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Speaker 2: Hell are you great, New Zealanders? And welcome to the

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Speaker 2: Mountain Tyler Afternoons podcast for Thursday, the twelfth of December

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Speaker 2: of the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty four. Pretty

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Speaker 2: heavy show today, so prepare for that. We're talking a

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Speaker 2: lot about addiction with myth and fetamine consumption doubling in

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Speaker 2: the final quarter of twenty twenty four, but the number

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Speaker 2: of users not necessarily going up. So the users we

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Speaker 2: have have doubled their intake, which is quite terrifying. So

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Speaker 2: we had some really serious but quite quite good I

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Speaker 2: thought chats around addiction with people.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely a lot of brave people calling in to share

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Speaker 3: their stories. Also, the time Person of the Year.

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Speaker 2: Turns out a lot of our listeners love a bit

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Speaker 2: of Rogan and I love a bit of Trump, or

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Speaker 2: little bit of Rogan, so as you'd imagine, it was split.

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Speaker 2: So that's an interesting chat. And then we ask the question,

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Speaker 2: is it possible to get through the Christmas break and

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Speaker 2: keep some keep you not pertunding to a big fat

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Speaker 2: pig so and look, we had a celebrity ring in,

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Speaker 2: a celebrity text in, and then we rang them up

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Speaker 2: with his thoughts on it. Who is that Celibertary find

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Speaker 2: out at the end of the show. But look, make

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Speaker 2: sure you subscribe and follow and set to download and such.

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Speaker 2: And thank you so much for tuning into the Manta

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Speaker 2: and Tyler podcast in my taste of KEYWHI you see busy?

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Speaker 1: Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie

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Speaker 1: and Tyner Adams afternoons on news Talk Sebby.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you. Hope you're having a great Thursday afternoon.

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Speaker 3: We certainly are get a met.

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Speaker 2: Can I say something controversial because I'm not sure what

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Speaker 2: but here in Auckland it's gray and rainy, and for me,

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Speaker 2: I like that it's Christmas y. I find it rainy

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Speaker 2: and pressing, kind of Christmasy.

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Speaker 3: A little bit of great for Christmas.

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Speaker 2: I was looking at my Christmas tree last night and

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Speaker 2: it was raining outside and I was thinking, there's something

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't want to be like this

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Speaker 2: But there's just you can enjoy a little bit of

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Speaker 3: Is it something a little bit British about it? Because

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of with you. I like a good thunderstorm

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Speaker 3: and Christmas time, not the whole Christmas time, but it's

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Speaker 3: something a little bit like a little white Christmas.

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Speaker 2: A little bit British, a little bit where I grew

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Speaker 2: up in Terneden.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, good times. Right onto the show today after

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Speaker 3: three o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Is it possible to eat healthy over Christmas? Could you

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of people across the country right

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Speaker 2: So is it possible? Can you actually run a fit

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Speaker 3: We're looking for strategies after two after three o'clock rather

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Speaker 3: after two o'clock time. Person of the Year, the magazine

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Speaker 3: There's a few others in the mix as well.

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Speaker 2: So you know, as famously out of Hitler won it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're going to put that question to you

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Speaker 3: who should be the Time Person of the Year this year.

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Speaker 3: But right now, let's have a talk about methan phetamine.

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Speaker 3: New water testing results from across New Zealand shows a

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Speaker 3: significant increase in methan fetamine and cocaine use over the

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Speaker 2: The key here is that they're not aware of more users.

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Speaker 2: So this suggests that the same people are using twice

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Speaker 2: we want to talk about how you get off meth

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Speaker 2: people getting on it and then doubling their intake. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: So I mean, how do you go about that? I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's an incredibly tough question, I understand, but there's some

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Speaker 3: So this came from the Drug Foundation Chief executive Sarah Helm,

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Speaker 3: and she mentioned this program called Taata Ordering. It's up

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Speaker 3: it's had many evaluation reports. It's found that there's been

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Speaker 3: the people the programs help. They say for every one

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Speaker 3: in Northland, and Sarah Helm and the Drug Foundation are

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Speaker 2: So the difference in this is that means that officers

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Speaker 2: So that's a radical change, it is, and that and look,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how that exactly works, but you see

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I like the idea of more rehab, but

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Speaker 3: what worked for your family and is it the right

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Speaker 3: Is that something that can work too lower the harm

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Speaker 3: from you on this one. Oh eight one hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It is

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons you

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four, US Talk said, be it's a

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Speaker 2: We're talking about methnphetamine and the increased rates in it

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter, I believe twenty twenty four. Anyway, Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: we'll get back to that. We'll get to that in

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Speaker 2: a second. I had this amusing, amusing exchange in nine two.

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Speaker 2: I thought, I thought I'd like to share text came through.

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Speaker 2: The obvious topic is the fairies. But you're too scared

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Speaker 2: to upset your right wing listeners, right, And I responded, haha,

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Speaker 2: not the conspiracy you think. We did one and a

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Speaker 2: half hours on the fairies yesterday. But nice try Matt.

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Speaker 2: And then the response came back fair enough.

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Speaker 3: It's a nice way to in that exchange. Now back

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Speaker 3: to methamphetamine. So we've asked the question what works, and

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Speaker 3: we know that's a massive question, but clearly it is

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Speaker 3: a scourge in New Zealand and destroys a lot of

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Speaker 3: families and individuals. So what works. If you've had an

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Speaker 3: evaluation reports would show that it is somewhat successful with

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Speaker 3: people the program has helped, they reckon. For every one

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Speaker 3: How are you this afternoon?

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Speaker 8: I'm great, Thanks?

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Speaker 3: Really nice to chat with you. So you are someone

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, recovering miss ansetamine ic. I've been cleaned for

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Speaker 8: I got pretty bad, I was. My addiction led me

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Speaker 8: I was getting arrested all the time. I had a

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Speaker 2: Who did you put your hand up to.

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Speaker 8: The police The last time I got arrested, I admitted

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Speaker 8: I was an edit they produced I called my mum,

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Speaker 8: so I rang my mom from the police Doyles, and

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Speaker 8: I said, I have a drug problem and I want help.

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Speaker 8: My mom straightaway rang up here. We favor to withdraw

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Speaker 8: all of her retirement money to pay for me to

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Speaker 8: go to a private rehab and Upperhart because we do recovery.

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Speaker 8: I think she knew, but I just kept denying it.

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Speaker 8: It was pretty obvious I was in and out of

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Speaker 10: On my last chance.

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Speaker 8: So I kept getting told I'm going to go to prison,

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Speaker 8: It was for me, it was always boys. I was

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Speaker 2: You'd have to deal with you'd have to start dealing

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Speaker 8: But I guess to be honest, I was probably one

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Speaker 8: So this that's why I chose this specific rehab because

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Speaker 3: Do you count yourself lucky that you were able to

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Speaker 14: I think it was God.

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Speaker 11: Did you?

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Speaker 8: I think it was a miracle?

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Speaker 2: And did you so? I mean, if you don't mind

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Speaker 2: asking Beck, how much was that course? How much did

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Speaker 8: I think it cost my mum eighteen and a half thousand, Okay,

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Speaker 8: but this was four years ago. That's for four weeks,

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Speaker 2: So you come out of this rehab and this is

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Speaker 8: I pretty much had. I've got a really good family,

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Speaker 8: I was allowed in absence on my bracelet to go

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Speaker 2: Well, bet good on you, and this is an example

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Speaker 2: much for sharing that with us. That's you're a really

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Speaker 3: So thank you so much, Thank you, Thank you, Beck,

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Speaker 15: This has been reported that Nikola Willis has actually hammered

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Speaker 1: Tell us how much money you've got and said it

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Speaker 7: Now why would I possibly do that?

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Speaker 1: To rush out of the same What we're going to buy

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Speaker 11: And we're not going to make those of the mistakes.

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Speaker 2: With Bailey's Real Estate on News talks 'b afternoon.

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Speaker 3: It is twenty eight past one. Plenty of texts coming

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Speaker 3: through on nine two ninety two.

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Speaker 2: I would like in meth addiction to stripping a layer

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this one here took my friend two years

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Speaker 3: to stop a five year addiction. But you have to

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Speaker 3: want to stop others. It's almost impossible. In comparison, stopping

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Speaker 3: nine two ninety two. Get a tim Hello mate, how

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Speaker 3: are you good? What's your thoughts on on what works

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Speaker 13: Okay? Well my thoughts the last course at best or

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Speaker 13: beg becky.

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Speaker 11: Okay.

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Speaker 13: It's awesome that she got her life sorted out and

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Speaker 11: That's really nice.

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Speaker 13: I just wonder if she spares a thought for the

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Speaker 2: Well, I think she definitely has gone through a lot

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, yeah, as one as she just keeps reflecting on

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Speaker 13: really wanted to do something, maybe she could reach out

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Speaker 13: and you know, see if you think of those people

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Speaker 13: need a hand.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think that the thing with her is

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Speaker 2: look after a kid. And the past is the past,

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Speaker 2: the president is the present, in the future is the future,

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Speaker 2: and so she's reckoned with what she's done in the past,

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Speaker 2: and she's she's paid the price, and she's she's moving

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Speaker 2: moving forward. If we can get one person out of addiction,

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Speaker 13: Absolutely. One of the books was good. Just a shame

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean that's all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well think if you called him yeah, cheers Tim.

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: of call we've got. The headlines coming up then we'll

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Speaker 3: pick this back up. It is bang on one point thirty.

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Speaker 14: You talk, said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

446
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Speaker 14: no trouble with a blue bubble. The opposition's lamb basting

447
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Speaker 14: the government's ferry plans, saying it won't deliver what the

448
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Speaker 14: previous contract would have planned and will end up costing more.

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Speaker 14: The government is appointed a Minister for Rail and is

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Speaker 14: setting up a company to buy new fairies for use.

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Speaker 14: In twenty twenty nine, thieves have stolen slides, climbing structures, ladders, bridges,

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Speaker 14: blocks and a circular swing from a Henderson childcare center

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Speaker 14: in Auckland. A firefighter's union says bullying within fire and

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Speaker 14: emergency bird staff self esteem and cohesion after the Chief

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Speaker 14: executive's end of years speech spoke of bullying, harassment, sexism

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Speaker 14: and racism in the service. Christ Urge Police are appealing

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Speaker 14: for witnesses to an assault in Sumner's Godly Head, a

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Speaker 14: car park. This happened on Sunday afternoon after a minor

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Speaker 14: car crash. The Environmental Protection Authority seized three tons of

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Speaker 14: illegally important hydrofluorocarbon gases, which are limited because of their

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Speaker 14: effects on the environment. NCEEA is flawed. It's time to

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Speaker 14: end this experiment on our teenagers. Read the full column

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Speaker 14: at enzid Herald Premium. Now back to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. We're talking about what works

465
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Speaker 3: when it comes to methamphetamine addiction. And had a great

466
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Speaker 3: call from Beck who was a recovering addict and got

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Speaker 3: herself out of that life and got herself into a

468
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Speaker 3: trades building apprenticeship. But love to hear your stories on

469
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Speaker 3: our eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It's on the back

470
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Speaker 3: of increased methamphetamine use in the last quarter of this year,

471
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Speaker 3: almost double and the twist there was it's not more users,

472
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Speaker 3: it's just users having more meetamine. Susan. How are you

473
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Speaker 3: this afternoon?

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Speaker 17: Oh I'm good.

475
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Speaker 16: Thanks.

476
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Speaker 17: I just wanted to like take my head off to

477
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Speaker 17: that young woman before my husband got uh my ex

478
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Speaker 17: husband got He got addicted to it, ended up what

479
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Speaker 17: do you call it, making it got involved with the gangs.

480
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Speaker 17: I was a little manager in a school. I've never

481
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Speaker 17: had anything to do with drugs.

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Speaker 6: He was.

483
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Speaker 17: A sportsman, played for a New Zealand team. He uh

484
00:22:53,613 --> 00:22:57,773
Speaker 17: always was coming home late. You know, there was always

485
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Speaker 17: an excuse for him not to be at home. It

486
00:23:02,213 --> 00:23:07,653
Speaker 17: destroyed our family, It destroyed our marriage. I had gangs

487
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Speaker 17: at gang members at my door demanding money. He just

488
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Speaker 17: bled our family dry, stood by and went through rehab,

489
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Speaker 17: stayed together for a while after that. The effect had

490
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Speaker 17: on me and my kids. It was from not phenomenal,

491
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Speaker 17: the violence, the threats. In the end, I I got

492
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Speaker 17: away from him, but that drug altered my my husband's brain,

493
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Speaker 17: and after he'd come out of rehab, he was not

494
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Speaker 17: the same as the man I married. And the final

495
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Speaker 17: straw in the actual marriage was I found out it

496
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Speaker 17: after he'd come out of habit started interfering with my

497
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Speaker 17: oldest daughter. That was a bridge too far. I just

498
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Speaker 17: want people to realize that the drug addiction itself is.

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Speaker 4: So day life.

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Speaker 12: They cheat.

501
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Speaker 17: They will say they want to get out of drug

502
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Speaker 17: addiction for just to keep their family and lifestyle going.

503
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Speaker 17: But they've got to want to get out of it,

504
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Speaker 17: they've got to want to go through rehab. It's extensive

505
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Speaker 17: and more government funding needs to go interront.

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Speaker 2: So so rehab didn't didn't work for And I'm sorry

507
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Speaker 2: for your story. That's that's something that no one should

508
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Speaker 2: have to go.

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Speaker 17: Well, he went through, he went through higher ground and

510
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Speaker 17: six months rehab course. But even after that and after

511
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Speaker 17: we've got stuff together, he just was still involved with it.

512
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Speaker 11: So yeah, and.

513
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Speaker 2: Like to go right back to the start if you

514
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Speaker 2: don't mind, because he sounds like he was a functioning

515
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Speaker 2: member of society and was doing doing well. You said

516
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Speaker 2: he was a member of a New Zealand team. How

517
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Speaker 2: did he end up getting involved in meth?

518
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Speaker 7: End?

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Speaker 17: Feed me through work, through work, and then he like

520
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Speaker 17: he I went to the bank one day, the accounts

521
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Speaker 17: has been singed out, shares has been sold. It was

522
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Speaker 17: all drug debt. And he just got deeper and deeper

523
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Speaker 17: and deeper into it. And these people, if you owe

524
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Speaker 17: the money, don't give a ship. They will harm you.

525
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Speaker 17: They will harm your family. It's it's it's not it's

526
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Speaker 17: not good. He has brain changed, you know. I got

527
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Speaker 17: to the point, I mean, the friend was a retractable

528
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Speaker 17: baton in my own home when I said I was

529
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Speaker 17: going to leave him once. Yeah, it takes a lot

530
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Speaker 17: of courage for families to walk away. And the only

531
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Speaker 17: way to be clear is it's to leave and cut

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Speaker 17: them completely off until they're at that point where they

533
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Speaker 17: want to actually make that decision to.

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Speaker 11: Quit for themselves necessary.

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Speaker 2: And sorry you continue, I'm.

536
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Speaker 17: Just going to say otherwise, there's just no point.

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Speaker 2: Now, Susan. This was a terrible situation that was a

538
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Speaker 2: force forced upon you, and you would have had no

539
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Speaker 2: way of knowing how to deal with it and would

540
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Speaker 2: have had to have just and I'm sure you loved

541
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Speaker 2: the man and just kept on getting hurt and hurt

542
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Speaker 2: over time. But being and often we don't talk about

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Speaker 2: the you know, when we talk about the addict, we

544
00:27:00,333 --> 00:27:02,533
Speaker 2: sometimes forget to talk about the damage that has done

545
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Speaker 2: to the people that are around them. But is there

546
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Speaker 2: anything any advice that you give now that you've been

547
00:27:08,813 --> 00:27:13,133
Speaker 2: through that two people? When when to know when to to?

548
00:27:13,893 --> 00:27:15,373
Speaker 2: You know, you said you had to cut them off

549
00:27:15,413 --> 00:27:17,173
Speaker 2: to know when that time is And.

550
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Speaker 17: As soon as you hear drugs mess, that's the time

551
00:27:23,653 --> 00:27:29,573
Speaker 17: to pack up your kids and walk until that person

552
00:27:30,213 --> 00:27:35,453
Speaker 17: has been through a rehab program. He went through community

553
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Speaker 17: al cohol and drugs, which we walk in they say, oh,

554
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Speaker 17: how much have.

555
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Speaker 18: You done today?

556
00:27:42,253 --> 00:27:45,853
Speaker 17: Are you poor boy? Hopefully you'll do better next week

557
00:27:45,893 --> 00:27:49,653
Speaker 17: and and that what he did that initially to appease

558
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Speaker 17: me that he was getting some treatment, but in actual

559
00:27:53,973 --> 00:27:56,213
Speaker 17: fact he was getting more and more and more into

560
00:27:56,413 --> 00:28:03,293
Speaker 17: the drugs, into that scene. And particularly if you if

561
00:28:03,333 --> 00:28:10,373
Speaker 17: you're a family and there's children, nothing to work the

562
00:28:10,413 --> 00:28:14,973
Speaker 17: safety of yourself and those kiss. So for anyone who's

563
00:28:15,013 --> 00:28:19,613
Speaker 17: got that, unless that person's made a decision to quit

564
00:28:19,693 --> 00:28:23,173
Speaker 17: and has got a references around them, was this would

565
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Speaker 17: get the hell out of there?

566
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Speaker 3: Was there support when you had to make their call, Susan,

567
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Speaker 3: Was there support for you and your family?

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Speaker 17: There's actually not that much support out there for families.

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Speaker 16: I went to.

570
00:28:38,933 --> 00:28:43,053
Speaker 17: This NA which is narcotic synonymous.

571
00:28:42,413 --> 00:28:45,733
Speaker 18: That they run the family things, so you got a

572
00:28:45,773 --> 00:28:49,133
Speaker 18: bit of report from there. I was very lucky in

573
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Speaker 18: that my family was very support.

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Speaker 17: My dad was the the policeman.

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Speaker 10: I'm not stupid.

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Speaker 19: I knew for.

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Speaker 17: Being I knew quite a lot of avenues. I had

578
00:29:06,853 --> 00:29:10,973
Speaker 17: a good lawyer. I got to protection order to put

579
00:29:11,013 --> 00:29:17,493
Speaker 17: in place with me and my family and protected them

580
00:29:17,533 --> 00:29:19,813
Speaker 17: as much as I can. But you know, this guy

581
00:29:19,973 --> 00:29:24,293
Speaker 17: threatened to take my kids out of school, like kidnapped

582
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Speaker 17: from school. I had the police at the school so

583
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Speaker 17: I could uplift them and take them home, and then

584
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Speaker 17: I put them in another school. I mean it was

585
00:29:33,653 --> 00:29:35,013
Speaker 17: pretty serious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's an interrrible thing to go through.

587
00:29:37,093 --> 00:29:40,293
Speaker 2: But how's how's your life now, Susan Being on the

588
00:29:40,333 --> 00:29:42,373
Speaker 2: other side of it, Well, I.

589
00:29:42,373 --> 00:29:48,413
Speaker 17: Took my kids. I eventually divorced him, he did prison time, married,

590
00:29:49,293 --> 00:29:53,813
Speaker 17: got a great husband and life goes on and life

591
00:29:53,853 --> 00:29:56,373
Speaker 17: will go on for family even if they're.

592
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Speaker 12: Not with that person.

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Speaker 2: And you don't have to share this information with me

594
00:30:00,173 --> 00:30:02,413
Speaker 2: if you don't want to. But what has happened to

595
00:30:02,453 --> 00:30:03,213
Speaker 2: your ex husband?

596
00:30:05,653 --> 00:30:12,813
Speaker 17: He got sent to prison for about the fix shares

597
00:30:14,133 --> 00:30:18,413
Speaker 17: and somewhere in the South Island and that's the last

598
00:30:18,493 --> 00:30:18,893
Speaker 17: I heard.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm I'm so sorry to hear what you've

600
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Speaker 2: been through, Susan. But I thank you so much for

601
00:30:23,533 --> 00:30:24,973
Speaker 2: sharing that story with us. Yeah.

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Speaker 20: Amen.

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call.

604
00:30:27,893 --> 00:30:29,253
Speaker 3: It is eighteen to two.

605
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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, to the big trends

606
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Speaker 1: and everything in between. Ma Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons

607
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Speaker 1: you for twenty twenty four us talk.

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Speaker 3: Say'd be good afternoon. It's quarter to two. We're talking

609
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Speaker 3: about what works when it comes to meth and beetamine addiction.

610
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Speaker 3: On the back of the use increasing quite substantially in

611
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Speaker 3: the last quarter of the year. And how are you, hi? Hi?

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Speaker 3: Now you want to talk about your son's journey with addiction.

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Speaker 10: AI, Yes, yeah, yes, my son was addicted to mess

614
00:31:08,493 --> 00:31:13,933
Speaker 10: or probably for about eight years. He's he's now clean,

615
00:31:14,813 --> 00:31:19,653
Speaker 10: but it's it was an absolute road of hell. And

616
00:31:20,133 --> 00:31:25,573
Speaker 10: I think if anybody thinks that it's a socioeconomical issue, there,

617
00:31:26,853 --> 00:31:34,973
Speaker 10: it's an illusion. This effects right across all communities. It

618
00:31:35,053 --> 00:31:38,373
Speaker 10: is it is the devil, and it changes them and

619
00:31:38,413 --> 00:31:45,013
Speaker 10: they become somebody who just don't recognize.

620
00:31:44,253 --> 00:31:48,453
Speaker 2: So sorry, no, no, you continue.

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Speaker 10: Sorry, I was just saying that it puts families through

622
00:31:52,973 --> 00:31:58,973
Speaker 10: absolute hell. He can't there's no words to describe the hell.

623
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Speaker 2: Actually, so your son was on did you say that

624
00:32:02,533 --> 00:32:05,773
Speaker 2: was eight years an addict? How did he get around?

625
00:32:05,973 --> 00:32:08,653
Speaker 2: How did he how did he get off off the stuff?

