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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Rainthrover leading by example, news togs.

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Speaker 2: Dead be well, you welcome today. New stats around well,

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Speaker 2: A lot of stuff, our lack of nurses, the size

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Speaker 2: of our creative sect, of the price of food, the

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Speaker 2: number of people in jail. Will also talk to the

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Speaker 2: black Caps coach ahead of the chapel had Lee Mark

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Speaker 2: and Jimmy Politics Wednesday after eight Richard Arnold, Dennis Shanahan

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Speaker 2: to the business as well. Pasky looking forward to Wednesday

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Speaker 2: seven past six. I tell you what I've only nostalgia

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Speaker 2: paid the bills a but when it comes to peaches,

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Speaker 2: clearly it doesn't what he's routers. I'm sure you're well

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Speaker 2: aware by now. PAMs. PAMs do a good line of

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Speaker 2: imported stuff. Those who buy peaches and tins like cheap

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Speaker 2: A lot of us like cheap. Cheap has never been

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Speaker 2: more appealing in the cost of living crisis, of course,

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Speaker 2: And if I was in the business of patriotic purchase,

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Speaker 2: I would close my door and go home. It does work,

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Speaker 2: and I was looking this up yesterday. It does work

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Speaker 2: to a degree. Overseas Australia's running a buy Aussie campaign

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Speaker 2: which has had some traction. Canada, you might be aware,

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Speaker 2: gave it a good push post that tariff debarcle. French

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Speaker 2: are into it. But a place like New Zealand, despite

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Speaker 2: the rhetoric, has never really excelled at being good at

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Speaker 2: buying local hasard. I mean, PAMs do peaches at ninety

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Speaker 2: nine cents? Whaties are doing them at three point ninety?

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Speaker 2: They would have to be some pretty spectacular fruit for

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Speaker 2: that price. And that is why what is they told

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Speaker 2: us yesterday are out. Demand is down. People are simply

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Speaker 2: not buying that stuff anymore. Who needs Brian down the

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Speaker 2: road in the Bay when you can have fruit from

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Speaker 2: Lord knows where at a fraction of the price. Peaches

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Speaker 2: are also out of favor, as Greg, my hairdresser, and

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Speaker 2: I were talking about yesterday afternoon. Who buys cans of

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Speaker 2: peaches anymore? Anyway? It's school camp food, he said, But

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Speaker 2: he might just be one of those trendy urbanites. I

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Speaker 2: walked him down memory Lane with my childhood canned fruit salad.

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Speaker 2: You remember that day at peaches and then pears and

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Speaker 2: apples and two cherries, the cherries with a prize. I'd

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Speaker 2: happily burn a whole can of syrupy crap to land

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Speaker 2: those two cherries. Love the cherries. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: One of the tricks in life is honesty. When we

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Speaker 2: face these issues, we burn a lot of energy and

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Speaker 2: time on things we know aren't going to work or

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Speaker 2: a past they are used by date, or are indeed

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Speaker 2: a waste of time. Marching, for Gars is not saving

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Speaker 2: the seat lifele stopping the war. Turning up at cop

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Speaker 2: thirty isn't going to get us an inch closer and

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Speaker 2: at zero helling Clark is never going to think more

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Speaker 2: constants of Eden Park is good and we don't like

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Speaker 2: local anything if we pay more than some cheap crap

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Speaker 2: from Vietnam or Timu. It is what it is.

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Speaker 2: Double war coverage for you. War one Middle East un

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Speaker 1: It belongs in the ben It is rubbish.

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Speaker 3: It completely distorts international law, distorts the Geneva Conventions, distorts

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Speaker 2: War number two Ukraine Trump to meet Starma Vlod's watching

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Speaker 4: Much hope that Prime Minister Starma will be able to

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Speaker 2: And of course Trump will meet Starma at Czechs, which

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Speaker 2: means he's in Britain, which is not all that popular.

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Speaker 5: Humiliating for the British public. Our protests you can expect

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Speaker 5: to see people from all walks of life joining together

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Speaker 5: rhetoric of hate, against this divisiveness that we're seeing from Trump.

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Speaker 2: Man him self, life phizing, prit.

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Speaker 6: Charles and Camilla, the friends of mine for a long time,

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Speaker 6: long before he was king. And it's an honor to

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Speaker 6: have this thing.

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Speaker 2: And you know he's I think he.

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Speaker 6: Represents the country so well. I've watched he sets an

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Speaker 2: He's right on that now. Then back in Washington on

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Speaker 2: the Hill, the scene, the Senate Judiciary Committee, the pliers,

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Speaker 7: Director Patel again sparked mass confusion by incorrectly claiming on

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Speaker 7: social media that the six shooter was in custody, which

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Speaker 7: he then had to walk back with another social media post,

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Speaker 7: the professionals do their job.

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Speaker 4: To be the ninth director of the FBI, I'm not

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Speaker 4: going anywhere. If you want to criticize my sixteen years

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Speaker 2: Finally, one of the greats has died, Robert Redford eighty nine. Yes,

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Speaker 8: The reason I started Sundownce was because I felt that

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Speaker 8: the mainstream was completely controlling exhibition, and I just felt

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Speaker 8: there were a whole lot of other people out there

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Speaker 2: He was, of course right, wasn't he News of the

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Speaker 2: world In ninety second Lisa Cooker win for her. She's

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Speaker 2: the one Trump wanted to fire, so she will be

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Speaker 2: at that meeting this week to vote on potential rate cuts.

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Speaker 2: the way, to Mirrorn Stephen Mirren, who is his current

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Speaker 2: pick to get on the FED, but for different reasons anyway,

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Speaker 2: that's just been ticked off by the Senate. He got

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Speaker 2: Evy utah Da is just announcing charges against the kirk

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Speaker 2: Maria Corfield who's a former health minister in Britain. She's

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Speaker 2: the latest to defect to reform this morning. If you're

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Speaker 2: a conservative, right minded, then the future has reformed. The

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Speaker 2: So another day, another desertion of fifteen pars six from

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Speaker 2: JMI wife Andrew Keller had good morning, very good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: It's okay. I mean it's not up, but it's okay,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 9: This dairy auction, yeah, so I think there'll be a

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Speaker 9: little bit of relief around the traps actually after this

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Speaker 9: outcome overnight. So yeah, global dairy trade auction ran last

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Speaker 9: night and the price index has fallen zero point eight percent,

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Speaker 9: which is a far better outcome I think than had

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Speaker 9: been feared, and particularly when compared to the four point

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Speaker 9: three percent fall. And that was quite the sort of

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Speaker 9: unexpected for in the price at the last auction on

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Speaker 9: here Micas Since that last auction, we've seen further weakness

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Speaker 9: in these these futures contracts, these derivative contracts that trade

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Speaker 9: contracts on whole milk powder, skin miik powder. They've been

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Speaker 9: they had fallen so which led to fears we may

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Speaker 9: see another chunky fall in the auction over I would say, Mike,

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Speaker 9: these futures, the futures price action hasn't always been a

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Speaker 9: great guide or an indicative of what happens in the

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Speaker 9: global dairy trade. Auction tends to be useful directionally, so

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Speaker 9: if it's weaker, it tends to you know, you see

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Speaker 9: that directional lead, But the magnitude it doesn't always it's

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Speaker 9: not always a great read.

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Speaker 2: On the magnitude.

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Speaker 9: Those key contracts in the auction last night, skin milk

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Speaker 9: powder are pretty much flat down zero point three percent,

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Speaker 9: whole more powder down zero point eight percent, which both

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Speaker 9: zero point eight percent, but mozzarella big fall in mozzarella

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Speaker 9: down nine point six percent, So the pizza manufacturers will

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Speaker 9: bit better than I think had been feared.

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Speaker 2: A lot of emphasis on food yesterday, but they weren't

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Speaker 2: the only numbers, were they.

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Speaker 9: No, No, no, that's using Yesterday released the monthly Selective

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Speaker 9: Price Indexes, which measures the inflation approximately fifty percent of

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Speaker 9: the items that make up the Consumer Price Index. Key

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Speaker 9: takeaway from the DADIA yesterday is that the total combined

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Speaker 9: move in the items represented was a little weaker than expected,

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Speaker 9: which suggests Mike that the peak in CPI inflation could

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Speaker 9: there's a possibility that will be a little bit lower

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Speaker 9: than had been forecasts. The context there, we've got the

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Speaker 9: one point three percent sort of band, that's the target band.

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Speaker 9: That were the concerns that we were going to flirt

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Speaker 9: got yeshs maybe we don't. That's good news for the

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Speaker 9: RB and Z and all certain let doesn't stand in

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Speaker 9: the way of the expected OCR cuts. Were still expecting

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Speaker 9: a couple of cuts before Christmas. That'll get the OCR

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Speaker 9: to two and a half percent. I think that's still

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Speaker 9: a valid assumption. The interesting thing Mike here is that

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Speaker 9: that outcome yesterday on those selective price indecks opened the

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Speaker 9: door to a conversation around do we need more? Do

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Speaker 9: we need to get that OCA below two and a half?

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Speaker 9: I think that's premature, but it was being discussed. Food

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Speaker 9: and that's understandable. We will ultimately have to eat and

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Speaker 9: it represents eighteen and a half percent of the CPI

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Speaker 9: basket rose zero point three percent in the month. That

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Speaker 9: was running at zero point seven last month. Year on year,

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Speaker 9: though food price inflation is still running at five percent,

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Speaker 9: that's the highest percent at since November twenty three. Your

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Speaker 9: fruit and veggies, Mike, I know you're like your fruit

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Speaker 9: and veggies eight point nine percent year on year.

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Speaker 2: There, give it that sword that was cabbages, though cabbages

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Speaker 2: were eighty five percent. Look skew the market, Hendrew.

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Speaker 9: There's some crazy numbers in here. If you're a dedicated

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Speaker 9: carnival beef prices up up over twenty percent, and lamb

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Speaker 9: even higher than that. So but doesn't this all represent.

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Speaker 2: Inside those noom represents this conundrum.

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Speaker 9: This is wonderful for the people making it, not so

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Speaker 9: much for the people using it. So unfortunately, it's great

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Speaker 9: for the exporters, but just not so much for the consumers.

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Speaker 9: The only other thing I want to mention in that Mike,

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Speaker 9: Yesterday's rents rents as eleven percent of the CPI basket.

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Speaker 9: Good news yesterday for renters, not so much for rental

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Speaker 9: property owners. Annual rent inflation running at two point one

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Speaker 9: percent is the lowest we've seen it in fifteen years,

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Speaker 9: and there's no real catalyst for that to push higher

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Speaker 2: Oh exactly, And having said that, these these house price things,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the ari I and Z house price index are

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Speaker 9: still very subdued house price movements. House price index at

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Speaker 9: zero foo point four percent year and your NAT nationally

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Speaker 9: I sort of take a step back five year compound

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Speaker 9: growth rate three point two percent, which on a real

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Speaker 9: basis take inflation off, that be close to zero, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 9: Auckland unchanged over the outside of Augan zero point seven percent.

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Speaker 9: Sales declined year and year a month and month for

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Speaker 9: nine percent. The only thing here might median days to

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Speaker 9: want to highlight medium days to sell in Auckland fell

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Speaker 9: four days, so you never know. Something may be stirring

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Speaker 2: the whole build it and they will come. Theory doesn't up.

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Speaker 2: It be yes talking to an Asian speaking of real estair.

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Speaker 10: It's a hard thing I realizing people I don't who

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Speaker 1: Then we'll get it. Whatever it takes, only to be perfect.

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Speaker 11: Someday comes back.

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Speaker 2: The gap between the American dream and the American reality.

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Speaker 2: That's my territory, Bruce Springsteen. One of the great quotes

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Speaker 2: of all time. Springsteen delivered me from Nowhere. It looks

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Speaker 2: Other words, the ongoing issues seem to have stopped. Deary

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Speaker 2: continues that Juggernau Act milk cup sixteen, cheese twenty six,

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Speaker 2: will as John, morning to you.

