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Speaker 1: Daily bespoke content that you won't find on the radio

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Speaker 1: show The DARKI Breakfast podcast.

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Speaker 2: So no, no, no, it's right to start the podcast here

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Speaker 2: if you just go down to on the sheet there

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Speaker 2: podcast from the Conclave, Lee Sherwan has put in and

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Speaker 2: surely Jerry has one of these. Just want your live

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Speaker 2: reaction to that. What what do you think about that

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Speaker 2: there that you can see? Describe it for the listeners.

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Speaker 3: It's a Sir Richard Haadley commemorative ball. It's a Handley

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Speaker 3: cricket ball, which were a terrible, terrible cricket balls. Actually,

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Speaker 3: I remember playing with a couple of years. They were

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Speaker 3: like rocks made in India. Yeah, and one of those

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Speaker 3: broke my bat. Yeah, shocking things. So they had like

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Speaker 3: a lacquer on the outside of them that used to

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Speaker 3: end up. It was almost like cellophane and racked and

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Speaker 3: kra can come away.

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Speaker 4: And they were filled with concrete. Yeah, terrible. I go,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to fucking earl if bomb of the podcast.

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Speaker 4: I got a cock abart a beat for Christmas. One

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Speaker 4: year was about twelve or even twelve went down the

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Speaker 4: park got embroiled in like a park cricket situation. These

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Speaker 4: fellows that were playing there had brought this Headley ball.

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Speaker 4: One of them got the thickest edge, took a chunk

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Speaker 4: out of the side of my brand new bear.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I almost when I went and visited him at Pegasus

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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, I almost bought it up.

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Speaker 3: It was like, mate, you were a fantastic cricketer, but

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Speaker 3: your range of cricket gear, your balls left a lot

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Speaker 3: to be desired. Considering that, if you're a true cricketing purist,

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Speaker 3: you should have been all over those balls and made

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Speaker 3: sure that they were essentially rebranded Koka barros or jerks

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Speaker 3: or something decent. Those things broke a lot of bats anyway,

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Speaker 3: And that's taking me back to that, to the to

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Speaker 3: the early nineties and those annoying balls. And also they

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Speaker 3: get a horrific bounce, like they bounce up on you shockingly.

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Speaker 4: Well because particularly off a artificial pitch, because you got

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Speaker 4: concrete on concrete, that's explosive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's what I'm looking at there.

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Speaker 4: I'm also looking.

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Speaker 3: At this follow through a beautiful follow for it is

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Speaker 3: a picture of him. There's a ball Handley crooked ball

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Speaker 3: signed by Richard Hadley. There's a picture above that of

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Speaker 3: him and what you were described as a slightly religious

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Speaker 3: shaped window. It's like something you might see as either

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Speaker 3: a mosque or a Catholic tabernacle.

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Speaker 4: He's also it's in the era of when they just

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Speaker 4: wore business shirts to play cricket. That was ridiculous, and

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Speaker 4: their boots were really bad for your knees.

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Speaker 3: I imagine they had actual leather soles with spikes and the

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Speaker 3: hard hardly the souls.

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Speaker 4: I remember my granddad had a pair of I don't

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Speaker 4: know if his boots or something, but they were out

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Speaker 4: in his garage. I used to look at these things

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Speaker 4: and how the funk that had them in Rugby boots. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the Rugby boots, Oh my god, the Rugby bots for

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Speaker 4: next level. Yeah, leather with like wooden soles on them,

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Speaker 4: and then studs screwed into the wood and it was like,

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Speaker 3: I know? I know, So that's what I'm looking at.

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Speaker 3: It's the Richard Harley, first baller to capture four hundred

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Speaker 3: Test works, that says, and then it's a commemorative and.

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Speaker 4: Then it's got all of his stats. So Test matches

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Speaker 4: eighty six, four hundred and thirty one wickets in an

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Speaker 4: That's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look at their first class record, jury, can you

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Speaker 2: can you make that out there? Three hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: two first class matches average eighteen Yeah, nearly fifteen hundred wickets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because that clothes obviously a lot of the county

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Speaker 4: I like that. It's got it's the names, it's got

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Speaker 4: the scalps down the side. Oh yeah, first wicket as Fickball,

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Speaker 4: one hundredth wicket Imraan kh two hundredth wicket Norman Cowans,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, world record, three sevent and fourth Test work, magic moments,

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Speaker 3: great bowler, great New Zealander. And oh that's something I

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Speaker 3: will Sir Richard.