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00:32:10,213 --> 00:32:13,733
Speaker 10: Well, he's not really.

627
00:32:15,013 --> 00:32:15,293
Speaker 19: Peace.

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00:32:15,973 --> 00:32:19,733
Speaker 10: There's a lot of people out there that can't get

629
00:32:19,733 --> 00:32:23,733
Speaker 10: off it because they just don't have any support. And

630
00:32:23,853 --> 00:32:28,773
Speaker 10: these people that have addicted to mess want to get

631
00:32:28,773 --> 00:32:34,173
Speaker 10: off it, but they must have support. And our son

632
00:32:34,453 --> 00:32:39,813
Speaker 10: was lucky enough support from his immediate family, but there

633
00:32:39,933 --> 00:32:45,133
Speaker 10: was judgment on the outer family and so the immediate

634
00:32:45,173 --> 00:32:51,133
Speaker 10: family stood by him without enabling. That was that was

635
00:32:51,173 --> 00:32:55,293
Speaker 10: one of the biggest things, is to try and love

636
00:32:55,333 --> 00:32:59,173
Speaker 10: them but not enable them. You've got to keep your

637
00:32:59,173 --> 00:33:04,133
Speaker 10: distance while they're using. But he wanted to come clean,

638
00:33:04,693 --> 00:33:10,693
Speaker 10: and we also spend eighteen thousand and put him through rehab,

639
00:33:12,013 --> 00:33:20,173
Speaker 10: but he did relapse, so we lost him again. Then

640
00:33:20,973 --> 00:33:25,373
Speaker 10: he decided that he was going to try again. This

641
00:33:25,653 --> 00:33:33,853
Speaker 10: time he had a female friend who was an addict,

642
00:33:34,093 --> 00:33:38,533
Speaker 10: and she took him in, which was great because we

643
00:33:38,533 --> 00:33:41,493
Speaker 10: were exhausted and we just felt we could have him

644
00:33:41,493 --> 00:33:44,973
Speaker 10: in our house and we couldn't before rehab again. So

645
00:33:45,013 --> 00:33:47,813
Speaker 10: she took him in and she knew how to deal

646
00:33:47,813 --> 00:33:53,533
Speaker 10: with them, because you know, she she knows how it

647
00:33:53,573 --> 00:33:56,133
Speaker 10: all works, and she sees him when the cheeps them

648
00:33:56,133 --> 00:33:57,053
Speaker 10: and he dies.

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Speaker 6: And lets.

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Speaker 10: He came right. He did come right, But even when

651
00:34:04,613 --> 00:34:08,013
Speaker 10: he relapsed, he knew that we still loved him and

652
00:34:08,093 --> 00:34:13,973
Speaker 10: we all believed in that he will get through it

653
00:34:14,692 --> 00:34:18,693
Speaker 10: and come back to us. And I guess if we

654
00:34:19,533 --> 00:34:25,172
Speaker 10: ostracized them and didn't have anything to do with him,

655
00:34:25,493 --> 00:34:26,933
Speaker 10: I don't think we would have got him back.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned before and that this is across all sectors.

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Speaker 3: Of society. It doesn't really matter about demographics. It's a

658
00:34:34,213 --> 00:34:38,692
Speaker 3: scourge whether you're rich, poor, whatever. Did your son have

659
00:34:38,773 --> 00:34:40,493
Speaker 3: a good job at the time that he got addicted

660
00:34:40,533 --> 00:34:42,853
Speaker 3: to this stuff. Did he have a future that was

661
00:34:42,853 --> 00:34:43,613
Speaker 3: looking quite bright?

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Speaker 10: Well, he was a scene when he found Yes, but

663
00:34:52,853 --> 00:35:00,053
Speaker 10: he was smoking marijuana at school. My son is the

664
00:35:00,133 --> 00:35:07,733
Speaker 10: FlexIt and ADHD, so he had struggled at school. School

665
00:35:07,773 --> 00:35:11,533
Speaker 10: failed in a lot of ways. Really when I look back,

666
00:35:12,413 --> 00:35:19,573
Speaker 10: and I think we didn't as parents, didn't realize the

667
00:35:19,613 --> 00:35:23,253
Speaker 10: trouble that he was in them. And I guess I

668
00:35:23,293 --> 00:35:28,172
Speaker 10: think if the schools, there's more than one came to

669
00:35:28,253 --> 00:35:33,212
Speaker 10: us and said, lock, this is the situation, we may

670
00:35:33,253 --> 00:35:37,973
Speaker 10: have been able to be able to, you know, address it.

671
00:35:38,373 --> 00:35:42,613
Speaker 10: Before he really got into the heavy drugs. The self

672
00:35:42,693 --> 00:35:48,653
Speaker 10: esteem was not great either. So there's those those factors

673
00:35:48,773 --> 00:36:00,652
Speaker 10: which is common amongst our users. Troubled but lost. I'm

674
00:36:00,693 --> 00:36:03,853
Speaker 10: not I'm not I'm generalizing, but yeah.

675
00:36:03,733 --> 00:36:04,053
Speaker 13: He was.

676
00:36:04,173 --> 00:36:08,652
Speaker 10: He was only eighteen and he's now you do one.

677
00:36:08,853 --> 00:36:12,413
Speaker 10: So he's and he's now got a sarmon. He's ready

678
00:36:12,693 --> 00:36:16,413
Speaker 10: put his last put his last round. But he does

679
00:36:16,533 --> 00:36:21,173
Speaker 10: have the odds against him because of this Diplexia and

680
00:36:21,333 --> 00:36:23,533
Speaker 10: ADHD now.

681
00:36:23,413 --> 00:36:26,213
Speaker 2: And before you were saying you've got to you know,

682
00:36:26,733 --> 00:36:30,053
Speaker 2: as family members, you want to help, but not enable.

683
00:36:30,093 --> 00:36:34,293
Speaker 2: What do you mean by enable? You're an addict?

684
00:36:35,653 --> 00:36:38,813
Speaker 10: Well, an addict is a very good at life and

685
00:36:39,013 --> 00:36:42,293
Speaker 10: coming up with stories. They will do and say anything.

686
00:36:43,453 --> 00:36:47,413
Speaker 10: And when you love someone, you've sort of you fall

687
00:36:47,493 --> 00:36:52,013
Speaker 10: for them and to beond mom, can I have fifty bucks?

688
00:36:53,293 --> 00:36:59,253
Speaker 10: You know, and give me some story? And you know

689
00:36:59,413 --> 00:37:02,853
Speaker 10: you just you just made the mistakes of helping them

690
00:37:02,853 --> 00:37:05,653
Speaker 10: when you weren't actually helping them. You're enabling their behavior,

691
00:37:06,053 --> 00:37:07,212
Speaker 10: You're enabling them to.

692
00:37:07,173 --> 00:37:12,813
Speaker 3: Be Oh and we might have just lost you. But

693
00:37:12,853 --> 00:37:14,613
Speaker 3: thank you very much for giving us a call. If

694
00:37:14,613 --> 00:37:17,573
Speaker 3: you're still listening, it is nine minutes to two o

695
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Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Love to hear your story

696
00:37:20,293 --> 00:37:20,813
Speaker 3: as well.

697
00:37:20,973 --> 00:37:26,573
Speaker 1: Back in the month, Matteeth, Tyler Adams taking your calls

698
00:37:26,613 --> 00:37:29,093
Speaker 1: on oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty mad Eth and

699
00:37:29,213 --> 00:37:31,933
Speaker 1: Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talks EDB.

700
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Speaker 3: News Talks ed BE. It is six minutes to two,

701
00:37:36,053 --> 00:37:38,093
Speaker 3: so we're going to carry this on after two o'clock

702
00:37:38,093 --> 00:37:41,373
Speaker 3: and hearing some pretty horrendous but brave stories coming through

703
00:37:41,413 --> 00:37:43,573
Speaker 3: our eight hundred eighty ten eighty, and we want to

704
00:37:43,573 --> 00:37:45,733
Speaker 3: hear yours. I mean, clearly, it is a massive issue

705
00:37:45,733 --> 00:37:46,172
Speaker 3: out there.

706
00:37:46,453 --> 00:37:48,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a lot of people questioning, you know,

707
00:37:49,093 --> 00:37:54,692
Speaker 2: so it sounds like, you know, rehab is the option

708
00:37:54,773 --> 00:37:56,293
Speaker 2: that gets people out the other side of it, if

709
00:37:56,333 --> 00:37:57,733
Speaker 2: they will, if anything will.

710
00:37:58,093 --> 00:37:58,373
Speaker 11: Yeah.

711
00:37:58,373 --> 00:38:00,692
Speaker 2: But you know, the success stories that we've heard around

712
00:38:00,773 --> 00:38:03,853
Speaker 2: rehab in the last hour are family members putting up

713
00:38:03,893 --> 00:38:05,453
Speaker 2: the money for private rehab.

714
00:38:05,533 --> 00:38:05,973
Speaker 3: Yeah.

715
00:38:06,093 --> 00:38:10,533
Speaker 2: There are government courses as well that we're talking about,

716
00:38:10,533 --> 00:38:12,212
Speaker 2: this one up north Tyler.

717
00:38:12,053 --> 00:38:14,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tiata Ordunger, and there has been a call to

718
00:38:15,013 --> 00:38:18,173
Speaker 3: roll that out across New Zealand. And the more that

719
00:38:18,213 --> 00:38:20,212
Speaker 3: I hear these stories coming through, the more that I'm

720
00:38:20,253 --> 00:38:22,732
Speaker 3: thinking that is a great idea. We should absolutely put

721
00:38:22,773 --> 00:38:25,893
Speaker 3: resources in to having these rehab programs up and down

722
00:38:25,933 --> 00:38:26,413
Speaker 3: the country.

723
00:38:26,453 --> 00:38:27,333
Speaker 13: And just a.

724
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Speaker 3: Reminder that the evaluation report for this particular program that

725
00:38:30,533 --> 00:38:34,253
Speaker 3: started in twenty seventeen, it saw a thirty four percent

726
00:38:34,293 --> 00:38:37,253
Speaker 3: reduction and harm from offending among the people the programs helped.

727
00:38:37,573 --> 00:38:39,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's a lot of people on the text

728
00:38:39,533 --> 00:38:41,613
Speaker 2: machine coming through a nine two nine two that would

729
00:38:41,613 --> 00:38:44,333
Speaker 2: one hundred percent disagree with you Tyler. Yeah, Hi, Matt,

730
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Speaker 2: Why does everyone think the government needs to fund rehab?

731
00:38:46,773 --> 00:38:49,493
Speaker 2: No one forced them onto the drugs. That's from AJ

732
00:38:49,653 --> 00:38:52,453
Speaker 2: and that's typical of a lot of the text coming

733
00:38:52,453 --> 00:38:52,973
Speaker 2: through yep.

734
00:38:53,533 --> 00:38:57,053
Speaker 3: And if you disagree with the idea of takspayer funded rehab,

735
00:38:57,093 --> 00:38:58,613
Speaker 3: we want to hear from you as well. We want

736
00:38:58,653 --> 00:39:01,773
Speaker 3: to hear your rationale behind that. But my opinion is,

737
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Speaker 3: if it's going to make any sort of dentt and

738
00:39:04,253 --> 00:39:06,652
Speaker 3: the methamphetamine problem we've gone in this country, it is

739
00:39:06,693 --> 00:39:09,213
Speaker 3: worth a shot. It is worth investing that money in.

740
00:39:09,613 --> 00:39:12,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, and myth and fetamine consumption doubled in the last

741
00:39:12,533 --> 00:39:15,733
Speaker 2: quarter of twenty twenty four, so we have a serious

742
00:39:15,733 --> 00:39:16,533
Speaker 2: problem in this country.

743
00:39:16,813 --> 00:39:19,652
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

744
00:39:19,733 --> 00:39:21,373
Speaker 3: We want to hear from you on this one. Of course,

745
00:39:21,453 --> 00:39:23,693
Speaker 3: nine two nine two is the text number new Sport

746
00:39:23,733 --> 00:39:25,493
Speaker 3: and weather on its way. I hope you're having a

747
00:39:25,493 --> 00:39:28,533
Speaker 3: great afternoon. Thank you.

748
00:39:31,453 --> 00:39:36,933
Speaker 1: Make it feel like Christmas.

749
00:39:38,933 --> 00:39:44,693
Speaker 21: I'm never not final love like this, but I'm fund

750
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Speaker 21: Real're on the very first kiss. Want Thanks you make

751
00:39:52,453 --> 00:40:09,373
Speaker 21: it feel like Christmases. You make it me about Christmas.

752
00:40:09,453 --> 00:40:11,253
Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler.

753
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Speaker 7: Talking with you all.

754
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Speaker 1: Afternoon. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons New for twenty

755
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Speaker 1: twenty four News Talk ZIB.

756
00:40:20,853 --> 00:40:24,493
Speaker 3: Good afternoons you seven pass two and we're having a

757
00:40:24,493 --> 00:40:27,893
Speaker 3: pretty deep discussion on the methan fhetamine scourge in New

758
00:40:28,013 --> 00:40:30,573
Speaker 3: Zealand and what are the solutions if any. This is

759
00:40:30,613 --> 00:40:33,173
Speaker 3: on the back of an increase in the amount that

760
00:40:33,413 --> 00:40:36,333
Speaker 3: uses taking in terms of methan fetamine in the last

761
00:40:36,413 --> 00:40:39,453
Speaker 3: quarter according to wastewater testing. There has been a call

762
00:40:39,573 --> 00:40:42,653
Speaker 3: for rehabs to be rolled up and down the country.

763
00:40:42,693 --> 00:40:45,773
Speaker 3: A very successful one is to at Auranger that's up

764
00:40:45,853 --> 00:40:49,573
Speaker 3: in Northland and an evaluation report recently found there was

765
00:40:49,653 --> 00:40:53,053
Speaker 3: a thirty four percent reduction and harm from offending among

766
00:40:53,133 --> 00:40:56,693
Speaker 3: the people that program helped. So is that the solution

767
00:40:56,853 --> 00:40:59,733
Speaker 3: here is that we need more rehabilitation clinics for methan

768
00:40:59,773 --> 00:41:02,253
Speaker 3: fetamine users in New Zealand. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

769
00:41:02,373 --> 00:41:04,453
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call.

770
00:41:04,613 --> 00:41:06,533
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also we're talking to a lot of people.

771
00:41:07,093 --> 00:41:10,173
Speaker 2: Their experiences are the family, the members or addicts and

772
00:41:10,733 --> 00:41:14,732
Speaker 2: how they got off the myth, whether they've gone through

773
00:41:14,813 --> 00:41:17,373
Speaker 2: rehab and their story has had an amazing story from

774
00:41:17,413 --> 00:41:20,373
Speaker 2: from Beck earlier, and a pretty harrowing story as well

775
00:41:20,413 --> 00:41:23,893
Speaker 2: from from Susan and the effect on families. So I'll

776
00:41:23,893 --> 00:41:26,213
Speaker 2: tell you what. It's not the most Christmasy topic, but

777
00:41:26,893 --> 00:41:28,013
Speaker 2: I believe it's an important one.

778
00:41:28,093 --> 00:41:30,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Dan, How are you this afternoon?

779
00:41:31,253 --> 00:41:32,093
Speaker 4: Are you good? Mate?

780
00:41:32,213 --> 00:41:32,533
Speaker 11: How are you?

781
00:41:32,933 --> 00:41:33,172
Speaker 3: Yeah?

782
00:41:33,173 --> 00:41:33,413
Speaker 11: Good?

783
00:41:33,533 --> 00:41:35,773
Speaker 3: So you're a current user? Is that right? But you

784
00:41:35,813 --> 00:41:37,093
Speaker 3: have given up in the past.

785
00:41:36,853 --> 00:41:40,773
Speaker 4: Dan, Ay, it's been on rough for a few years now.

786
00:41:42,053 --> 00:41:44,732
Speaker 3: And so let's let's talk about when you first gone

787
00:41:44,733 --> 00:41:47,172
Speaker 3: on meth INFI I mean, Dan, how did how did

788
00:41:47,213 --> 00:41:48,853
Speaker 3: you get addicted to it in the first place?

789
00:41:50,733 --> 00:41:54,893
Speaker 4: Off one that's from mainly the people way like time

790
00:41:54,893 --> 00:41:56,493
Speaker 4: to say, look, when I feel so much older, I

791
00:41:56,573 --> 00:42:02,333
Speaker 4: was like seventeen. I'm twoty eight years old. Now, well,

792
00:42:02,373 --> 00:42:07,053
Speaker 4: I probably got hooked on it was just hanging around

793
00:42:07,093 --> 00:42:10,693
Speaker 4: people that just you know, they were trapped on their cycle.

794
00:42:10,773 --> 00:42:12,692
Speaker 4: Make the money, pay for the thing, Make the money

795
00:42:12,693 --> 00:42:16,333
Speaker 4: and pay for the thing, I guess. But two years old,

796
00:42:16,413 --> 00:42:16,893
Speaker 4: I think.

797
00:42:18,573 --> 00:42:20,692
Speaker 2: Did you know when you first took it that there

798
00:42:20,733 --> 00:42:22,573
Speaker 2: was a risky thing to do and that you were

799
00:42:22,613 --> 00:42:25,573
Speaker 2: maybely entering a dangerous cycle.

800
00:42:28,213 --> 00:42:31,293
Speaker 4: Not as bad as what I thought, like, I've had

801
00:42:31,333 --> 00:42:36,453
Speaker 4: a lot of surprising what did you call it, surprising

802
00:42:37,533 --> 00:42:42,053
Speaker 4: life's experiences that I can say they mate. Of course

803
00:42:42,093 --> 00:42:45,172
Speaker 4: I did not. I was not worried that by using

804
00:42:45,173 --> 00:42:47,853
Speaker 4: it I would open myself up to things that I've

805
00:42:47,893 --> 00:42:53,333
Speaker 4: never ever been aware of before, and just yeah, no,

806
00:42:53,733 --> 00:42:54,893
Speaker 4: I had no idea.

807
00:42:55,333 --> 00:42:58,853
Speaker 2: And you're and you're you're, you've you've been off it

808
00:42:58,933 --> 00:43:02,013
Speaker 2: being on it? Are you actively trying to get off

809
00:43:02,013 --> 00:43:03,652
Speaker 2: it now? And how do you go about that?

810
00:43:05,533 --> 00:43:07,493
Speaker 4: Yes? I am, but I'm sort of stuck in the

811
00:43:07,693 --> 00:43:11,013
Speaker 4: right at the moment, and it's like, yeah, it's quite

812
00:43:11,013 --> 00:43:12,893
Speaker 4: it's quite a pain, and it's kind of pain like

813
00:43:13,213 --> 00:43:15,453
Speaker 4: all my opportunities that I had when I was younger,

814
00:43:15,493 --> 00:43:18,853
Speaker 4: Like life was just breathing at me, and yeah, I

815
00:43:18,853 --> 00:43:23,133
Speaker 4: didn't have the mental capabilities of doing now. But hen saying,

816
00:43:23,213 --> 00:43:27,613
Speaker 4: it's the catch twenty two because I'm addicted to this

817
00:43:27,733 --> 00:43:31,293
Speaker 4: thing at the moment. But yeah, what I found made

818
00:43:31,373 --> 00:43:34,973
Speaker 4: is it's mainly the people way, like, because there are

819
00:43:35,053 --> 00:43:38,413
Speaker 4: quite some mental people around there around in New Zealand,

820
00:43:38,453 --> 00:43:44,533
Speaker 4: I guess, And yeah, I guess, yeah, not really the drugs.

821
00:43:44,613 --> 00:43:47,652
Speaker 4: It's more of the more you call it education behind it.

822
00:43:49,413 --> 00:43:54,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you don't think you the education about the

823
00:43:55,173 --> 00:43:58,133
Speaker 2: damage it causes, or education around how you deal with

824
00:43:58,173 --> 00:43:59,013
Speaker 2: the addiction.

825
00:44:01,253 --> 00:44:04,453
Speaker 4: Erithik really a here the now we deal with the addiction,

826
00:44:05,253 --> 00:44:08,172
Speaker 4: damage of causes and just more sorts. I don't think

827
00:44:09,093 --> 00:44:11,093
Speaker 4: I reckon that there has been research and there's a

828
00:44:11,093 --> 00:44:15,053
Speaker 4: lot of education about it, but they just don't want

829
00:44:15,053 --> 00:44:16,013
Speaker 4: to let us know about it.

830
00:44:16,293 --> 00:44:18,893
Speaker 2: I guess, do you know do you have? Do you

831
00:44:18,893 --> 00:44:21,973
Speaker 2: know who to reach out to? Have you got numbers

832
00:44:22,453 --> 00:44:24,613
Speaker 2: or connections to reach out to to try and help

833
00:44:24,653 --> 00:44:25,173
Speaker 2: with your addiction?

834
00:44:27,013 --> 00:44:27,493
Speaker 13: I do.

835
00:44:27,653 --> 00:44:30,373
Speaker 4: But this is the one thing I put for rehead

836
00:44:30,413 --> 00:44:34,733
Speaker 4: wrote war about eight months ago, right it was taking ages,

837
00:44:34,773 --> 00:44:38,013
Speaker 4: but yet me been shocking as it is. The papers

838
00:44:38,053 --> 00:44:41,732
Speaker 4: weren't even put through about six months later. So I'm

839
00:44:41,733 --> 00:44:44,133
Speaker 4: going to wait till next year. But it's port of

840
00:44:44,173 --> 00:44:47,373
Speaker 4: a Tues twenty to just met funfilming because I guess

841
00:44:47,493 --> 00:44:50,853
Speaker 4: it sort of dwindles in the spiritual realm. I'm not

842
00:44:50,933 --> 00:44:54,133
Speaker 4: much of a believer in spiritual stuff, but all I

843
00:44:54,133 --> 00:44:54,773
Speaker 4: can say.

844
00:44:54,613 --> 00:44:58,613
Speaker 3: Is, well, is that what is that what got you

845
00:44:58,653 --> 00:44:59,333
Speaker 3: off the first time?