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Speaker 12: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: What's your understanding of the dairy story. What's your vibe

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Speaker 2: around this discussion we've been having in the country. Everyone

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Speaker 2: do you think people finally understand why?

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Speaker 11: I hope so, and certainly understand, you know, having three

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Speaker 11: Weport ninety plus of our product overseas, so we feel

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Speaker 2: Indeed, is there any actual issue when we come to

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Speaker 11: Or not, not that we're aware of, Mike, And look,

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Speaker 11: you know, we are further away from it being farmers

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Speaker 2: And I think, great, you can't we I mean if

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Speaker 11: Yeah, definitely, And from us out to speak of his farmers,

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Speaker 2: Exactly. How bullishing you guys feeling at the moment, I mean,

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Speaker 13: Really?

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Speaker 11: There's definitely a really strong sense of optimism. I think

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Speaker 2: Great stuff, John, appreciate your time, as John Stevenson, who's

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Speaker 2: the Fonterra Cooperative council chair. Just to run you through

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Speaker 2: five percent? I mean, no one likes paying more. I

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Speaker 2: Restaurant meals ready to eat food up two point four.

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Speaker 2: Non alcoholic beverages that's fuzzy crap. Don't buy it. Three

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Speaker 2: point nine percent up, don't buy it. Non food are

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Speaker 2: rent prices increase two point one that's pretty reasonable. Cigarettes

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Speaker 2: though up eight point three. Electricity prices and this is

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Speaker 2: focusing on rates, insurance and electricity. Electricity up eleven point

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Speaker 2: old story nineteen two.

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Speaker 2: Pasking Mike, how do I put this? We pay premium prices,

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Speaker 2: but we don't get the premium product here in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: so about. That's crap, complete crap. You can buy the

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Speaker 2: very best export quality meat, lamb beef, fruit bitch. I

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Speaker 2: mean obviously you can don't. It's not everywhere, but if

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Speaker 2: you want to shop around, you cam food doesn't go

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Speaker 2: up and down in New Zealand Mike our seemingly preferred

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Speaker 2: measure as it goes up. Well, I just told your

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Speaker 2: key we fruit's gone down, so it does go down.

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Speaker 14: Six to forty five International correspondence with enzet Eye Insurance

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Speaker 14: peace of mind for New Zealand business?

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Speaker 2: Would it Arnold? Good morning? When's the land? Has he

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Speaker 2: landed you?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Soon?

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Speaker 15: He is just present. Trump on his way to the

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Speaker 15: UK so won't be so long as Europe is looking

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Speaker 15: for help to support Ukraine, and as Britain's PM is

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Speaker 15: facing tough challenges as well. Trump of course not so

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Speaker 15: popular in Britain, but flattery is a way that many

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Speaker 15: have found effective in dealing with him. So Trump will

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Speaker 15: make history as the first elected leader to receive not one,

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Speaker 15: but two state visits courtesy of the royal family. He

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Speaker 15: will stay over night at Windsor Castle as the guest

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Speaker 15: of Charles and Camilla, and will join them in a

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Speaker 15: carriage procession. But unlike the one arranged for French lead

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Speaker 15: to mccron this year, it will not be through the

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Speaker 15: streets of Windsor but on the private royal estate, so

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Speaker 15: away from any protesters. Right there will be thirteen hundred

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Speaker 15: military personnel and one hundred and twenty horses taking part,

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Speaker 15: with Hurricans noting that Trump will get more horses than

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Speaker 15: Macron did. They're counting seriously. Trump leaves behind the chaotic

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Speaker 15: aftermath of the murder of Trump supported Charlie Kirk, as

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Speaker 15: you've been noting his accused assassin now now being charged.

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Speaker 15: Utah's Jeff Gray charging twenty two year old Tyler Robinson

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Speaker 15: with seven counts, including aggravated murder. You've you've listed them

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Speaker 15: just moments ago, along with various charges of obstruction and

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Speaker 15: witness tampering, where the accused killer is charged was trying

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Speaker 15: to get his roommate to delete potentially incriminating texts.

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Speaker 16: Grace is also I am filing a notice of intent

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Speaker 16: to seek the death penalty. I do not take this

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Speaker 16: decision lightly, and it is a decision I have made independently.

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Speaker 15: That, of course, is something that Trump had called for.

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Speaker 15: The case also was a focus of a rowdy Capitol

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Speaker 15: Hill hearing a short time ago featuring the FBI Director

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Speaker 15: Cash Patel, who was grilled over the Kirk investigation and

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Speaker 15: his purge of top FBI officials that brought well lots

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Speaker 15: of heated exchanges. That's pretty much what the lawmakers do

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Speaker 15: these days? They shouted each other, including this exchange with

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Speaker 15: Democratic Senator Corey Booker.

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Speaker 17: I don't think you're fitting on the bureau. But here's

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Speaker 17: the thing, mister Patel, I think you're not going to

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Speaker 17: be around long. I think this might be your last

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Speaker 17: oversight hearing it's.

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Speaker 1: My time, not yours, my god, my god, to talk about.

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Speaker 17: Biding this country. It is you on your social media

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Speaker 17: post is come to asy all your.

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Speaker 18: Time for?

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Speaker 15: So you're at the time times like this, you wish

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Speaker 15: he had a gavel right meantime, Trump, as he left

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Speaker 15: the White House, announced a fifteen billion US dollar defamation

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Speaker 15: suit against The New York Times Now for allegedly disparaging

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Speaker 15: his reputation as a political candidate and businessman than Trump

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Speaker 15: slamm Jonathan Carl who was with American ABC, as he

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Speaker 15: asked this question, and what do you think.

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Speaker 1: Camp Bondi says she's going to go after a hate speech?

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Speaker 6: Is that?

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Speaker 1: I mean prot of people?

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Speaker 12: A lot of your ally say hate.

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Speaker 1: Speech is free speech.

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Speaker 6: You should probably go after people like you because you

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Speaker 6: threep me so unfairly attained. Do you have a lot

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Speaker 6: of hate in your heart?

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Speaker 15: Trump saying he should probably go up to people like

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Speaker 15: the network host. Then he slammed Australian reporter John Lyons

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Speaker 15: with the Australian ABC, who asked about how much wealth

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Speaker 15: Trump has gained wild in offers.

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Speaker 9: Privately to then in office, could be engaged in so

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Speaker 9: much bit of activity. Well, I'm really not.

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Speaker 1: My kids are running the business.

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Speaker 7: I'm here.

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Speaker 6: You know what the activity.

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Speaker 1: Where are you from?

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Speaker 11: I'm from the Australian broad Catholic rite and pull porn and.

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Speaker 1: Provide the Australias.

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Speaker 6: You're hurting Australia right in my opinion, you are hurting

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Speaker 6: Australia very much right now. Now they want to get

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Speaker 6: along with me. You know your your your leader is

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Speaker 6: coming over to see me very so I'm going to

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Speaker 6: tell them about you. You said a very bad tone.

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Speaker 6: Go ahead, John, you can set a nice deal.

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Speaker 15: Wasn't quiet, says Trump as he walked away without answering

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Speaker 15: a question about where them there's any link between a

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Speaker 15: two billion dollar deal with the United Arab Emirates and

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Speaker 15: the Trump family related crypto company. Soon after, the White

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Speaker 15: House back giving the Amorantes access to highly sensitive AI chips,

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Speaker 15: with some critics arguing that could damage US national security.

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Speaker 2: So you're in front of my appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: Richard onstight Side just an odd pole, Oldish pole. Speaking

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Speaker 2: of Trump and the aforementioned alban EASi, ty two percent

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Speaker 2: of Australians believe it's important for alb and easy to

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Speaker 2: meet Trump fifty seven percent supporter except August twenty two

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Speaker 2: percent actively support the acquisition of nuclear powered submarines. The

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Speaker 2: read from Australians on Trump is it twenty two percent

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Speaker 2: positive view of Trump twenty two percent. That's actually up

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Speaker 2: four points believe it on not fifty eight percent of

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Speaker 2: Australians think they've got a negative view. As far as

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Speaker 2: Palestine's concerned, no one cares. Essentially, should they recognize Palestine?

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine percent say yes, The rest either don't know

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Speaker 2: or say no. Turn away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Should the make hosking breakfast with rainthrow fer news Tog's

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Speaker 1: dead vs.

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Speaker 2: By the way, rude Trump standby for huge. I alluded

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Speaker 2: to this yesterday as a couple of major, massive nuclear

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Speaker 2: deals going to be signed off in the next couple

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Speaker 2: of days between Britain and the US. Also overnight, Google

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Speaker 2: are putting in five billion pounds, so about eleven twelve

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Speaker 2: billion yew Zealand dollars into data in that particular part

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Speaker 2: of the world, Malawi. I also told you about yesterday

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Speaker 2: or the day before, can't remember. They finished, poles have closed,

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Speaker 2: they're standing by for the counting. It was everybody was

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Speaker 2: up for grabs, local councils, MPs. What everyone's wanting for

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Speaker 2: is the presidential race. The incumbent wants a second term.

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Speaker 2: The other guy, who's super old, he wants to fix

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Speaker 2: the economy. The economy is a mess, complete not a mess. Anyway.

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Speaker 2: If no candidate gets the fifty percent, they will go again.

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Speaker 2: The top two contenders will go again. I think they're

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Speaker 2: about seventeen actual contenders. And let me come back to

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Speaker 2: this later, because I knew this was going to happen.

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Speaker 2: And good on Rob McDonald for saying so contact Energy.

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Speaker 2: He's the independent chair Shane Jones. In this business of

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Speaker 2: renationalizing power companies, David Seymour I noted the other day,

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Speaker 2: and this is where the tension in the coalition comes

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Speaker 2: to the fore. David Seymour said the other day what

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Speaker 2: business needs is consistency. What it doesn't need is people

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Speaker 2: saying a whole lot of random stuff that may or

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Speaker 2: may not come to pass. We welcome, says Rob McDonald.

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Speaker 2: We welcome the government's initiatives to improve resource consenting. This

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Speaker 2: is around power calls for fundamental undefined market reform and

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Speaker 2: its potential impact on investment confidence is of concern. So

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Speaker 2: hopefully Shane Jones has got the message ive away from seven.

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Speaker 1: All the ins and the outs. It's the biz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Dope, you old meat. We had the new Apple launch

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Speaker 2: this time last week, right, the iPhone seventeen, the iPhone Air.

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Speaker 2: They were the big drawer cards. What I didn't realize

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Speaker 2: is you couldn't get one of these because the launch

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Speaker 2: is not launch day, so they just tell you about

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Speaker 2: it and then they it's like the announcement of the announcement.

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Speaker 2: They've been watching just cinder, So pre orders launch days

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Speaker 2: this Friday. So the most popular model, here's the interesting thing.

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Speaker 2: The most popular model is the seventeen pro Max. What

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Speaker 2: cost of living crisis. Obviously these people have given up

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Speaker 2: the features and they're buying cheap cuts of meat so

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Speaker 2: they can afford the seventeen Promax. So popular in the US.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to get yours until mid October. This

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Speaker 2: is the oldest trick in the book. This is the

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Speaker 2: Apple trick one to oh one. It's the oh I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what. We're running out of Apple. It's incredible

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Speaker 2: the demand we've got when you only make three phones,

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Speaker 2: when you've got a queue of seven people, guess what

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Speaker 2: you can say. The Pro Max model starts at twenty

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Speaker 2: five hundred and forty nine dollars. You get two fifty

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Speaker 2: six gigs. You can pay as much as four thousand,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty nine. You do, of course, get

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Speaker 2: two terabytes, which, as I mentioned the other day, allows

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Speaker 2: you to I think it's four suburbs of Hamilton. If

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Speaker 2: you plug it into Hamilton, four suburbs will light up

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Speaker 2: with that sort of storage. They're starting to run out

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Speaker 2: of the early stocks of the base iPhone seventeen and

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Speaker 2: the seventeen Pro got old. We're starting to run out

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Speaker 2: apparently people put off by they're not put off by

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Speaker 2: the reports of low battery life and aless so the

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Speaker 2: Apple haven't done enough marketing to show it doesn't crack

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Speaker 2: any easier if you don't drop it.

