1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,693 Speaker 1: from News Talks at me. 3 00:00:33,653 --> 00:00:37,213 Speaker 2: That is Lady Hawk. She's done an amazing thing. I 4 00:00:37,213 --> 00:00:39,973 Speaker 2: think Lady Hawk, she's really kind of captured the essence 5 00:00:40,053 --> 00:00:43,613 Speaker 2: of eighties pop, given her a little twist, and yeah, 6 00:00:43,613 --> 00:00:46,093 Speaker 2: she writes some extraordinary music. She is our feature interview 7 00:00:46,093 --> 00:00:48,933 Speaker 2: after ten o'clock this morning. She is going back to 8 00:00:48,973 --> 00:00:51,973 Speaker 2: her first ever album as Lady Hawk, and she's going 9 00:00:52,013 --> 00:00:53,653 Speaker 2: to be performing that live, So we're going to talk 10 00:00:53,693 --> 00:00:55,093 Speaker 2: to her about that after ten o'clock. 11 00:00:55,253 --> 00:00:55,573 Speaker 1: Very much. 12 00:00:55,613 --> 00:00:57,533 Speaker 2: Looking forward to that right now, those twenty two minutes 13 00:00:57,573 --> 00:01:00,773 Speaker 2: to ten. Francisca Runken, our film reviewer, is with us 14 00:01:00,813 --> 00:01:04,613 Speaker 2: this morning. Morning, not good morning. Okay. Both of your 15 00:01:04,613 --> 00:01:07,333 Speaker 2: films for us this week are showing in cinemas at 16 00:01:07,373 --> 00:01:09,373 Speaker 2: the moment, so let's start off with the one starring 17 00:01:09,493 --> 00:01:12,533 Speaker 2: Robin Wright and Tom Hanks. This is here. 18 00:01:15,573 --> 00:01:18,133 Speaker 3: Hey, dad'd like you to meet Margaret. 19 00:01:18,733 --> 00:01:19,973 Speaker 1: Nice to meet from Margaret. 20 00:01:20,093 --> 00:01:25,253 Speaker 3: Nice to meet you, mister young. You know, if you like, 21 00:01:26,853 --> 00:01:34,093 Speaker 3: you could spend the rest of the night here. I 22 00:01:34,133 --> 00:01:35,773 Speaker 3: can spend the rest of my life here. 23 00:01:38,533 --> 00:01:42,333 Speaker 2: Okay, that is here, tell us about it. Francisca Okay. 24 00:01:42,413 --> 00:01:45,773 Speaker 3: So this is directed by Robert Zemeckis and he reunites 25 00:01:45,813 --> 00:01:49,493 Speaker 3: with his Forest Gump cast, Tom Hanks and Robin Wright 26 00:01:49,573 --> 00:01:53,533 Speaker 3: in this film. And the gimmick here is that the 27 00:01:53,533 --> 00:01:57,173 Speaker 3: film is set on one piece of land which then 28 00:01:57,253 --> 00:02:00,653 Speaker 3: becomes once a house is built, one living room of 29 00:02:00,733 --> 00:02:05,493 Speaker 3: a house over decades, and we take a look at 30 00:02:05,533 --> 00:02:08,333 Speaker 3: the different piece people who have lived in this house 31 00:02:08,373 --> 00:02:11,413 Speaker 3: and on this land, so we kind of travel through 32 00:02:11,453 --> 00:02:16,653 Speaker 3: time capturing all these historic moments. It's one locked off 33 00:02:16,733 --> 00:02:20,853 Speaker 3: shot inside this living room, Jack. And it turns out 34 00:02:21,053 --> 00:02:29,613 Speaker 3: I find that hugely frustrating to watch, probably because it 35 00:02:29,733 --> 00:02:32,893 Speaker 3: sets the film up as a piece of theater. It 36 00:02:32,973 --> 00:02:37,733 Speaker 3: creates a theater environment. So the cast, which is exceptional, 37 00:02:38,173 --> 00:02:41,293 Speaker 3: amazing names in this cast, they all have to act 38 00:02:41,653 --> 00:02:45,413 Speaker 3: towards the camera, but of course can't look at the camera. 