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Speaker 1: Ever duplicy Allen, eighteen past five. Now, apparently going to

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Speaker 1: the op shop might be falling out of fashion. Young

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Speaker 1: women apparently who want to look good nowadays aren't buying

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Speaker 1: secondhand clothes like previous generations. Otago University professor Lisa McNeil

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Speaker 1: has been doing some research here and is with us

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Speaker 1: high Lisa Hi Heather, So what is it that they

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Speaker 1: don't like about the op shop?

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Speaker 2: It's less that they don't like it, but they're seeing

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Speaker 2: significant barriers to actually shopping in that way, so it's

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Speaker 2: hard for them. It's expensive when they compare it to

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Speaker 2: some of the cheap new options that are available in market,

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Speaker 2: and they're not quite so satisfied with what's on offer

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Speaker 2: in the op shops.

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Speaker 1: How much of it do you reckon? Is the time

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Speaker 1: time issue? Because boy oh boy, digging through all that

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Speaker 1: stuff in a shop is a hell of a task,

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Speaker 1: isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely and a number of the young women in my

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Speaker 2: study actually talked about that, and even just the perception

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Speaker 2: of the effort before getting to the store can be

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Speaker 2: off putting for some of them. Stores are kind of

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Speaker 2: working on that, and they're trying to organize clothing peraps

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Speaker 2: by color, range, by type, or by size, but it's

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Speaker 2: still perceived as a lot of labor.

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Speaker 1: Can we say that because of the rise of I

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Speaker 1: don't even know how you pronounce it any more. Sheene

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Speaker 1: shine whatever, the machine and the shine and the tea mouron,

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Speaker 1: all those cheap options. Op shops are going to die.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're ever going to die, because the

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Speaker 2: reality is we've got far more garments and textiles than

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Speaker 2: we really need. And I think that certainly we're going

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Speaker 2: to have to actually have a circular economy around textiles

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Speaker 2: and around garments heading into the future. But I think

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Speaker 2: we're going to have to perhaps think smarter about the

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Speaker 2: way that we present what's on offer, and maybe consumers

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Speaker 2: have to be a bit more conscious about what they

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Speaker 2: buy and donate.

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Speaker 1: Lisa, thank you so much. I really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: A Lisa McNeil, who is an Otago University professor having

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Speaker 1: a study of the op shops. I matgine, if you

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Speaker 1: could just decide to imagine, if you could just decide

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Speaker 1: to do that, you know what, Today I feel like

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Speaker 1: I feel like studying op shops for more from Hither

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