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Speaker 1: This is the air now that you're talking about it

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Speaker 1: who cares?

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Speaker 2: So they're just phones made.

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Speaker 19: The point of that information is that the air is

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Speaker 19: not apparently all sold out, even though it's the new product.

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Speaker 2: Oh I see. So what you're saying is people aren't

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Speaker 2: getting well. They're t too gripped by the top of

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Speaker 2: the line, aren't they.

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Speaker 1: They don't want the skinny one.

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Speaker 2: They don't want the skinny one, they want the top

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Speaker 2: of the line. They're up selling themselves, so they're not

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Speaker 2: peach buyers. So we can't afford peaches, and we can't

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Speaker 2: afford the cost of living, but we can afford the best,

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Speaker 2: most expensive phone on the market. How do you explain,

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Speaker 2: don't want to buy butter, can't buy Butter, but we

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Speaker 2: can buy the most expensive phone on the market. How

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Speaker 2: do you explain this idiocy?

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know,

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Veda, Retirement Communities, Life

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Speaker 1: Your Way News, togs Head.

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Speaker 2: Be seven past seven, So new insight into our crime story.

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Speaker 2: Latest data shows jail sentences at record highs. We've got

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Speaker 2: seventy four hundred and fifteen people sentenced to prison in

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Speaker 2: the year to June, which is up fourteen percent. Robbery

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Speaker 2: led the way imprisonment rate there of sixty one percent. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: cannabis and meth possession charges their back back at twenty

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Speaker 2: nineteen levels. Steve Cullen, criminal lawyer, back with au Steve,

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Speaker 2: morning to you, good body. So we're either committing a

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Speaker 2: great deal more crime or the guidance from the government

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Speaker 2: to put them in jailers working.

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Speaker 1: Is it the latter, Well, we.

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Speaker 12: Could speak a latter, so Ladder that could be contributing

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Speaker 12: to it. I'll tell you one thing that struck me.

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Speaker 12: I've been talking to one of your reporters, Jordan Done.

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Speaker 12: There's been a more than doubling of people violating their

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Speaker 12: em bail, and of course the judge's view will be

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Speaker 12: if you violate your bail, violate electronically monitored bail, then

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Speaker 12: you're not going to be set up for an electronically

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Speaker 12: monitored sentence. So people have been writing their own prescription

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Speaker 12: to go to prison. That could well be contributing to

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Speaker 12: it as well.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, what about the gang population. Is it full of gangs?

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Speaker 2: We had some gang stats the other day, I mean

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Speaker 2: huge numbers of people in gangs. So we're just essentially

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Speaker 2: we're locking up more people more often, aren't.

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Speaker 12: We as we are? And that it seems that people

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Speaker 12: we're locking up are the ones that need to be

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Speaker 12: locked up.

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Speaker 2: The discounting part, are you seeing any change in that?

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Speaker 2: In other words, with the law suggesting you can't discount

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Speaker 2: as much, would that lead to more people going behind bars?

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Speaker 12: Well it has had an effect undoubtedly. Because we've got

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Speaker 12: mandatory reductions and the discounts available, judges aren't able to

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Speaker 12: perhaps be as benevolent the people as they want to be,

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Speaker 12: So yes, that is having an impact as well.

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Speaker 2: Overall, fifteen percent get a prison sentence, which strikes me.

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Speaker 2: We have a tremendous number of people who commit crime.

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Speaker 2: It's eighty five percent of people don't go to jail,

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Speaker 2: so hell of a lot of crime. Is there something

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Speaker 2: wrong with us?

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Speaker 12: Well, it can be due to a wave of young

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Speaker 12: people coming through. It can also be due to social media.

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Speaker 12: It could be due to gang influences and drug influencers.

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Speaker 12: We'd need some sort of information about what's causing it.

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Speaker 12: But it's really worrying when you see such a large

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Speaker 12: proportion of people involved in illegal activity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to need to build more prisons, aren't

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Speaker 2: we if we keep putting fourteen percent more in jail

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Speaker 2: each year, we're going to be full before we know it.

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Speaker 12: That's right. I see one of the countries i'm sure

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Speaker 12: is now building a prison that's a floating island so

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Speaker 12: that people can't jump over the side and from back

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Speaker 12: to shore. Goodness knows. I hope we don't get to that.

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Speaker 2: No, but we've got the politics versus the rehab story,

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Speaker 2: haven't we. The politics of this probably plays well to

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Speaker 2: middle New Zealand, doesn't it. I mean, there is a

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Speaker 2: sense that people want people put in jail for crime

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Speaker 2: that we don't want to deal with well.

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Speaker 12: Aging population, everybody gets fearful. They want everybody locked up

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Speaker 12: to keep them away, so they all feel saints.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so appreciated its step. Callen criminal lawyer

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Speaker 2: with us this morning, coming up ten minutes past seven

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Speaker 2: and seemingly never ending battle over healthcare in this country.

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Speaker 2: Later stat show on average we were five hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty seven nurses per shift short last year. This is

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Speaker 2: some infometrics work done for the Nurses Council now. Rob

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Speaker 2: Campbell is of course, the former Health New Zealand chair.

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Speaker 2: In his back with us, Rob morning, to you, you

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Speaker 2: can do a lot with numbers this morning. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: can do a lot with numbers. Count you one point

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Speaker 2: sixty nine million shifts. So what does that mean? I mean,

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Speaker 2: being five hundred and eighty seven short on average out

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Speaker 2: of one point sixty nine million shifts between twenty two

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Speaker 2: and twenty four. Is that a disaster? Is it a

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Speaker 2: bit short?

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Speaker 16: Is it?

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Speaker 12: What is it?

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Speaker 18: It's more than a bit short. It's probably on its

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Speaker 18: own short of a disaster. But it's just something that

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Speaker 18: we've known. Everyone working in or around the health system

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Speaker 18: has known that a lot of shifts were short staffed

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Speaker 18: for nursing staff and other staff. So it's proving something

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Speaker 18: we knew and they're only having to prove it because

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Speaker 18: the management and politicians have been denying something that we

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Speaker 18: all knew was true.

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Speaker 2: So it went from six point eighty four on average

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Speaker 2: down to five eight seven. So is the changes announced

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Speaker 2: and more nurses being employed. Is that slowly but surely

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Speaker 2: improving the scenario?

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Speaker 18: I think it's been in blocks, Mike. There have been

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Speaker 18: some pretty big recruitment campaigns. There's also obviously some leakage

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Speaker 18: to Australia and out to the private sector, but there's

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Speaker 18: been I think a minor improvement, but the problem is

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Speaker 18: that the demand side is also increasing, so you know,

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Speaker 18: this is a difficult issue for everyone involved. To me,

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Speaker 18: the issue here is, we know that's a big issue

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Speaker 18: for everyone involved. We know that staffing is a problem.

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Speaker 18: We've got to be able to deal with it openly

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Speaker 18: and honestly. And I think the thing that disturbs me

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Speaker 18: is not so much the numbers, because they were really known.

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Speaker 18: What disturbs me is that Health New Zealand ministersm mystry.

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Speaker 18: We're all trying to deny that this was happening when

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Speaker 18: we all knew it was true. It doesn't help.

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Speaker 2: Is it a dispute over numbers? In other words, they're saying, no,

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Speaker 2: these numbers are wrong and we're not short. Or is

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Speaker 2: it simply about money, Yes, we can employ hundreds more,

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Speaker 2: but we don't have the money to do it.

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Speaker 18: Well, I think they obfuscate. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 18: these numbers within some range of being accurate at this time,

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Speaker 18: because of course they look back historically. So there is

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Speaker 18: a problem. The first thing you've got to do is

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Speaker 18: to admit there's a problem and then sit down and

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Speaker 18: work out what the solutions are At the moment. What

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Speaker 18: the nurses and others have had to face is people

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Speaker 18: saying there's not a problem, you're wrong and they knew

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Speaker 18: they went wrong, and now everybody knows they weren't wrong.

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Speaker 2: And the other part of the question, even if we

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Speaker 2: did have the money, is there, is there the supply

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Speaker 2: there or do we have to tap the international market

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Speaker 2: or if we tap the international market to exhaustion.

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Speaker 18: I think we know we haven't tapped it to exhaustion.

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Speaker 18: But it's also not a long run answer. That you

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Speaker 18: need to be able to plan these kinds of workforce things,

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Speaker 18: and so we do need more train of these sorts

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Speaker 18: of skills and we need to be able to offer

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Speaker 18: secure employment to those people. So it's a long term issue.

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Speaker 18: This is not something that's going to go away by

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Speaker 18: employing a few hundred more nurses in one block. It's

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Speaker 18: an ongoing issue that we've got to address openly.

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Speaker 2: Good Insight. Rob Prescure at Rob Campbell, who is the

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Speaker 2: former chair of Health New Zealand thirteen minutes past seven

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Speaker 2: past the media's re launch of Chippy. This is quite funny,

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Speaker 2: the media's relaunch of Chippy, And I'll come to the

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Speaker 2: poll in the moment. The media's relaunch of Chippy off

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Speaker 2: the back of the snail pace economic recovery makes me

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Speaker 2: vomit in my mouth. It's a little bit exaggerated, Warren,

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Speaker 2: isn't it? Nowhere is it placed in these media reports.

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Speaker 2: The absolute fact, the known failure is fake news that

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Speaker 2: Chippy either presided over or was complicit to. This coming

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Speaker 2: election is defining for New Zealand. If Facebook sound by

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Speaker 2: voters come off the picket lines will take a break

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Speaker 2: from their handlooing and chain shackling to vote, we have

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Speaker 2: a problem. Charlotte and chipping is mostly in competent cohorts

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Speaker 2: will consign New Zealand to economic purgatory. To be fair,

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Speaker 2: I think there is a sin that the last government

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Speaker 2: were responsible for the plight were.

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Speaker 1: In or is there?

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Speaker 2: And that's where yesterday's poll makes for fascinating reading. More

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Speaker 2: on a moment fourteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks that.

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Speaker 2: Be Mike, unions are the problem for the nurses once again,

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Speaker 2: I tend to agree that was a classic one of

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Speaker 2: those union hires and an economists to crunch some numbers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, isn't every workplace shorter people on any given day?

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Speaker 2: And if you look at all the hospitals and all

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Speaker 2: the units and all the wards all around the country

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Speaker 2: on even get a day, and all the people who

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Speaker 2: ring and sick, you're going to be short, aren't you mean?

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Speaker 2: This place will be short today. I don't know who

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Speaker 2: hasn't turned up yet, but there will be short today.

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Speaker 2: We're not hiring brad Olsen to come up with numbers

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Speaker 2: and tell us how miserable the whole thing is. We

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Speaker 2: get on with life. Seventeen past seven. So here's an

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Speaker 2: insight along with some good news. New numbers out of

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Speaker 2: the country's creative sector shows it's our fourth largest export industry.

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Speaker 2: It's worth thirteen billion, supporting one hundred thousand jobs. Also

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Speaker 2: made more productive than It's also more productive than agriculture.

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Speaker 2: Apparently there's a claim. Claire Robinson's the CEO of the

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Speaker 2: Workforce Development Council and as well as clear Morning Morning, Mike,

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Speaker 2: you change jobs?

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Speaker 12: I did? I did.