846
00:44:59,413 --> 00:44:59,613
Speaker 13: Dan?

847
00:45:01,533 --> 00:45:01,573
Speaker 16: No?

848
00:45:01,693 --> 00:45:07,212
Speaker 4: The first time was jail with into jail and so.

849
00:45:07,213 --> 00:45:09,133
Speaker 2: You went to jail, So you you're off at just

850
00:45:09,173 --> 00:45:10,973
Speaker 2: basically because you couldn't get hold of it.

851
00:45:12,013 --> 00:45:12,613
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was.

852
00:45:13,293 --> 00:45:15,413
Speaker 2: And then when you got when you got out of jail,

853
00:45:15,453 --> 00:45:18,253
Speaker 2: when you got out of prison to do how quickly

854
00:45:18,293 --> 00:45:20,373
Speaker 2: did you find yourself feeding back up in the in

855
00:45:20,413 --> 00:45:21,373
Speaker 2: the same world.

856
00:45:21,893 --> 00:45:24,093
Speaker 4: Oh well, I got out and I got my wallet

857
00:45:24,133 --> 00:45:26,133
Speaker 4: and everything back from this three years later. And I

858
00:45:26,773 --> 00:45:29,933
Speaker 4: looked at the wallet and oh my god, mister policeman,

859
00:45:30,093 --> 00:45:33,692
Speaker 4: he missed a little bag in there, so I already had. Yeah,

860
00:45:33,693 --> 00:45:36,613
Speaker 4: I had someone in my from my confiscated.

861
00:45:36,933 --> 00:45:39,373
Speaker 3: It got big from the room and that's.

862
00:45:40,773 --> 00:45:41,493
Speaker 4: Straight back corner.

863
00:45:43,053 --> 00:45:45,573
Speaker 3: How much how much does it cost you at the moment, Dan,

864
00:45:45,613 --> 00:45:48,373
Speaker 3: in terms of of you know, what you're bringing in

865
00:45:48,853 --> 00:45:53,373
Speaker 3: as an income, it must be costing you a lot

866
00:45:53,413 --> 00:45:53,813
Speaker 3: of money.

867
00:45:54,613 --> 00:45:57,293
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's in the me like I'm yeah, I'm

868
00:45:57,293 --> 00:45:59,853
Speaker 4: slowly dying. So I feel like it's like a slow drowned,

869
00:45:59,933 --> 00:46:00,413
Speaker 4: slow kill.

870
00:46:01,373 --> 00:46:01,772
Speaker 11: I come.

871
00:46:02,533 --> 00:46:06,373
Speaker 4: I find that jail would probably do me good, but

872
00:46:07,733 --> 00:46:13,172
Speaker 4: it's it's it's a weird one, like, yeah, I don't

873
00:46:13,173 --> 00:46:15,253
Speaker 4: think it's the thing. I think it's what people do

874
00:46:15,373 --> 00:46:18,653
Speaker 4: to it as well, what they're doing to the drug.

875
00:46:20,693 --> 00:46:24,093
Speaker 3: You mean, what that what they're putting in it, Yeah, what.

876
00:46:24,013 --> 00:46:27,013
Speaker 4: They're putting into it, and just yeah, all the sort

877
00:46:27,093 --> 00:46:29,373
Speaker 4: of things because it's like have you ever tried the

878
00:46:29,613 --> 00:46:30,213
Speaker 4: drug before?

879
00:46:30,613 --> 00:46:31,053
Speaker 2: No?

880
00:46:31,053 --> 00:46:34,933
Speaker 4: No, okay, Yeah, it just sort of like opens everything up,

881
00:46:35,013 --> 00:46:37,413
Speaker 4: I guess, like rows out the whole system, like a

882
00:46:37,453 --> 00:46:39,733
Speaker 4: car that's driving and then you put the like inject

883
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Speaker 4: the cleaners in it and give it a quick soup.

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Speaker 2: And then But but so when you're not on it, though,

885
00:46:46,733 --> 00:46:48,773
Speaker 2: how how low do you feel?

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Speaker 13: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's got me good now. I never like I could.

888
00:46:55,573 --> 00:46:56,973
Speaker 4: I used to better put my mind to saying and

889
00:46:57,093 --> 00:46:58,573
Speaker 4: when I put my mind to something good, it's like

890
00:46:58,653 --> 00:47:00,733
Speaker 4: quite easy for me to get locked into like not

891
00:47:00,853 --> 00:47:05,333
Speaker 4: wanting to do it, like from switching from one sort

892
00:47:05,333 --> 00:47:13,613
Speaker 4: of take to the other, but other is just like nah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So did you reach out Dan? Did you say you

894
00:47:14,973 --> 00:47:17,893
Speaker 3: reached out to get help with some sort of rehab

895
00:47:18,013 --> 00:47:20,373
Speaker 3: program and that's fallen through.

896
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got to wait till next year now. It's

897
00:47:24,093 --> 00:47:29,692
Speaker 4: it's it's a weird one, man. It's like so many

898
00:47:29,693 --> 00:47:33,373
Speaker 4: people were cleaning themselves around here too. It's yeah, it's

899
00:47:33,413 --> 00:47:35,813
Speaker 4: a weird one, quite weird.

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Speaker 2: Oh hey, thank you so much. For it, for you

901
00:47:38,013 --> 00:47:40,973
Speaker 2: sharing your story story, Dan, and all the best with that.

902
00:47:41,093 --> 00:47:44,212
Speaker 2: And I hope you do find a way to get

903
00:47:44,213 --> 00:47:45,973
Speaker 2: off it and get on with your life.

904
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Speaker 4: You think you this isn't more like a yeah, someone

905
00:47:51,533 --> 00:47:54,213
Speaker 4: to do that sort of thing might help. It might

906
00:47:54,213 --> 00:47:55,293
Speaker 4: be a lot more easier for one.

907
00:47:55,573 --> 00:47:58,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Dan, thank you very much, made all the

908
00:47:58,653 --> 00:48:00,373
Speaker 3: very best to you. Oh one hundred and eighty ten

909
00:48:00,413 --> 00:48:02,853
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. Nine two nine two

910
00:48:02,933 --> 00:48:05,373
Speaker 3: is the text number. It is accorded to two.

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00:48:05,453 --> 00:48:10,533
Speaker 2: As a depressing thought that Dan's sees that that going

912
00:48:10,573 --> 00:48:13,573
Speaker 2: back to prison might be the best way to help

913
00:48:13,653 --> 00:48:13,973
Speaker 2: him out.

914
00:48:14,173 --> 00:48:14,493
Speaker 13: Yeah.

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00:48:14,733 --> 00:48:19,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a that is a depressing situation to

916
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Speaker 2: be in.

917
00:48:19,733 --> 00:48:21,293
Speaker 3: It was stacked against the guy. I mean the fact

918
00:48:21,293 --> 00:48:22,973
Speaker 3: that he went to prison, got off it, and then

919
00:48:23,093 --> 00:48:25,732
Speaker 3: god his belongings back and there was some methamphetamine within

920
00:48:25,773 --> 00:48:28,373
Speaker 3: his wallet. And then he mentioned he tried to reach

921
00:48:28,413 --> 00:48:30,813
Speaker 3: out for the rehab and that's fallen through the cracks.

922
00:48:30,853 --> 00:48:33,293
Speaker 3: So clearly there is a big problem here. Oh eight

923
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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty, ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: It is a quarter past two.

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Speaker 1: You're new home of Afternoon Talk and Heathen Taylor Adams

926
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Speaker 1: afternoon call. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talks.

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Speaker 3: B, News Talks there B. It's eighteen pass two and

928
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Speaker 3: we are talking about metham fetamine in New Zealand. We

929
00:48:52,573 --> 00:48:54,453
Speaker 3: are getting a lot of phone calls from people who

930
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Speaker 3: are recovering or indeed, Dan who was has tried, he's

931
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Speaker 3: tried to quit and is currently on it. But it's

932
00:49:00,493 --> 00:49:03,413
Speaker 3: important tonight. If you're listening and you are dealing or

933
00:49:03,413 --> 00:49:06,093
Speaker 3: struggling with this in your family or yourself, there is

934
00:49:06,213 --> 00:49:09,533
Speaker 3: help available. Alcohol Drug Helpline that is eight hundred and

935
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Speaker 3: seven eight seven seven nine seven, or you can text

936
00:49:13,173 --> 00:49:16,333
Speaker 3: eight six eighty one. That is support around the clock

937
00:49:16,453 --> 00:49:19,613
Speaker 3: for alcohol and drugs. It's a free and confidential chat

938
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Speaker 3: with a trained counselor at twenty four hours a day,

939
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Speaker 3: seven days a week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So we've got ourselves embroiled in an important but

941
00:49:26,413 --> 00:49:28,893
Speaker 2: serious chat as we bring us to the end of

942
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Speaker 2: the year in the Christmas season, but learning a lot.

943
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Speaker 2: So eight hundred and eighty ten eighty share your stories

944
00:49:37,093 --> 00:49:38,333
Speaker 2: with us. We'd love to hear from you.

945
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Speaker 3: Yep. So Manse, how are you this afternoon?

946
00:49:41,573 --> 00:49:42,973
Speaker 12: HIH's Merry Christmas?

947
00:49:43,133 --> 00:49:44,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, Merry Christmas?

948
00:49:45,213 --> 00:49:46,253
Speaker 16: Hey, I'd just like.

949
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Speaker 12: To share that I am a parent of a very

950
00:49:50,573 --> 00:49:54,173
Speaker 12: beautiful young girl who got addicted to me sam satin

951
00:49:54,893 --> 00:50:00,253
Speaker 12: and is a horrendous drug. Like everyone else's callers. As

952
00:50:00,253 --> 00:50:03,172
Speaker 12: a parent, you go through absolute hell. I think the

953
00:50:03,173 --> 00:50:07,333
Speaker 12: most important thing for me sure that I remember is

954
00:50:08,333 --> 00:50:10,813
Speaker 12: knowing that it wasn't my daughter, it was the drug.

955
00:50:11,013 --> 00:50:15,973
Speaker 12: So if you can split the two, it always gives

956
00:50:15,973 --> 00:50:23,453
Speaker 12: you hope. The situation with rehab, she didn't attend rehab

957
00:50:24,893 --> 00:50:31,933
Speaker 12: she got pregnant. Now she didn't use through the pregnancy,

958
00:50:31,973 --> 00:50:36,293
Speaker 12: but when she stopped breastfeeding, she started using again. So

959
00:50:36,333 --> 00:50:42,133
Speaker 12: I had a glimpse of my daughter back then. The

960
00:50:42,253 --> 00:50:47,292
Speaker 12: drug itself, it's only one well is a molecule away

961
00:50:47,333 --> 00:50:51,493
Speaker 12: from rittalon. And the studies in the States show that

962
00:50:52,373 --> 00:50:55,213
Speaker 12: eighty percent of the users of metal fatire mean have

963
00:50:55,333 --> 00:51:00,333
Speaker 12: a mental health disability such as ADHD or you know,

964
00:51:00,413 --> 00:51:05,293
Speaker 12: something along those lines. And I was the greatest enabler

965
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Speaker 12: of all And interestingly enough, when I spoke to her

966
00:51:09,573 --> 00:51:13,573
Speaker 12: about it later, she said, Mum, thank you because you

967
00:51:13,693 --> 00:51:19,653
Speaker 12: made that journey safe. So every story is different.

968
00:51:20,533 --> 00:51:22,533
Speaker 2: Right, So what do you mean you were the greatest

969
00:51:22,613 --> 00:51:23,493
Speaker 2: enabler of all?

970
00:51:24,813 --> 00:51:27,772
Speaker 12: Well, I kept the money to feed her habits.

971
00:51:27,933 --> 00:51:32,333
Speaker 2: Right, and she and when she came out the other

972
00:51:32,373 --> 00:51:33,652
Speaker 2: side of it, she thanked you for.

973
00:51:33,613 --> 00:51:37,333
Speaker 12: That, Yes, because I made it space right so.

974
00:51:37,773 --> 00:51:41,093
Speaker 2: She wasn't com many crimes or operating. But I mean,

975
00:51:41,253 --> 00:51:44,533
Speaker 2: how much money was that that you were feeding to her?

976
00:51:44,773 --> 00:51:47,373
Speaker 12: A lot of money, a lot of money and you.

977
00:51:47,373 --> 00:51:51,413
Speaker 2: Knew that that was going towards I met because I was.

978
00:51:51,373 --> 00:51:54,533
Speaker 12: Just denial and she was in denial. But like with missus,

979
00:51:54,653 --> 00:51:57,933
Speaker 12: is usually a cycle. I'm not sure if you'll good it,

980
00:51:58,093 --> 00:52:01,813
Speaker 12: like how high and then the compouns are just out

981
00:52:01,893 --> 00:52:05,533
Speaker 12: the gate and it's during the come down period that

982
00:52:05,653 --> 00:52:09,053
Speaker 12: the damage will happen. They agress in the paranor and

983
00:52:09,093 --> 00:52:12,333
Speaker 12: everything like that. So once I recognized the pattern, I

984
00:52:12,413 --> 00:52:14,573
Speaker 12: knew that we had a very serious issue.

985
00:52:14,853 --> 00:52:17,813
Speaker 3: Did you get help to recognize that pattern, Samantha.

986
00:52:20,013 --> 00:52:25,373
Speaker 12: Yes, I did. I got help through actually through an

987
00:52:25,413 --> 00:52:32,133
Speaker 12: American Facebook group for supports, you know, supporting addicts and

988
00:52:32,213 --> 00:52:34,693
Speaker 12: METHMSI to me because I didn't find there was anything

989
00:52:34,733 --> 00:52:39,173
Speaker 12: in New Zealand that was I just found it easier

990
00:52:39,253 --> 00:52:42,573
Speaker 12: to go aboard for that and the advice I got

991
00:52:42,573 --> 00:52:46,373
Speaker 12: from them was amazing. Like writer a letter without judgment,

992
00:52:46,453 --> 00:52:49,133
Speaker 12: Vita Elita and tell her all the achievements she's done

993
00:52:49,173 --> 00:52:49,613
Speaker 12: in her.

994
00:52:49,493 --> 00:52:49,973
Speaker 11: Life and.

995
00:52:51,533 --> 00:52:54,773
Speaker 12: You know, try and build up her self esteem. It

996
00:52:54,853 --> 00:52:57,813
Speaker 12: was really interesting the approach they took. But it worked,

997
00:52:59,213 --> 00:53:01,173
Speaker 12: but it may not work for everyone, you know.

998
00:53:01,853 --> 00:53:03,773
Speaker 2: Yes, So do you think there was a time in

999
00:53:04,013 --> 00:53:08,292
Speaker 2: life that she had to reach to get off the drug?

1000
00:53:08,413 --> 00:53:10,573
Speaker 2: So you're saying that she had to be you know,

1001
00:53:10,653 --> 00:53:13,053
Speaker 2: built up her self esteem. She had to go through it,

1002
00:53:13,093 --> 00:53:18,093
Speaker 2: and so you don't think that rehab would necessarily necessarily

1003
00:53:18,213 --> 00:53:20,013
Speaker 2: helped her. It was more of a mental state she

1004
00:53:20,053 --> 00:53:20,652
Speaker 2: needed to reach.

1005
00:53:22,293 --> 00:53:24,933
Speaker 12: I think so I looked like the music. Vitamine has

1006
00:53:24,973 --> 00:53:27,053
Speaker 12: many faces. You know, it could be your doctor, your

1007
00:53:27,053 --> 00:53:29,773
Speaker 12: real estate agent. There are a lot of there's a

1008
00:53:29,853 --> 00:53:34,093
Speaker 12: whole lot of functioning adds out there and they use

1009
00:53:34,213 --> 00:53:38,133
Speaker 12: every day and they function every day. But it's the ones,

1010
00:53:38,413 --> 00:53:41,692
Speaker 12: it's our young ones that seem to know fall through

1011
00:53:41,693 --> 00:53:47,013
Speaker 12: the cracks. And I really believe that with my daughter,

1012
00:53:48,373 --> 00:53:52,413
Speaker 12: she met someone who, funnily enough, was going through the

1013
00:53:52,453 --> 00:53:54,413
Speaker 12: Grace Foundation. Have you heard them?

1014
00:53:54,653 --> 00:53:55,333
Speaker 3: I haven't known.

1015
00:53:56,693 --> 00:54:02,613
Speaker 12: Grace Foundation. It's an amazing charity in Auckland and they

1016
00:54:02,853 --> 00:54:05,973
Speaker 12: are a rehab but in private homes that are monitored

1017
00:54:07,053 --> 00:54:12,933
Speaker 12: and it's government, government funded, but they just don't take

1018
00:54:12,973 --> 00:54:16,133
Speaker 12: in anyone you have to apply to. Anyway, she met

1019
00:54:16,493 --> 00:54:19,693
Speaker 12: her partner who was going through that and through and

1020
00:54:20,213 --> 00:54:23,773
Speaker 12: between the two of them they supported each other and

1021
00:54:24,413 --> 00:54:28,213
Speaker 12: got sober. So you know, I just it is not

1022
00:54:28,253 --> 00:54:31,933
Speaker 12: as horrific journey for parents. But I think the best

1023
00:54:31,933 --> 00:54:34,573
Speaker 12: thing for me was to just realize that, try and

1024
00:54:35,533 --> 00:54:40,172
Speaker 12: try and separate the two drug and your child and

1025
00:54:41,093 --> 00:54:45,692
Speaker 12: realize that it is an addiction and don't give up.

1026
00:54:46,053 --> 00:54:48,133
Speaker 2: And how long has your How long has your daughter

1027
00:54:48,213 --> 00:54:51,173
Speaker 2: been sober now, Samantha, Oh.

1028
00:54:51,093 --> 00:54:56,453
Speaker 12: Goodness, she's been sober three years. Unfortunately, her and her

1029
00:54:56,533 --> 00:55:00,413
Speaker 12: partner had a baby last year and the baby died

1030
00:55:00,453 --> 00:55:04,453
Speaker 12: at six weeks old. And I remember thinking my biggest

1031
00:55:04,533 --> 00:55:07,493
Speaker 12: fear was that would be the huge trigger to start

1032
00:55:07,613 --> 00:55:10,533
Speaker 12: using again. But they got through it, and they didn't,

1033
00:55:11,213 --> 00:55:15,093
Speaker 12: and so chewed off to them. But you know, it's

1034
00:55:15,973 --> 00:55:19,533
Speaker 12: they really need to find out because they're chasing the

1035
00:55:19,573 --> 00:55:20,533
Speaker 12: dope mean high.

1036
00:55:21,253 --> 00:55:22,013
Speaker 11: Ye you know, with a.

1037
00:55:22,053 --> 00:55:25,613
Speaker 12: Fishy with ADHD chads. They chase the dope mean high

1038
00:55:25,693 --> 00:55:31,413
Speaker 12: and they get it three and that's why they keep

1039
00:55:31,493 --> 00:55:34,173
Speaker 12: chasing it. You've got to address the root of the issue, really,

1040
00:55:34,253 --> 00:55:35,413
Speaker 12: I believe, and then.

1041
00:55:35,293 --> 00:55:37,373
Speaker 2: They drop off the cliff and they need more and

1042
00:55:37,413 --> 00:55:40,252
Speaker 2: more to get to the same same high. Hey, thank

1043
00:55:40,253 --> 00:55:42,533
Speaker 2: you so much for sharing that with Samantha. It was

1044
00:55:42,573 --> 00:55:44,973
Speaker 2: an incredible story and I'm so glad that your daughter's

1045
00:55:45,013 --> 00:55:45,533
Speaker 2: doing Okay.

1046
00:55:45,693 --> 00:55:47,493
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1047
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1048
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1049
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1050
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1051
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1052
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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1072
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Speaker 1: eighty eight on News Talk ZEDB.

1073
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Speaker 3: News Talk ZB. So we've been having a pretty deep

1074
00:57:05,413 --> 00:57:09,133
Speaker 3: but important discussion about methamphetamine use in New Zealand. Then

1075
00:57:09,173 --> 00:57:12,333
Speaker 3: on the line we do have Richard Thick. He is

1076
00:57:12,613 --> 00:57:16,653
Speaker 3: the director of the Northland Regional Bridge of the Salvation Army. Richard,

1077
00:57:16,733 --> 00:57:17,933
Speaker 3: very very good afternoon to you.

1078
00:57:19,293 --> 00:57:22,413
Speaker 11: Good afternoon matters Matt and Tyler.

1079
00:57:22,573 --> 00:57:25,893
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, now you yeah, Hello, very great to chat

1080
00:57:25,933 --> 00:57:29,213
Speaker 3: to you. So you've been involved with the Tata Audunger program.

1081
00:57:29,253 --> 00:57:30,053
Speaker 3: Is that right, Richard?

1082
00:57:31,013 --> 00:57:33,173
Speaker 11: I have, yes, And how.

1083
00:57:33,093 --> 00:57:35,293
Speaker 2: Is your program different from other programs?

1084
00:57:37,453 --> 00:57:40,333
Speaker 11: Well, I'm not sure about a lot of other programs

1085
00:57:40,333 --> 00:57:45,493
Speaker 11: and what's happening nationally, but the difference I think for

1086
00:57:45,693 --> 00:57:49,573
Speaker 11: Chad Orino it's a partnership with House and Police and

1087
00:57:49,733 --> 00:57:57,293
Speaker 11: it's a multi agency approach. It builds on builds on

1088
00:58:01,173 --> 00:58:10,013
Speaker 11: health and police work and evidence based interventions, and it's

1089
00:58:10,053 --> 00:58:13,453
Speaker 11: a kind of blend of public health, police work, and

1090
00:58:13,973 --> 00:58:17,773
Speaker 11: evidence based alcohol and drag interventions.