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Speaker 4: Haby on the toilet paper.

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Speaker 3: Do we feel it's derivative for what we I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's always the thing when you hear something like that,

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Speaker 4: Derivative of what the Reckforce show? Yeah, yeah, I reckon.

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Speaker 4: I reckon it does I reckon?

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Speaker 3: But I always feel about silly saying things like that.

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Speaker 4: Have you asked them?

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Speaker 3: No, I've stopped. I feel about stink texting him.

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Speaker 2: I feel, well, didn't he stop texting you back?

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Speaker 4: Is that the problem?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because he started texting Stuart Broad Oh yeah, he did.

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Speaker 4: Shame Stuart Broad some essentially the same thing that I

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Speaker 4: The difference was Stuart Broad was actually going to do

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Speaker 3: Hey, excuse me me and I I used to have

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Speaker 3: a skip at the beginning of my run up, just

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Speaker 3: like Sir Richard Hardley. How many Test wickets did you take?

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Speaker 4: How many times did you play against Australia and Australia

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Speaker 4: with a teenage mutant ninja tootle headband around your head?

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Speaker 3: Well, I wonder whether I even took four hundred wickets.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I probably did. I don't think you

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Speaker 4: Nah, what if you included the backyard? Yeah no, no,

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Speaker 4: that doesn't count. But if you did, would you hit

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Speaker 3: It's going to be I once cheated it to this

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Speaker 3: that woman there, different woman was picking up her son

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Speaker 3: This is this is horrific. It is horrific.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Stuart Broad fifth most Test wickets even six

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Speaker 4: Yes, he's ahead of Hardley.

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon Handley gets.

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Speaker 4: Broad fucked off? How do you play a memo of

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Speaker 4: the game, dear you, great.

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Speaker 3: Bowler to a left hander, very good bowler to left

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Speaker 2: Eight for fifteen. He got once again Australia.

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Speaker 4: That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: But I used to cop a lot of abuse. This

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about cheating. You were gonna you're thinking about chedding?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's not trueman. I was not thinking about chanting.

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Speaker 3: What happened was we were discussing cheating, the idea of

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Speaker 4: Guys, what someone's gonna find out today that they are

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Speaker 4: won't see it tomorrow. I'm busy. Let's go out tonight

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Speaker 4: and celebrate thing day Valentine's Day. And then that's how

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Speaker 3: I want to know more, and you guys, can we

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Speaker 2: She always looks very suspicious when she's asked to come

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Speaker 3: You about just in terms of the dating scene, and

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Speaker 3: you're you're tied up. But how does it work in

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Speaker 3: What is there any framework around? How does it all work?

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Speaker 5: It's a lot more like casual these days. I think

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Speaker 5: you seeing anyone else? No, I'm not. And then and

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Speaker 4: Okay, because back in Jerry's day, you would be betrothed

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Speaker 3: And I think it was always assumed that if you

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Speaker 3: to put it bluntly, if you're having six with someone,

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Speaker 3: basically there was probably only one. If you're having sex

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Speaker 4: There's full dog.

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Speaker 3: Gars that was always considered pretty dog.

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Speaker 4: Is it still considered full dog as bro.

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Speaker 5: No, if you don't put the label on it, right,

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's all.

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Speaker 5: About though, what you say.

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Speaker 3: You think that if you're a girl and you got

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Speaker 3: some dog asked there that you that you're seeing, and

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Speaker 3: I'm clearly not that important to you.

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Speaker 5: Well, but what if that's not really the point?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys, that's a crazy loose man compared to

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Speaker 3: dating apps. I think the dating apps have changed everything.

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Speaker 3: I think that's where it's gone.

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Speaker 5: And you're not boyfriend and girlfriend either unless you say

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Speaker 5: your boyfriend and girlfriend. So exclusive is a different thing

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Speaker 5: to boyfriend and girlfriend. Oh yeah, you can say you're exclusive,

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Speaker 5: so you're not seeing anyone else, but you're still.

