1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,453 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,453 --> 00:00:16,213 Speaker 2: A'd be our Textbert Paul Stenhouse is here with big 4 00:00:16,413 --> 00:00:20,133 Speaker 2: news in the world of relationship dating online. These days, 5 00:00:20,173 --> 00:00:23,693 Speaker 2: Tinder wants you to find the relationship you want. Big 6 00:00:23,773 --> 00:00:25,493 Speaker 2: changes coming to the dating platform. 7 00:00:26,173 --> 00:00:28,373 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a while since probably either of us 8 00:00:28,373 --> 00:00:30,933 Speaker 3: have been on Tinderjack. So just to set the scene, 9 00:00:31,093 --> 00:00:33,293 Speaker 3: Tinder used to be the app where you were just 10 00:00:33,373 --> 00:00:35,573 Speaker 3: the profiles would pop up and you'd swipe through them 11 00:00:35,653 --> 00:00:38,293 Speaker 3: left and right, kind of almost at random, right, Like 12 00:00:38,333 --> 00:00:40,893 Speaker 3: I think there was some algorithm kind of there. But 13 00:00:41,213 --> 00:00:44,373 Speaker 3: did you know I didn't that Tinder also had an 14 00:00:44,453 --> 00:00:47,493 Speaker 3: explore page or has an explore page, So there were 15 00:00:47,573 --> 00:00:51,653 Speaker 3: interests on there like animal parents or gamers and things 16 00:00:51,693 --> 00:00:53,453 Speaker 3: like that, and you could kind of like start to 17 00:00:53,533 --> 00:00:55,413 Speaker 3: find people you might want to be in a relationship 18 00:00:55,413 --> 00:00:58,853 Speaker 3: with based on your interests. But now Tinder Jack. 19 00:00:58,773 --> 00:01:00,613 Speaker 2: So sorry, just to be clear on that that you're 20 00:01:00,653 --> 00:01:03,453 Speaker 2: still looking for you're still dating on that. So you're 21 00:01:03,453 --> 00:01:06,133 Speaker 2: still dating. Yeah, right, So I could say I'm looking 22 00:01:06,133 --> 00:01:09,293 Speaker 2: for people who are who love having a really clear 23 00:01:09,333 --> 00:01:13,413 Speaker 2: bench top. It's a niche. It's a niche, but No, 24 00:01:13,613 --> 00:01:15,573 Speaker 2: I couldn't. It wouldn't be next. So I could say 25 00:01:15,613 --> 00:01:19,653 Speaker 2: I'm curated playing for abee or something. Yeah, yeah, I think. 26 00:01:19,533 --> 00:01:21,773 Speaker 3: It's even more curated than that. Right, that just puts 27 00:01:21,853 --> 00:01:24,493 Speaker 3: for random parameters in. If only you could get that 28 00:01:24,573 --> 00:01:27,373 Speaker 3: specific Yeah, I'm a night owl, I'm you know. Yeah, 29 00:01:27,373 --> 00:01:30,293 Speaker 3: that could be quite handy, but instead check they've put 30 00:01:30,333 --> 00:01:34,293 Speaker 3: some new options in which, let's just say, I think 31 00:01:34,373 --> 00:01:37,493 Speaker 3: might kind of change the game for Tinder because you 32 00:01:37,573 --> 00:01:41,733 Speaker 3: can now say the type of style of relationship you're 33 00:01:41,773 --> 00:01:46,333 Speaker 3: looking for. So there's now categories for serious datas people 34 00:01:46,373 --> 00:01:49,853 Speaker 3: looking for long term partners. Here's where it gets interesting, 35 00:01:50,453 --> 00:01:54,373 Speaker 3: non monogamy and my favorite short term fun. 36 00:01:54,813 --> 00:02:01,333 Speaker 2: Oh wow, short term fun. Yes, Saturday morning pool. Here 37 00:02:01,373 --> 00:02:01,653 Speaker 2: we go. 38 00:02:03,933 --> 00:02:06,253 Speaker 3: I think that's like the most family friendly way. 39 00:02:06,453 --> 00:02:08,453 Speaker 2: Yes, so we don't need to go into any more 40 00:02:08,453 --> 00:02:12,413 Speaker 2: detail on that front. Hey, the UK government is trying 41 00:02:12,453 --> 00:02:17,133 Speaker 2: to get eyes on iPhone users data. But here's the hook. 42 00:02:17,493 --> 00:02:19,133 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter where you live, don't have to be 43 00:02:19,133 --> 00:02:21,373 Speaker 2: in the UK. They want that data. 44 00:02:21,573 --> 00:02:24,653 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, New Zealand, the US doesn't matter. They want 45 00:02:24,693 --> 00:02:29,053 Speaker 3: the data that Apple has. And this is all happening 46 00:02:29,213 --> 00:02:32,813 Speaker 3: in you know, secret basically and this. We only know 47 00:02:32,813 --> 00:02:35,573 Speaker 3: about it because of reporting from the Washington Post, and 48 00:02:35,613 --> 