1091
00:58:18,973 --> 00:58:21,293
Speaker 3: It's certainly had a lot of success, judging by the

1092
00:58:21,333 --> 00:58:25,253
Speaker 3: recent evaluation report Richard that the program saw a thirty

1093
00:58:25,253 --> 00:58:27,893
Speaker 3: four percent reduction and harm from offending among those who

1094
00:58:28,373 --> 00:58:31,533
Speaker 3: are the program helped. So just walk us through it.

1095
00:58:31,693 --> 00:58:35,973
Speaker 3: How does someone get selected for the program?

1096
00:58:36,453 --> 00:58:39,133
Speaker 11: Well, there's a number of referral pathways that police are

1097
00:58:39,213 --> 00:58:42,253
Speaker 11: major referras into it, but it can be from corrections,

1098
00:58:42,413 --> 00:58:47,853
Speaker 11: probation services, health are the health services, to fudge or

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Speaker 11: order and basically it's for people who are experiencing difficulties

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Speaker 11: with methane featamine all their families.

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Speaker 2: So do you sometimes reach out or do the police

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Speaker 2: sometimes reach out to people and refer them to you

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Speaker 2: before a crime has actually been committed.

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Speaker 11: Normally the police would come into contact with individuals through

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Speaker 11: their normal police work and they can offer treatment. I

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Speaker 11: guess that is a point of difference as well at

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Speaker 11: the police of a referral to treatment and the police

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Speaker 11: can make the referral themselves.

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Speaker 3: So the thirty four reduction. That is you know, significant,

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Speaker 3: that is success. What do you put that success down to?

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Speaker 3: What happens within the program to see that level of success?

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Speaker 11: Well, look, I can tell you there's a lot of

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Speaker 11: follow up by the police themselves. The police follow up,

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Speaker 11: they do drug testing, they refer through to POFI no connectors,

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Speaker 11: which are what they POFARO connect the works with the

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Speaker 11: person to help keep them in treatment. They do intensive

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Speaker 11: outreach really I said of outreach in the communities and

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Speaker 11: work with families and individuals, and so there's enormous amount

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Speaker 11: of follow up and there's a range of different treatment

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Speaker 11: options that individuals can use themselves or select themselves.

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Speaker 2: Is it strictly a referral process or can families or

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Speaker 2: individual addicts reach out to you?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, so that people can self refer. There's a website

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Speaker 11: to fund of Order website under Chowter Ordering. People can

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Speaker 11: access support through the website. They can refer themselves, or

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Speaker 11: family can refer for family support, or they can go

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Speaker 11: through a range of other option referral options like the

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Speaker 11: gp O. The service providers are the health service providers.

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Speaker 2: Now, Richard, there's a saying you always here that an

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Speaker 2: adit has to want to be helped. Is that still true?

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Speaker 2: Or or can you find someone in any position that

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Speaker 2: has been referred to you or has come to you

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Speaker 2: and offer them help and have some success.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's a great question, A big question. I think.

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Speaker 11: I think, you know, having a range of treatment options

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Speaker 11: caters to people that are at different stages and have

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Speaker 11: different different motivators, and I think you know, like being

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Speaker 11: having contact with the police can be huge motivation for people.

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Speaker 11: But some people are just ready to change, and so

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Speaker 11: the treatment options available are and a tailored treatment plan

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Speaker 11: for people would take into account the stage that they're at,

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Speaker 11: whether they ready to change or they're ready for treatment,

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Speaker 11: and so told ordering a treatment options, try and meet

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Speaker 11: meet people where they're at.

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Speaker 3: Is there hope Richard, that this program can be rolled

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Speaker 3: across the country.

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Speaker 11: I do believe there is. It's very topical and of

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Speaker 11: course met problem is growing, so people I understand exploring

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Speaker 11: that option.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Richard, thank you very much for having a chat

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Speaker 3: with us, and all the best with the program, and

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Speaker 3: congratulations on the success that you are heaving up there.

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Speaker 3: I really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and anyone shon go to the Crow's nest research,

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Speaker 11: child or order and read the evaluation themselves. It's open

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Speaker 11: to public.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Richard. And just that name of

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Speaker 3: the program again, Tata or unger that is te A

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Speaker 3: r A r n g A. So thank you very

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Speaker 3: much again Richard's and just a reminder for anyone listening

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Speaker 3: who has a family member addicted currently or indeed if

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Speaker 3: you are addicted methan fetamine, there is help available the

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Speaker 3: Tiata audung A program, but also the Alcohol Drug Helpline

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Speaker 3: now eight hundred and seven eight seven seven nine seven,

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Speaker 3: or U can text eighty six eight one for support

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Speaker 3: around alcohol and drugs. It's a free and confidential chat

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Speaker 3: with a trained counselor twenty four hours a day, seven

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Speaker 3: days a week.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's been an interesting and how would I say,

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Speaker 2: sobering hour and a half discussion. But we're going to

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Speaker 2: be moving on next yep.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, it is twenty six minutes to three.

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Speaker 14: US talks at the headlines with Blue bubble taxis, it's

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Speaker 14: no trouble with a Blue bubble. The Prime Ministers acknowledge

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Speaker 14: concerns around allegations two Wellington waitresses were indecently assaulted at

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Speaker 14: work by Vietnamese officials who have now left New Zealand.

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Speaker 14: Canterbury fire crews have been called to a grass fire

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Speaker 14: in Burnham, south of christ Church. Fire and Emergency says

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Speaker 14: there are also two other blazers along Maine South Road.

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Speaker 14: The key we Bumbling Jihadi Mark John Taylor has been

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Speaker 14: charged in Wellington under the Terrorism Suppression Act. It's understood

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Speaker 14: he's still in jail in Syria. In the Cargo police

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Speaker 14: are investigating the theft of a safe from a Mersey

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Speaker 14: Street business, thought to be linked to a stolen vehicle

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Speaker 14: found but burnt out in a creek this morning. A

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Speaker 14: documentary about former Prime Minister Jacindra R Dune will be

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Speaker 14: premiere at will Premiere, I should say at the prestigious

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Speaker 14: sun Dance Film Festival next year. And the Minister of

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Speaker 14: a Regulations announced a third sector review, this time into

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Speaker 14: hairdressers and barbers. It'll include reviewing the ban on salon's

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Speaker 14: giving customers a coffee with their cut and forbidding dogs

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Speaker 14: entering with their owner. All blacks forced to return vehicles

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Speaker 14: as Ford sponsorship ends. You can see more at enzid

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Speaker 14: Herald Premium. Now back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Rayleian right, A tough but important

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Speaker 3: Aaron Harper. We are going to change it up for

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Speaker 3: the next wee while we want to talk about Time

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Speaker 3: Person of the Year. The shortlist is out and as

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Speaker 3: you can imagine, there are some big names.

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is in the last, Kate Middleton, Elon Musk,

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Speaker 2: Benjamin and Yahoo, Joe Rogan, Donald Trumps the front runner,

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Speaker 2: and also Mark Zuckerberg's in there, Jerome Powell as well.

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Speaker 2: And you've got to remember with the Time magazine, the

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Speaker 2: title goes to a person, group or a concept. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: it doesn't even go to a person, it'll go to

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Speaker 2: a group. I mean, at one point it was the

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Speaker 2: American middle class got the Time Person of the Year.

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Speaker 2: But it's a person who's had a person, group or

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Speaker 2: concept that has had the biggest impact for good or

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Speaker 2: for ill on the world over the previous year.

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Speaker 3: And with those finalists of mind, and I'm just gonna

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Speaker 3: put my opinion right on the table right now, I

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Speaker 3: think Joe Rogan he has had a massive year, I

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Speaker 3: mean just in terms of his interview with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: And I know Donald Trump is clearly the front front runner,

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Speaker 3: but I would love to see Joe Rogan as Times

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Speaker 3: Person of the Year has been meteoric this year.

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Speaker 2: That word fire some people up. People would be furious

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Speaker 2: about that. Whoever wins people the furious because people love

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Speaker 2: getting furious about stuff. That's for sure. Donald Trump has

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Speaker 2: won it before. He won it in two thousand and sixteen.

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Speaker 2: But I mean that was a huge comeback for Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: and he was he was down and out basically until

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Speaker 2: those prosecutions started being put against him and then his

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Speaker 2: poll numbers. I mean, it was what's his name? God,

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Speaker 2: I just got to the Florida governor. He was on

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Speaker 2: the on the rise, wasn't he?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, another And then everyone thought he was the front

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Speaker 2: runner until those God, okay, I'm going to have to

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Speaker 2: I'm going to have to get this name here.

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Speaker 11: I know it.

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Speaker 2: It's it's going to be Rond de Santis. Geez geez.

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Speaker 2: It was right, Rond de Santez was the shoe in

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Speaker 2: for the Republican nomination, and then there was the trials

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Speaker 2: against Donald Trump, the legal action, and then he went

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Speaker 2: up in the polls and he won it, and he

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Speaker 2: won it comprehensively. So he's got to be a front

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Speaker 2: runner and apparently is the front runner. Elon Muss has

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Speaker 2: done a lot, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: That's a huge nomination. Yeah, innovative disruptor of called him,

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Speaker 3: from online payments to electric vehicles to the commercial space.

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Speaker 3: The Tesla CEO has upended the industry, certainly has. And

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Speaker 3: again another person who is somewhat controversial but incredibly popular

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Speaker 3: with many many people out there, and fairly close to

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Another of the possibilities is Jerome Powell, who's the I

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Speaker 2: think he's the head of the is. He's the head

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Speaker 2: of the Federal Reserve. Yeah, the chair of the Federal

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Speaker 2: Reserve for the United States. So he's definitely had an

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Speaker 2: outsized effect on the world. Whether it's for good or

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Speaker 2: for ill, that's for other people to decide. Zuckerberg hasn't

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Speaker 2: done much to be in there. I don't think Kate Middleton, so,

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Speaker 2: Kate Middleton has been dealing with cancer, so she's in

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Speaker 2: the mix there. I think she's coming right.

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Speaker 3: I mean a lot of big contenders there. As you said, Matt,

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump is the front runner. But love to hear

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Speaker 3: from you. Eight hundred eighty eighty. Who should be Times

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Speaker 3: Person of the Year this year nine two ninety two

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Speaker 3: is the text number. It is nineteen to three. Back

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Speaker 3: in a mow.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty Matt Heathen Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talks, EVY.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. We're talking about the Time Person of the Year.

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Speaker 3: The finalists aro out. It appears Donald Trump as the

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Speaker 3: front runner. But there are some heavy hitters, as there

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Speaker 3: always are for the Time Person of the Year finalists. Oh,

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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Who do you think

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Speaker 3: it should be? Just a couple of other names that

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Speaker 3: you might not know of are Julia naval Nayes. She

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Speaker 3: is the wife of Alexei Navauni. He died in February,

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Speaker 3: so she the wife and nowunced after her husband's death

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Speaker 3: in the Russian prison that she would continue has worked.

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Speaker 3: She accused Russian President Valaimir Putin of killing her husband

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Speaker 3: and has met with world leaders, including Biden as Russia

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Speaker 3: continues its in the Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: She's a rank outsider. Claudia Shinebaum who's made history as

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Speaker 2: she was the first sworn in as Mexico's first ever

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Speaker 2: female president. So there's a few coming through. But what

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Speaker 2: do you think this is a misunderstanding? Someone says, really,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, not sure he's done anything to warrant Person

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Speaker 2: of the Year dickhead, hands down, But that's misunderstanding. Whether

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Speaker 2: you think someone's a dickhead or not is irrelevant, as

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Speaker 2: Time magazine clearly points out, that it is a person

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Speaker 2: who has had the biggest impact for good or for ill.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of people think, I mean, the majority

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Speaker 2: of Americans think that Donald Trump's good, but nearly as

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Speaker 2: many think that he's ill. But that's not the point.

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Speaker 2: If a whole lot of people hate him and a

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Speaker 2: whole lot of people like him, then he's had a

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Speaker 2: big impact.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, David, how are you this afternoon.

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Speaker 19: Yes, young man, look great topic. At all these nominations,

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Speaker 19: how many are over ten twenty?

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Speaker 3: It's crazy in terms of the finalists, it's narrowed down

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Speaker 3: to eight. Eight finalists.

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Speaker 19: Okay, Look, my initial when I first heard this, my

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Speaker 19: initial reaction was Donald Trump, because he didn't have to

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Speaker 19: stand for the presidency, and against all odds, he came

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Speaker 19: through and one and he's presumably the most powerful man

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Speaker 19: in the world, depending how he decided it.

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Speaker 14: That.

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Speaker 19: Then, look, a few minutes after that's what I thought. No,

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Speaker 19: And something in my gut, if you excuse the reference,

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Speaker 19: something in my gut said, no, it's not Donald, He's

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Speaker 19: done a great job. It's got to be Kate.

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Speaker 13: That's my voe.

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Speaker 2: Kate Middleton.

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Speaker 19: Absolutely, she beauty counts, so that's sort of. But she's

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01:10:52,853 --> 01:10:57,852
Speaker 19: a beautiful, young, courageous woman who has fought her own

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01:10:57,893 --> 01:11:01,293
Speaker 19: battle as Trump. Did you know he fought his battle,

1313
01:11:01,333 --> 01:11:04,732
Speaker 19: she has fought hers. They both come through. Trump had

1314
01:11:04,772 --> 01:11:09,733
Speaker 19: the might of the USA, the billions at his disposal,

1315
01:11:10,532 --> 01:11:14,572
Speaker 19: Kate presumingly a few dollars with the Buckingham Palace. But

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01:11:15,173 --> 01:11:20,173
Speaker 19: the fact that I just love her, her grace, she

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01:11:20,253 --> 01:11:24,213
Speaker 19: exudes some sort of strong calm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a lot of time for Kate Middleton.

1319
01:11:28,893 --> 01:11:32,412
Speaker 2: And like those conspiracy theories that circulated online in March

1320
01:11:32,452 --> 01:11:37,492
Speaker 2: about her whereabouts and rumors of her the marriage, and

1321
01:11:37,732 --> 01:11:39,692
Speaker 2: those people that came out and said that stuff in

1322
01:11:39,772 --> 01:11:42,492
Speaker 2: the in the in the magazines and the gossip columns

1323
01:11:42,492 --> 01:11:44,932
Speaker 2: and the royal writers, and then for her to come

1324
01:11:44,933 --> 01:11:47,892
Speaker 2: out and it was cancer the reason why she was there,

1325
01:11:48,013 --> 01:11:51,492
Speaker 2: And they'd made these speculations and put them across as truth.

1326
01:11:52,253 --> 01:11:54,933
Speaker 2: Bad people, bad people.

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Speaker 19: Look, look, you make a good point. And you two guys,

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01:11:59,412 --> 01:12:04,372
Speaker 19: fabulous guys, who are you are not in the mainstream

1329
01:12:04,732 --> 01:12:08,972
Speaker 19: media in terms of your opinion makers. You're talk about people, right,

1330
01:12:09,492 --> 01:12:13,132
Speaker 19: and we're going to say about these rumors and stuff

1331
01:12:13,213 --> 01:12:16,333
Speaker 19: circulating even happens in this little country with all this

1332
01:12:17,013 --> 01:12:21,173
Speaker 19: crapped out the series and misinformation. It's one reason why

1333
01:12:21,173 --> 01:12:25,173
Speaker 19: em is INBC is basically stuff because it came over

1334
01:12:25,213 --> 01:12:31,333
Speaker 19: with these Hitler and Trump has Hitler theories. Forget. Like

1335
01:12:31,452 --> 01:12:35,692
Speaker 19: I've done, I've tried to divorce herself of mainstream media.

1336
01:12:35,732 --> 01:12:37,133
Speaker 19: A lot of it is rubbish.

1337
01:12:38,093 --> 01:12:38,452
Speaker 16: Not you.

1338
01:12:40,333 --> 01:12:43,612
Speaker 19: To go to go to go home, my guts and

1339
01:12:43,652 --> 01:12:45,652
Speaker 19: my gut, says the courageous young woman.

1340
01:12:48,333 --> 01:12:50,293
Speaker 3: You said that nice and grace is the word there.

1341
01:12:50,333 --> 01:12:52,172
Speaker 3: I mean, it can be hard to get good pr

1342
01:12:52,372 --> 01:12:54,812
Speaker 3: as a member of the royal family, but she certainly

1343
01:12:54,853 --> 01:12:57,093
Speaker 3: did that with grace, which I think sums that up.

1344
01:12:57,133 --> 01:12:59,732
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, David Jack, Who do you reckon?

1345
01:13:01,732 --> 01:13:04,333
Speaker 22: You know, Let's look, I think it's going to go

1346
01:13:04,372 --> 01:13:08,532
Speaker 22: to Donald Trump, and probably deservedly so, regardless of you

1347
01:13:08,532 --> 01:13:10,053
Speaker 22: think of him. And by the way, I think he's

1348
01:13:10,053 --> 01:13:12,772
Speaker 22: going to do great things for America, particularly with the

1349
01:13:12,812 --> 01:13:16,573
Speaker 22: team he's got on. But he has had an outside

1350
01:13:16,652 --> 01:13:19,532
Speaker 22: impact on the world over the last couple of years,

1351
01:13:19,532 --> 01:13:21,732
Speaker 22: the good or bad, and I think he's going to

1352
01:13:21,772 --> 01:13:26,412
Speaker 22: have an outside impact for America. However, I agree him.

1353
01:13:26,452 --> 01:13:29,012
Speaker 22: Sorry I forgot who said it. With the sentiments around

1354
01:13:29,093 --> 01:13:32,692
Speaker 22: Joe Rogan, I think Joe Rogan is probably the most

1355
01:13:32,732 --> 01:13:36,773
Speaker 22: deserved winner of it, given that, you know, his success

1356
01:13:36,893 --> 01:13:41,892
Speaker 22: and particularly probably his effect on you know, people's saw

1357
01:13:41,973 --> 01:13:47,492
Speaker 22: patterns and the media in this modern age is completely

1358
01:13:47,532 --> 01:13:50,613
Speaker 22: outside and he's really changed the kind of whole paradigm

1359
01:13:51,013 --> 01:13:55,412
Speaker 22: about how people just discuss things, how the media presents

1360
01:13:55,612 --> 01:13:59,213
Speaker 22: different things, and definitely in politics, I think the whole

1361
01:13:59,372 --> 01:14:03,892
Speaker 22: podcast well, I mean they've been saying it since since

1362
01:14:03,933 --> 01:14:06,892
Speaker 22: Donald Trump's interview. Next election is going to be the

1363
01:14:06,933 --> 01:14:10,132
Speaker 22: podcast podcast election, right, Yeah.

1364
01:14:09,933 --> 01:14:11,932
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it was. It was widely considered a

1365
01:14:11,933 --> 01:14:16,252
Speaker 2: massive mistake for Karmela to not do Joe Rogan because

1366
01:14:16,692 --> 01:14:20,333
Speaker 2: that was you know she I mean that he was

1367
01:14:20,372 --> 01:14:22,452
Speaker 2: demanding a three hour conversation and you have to fly

1368
01:14:22,612 --> 01:14:24,812
Speaker 2: to Austin, but not already demanding that's what he does,

1369
01:14:25,133 --> 01:14:27,772
Speaker 2: three hour conversations. And there in Austin, you can't have

1370
01:14:27,853 --> 01:14:30,572
Speaker 2: your people in the room. Trump did it. Seventy million

1371
01:14:30,612 --> 01:14:34,932
Speaker 2: people experienced it a minimum, and it changed the election,

1372
01:14:35,213 --> 01:14:37,253
Speaker 2: and it really sort of changed the concept of those

1373
01:14:37,692 --> 01:14:40,572
Speaker 2: you know, the sort of cable news network over there

1374
01:14:40,812 --> 01:14:45,652
Speaker 2: and these these quick fast turnaround you know news, the

1375
01:14:45,652 --> 01:14:49,452
Speaker 2: news cycle and the current talking point. It's very different

1376
01:14:49,452 --> 01:14:51,732
Speaker 2: when you get someone chatting for three three hours as

1377
01:14:51,772 --> 01:14:54,412
Speaker 2: far as a voter learning, you know, whether they like

1378
01:14:54,492 --> 01:14:55,133
Speaker 2: the person or not.

1379
01:14:56,652 --> 01:15:00,532
Speaker 22: No, look, it's changed the whole you know, it's given

1380
01:15:00,532 --> 01:15:03,932
Speaker 22: people a chance three hours in you know, Joe Rogan

1381
01:15:04,013 --> 01:15:08,572
Speaker 22: himself said this in a subsequent podcast. You know, three

1382
01:15:08,612 --> 01:15:11,133
Speaker 22: hours you can't fake that. You know, you're going to

1383
01:15:11,213 --> 01:15:13,692
Speaker 22: learn who the person is, how they think, how how

1384
01:15:13,732 --> 01:15:15,612
Speaker 22: smart they are really, you know, you get a gauge

1385
01:15:15,612 --> 01:15:19,933
Speaker 22: of somebody's intelligence when they're in a dynamic situation like

1386
01:15:19,973 --> 01:15:24,173
Speaker 22: that and having to react to a flowing interview as

1387
01:15:24,173 --> 01:15:27,253
Speaker 22: opposed to what mantary media has given us the last

1388
01:15:27,452 --> 01:15:31,053
Speaker 22: thirty years, which is sound bites and people talking to

1389
01:15:31,173 --> 01:15:35,692
Speaker 22: just you know, kefly curated talking points and I don't know,

1390
01:15:35,732 --> 01:15:38,612
Speaker 22: you've got to got to say, Tamarla, what you whatever?

1391
01:15:38,652 --> 01:15:39,052
Speaker 5: You think?

1392
01:15:39,412 --> 01:15:43,173
Speaker 22: She didn't share herself with glory in terms of you know,

1393
01:15:43,293 --> 01:15:45,652
Speaker 22: her ability to think on her feet or anything like that,

1394
01:15:46,213 --> 01:15:47,413
Speaker 22: and that lost.

1395
01:15:47,133 --> 01:15:47,692
Speaker 11: To the election.

