1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:26,093 Speaker 1: from News Talk st B. 3 00:00:26,733 --> 00:00:27,373 Speaker 2: In time. 4 00:00:27,493 --> 00:00:43,693 Speaker 3: This this is Geronimo. 5 00:00:44,253 --> 00:00:48,173 Speaker 2: It's by Toy king Eys. He's just released his latest album, Lea, 6 00:00:48,213 --> 00:00:53,013 Speaker 2: the Man and the Mohavey Green alongside The Cactus Handshake. 7 00:00:53,813 --> 00:00:56,173 Speaker 2: Stale Cliffords our music reviewers. She's been listening to the 8 00:00:56,293 --> 00:00:59,053 Speaker 2: album over the last twelve hours or so and is 9 00:00:59,093 --> 00:01:00,133 Speaker 2: with us now more inner? 10 00:01:00,733 --> 00:01:04,533 Speaker 4: Well, then that's our lilting out towards the sunset song 11 00:01:04,813 --> 00:01:08,573 Speaker 4: on this album. Geronimo, this was a I went for 12 00:01:08,613 --> 00:01:11,693 Speaker 4: a walk yesterday and I walked for two hours of 13 00:01:11,733 --> 00:01:15,013 Speaker 4: the leather Man because it is a romp through the 14 00:01:15,053 --> 00:01:20,653 Speaker 4: desert and I totally needed it. Really interesting because Troy's 15 00:01:20,653 --> 00:01:24,093 Speaker 4: been very open leading into this album that he's had 16 00:01:24,133 --> 00:01:27,173 Speaker 4: a bit of I don't know if it's necessarily writer's block, 17 00:01:27,253 --> 00:01:31,453 Speaker 4: but the creative like kind of like, oh yeah, where 18 00:01:31,533 --> 00:01:34,173 Speaker 4: am I? I mean, this is eight the eighth album 19 00:01:34,173 --> 00:01:37,533 Speaker 4: out of that ten ten series, So eight years in 20 00:01:37,573 --> 00:01:40,893 Speaker 4: a row. You're you know, creating some music, not always 21 00:01:40,893 --> 00:01:44,573 Speaker 4: in your set genre, but certainly this one. You know, 22 00:01:44,693 --> 00:01:47,373 Speaker 4: rock music is what made him want to be a musician, right, 23 00:01:47,413 --> 00:01:51,213 Speaker 4: and so he needed to be reinspired, and what better 24 00:01:51,253 --> 00:01:54,013 Speaker 4: thing to do than take yourself to meet some other 25 00:01:54,053 --> 00:01:57,613 Speaker 4: indigenous people on some different lands and get a little 26 00:01:57,613 --> 00:02:01,453 Speaker 4: bit rock desert trippy about it. Yeah, I absolutely because 27 00:02:01,733 --> 00:02:03,693 Speaker 4: I've been hanging out for this album so much so 28 00:02:03,733 --> 00:02:07,733 Speaker 4: I watched the four part doco is it Yeah, The 29 00:02:07,773 --> 00:02:11,053 Speaker 4: Desert Hekoy as I did my Beachhi Coy yesterday, and 30 00:02:11,133 --> 00:02:13,693 Speaker 4: it was really good. Like it's fifteen minutes episodes for 31 00:02:13,973 --> 00:02:17,533 Speaker 4: seventeen minutes and straight off in the first two episodes, 32 00:02:17,573 --> 00:02:22,013 Speaker 4: you are hit with this whole creative block, anxiety, mental house, 33 00:02:22,573 --> 00:02:28,173 Speaker 4: connection to Fenawa mushroom psychedelics, and so I highly recommend 34 00:02:28,173 --> 00:02:30,533 Speaker 4: giving that a watch. But you don't need to watch 35 00:02:30,533 --> 00:02:33,093 Speaker 4: it to enjoy the album. I think what it did 36 00:02:33,133 --> 00:02:35,773 Speaker 4: though for me was go, wow, he's you see his 37 00:02:35,933 --> 00:02:39,613 Speaker 4: raw talent, you see that new inspiration, but you also 38 00:02:39,693 --> 00:02:42,933 Speaker 4: see how clever he is at using his bandmates. Yeah, 39 00:02:42,973 --> 00:02:45,413 Speaker 4: and as you would expect in some desert rock, there's 40 00:02:45,413 --> 00:02:48,813 Speaker 4: got to be some songs with some yell screaming, and 41 00:02:49,293 --> 00:02:52,213 Speaker 4: you know that's not necessarily Troy's natural voice, right, So 42 00:02:52,733 --> 00:02:55,613 Speaker 4: he's really clever because he gets his bandmates involved in 43 00:02:55,653 --> 00:02:59,613 Speaker 4: that stuff. And it really brings out some I just 44 00:02:59,653 --> 00:03:02,173 Speaker 4: think some of their strengths and some of their talents 45 00:03:02,173 --> 00:03:05,293 Speaker 4: that get to mix with this really incredible songwriter. 