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Speaker 20: I joined a the toy my Workforce Development Council four

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Speaker 20: years ago to lead it. Unfortunately, we're being established at

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Speaker 20: the end of the years that I'll be back to

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Speaker 20: political commentating in no time.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, well has it worked out? Well, that's been

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Speaker 2: a nice job. While has lasted, it's been great.

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Speaker 20: We've had such a great time. We've done such a

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Speaker 20: lot and we've done some really amazing research. As the

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Speaker 20: ads you're talking about today.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed creative. What's creative? I mean do you put

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Speaker 2: tech in there? I mean tech's huge, isn't it.

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Speaker 20: Oh yeah, text huge by itself, But there are industries

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Speaker 20: that crossover. So you thinking about game development, post production, music,

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Speaker 20: technology design, So there's creative, creative tech, digital tech. It's

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Speaker 20: kind of all one big family. The problem is that

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Speaker 20: the New Zealand economy doesn't measure them specifically. So yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 20: you join them together.

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Speaker 2: And you also need a voice because I mean, no

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Speaker 2: one's got a louder voice than the farmersn't good on

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Speaker 2: them and if you grow key we fruit or grapes,

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Speaker 2: everyone knows what's going on there. But I mean you

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Speaker 2: need a voice for the sector because it's booming, isn't it.

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Speaker 11: It's booming.

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Speaker 12: It's booming.

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Speaker 20: So as you said, it's our fourth biggest commodity market,

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Speaker 20: so that export commodities tourism is bigger than this, but

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Speaker 20: it is bigger than It's bigger than wine, it's bigger

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Speaker 20: than fruit, it's bigger than seafood. Those are the industries

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Speaker 20: we still think are part of our economic narratives. But

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Speaker 20: actually we've got this other part of the country which

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Speaker 20: is smart, digital, creative, and it's just yeah, it doesn't

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Speaker 20: have a voice, it doesn't have a seat around the

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Speaker 20: cabinet table. We've got Paul Goldsmith, who's a pianist, who's

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Speaker 20: the Ministry of Arts and Culture inheritance, but he's not

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Speaker 20: supporting the industries.

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Speaker 2: If we say, no, three point six billion in exports,

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Speaker 2: so it's good numbers. Is it a sophisticated industry in

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Speaker 2: terms of it has its act together and there's a

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Speaker 2: feed through program and kids are aware of it, and

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Speaker 2: it's got a pipeline and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 20: Well, I think this is one of the problems that

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Speaker 20: we've highlighted in our reports that we released yesterday. We've

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Speaker 20: got a pipeline going through, but it's broken in many places,

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Speaker 20: and there's a lot of investment going into education and

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Speaker 20: creative qualifications, but the industries themselves don't need the form

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Speaker 20: of qualification that's currently being invested in by the taxpayer.

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Speaker 20: So we've we've got ninety thousand people working creative jobs

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Speaker 20: and about one hundred and ten thousand people with creative

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Speaker 20: qualifications working outside creative industries. Now that's good for those

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Speaker 20: other industries because you know, it's good to have creativity.

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Speaker 20: But only fourteen percent of the people in creative industry

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Speaker 20: jobs have qualifications. So there's something going wrong in the

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Speaker 20: system that doesn't enable people to get qualified to get

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Speaker 20: jobs in those industries.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's no good. We'll need to follow this up. Clai,

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Speaker 2: appreciate your time for now. She's the CEO of the

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Speaker 2: Workforce Development Council Wison and it's already seven twenty one.

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Speaker 2: the Asano skincare, all up to half price. Perfect time

866
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Speaker 2: too to stock up on those vitamins and cosmetics and

867
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Speaker 2: to make most of the incredible Chemist Warehouse spring Frenzy megasale.

868
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Speaker 2: You can shop and store. You can do it online,

869
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Speaker 2: click and collect if you want to save time, use

870
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Speaker 2: that fast delivery service to get the essentials dropped straight

871
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Speaker 2: to you door. Tea's and seas apply. But you got

872
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Speaker 2: to hurry because it all ends one October. So hidden

873
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Speaker 2: store or online to Chemist Warehouse and stop paying too

874
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: much Foski seven twenty four. Already now, if it's any

875
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: help to those to Nicola Willis's office. There is a

876
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: decent piece of ready yesterday about whether Israel was heading

877
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: towards a South Africa moment. A further in an interview

878
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: this week, Netnyah, who seems to accept that some sort

879
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: of isolation was the price's country was and is paying

880
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 2: for as a result of this particular war, but none

881
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: of that. None of that has been brought about by

882
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: people chaining themselves to door handles, nor would the cause

883
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: have been advanced in any way, shape or form by

884
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: a nicola taking communion with them, nor indeed by the

885
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: march that wandered through parts of Auckland over the weekend.

886
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 2: What has led the war to this point is several foults. Firstly,

887
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 2: Hamas started. This is an indisputable fact. The raid of

888
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: two years ago was entirely on them. What happened next

889
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: has happened numerous times in one form or another. Hamas

890
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: starts at Israel respond that responded the way they have

891
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: this time once again for a couple of reasons. One

892
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: it was particularly brazen attack, and two America has a

893
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 2: president that doesn't mind the sort of retaliation that's taken place.

894
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: Never before have we seen drawings of a new Middle

895
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: East with millions of gardens living in a trump lightful

896
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: Iridian utopia. Now it is fair to suggest events of

897
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: the last few days, i e. The attack and guitar

898
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: has pushed the Americans to the limit of not beyond.

899
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: But you will note that Rubio is currently in the

900
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: Middle East and still shaking hands with Net and Yahoo

901
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 2: and still happy to be seen in the photo. Meantime,

902
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: back here, nuns are chained, door handles, people away, flags,

903
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: and the angst and the media over whether we will

904
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 2: recognize Palestine next month in New York is palpable. But

905
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: to reiterate, at no point do any of our actions

906
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: make a jot of difference, And once this particular chapter

907
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: is over, in whatever form that takes, we will go

908
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 2: back to a relative stable period of coexistence until someone

909
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: does something stupid all over again, which of course they will.

910
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: This story has been told many, many, many, many many

911
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: times over. When hate drives the narrative, nothing ever really changes.

912
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: Asking nurses late twenty twenty four, Friend and Dunedin told

913
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Speaker 2: us they normally employ approximately fifteen fifty newly trained nurses annually,

914
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 2: but a KAPA twenty five has been applied. Why are

915
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: these young folks being trained? They're not given a job

916
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 2: when the country is short of nurses. It's quite simple.

917
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: It's no money. They haven't got money. Why they don't

918
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: come out and just say, look, we've got no money

919
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: and that solve their problem. The other thing, it's an

920
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 2: interesting point you make. It's the psychology of work. Traditionally

921
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: nurses into training with the view to getting a job.

922
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: In other words, if you train, you will get work,

923
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: which is true, it's just a more global equation these

924
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: days than it is a local one. So in other words,

925
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Speaker 2: if you train locallynails and nurse, you may or may

926
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Speaker 2: not get a job, but you will get one internationally.

927
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: So it's just that mindset that if I train, do

928
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: I automatically get work doesn't apply to many jobs in life.

929
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: A lot of people go to university or to training,

930
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Speaker 2: or to tech or whatever with no guarantee of work.

931
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Speaker 2: And so this idea that if I'm a nurse, I

932
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Speaker 2: therefore deserve to be instantly employed probably needed to change anyway.

933
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Speaker 2: But in a country that literally has no money, you

934
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Speaker 2: can't just keep employing people for the sake of employing.

935
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Speaker 2: We spend inordinate amounts of money in this country. Thirty

936
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Speaker 2: billion dollars we spend on health in this country. How

937
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: much more do you want? And there is a very

938
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Speaker 2: good and I think one of the best points lux

939
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Speaker 2: is made in this time is this country, is that

940
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Speaker 2: it's not the money the amount, it's how it's spent.

941
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Speaker 2: You cannot tell me we spend the amount of money

942
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Speaker 2: we do on health and yet somehow magically we still

943
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Speaker 2: need more aviation. James Meagher, head Pilot, had a look

944
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Speaker 2: at this yesterday. Is with us shortly, Zarnie.

945
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Speaker 1: It's your source of freaking news, challenging opinion and honors facts.

946
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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with Rainthrover, leading by example news,

947
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Speaker 1: togs dead be with the new.

948
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Speaker 2: Black Caps coach Rob Walter side to name the Chapel Headley.

949
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Speaker 2: Thing's gone TE twenty because no one's interested in one

950
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: day cricket anymore. It's you see a pattern here, no

951
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: one's interested in test cricket, so they go to one day.

952
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: No one's interested in one day, so to go to

953
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Speaker 2: T twenty. What do we do when no one's interested

954
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: in T twenty anyway, that's shortly twenty three minutes away

955
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: from aviation thirty million for originally Allies told you about

956
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: that the other day. Of course, now we've got the

957
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Speaker 2: Big Aviation Action Plan twenty five areas to grow in

958
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: future proof the sector, reducing certification waiting times, expanding drone use,

959
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: boost in regional airlines, making wide a use of a

960
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: hockey at airbase. James Mega is the Associate Minister of Transportant.

961
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Speaker 2: This is back with this James Morning, Morning Mike. Is

962
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 2: this a fix, a revolution or a bit of a prod.

963
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 19: I think it's somewhere in between the three. If that's

964
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 19: a thing, it'll fix some issues, but it also a

965
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 19: little bit future looking about advanced aviation. How do we

966
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 19: get better use out of drones. How do we make

967
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 19: use of our brilliant innovators to make sure we grow

968
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Speaker 19: and have a really successful aviation sector. So it's a

969
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Speaker 19: little mix of the three.

970
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 2: You were concerned about all you've been told to be

971
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: concerned about the rising cost of doing business in New Zealand.

972
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: Does this change any of that.

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Speaker 19: There is a section in there around actions that the

974
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 19: government and industry can take to look at costs and all,

975
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 19: of course all those costs get passed on through the

976
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Speaker 19: airlines through to customers, so there's a costs piece in there.

977
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 19: There's a review of CAAA, how it's funded, and there's

978
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 19: also a review of airways levies too, So there is

979
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Speaker 19: a part in there when you look at the certification rules.

980
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 19: If we can make things certified more quickly, that's going

981
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Speaker 19: to reduce costs on operators and eventually that will flow

982
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Speaker 19: through the consumers as well.

983
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: Okay, the workforce and retention of pilots, will things change materially.

984
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: What's the whold up with pilots that people don't want

985
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: to be a pilot? Is it too expensive? Is what's

986
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: going on again?

987
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: It's a mix of both.

988
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 19: It is quite expensive to be a pilots about a

989
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 19: hundred thousand dollars to train. It takes slightly longer to

990
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 19: train here in New Zealand and say some of our

991
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 19: comparable jurisdictions overseas. So we're going to look at how

992
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 19: do they train their pilots. Is there anything we can

993
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 19: do to change our qualification framework to make it easier

994
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 19: and faster to train maintaining safety. That means those pilots

995
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 19: can get out in the workforce, pay off your loan

996
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 19: more quickly, and have the opportunity to work.

997
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 18: So that's part of it.

998
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 19: There's also engineers other service delivery aspects as well.

999
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: Is there a loan cap somebody told me this morning

1000
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 2: there's a loan cap on training to be a pilot.

1001
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 2: Is that true?

1002
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 11: Yeah, there is.

1003
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Speaker 19: It was put in place I think over a decade ago,

1004
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 19: and it reflected the fact that there was a large

1005
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 19: cost furden on barring to the commercial pilot, and there

1006
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 19: are statistics that showed that it took quite a while

1007
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 19: for those loans to be paid back. Hasn't changed in

1008
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Speaker 19: a few years, and the industry has called for that

1009
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 19: to be looked at, and that is part of the

1010
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 19: action plan.

1011
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: But are we looking or are we doing or realistically.