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Speaker 4: Not you're also not seeing them. What's sorry? What's the

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Speaker 4: what's the point that though?

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Speaker 5: I don't know, it's just to think.

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Speaker 4: Were you exclusively?

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Speaker 5: No? But that's something you I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Your boyfriend, your own boyfriend girlfriend situation? Yeah, okay, you're

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Speaker 4: So I would like to go through the stages if

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Speaker 4: you go to situationship, Yeah, situationships another talking on what

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Speaker 3: What is a situation?

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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm the gen Z translator because are

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Speaker 4: although even told you here in a bit of a situationship.

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Speaker 5: Situationships when you're together, but you're not together.

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Speaker 5: We're engaged a situation.

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Speaker 4: No, you're okay. So you go now as talking talking

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Speaker 5: It doesn't have to be.

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Speaker 4: It can be afterwards, it can be or they can

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Speaker 5: You can be going out your dating, you're actually going

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Speaker 5: on dates. You're sort of a situationship. He's still not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that comes after the talking stages, when you're

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Speaker 3: Stage, which you called it a start. I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: just it's just how my talking is a stage at all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're in a talking stage then, yeah, this is

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Speaker 4: maybe uh. And then you're in a situationship. Have you

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Speaker 5: It's not necessary to be in a situation.

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Speaker 4: Then you're entering into a little bit of an f

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Speaker 4: WB situation. What's that? Friends with benefits? Benefits can also

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Speaker 4: which is where you're just talking one person and that

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Speaker 3: That's horrible, so unrequired.

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Speaker 4: It isn't five of them at the moment. That's unrequired. Yeah, okay, unrequired.

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Speaker 4: So then and then you're going so you've been a

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Speaker 5: How you?

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Speaker 3: How would it normally take to get to these stages?

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Speaker 5: I think that really depends to the personally, Like for me, Jerry,

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Speaker 3: I'd say you fell in love on a bus. I

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Speaker 4: For it was an imaginationship.

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Speaker 2: I feel like mine would last for a couple of hours.

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Speaker 2: It comes love, then comes verge.

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Speaker 3: Then that's you're proposing.

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Speaker 5: I'd say about if you're going from talking stage too

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Speaker 5: to what situationship, situationship to exclusive, talking stage to exclusive,

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Speaker 5: talking stage to exclusive, that it's take a couple of months.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So as a parent of a young teenage daughter,

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Speaker 3: of months to get to that point before.

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Speaker 4: Your exclusive, before you exclusive.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if both parties are happies with it, happy with it,

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Speaker 3: Fun, and my experience is always one that's keener than

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Speaker 4: One hundred it has to be.

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Speaker 3: You can't be even it's impossible that it can be even.

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Speaker 5: Then. There's lots of theories about a floating around online

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Speaker 5: saying like the guy should always be like, if it's

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Speaker 4: But that's because girls are more likely to post on

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, oftentimes that girl might be more into the guy,

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Speaker 3: but then the girl won't tell the guy that that's

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Speaker 3: the case. I always found that frustrating. It's like, just

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Speaker 3: if you're into someone, then you're will be honest.

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Speaker 5: It's very confusing.

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Speaker 3: There is a lot of tree to man king keen

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Speaker 3: That's that's true.

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Speaker 2: Girls must have really wanted to keep me king.

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Speaker 3: A lot of unrequired. There's a lot of unrequired, a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of imaginationships.

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Speaker 2: What imagination?

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Speaker 4: What are the stages of imagination?

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Speaker 3: Ship?

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Speaker 2: When does the do paid?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm wondering that, and who pays the dowry?

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Speaker 3: Look, there's a lot to be said for a bloody

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Speaker 3: arranged marriage. I won't have them run down, No.

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Speaker 4: I told I have them run down. I spoke to

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Speaker 4: all right, and I'm on twelve year to Speckle Park,

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Speaker 4: ready to go when I get there, all right, So

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Speaker 4: as I'm taking a fucking headache off your hands, all right.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's a whole lot of stats on arranged

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Speaker 4: Not many, not many. But that's also a cultural thing.

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Speaker 4: I think if your parents have arranged it, then.

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Speaker 3: But maybe maybe some people are better at maybe families

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Speaker 3: It's only recently that we've changed it's.

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Speaker 4: A situationship into exclusive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so we go back where are we at?

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Speaker 5: And then again, such situationship can be exclusive.

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Speaker 4: You can have an exclusive situation and shure, I would

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Speaker 5: But again it's a stage. An exclusive is like the

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Speaker 5: Breaker, yeah, but still kind of a breakout.

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Speaker 4: That's a breaker someone else at that point, but you

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Speaker 5: No, you just sort of ghost. I think, can you

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Speaker 3: Can you go to an exclusive and then go, you

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Speaker 3: know what, I don't know about this anymore. I'm all

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Speaker 4: Or is that always? But no, I think that's kind

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Speaker 4: isn't it that you're not doing that?

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Speaker 2: But then there's the horrible situation that I've definitely been

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Speaker 4: You love her. Let's say you love her.

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Speaker 2: Let's say you're in love with her and she's number five,

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Speaker 4: And she's number five.

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Speaker 2: So I guess, you know, I guess that's that. I

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Speaker 2: because then even numbers, you've got two options.

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Speaker 4: You get out, you peg up your stuff and you

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Speaker 2: I can, I reckon, I can work on this.

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Speaker 4: I what what do you you would have.

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Speaker 2: Definitely try and keep it and keep it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe she'll change your mind. If I write a song

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Speaker 3: that happened, that happened, maybe some of this poetry that

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Speaker 2: I mean they appreciate it. That's no, No, that's really nice.

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Speaker 5: I have friends who've had songs written for them, and

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Speaker 4: Do they send Do they send it to me?

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Speaker 4: And then you guys will roast.

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Speaker 3: Them in the God No, that would have happened to you.

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Speaker 2: I know, Well there was no group chats around that

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Speaker 4: But you're doing it. And then while we were so

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you go to me? He got a no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: Have you do you ever fiance?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, partner? That's another one. Well, I've been calling

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Speaker 4: And every now and then you hear that, you get that,

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Speaker 3: I love feeding into that. The partner thing is an

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I felt that my own chat.

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Speaker 4: When I got engaged to my fiance. My mate messaged

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know. And I do feel like

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Speaker 4: What are you? Also he said no, I'm gonna get

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Speaker 4: us both kicked off this fucking plane.

442
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Speaker 5: There were you trading him in middle seat.

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Speaker 4: I was trading him in ale and he was in

444
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Speaker 4: the front row. And he explained it to her. He

445
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Speaker 4: had actually paid for business class and they overbooked it,

446
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Speaker 4: so he got bumped back to cattle class with us,

447
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Speaker 4: and then they gave him the extra league room and

448
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Speaker 4: he was just like, so, I've actually overpaid for the seats.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to swap with you, Okay, I can't

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Speaker 4: hit him. We've both got supported Wow. Yeah, but that's love.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what love can do, man, That is and.

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Speaker 4: Then you go marriage child early divorce, yeah, complex split

453
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Speaker 4: family situation. Yeah, into much younger woman in my fifties,

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Speaker 4: your fifties.

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Speaker 3: Whatever we get to here, I feel like it's become

456
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Speaker 3: way more complex. I think the communication methods have created

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Speaker 3: that complexity.

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Speaker 4: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 5: Again, it's all very like based on who it is though, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: the type of person you are, and if you're that

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Speaker 5: way in kind or not. You know, yeah, everyone has

462
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Speaker 5: their own.

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Speaker 3: Because yep, well no, totally. And I think that there

464
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Speaker 3: is that part of it as well. And some people

465
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Speaker 3: are like we just we just want to have a

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Speaker 3: good time, and you.

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Speaker 5: Know, its like people girlfriend and that's fine too, yeah,

468
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Speaker 5: you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And well when I was a high school phone

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Speaker 4: cell phones had just come in, so people you would

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Speaker 4: have we called them text relationships. So there were people

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Speaker 4: who you never see them talk together at high school,

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Speaker 4: but then they're texting each other all the time, and

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Speaker 4: they were they called themselves boyfriend and girlfriend, but you

475
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Speaker 4: but they basically didn't interact with each other.

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Speaker 3: Did any of those people ever get hooked up and

477
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Speaker 3: get married?

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so. Nah,

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Speaker 4: so yeah, but yeah, there were there were text relationships

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Speaker 4: going on.

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Speaker 3: I think texts have been really good for if you're

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Speaker 3: a bit.

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Speaker 4: Shy and you want to ask someone out.

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Speaker 3: I think the text has really saved those people because

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Speaker 3: that used to.

486
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Speaker 4: Be quite a quite a big thing.

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Speaker 3: To have to overcome as a as a guy. Remember that,

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Speaker 3: you know, growing up we didn't have texts, so when

489
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Speaker 3: so you'd have to call someone up and say, yes,

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Speaker 3: it was.

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Speaker 4: Hard, man, it was.

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Speaker 3: I feel it actually was good for your mental toughness

493
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Speaker 3: and and it was definitely guys asking girls out. It

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Speaker 3: was quite traditional in that sense. You never really.

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Speaker 5: Got a romantic that way. Then sliding into someone, yeah, it.

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Speaker 4: Was ballsy Smith.

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Speaker 3: You have to get past the appearents as well on

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Speaker 3: the landline.

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Speaker 4: Sera Smith's one of Jeffs mates. Don't that's not so?

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Speaker 3: It was quite that was quite full on that. And

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Speaker 3: also you'd have to do a lot of guesswork. Person

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Speaker 3: like me, I think she likes me. You left a

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Speaker 3: lot on the table that way. Jesus put a lot

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Speaker 3: left alon on the table because you'd be like, you

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Speaker 3: give me no signs at all, I'm not she obviously

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Speaker 3: might me, and then you find out years later she

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Speaker 3: really liked you, Like.

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Speaker 4: Is there anything worse than that fighting out a few

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Speaker 4: years later. What if it killed her to tell me, yeah,

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Speaker 4: she was really into you back there?

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Speaker 3: What really?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's off on the way I could have told

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Speaker 4: me then I could have slept a few more nights.

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Speaker 5: Yes, you wanted to go out with me years no.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no.

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Speaker 3: But definitely a lot of a lot of embarrassing love letters. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: embarrassing because that was your only that was your only

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Speaker 3: way writing.

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Speaker 5: As now it's like what he posted on Instagram story

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Speaker 5: about me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now there was no complexity, none of that crap.

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Speaker 4: Well, we had Bibo back then. Honestly, my I would

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Speaker 4: rather my fucking search history got published than my Bibo

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Speaker 4: got reactivated. I would crunch so hard from like what

525
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Speaker 4: thirteen to fourteen year old and back in the day,

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Speaker 4: boys and girls would have like a joint if they

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Speaker 4: were if they're exclusive, they'd make a joint Bibo account. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So to take the person out of that, man, my

529
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Speaker 4: mate Gus made a joint Bibo account Gus M and I,

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Speaker 4: and then people would have to guess who they were

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Speaker 4: messaging at the top. But at that time, you could put.

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Speaker 5: Your glass exclusive. Were you and Gus exclusive?

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Speaker 4: I didn't want to put terms on it. We we had

534
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Speaker 4: this exclusion, and then you could make quizzes for your

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Speaker 4: friends to do online.

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Speaker 3: You guys were just if buddies man.

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Speaker 4: And then well, wait, do you hear what we did

538
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Speaker 4: on that page. All we did was make quizzes about

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Speaker 4: how hot Met Ghetto was. And so we'd ask all

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Speaker 4: these questions on this quiz and the answer was always

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Speaker 4: Matt Ghetto. I don't know why it was back in

542
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Speaker 4: the day, but you could. You could list your first

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Speaker 4: In fact, you had to list your top eight friends

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Speaker 4: or nine or something eight I think it was. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so all of all the friends that you had, you

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Speaker 4: had to list the top eight in order. And I

547
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Speaker 4: remember falling out with a high school girlfriend because she

548
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Speaker 4: put another dude at number one, and I was like,

549
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Speaker 4: who fuck? Yes, turns out how batter for the other team,

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Speaker 4: I had nothing to worry about.

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Speaker 3: Well, that Matt probably was why they were through in

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Speaker 3: the no threat.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I still perceived a threat. Raise my antlas.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, should we knock this one on the head.

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Speaker 2: Just imagining hanging out with people at winds Now and

556
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Speaker 2: saying you're friends with benefits. I've been sitting on that

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Speaker 2: for about twenty minutes.

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