1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Right now, we're seeing early signs of a turnaround for 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: the economy. Asb's quarterly forecast shows signs in fation will 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: fall below three percent over the second half of this 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: year and remain well contained beyond twenty twenty four. It 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: comes after, of course, the ocr was dropped slightly last week. 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Nick Tuffley's The ASBTEF Economists, good morning, Good morning, Good 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: to have you on the show. Most importantly, I think, 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: because people now feel like something is turning a corner 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: household spending, when are we going to see it start 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: ramping up? Is it straight away? Is it you know, 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: in six months? Is it Christmas? 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: It's still going to take some time, and think we'll 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: start to see some early signs trickling through. What we've 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: got really is a number of people who will still 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: be under pressure for some time, because even though morgite 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: rates have started to come down, there will still be 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: some people where it will take a little bit until 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: they actually do see a change in their own own paper. Fortunately, 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: what we're seeing is is that a lot of people 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: when their mortgages come up for renewal, they've tended to 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: opt for a short term like six months or twelve months, 22 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: so the benefits will start to flow through, but we 23 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: just need to take be a little bit patient. 24 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, the time leg should be quicker at this end 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: of the cycle rather than the other end coming in right. 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: Yes, we've had a lot of people who have been 27 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: sitting there so hope hopefully waiting for interest rates to 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: come down, and had a very early Christmas present last 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: week with rapes coming down, so that look it will help. 30 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 2: And the other thing is just the mood as well, 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: Like it's been evident for a lot of this year, 32 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: just how many people have just been holding out the 33 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: question of and ask so much as when is my 34 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: mortgage rate coming down? And now people know. Businesses also 35 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: know as well that their customers will be seeing their 36 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: own financial pressures at ease over time too. 37 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: I went to visit a business on Friday. It's somebody 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: who I do work with. They're like a creative sort 39 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: of talent talent agency type place and they rely ont 40 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: on ad spend and they have walked into the office 41 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: and they looked very busy, which I didn't quite expect. 42 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 1: They were hiring two new staff and they said they're 43 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: one of the first industries. You know, everyone sort of 44 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: cuts advertising as then as there's a recession, they're one 45 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: of the first to feel it when it goes down, 46 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: but also the first to feel it when it's on 47 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: the way back up, which I thought was interesting. 48 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's going to be lots of industries like that. 49 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: And I think next story you're talking about is, Look, 50 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: we've noticed over the last month or so, since there 51 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: was speculation and interst rates would fall fairly quickly, that 52 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: there has been a bit of a change in mood. 53 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 2: And you will see those various sectors that, depending on 54 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: where they are and the whole sequence of events, like 55 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 2: say the housing market is one where confidence comes back 56 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: fairly quickly as well as one example of an industry 57 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: that will turn around a bit quicker. 58 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for that, Nick Tuffley, with us the 59 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: ASP Chief Economists. 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