1012
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 19: That as a financial cost and there's always trade offs

1013
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 19: when you've got those financial costs. If we can amend

1014
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 19: the way that the training is delivered and train more

1015
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 19: pilots here and think those training pilots into the workforce,

1016
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 19: they can pay down their loans more quickly.

1017
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: It's in the mix.

1018
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 19: It's probably not the solution to the overall problem though.

1019
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: Okay, oh, harky, what's that about being open for business

1020
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: twenty four seven? Was that not available to us anyway?

1021
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: I mean, what's it doing? When do they close it

1022
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: like five o'clock or something.

1023
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 19: Well, it's primarily a defense for space, but every airline

1024
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 19: that comes into the country has to have a backup

1025
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 19: or a sort of an alternative runway. In case say Auckland,

1026
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 19: the airport is close. Now, the wide body aircraft such

1027
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 19: as like the likes of Qatar Airways would like to

1028
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 19: use O'haky as a backup because it's not available twenty

1029
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 19: four seven, and because a lot of their flights come

1030
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 19: in so early hours of the morning, they couldn't use that.

1031
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 19: Therefore they had to go down to christ Church, which

1032
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 19: meant they had to.

1033
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: Reduce the size of their planes hopeless.

1034
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 19: Yeah, and so we're looking at what can we do

1035
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 19: to convert O'hakia to be available twenty four to seven.

1036
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 19: That's really around air traffic control and accessibility to foreign

1037
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 19: emergency services. It's a big opportunity because if we can

1038
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 19: get more big white body planes in here, then we

1039
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Speaker 19: can boost our tourism and gra our economy.

1040
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: In New Zealand. Will assess what it's needed or what

1041
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: is needed for a fleet expansion, jet fuel demand and

1042
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: electricity for next generation aircraft? Why is that included and

1043
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: here given that they'd already do this anyway, wouldn't.

1044
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 19: They Well, were part of the Aviation Council, and I

1045
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 19: think they wanted to emphasize the fact that they are

1046
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 19: doing this work and they will continue to do this work.

1047
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 19: It's one of their big challenges is how do they

1048
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 19: get more planes, more parts and how do they make

1049
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 19: sure that they've got a fleet that is fit for

1050
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 19: future travel and that includes I guess electric aircraft at

1051
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 19: some point. So it really was just a reinforce what

1052
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 19: he engineer going to do.

1053
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 2: Crab, do you honestly believe James is going to be electric?

1054
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 2: I mean, short of a four person plane that can

1055
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: fly from Auckland to Corrimandul, maybe no one's flying to

1056
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: London on an electric plane.

1057
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 19: Yeah, so I mean in nineteen oh three when Richard

1058
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 19: Pierce first flew down into Murger, I think no one

1059
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 19: really thought that the planet are up in.

1060
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: There in the first place. So look, time will tell, and.

1061
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 19: If it only ends up being that it's something that

1062
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 19: we ship freight on, or if that it's uncrudey aircraft,

1063
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 19: and so be it. But it's worth looking into. And

1064
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 19: they are trialing a few flights across the cook Straight

1065
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 19: at the moment for freight purposes, so it's something that's

1066
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 19: in the mixt But I think realistically the future of

1067
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 19: aviation over the next couple of decades is going to

1068
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 19: be better, faster, quieter and more sustainable aircraft.

1069
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Speaker 12: So that's probably Jipfield.

1070
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Speaker 2: All right, mate, nice to talk to you appreciate it

1071
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 2: very much, James Meger. I like the cut of his gyven.

1072
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Speaker 2: It's not just because he's from Canterbury, Associate Minister of Transport.

1073
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't necessarily agree with this, and I

1074
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Speaker 2: don't know that anything's necessarily going to come of it.

1075
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Speaker 2: I hope it is, but he seems to be on

1076
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Speaker 2: top of his portfolio. It did remind me of the

1077
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Speaker 2: story very sof but got angry with me. He was

1078
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Speaker 2: many years ago. He was shipped off with Air New

1079
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Speaker 2: Zealand to Hawaii because of a looking at nut oil.

1080
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Speaker 2: I remember the famous nut oil story. And Near New

1081
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: Zealand is going to start flying planes on the nut oil,

1082
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: and so they needed to fly Barrier along with the

1083
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 2: whole cacophony of other journalists, to go look at some plantation,

1084
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: a few palm trees and write some stories about the nuttile.

1085
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Speaker 2: Where's the nut oil? Hey, where's the nut oil? Right here?

1086
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: Was that teen years ago? Fifteen years ago I said,

1087
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: a berries on a junket, and he goes, it's not

1088
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: a junket. There's absolutely not a junket. Where's the nut oil?

1089
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Speaker 2: He ain't, no, and flying on nut oil seventeen to eight.

1090
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Speaker 1: The Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Did I tell you or did I tell you? I've

1093
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: been telling you for the last couple of weeks. This this,

1094
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 2: this polling thing, it adds up to nothing. As long

1095
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 2: as the Murray Party aren't going to be part of

1096
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: the government. Of the Murray Party, you're not going to

1097
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 2: be part of the government under labor. And even Chris

1098
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: Hopkins worked that one out yesterday when angry John John

1099
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 2: Tammaherry joined the Fairest Party and said, basically, he's right.

1100
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Speaker 2: These people don't want to bet. They're not cooperative, they're

1101
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: not interested. Asked Shannon Helbert. He had some interesting things

1102
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: to say yesterday about the Murray Party. We'll talk to

1103
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: Ginny about that later on. But the problem is they

1104
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: don't want to be part of government. And the only

1105
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: way they would ever be part of government is the

1106
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: most outrageous requests and demands, and they're never going to

1107
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 2: be met. So suddenly the polling is not what it

1108
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 2: is because the polling companies, of course add these things together.

1109
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: There go center left, center right as a block. There

1110
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: is a center right block, and that's called the government.

1111
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: There isn't a center left block. We've never had a

1112
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: center left block like this, never, and we're not going

1113
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: to have one. But here's the problem for the government.

1114
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 2: This polling of this was interesting polling yesterday, and to

1115
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: say it surprised me is probably overstating the case. But

1116
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 2: I went, hmmm, so who do you blame for the

1117
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: state of play?

1118
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 21: Now?

1119
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: People who listen to this program, unquestionably would come up

1120
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: with a number. I reckon it be eighty twenty. They

1121
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: blamed the previous government, and they blamed the previous government

1122
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: for an economic state, because it's a fact they buggered

1123
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: the place, Adrian or Chris Hopkins, Jasindra Adern, Grant Robertson,

1124
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 2: they stuffed the place and we're still paying the price

1125
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 2: for that. So that would be the score of the

1126
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: audience of this program. But if you do it around

1127
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 2: the rest of the country, thirty seven percent blame the

1128
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: current government and thirty one percent blame the previous government.

1129
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: Now argue that all you want and go, well, what

1130
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: are they thick? Yes, clearly thick as a post. But

1131
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 2: there's still voters, and every vote, no matter how thick,

1132
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 2: gets a vote. Twenty four percent blame both equally. I

1133
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 2: could go down the twenty four percent route myself to

1134
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 2: the extent that you know my rule, my rules. You

1135
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: get one term, do whatever you want, so whatever you want,

1136
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: but that's it. After that you no longer blame the

1137
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,720
Speaker 2: previous administration. So these guys have got about eighteen about

1138
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: twelve months left until we go to the election, and

1139
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 2: they've got to be able to go we did this,

1140
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: this and this, here's the fruit, here's the fruition. Here

1141
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: are the good times rolling re elect us. So I

1142
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: could go down, but they haven't been as good as

1143
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: they could have been. They haven't been as effective as

1144
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: they could have been, haven't been as balls to the

1145
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: wall as they could have been. So I could be

1146
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: in that twenty four percent and say, you know what

1147
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 2: a little bit of it. We're not as far ahead

1148
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 2: as we should be because these guys didn't go at

1149
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 2: it as hard as they could. So I could be

1150
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,479
Speaker 2: in that twenty four percent. But there is no question

1151
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 2: in my mind that the bulk of the trouble in

1152
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: this country is directly at the feet of the dune

1153
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 2: Robertson Hipkins et al. And But you can't argue with

1154
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 2: those numbers. If this is where this government's in trouble,

1155
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: if genuinely a large portion of people go to the

1156
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: election next year and go it is this lot's fault

1157
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: and they had three years and they didn't fix it.

1158
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 2: Therefore they didn't know what they were doing. They lose.

1159
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: You won't be able to get a grab a seat

1160
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 2: from me in New Zealand to Australia eleven away.

1161
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 1: From the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate news dogs.

1162
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: They'd be by the away from make cricket seasons Here

1163
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 2: Australia arrive in a couple of weeks for the Chapel Hadley,

1164
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 2: both sides naming the squads and the series marks twenty

1165
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 2: years since the first ever T twenty international between the two.

1166
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: Can you believe it's twenty years? Anyway? Rob Walter's the

1167
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 2: black Caps coach and he's with us. Rob morning, What

1168
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: do you, Mike? How are you very well? Indeed, how's

1169
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: the job so far?

1170
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 22: It's been saying to he as been awesome? So are

1171
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 22: very short in the you know, in the trip, but

1172
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 22: it's it's been great so far.

1173
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 11: Thank you?

1174
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: Is it everything you thought it would be thus far?

1175
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1176
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 22: I guess obviously being fortunate to have you been in

1177
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 22: the system for a fair bit beforehand, you've got to

1178
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 22: have a sense of how everything operates. But great to

1179
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 22: have the feet in the shoes now and really be

1180
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 22: part of it.

1181
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 2: What do you make of this Chapel Haadley T twenty thing?

1182
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: Is this just the sign of the times?

1183
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 19: That is what it is?

1184
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean obviously you got back twenty years. You

1185
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 22: know the first one is a bit of an exhibition

1186
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 22: really and you look, our father game has come now.

1187
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 22: So look, any competition between Australia and New Zealand is massive,

1188
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 22: So the Chapel Hadley, I knows is important to the

1189
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 22: guys irrespective of the format.

1190
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: Now, we haven't won the Chapel Hadley since twenty sixteen,

1191
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: so if we lose it again, do we call for

1192
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: your sacking?

1193
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 22: Rob's that's the way the world works. It could be

1194
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 22: the case, but look, hoping for a different result and

1195
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 22: you know, suddenly get our names on that troops will

1196
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 22: be important.

1197
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 2: See how does it affect your selections? By the way,

1198
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: and the T twenty thing, do you do you have

1199
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: a different mind and sit now for the Chapel Headley

1200
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: than you might have done at one stage.

1201
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 22: No, obviously that you know this is all part of

1202
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 22: the build up to the T twenty World Cup next

1203
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 22: year as well, so missing a couple of players for

1204
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 22: various reasons, but you know, all of it is you're

1205
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 22: scared towards that. But in the same breath, you know,

1206
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 22: ultra competitive series and always competitive against Australia. So we're

1207
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 22: sort of taking one series on game at a time,

1208
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 22: but with an eye on what's happening in the future

1209
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 22: next year.

1210
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 2: Do you like tea Twitter? I still see it as

1211
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: an element of crap. Shoot, you know, so weird things

1212
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 2: can happen on weird days.

1213
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 22: Look, it certainly is unpredictable, that's for sure, and brings

1214
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 22: teams together. But the game is advanced massively and you know,

1215
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 22: the stats and the work behind the scenes to play

1216
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 22: the game, well, this has grown massively and the skill

1217
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 22: sets of the players as you see it has gone huge.

1218
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 22: So you know, we had our first three hundred score

1219
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 22: and tail one teams just the other day safety against England.

1220
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 22: So the game is moving quickly and we sort of

1221
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 22: have to move with it and our skills with it.

1222
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 2: Yet, well, kids come through, who do you reckon in

1223
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 2: future years that will have played nothing but T twenty

1224
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: that will be their entire existence in the sport.

