 2: includes Canada of course, and everyone's doing the whole anti

1789
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 2: Trump thing, which is probably true, certainly a place like Canada,

1790
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 2: it's true. And then you go to the safety of

1791
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 2: what you know, Singapore got an increased vote, The People's

1792
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 2: Action Party got an increased vote over the weekend eighty

1793
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 2: seven of ninety seven or eighty five and ninety five,

1794
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 2: whatever it was, I can't remember. They'd better than expecting,

1795
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 2: of course, elbows when you know, flight to safety basically.

1796
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 2: And yet the exact opposite happened in Britain. And what's

1797
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 2: significant about Britain is, yes, it was a local body election,

1798
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 2: but the difference between local body elections in Britain and

1799
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 2: here is that they're run by the party. So in

1800
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 2: other words, they're just many versions of the national general election.

1801
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 2: So your candidates are all Tories, Conservatives, Labor Party, Lib

1802
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 2: Dems and Reform. Now there was a by election in

1803
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 2: amongst the local body elections, and Rod was telling us

1804
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 2: about it last week. It was the Runkomen hellsby by election.

1805
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 2: Reform won it, and this was a Labor seat that

1806
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 2: was so safe to Labor it was inconceivable that something

1807
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 2: someone like Reform could come along and win this by election,

1808
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,759
Speaker 2: but nevertheless they did win it. Also the Reform Party

1809
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 2: won dominated not just seats and councils, but control of

1810
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 2: councils in Kent, Staffordshire, Lincolnshire, Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire and Lancashire. And

1811
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 2: these are people to the rights, so they're doge people.

1812
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 2: They are people who are going to cancel work from home.

1813
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 2: So once you control a council in Britain you can

1814
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 2: make some genuine change. And they're going to be making

1815
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 2: genuine change. And it was thought over the weekend by

1816
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 2: very wise heads who know a great deal more about

1817
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 2: the electoral process than I do in Britain that one

1818
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 2: this can translate to the national equation, the national story.

1819
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 2: So the suggestion from more than one bright spark was

1820
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 2: that this is the end of the two party system

1821
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 2: in Britain. This has been decimated now, so the Lib

1822
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 2: Dems a players. The Reform Party is certainly players, and

1823
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 2: in amongst that you've got the Labor government and you've

1824
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 2: got these Tories who were down to a shell of

1825
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 2: what they once were. So in other words, you've got

1826
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 2: a four party system now and that it's entirely possible

1827
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 2: that this scenario will play out at the next general election. Further,

1828
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 2: they said that if you extrapolate out the support that

1829
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 2: Reform got on Friday and Saturday and put it into

1830
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 2: a general election, they would be the government. In other words,

1831
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 2: Nigel Farage would be the Prime Minister of Britain. And

1832
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 2: that's why, to my mind anyway was vastly more important

1833
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 2: than any one of the other elections that was held

1834
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 2: around the world, because largely within a margin, they turned

1835
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 2: out the way you thought. What didn't turn out the

1836
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 2: way you think is what happened in Britain. That translates

1837
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 2: Britain has been changed potentially forever. Ten away from nine.

1838
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 1: The make Asking Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement Communities News

1839
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: tog dad be.

1840
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 2: You make a very good point on the text, Mike,

1841
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 2: we got a bald person running the country. Perhaps we're

1842
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 2: headed for the same result. In twenty twenty six. So

1843
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this earlier on this morning. Much

1844
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:09,640
Speaker 2: was made of the look of Peter Dutton, the Voldemort

1845
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 2: type reputation that he had, and there was some personality

1846
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 2: in there as well, but the fact he was baled,

1847
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 2: the fact he had glasses. We didn't have glasses, then

1848
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 2: he got glasses. In other words, I just wondered to myself,

1849
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 2: isn't it interesting we can have these conversations seemingly perfectly happily.

1850
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 2: One that we appear when I say where, it's Australia,

1851
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 2: not us, But there's no reason to believe we wouldn't

1852
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 2: be just as superficial. One that we could appear to

1853
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 2: be as superficial as that too. Other words, just literally

1854
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 2: look at a person and going no, I don't like

1855
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 2: the look of you, so therefore I'm not going to

1856
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,799
Speaker 2: vote for you. The fact he might be a genius

1857
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 2: I don't know doesn't come into it. Second point is

1858
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 2: if I had gone So if it was a woman

1859
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 2: and I got Karmala Harris is going to win because

1860
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 2: she's a bit poorky and she's ugly. Now if I

1861
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 2: said that, what would well, look at Sam's face, I

1862
01:25:56,439 --> 01:26:00,080
Speaker 2: mean exactly, so it would be an unconscionable that you

1863
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 2: could discuss the looks of a woman, whereas you seemingly

1864
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 2: happily discuss the looks of a man, and no one

1865
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 2: seems to kill It's nice the looks, though, is it?

