1
00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387
Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine

2
00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,787
Speaker 1: from Newstalks ed b O Cricket.

3
00:00:14,667 --> 00:00:16,907
Speaker 2: We woke up this morning, or you might have stayed

4
00:00:16,987 --> 00:00:19,227
Speaker 2: up to watch or got up to watch. We woke up,

5
00:00:19,267 --> 00:00:21,627
Speaker 2: though many of us, to the news that the White

6
00:00:21,667 --> 00:00:25,027
Speaker 2: Ferns are through to the final of the T twenty

7
00:00:25,067 --> 00:00:26,987
Speaker 2: Cricket World Cup in the UAE.

8
00:00:27,427 --> 00:00:33,587
Speaker 3: Not enough and New Zealand legends Susie bets Sophie divine

9
00:00:33,947 --> 00:00:36,827
Speaker 3: hear to who who have turned the tables on the

10
00:00:36,867 --> 00:00:41,467
Speaker 3: Westerndies and finally they have exercised the course of twenty

11
00:00:41,587 --> 00:00:47,147
Speaker 3: sixteen and they are into the final. Well the ICC

12
00:00:47,307 --> 00:00:50,387
Speaker 3: Women's T twenty World Cup twenty.

13
00:00:50,107 --> 00:00:53,587
Speaker 2: Twenty four outstanding New Zealand beating the Weast Indies by

14
00:00:53,667 --> 00:00:55,747
Speaker 2: eight runs in Shahjah this morning.

15
00:00:55,787 --> 00:00:56,627
Speaker 4: In their semi final.

16
00:00:56,627 --> 00:00:59,307
Speaker 2: They scored one hundred and twenty eight for nine and

17
00:00:59,387 --> 00:01:02,507
Speaker 2: then restricted the Windys to one hundred and twenty for

18
00:01:02,627 --> 00:01:06,227
Speaker 2: eight from their twenty overs. Former Whitefern and now comment

19
00:01:06,507 --> 00:01:09,347
Speaker 2: to Katie Martin has joined us. She watched on and

20
00:01:09,627 --> 00:01:12,547
Speaker 2: commentated this game this morning, as she has been for

21
00:01:12,587 --> 00:01:16,147
Speaker 2: the entire tournament. The White Ferns in a World Cup Final,

22
00:01:16,227 --> 00:01:17,507
Speaker 2: Katie Martin, How good is this?

23
00:01:19,067 --> 00:01:20,787
Speaker 5: I don't think I would have believed this about in

24
00:01:20,827 --> 00:01:23,827
Speaker 5: the last eighteen months or so, but these haven't. They

25
00:01:23,867 --> 00:01:26,787
Speaker 5: performed like what kew We's performed like. They've just showed

26
00:01:26,787 --> 00:01:30,227
Speaker 5: so much heart and determination. And I saw the girls

27
00:01:30,227 --> 00:01:31,867
Speaker 5: at the end of the game and they're all just

28
00:01:31,947 --> 00:01:35,027
Speaker 5: in disbelief. They sort of can't quite believe what's happened.

29
00:01:35,067 --> 00:01:37,827
Speaker 5: So it's a pretty special moment. It's been a long

30
00:01:37,867 --> 00:01:40,547
Speaker 5: time between drinks for the women's team to make a final,

31
00:01:40,667 --> 00:01:43,867
Speaker 5: so hopefully they can knock the top off. It's probably, yeah,

32
00:01:43,867 --> 00:01:45,787
Speaker 5: Everest the teach when he worked up between the men

33
00:01:45,827 --> 00:01:48,387
Speaker 5: and the women, so yeah, they've got an opportunity to

34
00:01:48,427 --> 00:01:49,147
Speaker 5: do it on Sunday.

35
00:01:49,467 --> 00:01:51,947
Speaker 4: At the innings break, did one hundred and twenty eight

36
00:01:52,347 --> 00:01:53,187
Speaker 4: feel like enough?

37
00:01:55,307 --> 00:01:59,107
Speaker 5: Not really, because while the West Indies and you would

38
00:01:59,107 --> 00:02:00,947
Speaker 5: have seen a lot of Western these scenes throughout the years,

39
00:02:00,947 --> 00:02:04,067
Speaker 5: they are probably the most unpredictable side. And when we

40
00:02:04,147 --> 00:02:06,347
Speaker 5: kept dropping to Andrew Dodd and I thought, oh goodness,

41
00:02:06,387 --> 00:02:08,747
Speaker 5: gracious me, you know ones that he didn't look like

42
00:02:08,787 --> 00:02:09,747
Speaker 5: a big enough score.