1225
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: It is possible.

1226
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 22: I hope it doesn't doesn't turn out to be the case,

1227
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 22: and it's still the purist of the game, so I

1228
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 22: still believe all three formats of the place, So I

1229
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 22: hope that stays the same.

1230
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: The Bay OVAL's beautiful, though, wasn't it.

1231
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 22: That's a nice place, wonderful, wonderful cricket ground, great place

1232
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 22: to play cricket and obviously the support for the game

1233
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 22: there is.

1234
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: Good and will be in the school holidays.

1235
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 22: We're looking for a great look forward to a great turner.

1236
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: Have we got that about right? In this country? We

1237
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 2: tend to fab you know. You look at the christ

1238
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 2: Church Field, you look at the Bay Oval, Queenstown Central.

1239
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's certain places where cricket looks good,

1240
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: the crowd looks good, it's the right size, it just

1241
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 2: sort of vibes nicely.

1242
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1243
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 22: I think New Zealand has got some of the most

1244
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 22: spectacular cricket grounds and wonderful traditional cricket grounds as well,

1245
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 22: you know, so that cases for for a smaller ground

1246
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 22: given our population, you know, so you can get really

1247
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 22: close to the action and really feel part of it,

1248
00:56:58,920 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 22: which is awesome.

1249
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: You're nervous by the way you and first all that stuff.

1250
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 22: Nah, certainly not. No, There'll be times along the way

1251
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 22: that I will be, but it's just a joy.

1252
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, good on you go well. Rob Walter, the black

1253
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: Caps coach T twenty at the Yeah, I'm not sold

1254
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: on T twenty to be frank, five minutes away from eight.

1255
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: I like a game of skill, you know, one day.

1256
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: One day struck me as just just about right. You know,

1257
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: five days. Who's got time for five days? That's just crazy.

1258
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: I mean, as a snooker fan, I fully understand that

1259
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 2: people look at Snooper and going, oh my god, how

1260
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: tedious is this? And I fully get that. So you've

1261
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 2: got to be in the weeds. So that's that's test

1262
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: cricket for you. But the one day struck me is

1263
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 2: there's enough there for the genuine skill to come through

1264
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: T twenty. It's like I could play T twenty and

1265
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 2: you know I'd be brilliant, then I'd be useless. Zuckerberg

1266
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 2: yesterday said people without smart glasses may one day be

1267
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 2: at a significant cognitive disadvantage. You reckon. That's true. I

1268
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: think he's an idiot. But he's relaunching the glasses. That happened.

1269
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 2: None of the glasses have really worked, so he's relaunched

1270
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: some more glasses. So now he's making you feel bad

1271
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: about yourself. That's his latest marketing campaign. Like you if

1272
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 2: you haven't got these glasses, Yeah, you look a bit

1273
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 2: thick on my word, look at that guy without the glasses.

1274
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 22: And if we don't have broccoli here, like him as well?

1275
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, because I'm looking at a photo of him

1276
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 2: and he looks incredible in a set of smart glasses.

1277
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: No one rocks a set of smart glass better than

1278
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 2: Mark Sucker. Big Politics Wednesday, and a couple of moments

1279
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,200
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1280
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1281
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:43,560
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1284
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1285
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1286
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1287
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Speaker 2: long gest stating cinematic sequel. This is Spinal Tap two.

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Speaker 2: The End continues. The album is called The End Continues.

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Speaker 2: It is not up to the level of the original

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Speaker 2: film's LP soundtrack or indeed nineteen ninety two's underappreciated album

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Speaker 2: Break Line, Break Like the Wind. But nevertheless, there are

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Speaker 2: thirteen of these tracks and they total thirty seven minutes

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Speaker 2: and twenty nine seconds of Spinal Tap. A man as

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Speaker 2: past a Politics Wednesday, Jinny Anderson's will Us and Mark

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Speaker 2: Mitchell both good morning to you.

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Speaker 13: Good morning Mike, Good morning Ginny.

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Speaker 6: Mike.

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Speaker 24: Can I oset Government House yesterday for an amazing investiture ceremony.

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Speaker 24: We get to acknowledge an incredible key. We was doing

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Speaker 24: incredible things you are in your day. No, we no,

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Speaker 24: we didn't get to the lawn yesterday, but we had,

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Speaker 24: but was there for a really good friend of ours,

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Speaker 24: our newest name, Dame Julie Chapman and her husband Kane.

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Speaker 24: They have twelve cats, two dogs, goats, a cow that

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Speaker 24: I referred to as Hamburger, and a sparrow. She has

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Speaker 24: got and of course, she's the founder of Kids Can

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Speaker 24: and Pitt Refuge. I won't go into the heartbreaking cases

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Speaker 24: that Pitt Refuge have to deal with almost on a

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Speaker 24: daily basis, but a huge shout out to her and

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Speaker 24: all our other recipients.

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Speaker 2: Did he take all her animals to government House or

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Speaker 2: was that not part of the ind No, it would have.

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Speaker 13: Been female do little turning up to a government house

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Speaker 13: good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad, I'm glad you had a I take it.

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Speaker 2: This was an Auckland as opposed to Wellington and Wellington.

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Speaker 13: Oppost so this was Wellington year.

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Speaker 2: I think of the two government houses, how many government

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Speaker 2: houses have you been to Ginny?

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Speaker 21: Just the main one in Wellington?

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Speaker 2: You haven't been to the Auckland one. Very nice, but

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Speaker 2: it's not as nice.

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Speaker 6: Mark.

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Speaker 2: Have you been to the Auckland one? Yeah?

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Speaker 24: I was at the Auckland one last week for a

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Speaker 24: new program that's been launched by Active to get to

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Speaker 24: young kids that don't have access to sport and rick

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Speaker 24: and then I was there about a month before that

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Speaker 24: with Dame Cindi Kiro, who helped me get a Peace

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Speaker 24: and Harmony Agreement accord signed between our Jewish and wis

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Speaker 24: and leaders to say that we can agree to disagree,

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Speaker 24: but we're going to do that in a peaceful, intolerant way.

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Speaker 2: Would you say the Wellington one's better, I would say

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Speaker 2: the Wellington one's better.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, the Wellington one is much bigger. It's a lot

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Speaker 24: bigger than the Auckland one. Beautiful, but you know they're

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Speaker 24: both beautifully kept in it and it does act.

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Speaker 13: It does add to that. You know, you feel like

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Speaker 13: you're there for a special occasion.

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Speaker 2: I was almost I almost bought a house next door

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Speaker 2: to Government House in Auckland and my rationale for that

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Speaker 2: was it would never get built out, and I thought

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Speaker 2: I'd sort of regret that now because I mean it

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Speaker 2: could be high rises under the new Unitary Plan, couldn't it.

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Speaker 2: But going in government how you'd have to think would

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Speaker 2: be there forever.

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Speaker 24: I think, well, yeah, I don't think we need to

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Speaker 24: keep both government houses. I mean they've they get used

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Speaker 24: a lot, and like I said, having those when you

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Speaker 24: go to an vistas Ceramide like I did yesterday, a lot.

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Speaker 24: Every single one of those persons people receiving their award,

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Speaker 24: they don't ask for it, but it's nice for us

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Speaker 24: as a country to be able to have a formal

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Speaker 24: way of being able to recognize them and the work

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Speaker 24: they've done for us as a country.

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Speaker 2: Ginny, has anyone ever chained themselves to your office?

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Speaker 21: Chris Breshop took a media crew out front and I

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Speaker 21: chased him down the street and that made TV. That

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Speaker 21: was quite exciting.

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Speaker 2: Did you did you look good when you ran?

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Speaker 16: No?

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Speaker 25: He ran.

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Speaker 21: I just kind of stood next to him and said

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Speaker 21: do you want to be in a photo with me?

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Speaker 21: And he said no, only ran away and they got

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Speaker 21: turned into a meme on Twitter that was that was

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Speaker 21: quite quite good. I think it's still doing the rounds.

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Speaker 21: But he didn't change himself when he was doing a

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Speaker 21: story outside my office.

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Speaker 24: Well, in all fairness, there's probably a few people that

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Speaker 24: would run away from having a photo with the Gindy

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Speaker 24: Z can't be too tough.

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Speaker 2: That's rather made.

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Speaker 21: This's not very gentlemanly of you at all.

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Speaker 2: There's something that happens to you, guys, in terms of

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Speaker 2: like the billboard, the Act billboard that was shot up

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. There's something sort of people go feral

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Speaker 2: once you become a public figure, you know, and you're

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Speaker 2: publicly accountable, don't they I mean, you know, chaining yourself

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Speaker 2: and gluing yourself and shooting up billboards. There's something weird

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Speaker 2: about this country at the moment, don't you think?

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Speaker 21: You and I think things are becoming more extreme, that

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Speaker 21: something's changed. You know, you do see these things happening,

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Speaker 21: not just in New Zealand but overseas as well, that

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Speaker 21: people's reactions are becoming more extreme. I think that is

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Speaker 21: a real concern for democracy because it puts it risk

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Speaker 21: that ability to connect with politicians and talk to them,

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Speaker 21: and that's what we should be able to do.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 13: I just think that I've always stood by this.

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Speaker 24: There's one lesson I've taken through life is at the

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Speaker 24: minute you stop talking and communicating, then it's going to

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Speaker 24: end up one place, and that is violence.

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Speaker 13: And that's boy.

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Speaker 24: It's so critically important that in our country were able

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Speaker 24: to protect the rightful the right to peaceful protest and

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Speaker 24: the freedom of speech because we just got to keep talking.

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Speaker 2: Let me come back to that in just a couple

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Speaker 2: of months, because I've got a question about the bridge

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Speaker 2: for the police and New Mark. But Shannon Helbert, Jenny,

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Speaker 2: do you agree with Shannon Helbert the murray party are

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Speaker 2: starting to create an exclusive bunch of Maury. Is that true?

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Speaker 12: Is that fair?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 21: I think it was in relation to to wiki or

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Speaker 21: tell Maori, and I think it was in relation to

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Speaker 21: the fact they were only giving media interviews interell Maori.

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Speaker 21: And I feel like Shannon's point that to wicked or

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Speaker 21: TiAl Maori should be for everybody to court it all

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Speaker 21: intereal Maori, no matter how much Malori language you can say.

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Speaker 21: So I support in the sense that if you can

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Speaker 21: speak a bit, you can speak a lot, it should

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Speaker 21: be for everyone to speak.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what are you going to do about Tamaheri

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Speaker 2: and Ferris?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: I mean, this whole thing's turned feral, isn't it. I

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Speaker 2: mean I told you, I mean you're never going to

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Speaker 2: be able to deal with these clowns.

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Speaker 21: Well, I stand by what we've said in the past

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Speaker 21: that that there is no a place for comments like that,

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Speaker 21: that we do not agree with them at all. And

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Speaker 21: it just seems a bit more confused because you've had

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Speaker 21: You've had the leadership come out saying they can dem

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Speaker 21: Tuckety's comments, and now it seems to be a different position.

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Speaker 21: But our position hasn't changed. It's the fact that those

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Speaker 21: comments have no place in New Zealand. We don't agree

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Speaker 21: with them. We think that it's a place for everybody

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Speaker 21: and you should be able to campaign no matter what

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Speaker 21: color your skin or ethnicity.

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Speaker 2: Got to take a brief break more in a moment,

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell, Jinny Anderson thirteen Past the Mike.

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Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast Full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be U Talks. It'll be seventeen past Day Politics Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: Jenny Anderson, Mark Mitchell. Trump's literally just arrived by the

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Speaker 2: way in the UK and they just rolled the steps

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Speaker 2: up to Air Force one. Mark real quick. On the

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Speaker 2: bridge the protest over the weekend, We're being told the

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Speaker 2: police called it. In other words, they called the closing

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Speaker 2: down of the bridge. End ZTA apparently didn't. I don't

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Speaker 2: know whether it's true or not, but here's my simple question.