00:02:39,213 Speaker 3: the Post says that the UK government's issued this secret 49 00:02:39,333 --> 00:02:41,933 Speaker 3: order to Apple. It all sounds very kind of spy 50 00:02:42,053 --> 00:02:46,813 Speaker 3: movie esque, doesn't it really. But Apple is basically being 51 00:02:46,893 --> 00:02:51,333 Speaker 3: asked to give the UK government this backdoor into iCloud, 52 00:02:51,533 --> 00:02:54,813 Speaker 3: which even covers the encrypted data that you have in iCloud, 53 00:02:54,853 --> 00:02:57,453 Speaker 3: because Apple gives you an option to either store your 54 00:02:57,493 --> 00:03:02,173 Speaker 3: data in iCloud unencrypted or in a more secure encrypted way, 55 00:03:02,653 --> 00:03:06,493 Speaker 3: And so that's now what they want to get access 56 00:03:06,533 --> 00:03:12,293 Speaker 3: to globally, which is interesting. The encrypted piece is the 57 00:03:12,333 --> 00:03:15,493 Speaker 3: most interesting, obviously, because if they can get in and 58 00:03:15,533 --> 00:03:18,293 Speaker 3: break the encryption with like a sort of secret key, 59 00:03:18,653 --> 00:03:20,933 Speaker 3: there's a very good chance that other governments are going 60 00:03:20,933 --> 00:03:23,973 Speaker 3: to want that as well. Apple has been very adamant 61 00:03:23,973 --> 00:03:26,493 Speaker 3: that they're the privacy company. You can store your data 62 00:03:26,533 --> 00:03:30,373 Speaker 3: with us. It is safe. The US, like China, would 63 00:03:30,373 --> 00:03:33,053 Speaker 3: probably be wanting the same thing. Apple has been saying 64 00:03:33,093 --> 00:03:36,453 Speaker 3: no to those governments. But what's also interesting about this 65 00:03:36,693 --> 00:03:38,853 Speaker 3: is that the UK is kind of alone when it 66 00:03:38,893 --> 00:03:42,453 Speaker 3: comes to wanting to break into encryption. As I mentioned, 67 00:03:42,733 --> 00:03:45,173 Speaker 3: the US and China and other folks have kind of 68 00:03:45,173 --> 00:03:49,333 Speaker 3: wanted it, but in most recent times, actually law enforcement 69 00:03:49,413 --> 00:03:52,133 Speaker 3: in the US, in Canada, in Australia and New Zealand 70 00:03:52,373 --> 00:03:55,373 Speaker 3: they're actually now in favor of encryption on these platforms. 71 00:03:55,733 --> 00:03:56,013 Speaker 2: Right. 72 00:03:56,093 --> 00:03:58,093 Speaker 3: The argument used to be, oh, it makes it easy 73 00:03:58,093 --> 00:04:01,253 Speaker 3: for terrorists and child abusers and other criminals to do 74 00:04:01,333 --> 00:04:03,253 Speaker 3: things in secret and we can't get in. But they're 75 00:04:03,293 --> 00:04:05,933 Speaker 3: no actually saying encrypt it because they want to stop 76 00:04:06,013 --> 00:04:09,493 Speaker 3: China these hackers. Man, So what a turn of events. 77 00:04:09,773 --> 00:04:12,133 Speaker 3: But no, this is all happening completely in secret and 78 00:04:12,333 --> 00:04:14,893 Speaker 3: is really one to watch. The hard part is that 79 00:04:15,773 --> 00:04:19,373 Speaker 3: under this law is actually an offense for Apple to 80 00:04:19,413 --> 00:04:21,213 Speaker 3: reveal that they've got this from the UK. 81 00:04:21,773 --> 00:04:22,053 Speaker 2: Right. 82 00:04:22,293 --> 00:04:26,613 Speaker 3: And it's also Apple doesn't need to notify anybody if 83 00:04:26,693 --> 00:04:30,013 Speaker 3: they give that example and then if they agree and 84 00:04:30,053 --> 00:04:33,133 Speaker 3: also if they then give access to a user. Wow, 85 00:04:33,253 --> 00:04:34,933 Speaker 3: so we're kind of never going to know. So thanks 86 00:04:35,053 --> 00:04:37,893 Speaker 3: Washington Post because that might be the only way we 87 00:04:37,973 --> 00:04:40,653 Speaker 3: knew that this was happening or was going to happen, 88 00:04:41,093 --> 00:04:42,053 Speaker 3: or does happen. 89 00:04:42,213 --> 00:04:45,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is so interesting. He thank you, Paul. That 90 00:04:45,373 --> 00:04:49,093 Speaker 2: is Paul our texpert. You're fascinating how the UK has 91 00:04:49,133 --> 00:04:51,533 Speaker 2: those secrecy laws so they can stop any of that 92 00:04:51,573 --> 00:04:55,373 Speaker 2: stuff being reported. Really is quite remarkable, fascinating times in 93 00:04:55,413 --> 00:04:55,933 Speaker 2: which we live. 94 00:04:56,453 --> 00:04:59,573 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. 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