43
00:02:09,787 --> 00:02:11,227
Speaker 1: But you sort of just get a.

44
00:02:11,187 --> 00:02:14,787
Speaker 5: Sense that their bowling side of it has really clicked right.

45
00:02:14,827 --> 00:02:18,987
Speaker 5: Socia Vines mainly used before have key bowlers and obviously

46
00:02:19,027 --> 00:02:21,147
Speaker 5: a few youngsters in that bowling lineup as well, and

47
00:02:21,947 --> 00:02:24,347
Speaker 5: there's just so much clarity in how they go about it,

48
00:02:24,387 --> 00:02:27,747
Speaker 5: and they've had so much belief walking out onto the park.

49
00:02:27,787 --> 00:02:31,107
Speaker 5: And I think the results, well, maybe we haven't performed.

50
00:02:31,707 --> 00:02:33,907
Speaker 5: I guess that our very very best. We've scrapped our

51
00:02:33,907 --> 00:02:35,347
Speaker 5: way and we've found a way to win. And I

52
00:02:35,347 --> 00:02:38,307
Speaker 5: think that's in tournament and play that's the most crucial thing.

53
00:02:38,347 --> 00:02:41,547
Speaker 5: And in the end and ended up being enough runs.

54
00:02:42,107 --> 00:02:44,907
Speaker 2: Were there some key moments Katie in the West Indies

55
00:02:44,907 --> 00:02:48,627
Speaker 2: innings where things really turned where there were there were

56
00:02:48,667 --> 00:02:51,947
Speaker 2: pivotal times key wicket or something similar where you thought, okay,

57
00:02:52,187 --> 00:02:54,347
Speaker 2: this is swinging back in New Zealand's favor now.

58
00:02:56,347 --> 00:02:58,267
Speaker 5: I thought the way that we bowled in the power play,

59
00:02:58,427 --> 00:03:01,027
Speaker 5: especially the Hailey netthews is one of the most dangerous

60
00:03:01,027 --> 00:03:03,067
Speaker 5: batters in the world. You sort of felt if she

61
00:03:03,227 --> 00:03:05,107
Speaker 5: was there near the end, it gave the West Indy

62
00:03:05,187 --> 00:03:07,387
Speaker 5: the very best chance. I thought the way that we

63
00:03:07,467 --> 00:03:11,747
Speaker 5: bowled to her and Count of Joseph, who was so

64
00:03:11,827 --> 00:03:14,427
Speaker 5: dangerous against England. I thought our planning was outstanding. You

65
00:03:14,507 --> 00:03:17,067
Speaker 5: saw that they executed it, you saw the pressure they build,

66
00:03:17,107 --> 00:03:20,147
Speaker 5: and I thought, okay, we've put the Westiners a little

67
00:03:20,147 --> 00:03:22,987
Speaker 5: bit behind the game here early, and you just felt

68
00:03:22,987 --> 00:03:25,027
Speaker 5: that if Deandrew Dondon was there at the end and

69
00:03:25,067 --> 00:03:28,187
Speaker 5: we saw the massive over against Tajohu, that they could

70
00:03:28,227 --> 00:03:29,987
Speaker 5: win that. So I think the power play was so

71
00:03:30,067 --> 00:03:33,147
Speaker 5: crucial for us, and we created opportunities and in the

72
00:03:33,227 --> 00:03:35,547
Speaker 5: end the way that that if we're taking those it

73
00:03:35,587 --> 00:03:37,507
Speaker 5: would have been a far more comfortable win as well.

74
00:03:37,547 --> 00:03:39,787
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'd just send the clarity that the girls

75
00:03:39,787 --> 00:03:42,187
Speaker 5: were bowling with and the planning that the team had

76
00:03:42,187 --> 00:03:43,867
Speaker 5: put in really paid Dividenso.

77
00:03:43,467 --> 00:03:46,827
Speaker 2: That Eden Carson three for twenty nine gees, she's having

78
00:03:46,867 --> 00:03:49,587
Speaker 2: some sort of tournament. What have you seen in the

79
00:03:49,587 --> 00:03:50,867
Speaker 2: development of her bowling?

80
00:03:52,427 --> 00:03:54,587
Speaker 5: Finey, wouldn't you love to interview after a game?