1396
01:15:48,612 --> 01:15:52,452
Speaker 22: It just one one final point. I think the time

1397
01:15:52,692 --> 01:15:54,972
Speaker 22: people of the Person of the Year. I think it's

1398
01:15:55,173 --> 01:15:59,732
Speaker 22: a wonderful and actually a really really valid, I guess

1399
01:15:59,853 --> 01:16:01,932
Speaker 22: award record if you want to call it, and it

1400
01:16:01,973 --> 01:16:06,612
Speaker 22: always has been because it's really really brutally objective. I

1401
01:16:06,772 --> 01:16:09,612
Speaker 22: believe way back in the day Hitler won.

1402
01:16:10,013 --> 01:16:12,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, Adalf Hitler one Person of the Year in nineteen

1403
01:16:12,173 --> 01:16:14,492
Speaker 2: thirty eight, and Joseph Stalin won at ninety thirty nine

1404
01:16:14,532 --> 01:16:16,333
Speaker 2: and ninety forty two. That's why they say it's for

1405
01:16:16,412 --> 01:16:18,852
Speaker 2: good or for ELL's it's the biggest impact.

1406
01:16:20,053 --> 01:16:23,333
Speaker 22: It's not. It's not a popularity contest. It is a

1407
01:16:23,452 --> 01:16:27,333
Speaker 22: genuine appreciation for who said the most impact on the world.

1408
01:16:27,412 --> 01:16:30,412
Speaker 2: Although, to be fair, Tyler Taylor Swift won fair Taylor

1409
01:16:30,412 --> 01:16:32,772
Speaker 2: Swift one last year I believe, which I know it

1410
01:16:32,853 --> 01:16:35,253
Speaker 2: might have been smirch the reputation a little bit.

1411
01:16:36,692 --> 01:16:40,293
Speaker 22: Definitely, definitely, thanks Jack, Thank you very much.

1412
01:16:40,933 --> 01:16:43,213
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1413
01:16:43,213 --> 01:16:44,772
Speaker 3: to call. Couple of texts coming through a lot of

1414
01:16:44,772 --> 01:16:48,052
Speaker 3: support for Donald Trump taking out Time Person of the year.

1415
01:16:48,213 --> 01:16:50,253
Speaker 3: This year certainly looks to be the front runner. But

1416
01:16:50,372 --> 01:16:51,933
Speaker 3: love to hear from you on oh one hundred and

1417
01:16:51,933 --> 01:16:52,572
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty.

1418
01:16:52,492 --> 01:16:54,333
Speaker 2: Yes this Texas says, you may or may not have

1419
01:16:54,412 --> 01:16:56,652
Speaker 2: any time for Trump, but there's no question he is

1420
01:16:56,692 --> 01:17:01,213
Speaker 2: the most infamous or famous human of the year. And

1421
01:17:01,412 --> 01:17:05,932
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan and Elon Musk's nominations and even Krmla Harris's

1422
01:17:06,293 --> 01:17:08,572
Speaker 2: all circle around Donald Trump, don't.

1423
01:17:08,732 --> 01:17:12,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they do. The text number it is seven

1424
01:17:12,532 --> 01:17:13,172
Speaker 3: to three.

1425
01:17:14,412 --> 01:17:16,852
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1426
01:17:16,853 --> 01:17:20,293
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you

1427
01:17:20,452 --> 01:17:22,652
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four you talk, said.

1428
01:17:22,452 --> 01:17:26,213
Speaker 2: Be it is five to three, and we'll be talking

1429
01:17:26,213 --> 01:17:29,452
Speaker 2: about the Time magazine Person of the Year, the person

1430
01:17:29,492 --> 01:17:32,093
Speaker 2: that's had the biggest impact for good or ill, as

1431
01:17:32,133 --> 01:17:37,012
Speaker 2: they put it. The final shortlist involves Karmala Hallis, Krmala Harris,

1432
01:17:37,093 --> 01:17:42,092
Speaker 2: Kate Middleton, Elon mask Joe Rogan is in there, Donald Trump,

1433
01:17:42,133 --> 01:17:45,173
Speaker 2: Mark Zuckerberg. Tell you what, looking at these texts, it

1434
01:17:45,293 --> 01:17:47,892
Speaker 2: is very heavily in favor of Donald Trump.

1435
01:17:47,973 --> 01:17:50,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, Trump by a mile. I hope it goes to Rogan,

1436
01:17:50,173 --> 01:17:51,732
Speaker 3: but I think everybody's right if it.

1437
01:17:51,732 --> 01:17:54,652
Speaker 2: Was the ZB text machine, it would be Donald Trump

1438
01:17:54,692 --> 01:17:55,853
Speaker 2: then Joe Rogan.

1439
01:17:55,732 --> 01:18:00,612
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, good chat right after three o'clock, Man, Yeah,

1440
01:18:00,652 --> 01:18:02,012
Speaker 3: that's right, Tyler.

1441
01:18:02,053 --> 01:18:04,772
Speaker 2: After three o'clock. Is it possible to eat healthy over Christmas?

1442
01:18:04,772 --> 01:18:07,412
Speaker 2: We're going to lighten things up with some heavy food.

1443
01:18:07,732 --> 01:18:09,812
Speaker 2: Could you get through the break and stay even or

1444
01:18:09,853 --> 01:18:13,892
Speaker 2: actually lose weight this year? I'm planning to Is it possible?

1445
01:18:14,013 --> 01:18:14,133
Speaker 18: Weight?

1446
01:18:14,133 --> 01:18:16,492
Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty ten eighty nine, two ninety two?

1447
01:18:16,492 --> 01:18:18,093
Speaker 2: What are your tips new sport and weather?

1448
01:18:18,173 --> 01:18:19,932
Speaker 3: Or on it's way? You're listening to matt and Tyler.

1449
01:18:20,013 --> 01:18:25,572
Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you.

1450
01:18:24,973 --> 01:18:28,372
Speaker 2: Full of cozy, A cozy little Christmas?

1451
01:18:28,372 --> 01:18:35,452
Speaker 4: Here will you? Does you?

1452
01:18:35,612 --> 01:18:35,812
Speaker 13: And me?

1453
01:18:36,893 --> 01:18:42,412
Speaker 3: And a causey little Christmas?

1454
01:18:42,452 --> 01:18:42,612
Speaker 16: Here?

1455
01:18:42,652 --> 01:18:47,892
Speaker 1: Will you your new home for instateful and entertaining talk,

1456
01:18:48,013 --> 01:18:52,412
Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Tyler Adams afternoons on news Talk.

1457
01:18:52,293 --> 01:18:56,132
Speaker 3: Sebby, Hello, do you welcome back into the show? Seven

1458
01:18:56,293 --> 01:18:57,173
Speaker 3: past three?

1459
01:18:57,772 --> 01:18:59,892
Speaker 2: So, I think there's a lot of people across this

1460
01:19:00,293 --> 01:19:03,252
Speaker 2: beautiful country of ours that are heading into the Christmas

1461
01:19:03,253 --> 01:19:06,492
Speaker 2: break with a dream in mind. And it may not

1462
01:19:06,612 --> 01:19:09,492
Speaker 2: be an attainable dream, but I know I hold the stream,

1463
01:19:09,532 --> 01:19:11,692
Speaker 2: and I know I've held this dream in the past.

1464
01:19:11,933 --> 01:19:14,772
Speaker 2: It's the dream of getting through the Christmas break without

1465
01:19:15,013 --> 01:19:18,213
Speaker 2: piling on the pounds. Because there's a lot of food

1466
01:19:18,253 --> 01:19:20,812
Speaker 2: to be eaten, yes, and there's a lot of drinks

1467
01:19:20,812 --> 01:19:23,692
Speaker 2: to be drunk, and you have to be festive, and

1468
01:19:23,772 --> 01:19:26,772
Speaker 2: you've worked hard all year, and you deserve a break

1469
01:19:26,812 --> 01:19:29,972
Speaker 2: and you deserve to treat yourself. But is it possible

1470
01:19:30,013 --> 01:19:32,333
Speaker 2: to start the new year to return to work with

1471
01:19:32,452 --> 01:19:34,612
Speaker 2: a rock and bod, or at least a bod that's

1472
01:19:34,652 --> 01:19:37,293
Speaker 2: better than the one that you left with. Yeah, I'm

1473
01:19:37,333 --> 01:19:39,452
Speaker 2: not sure. I'm going to try it again this year,

1474
01:19:39,652 --> 01:19:41,612
Speaker 2: and I think there's a caveat And I'd love to

1475
01:19:41,612 --> 01:19:43,492
Speaker 2: hear people's opinion on this. On e one hundred and

1476
01:19:43,532 --> 01:19:46,453
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty nine nine two is the text message.

1477
01:19:47,013 --> 01:19:49,812
Speaker 2: I believe it's impolite to not stuff your face until

1478
01:19:49,853 --> 01:19:53,372
Speaker 2: you lose consciousness on Christmas Day. Yes, I believe that

1479
01:19:53,492 --> 01:19:57,532
Speaker 2: one you can't turn up to a family lunch and

1480
01:19:57,853 --> 01:20:01,572
Speaker 2: or dinner or whenever you choose to celebrate Christmas and

1481
01:20:01,692 --> 01:20:05,173
Speaker 2: not eat like a pig. That that's rude, that's impolite.

1482
01:20:05,492 --> 01:20:09,652
Speaker 2: But around that, can you run a healthy regime and

1483
01:20:09,692 --> 01:20:12,972
Speaker 2: actually use this break to get yourself in better shape

1484
01:20:13,013 --> 01:20:17,293
Speaker 2: and return in twenty twenty five more alive than ever.

1485
01:20:17,452 --> 01:20:19,333
Speaker 3: If you've got the strategy, we'd love to hear it,

1486
01:20:19,372 --> 01:20:21,973
Speaker 3: because I've tried this year after year after year, and

1487
01:20:22,013 --> 01:20:24,612
Speaker 3: I'm a sucker for pear precia, particularly when there's Christmas

1488
01:20:24,692 --> 01:20:28,732
Speaker 3: cocktails around. And as you say, I'm fully on the

1489
01:20:29,053 --> 01:20:31,133
Speaker 3: bandwagon that it is rude that if I turn up

1490
01:20:31,173 --> 01:20:33,173
Speaker 3: to the Christmas meal and they've done all this work

1491
01:20:33,173 --> 01:20:35,652
Speaker 3: and there's all this beautiful food and pastries and all

1492
01:20:35,692 --> 01:20:38,452
Speaker 3: this rubbish food that tastes really good, I go to town.

1493
01:20:38,532 --> 01:20:41,293
Speaker 3: I think that you absolutely have to, but it just

1494
01:20:41,333 --> 01:20:42,692
Speaker 3: carries on for me in the summer.

1495
01:20:42,772 --> 01:20:42,973
Speaker 2: You know.

1496
01:20:43,093 --> 01:20:46,412
Speaker 3: Then you get into New Year and there's more cocktails

1497
01:20:46,452 --> 01:20:48,092
Speaker 3: and more food on off ftales.

1498
01:20:48,093 --> 01:20:49,133
Speaker 2: Who drinks cocktail?

1499
01:20:49,253 --> 01:20:50,253
Speaker 3: I love a cocktail.

1500
01:20:50,412 --> 01:20:51,772
Speaker 2: You drink a cocktail here?

1501
01:20:51,893 --> 01:20:52,093
Speaker 18: Here?

1502
01:20:52,333 --> 01:20:55,572
Speaker 2: Geez mate? All right, okay, fair enough each there. I

1503
01:20:55,652 --> 01:20:58,372
Speaker 2: even suggest to this, and this may seem crazy, but

1504
01:20:58,572 --> 01:21:02,173
Speaker 2: it got shot down, but I sueduced it to my

1505
01:21:02,213 --> 01:21:05,412
Speaker 2: lovely partner. I said, how about on New Years just

1506
01:21:05,452 --> 01:21:08,893
Speaker 2: for once? And this sounds insane coming from me, and

1507
01:21:09,372 --> 01:21:11,532
Speaker 2: my twenty year old self would just be disgusted and

1508
01:21:12,293 --> 01:21:13,933
Speaker 2: get in a time machine and punch me in the

1509
01:21:13,973 --> 01:21:16,972
Speaker 2: face for this. But I suggested, what if we didn't

1510
01:21:17,013 --> 01:21:18,652
Speaker 2: go out on New Year's Eve, and what if we

1511
01:21:18,692 --> 01:21:20,892
Speaker 2: hadn't early one? And what if we got up early,

1512
01:21:21,532 --> 01:21:23,333
Speaker 2: because we'll be down in Topau. If we got up

1513
01:21:23,333 --> 01:21:29,093
Speaker 2: early and we climbed Mount Taharta and watched the sunset

1514
01:21:29,173 --> 01:21:33,133
Speaker 2: on a new year from atop a beautiful mountain looking

1515
01:21:33,133 --> 01:21:36,173
Speaker 2: out across the lake, sounds old and started the year

1516
01:21:36,173 --> 01:21:41,693
Speaker 2: afresh and inspired, rather than backing into the year feeling revolting.

1517
01:21:41,893 --> 01:21:43,452
Speaker 2: And because I mean, that's one of the weird things

1518
01:21:43,652 --> 01:21:47,133
Speaker 2: about New Year's Eve, as you celebrate the last year,

1519
01:21:47,213 --> 01:21:49,612
Speaker 2: but you start the new year on the back foot,

1520
01:21:50,253 --> 01:21:53,092
Speaker 2: you wake up feeling absolutely terrible. But that was rightly

1521
01:21:53,093 --> 01:21:53,612
Speaker 2: shot down.

1522
01:21:54,492 --> 01:21:55,093
Speaker 3: It was a big no.

1523
01:21:55,333 --> 01:21:57,372
Speaker 2: She said no. She said no to that, which is

1524
01:21:57,492 --> 01:22:00,412
Speaker 2: she's fitness she's really fitness focused, but not on that

1525
01:22:00,452 --> 01:22:03,973
Speaker 2: particular night. But yeah, I mean, is it possible? And

1526
01:22:04,333 --> 01:22:07,492
Speaker 2: what techniques can we employ? Eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1527
01:22:07,572 --> 01:22:10,572
Speaker 2: nineteen nine two the text number. This text has gone

1528
01:22:10,612 --> 01:22:13,053
Speaker 2: off as coming early with it's easy, fifty sit ups

1529
01:22:13,053 --> 01:22:15,213
Speaker 2: in the morning, fifty in the evening.

1530
01:22:16,213 --> 01:22:18,732
Speaker 3: They're just on the New Year's strategy. I mean, is

1531
01:22:18,772 --> 01:22:20,612
Speaker 3: there something in that as long as you make it

1532
01:22:20,612 --> 01:22:23,053
Speaker 3: to midnight and you have three or four and look,

1533
01:22:23,093 --> 01:22:25,293
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stick with the cocktails, thank you very much.

1534
01:22:25,452 --> 01:22:26,652
Speaker 3: You have three or for of them that you get

1535
01:22:26,652 --> 01:22:29,213
Speaker 3: to midnight, and then you kind of just slowly sort

1536
01:22:29,213 --> 01:22:31,932
Speaker 3: of slink off because I'm with you every Year's Day.

1537
01:22:32,133 --> 01:22:33,732
Speaker 3: There were two years ago that I spent the whole

1538
01:22:33,812 --> 01:22:36,053
Speaker 3: day New Year's Day in a tent because I was

1539
01:22:36,133 --> 01:22:38,612
Speaker 3: that much of a disgrace. I probably did some things

1540
01:22:38,612 --> 01:22:40,333
Speaker 3: the night before that, you know, I had to front

1541
01:22:40,412 --> 01:22:43,013
Speaker 3: up too, so I spent the whole Yeah, what a

1542
01:22:43,013 --> 01:22:44,893
Speaker 3: bad way checked it.

1543
01:22:44,893 --> 01:22:46,333
Speaker 2: You should have actually gone out of the police station

1544
01:22:46,372 --> 01:22:50,372
Speaker 2: and handed your behavior. Yeah, I mean there's I guess

1545
01:22:50,372 --> 01:22:52,452
Speaker 2: we're conflated. We've got two issues here. And look, we

1546
01:22:52,452 --> 01:22:54,933
Speaker 2: can run two issues simultaneously. We're smart enough to do

1547
01:22:55,013 --> 01:22:58,213
Speaker 2: that here at newstalk zb Met and Tyler afternoons. But

1548
01:22:58,253 --> 01:23:01,532
Speaker 2: there's two issues. Can you go through the Christmas break

1549
01:23:02,532 --> 01:23:05,173
Speaker 2: and come out fitter and healthier than you went in?

1550
01:23:05,732 --> 01:23:07,492
Speaker 2: Bearing in mind you have to stuff your face on

1551
01:23:07,532 --> 01:23:11,732
Speaker 2: Christmas Day? And secondly, is it possible and do you

1552
01:23:13,213 --> 01:23:15,812
Speaker 2: behave yourself on New Year's Eve and start the New

1553
01:23:15,893 --> 01:23:20,492
Speaker 2: Year's fresh and all bright eyed and bushy tailed. And

1554
01:23:20,532 --> 01:23:21,772
Speaker 2: there's that a good thing to do? And what is

1555
01:23:21,812 --> 01:23:25,052
Speaker 2: it like? I've never done it? I know I haven't

1556
01:23:25,093 --> 01:23:27,052
Speaker 2: done that since I was fifteen years old.

1557
01:23:27,173 --> 01:23:29,452
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the

1558
01:23:29,532 --> 01:23:32,293
Speaker 3: number to call. Nine two ninety two is the text number.

1559
01:23:32,412 --> 01:23:37,213
Speaker 3: It is twelve past three, Good afternoon, It is fourteen

1560
01:23:37,372 --> 01:23:41,213
Speaker 3: past three. Is there a way to be healthy over

1561
01:23:41,253 --> 01:23:44,932
Speaker 3: the Christmas period? We've both never never done it before,

1562
01:23:44,973 --> 01:23:46,652
Speaker 3: so love to hear if you've managed to do it. Oh,

1563
01:23:46,692 --> 01:23:48,932
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1564
01:23:49,412 --> 01:23:51,333
Speaker 2: I've got a text from my sisters come through here

1565
01:23:51,492 --> 01:23:54,692
Speaker 2: from my big sister, Hey, Matt, because I was talking

1566
01:23:54,692 --> 01:23:57,213
Speaker 2: about the possibility of staying sober on New Years even

1567
01:23:57,253 --> 01:24:00,372
Speaker 2: waking up all fresh and ready for twenty twenty five,

1568
01:24:00,812 --> 01:24:02,933
Speaker 2: and she said, Hey, Matt, you could come camping with

1569
01:24:03,013 --> 01:24:04,772
Speaker 2: us in the middle of nowhere for New Years. Remember

1570
01:24:04,812 --> 01:24:06,812
Speaker 2: that year you and Amelia and Felix and the boys

1571
01:24:06,853 --> 01:24:10,492
Speaker 2: climbed the Big hill at Perakanoi Bay on New Year's

1572
01:24:10,933 --> 01:24:13,532
Speaker 2: Except no, I can't. I had horrificing over that morning

1573
01:24:14,013 --> 01:24:14,652
Speaker 2: pounding head.

1574
01:24:15,812 --> 01:24:18,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. The sticks is there, as my parents

1575
01:24:18,333 --> 01:24:20,213
Speaker 3: always had to make an effort to make sure they

1576
01:24:20,532 --> 01:24:22,692
Speaker 3: had a quiet New Year's so they could be fresh

1577
01:24:22,732 --> 01:24:26,652
Speaker 3: for my birthday. And yeah, guys, sign up for an

1578
01:24:26,692 --> 01:24:29,772
Speaker 3: event like Horris h y r o X, which is

1579
01:24:29,812 --> 01:24:32,053
Speaker 3: at the start of February, makes you train over the

1580
01:24:32,093 --> 01:24:33,812
Speaker 3: holiday period and not completely blow out.

1581
01:24:33,853 --> 01:24:37,852
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's interesting. Put that in the list. I'm

1582
01:24:37,853 --> 01:24:39,492
Speaker 2: getting a lot of heat as well in my anti

1583
01:24:39,652 --> 01:24:43,532
Speaker 2: cocktail rhetoric because Tyler was just talking going on about

1584
01:24:43,572 --> 01:24:46,612
Speaker 2: how much he loves cocktails and it just fired me out.

1585
01:24:46,772 --> 01:24:47,652
Speaker 3: Didn't sit right with you?

1586
01:24:47,692 --> 01:24:47,933
Speaker 11: Did it?

1587
01:24:48,133 --> 01:24:51,452
Speaker 3: Your sisters come back as well? But yeah, I mean

1588
01:24:51,492 --> 01:24:53,572
Speaker 3: I'm all about the Christmas cocktails. I was a slow

1589
01:24:53,612 --> 01:24:57,253
Speaker 3: starter to the Christmas God cocktails. You gotta be careful

1590
01:24:57,293 --> 01:24:59,732
Speaker 3: with that word. Margarita's summer.

1591
01:25:00,372 --> 01:25:02,973
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no whiling away on Mardigareitaville. I've

1592
01:25:02,973 --> 01:25:05,612
Speaker 2: got a bit of time for that. Absolutely, yes, So

1593
01:25:05,692 --> 01:25:10,253
Speaker 2: let's go to Dave. You've had some success around staying

1594
01:25:10,293 --> 01:25:13,812
Speaker 2: healthy across the Christmas period and not coming out worse

1595
01:25:13,853 --> 01:25:14,452
Speaker 2: than you went in.

1596
01:25:15,973 --> 01:25:18,933
Speaker 16: Well, not just the Christmas period, as I explained to

1597
01:25:19,013 --> 01:25:20,853
Speaker 16: the chapter answer the phone.

1598
01:25:21,933 --> 01:25:23,053
Speaker 11: I only eat once a.