39 00:02:46,053 --> 00:02:49,013 Speaker 3: So it's like a group of actors on a stage 40 00:02:49,053 --> 00:02:52,973 Speaker 3: and they're all over acting. There's fake laughing. It's just 41 00:02:53,253 --> 00:02:55,853 Speaker 3: it did my head. And there is nothing natialistic about 42 00:02:55,853 --> 00:02:59,293 Speaker 3: this film at all. So they're all performing while avoiding 43 00:02:59,333 --> 00:03:01,853 Speaker 3: this camera, and you've got this locked off shot. I 44 00:03:02,253 --> 00:03:06,093 Speaker 3: hadn't quite realized how that locked off shot can distance 45 00:03:06,173 --> 00:03:09,493 Speaker 3: you from what is going on. It made this film 46 00:03:09,653 --> 00:03:12,373 Speaker 3: quite cold and really hard to kind of interact with it, 47 00:03:12,773 --> 00:03:15,573 Speaker 3: and I was just begging for that camera to move. 48 00:03:16,813 --> 00:03:19,773 Speaker 3: So I think because of the setup, because the way 49 00:03:19,813 --> 00:03:23,093 Speaker 3: it's kind of designed. This would be so cool if 50 00:03:23,133 --> 00:03:26,693 Speaker 3: it was a visual display in a museum kind of 51 00:03:26,733 --> 00:03:29,693 Speaker 3: taking you through history, but as a drama that we're 52 00:03:29,693 --> 00:03:32,373 Speaker 3: supposed to sort of engage and get this feeling for 53 00:03:33,453 --> 00:03:37,453 Speaker 3: time and these historic events and family and place and 54 00:03:37,493 --> 00:03:40,293 Speaker 3: how generations have changed but still say the same all 55 00:03:40,333 --> 00:03:44,973 Speaker 3: these really interesting ideas, but it's just so frustrating to watch. 56 00:03:45,373 --> 00:03:47,893 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving is coming up, of course in the US, and 57 00:03:47,933 --> 00:03:50,413 Speaker 3: I wonder whether it is kind of more to appeal 58 00:03:50,573 --> 00:03:53,413 Speaker 3: to that audience a bit of you know, being grateful 59 00:03:53,453 --> 00:03:56,893 Speaker 3: for family and home and where we are. Yeah, I'm 60 00:03:56,893 --> 00:03:58,853 Speaker 3: not sure. I just thought this was such a waste 61 00:03:58,853 --> 00:04:02,333 Speaker 3: of a great cast and just I mean, we go 62 00:04:02,373 --> 00:04:05,173 Speaker 3: through everything we have. We have a Native American courtship, 63 00:04:05,213 --> 00:04:09,253 Speaker 3: we have the the the Franklin family during the Civil War, 64 00:04:09,293 --> 00:04:11,613 Speaker 3: there's the inventor of the lazy Boy. I don't know 65 00:04:11,653 --> 00:04:14,453 Speaker 3: why he made the cut, and then we sort of 66 00:04:14,453 --> 00:04:17,453 Speaker 3: had this family, which is where Tom Hanks and Robin 67 00:04:17,493 --> 00:04:20,653 Speaker 3: Wright come in and they use that anti aging software 68 00:04:20,693 --> 00:04:22,773 Speaker 3: they have that we've seen used in films before. 69 00:04:22,853 --> 00:04:23,053 Speaker 1: Jack. 70 00:04:23,573 --> 00:04:25,773 Speaker 3: So they play these characters very young, growing up, but 71 00:04:25,773 --> 00:04:28,893 Speaker 3: actually they're just really just a very normal, boring marriage. 