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Speaker 1: Getting approval for new hort and egg products should be

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Speaker 1: about to speed up. Ministry of Regulations made eight sixteen

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Speaker 1: recommendations to MPI and the EPA to improve our current process.

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Speaker 1: Has included new time target, which hopefully will get you

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Speaker 1: through the backlog of applications, of which there are some.

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Speaker 1: Apparently some people have been waiting for five years. I'm

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Speaker 1: told Food Safety Minister Andrew Hoggard will there's Andrew morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 1: How is it possible to wait for five years for anything?

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Speaker 2: A good question, and that's something hopefully we'll get on

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Speaker 2: top of. I think there's just been in similar situations,

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Speaker 2: and these are particularly with the EPA, where products have

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Speaker 2: just sat there, people are waiting and just massive amounts

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Speaker 2: of paperwork and uncertain as to what paperwork they've got

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Speaker 2: to produce and provide, and things keep going back and

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Speaker 2: forth and bit off a never ending circle.

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Speaker 1: Is this an easy fix? In other words, when you

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Speaker 1: go in there with a bomb, blow it up, simplified,

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Speaker 1: it will be rectified? Or is it more complex than that?

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Speaker 2: Look, there'll be so within these recommendations that are going forward.

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Speaker 2: Now there's some it's a good start. I've got more

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Speaker 2: that I'll be bringing forward for ACVM later in the

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Speaker 2: year or perhaps into next year. There's serve of working consultation.

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Speaker 2: It's going to happen before I can bring that, and

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Speaker 2: I believe kenn he's got the same for making improvements

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Speaker 2: around that has no act as well.

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Speaker 1: Right, So, as you came in from the farm to

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Speaker 1: the cloistered environs of politics, did you know all this

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Speaker 1: as a man of the land or is this come

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Speaker 1: as a surprise to you on.

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Speaker 2: You particular for the horticultural stuff there. I'd certainly heard

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Speaker 2: of the concerns around the time delays, but getting in

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Speaker 2: there and seeing it firsthand and seeing the processes and

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Speaker 2: how long thing to taking that was a bit of

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Speaker 2: an eye opener for sure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So it says two hundred and seventy two million

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Speaker 1: dollars in savings over twenty years, which is only thirteen

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Yes, you want to do it,

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Speaker 1: but it's hardly going to revolutionize the industry, is it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is this actually a big problem?

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Speaker 2: Well? Giving examples, so last year there was a potential

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Speaker 2: hold up or problem with bird repellents may seed and

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Speaker 2: this was just before I was about amaze and everyone

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Speaker 2: else was about to climber maze where there'd been a

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Speaker 2: ruling on the paperwork you had isn't good enough. You

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Speaker 2: have to go and get new paperwork, and it's going

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Speaker 2: to take this time. And that would have meant there

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Speaker 2: would have been no bird repellent to be able to

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Speaker 2: put in may seed anywhere around the country, and it

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Speaker 2: would have had huge impacts on you, not only my farm,

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Speaker 2: but every other farm that grows maize and so been.

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Speaker 2: Thankfully that didn't come about and that bird repellent was available.

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Speaker 2: But that's sort of an example of how actually holding

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Speaker 2: up one of these products can have a major detrimental

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Speaker 2: impact across the whole sector. You know that two seventy

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Speaker 2: two million is about for the cost to the providers

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Speaker 2: of the products. There's that cost that's hard to quantify

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Speaker 2: to the farmers of this country. Whereas if we can't

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Speaker 2: use chemicals of certain new technologies aren't available, it can

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Speaker 2: just make an absolute mess of our farming business.

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Speaker 1: That's good stuff. Now, do you know anything about the

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Food Innovation Network signing a deal with the

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Speaker 1: Canadian Food Innovation Network.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't, precisely I did visit them two weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: but we didn't talk about Canada. Ah.

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Speaker 1: Interesting because they've signed a deal whereby we're going to

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Speaker 1: be able to get access to international markets, memory ending

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Speaker 1: of understanding, use their expertise to get access to international markets,

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Speaker 1: faster manufacturing knowledge, all of that sort of stuff. Whose

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Speaker 1: department would that be?

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Speaker 2: Some of the stuff they operate and does come under.

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Speaker 2: So I was talking about with them around some of

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Speaker 2: the challenges they have with food safety rules and how

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Speaker 2: because they're kind of in it. You know, we've got

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Speaker 2: a system that's designed to put square pegs and square

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Speaker 2: holes and doesn't recognize innovation very well. And so you know,

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Speaker 2: I was talking to them and following up with them

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Speaker 2: around how what do we need to change in the

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Speaker 2: system to enable more innovation to occur?

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Speaker 1: Interesting, well, chase them up on the Canadian thinkers. I'm

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Speaker 1: interested in that. By the way, Italians Italian Qi fruit,

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Speaker 1: you know anything about that?

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Speaker 2: Well? I do know that Zesbrey do have license agreements

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Speaker 2: with growers and ly World.

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Speaker 1: It's not that they because we got Zesbrey and they

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Speaker 1: said it's not them. So it's just these these rogue

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Speaker 1: Italians that are growing this dodgy fruit. You need to

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Speaker 1: be under the Andrew.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a free market and we allow people to

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Speaker 2: import to our countries so it's safe. I'm not the

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Speaker 2: Minister of food tastiness, just safety.

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Speaker 1: Nice to talk to you, have a good I'm not

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Speaker 1: the Minister of food tastiness quite of the day, so fast.

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