1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Barry Soper, Hello, you've got to turn your microphone on. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Hold on, Tom, there we go and had to turn 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: the microphone. Oh and being naughty boy again, Can I, 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: before we move on, just admit that Nokia is in 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: fact finished, not Danish. But never mind, I just had 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: to do that now. I also just said about David 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: Seymour riding the land rover up the steps, and I said, look, 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: he's not a stupid man. It was a stunt, you know. 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: He wanted to get some headlines. He wanted to be 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of a renegade. Why are we wasting 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: so much oxygen? 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: About wasting a lot of oxygen in the debating chamber 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: about it. They were again today telling the Prime Minister 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: that he should be dismissed as a minister. It's unbecoming 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: behavior of a minister in his cabinet. They want him sacked. 16 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 2: They have questioned Luxon's ability to discipline his minister as well. 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 2: You imagine if he disciplined David Seymour, an Act coalition partner, 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: you might see the coalition sort of falling apart. But nevertheless, 19 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: so the issue from labor today though, the real issue 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: they are concentrated on was the so called racial statements 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: being made by Luckson's ministers, outlined by Leader Chris Hopkins. 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: Have a listen to Todd mcclay's statement to another MP, 23 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: you're not in Mexico now, Shane Jones's statement send the 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: Mexicans home, and Whinster's Peter's statement immigrants should quote show 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 3: some gratitude, meet his expectations of ministerial conduct. 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 4: If so, why well. 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 5: An answer to the last part of that question, I 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 5: have huge confidence in the Deputy Prime Minister who really 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 5: believes in the Mexico New Zealand relationship and visit in 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 5: the country and cares deeply about those relationships. 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: To the Prime Minister. Does dis government have any plans 32 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: to go through the telephone book and find home buyers 33 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: with Chinese sounding names. 34 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 4: No, The real issue here is no one can surely 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 4: be condemned for expecting immigrant to come to this country 36 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 4: to big greatfuls the country they've come to. 37 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: So there you go. Winston had the final say, but 38 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: you remember it was Andrew Little who was accused of 39 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: looking for Chinese names to prove that they were buying 40 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: up all the houses here. So look, it goes on 41 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: and on and. 42 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: On see if a man had that good a question, 43 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: David Seymour, do you really think he's that stupid that 44 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: he didn't know the rules? Oh? Can I just also 45 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: say that security guard that stopped him, great job. Man, 46 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: deserves a raise. 47 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: I know the guy. He's been there a long time 48 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: and he's a really good man. 49 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: Wasn't intimidated straight out, No, No, great policing. Shane Jones 50 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: has been talking about mining the gold in them the hills, 51 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: as Shane. What I like about Shane Jones is that 52 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: he likes preaching in parliament rather than simply asking or 53 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: answering patsy questions. Of course, gold is a big deal 54 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: in New Zealand at the moment when you consider that 55 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, New Zealand produced four hundred and 56 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: seventy two million dollars worth of gold. In twenty two 57 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: that was up to six hundred and ten million. Now 58 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: apparently there are billions of dollars under the ground here 59 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: in New Zealand. The mining cheerleader, as I said, Shane Jones, 60 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: he was on his feet in Parliament today preaching the 61 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: value of coal and of gold mining in this country. 62 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 6: I have been to a gold mine located at way 63 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 6: Here to launch New Zealand's and Lord Greal mineral strategy. 64 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 6: And whilst I was there, it was evident that economic 65 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 6: seeds are germinating, buds are developing. No longer will this 66 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 6: sector be shackled in green tapes. No longer will people 67 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 6: be able to carry on talking on smartphones dependent on 68 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 6: minerals rare earth minerals imported into the country when we 69 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 6: have them in our own country. And also it's my pleasure, 70 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 6: sir to tell the House that most of the people 71 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 6: there reminded me they never left the Labor Party. The 72 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 6: Labor Party left them. 73 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: I always like the upward inflection is that he speaks, 74 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: and I mean it's preaching and I always enjoy shown 75 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: Joanes style. 76 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: Very good stuff. And the Mary Party MP found guilty 77 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: of misleading parliament. 78 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: Taker to Paris. Yes, he deliberately, according to the Privileges Committee, 79 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: misled the House. They recommend that he be forced to 80 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: apologize to the House because he had denied that he 81 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 2: had called his fellow MPs liars. But I've got to 82 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: say today an apology wasn't forthcoming. It would usually be 83 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: the case as soon as possible after a Privileges committee finding. 84 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: The irony in this case is that Perris was what 85 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: the one apparently telling lies about those who he accused 86 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: of being liars. I haven't listened to the exchange which 87 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 2: got him into trouble last September. Lies. In other words, 88 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: many in this House are masters of it, and it 89 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 2: is a. 90 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 5: Disservice to those who voted you into your positions. 91 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 4: Well, unless, of course, it is certainly not acceptable of 92 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: for use. I'm on that inexperience as he is too. Nevertheless, 93 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 4: I accuse some other MPs keep quite when I'm making 94 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 4: a point of all. All right, he made the allegation 95 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 4: that members of the Parliament of liars, you should have 96 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 4: been stopped on the tracks right then. 97 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 5: But if he has made that statement, then he should 98 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 5: withdraw and apologize as quickly as possible. I haven't made 99 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 5: that statement. 100 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: It just finished making the statement, and you said this 101 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: man he was there, and normally you're expected in a 102 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: Wednesday debate, which was what this was, not to speak 103 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: from notes. He was speaking from a computer. You meant 104 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: to be able to regale stuff without using notes in 105 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: the debating chamber. But that seems to have changed. 106 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: Which means he had intention to use the word liar 107 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: to It didn't just pop into his head. He wrote 108 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: it down on a computer. He said it. He's thought 109 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: about the whole thing. And when I find amazing about 110 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: that word liar, too many people in this world these 111 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: days fleeer it around and it's one of the worst 112 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: insults you can do. If you're pulling out the liar, 113 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: you were going nuclear. 114 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: And he didn't have the good grace and surely he 115 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,119 Speaker 2: must have known he accused them of being liars. Didn't 116 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 2: have the good grace to immediately stand as most MPs 117 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: would do and say, look, I apologize, you know, because 118 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: he obviously must have realized that he was in the wrong. 119 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: So now we await his apology, and I thank you 120 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: very much. 121 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 5: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. 122 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 4: Listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 123 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.