1599
01:25:23,013 --> 01:25:25,852
Speaker 16: Day and have done so for about twenty five years,

1600
01:25:25,893 --> 01:25:30,133
Speaker 16: and I've mastered the art of not stuffing myself ten

1601
01:25:30,213 --> 01:25:35,492
Speaker 16: times a day. But you know, there's only as long

1602
01:25:35,532 --> 01:25:40,213
Speaker 16: as you accept the harsh reality that food in equals

1603
01:25:40,452 --> 01:25:43,812
Speaker 16: weight on and the more you eat, the more you're

1604
01:25:43,853 --> 01:25:46,013
Speaker 16: going to put on weight. And all the exercise in

1605
01:25:46,093 --> 01:25:50,293
Speaker 16: the world won't get rid of weight, other than the

1606
01:25:50,333 --> 01:25:53,293
Speaker 16: fact that you might not be eating while you're exercising.

1607
01:25:53,372 --> 01:25:57,213
Speaker 16: But the exercise in and of itself won't get rid

1608
01:25:57,253 --> 01:25:59,372
Speaker 16: of weight, never has.

1609
01:25:59,333 --> 01:25:59,892
Speaker 11: Never will.

1610
01:26:00,173 --> 01:26:02,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it does a lot of other good for you.

1611
01:26:02,173 --> 01:26:02,372
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1612
01:26:02,372 --> 01:26:04,293
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't necessarily need to exercise just for

1613
01:26:04,333 --> 01:26:07,493
Speaker 2: the weight, but you need to exercise it otherwise you become.

1614
01:26:07,253 --> 01:26:10,772
Speaker 16: A a lot of exercise. But I do it all

1615
01:26:10,812 --> 01:26:12,012
Speaker 16: on one meal a day.

1616
01:26:12,173 --> 01:26:15,412
Speaker 2: But we'll just good on you, good on you. Do

1617
01:26:15,452 --> 01:26:17,093
Speaker 2: you have one on Christmas Day?

1618
01:26:17,133 --> 01:26:17,293
Speaker 11: Though?

1619
01:26:17,412 --> 01:26:20,333
Speaker 2: So on Christmas Day? Do you do you have a

1620
01:26:20,333 --> 01:26:22,253
Speaker 2: big Do you have a big blowout on Christmas Day?

1621
01:26:22,293 --> 01:26:23,892
Speaker 2: Will you only eat once then? Or do you have

1622
01:26:23,893 --> 01:26:24,973
Speaker 2: some exceptions?

1623
01:26:25,732 --> 01:26:30,053
Speaker 16: No? No, I never make an exception because if I

1624
01:26:30,133 --> 01:26:33,173
Speaker 16: eat these days more than one meal a day. All

1625
01:26:33,253 --> 01:26:35,732
Speaker 16: I want to do is go to sleep and feel

1626
01:26:35,772 --> 01:26:39,253
Speaker 16: disgusted with myself. But I still managed to drink high

1627
01:26:39,293 --> 01:26:40,892
Speaker 16: alcohol beer every day of.

1628
01:26:40,812 --> 01:26:41,412
Speaker 11: The year too.

1629
01:26:41,692 --> 01:26:42,772
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's something.

1630
01:26:44,293 --> 01:26:46,692
Speaker 16: It's all about how much food you eat, and that's

1631
01:26:46,692 --> 01:26:49,652
Speaker 16: the harsh reality that nobody wants to face up to

1632
01:26:49,692 --> 01:26:54,132
Speaker 16: you and the diet industries love it.

1633
01:26:54,412 --> 01:26:55,973
Speaker 3: But Dave, isn't there a part of you? So you

1634
01:26:55,973 --> 01:26:59,213
Speaker 3: turn up to your family Christmas dinner and someone's put

1635
01:26:59,253 --> 01:27:02,053
Speaker 3: on this massive spread with all the tramines, and then

1636
01:27:02,093 --> 01:27:04,253
Speaker 3: you look at them and say, hey, look, I'm really sorry.

1637
01:27:04,253 --> 01:27:05,933
Speaker 3: I can only have a little bit because I'm on

1638
01:27:05,973 --> 01:27:07,372
Speaker 3: the one meal of day. Die.

1639
01:27:08,893 --> 01:27:12,333
Speaker 16: Yeah I do. I do say that, you know, but

1640
01:27:12,452 --> 01:27:15,732
Speaker 16: I always make sure I take something home. But I

1641
01:27:15,772 --> 01:27:18,452
Speaker 16: mean I can spend the whole day just watching everyone

1642
01:27:18,492 --> 01:27:21,973
Speaker 16: else and eat because I've trained myself to do so.

1643
01:27:22,133 --> 01:27:25,492
Speaker 16: But I have on the odd occasion over the years

1644
01:27:26,572 --> 01:27:27,213
Speaker 16: blowing out.

1645
01:27:27,372 --> 01:27:32,772
Speaker 2: As they say, Yeah, I think it's an important part

1646
01:27:32,812 --> 01:27:35,293
Speaker 2: of Christmas, eating so much that you feel disgusting. At

1647
01:27:35,293 --> 01:27:37,772
Speaker 2: about three o'clock, you fall asleep on the couch and

1648
01:27:37,933 --> 01:27:40,892
Speaker 2: wake up just feeling terrible. That's I think that's part

1649
01:27:40,933 --> 01:27:42,852
Speaker 2: of honoring your family at Christmas.

1650
01:27:43,213 --> 01:27:45,293
Speaker 16: I think the best way to do it, if you're

1651
01:27:45,293 --> 01:27:47,652
Speaker 16: going to do that, is get drunk first, because then

1652
01:27:47,692 --> 01:27:48,772
Speaker 16: you don't care as much.

1653
01:27:50,812 --> 01:27:53,133
Speaker 2: I like your approach. It's a very yin and yang

1654
01:27:53,133 --> 01:27:55,933
Speaker 2: approach to health. You're giving it and taking at the

1655
01:27:55,973 --> 01:27:58,852
Speaker 2: same time. That's that's admirable. Thanks so much for your call, Dave.

1656
01:27:59,173 --> 01:28:02,372
Speaker 3: Cheers day. Just on the exercise over Christmas. And this

1657
01:28:02,532 --> 01:28:04,652
Speaker 3: is something that happened each year when we go to

1658
01:28:04,692 --> 01:28:07,612
Speaker 3: the mobrasounds. Mate's parents are very lucky to ever placed there,

1659
01:28:07,652 --> 01:28:10,012
Speaker 3: but her dad is he's a bit of a fitness

1660
01:28:10,053 --> 01:28:13,293
Speaker 3: freak and he's got what they call the triathlon every

1661
01:28:13,452 --> 01:28:16,452
Speaker 3: year and if not everybody does it, he gets really grumpy.

1662
01:28:16,812 --> 01:28:19,052
Speaker 3: And my, oh my. I mean there was a strategy

1663
01:28:19,053 --> 01:28:20,852
Speaker 3: to it. The last time I tried to do it

1664
01:28:20,893 --> 01:28:25,412
Speaker 3: after New Year's Night and it's a cycle up a

1665
01:28:25,412 --> 01:28:27,972
Speaker 3: massive hurl and then we've got to run about three

1666
01:28:28,053 --> 01:28:30,213
Speaker 3: k and then it was a swim and it's only

1667
01:28:30,213 --> 01:28:32,293
Speaker 3: about a five hundred meter swim in the sea.

1668
01:28:32,293 --> 01:28:34,692
Speaker 2: So like a like a miniature triathlon.

1669
01:28:34,253 --> 01:28:37,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, miniature triathlon. And did the cycle. My time was

1670
01:28:37,133 --> 01:28:38,893
Speaker 3: terrible and I kind of pushed the bike up the

1671
01:28:38,933 --> 01:28:40,692
Speaker 3: hell a little bit. If you're listening now, Pete, Yes,

1672
01:28:40,772 --> 01:28:42,972
Speaker 3: I cheated a little bit. Then the run was okay,

1673
01:28:43,013 --> 01:28:45,732
Speaker 3: but then I got into the water and started struggling,

1674
01:28:45,812 --> 01:28:47,732
Speaker 3: and I was hanging on to the boys in the

1675
01:28:48,013 --> 01:28:49,653
Speaker 3: in the bay for dear life.

1676
01:28:49,372 --> 01:28:51,613
Speaker 2: The boys or the boys, well boys.

1677
01:28:51,333 --> 01:28:52,652
Speaker 3: If there was a boy there, I would have held

1678
01:28:52,652 --> 01:28:54,213
Speaker 3: on for him for dear life as well. But yeah,

1679
01:28:54,293 --> 01:28:57,213
Speaker 3: the boys are sitting there because I just could not

1680
01:28:57,293 --> 01:29:00,293
Speaker 3: get round this really yeah. And everybody was up on

1681
01:29:00,333 --> 01:29:02,612
Speaker 3: the deck at the batch screaming going come on, Tyler,

1682
01:29:02,692 --> 01:29:04,213
Speaker 3: come on. And then they saw me hanging on the

1683
01:29:04,253 --> 01:29:07,053
Speaker 3: boys and I could just hear the oh no. And

1684
01:29:07,133 --> 01:29:10,013
Speaker 3: at one stage the young came down almost jumped in

1685
01:29:10,053 --> 01:29:11,532
Speaker 3: the water to save me. That was the last time

1686
01:29:11,532 --> 01:29:12,772
Speaker 3: I did the triathlon, never again.

1687
01:29:12,853 --> 01:29:17,732
Speaker 2: Empathetic, I mean, jumping in cold water is the best way, like,

1688
01:29:17,812 --> 01:29:20,492
Speaker 2: no matter no matter what you've done in terms of

1689
01:29:20,532 --> 01:29:23,372
Speaker 2: your festivities, no matter how far you've pushed the boat out,

1690
01:29:23,973 --> 01:29:28,372
Speaker 2: jumping in the water and that's pun not intended. Jumping

1691
01:29:28,652 --> 01:29:30,852
Speaker 2: in cold water is the best way to start a year,

1692
01:29:30,893 --> 01:29:31,692
Speaker 2: no matter how you're feeling.

1693
01:29:31,893 --> 01:29:32,652
Speaker 3: The great reset.

1694
01:29:32,772 --> 01:29:34,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I did that last year, wasn't feeling

1695
01:29:34,893 --> 01:29:37,772
Speaker 2: great after a mass of New Year's Eve and jumped

1696
01:29:37,772 --> 01:29:41,692
Speaker 2: in Lake topoor and nearly nearly fixed me.

1697
01:29:41,973 --> 01:29:44,972
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty eight as the number to call,

1698
01:29:45,053 --> 01:29:48,293
Speaker 3: nine two nine two. Can you have a healthy fest

1699
01:29:48,333 --> 01:29:50,812
Speaker 3: of season? Love to hear from you if you've managed

1700
01:29:50,853 --> 01:29:55,052
Speaker 3: to achieve it? And secondary questions should you yeah? Good question?

1701
01:29:55,532 --> 01:29:58,452
Speaker 2: Or you just ruining your holiday by putting unreal realistic

1702
01:29:58,492 --> 01:29:59,652
Speaker 2: expectations on yourself.

1703
01:29:59,772 --> 01:30:01,372
Speaker 3: It is twenty past.

1704
01:30:01,133 --> 01:30:09,213
Speaker 7: Three Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons Oh eight hundred

1705
01:30:09,293 --> 01:30:11,412
Speaker 7: eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

1706
01:30:11,692 --> 01:30:15,093
Speaker 3: Twenty three past three, where asking the question can you

1707
01:30:15,173 --> 01:30:17,852
Speaker 3: and should you have a healthy festive season?

1708
01:30:17,933 --> 01:30:19,692
Speaker 2: And is it or is it just kidding yourself? Because

1709
01:30:19,732 --> 01:30:23,612
Speaker 2: right now I'm picturing just powering through the break and

1710
01:30:23,692 --> 01:30:27,732
Speaker 2: coming out returning to news Talk ZB afternoons with Tyler

1711
01:30:28,492 --> 01:30:31,213
Speaker 2: more healthy than I am right now. Never done it before?

1712
01:30:31,293 --> 01:30:32,212
Speaker 2: But is it possible?

1713
01:30:32,612 --> 01:30:34,893
Speaker 3: Steven, you reckon it is possible.

1714
01:30:36,093 --> 01:30:36,892
Speaker 5: If that's our year.

1715
01:30:37,053 --> 01:30:39,173
Speaker 23: So what I do is every year is I pace

1716
01:30:39,293 --> 01:30:42,253
Speaker 23: myself leading up to the big day because I know

1717
01:30:42,372 --> 01:30:46,213
Speaker 23: that when the big day comes, I've got the cream

1718
01:30:46,253 --> 01:30:51,492
Speaker 23: power Seper Charter three fish Stebber. You know, I kind

1719
01:30:51,492 --> 01:30:53,493
Speaker 23: of like have the barbecue because I have the barbecue

1720
01:30:54,133 --> 01:30:56,692
Speaker 23: following there. But yeah, I just I go hard, made

1721
01:30:56,692 --> 01:30:59,372
Speaker 23: I eat till it earth and then worry about it

1722
01:30:59,452 --> 01:31:01,333
Speaker 23: later and then but aswimming the next DAYE kind of

1723
01:31:01,372 --> 01:31:02,532
Speaker 23: burns things up a little bit.

1724
01:31:02,652 --> 01:31:05,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, where do you live to get all that? Kai mowana, Stephen?

1725
01:31:05,692 --> 01:31:07,412
Speaker 3: That sounds amazing.

1726
01:31:08,173 --> 01:31:10,812
Speaker 23: Here enough north of mean ketch up with the final

1727
01:31:10,933 --> 01:31:13,133
Speaker 23: up there. So yeah, it's been a long thom since

1728
01:31:13,133 --> 01:31:15,452
Speaker 23: I hit a dream po and then some seafood because

1729
01:31:15,452 --> 01:31:17,933
Speaker 23: it's just too expensive and ugling at the moment. But

1730
01:31:17,973 --> 01:31:19,412
Speaker 23: I'll tell you what, I don't hold back when I

1731
01:31:19,412 --> 01:31:19,692
Speaker 23: get to you.

1732
01:31:20,572 --> 01:31:23,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, a bit bit, So go hard on Christmas Day

1733
01:31:23,213 --> 01:31:24,852
Speaker 3: and after that, Steve and Ed do you get yourself

1734
01:31:24,893 --> 01:31:25,492
Speaker 3: back on track?

1735
01:31:26,652 --> 01:31:26,812
Speaker 14: Uh?

1736
01:31:27,333 --> 01:31:30,572
Speaker 23: Just a lot of swimming. But I'm walking and just

1737
01:31:30,812 --> 01:31:33,133
Speaker 23: we put the phone all like because the reception is

1738
01:31:33,173 --> 01:31:34,652
Speaker 23: bad anyway, So it's not like you're going to be

1739
01:31:34,652 --> 01:31:37,572
Speaker 23: sitting down there looking at Facebook. So yeah, it's not

1740
01:31:37,692 --> 01:31:39,612
Speaker 23: for bad receptions. So it just means you have to.

1741
01:31:39,572 --> 01:31:40,892
Speaker 5: Get out and go out and about them.

1742
01:31:41,213 --> 01:31:43,892
Speaker 3: You do a bit of swimming, chopping some file Yeah,

1743
01:31:44,093 --> 01:31:44,933
Speaker 3: love it, love it.

1744
01:31:45,492 --> 01:31:48,172
Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, just yeah, just take it back to the basics.

1745
01:31:48,812 --> 01:31:49,852
Speaker 11: Just switch off for a little.

1746
01:31:49,692 --> 01:31:53,012
Speaker 23: Bit and then again then come back and yeah, doing

1747
01:31:53,053 --> 01:31:54,253
Speaker 23: all again for twenty twenty five.

1748
01:31:54,692 --> 01:31:55,213
Speaker 3: So good.

1749
01:31:56,133 --> 01:31:58,692
Speaker 2: Thank you for your Thank you for cool Steven. Appreciate

1750
01:31:58,732 --> 01:32:00,492
Speaker 2: it kids.

1751
01:32:00,893 --> 01:32:04,612
Speaker 3: Cheers man, Uh, plenty of ticks coming through on nine

1752
01:32:04,732 --> 01:32:05,412
Speaker 3: to nine two.

1753
01:32:05,612 --> 01:32:07,213
Speaker 2: I think we've got a text from the grunch here.

1754
01:32:08,333 --> 01:32:10,933
Speaker 2: I do the mainstream media, like yourselves, always go on

1755
01:32:10,973 --> 01:32:13,732
Speaker 2: about holidays over Christmas when a large percentage of our

1756
01:32:13,732 --> 01:32:16,932
Speaker 2: community either have to or choose to work. Are those

1757
01:32:16,973 --> 01:32:20,012
Speaker 2: that are simple nine to five as Monday to Friday

1758
01:32:20,053 --> 01:32:22,013
Speaker 2: the majority or the minority? Would love to know if

1759
01:32:22,053 --> 01:32:24,572
Speaker 2: this can be found. I have not had three weeks

1760
01:32:24,612 --> 01:32:28,972
Speaker 2: off over Exmas for over twenty years, but that's my choice. Yeah, okay, Well,

1761
01:32:29,013 --> 01:32:32,213
Speaker 2: I'm sure some people do work over and your so

1762
01:32:32,732 --> 01:32:35,812
Speaker 2: because some people don't have a break over Christmas, we

1763
01:32:35,853 --> 01:32:39,732
Speaker 2: shouldn't talk about a breakover Christmas. I think it is

1764
01:32:39,772 --> 01:32:45,213
Speaker 2: a well known thing that people take the statutory holidays off.

1765
01:32:45,333 --> 01:32:46,372
Speaker 2: Yeah over Christmas.

1766
01:32:46,412 --> 01:32:48,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you're working over Christmas, credit to you,

1767
01:32:48,532 --> 01:32:50,812
Speaker 3: but you're on you. Most people are having a break.

1768
01:32:50,893 --> 01:32:54,252
Speaker 2: But Simon doesn't think we should talk about the Christmas

1769
01:32:54,333 --> 01:32:57,132
Speaker 2: break at all, because some people don't take a Christmas break.

1770
01:32:57,492 --> 01:33:00,492
Speaker 2: I mean, if you only talked about things that one

1771
01:33:00,612 --> 01:33:03,452
Speaker 2: hundred percent of people do, then there wouldn't be much

1772
01:33:03,452 --> 01:33:04,333
Speaker 2: to talk about with them.

1773
01:33:04,412 --> 01:33:04,612
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1774
01:33:04,692 --> 01:33:06,973
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to

1775
01:33:07,013 --> 01:33:10,133
Speaker 3: call love to hear from you, Jeremy, You reckon, You've

1776
01:33:10,133 --> 01:33:12,372
Speaker 3: achieved a pretty healthy fist of season.

1777
01:33:14,492 --> 01:33:17,852
Speaker 24: Absolutely pretty much every Christmas season, well especially for us,

1778
01:33:17,853 --> 01:33:20,092
Speaker 24: because I take the top off, it's pretty active anyway

1779
01:33:20,093 --> 01:33:23,492
Speaker 24: you're out swimming or doing whatever you're doing. So even

1780
01:33:23,532 --> 01:33:25,732
Speaker 24: though you do indulge on the likes of Christmas Day

1781
01:33:26,692 --> 01:33:29,412
Speaker 24: and candy for a New Years, there's always something service

1782
01:33:29,452 --> 01:33:31,333
Speaker 24: here about to beat your swimming.

1783
01:33:31,372 --> 01:33:32,452
Speaker 11: Some actives that mine's not.

1784
01:33:32,812 --> 01:33:35,092
Speaker 24: I find I lose a little bit of way both periods,

1785
01:33:35,093 --> 01:33:36,932
Speaker 24: just because you're way more active than what you used

1786
01:33:36,973 --> 01:33:38,652
Speaker 24: to be in the office or doing whatever you do.

1787
01:33:39,772 --> 01:33:41,812
Speaker 3: Is that pretty hard though? When you know, if there's

1788
01:33:42,412 --> 01:33:45,132
Speaker 3: family events going on and it's the fist of season

1789
01:33:45,253 --> 01:33:47,532
Speaker 3: and the drinks and the cocktails are flowing, is that

1790
01:33:47,612 --> 01:33:48,492
Speaker 3: pretty hard to stay on?

1791
01:33:48,572 --> 01:33:48,772
Speaker 6: Trick?

1792
01:33:51,333 --> 01:33:54,213
Speaker 24: No, I teend to think personally that we're losing New

1793
01:33:54,293 --> 01:33:55,492
Speaker 24: Zealand as and losing your love a.

1794
01:33:55,492 --> 01:33:59,452
Speaker 5: Fields alcohol a little bit. For me, I drink way

1795
01:33:59,532 --> 01:34:01,133
Speaker 5: less than what I used to. It's much to be

1796
01:34:01,173 --> 01:34:05,812
Speaker 5: of age. But all my natribs ACU the same. Yeah,

1797
01:34:06,412 --> 01:34:08,053
Speaker 5: I just don't think I think we have that same

1798
01:34:08,093 --> 01:34:09,253
Speaker 5: re The alcohols we.

1799
01:34:09,293 --> 01:34:11,293
Speaker 24: Head on kids nowadays are probably a little bit more

1800
01:34:11,293 --> 01:34:14,372
Speaker 24: teward when I was eighteen as well.

1801
01:34:15,013 --> 01:34:20,092
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and so so in terms of your exercise regime,

1802
01:34:20,133 --> 01:34:21,732
Speaker 3: have you roped some of the family members into that?

1803
01:34:23,652 --> 01:34:27,932
Speaker 5: My family probably that yours are just ultra competitives. There's

1804
01:34:27,973 --> 01:34:31,892
Speaker 5: always something to do, and yeah it does my head,

1805
01:34:32,933 --> 01:34:35,293
Speaker 5: but you take just because it's fun and it's a

1806
01:34:35,412 --> 01:34:36,173
Speaker 5: fun family thing.

1807
01:34:36,893 --> 01:34:40,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, love it, Jeremy, Thank you very much. There

1808
01:34:40,532 --> 01:34:43,652
Speaker 3: is a text to supporting yourself Matt and me for

1809
01:34:43,732 --> 01:34:46,093
Speaker 3: that matter. It sounds like that grinch Simon needs the

1810
01:34:46,173 --> 01:34:50,132
Speaker 3: Christmas breaks for yourself man. Yeah, great text.