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Speaker 2: Who calls that a bridge gets closed or not? Who

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Speaker 2: literally does that?

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Speaker 13: Do you know well that the NJDA have the powers

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Speaker 13: to do that?

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Speaker 24: From what I understand, they didn't have the requests from

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Speaker 24: the organizers, had not been protest and not been processed

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Speaker 24: in time. My own personal view of this is that

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Speaker 24: Harvard bridges should not be getting closed. There are plenty

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Speaker 24: of places to go and have a peaceful protest. We

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Speaker 24: are not going to interrupt members of the public there

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Speaker 24: and cause inconvenience and members of the public that are

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Speaker 24: trying to go about their daily business crossing the Harbor Bridge,

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Speaker 24: and my view is dangerous. You could end up with sittings.

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Speaker 24: It's not a controllable situation. You're a long way above

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Speaker 24: the water. If someone goes over the edge, they die,

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Speaker 24: and so you know, I'm dead set against having the

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Speaker 24: Harborbridge closed at all.

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Speaker 13: Just really quickly, Mike, you just allow me.

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Speaker 24: As Minister for Ethic Communities, I completely totally condemn what

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Speaker 24: the comments coming out of to Party Mary Party. I

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Speaker 24: don't think they're all joined up on that messching. But

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Speaker 24: we live in one of the strongest open democracies in

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Speaker 24: the world and anyone regardless of when you arrived in

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Speaker 24: New Zealand, what your faith is, what your ethnicity is,

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Speaker 24: you have got the right to be able to join

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Speaker 24: and apply to join your political party and get out

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Speaker 24: there and campaign and also use your right to vote,

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Speaker 24: depending on you know, whether it's a general election, a

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Speaker 24: local election or you know, a Mary seats election, and

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Speaker 24: I just think that the messaging is awful and Labor

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Speaker 24: Party can come out condemn them, but ultimately they should

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Speaker 24: be saying we will not go into government, we will

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Speaker 24: not work with a party that holds views like this.

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Speaker 2: See and that's your problem, isn't Jinny? I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: you try and distance yourself, but at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, you're gonna this is going to be your

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Speaker 2: headache next year, isn't it.

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Speaker 21: Well, there's there's still a lot to happen before that

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Speaker 21: point in time, but it's been pretty clear from us

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Speaker 21: and from our leadership that we are we're not prepared

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Speaker 21: to work with those points of view. So so that

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Speaker 21: is that is something that will have to be addressed

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Speaker 21: at some point. But it does seem that they are

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Speaker 21: a little bit confused in terms of the messaging.

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Speaker 13: So you've clearly discounted them. Then as a future coalition.

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Speaker 20: Partner, Well have you Mark?

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Speaker 21: Would you like to do that as well?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely run a mile from decision.

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Speaker 13: Will you discover them? You discover them?

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm sorry, and.

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Speaker 13: This and this and this is the and this is

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Speaker 13: the problem. This is the problem that you've got.

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Speaker 6: Is that?

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Speaker 16: Is it?

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Speaker 24: Number one, and National actually has got a history of

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Speaker 24: working very well with to party Mary. We did a

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Speaker 24: lot with them when Tory, Anaturia and t Flavel were leaders.

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Speaker 24: And but you know, you've now got a party Mary

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Speaker 24: Party that are coming out and attacking our ethnic communities,

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Speaker 24: and you've got a Labor party that say, oh, well,

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Speaker 24: maybe we need to keep our options over.

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Speaker 13: We might still go into government with them.

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Speaker 21: We similarly, National have got a significant problem with climate

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Speaker 21: change in the Paris Agreement with act A, National saying

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Speaker 21: quite different things that have a huge impact on our

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Speaker 21: trade and our farmers and their ability to export. How

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Speaker 21: National are going to work with act when they have

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Speaker 21: completely opposing points of view on them?

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Speaker 2: The problem is the problem is that that we know that.

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Speaker 2: So I mean they've got those three together. They some

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Speaker 2: tensions periodically. That's a coalition, we understand it. It's got

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Speaker 2: a working model. What we don't have as a working

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Speaker 2: model of the left. And the more weird the Mari

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Speaker 2: Party get, the more difficult it is for people to

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Speaker 2: see a working model of the left. I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: the problem for you, isn't it.

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Speaker 21: Well, I think as we get closer to the election,

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01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,600
Speaker 21: there's a very strong like clihood, you'll see either New

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Speaker 21: Zealand First or or the Act Party in a similar position.

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Speaker 21: Is we get closer, we know they kick off and

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01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 21: you could see a very similar situation with right, just

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Speaker 21: real quick.

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Speaker 24: That's that's that's our democracy and parties will get to

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Speaker 24: run on in campaign on what their policies are. But

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Speaker 24: the one thing I would say, we've proven to be

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Speaker 24: a very stable government where we can agree to disagree,

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Speaker 24: but we can advance the country's interesting.

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Speaker 21: And very would strongly disagree with that. I think New

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Speaker 21: Zealanders would strongly disagree with the more. In fact, you've

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01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 21: got too small well you talk about let me you've

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Speaker 21: got too smaller parties.

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Speaker 13: You only ever condemn a party that's out there taking

1536
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Speaker 13: now if.

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Speaker 21: I'd like to finish, if I'd like to finish, please

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01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 21: just quick. You've got you've got two smaller parties with

1539
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,799
Speaker 21: Winston Peters and David seymore completely running rings around Christopher.

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Speaker 2: But that's a political perception and you're right. But here's

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Speaker 2: here's the problem. At the end of the day, it's

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Speaker 2: a coalition that will hold for three years. It's worked

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01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 2: reasonably well together. You may not like their politics and

1544
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 2: that's fine, you don't have to. But as a grouping

1545
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 2: they've worked pretty well together. I mean, that's for the

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Speaker 2: voter to see, and we can see that. But what

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01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 2: we don't see is the possibility of the three on

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Speaker 2: the left doing the same thing.

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Speaker 24: Well, you've got the Dreams that want to defund the police,

1550
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Speaker 24: you've got the Greens at want to defund the police,

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Speaker 24: and you've got their other partner who they were, who

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Speaker 24: they weren't rejected, say we won't going to go saying

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Speaker 24: that attacking ethnic communities.

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Speaker 13: How is that good for the country.

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01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 21: We've been very clear, Mark and I have been clear

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Speaker 21: that that is not acceptable, and we've said strongly that.

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Speaker 13: There is you're going to government with them to not acceptable,

1558
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 13: But you're going to government.

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Speaker 21: With them, so you aren't going to go if you're

1560
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 21: making a joke yourself. To be honest, you know that

1561
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Speaker 21: I don't make this. I really want to repeat yourself

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Speaker 21: again and again.

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Speaker 13: Were the ethnic communities do not think this is a joke.

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Speaker 24: They take it very seriously. And at the moment they've

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Speaker 24: got a Labour Party who's very keen to yet there

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01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 24: and condemn the comments, but won't say that they won't

1567
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Speaker 24: go and in government.

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Speaker 21: It's good to hear that you feel that strongly about

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Speaker 21: that much. But let me be very clear. We will

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Speaker 21: lay out exactly who we can and who we can't

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Speaker 21: work quit with ahead of election next year and that

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Speaker 21: will not.

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Speaker 2: Be doing this and that is what it will make

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Speaker 2: it so interesting. Got to go, you guys appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Make Mitchell ginny And it's in eight twenty.

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Speaker 2: I assume that's deliberate. Trump's got some makeup on his

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Speaker 2: hand yet again, so they photographed the makeup, thus making

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Speaker 2: it a story for the fact he was trying to

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Speaker 2: hide the fact he's got bruising on his hands, which

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Speaker 2: was a story, but he changed the story to the

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Speaker 2: makeup story. I don't know why they can't find the

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Speaker 2: makeup that matches the skin. It's not hard. It's not

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Speaker 2: like they don't make lots of different shades of makeup

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Speaker 2: to Australia. Denis Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: Next, the only report you need to start your day

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Speaker 2: Here's a problem with the skimming championships. They've been holding

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01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 2: the World Skimming Championships, the World Stone Skimming Championships. Now,

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Speaker 2: who among us have not done that? In our childhood,

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01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 2: I actually thought I was quite good. I was a

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01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 2: lefty and I still argue to this day that lefties

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01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: have a certain skill around skimming stunts.

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Speaker 22: Anyway, it's a petty that you're, you know, poyssessed by

1621
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 22: the devil.

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01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,600
Speaker 2: That's true. West Coast of Scotland, Easdale's where they hold it.

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven countries, twenty two hundred people, a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two hundred people, twenty seven countries, that's almost Olympic size.

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Speaker 1: What does be your best?

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Speaker 2: How many seven or eight?

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Speaker 22: You reckon?

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Speaker 2: I don't reckon, I know seven eight, But then we

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Speaker 2: get there. That's pretty good. It got to distance. We

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Speaker 2: used to go on holiday to lakes in the South Island,

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Speaker 2: so you would get the flat water and The problem

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Speaker 2: was lake Methicine is something like that. But once you

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Speaker 2: got Lake Ider, I found it. But we went to

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Speaker 2: Lake Ider in winter and there was ice and stone

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Speaker 2: skims for pretty much everyon on the ice.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think that counts.

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01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 2: Didn't stop us anyway. But once you got past six

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01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 2: or seven, the distance of the stones, it became debatable.

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01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 2: And so I'd go ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, and my

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Speaker 2: sister would go, you're lying again, and I go, I

1641
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 2: don't lie, and she goes, yes, you do, and then

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Speaker 2: there be a fight. Where was I?

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Speaker 16: So?

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Speaker 2: At the World Stone Skimming Championships cheating, the offenders have

1645
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: held up their hands and apologized. You choose your own stones.

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Speaker 2: Judges use a measuring device it's called the ring of truth,

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Speaker 2: to ensure that they're no bigger than three inches in diameter.

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Speaker 2: Each Competitors allowed three skims. Stones must bounce and listen

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Speaker 2: to how pathetic these rules are. Stones must bounce at

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Speaker 2: least twice before sinking.

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Speaker 13: So is it just distance that we're going for?

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Speaker 2: No, it's skims, But I mean the rule. I mean

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01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 2: that's I mean to enter you, I would have gone twelve.

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01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 2: It's got to skim twelve times or else you're not entering.

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01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 2: Then you wouldn't have two thousand, two hundred people, would you,

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01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 2: because most people can't do it that right. Anyway, these

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01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 2: people had got their stones and they'd shape them, they'd

1658
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 2: drilled them, they'd reshape them, they'd manipulated.

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01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 23: Go and join the Australian cricket team.

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Speaker 2: A bunch of sheets twenty one away from.

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Speaker 14: Nine International correspondence with endsit Eye Insurance, peace of Mind

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Speaker 14: for New Zealand Business and.

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Speaker 2: Shannah Hanner's back whe It's from the Marty Australia. Dennis,

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Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 25: It's very interesting on the stone skinning. I'm fascinated and

1666
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Speaker 25: that's the sort.

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Speaker 2: Of thing that makes the show number one NUS. You'll

1668
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Speaker 2: be thinking to yourself, how on earth did this show

1669
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Speaker 2: get successful? With There you go now listen, P and G.

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Speaker 2: Last time we talked, was it was brewing?

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Speaker 1: Is it done well?