81
00:03:54,947 --> 00:03:58,627
Speaker 4: Absolutely, there's no.

82
00:03:58,627 --> 00:04:00,587
Speaker 5: Word in need It isn't I think the interview says

83
00:04:00,587 --> 00:04:03,947
Speaker 5: at all. Yeah. I've had such a privilege to be

84
00:04:03,987 --> 00:04:06,587
Speaker 5: able to play with eating it this spark for a

85
00:04:06,787 --> 00:04:10,427
Speaker 5: number of years. But the one thing that people probably

86
00:04:10,467 --> 00:04:14,427
Speaker 5: outside of the team haven't seen is the last eighteen months,

87
00:04:14,467 --> 00:04:18,667
Speaker 5: the team has been overloaded on skill development, tactical development.

88
00:04:19,227 --> 00:04:21,467
Speaker 5: I've seen Eden Carson walk at her nets in tears

89
00:04:21,507 --> 00:04:23,947
Speaker 5: because she's made so much change to her bowling action.

90
00:04:24,107 --> 00:04:26,907
Speaker 5: And I think you think about a country girl from

91
00:04:26,987 --> 00:04:29,627
Speaker 5: ran fairly. You know, she used to be on the

92
00:04:29,667 --> 00:04:32,867
Speaker 5: farm before driving to Theneden to get to Sparks training,

93
00:04:32,947 --> 00:04:36,587
Speaker 5: and now she's had the benefit of that contracting period

94
00:04:36,667 --> 00:04:40,027
Speaker 5: and she's had a tough couple of years. She's really

95
00:04:40,067 --> 00:04:42,427
Speaker 5: had to push herself way beyond her comfort zone. And

96
00:04:43,467 --> 00:04:48,347
Speaker 5: there's just this heart, this massive heart in Eden, and

97
00:04:48,387 --> 00:04:51,187
Speaker 5: this massive caring factor that nobody sees. He's a real

98
00:04:51,587 --> 00:04:54,267
Speaker 5: little sensitive soul. She's a bit of a She's part

99
00:04:54,267 --> 00:04:56,107
Speaker 5: of the cool crew of the White Ferns, which are

100
00:04:56,107 --> 00:04:58,867
Speaker 5: the younger group, although Fusie would probably say she was

101
00:04:58,907 --> 00:05:01,867
Speaker 5: part of that group as well, but she just epitomizes

102
00:05:01,947 --> 00:05:06,227
Speaker 5: that humble, loyal, you know, do it for the team

103
00:05:06,427 --> 00:05:09,227
Speaker 5: sort of attitude. And it's just been so pleasing her

104
00:05:09,227 --> 00:05:13,147
Speaker 5: development and to see the success and the work probably

105
00:05:13,147 --> 00:05:14,747
Speaker 5: that she's done in the background that no one will

106
00:05:14,747 --> 00:05:16,667
Speaker 5: ever see. But her walking out in that field and

107
00:05:16,667 --> 00:05:19,227
Speaker 5: then walking back off, she knows deep down what she's

108
00:05:19,227 --> 00:05:21,707
Speaker 5: been thready to put herself in the best position possible.

109
00:05:21,747 --> 00:05:24,427
Speaker 5: So it's just so pleasing and so cool to see

110
00:05:24,707 --> 00:05:26,707
Speaker 5: as a former teammate and now someone that gets to

111
00:05:26,707 --> 00:05:30,027
Speaker 5: watch them pretty close up, just see how much she's

112
00:05:30,027 --> 00:05:33,147
Speaker 5: sort of realized her own skill and her own I

113
00:05:33,147 --> 00:05:34,467
Speaker 5: guess telling that she's got.

114
00:05:34,427 --> 00:05:35,347
Speaker 4: That's amazing insight.

115
00:05:35,467 --> 00:05:38,507
Speaker 2: Another of the youngsters, Georgia Plumber, she's been entrusted with

116
00:05:38,547 --> 00:05:41,507
Speaker 2: the responsibility of opening the batting. It's been a rocky

117
00:05:41,547 --> 00:05:43,147
Speaker 2: road too, hasn't it. What have you made though of

118
00:05:43,147 --> 00:05:45,627
Speaker 2: that move to move Georgia up to open and drop

119
00:05:45,667 --> 00:05:47,507
Speaker 2: Sophie Devine down to four for ten twenties.