1811
01:34:52,013 --> 01:34:54,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was furious that we're what do you want

1812
01:34:54,652 --> 01:34:57,892
Speaker 2: us to do that we're talking about? No, I get it,

1813
01:34:57,933 --> 01:35:00,093
Speaker 2: and look I tell you what, good on you? I

1814
01:35:00,253 --> 01:35:03,612
Speaker 2: get on you. The police officers, the nurses, all the

1815
01:35:03,612 --> 01:35:06,173
Speaker 2: people that keep our country going over the Christmas break.

1816
01:35:06,492 --> 01:35:09,892
Speaker 2: Bless but a lot of us take a break. I

1817
01:35:09,973 --> 01:35:12,932
Speaker 2: take a break every year, and I'm thoroughly looking forward

1818
01:35:12,973 --> 01:35:14,013
Speaker 2: to it, and there's nothing wrong with.

1819
01:35:13,933 --> 01:35:16,253
Speaker 3: That, absolutely, And can I just mention he said that

1820
01:35:16,452 --> 01:35:18,892
Speaker 3: was his choice working over the Christmas break. So come

1821
01:35:18,893 --> 01:35:21,933
Speaker 3: on mate, right, I'll tell you what after the headlines.

1822
01:35:22,333 --> 01:35:24,852
Speaker 3: A man who would be very interesting to chat to

1823
01:35:24,933 --> 01:35:28,613
Speaker 3: about this is Dave Lettelli, also known as the Brown Butterbean.

1824
01:35:28,692 --> 01:35:30,932
Speaker 3: Will have a cheat to him very shortly, but keen

1825
01:35:30,973 --> 01:35:32,412
Speaker 3: to hear from you as well. Oh eight hundred and

1826
01:35:32,412 --> 01:35:34,612
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Nine two

1827
01:35:34,732 --> 01:35:37,173
Speaker 3: nine two is the text number. Headlines coming up.

1828
01:35:40,253 --> 01:35:42,652
Speaker 7: You talk said, be headlines.

1829
01:35:42,253 --> 01:35:45,532
Speaker 14: With blue bubble taxis It's no trouble with a blue bubble.

1830
01:35:45,933 --> 01:35:49,132
Speaker 14: Canterbury Fire and emergency teams are pulling out the stops

1831
01:35:49,173 --> 01:35:51,852
Speaker 14: to fight a series of grass fires from the sky

1832
01:35:52,053 --> 01:35:55,733
Speaker 14: and on the ground near Burnham along State Highway one.

1833
01:35:55,812 --> 01:35:59,772
Speaker 14: A section of the road is closed. The acc Minister

1834
01:35:59,812 --> 01:36:02,652
Speaker 14: has announced a review of the scheme, looking at whether

1835
01:36:02,732 --> 01:36:06,492
Speaker 14: the accident insurer has settings right to support claimants. Back

1836
01:36:06,532 --> 01:36:11,372
Speaker 14: to independence advocacy group Mission home Front has asked the

1837
01:36:11,372 --> 01:36:15,012
Speaker 14: Defense Minister to reconsider canceling Christmas and New Year's leave

1838
01:36:15,412 --> 01:36:19,053
Speaker 14: for military personnel being pulled and to cover strikes from

1839
01:36:19,093 --> 01:36:23,372
Speaker 14: non uniform staff. Auckland police are asking people to help

1840
01:36:23,412 --> 01:36:27,372
Speaker 14: them find missing tour Bay sixteen year old Elizabeth. She's

1841
01:36:27,412 --> 01:36:30,612
Speaker 14: one hundred and sixty five centimeters tall with light brown

1842
01:36:30,612 --> 01:36:33,892
Speaker 14: hair and blue eyes. She may be in downtown Auckland

1843
01:36:34,053 --> 01:36:38,652
Speaker 14: or possibly around Karrangajape Road in New Zealand's planning to

1844
01:36:38,692 --> 01:36:42,932
Speaker 14: fly its first demonstrator electric aircraft around the country from

1845
01:36:43,013 --> 01:36:45,892
Speaker 14: mid to next year. It's a year ahead of schedule.

1846
01:36:46,772 --> 01:36:50,492
Speaker 14: Why humidity makes us so irritable and exhausted and how

1847
01:36:50,572 --> 01:36:53,133
Speaker 14: you can cope? You can find out more at Ends

1848
01:36:53,173 --> 01:36:56,092
Speaker 14: and Herald Premium. Now back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

1849
01:36:56,093 --> 01:36:56,852
Speaker 3: Thank you, Rayleen.

1850
01:36:57,053 --> 01:37:00,333
Speaker 2: I've a dream that I shared earlier around getting through

1851
01:37:00,372 --> 01:37:03,333
Speaker 2: the Christmas break in the festive season and coming out

1852
01:37:03,372 --> 01:37:05,772
Speaker 2: fitter and more healthy than I go in. I've had

1853
01:37:05,772 --> 01:37:07,692
Speaker 2: that dream every year for a number of years, and

1854
01:37:07,772 --> 01:37:11,772
Speaker 2: every year I've failed and I've over indulged. Is it possible?

1855
01:37:12,013 --> 01:37:13,892
Speaker 2: Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine two

1856
01:37:13,933 --> 01:37:17,173
Speaker 2: is the text number. Here's one of those. For forty

1857
01:37:17,253 --> 01:37:19,452
Speaker 2: nine years of my life. Mum has made a huge

1858
01:37:19,452 --> 01:37:22,053
Speaker 2: pavlova for our Christmas Day meal, no choice but to

1859
01:37:22,053 --> 01:37:24,213
Speaker 2: eat it and put on some weight from Mike. See, yeah,

1860
01:37:24,572 --> 01:37:27,572
Speaker 2: I think on Christmas Day. Yeah, you have to enjoy

1861
01:37:27,692 --> 01:37:30,532
Speaker 2: some treats on Christmas Day. It's part of celebrating the

1862
01:37:30,532 --> 01:37:31,692
Speaker 2: special time with your family.

1863
01:37:31,772 --> 01:37:34,173
Speaker 3: Definitely. When Mum puts on a massive pavlover and you

1864
01:37:34,213 --> 01:37:36,093
Speaker 3: tune up because you're on the health binge and say

1865
01:37:36,293 --> 01:37:38,253
Speaker 3: I only want a tiny slice, Mum, and see that

1866
01:37:38,492 --> 01:37:40,932
Speaker 3: upside down smile on your face, You'll break your heart.

1867
01:37:41,053 --> 01:37:42,732
Speaker 2: It's the days around Christmas Day.

1868
01:37:43,053 --> 01:37:46,612
Speaker 3: Yeah. On the line is Dave Letelly, you kid, he Dave,

1869
01:37:47,652 --> 01:37:50,973
Speaker 3: eighteen hours are going very good. Now you know a

1870
01:37:50,973 --> 01:37:53,133
Speaker 3: lot about this sort of thing, Dave, so you reckon

1871
01:37:53,173 --> 01:37:56,212
Speaker 3: it's is it easy to have a healthy Christmas?

1872
01:37:57,213 --> 01:38:00,333
Speaker 6: Oh? Look I just messaged and you know something one

1873
01:38:00,333 --> 01:38:03,053
Speaker 6: of my mentors told me a long time ago. I've

1874
01:38:03,053 --> 01:38:05,492
Speaker 6: managed to lose one hundred kilos and keep most of it.

1875
01:38:05,532 --> 01:38:09,052
Speaker 6: I'll come in helping others as well, and always worries

1876
01:38:09,093 --> 01:38:11,732
Speaker 6: what they do between Christmas and New Year. But you

1877
01:38:11,772 --> 01:38:13,293
Speaker 6: know the main thing is what we do between New

1878
01:38:13,333 --> 01:38:18,293
Speaker 6: Years and Christmas. That's like, like, do you ever be

1879
01:38:18,333 --> 01:38:20,612
Speaker 6: worrying about what you're doing all through the year, Like,

1880
01:38:20,692 --> 01:38:23,372
Speaker 6: you know, there's no point starting between Christmas.

1881
01:38:23,053 --> 01:38:24,293
Speaker 11: And New Year? You know.

1882
01:38:24,812 --> 01:38:27,213
Speaker 6: But but the other thing is, you know, it's all

1883
01:38:27,213 --> 01:38:29,732
Speaker 6: about it's not about just having a six pack run.

1884
01:38:29,732 --> 01:38:31,492
Speaker 6: It's not being healthy and happy, and part of that

1885
01:38:31,612 --> 01:38:34,173
Speaker 6: is enjoying those times and moments with your family.

1886
01:38:34,293 --> 01:38:34,492
Speaker 14: You know.

1887
01:38:34,692 --> 01:38:37,012
Speaker 6: That's part of living a healthy, maintainable lifestyle.

1888
01:38:37,333 --> 01:38:39,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I guess the reason why I'm thinking about

1889
01:38:39,652 --> 01:38:41,892
Speaker 2: doing it over the break is because I ever been

1890
01:38:41,893 --> 01:38:44,412
Speaker 2: doing it all year, so I'm always looking. I'm always

1891
01:38:44,412 --> 01:38:45,652
Speaker 2: looking for a moment to start.

1892
01:38:46,412 --> 01:38:46,612
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1893
01:38:46,652 --> 01:38:48,932
Speaker 6: Well, they well that thing the first rule, just start,

1894
01:38:49,013 --> 01:38:51,253
Speaker 6: don't don't don't ever think it's start right now. So

1895
01:38:51,532 --> 01:38:53,213
Speaker 6: the thing is as well as like Christmas in year

1896
01:38:53,293 --> 01:38:55,173
Speaker 6: is only two days, Christmas one day and New Years

1897
01:38:55,173 --> 01:38:56,852
Speaker 6: and another day. So you know, it's only you know,

1898
01:38:56,853 --> 01:38:58,532
Speaker 6: you're going to have treat meals. That's fine, have those

1899
01:38:58,532 --> 01:39:01,133
Speaker 6: two treat mills every other day. Just do your normal stuff.

1900
01:39:01,173 --> 01:39:03,213
Speaker 6: You know, we don't have to all meet up and

1901
01:39:03,572 --> 01:39:05,852
Speaker 6: have big feeds and drink us. We can meet up

1902
01:39:05,853 --> 01:39:07,492
Speaker 6: as friends and family and go for a walk call,

1903
01:39:07,652 --> 01:39:09,372
Speaker 6: you know, a high or do a workout and all

1904
01:39:09,372 --> 01:39:10,612
Speaker 6: those types of healthier things.

1905
01:39:10,853 --> 01:39:11,053
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1906
01:39:11,093 --> 01:39:13,013
Speaker 2: Well, I think definitely if you can get out for

1907
01:39:13,213 --> 01:39:16,412
Speaker 2: a post Christmas lunch walk, that does a lot for

1908
01:39:16,692 --> 01:39:20,213
Speaker 2: for for everyone everyone involved, you know, in terms of

1909
01:39:20,253 --> 01:39:22,412
Speaker 2: that food coma that you sometimes go into.

1910
01:39:23,093 --> 01:39:25,812
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's not just like what's good for you physically,

1911
01:39:25,853 --> 01:39:27,973
Speaker 6: going for a walk will be so much better for

1912
01:39:28,013 --> 01:39:30,093
Speaker 6: you mentally because you feel good again, Like, you know,

1913
01:39:30,213 --> 01:39:32,133
Speaker 6: the feeling you had the last fighting, Oh no, I

1914
01:39:32,133 --> 01:39:34,652
Speaker 6: shouldn't have done that. You feel guilty, you feel bad.

1915
01:39:35,692 --> 01:39:37,732
Speaker 6: Going for a walk will solve that. You know, you

1916
01:39:37,412 --> 01:39:38,492
Speaker 6: feel you'll feel good again.

1917
01:39:38,692 --> 01:39:40,692
Speaker 3: Yeah. Just in terms of the people that you see

1918
01:39:40,732 --> 01:39:43,093
Speaker 3: after New Year's Dave, I mentioned your you know, your

1919
01:39:43,173 --> 01:39:47,253
Speaker 3: numbers go up in the new year. Is there strategies

1920
01:39:47,293 --> 01:39:48,893
Speaker 3: you've got to keep them on the path, you know,

1921
01:39:48,933 --> 01:39:51,173
Speaker 3: because it's that whole New Year's resolution thing, right, this

1922
01:39:51,213 --> 01:39:52,572
Speaker 3: is the year that I'm going to kick us and

1923
01:39:52,612 --> 01:39:55,893
Speaker 3: get a six pack. There must be some strong strategies

1924
01:39:55,933 --> 01:39:58,172
Speaker 3: to keep those guys on on en route.

1925
01:39:58,973 --> 01:39:59,173
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1926
01:39:59,213 --> 01:40:01,812
Speaker 6: So we're connection. We all connect it all through through

1927
01:40:01,853 --> 01:40:03,852
Speaker 6: our Facebook group and we all meet up outside the

1928
01:40:03,853 --> 01:40:06,333
Speaker 6: gym and when we come back it's just remembering our

1929
01:40:06,412 --> 01:40:08,932
Speaker 6: why and why we have to be help being happy,

1930
01:40:09,013 --> 01:40:10,972
Speaker 6: you know, and for a lot of us, it's to live.

1931
01:40:11,612 --> 01:40:13,173
Speaker 6: You know, a lot of the people were helping. They

1932
01:40:13,213 --> 01:40:16,053
Speaker 6: can't even they couldn't ever sit behind the steering wheel before.

1933
01:40:16,093 --> 01:40:18,253
Speaker 6: They could have walked before, you know. So it's about

1934
01:40:18,293 --> 01:40:21,173
Speaker 6: remember where they started and why they started. And that's

1935
01:40:21,293 --> 01:40:24,093
Speaker 6: enough to you know, not forgetting the pain we've gone through.

1936
01:40:24,213 --> 01:40:26,852
Speaker 6: You know, losing one hundred kilos is not easy. So

1937
01:40:26,893 --> 01:40:28,812
Speaker 6: you if when you fall off the wagon, think about

1938
01:40:28,853 --> 01:40:31,972
Speaker 6: all that work, you know that that it took and

1939
01:40:32,213 --> 01:40:34,293
Speaker 6: falling off the wagons fine, you know, just don't stay

1940
01:40:34,333 --> 01:40:35,772
Speaker 6: off that. That's the thing you just got to get

1941
01:40:35,772 --> 01:40:36,053
Speaker 6: back on.

1942
01:40:36,173 --> 01:40:38,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always been able to fit behind the steering wheel.

1943
01:40:38,452 --> 01:40:41,012
Speaker 2: But there's that's the thing. When you find yourself back

1944
01:40:41,053 --> 01:40:43,092
Speaker 2: in the in the in the shape you were before

1945
01:40:43,133 --> 01:40:45,452
Speaker 2: you started, and and you were so happy when you

1946
01:40:45,492 --> 01:40:48,852
Speaker 2: got there, and you have that period there, it's yeah,

1947
01:40:48,893 --> 01:40:50,652
Speaker 2: I mean that that's kind of the gutting part when

1948
01:40:50,652 --> 01:40:53,572
Speaker 2: you look back and go, I let it slip again. Yeah.

1949
01:40:53,692 --> 01:40:55,972
Speaker 6: Yeah, but don't you know, don't be your own biggest critic.

1950
01:40:56,053 --> 01:40:58,253
Speaker 6: You know, if if you've done that, don't don't pull

1951
01:40:58,293 --> 01:41:00,253
Speaker 6: yourself down, you know, build yourself up. Say come on,

1952
01:41:00,293 --> 01:41:01,972
Speaker 6: we can do this. We've done it before, we can

1953
01:41:01,973 --> 01:41:02,372
Speaker 6: do again.

1954
01:41:02,452 --> 01:41:02,772
Speaker 11: Let's go.

1955
01:41:03,053 --> 01:41:05,492
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, make it your project. That's what I'm doing.

1956
01:41:05,492 --> 01:41:08,213
Speaker 2: I'm making my project. So maybe i'll you know, I

1957
01:41:08,372 --> 01:41:10,412
Speaker 2: won't be so hard on myself over the Christmas break

1958
01:41:10,452 --> 01:41:10,972
Speaker 2: and then.

1959
01:41:11,532 --> 01:41:14,972
Speaker 3: You know in the guard Yeah, get up that mountain matte.

1960
01:41:15,053 --> 01:41:19,373
Speaker 3: Yeah now, Dave. Really nice to check to you, matey,

1961
01:41:20,253 --> 01:41:22,972
Speaker 3: great Christmas you too, you too. I eight hundred eighty

1962
01:41:23,133 --> 01:41:25,492
Speaker 3: ten eighty love to hear from you on this his text.

1963
01:41:25,492 --> 01:41:27,732
Speaker 2: Boys, this could be slightly off topic, but the massive

1964
01:41:27,772 --> 01:41:31,133
Speaker 2: family bust up, partially alcohol fueled after Christmas lunch, I

1965
01:41:31,133 --> 01:41:33,333
Speaker 2: feel you should get a mention along with the traditional

1966
01:41:33,372 --> 01:41:38,133
Speaker 2: overall indulgence regards Steven. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's

1967
01:41:38,173 --> 01:41:41,733
Speaker 2: the thing about Christmas. It can it can turn, can't it.

1968
01:41:41,732 --> 01:41:43,492
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be this whole and we talk about it.

1969
01:41:43,492 --> 01:41:48,012
Speaker 2: It's incredibly this family event and it's wholesome. But boy,

1970
01:41:48,053 --> 01:41:49,333
Speaker 2: when a Christmas turns.

1971
01:41:49,013 --> 01:41:50,213
Speaker 3: On you, it's ugly.

1972
01:41:50,652 --> 01:41:53,253
Speaker 2: It is ugly that can turn. I've been involved in

1973
01:41:53,253 --> 01:41:55,812
Speaker 2: a few Christmases that turn terribly there's being one where

1974
01:41:55,853 --> 01:41:58,253
Speaker 2: a guy got squashed between two cars, but that's that's

1975
01:41:58,293 --> 01:41:59,013
Speaker 2: a topic.

1976
01:41:59,133 --> 01:42:01,892
Speaker 3: Story for another day. Oh eight one hundred eighty ten

1977
01:42:01,973 --> 01:42:03,892
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. Nine two nine two

1978
01:42:04,333 --> 01:42:06,372
Speaker 3: is the text number if you've managed to have a

1979
01:42:06,412 --> 01:42:09,333
Speaker 3: healthy festive season. Loved to hear from you, or if

1980
01:42:09,333 --> 01:42:11,253
Speaker 3: you're going to give it a crack this year, Love

1981
01:42:11,253 --> 01:42:14,092
Speaker 3: to hear from you as well. It is twenty three

1982
01:42:14,173 --> 01:42:15,012
Speaker 3: minutes to four.

1983
01:42:16,692 --> 01:42:20,812
Speaker 1: Your new home of afternoon Talk and even Taylor Adams

1984
01:42:20,853 --> 01:42:24,253
Speaker 1: Afternoon Call. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

1985
01:42:24,372 --> 01:42:27,093
Speaker 3: Say'd be it's a twenty to four and we are

1986
01:42:27,133 --> 01:42:30,132
Speaker 3: talking about strategies to have a healthy fest of season.

1987
01:42:30,173 --> 01:42:32,012
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1988
01:42:32,053 --> 01:42:32,333
Speaker 3: to call.

1989
01:42:32,612 --> 01:42:34,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we're getting a whole lot of text through

1990
01:42:34,652 --> 01:42:37,492
Speaker 2: here on this nine two nine two. The idea that

1991
01:42:37,572 --> 01:42:39,893
Speaker 2: maybe you could come out of the festive season in

1992
01:42:40,053 --> 01:42:41,892
Speaker 2: better shape than you went in a lot of people

1993
01:42:41,933 --> 01:42:43,652
Speaker 2: saying that that's not the point of it at all,

1994
01:42:43,652 --> 01:42:47,452
Speaker 2: and stop setting unrealistic expectations. You might as well also

1995
01:42:47,612 --> 01:42:51,812
Speaker 2: plan to write a unicorn during that time. There's another

1996
01:42:51,933 --> 01:42:54,012
Speaker 2: side of the argument as well, coming through on nineteen

1997
01:42:54,133 --> 01:42:56,132
Speaker 2: nine two. I find it discussing that people over indulge

1998
01:42:56,173 --> 01:42:58,492
Speaker 2: at Christmas. This is text when there are people with

1999
01:42:58,532 --> 01:43:00,852
Speaker 2: nothing out there, it's just disrespectful to them.

2000
01:43:01,213 --> 01:43:01,492
Speaker 19: Wow.

2001
01:43:01,692 --> 01:43:03,973
Speaker 2: Wow, So what do you do? So you just have

2002
01:43:04,213 --> 01:43:07,372
Speaker 2: I don't know nothing, what so you don't get together

2003
01:43:07,372 --> 01:43:10,372
Speaker 2: with your family? You just sit around and.

2004
01:43:10,293 --> 01:43:12,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody has a miserable Christmas.

2005
01:43:12,853 --> 01:43:15,053
Speaker 2: And this one's directed at you, Tyler Wine. God's name,

2006
01:43:15,093 --> 01:43:17,452
Speaker 2: would anyone drink so much of it a night that

2007
01:43:17,492 --> 01:43:18,692
Speaker 2: they can't swim the next day?

2008
01:43:18,853 --> 01:43:19,372
Speaker 11: Grow up?

2009
01:43:20,093 --> 01:43:22,093
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, I mean the fact that I spent the

2010
01:43:22,093 --> 01:43:24,053
Speaker 3: whole day in the tent, too embarrassed to come out.

2011
01:43:24,133 --> 01:43:24,293
Speaker 14: Yeah.

2012
01:43:24,333 --> 01:43:26,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was on my finest moment and then had

2013
01:43:26,133 --> 01:43:27,053
Speaker 3: to crawl into the sea.

2014
01:43:27,253 --> 01:43:30,692
Speaker 2: And around the topic of you know, we got some

2015
01:43:30,812 --> 01:43:34,693
Speaker 2: flak around talking about holidays when not everyone takes holidays,

2016
01:43:35,133 --> 01:43:37,492
Speaker 2: and you know, and I was talking about people working

2017
01:43:37,532 --> 01:43:40,293
Speaker 2: hard and deserving a break, and you know, all due

2018
01:43:40,333 --> 01:43:41,932
Speaker 2: respect to the people that do have to work over

2019
01:43:41,933 --> 01:43:44,452
Speaker 2: the break, this texta says you don't work at all, Matt,

2020
01:43:44,492 --> 01:43:46,772
Speaker 2: You're a muppet. So you know, keep those coming in.

2021
01:43:46,853 --> 01:43:50,293
Speaker 3: Its Christmas time, feeling the joy. And this one quickly

2022
01:43:50,372 --> 01:43:53,452
Speaker 3: hi boys. Don't bother with the healthy eating over the system.

2023
01:43:53,492 --> 01:43:57,372
Speaker 3: It's false, hope. That's why most fail by February start.

2024
01:43:57,452 --> 01:43:59,692
Speaker 3: You're starting off at the wrong time of year. Need

2025
01:43:59,732 --> 01:44:02,893
Speaker 3: to crack into that in the depth of winter. I

2026
01:44:02,933 --> 01:44:05,372
Speaker 3: don't know about that strategy because I go hard on

2027
01:44:05,372 --> 01:44:07,652
Speaker 3: the food and winter because nobody's seen my gut then,

2028
01:44:07,692 --> 01:44:08,732
Speaker 3: I mean, nobody see my game.

2029
01:44:09,293 --> 01:44:11,973
Speaker 2: Take the foot off the take the foot off the

2030
01:44:11,973 --> 01:44:14,932
Speaker 2: break until winter. Yeah, so that's like basically a six

2031
01:44:14,973 --> 01:44:16,053
Speaker 2: month industry from now.

2032
01:44:16,133 --> 01:44:19,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, hibernates Mark, how are you this afternoon?

2033
01:44:20,093 --> 01:44:22,772
Speaker 9: Good mate, good good, Hey. Look, just to sort of

2034
01:44:22,772 --> 01:44:26,173
Speaker 9: give you another view to it, I had a stomach bypass.

2035
01:44:26,933 --> 01:44:32,012
Speaker 9: And what it means now is, once upon a time

2036
01:44:32,053 --> 01:44:34,772
Speaker 9: I used to be resonably good drinker at Christmas time

2037
01:44:34,812 --> 01:44:37,333
Speaker 9: and food and all that. Now I'm a lightweight and

2038
01:44:38,133 --> 01:44:44,213
Speaker 9: basically I'm the digignated driver. So yeah, once upon a time,

2039
01:44:44,333 --> 01:44:47,772
Speaker 9: good times. Now reality kicks in and you know, when

2040
01:44:47,772 --> 01:44:50,772
Speaker 9: you lose weight, you're going to lose weight. The interesting

2041
01:44:50,812 --> 01:44:53,933
Speaker 9: part is that if I have a stubby, I'll be

2042
01:44:54,013 --> 01:44:57,973
Speaker 9: pretty much over the limit. That's how the system.

2043
01:44:57,732 --> 01:45:00,812
Speaker 2: Works now, all right, So so sorry, I just missed

2044
01:45:00,973 --> 01:45:02,892
Speaker 2: what you said at the start, So you had what

2045
01:45:03,053 --> 01:45:04,013
Speaker 2: was the surgery.

2046
01:45:03,652 --> 01:45:07,812
Speaker 11: That you had a stomach bypass? So what they do

2047
01:45:07,893 --> 01:45:08,133
Speaker 11: with me?

2048
01:45:08,412 --> 01:45:12,013
Speaker 9: What they did with me was they used my intestine

2049
01:45:12,053 --> 01:45:14,973
Speaker 9: as the stomach rather than cutting the stomach.

2050
01:45:14,692 --> 01:45:19,213
Speaker 2: Up right, okay? And how long ago did you have

2051
01:45:19,253 --> 01:45:19,732
Speaker 2: that done?

2052
01:45:20,612 --> 01:45:23,732
Speaker 9: A couple of years ago? So pretty much it's direct

2053
01:45:23,812 --> 01:45:27,613
Speaker 9: line into the intestine, right, any alcohol?

2054
01:45:28,013 --> 01:45:32,492
Speaker 2: Yeah? I see? Yeah, so but bypasses what would normally

2055
01:45:32,572 --> 01:45:33,133
Speaker 2: process it?

2056
01:45:34,133 --> 01:45:34,372
Speaker 11: Yep?

2057
01:45:34,812 --> 01:45:35,132
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2058
01:45:35,173 --> 01:45:38,572
Speaker 9: So yeah, now I'm the designated driver.

2059
01:45:39,532 --> 01:45:42,052
Speaker 2: And and have you found, even though that you've missed

2060
01:45:42,093 --> 01:45:45,932
Speaker 2: out on certain things obviously, have you found that your

2061
01:45:45,973 --> 01:45:48,093
Speaker 2: quality of life is improved?

2062
01:45:48,532 --> 01:45:48,692
Speaker 4: Oh?

2063
01:45:48,812 --> 01:45:49,933
Speaker 11: How are you? Mate?

2064
01:45:50,253 --> 01:45:52,572
Speaker 9: If I hadn't had the operation, I'd be dead.

2065
01:45:52,853 --> 01:45:55,972
Speaker 2: Right, Well, that is an improvement for sure. We're glad

2066
01:45:55,973 --> 01:45:56,452
Speaker 2: to have you here.

2067
01:45:56,492 --> 01:45:56,692
Speaker 6: Mark.

2068
01:45:57,853 --> 01:45:58,053
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2069
01:45:58,053 --> 01:46:00,612
Speaker 9: I lost over a third my body weight in literally

2070
01:46:00,692 --> 01:46:01,453
Speaker 9: four months.

2071
01:46:01,772 --> 01:46:04,572
Speaker 2: Wow. How is it to go through that? And like

2072
01:46:04,692 --> 01:46:07,572
Speaker 2: mentally does does your mind set change as well as

2073
01:46:07,612 --> 01:46:09,412
Speaker 2: your your your physiology?

2074
01:46:10,572 --> 01:46:13,372
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, look you you know this is a sledgehammer.

2075
01:46:13,452 --> 01:46:17,213
Speaker 9: It's not you know, dames losing light. This is this

2076
01:46:17,333 --> 01:46:18,572
Speaker 9: is sleege gammer material.

2077
01:46:19,692 --> 01:46:19,892
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2078
01:46:20,333 --> 01:46:23,732
Speaker 9: For about four months you're literally living on liquids and

2079
01:46:24,133 --> 01:46:29,772
Speaker 9: protein minerals, et cetera, et cetera. But yeah, it's a

2080
01:46:29,853 --> 01:46:34,972
Speaker 9: whole change, your whole, your whole, everything about you changes

2081
01:46:35,253 --> 01:46:40,572
Speaker 9: so dramatically and so quickly that you're you know, you

2082
01:46:40,652 --> 01:46:41,412
Speaker 9: think you know, I.

2083
01:46:41,412 --> 01:46:43,253
Speaker 11: Was a big rugby player once upon a time.

2084
01:46:43,412 --> 01:46:47,892
Speaker 9: Now you know, I struggle to even looks probably forty

2085
01:46:47,973 --> 01:46:49,972
Speaker 9: kilo bag of cement or something like that.

2086
01:46:51,093 --> 01:46:52,972
Speaker 11: You've just you know, all your.

2087
01:46:52,853 --> 01:46:57,053
Speaker 9: Proteins, all your body just changes so quickly. But it's

2088
01:46:57,093 --> 01:46:58,732
Speaker 9: the difference between living and dying.

2089
01:46:59,013 --> 01:47:02,253
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, but like a couple of years into it,

2090
01:47:02,293 --> 01:47:05,333
Speaker 2: because I understand, when you're carrying around a lot of weight,

2091
01:47:05,532 --> 01:47:09,732
Speaker 2: it also slows your mind and you know, can can

2092
01:47:10,333 --> 01:47:14,572
Speaker 2: affect your mood. So are you feeling generally more positive

2093
01:47:14,612 --> 01:47:16,133
Speaker 2: now you've lost all that weight?

2094
01:47:16,732 --> 01:47:16,932
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2095
01:47:17,253 --> 01:47:20,692
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, look definitely, I mean that you had a

2096
01:47:20,692 --> 01:47:24,213
Speaker 9: major effect. I've had a knee replacement and that was

2097
01:47:24,253 --> 01:47:26,093
Speaker 9: all bordering on the fact that I was carrying too

2098
01:47:26,133 --> 01:47:30,812
Speaker 9: much weight. It was injuring you, affecting my joints.

2099
01:47:31,412 --> 01:47:32,532
Speaker 11: So yeh.

2100
01:47:33,253 --> 01:47:36,132
Speaker 9: But like I said, I was a big eater, especially

2101
01:47:36,173 --> 01:47:37,093
Speaker 9: come Christmas time.

2102
01:47:38,293 --> 01:47:39,012
Speaker 11: You know food.

2103
01:47:39,293 --> 01:47:42,372
Speaker 9: I like my meat, I like you know, but you've

2104
01:47:42,412 --> 01:47:46,053
Speaker 9: just got to be ration ration about it now, and

2105
01:47:46,893 --> 01:47:50,213
Speaker 9: you know, eat and moderate over a long period of time.

2106
01:47:50,293 --> 01:47:56,373
Speaker 9: And yeah, all the big colors out there. If you're struggling,

2107
01:47:56,652 --> 01:47:58,572
Speaker 9: that's the only way you can really get around it.

2108
01:47:58,652 --> 01:47:59,892
Speaker 11: I struggled to lose weight.

2109
01:48:01,213 --> 01:48:02,333
Speaker 3: Clearly, it saved your life.

2110
01:48:02,372 --> 01:48:02,572
Speaker 11: Mark.

2111
01:48:02,652 --> 01:48:04,492
Speaker 3: But is that is it still a little bit hard

2112
01:48:04,532 --> 01:48:06,173
Speaker 3: at this time of the year when there's all that

2113
01:48:06,213 --> 01:48:08,812
Speaker 3: good food and you know, other family men as might

2114
01:48:08,853 --> 01:48:11,293
Speaker 3: be having a few drinks and all that sort of thing.

2115
01:48:11,372 --> 01:48:13,572
Speaker 3: Is that still hard for you or have you completely

2116
01:48:13,652 --> 01:48:14,652
Speaker 3: change your mindset with that?

2117
01:48:15,612 --> 01:48:17,452
Speaker 9: Yeah, you just you just don't drink.

2118
01:48:17,572 --> 01:48:18,213
Speaker 7: I mean.

2119
01:48:19,452 --> 01:48:22,372
Speaker 9: You might have it like a locale stubby, you know,

2120
01:48:22,532 --> 01:48:24,652
Speaker 9: and you have that for over half an hour. You

2121
01:48:24,853 --> 01:48:28,333
Speaker 9: just have a little little slip that you don't you know,

2122
01:48:28,893 --> 01:48:30,893
Speaker 9: drop it back like a jug or you know and

2123
01:48:31,133 --> 01:48:34,812
Speaker 9: dug racing or something like that. You just throw it up,

2124
01:48:35,253 --> 01:48:37,372
Speaker 9: just take your time a little bit by a little bit,

2125
01:48:38,053 --> 01:48:40,533
Speaker 9: and you know, you get through the system.

2126
01:48:40,692 --> 01:48:44,093
Speaker 3: Yep, Well, congratulations, Mark. I mean, it's you know, a

2127
01:48:44,093 --> 01:48:46,452
Speaker 3: heck of a journey for you. And and at this

2128
01:48:46,572 --> 01:48:50,333
Speaker 3: stage you're still i mean, clearly with the surgery, you're

2129
01:48:50,372 --> 01:48:52,012
Speaker 3: you're still on track and you're pretty healthy.

2130
01:48:52,013 --> 01:48:52,173
Speaker 11: Now.

2131
01:48:53,293 --> 01:48:55,892
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll put on a little bit of weight as

2132
01:48:55,893 --> 01:49:01,612
Speaker 9: my body has now started to you know, balance yourself out.

2133
01:49:01,732 --> 01:49:04,852
Speaker 9: But no, I'm I'm you know, the big thing is

2134
01:49:04,893 --> 01:49:06,613
Speaker 9: your blood and diabetes.

2135
01:49:07,333 --> 01:49:10,293
Speaker 11: You know, I was tipping some really really.

2136
01:49:10,053 --> 01:49:15,572
Speaker 9: Bad scales and diabetes wise, and it's just basically changed

2137
01:49:15,853 --> 01:49:20,172
Speaker 9: over four months now I don't have diabetes anymore, completely

2138
01:49:20,253 --> 01:49:26,173
Speaker 9: changed your whole your whole system, changes your whole You know,

2139
01:49:26,253 --> 01:49:27,892
Speaker 9: you've got to go and buy yourself a whole new

2140
01:49:27,973 --> 01:49:30,972
Speaker 9: set of clothes because you've lost that much amount of weight.

2141
01:49:31,532 --> 01:49:33,852
Speaker 2: Did you have to did you have this kind of

2142
01:49:33,893 --> 01:49:35,692
Speaker 2: a personal question, but did you end up with quite

2143
01:49:35,692 --> 01:49:40,452
Speaker 2: a lot of extra skin for a while? No, shrunk

2144
01:49:40,492 --> 01:49:41,293
Speaker 2: with you.

2145
01:49:42,013 --> 01:49:44,652
Speaker 9: Just quietly sort of you know, you get stretched when

2146
01:49:44,652 --> 01:49:46,852
Speaker 9: you're big. But yeah, as you start to lose No,

2147
01:49:47,013 --> 01:49:51,293
Speaker 9: I wasn't that that hugely opiece. It sort of, you know,

2148
01:49:51,572 --> 01:49:53,253
Speaker 9: tucks itself back in quite nicely.

2149
01:49:53,692 --> 01:49:55,772
Speaker 2: Good on you, Mark, Well, I'm glad it's worked out

2150
01:49:55,772 --> 01:49:57,933
Speaker 2: for you, and I'm glad you're still with us, and

2151
01:49:58,492 --> 01:50:01,412
Speaker 2: I hope you have a great, a great Christmas in

2152
01:50:01,452 --> 01:50:02,253
Speaker 2: New Years.

2153
01:50:02,812 --> 01:50:05,852
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, and you guys too, I mean you're you're

2154
01:50:05,893 --> 01:50:08,652
Speaker 9: actually are breath appreciated on talk.

2155
01:50:09,213 --> 01:50:11,852
Speaker 2: Oh thank you mate, Thanks buddy, I appreciate that.

2156
01:50:12,093 --> 01:50:13,932
Speaker 3: Cheers, Mark, thank you very much. Oh e one hundred

2157
01:50:13,933 --> 01:50:16,812
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call cricktics here. Hi, guys,

2158
01:50:16,853 --> 01:50:20,333
Speaker 3: my family burg drinkers, and no matter how hard I

2159
01:50:20,412 --> 01:50:23,492
Speaker 3: try to stay away from the cocktails and the good food,

2160
01:50:23,732 --> 01:50:27,652
Speaker 3: that is incredibly hard over Christmas. I'm very healthy throughout

2161
01:50:27,652 --> 01:50:29,492
Speaker 3: the rest of the year, but it all goes to

2162
01:50:29,612 --> 01:50:32,732
Speaker 3: hell come December, and I think sometimes you just got

2163
01:50:32,772 --> 01:50:33,692
Speaker 3: to live life a little.

2164
01:50:34,973 --> 01:50:36,932
Speaker 2: Here's a ticks here. I recall one of you starting

2165
01:50:36,933 --> 01:50:38,692
Speaker 2: one meal a day a few weeks back. Has that

2166
01:50:38,732 --> 01:50:44,572
Speaker 2: blown out? Loll cheers, Sundra. No, it hasn't strictly blown out,

2167
01:50:44,612 --> 01:50:46,173
Speaker 2: But that was me that was doing. Oh oh no,

2168
01:50:46,213 --> 01:50:47,972
Speaker 2: I wasn't starting one meal a day. What I was doing.

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Speaker 2: I was I started not eating breakfast and trying to

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Speaker 2: have a fasting period and eating all my food between

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Speaker 2: between twelve and and seven at night. And I've kept

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Speaker 2: doing that. As a result, when we start our show

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Speaker 2: at twelve, I'm shoving heaps of food into my face.

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Speaker 2: So the first break is always a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Munchie, and you're not. It's beautifully healthy lunch that you've got.

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Speaker 3: It's usually chicken and broccoli. So are we going to

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Speaker 3: do a weigh in before we finish this year?

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Speaker 6: Matt?

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Speaker 3: Maybe we set ourselves maybe?

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, So you're suggesting so over the break

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Speaker 2: because I've talked about this idea, this concept of trying

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Speaker 2: to come out of the break more healthy than you

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Speaker 2: go in. And you know, weight isn't just the only

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Speaker 2: is the only metric of health, but it's an easy

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Speaker 2: one for it. It's an easy thing for us to test.

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Speaker 2: So you and me way out Salves yep, before we

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Speaker 2: go away. So our last show is next Friday, yep. Correct,

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Speaker 2: So we weigh ourselves next Friday, and then we see

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Speaker 2: if we can come out of the Christmas break when

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01:51:47,173 --> 01:51:51,492
Speaker 2: we come back, and who wins the person that's it

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Speaker 2: would have to be the highest percentage of body Well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to do a percentage quite the biggest loser.

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Speaker 3: This is the news talks Eb's biggause biggest loser who

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Speaker 3: comes back with the most percentage of weight loss?

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Speaker 2: Should we call it the festive loser?

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Speaker 11: Look?

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Speaker 3: I am game at this stage. Maybe we have a

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Speaker 3: chat about that next week. I mean there's got to

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Speaker 3: be some sort of punishment or some sort of price.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, okay, let's do that. I'll forget. Let's

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Speaker 2: write that down somewhere or someone to keep us remind us.

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Speaker 2: Here's a text on nine two nine two, Matt, eat,

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Speaker 2: drink and be mirror. You're not even that fat. I

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Speaker 2: saw you running past in part the other day. Terrible

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Speaker 2: running style, but tubby worse. Oh I'll take that.

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Speaker 3: Eighty is the number to call. Nine two niney two

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01:52:33,412 --> 01:52:35,772
Speaker 3: is the text number. It is ten to four.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. You

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four us talk, said B, said B.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon it is seven to four. Some great ticks coming through.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So so we've decided a challenge and it's the

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Speaker 2: what what do you call it? The Fist of Loser,

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Speaker 2: The Fist of Loser.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are some other suggestions.

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Speaker 2: Someone's calling it the Fattest Bastard, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: if the fatest past it works. So basically that what

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Speaker 2: we're going to do is mentally going to weigh our

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Speaker 2: sales on the right at the end of the Friday show,

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Speaker 2: not this Friday, next Friday, and the greatest percentage of

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Speaker 2: loss over the Christmas break.

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Speaker 3: This is going to be the worst Festive season ever.

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Speaker 3: This text to says, Kiday, guys, I gave up beer

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Speaker 3: for four months, got huge muscles and had a hard

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Speaker 3: six pack stomach. Only back on the beer one month

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Speaker 3: and the only six packers in the fridge now.

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Speaker 2: Blind way in. So you don't know how you're doing? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, what does that mean?

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Speaker 3: Blind way in? All right? So we don't know how

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Speaker 3: much the other person weighs? Ah right, so effective.

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Speaker 2: For we don't know how much we weigh. No, damn?

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Speaker 2: Can you can you explain what you're talking about there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm keen. I'm in on it, and we're going

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Speaker 3: to video it to make sure that we stick to it,

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Speaker 3: and we're going to figure out some sort of punishment.

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Speaker 2: Well, what's your plan to do it? So we've been

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Speaker 2: asking people for the last hour what's planned to still

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Speaker 2: have a good time, still celebrate on Christmas, still celebrate

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Speaker 2: on New Years, but come out overall over the Christmas

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Speaker 2: breay healthier, wealthier, and wiser. I'm going to be doing wealthier.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be doing the triathlon and mobrasounds and

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Speaker 3: hopefully I don't drown in the sea part of that triathlon.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's the problem without this whole thing, because

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01:54:21,812 --> 01:54:25,253
Speaker 2: we're only mentioning one variable, which is weight. Yeah, so

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01:54:25,532 --> 01:54:28,812
Speaker 2: you could come out healthier you were, you know, fitter. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you don't lose a lot of weight from exercise,

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Speaker 2: do you No, So it's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 3: We want to get a doctor and to do all

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Speaker 3: the vitals and we can just go through the measurements

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Speaker 3: and see who is the healthier stuff to summer. We're

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Speaker 3: making a lot of promises here, but this is going

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Speaker 3: to be good.

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01:54:42,093 --> 01:54:43,573
Speaker 2: Are we just ruining our Christmases?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? That's what I feel.

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Speaker 19: Well.

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Speaker 3: I was looking to enjoy a few cocktails this summer.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, thank you very much for today. It's been

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Speaker 3: a great discussion all around. To really appreciate all your

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Speaker 3: phone calls and text Friday tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, and we will announce the Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler afternoons New Zealand of the Week. Who will it be?

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Speaker 2: Until then, give them a taste of Kiwi.

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Speaker 20: I blew out my flip flopping, stepped on the Pope.

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Speaker 20: Pope couldn't My heel had the cruise on back home,

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Speaker 20: But this Bootles and the Blander that soon every randa,

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Speaker 20: that ruise and concoction that helps me hang on were

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Speaker 20: stand away again in myriad of it, searching for my

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Speaker 20: Lord Sugar Salt.

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Speaker 21: Some people blame that there's everyone.

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Speaker 2: On the blame, but I don't know.

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Speaker 20: Gets my own damn hole.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 20: Some people blame their wane the blame.

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Speaker 6: I know it's on.

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