1866
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 18: Well, there's no, there's a demeanor that sort of goes

1867
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 18: along with it.

1868
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 2: So she's fat and she's ugly, but there's a demeanor

1869
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 2: that goes along with it as well. Does that give

1870
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 2: me out of it?

1871
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 9: I mean, I certainly.

1872
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 18: I don't think I could either get behind him A

1873
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 18: ball guy with glasses I don't know, exacted by the year.

1874
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 2: But see, I wouldn't vote for you either way, but

1875
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:29,560
Speaker 2: then you know you're a different story. One hundred and

1876
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 2: fifteen British one. That was the other thing that fascinated

1877
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 2: me over the week. Is it unusual to have the

1878
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 2: oldest woman in the world or the oldest person in

1879
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 2: the world a pom? You don't think is Palm's as

1880
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: long lived?

1881
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 9: Do you?

1882
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:43,839
Speaker 2: I mean nuns in southern America, parts of Japan's.

1883
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 18: An old lady they found up on the hills in Italy,

1884
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 18: No doing.

1885
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 2: The local village she's been living in. She's in the

1886
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,839
Speaker 2: old person's home. Now, but she's one hundred and fifteen

1887
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 2: in fact, as of Friday, one hundred and fifteen years,

1888
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty two days. So let's call it

1889
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 2: virtually one hundred and sixteen. Ethel's the name, of course

1890
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 2: it is. Everyone was born then was called Ethel, weren't they?

1891
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:09,919
Speaker 2: So the Brazilian nun told you sister Lucas died last Wednesday.

1892
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 2: So Ethel, who was born the twenty first of August

1893
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 2: nineteen oh nine, last surviving subject of Edward the seventh.

1894
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 2: That's impressive. She gets to be the oldest person, so

1895
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 2: unusual that Brits lived that lot.

1896
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:25,759
Speaker 18: Do you reckon if you're like the third oldest person,

1897
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 18: do you sit there every day? No looking through the obituaries,

1898
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 18: just going today?

1899
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 2: It could be dad, you'd run a book, you go

1900
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 2: odds on. She didn't look well, you know, the nun.

1901
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 2: She didn't look well. I think I'm quit. I think

1902
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 2: I'm quit. I said, I think I'm quins in here

1903
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 2: because you'd be deaf. Fin it's away.

1904
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: From trending now with chimis Wells book in your Flu

1905
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 1: Vaccination today.

1906
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 2: Right over before the race starts. Of course, what they

1907
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 2: do apart from a martin Brundle. Did you watch the

1908
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 2: muttin Brundle, Gridwart? Was there anyone famous part from Gordon Ramsey?

1909
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 2: Does Gordon Ramsey go to every single race?

1910
01:27:58,920 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 20: Well?

1911
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 18: He caters them so well? I think, yeah, he said

1912
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 18: talk to Jerry Brackheimer. Of course Jerry is there all

1913
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 18: the time, but he's directed that if my movie is

1914
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 18: coming out shortly.

1915
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 2: So he's permanently. There was Michael Douglas there. He's the

1916
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 2: other one who's there permanently.

1917
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 9: I didn't see him.

1918
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,879
Speaker 18: He tried to talk to Evander Holyfield, and Evander Hollyfield

1919
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 18: didn't seem to know quite where he was.

1920
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 2: That's a that's a shame. Is that bought her? What's

1921
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 2: his name? Gone off? Bordorella's gone off? Another safety car?

1922
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 2: Where am I playing some music?

1923
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 13: Listen to this.

1924
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:36,839
Speaker 2: From Miami quality?

1925
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 6: Right?

1926
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 23: What's so proudly? We hat don'tlight? Lastly, who's but stripes

1927
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 23: and bride stars through the pairless?

1928
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 2: Doesn't make any difference if I tell you he's fifteen we.

1929
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 23: Was were are so Glandle.

1930
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 2: My observation is he's not quite as good as the

1931
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 2: jingle about cleaning a shower.

1932
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 9: That we run.

1933
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:18,600
Speaker 23: Okay, pro through the night that our flag was.

1934
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 2: But he's a talent. He's also he's done some work

1935
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 2: at the Miami Dolphins, so he's at home because this

1936
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 2: is raced of course, where the Miami Dolphins play, so

1937
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 2: they've probably found him in the changing room and said

1938
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 2: anyone can sing, and he goes, yeah, I can sing.

1939
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 22: With the jet.

1940
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:43,719
Speaker 2: Here we go free and back tomorrow, Happy Days.

1941
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,640
Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

1942
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 1: news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow

1943
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.