46 00:03:05,653 --> 00:03:06,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he. 47 00:03:06,813 --> 00:03:09,973 Speaker 4: Still brings that soulful, beautiful voice that we know of his. 48 00:03:10,093 --> 00:03:12,493 Speaker 4: It's so rich, isn't it? And then to put it 49 00:03:12,533 --> 00:03:16,533 Speaker 4: in amongst some sort of rock it's sometimes it has 50 00:03:16,573 --> 00:03:21,093 Speaker 4: that real dusty sound of the desert and just his 51 00:03:21,253 --> 00:03:25,213 Speaker 4: clever storytelling too. Like I'm not necessarily one who's big 52 00:03:25,253 --> 00:03:28,413 Speaker 4: for spoken word and albums, right, but the bits where 53 00:03:28,453 --> 00:03:32,213 Speaker 4: he goes there, because there's such that they're characters that 54 00:03:32,253 --> 00:03:36,013 Speaker 4: he's developed, the leather man and stuff. It's kind of 55 00:03:36,773 --> 00:03:40,573 Speaker 4: funny and wild and quirky, and I mean literally on 56 00:03:40,653 --> 00:03:42,773 Speaker 4: the desert hikoy. They go for this hekoy at nighttime 57 00:03:42,773 --> 00:03:45,813 Speaker 4: into these caves, so you can you can really feel 58 00:03:45,813 --> 00:03:48,973 Speaker 4: that sense of that he has been inspired by taking 59 00:03:49,453 --> 00:03:52,973 Speaker 4: himself somewhere else and opening himself up to experiences that 60 00:03:53,653 --> 00:03:54,773 Speaker 4: he wouldn't have had otherwise. 61 00:03:54,813 --> 00:03:55,013 Speaker 1: You know. 62 00:03:55,333 --> 00:03:58,533 Speaker 2: So this is a really silly question, but so excuse 63 00:03:58,573 --> 00:04:01,853 Speaker 2: me for it. The cactus handshake, yo, is that his 64 00:04:02,093 --> 00:04:04,133 Speaker 2: like the regular musos he plays with and they're just 65 00:04:04,173 --> 00:04:09,173 Speaker 2: calling themselves a handshake for this, Yeah, I did. I 66 00:04:09,253 --> 00:04:10,533 Speaker 2: went on a bit of a deep dive and I 67 00:04:10,573 --> 00:04:13,453 Speaker 2: found a band called Cactus Handcheck but they're from Dundee 68 00:04:13,493 --> 00:04:16,853 Speaker 2: in Scotland, and I was like, was I weird? Like 69 00:04:17,613 --> 00:04:18,893 Speaker 2: he isn't is he? 70 00:04:18,893 --> 00:04:22,453 Speaker 4: He's like he hasn't taken some Scottish guy the. 71 00:04:22,453 --> 00:04:24,333 Speaker 2: Least desert like environment in the world. 72 00:04:25,853 --> 00:04:28,413 Speaker 4: That's so funny. I mean, imagine what the layers of 73 00:04:28,413 --> 00:04:32,293 Speaker 4: that album. Maybe maybe that's some inspiration for his his 74 00:04:32,453 --> 00:04:34,733 Speaker 4: ninth album in the series. I don't know, No, I 75 00:04:34,733 --> 00:04:37,413 Speaker 4: think that's a real nod to, you know, getting spiked 76 00:04:37,413 --> 00:04:39,253 Speaker 4: by some cactuses while you're hanging out in the desert 77 00:04:39,293 --> 00:04:43,413 Speaker 4: with people people. It was recorded at Rancho de la Luna, 78 00:04:43,773 --> 00:04:48,333 Speaker 4: which is like this weird, crazy studio that has been 79 00:04:48,693 --> 00:04:49,133 Speaker 4: of the sun. 80 00:04:49,293 --> 00:04:50,933 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally like. 81 00:04:50,973 --> 00:04:54,573 Speaker 4: And people like Roll Queens of the Stone Age have 82 00:04:54,733 --> 00:04:58,093 Speaker 4: made their albums there. Peter Harvey in a heap of 83 00:04:58,453 --> 00:05:00,773 Speaker 4: rock metal bands that I probably have no idea who 84 00:05:00,773 --> 00:05:03,453 Speaker 4: they are, but you know there's some real history in there, 85 00:05:03,493 --> 00:05:06,093 Speaker 4: and it's just got grimier and more history and more 86 00:05:06,133 --> 00:05:10,213 Speaker 4: cap everywhere. And if you get to watch the doc 87 00:05:10,253 --> 00:05:12,373 Speaker 4: I hear the album It's funny because one of the 88 00:05:12,413 --> 00:05:14,813 Speaker 4: songs he references the dog who's there hanging around with 89 00:05:14,893 --> 00:05:18,613 Speaker 4: them the whole time, and I love that, Like, isn't 90 00:05:18,653 --> 00:05:21,173 Speaker 4: it amazing? A lot is to be said of finding 91 00:05:21,173 --> 00:05:25,373 Speaker 4: our new inspiration from sometimes just putting yourself somewhere different. Yeah, 92 00:05:25,653 --> 00:05:27,613 Speaker 4: And I think that's yeah. I think it's really great. 93 00:05:27,613 --> 00:05:29,573 Speaker 4: So you have some of that real cowboy out into 94 00:05:29,613 --> 00:05:31,853 Speaker 4: the West kind of stuff. You have some of that 95 00:05:31,973 --> 00:05:36,173 Speaker 4: real grungey raw rock. I mean, it's very guitar riff heavy, 96 00:05:36,293 --> 00:05:40,013 Speaker 4: and there are some really dirty licks on the guitar 97 00:05:40,133 --> 00:05:42,893 Speaker 4: and the bass. And I feel like for all of them, 98 00:05:42,893 --> 00:05:45,533 Speaker 4: and especially his band, they're being able to really shine 99 00:05:45,573 --> 00:05:49,293 Speaker 4: and showcase their levels. But there's been a real journey 100 00:05:49,293 --> 00:05:50,733 Speaker 4: for all of them to get to the point of 101 00:05:50,773 --> 00:05:54,533 Speaker 4: releasing this album. Through the Night is a really fantastic 102 00:05:54,573 --> 00:05:56,693 Speaker 4: song that I think you're gonna play very soon. A 103 00:05:56,693 --> 00:05:59,413 Speaker 4: lot of people have really felt quite connected to that song. 104 00:06:00,693 --> 00:06:03,133 Speaker 4: Troy is calling the live show one of the scariest 105 00:06:03,173 --> 00:06:05,933 Speaker 4: live shows he has ever put together, so please come 106 00:06:05,973 --> 00:06:08,773 Speaker 4: and be geared with him. He's doing it in lots 107 00:06:08,773 --> 00:06:10,693 Speaker 4: of small venues because he's like, this is not a 108 00:06:10,733 --> 00:06:13,853 Speaker 4: sit down, be polite. Watch we'll play this is We're 109 00:06:13,853 --> 00:06:17,293 Speaker 4: going to get sweaty and grim me together while you rock. 110 00:06:17,533 --> 00:06:19,693 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. 111 00:06:19,733 --> 00:06:21,493 Speaker 4: That starts at when it died Double Wing on the 112 00:06:21,493 --> 00:06:23,493 Speaker 4: sixth of September, and then he's doing the whole country. 113 00:06:23,573 --> 00:06:24,693 Speaker 1: So ah, so good. 114 00:06:24,693 --> 00:06:26,773 Speaker 2: I mean, I always love working. I think he's amazing 115 00:06:26,813 --> 00:06:29,133 Speaker 2: friend of the show course, So what did you give 116 00:06:29,213 --> 00:06:31,213 Speaker 2: leather Man, Anima, Harvey Green, go. 117 00:06:31,253 --> 00:06:32,173 Speaker 4: On, it's going to be a time. 118 00:06:32,253 --> 00:06:36,173 Speaker 2: Ah, there we go waiting, here we go, very good. Okay, 119 00:06:36,253 --> 00:06:38,293 Speaker 2: we're gonna make sure of a listening to a couple 120 00:06:38,333 --> 00:06:40,413 Speaker 2: of minutes through the night is the one you reckon 121 00:06:40,413 --> 00:06:41,773 Speaker 2: we should never listen to next, So we'll do that. 122 00:06:41,773 --> 00:06:44,053 Speaker 2: Thank you so much to Stelle. Stelle Clifford is our 123 00:06:44,133 --> 00:06:44,933 Speaker 2: music reviewer. 124 00:06:45,653 --> 00:06:48,773 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 125 00:06:48,853 --> 00:06:51,653 Speaker 1: to news talks he'd be from nine am Saturday, or 126 00:06:51,733 --> 00:06:53,653 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.