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Speaker 25: It seems to be that the puck pack the Crocodile

1673
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Speaker 25: treaty agreement. He's turning in a tech peck. The Prime

1674
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Speaker 25: Minister ants in the Albanet is obviously very embarrassed. He

1675
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Speaker 25: went up there talking up this deal with PNG saying

1676
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Speaker 25: we're going to combine our military forces was all about

1677
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 25: trying to fend off China. He was going to be

1678
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Speaker 25: signed today and unfortunately the PNG cabinet a whole lot

1679
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 25: of people skyped off and there's no Susan. But there

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Speaker 25: are now real concerns invoiced by the opposition and single

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Speaker 25: sages in the PNG who are saying, look, this could

1682
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Speaker 25: have real constitutional problems for us. There are real problems

1683
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Speaker 25: about the legal idea of having Australian forces in the

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Speaker 25: INNPNG operating in PG with some immunity from local laws,

1685
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Speaker 25: and there are real concerns about this. I think this

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Speaker 25: has been rushed towards it. Prime Minister Maratha PNG has said,

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Speaker 25: oh yeah, look we'll We're still working on it now.

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Speaker 25: This was announced on the weekend by the Deputy Prime

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Speaker 25: Minister and the Prime Minister of Australia that was going

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Speaker 25: to be signed. It doesn't look like it's going to be.

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Speaker 25: And this is coming only three days after Vanihuatu rejected

1692
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Speaker 25: a five hundred million dollar big from Australia for a

1693
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Speaker 25: security agreement, clearly because of the Chinese influence in Daniawatu.

1694
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Speaker 25: So this is mounting to be a real problem for

1695
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Speaker 25: Anthony alban As in the question is is it actually

1696
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 25: going to be signed and how long.

1697
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Speaker 13: Before it does?

1698
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Speaker 25: And the longer it goes on without being signed, the

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Speaker 25: longer and the more trouble there is in the p

1700
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Speaker 25: in PNG it looks like it could even fall over.

1701
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Speaker 25: So this is a really big problem for Australia in

1702
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Speaker 25: its efforts to try and limit Chinese influence in the pace.

1703
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Speaker 2: What a mess watching early in the early hours of

1704
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Speaker 2: our morning, this business of Trump standing there before he

1705
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Speaker 2: took off the London the head of crack at John Lynes.

1706
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Speaker 2: You know John Lynes. Is he a decent bloke?

1707
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Speaker 25: Yes, Look I've made light for many years. Look he's

1708
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 25: doing a job for four corners on Trump's business affairs.

1709
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 25: He took the opportunity to ask the questions. Trump reacted,

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Speaker 25: you know, and told him how he's going to damage

1711
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Speaker 25: Australian relations. But in that he actually said, oh, you know,

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Speaker 25: I'm meeting your Prime minister. This is the first confirmation

1713
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 25: that indication at all that the meeting is going to

1714
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Speaker 25: take place. The Australian government has been very careful. Antony

1715
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Speaker 25: Albinet's office been very careful not to say there will

1716
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Speaker 25: be a meeting, because I think, as I said on Monday,

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Speaker 25: if they say there's going to be a meeting and

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Speaker 25: there's not, that'll be even worse than what's happening on TNG.

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Speaker 25: So you know, these are continuing problems are all related

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Speaker 25: on defense spending and Australian US relationship.

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Speaker 2: Exactly does carbon emission's target today? The expectation is what

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Speaker 2: and politically how does it sit?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 25: Look Chris Bowen as a missions minister, has he've really

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01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 25: tried to set the scene for an aggressive target. He

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Speaker 25: seems to be out of a step a bit with

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Speaker 25: what's happening around the world. People are starting to rain

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Speaker 25: in targets. He wants to push them out. We've seen

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Speaker 25: a very scary report on economic impact of six hundred

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Speaker 25: and ten boogion dollar cost to Australia if nothing is done.

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Speaker 25: But a lot of economists are saying this is a

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Speaker 25: dodgy modeling, that it's got full of gaps and it

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01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 25: goes through twenty ninety. So you know a lot of

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01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:35,560
Speaker 25: it is going to be saying, well, hold on what

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01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 25: is going on here? So Chris baren trying to set

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Speaker 25: a very aggressive target, but already people saying, look, he's

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Speaker 25: probably basic and on some false assumptions. And also the government.

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Speaker 25: We found out yesterday from Treasury the government did not

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Speaker 25: ask for a range of targets, you know, it didn't say, oh, look,

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Speaker 25: you know, we want to resist between seventy five percent.

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Speaker 25: It just gave them one number. Interesting and that is

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Speaker 25: the number we're going to see today. So that's that's

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01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 25: a problem for Chris Bowen, how hard he goes.

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Speaker 2: On related matters. Andrew Hasty and has interview the other day,

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01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 2: and Susan lay and this is net zero and their

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01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,600
Speaker 2: ongoing scrap and the coalition about you know what to

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01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 2: do about that?

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Speaker 25: Is she?

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Speaker 2: And Troup?

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Speaker 11: Is he?

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Speaker 2: Is he building towards something leadership esque?

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Speaker 25: I think so. I think that it may even be

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01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 25: broader than a leadership esque problem. I alluded in the

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Speaker 25: Weekend Australian to the fact that there are members of

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01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 25: the coalition seeingior members of the Coalition who are starting

1756
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 25: to say that after the defeat of the Coalition, the

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Speaker 25: massive defeat at the last election, and the fact that

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01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 25: they're not seeming to change wanting to change their policies,

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01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 25: that there could be the time for the establishment of

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Speaker 25: the Conservative Party. Now I'm not going to say that's

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01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 25: necessarily going to happen, nor is there necessarily an imminent

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01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 25: threat to Susan Lee. But there is clearly and we

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01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 25: saw Centa Dott Dunman saying yesterday that there will be

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Speaker 25: a mass exodus from the Coalition front bench if Susan

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01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 25: Lee and adopts a net zero policy at all costs

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Speaker 25: by twenty fifty. The sort of get out phrase here

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01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 25: is at all costs. So Susan Lee can say, oh, well, look,

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Speaker 25: well we're going to adopt a twenty to fifty target,

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Speaker 25: but we're going to say you can't do it if

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Speaker 25: it means this. So there is still room for Susan

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01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 25: Lee to operate. But things are getting very bad over

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Speaker 25: this particular issue, and still ongoing problems on migration targets

1773
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 25: and what's happening there. So I don't think Susan Leeds

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01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 25: bringing a big speech on the economy today try and

1775
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 25: shift the debate. I think she's still in a lot

1776
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Speaker 25: of troup.

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Speaker 2: Right and Sid dinnis ketchup next week. Appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: Dinner Shanahan out of Australia. The aforementioned Trump and the

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Speaker 2: Australian journalists if you missed it earlier.

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Speaker 22: Appropriate President Frank that a president in office.

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Speaker 1: Should be engaged in so much bitter's activity.

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Speaker 19: Well, I'm really not.

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Speaker 6: My kids are running the business and you know at

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Speaker 6: the activity.

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Speaker 1: Where are you from.

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Speaker 11: I'm from the Australian Broadcasting Operation.

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Speaker 6: Full corn and pro right the Australias. You're hurting Australia rates.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, you.

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Speaker 6: Are hurting Australia very much right now.

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Speaker 1: But they want to get along with me.

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Speaker 6: You know, your your leader is coming over to see

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Speaker 6: me very so I'm going to tell them about you.

1793
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Speaker 6: And you said a very bad tone.

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Speaker 2: That's probably the worst part of it. I'm going to

1795
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Speaker 2: tell them about you. It's like primary school fourteen to two, the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard By

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Speaker 2: It'd be Mike my brother did seventeen one time. Seventeen

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Speaker 2: is good. I didn't get to the it and it

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Speaker 2: was a fair question from Glenn. Is it distance or skips?

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's skips. I mean distance is pathetic. I

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Speaker 2: mean distance is throwing. Skipping is a skill. I would

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Speaker 2: have thought, by the way, from the United nations this morning.

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Speaker 2: This tells you the state of the world. Germany is

1805
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 2: no longer in the top ten of the most innovative

1806
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Speaker 2: nations in the world. Isn't it weird to think that Germany,

1807
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 2: the home I would have argued the home of innovation

1808
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Speaker 2: for most of my lifetime, is no longer in the

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Speaker 2: top ten countries most innovative in the world. Switzerland's number one,

1810
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 2: and they've been number one for about ever. US is

1811
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 2: up there. China's now moved into tenth place, bumped Germany

1812
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Speaker 2: off one hundred and thirty nine Economy seventy eight indicators.

1813
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Speaker 2: Are we anywhere?

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Speaker 7: And now?

1815
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 2: Of course we're not ownership of patents all that sort

1816
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Speaker 2: of stuff are and d growth set to slow this

1817
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Speaker 2: year two point three percent from two point nine last year,

1818
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Speaker 2: lowest since twenty ten. So people aren't that, you know,

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01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 2: flash on innovation anymore. But Switzerland's the best, China's growing

1820
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 2: growing fast, and Germany ain't what it used to be?

1821
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Speaker 2: Can we bump ourselves up if we got into the

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Speaker 2: smart glasses game?

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Speaker 19: Do you think.

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Speaker 2: The New Zealand are very much He's National Act in

1825
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 2: New Zealand first working together the thought of labor and

1826
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Speaker 2: the rebels that are the Murray Party in the Greens

1827
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Speaker 2: would be enough to make me move to Australia. Yep,

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Speaker 2: you say that every time, Carolyn, I mean not you personally,

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Speaker 2: but everyone says that every time. Don't they tell you

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Speaker 2: what if this happens, I'm moving to Australia. The funny

1831
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Speaker 2: thing this last three years, it actually happened like it

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Speaker 2: used to be, everyone said they're going to Australia. Sadly,

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Speaker 2: this time it happened. Next year's election more important than

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Speaker 2: the last. That's probably true. New Zealand doern need to

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Speaker 2: pay more attention, take a good hard look at ourselves

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Speaker 2: to the nonsense and a visib rhetoric coming out of

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Speaker 2: the left that they get in New Zealand. Will definitely

1838
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Speaker 2: not be the same, But Vincent, that's democracy, isn't it. No,

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Speaker 2: it won't be the same, and the Democratic Act will

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Speaker 2: Robert de Niro dead at the age of eighty nine. Retired,

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Speaker 2: of course from acting in twenty eighteen. But what did

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Speaker 2: I say? Oh, for goodness some zero apologies Robert riefit

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Speaker 2: mass and Zeo apologies anyway, retired in nineteen or did he?

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Speaker 2: I'm always looking. That was a mistake. I should never

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Speaker 2: have said that.

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Speaker 3: If I'm going to retire, I should just slip quietly

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Speaker 3: away from acting.

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Speaker 8: But I shouldn't be talking about it because I think

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01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 8: it draws too much attention in the wrong way.

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01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 2: Keep the mystery alive. So are all the changes in

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Speaker 2: Hollywood there made to movement? You know the fact that

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Speaker 2: women now have a voice.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be heard and they're going to raise

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Speaker 3: it louder and louder, I hope, because they've been pushed

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01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 3: aside for so long. And I'm very happy to see

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01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 3: what's going to be happening with women in terms of

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Speaker 3: leadership roles, you know, executive roles, acting roles.

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Speaker 2: It's time, yes, an active but also a direct where

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Speaker 2: he got his biggest eco life.

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Speaker 8: I'm always looking what's beyond or behind what I'm looking at.

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01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 8: And I also I love using my imagination. I exercise

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Speaker 8: that because that's what storytelling's about.

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Speaker 2: Loved Utah Sundance and all of that. Environmentalists for many,

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Speaker 2: many years. Of course, they tried not to hire him.

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Speaker 2: In the Butcher in the Sundance, they were des but

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Speaker 2: not to hire him. One of the directors said, look,

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Speaker 2: he's just another blonde kid from Melibu. Throw a stick

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01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 2: out a window. You hit six of them. But the

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Speaker 2: other bloke, who was quite established at the time, said

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Speaker 2: you got.

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Speaker 12: To have him.

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Speaker 2: Here's your man, and he was right back tomorrow from

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Speaker 2: six Happy Days.

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