120
00:05:49,107 --> 00:05:51,667
Speaker 5: I think it's probably the most spoken about most questions

121
00:05:51,787 --> 00:05:53,787
Speaker 5: that you get asters around who should open the batting

122
00:05:53,827 --> 00:05:58,547
Speaker 5: for New Zealand. And she's had something like thirty plus

123
00:05:58,547 --> 00:06:01,147
Speaker 5: games for New Zealand, really really struggled at the top.

124
00:06:01,187 --> 00:06:04,307
Speaker 5: And again she's someone that has been overloaded with that

125
00:06:04,387 --> 00:06:07,587
Speaker 5: development of his skill set. Means she struggled to bat

126
00:06:07,627 --> 00:06:10,067
Speaker 5: more than ten fifteen balls and domestic cricket over the

127
00:06:10,147 --> 00:06:12,667
Speaker 5: last few years. And I think I was just saying

128
00:06:12,707 --> 00:06:15,147
Speaker 5: this to someone before. I feel like there's three warm

129
00:06:15,227 --> 00:06:18,067
Speaker 5: up games against Australia, I shouldn't say them warm up games.

130
00:06:18,067 --> 00:06:20,227
Speaker 5: So the three games leading and has put that team

131
00:06:20,307 --> 00:06:23,147
Speaker 5: and especially her in such good stead that fifty she

132
00:06:23,227 --> 00:06:26,907
Speaker 5: saw it scored against Australia. You just saw her after

133
00:06:26,987 --> 00:06:30,187
Speaker 5: ten overs just relax and just we've always known that

134
00:06:30,227 --> 00:06:32,827
Speaker 5: she's had the talent. She's always looked really great and

135
00:06:33,307 --> 00:06:35,267
Speaker 5: it was just around finding a tempo in a way

136
00:06:35,307 --> 00:06:37,267
Speaker 5: to bat. And maybe tonight she's lost a little bit

137
00:06:37,267 --> 00:06:40,147
Speaker 5: of that composure, but she was still able to scrap

138
00:06:40,187 --> 00:06:44,027
Speaker 5: and fight, and anybody else Piney, I think that doesn't

139
00:06:44,067 --> 00:06:46,627
Speaker 5: have that same heart and resilience sort of really fallen

140
00:06:46,667 --> 00:06:50,387
Speaker 5: over at international cricket. There's so much external noises, so

141
00:06:50,467 --> 00:06:53,107
Speaker 5: many discussions about why she shouldn't be there and why

142
00:06:53,147 --> 00:06:55,507
Speaker 5: Sophie should be in that position and to be able

143
00:06:55,547 --> 00:06:58,187
Speaker 5: to continue that and actually, you know she's stood up

144
00:06:58,187 --> 00:07:00,507
Speaker 5: in the opening partnership Bates. He's probably struggled a bit

145
00:07:00,547 --> 00:07:03,587
Speaker 5: more around strike crade and George has been that senior

146
00:07:03,627 --> 00:07:06,827
Speaker 5: pro in terms of that well and police her from

147
00:07:06,827 --> 00:07:09,187
Speaker 5: a leadership perspective at the other end from Sydney Bates.

148
00:07:09,227 --> 00:07:12,747
Speaker 5: So it's so cool to see her smile and thrive

149
00:07:12,867 --> 00:07:15,267
Speaker 5: and after being under such enormous pressure.

150
00:07:15,547 --> 00:07:18,587
Speaker 4: Amazing. Well, they breed them tough in Tawa, as you know, Katie,

151
00:07:18,627 --> 00:07:19,467
Speaker 4: there's a few there.

152
00:07:19,547 --> 00:07:23,707
Speaker 5: Yeah, well you know, yes, Sophiels say that she baby

153
00:07:23,707 --> 00:07:26,267
Speaker 5: said all of them and she developed them their cricket skills.

154
00:07:26,267 --> 00:07:29,747
Speaker 5: But it's a weird place to her, isn't it great?

155
00:07:31,027 --> 00:07:31,387
Speaker 2: All right?

156
00:07:31,427 --> 00:07:33,427
Speaker 4: So South Africa? South Africa in the final.

157
00:07:33,667 --> 00:07:35,747
Speaker 2: That's three o'clock in the morning over here Monday morning

158
00:07:35,787 --> 00:07:36,867
Speaker 2: to a lot of people will be getting up to

159
00:07:36,907 --> 00:07:39,507
Speaker 2: watch someday for you. They've had a good tournament and

160
00:07:39,587 --> 00:07:41,347
Speaker 2: knocked the Australians off on the Seami's how do we

161
00:07:41,347 --> 00:07:43,707
Speaker 2: stack up against South Africa?