72 00:04:29,093 --> 00:04:31,573 Speaker 3: I didn't really get anything for it. So yeah, I 73 00:04:31,653 --> 00:04:33,853 Speaker 3: was just a bit disappointed in this little number. 74 00:04:34,133 --> 00:04:36,613 Speaker 2: A glowing review, A glowing review of here. 75 00:04:38,733 --> 00:04:38,853 Speaker 3: Ah. 76 00:04:38,973 --> 00:04:40,853 Speaker 2: That's a shame, though, because when I saw Robin Write 77 00:04:40,853 --> 00:04:42,493 Speaker 2: and Tom Hanks, I was like, oh my gosh, that's 78 00:04:42,493 --> 00:04:45,173 Speaker 2: so exciting. Yeah, but okay, in fact, I was actually, 79 00:04:45,893 --> 00:04:47,893 Speaker 2: you know, I'm here in Washington, d C. I went 80 00:04:47,893 --> 00:04:50,693 Speaker 2: for a run last night past the Lincoln Memorial, you know, 81 00:04:50,693 --> 00:04:53,173 Speaker 2: which is the one that looks yes, the reflecting poor. 82 00:04:53,613 --> 00:04:56,173 Speaker 2: Every time I go past there, I think about Forest Gump, 83 00:04:56,213 --> 00:04:57,453 Speaker 2: and I think about that moment. 84 00:04:58,253 --> 00:05:00,893 Speaker 3: She dives in runs up. Yeah. 85 00:05:00,973 --> 00:05:03,973 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but it sounds like it sounds like Here 86 00:05:04,013 --> 00:05:06,293 Speaker 2: doesn't really have the same kind of icon. 87 00:05:06,453 --> 00:05:09,933 Speaker 3: Well I suppose, yeah, Jack, I think of you. Maybe 88 00:05:09,973 --> 00:05:14,053 Speaker 3: if you do really enjoy theater, then you'll enjoy the film. 89 00:05:14,093 --> 00:05:15,693 Speaker 3: That's fine. The positive there we go. 90 00:05:15,813 --> 00:05:18,013 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, very good. All right, So that 91 00:05:18,133 --> 00:05:21,053 Speaker 2: is here that is showing in cinemas now also showing 92 00:05:21,093 --> 00:05:23,093 Speaker 2: in cinemas. This is a different man. 93 00:05:24,893 --> 00:05:31,013 Speaker 3: What's your word? Oh hey, neighbor. The people can be 94 00:05:31,093 --> 00:05:31,973 Speaker 3: cruel imagic. 95 00:05:34,693 --> 00:05:37,893 Speaker 1: This drug seems to have the potential to actually heal you. 96 00:05:38,213 --> 00:05:40,733 Speaker 1: The implications for life changes and I. 97 00:05:40,853 --> 00:05:49,533 Speaker 2: Believe my eyes and word remember me all I Okay, 98 00:05:49,613 --> 00:05:52,013 Speaker 2: that's a different man. Tell us about it, Francisco. 99 00:05:52,813 --> 00:05:55,573 Speaker 3: So this film stars Sebastian stan who is doing a 100 00:05:55,773 --> 00:05:58,493 Speaker 3: really interesting body of work at the moment. Most people 101 00:05:58,573 --> 00:06:00,733 Speaker 3: will know him as the Winter Soldier from the Marvel 102 00:06:00,813 --> 00:06:04,213 Speaker 3: films and sort of after spending fifteen years in the 103 00:06:04,213 --> 00:06:07,133 Speaker 3: Marvel universe and getting those wonderful pages, it's given himn 104 00:06:07,133 --> 00:06:10,693 Speaker 3: opportunity to kind of pick some edgy independent films. And 105 00:06:10,733 --> 00:06:13,733 Speaker 3: he's currently starring this film and also playing Trump in 106 00:06:13,813 --> 00:06:15,813 Speaker 3: The Apprentice, which is on at cinemas at the moment 107 00:06:15,853 --> 00:06:18,253 Speaker 3: as well. And he is a want to be actor 108 00:06:18,293 --> 00:06:20,373 Speaker 3: and he has a condition that means that his face 109 00:06:20,493 --> 00:06:23,373 Speaker 3: is covered in tumors. He's got this very disfigured face 110 00:06:23,853 --> 00:06:27,933 Speaker 3: and he gets the opportunity to join an experimental medical 111 00:06:27,973 --> 00:06:31,613 Speaker 3: study and he jumps at this chance because there's a 112 00:06:31,653 --> 00:06:35,493 Speaker 3: possibility he could be cured it's incredibly painful process, but 113 00:06:35,613 --> 00:06:38,733 Speaker 3: it works and it transforms his appearance into a good 114 00:06:38,773 --> 00:06:41,853 Speaker 3: look and average guy. So he changes his name from 115 00:06:41,973 --> 00:06:45,293 Speaker 3: Edward to Guy and he gets on with his life. 116 00:06:45,333 --> 00:06:47,293 Speaker 3: But this is sort of a film that takes the 117 00:06:47,333 --> 00:06:53,213 Speaker 3: lock at the idea of identity and beauty and sort 118 00:06:53,213 --> 00:06:58,293 Speaker 3: of being your authentic self and being physically beautiful isn't 119 00:06:58,333 --> 00:07:01,653 Speaker 3: all sort of it's jacked up to be. He feels 120 00:07:01,693 --> 00:07:05,573 Speaker 3: he's lost his identity, and this becomes really apparent when 121 00:07:05,573 --> 00:07:07,933 Speaker 3: he discovers his old neighbor who had a bit of 122 00:07:07,973 --> 00:07:11,293 Speaker 3: a crush on when he was Edward, and she has 123 00:07:11,293 --> 00:07:14,133 Speaker 3: written the play based on him, about a man who 124 00:07:14,213 --> 00:07:17,093 Speaker 3: lives with this disfigurement. So he goes and he says, 125 00:07:17,093 --> 00:07:19,013 Speaker 3: I have to play this part. So it gets the part, 126 00:07:19,133 --> 00:07:22,333 Speaker 3: only to end up losing the part to another gentleman 127 00:07:22,373 --> 00:07:26,453 Speaker 3: played by Adam Pearson, who is actually disfigured. So he 128 00:07:26,573 --> 00:07:29,893 Speaker 3: has this huge kind of crisis of identity. This is 129 00:07:30,293 --> 00:07:32,573 Speaker 3: out there, This is out there. It's a black comedy. 130 00:07:32,973 --> 00:07:36,813 Speaker 3: It's really edgy. It's very clever, really interesting things. It's 131 00:07:37,333 --> 00:07:39,573 Speaker 3: very unique. I love the fact that something a little 132 00:07:39,613 --> 00:07:42,173 Speaker 3: bit different and tackles a really interesting topic in a 133 00:07:42,173 --> 00:07:46,013 Speaker 3: different way. And Sebastian stan is fantastic enough. 134 00:07:46,653 --> 00:07:48,613 Speaker 2: Okay, great, that sounds like a bit of me. Thank 135 00:07:48,653 --> 00:07:51,013 Speaker 2: you very much for that, Franchisca, So that's a different man. 136 00:07:51,133 --> 00:07:53,613 Speaker 2: Francisca's first film, the one with Tom Hanks and Robin Wright, 137 00:07:53,733 --> 00:07:56,093 Speaker 2: is here, and of course both of those will be 138 00:07:56,173 --> 00:07:58,613 Speaker 2: up on the News talks 'DB website. They're showing cinemas 139 00:07:58,613 --> 00:07:59,093 Speaker 2: at the moment. 140 00:07:59,653 --> 00:08:02,773 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 141 00:08:02,853 --> 00:08:06,053 Speaker 1: to newstalks 'B from nine am Saturday, or follow the 142 00:08:06,133 --> 00:08:07,613 Speaker 1: pot cast on iHeartRadio