162
00:07:44,387 --> 00:07:47,267
Speaker 5: Isn't it Another chapter in New Zealand's sporting history with

163
00:07:47,387 --> 00:07:51,267
Speaker 5: the proces, whether it's in cricket or rugby. And I'll

164
00:07:51,267 --> 00:07:53,947
Speaker 5: be talking about that twenty fifteen men Sidney final for

165
00:07:53,987 --> 00:07:57,627
Speaker 5: the next two days and just made me say in

166
00:07:57,667 --> 00:07:59,667
Speaker 5: the word choke a couple of times, not too many,

167
00:07:59,787 --> 00:08:03,227
Speaker 5: but no, there they're really well led by Laura Wolf

168
00:08:03,227 --> 00:08:06,107
Speaker 5: but and I think they've had different players deep over

169
00:08:06,147 --> 00:08:09,067
Speaker 5: it up at different times. There a side that wears

170
00:08:09,067 --> 00:08:11,947
Speaker 5: their heart on their sleeve. They're passionate, but they're a

171
00:08:11,947 --> 00:08:14,467
Speaker 5: really skillful side. I think it's probably going to be

172
00:08:14,507 --> 00:08:17,667
Speaker 5: our bowlers come up against their batches, and I think

173
00:08:17,707 --> 00:08:21,027
Speaker 5: whoever wins that battle is a team that's be going

174
00:08:21,067 --> 00:08:24,467
Speaker 5: to get up on top. So I think, yeah, Marizon Cat,

175
00:08:24,467 --> 00:08:26,547
Speaker 5: we haven't seen too much of our and Chloe trying either,

176
00:08:26,667 --> 00:08:30,187
Speaker 5: so there are two really destructive players. And I think again,

177
00:08:30,227 --> 00:08:32,867
Speaker 5: it just comes down to those key, little crucial moments,

178
00:08:32,907 --> 00:08:35,227
Speaker 5: which way does it swing and however it takes that

179
00:08:35,307 --> 00:08:38,787
Speaker 5: and however hopefully catches a few more catches at the

180
00:08:38,827 --> 00:08:41,587
Speaker 5: outfit I think will be the winning side. But there's

181
00:08:41,707 --> 00:08:43,107
Speaker 5: no doubt going to be a lot of passion in

182
00:08:43,107 --> 00:08:43,507
Speaker 5: that game.

183
00:08:43,867 --> 00:08:45,347
Speaker 4: It's just one we can't wait for.

184
00:08:45,427 --> 00:08:47,467
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody, well not too many anyway, at

185
00:08:47,507 --> 00:08:49,667
Speaker 2: the start of the tournament expected New Zealand to be

186
00:08:49,707 --> 00:08:51,187
Speaker 2: there right at the end of the Grand Final, but

187
00:08:51,227 --> 00:08:54,187
Speaker 2: here we are, South Africa, New Zealand. Three o'clock Monday morning, Katie,

188
00:08:54,227 --> 00:08:55,907
Speaker 2: great to chat. Thanks for staying up late for us.

189
00:08:55,907 --> 00:08:56,947
Speaker 2: Really appreciate your time.

190
00:08:57,227 --> 00:08:58,307
Speaker 5: Thanks, Funny, appreciate it.

191
00:08:58,507 --> 00:08:59,387
Speaker 4: No, thank you, Katie.

192
00:08:59,427 --> 00:09:02,627
Speaker 2: Katy Martin there from the UAE where I don't know

193
00:09:02,667 --> 00:09:03,667
Speaker 2: what time it is, but.

194
00:09:03,587 --> 00:09:06,347
Speaker 4: She stayed up for us. Can we just celebrate the war?

195
00:09:06,387 --> 00:09:11,427
Speaker 2: Itphones into a World Cup final Monday morning at three o'clock.

196
00:09:11,467 --> 00:09:14,547
Speaker 2: They will play for silverware. They'll play South Africa.

197
00:09:15,547 --> 00:09:18,707
Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, Listen live

198
00:09:18,827 --> 00:09:22,107
Speaker 1: to News Talk set B weekends from midday, or follow

199
00:09:22,147 --> 00:09:23,747
Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio