1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: early edition with ex pole insulation, keeping Kimi Holmes warm 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: and try this winter News Talks there'd be well. 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Thank you so much for choosing 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: the program. I'm Andrew Dickens coming up over the next 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 2: sixty minutes. An early edition. The government decides to hoe 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: into AI. Now are they too late? What can they do? 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: And should we just let the private economy run it. 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Business New Zealand in about 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: five minutes time. The French rugby side give the gallic 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: shrug to Hamilton. They want to stay in orcan so? 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: Howurs Hamilton's mayor Feitling about that the extinct giant flightless 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: more might have another chance to roam the range. And 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: Sharon Zola from the A and Z talks to me 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: about the cash right. We'll have correspondence from around the 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: world and around New Zealand. Use as it brakes and 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: you can have your say by sending me a text. 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: The number is ninety two ninety two. Small charge applies. 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: If you want. You can see me an email Dickens 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: at News Talks here b co dot Z it's eight 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: minutes oter five. 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: The agenda. 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's Wednesday, the ninth of July, and King Charles 24 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: has welcomed French President Emmanuel Macron for the UK's first 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: state visit by European leader since Brexit. The Macrons were 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: greeted run off the plane by Prince William and Princess Kate, 27 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: and there was all the pomp and pageantry Britain could 28 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: put on and looked amazing. The President then headed to 29 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: the Palace of Westminster, where he talked to MPs. 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: And it is a very great honor to speak before 31 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: the two houses of the British Parliament, a place composed 32 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 3: of both the High Chamber and the Lord Chamber, a 33 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: place of history by bone and the historians, making the 34 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: place where modern democracy emerged and the principles of democratic 35 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: representation and consint were born. 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: Oh, he is charming. Macron has described Francis relationship with 37 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: the UK as a brotherhood of arms, which had always 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: has been, except when they were at war with each other. Obviously, 39 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: and staying in Europe is heart so storing temperatures continue to 40 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: grip the continent. The city of Athens or shut at 41 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: Citadel from one till five local time in the afternoon, 42 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: as highs of forty two degrees celsius forecasts and a 43 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: category for wildfire warning is in place. 44 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 4: The health concerns are very serious, as temperatures in several 45 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 4: parts of Greece exceed forty degrees celsius in those hours 46 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 4: where the sun is the strongest, So it's very important 47 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 4: that people avoid being outside when it's not absolutely necessary. 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: Authority set the closures for the safety of workers and 49 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: visitors alike. And in the United States, an impostor pretending 50 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,559 Speaker 2: to be the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, used AI 51 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 2: to call high level officials. They contacted foreign ministers, they 52 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: contacted a governor, they contacted members of Congress. They used 53 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: voice and text messages that mimicked Rubio's speaking style. 54 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 5: When asked about the cable by The Washington Post, the 55 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 5: State Department responded that it would quote carry out a 56 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 5: thorough investigation and continue to implement safeguards to prevent this 57 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 5: from happening in the future. 58 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: At this stage, we don't know who's behind the scam, 59 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: and that is the threat by the way of AI, 60 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: and we're talking about AI very shortly. It's ten after 61 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: five news Talk Zidby on behalf of Aucland. I'd like 62 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: to apologize for the ongoing soap opera which is the 63 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: debate about the city's stadiums. It's been going on forever, 64 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: but as a symptom of New Zealand's general ad hoc 65 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: stands when it comes to the development of anything, we 66 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: wing it. We stumble forward building stuff or not building 67 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: stuff based on the problems of the past, but not 68 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: the opportunities of the future. The backers of AUCLANDFC have 69 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: pulled out of this sporting precinct development they dreamed up 70 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: for Western Springs. They cite the problems of dealing with 71 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: public land, which is understandable. Anyone who puts three hundred 72 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: million dollars worth of capital improvements on land they don't 73 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: own would be getting the wobbles. Plus, after a season 74 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: where they sold out a twenty five thousand seaters stadium 75 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: week after week after week, the idea of building something 76 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: that holds half that I always thought was interesting. Now, 77 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: if you have a long memory, you may remember the 78 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: council first thought that the Springs would make a great 79 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: crickets venue, which it would, but somehow they've lost that 80 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: nerve on that. I mean, have you heard any mention 81 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 2: about cricket there No, And while this bumbles on Mount 82 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: Smart or Go Media Stadium. When z accolades last year, 83 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: it was the ward for being the best large venue 84 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: of the year based on its success with AUK, the FC, 85 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: the Warriors and rock concerts. And yet Mount Smart is 86 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: a broken down wreck with a temporary stand made of 87 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: scaffolding which they built for an edge shearing concert which 88 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 2: then just stayed and stayed and stayed, no roof and 89 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 2: at wobbles. So where are we. Let's do something. Let's 90 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: just fix up eating park for a big test. And 91 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: since it's owned by a trust, not the city, then 92 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: maybe they should be finding a bit more private money 93 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: for it. Let ORC and the f C take over, 94 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: say North Harbor Stadium. They trained the it's the right size. 95 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: Let pons, rugby and concert promoters take over Western Springs. 96 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: All bring back cricket and we'll see how that works. 97 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: But for God's sake, show some love for Mount Smart. 98 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: It's done the hard yards and it proved that it works. 99 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: Sort of. 100 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: News talk, said B. 101 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: So you heard about the AI impersonating Marco Rubio. You've 102 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: seen THEAI everywhere. I'm using it more and more instead 103 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: of using Google, but the government's not really had a 104 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: strategy about it. Yesterday Shane Retti came up with a 105 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: strategy and so we're starting to move forward. Are we 106 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: too late? We're going to talk to Business New Zealand 107 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: and Katherine Beard next about AI on News Talk ZBB. 108 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the Headlines on Early Edition with Andrew 109 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: Dickins and ex Pole installation Keeping Kiwi Holmes Warm and 110 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: Dry this winter News Talk Sat B. 111 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: So this week we've seen debate about whether Desindra A. 112 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: Durn should turn up in front of the Commission of 113 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: Inquiry into COVID. Yesterday that moved on to chris Hip 114 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: Dans who was noncommittal about turning up. He's going to 115 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: do some written responses, but he was very noncommittal about 116 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 2: actually turning up for a decent cross examination. Should Chrishipkins 117 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: be turning up, you can text me ninety two ninety two. Meanwhile, 118 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: the release of the government's first AI strategy outlines how 119 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: the technology can be used to boost productivity. Science, Innovation 120 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: and Technology Minister Doctor Shane Letty says private industries that 121 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: adoption of AI could boost New Zealand's GDP by seventy 122 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: six billion dollars. So Katherin Baird is Business new Zealand's 123 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: advocacy director and joins me right now, good morning to you, Katherine, 124 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: Good morning. So what do you reckon the government's thinking 125 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:42,559 Speaker 2: about AI. 126 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 6: Look, I think it's really great to have a strategy released. 127 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 6: You know, business wants to know how the government is 128 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 6: going to treat it in terms of legislation, and when 129 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 6: they get some clarity around that, that sort of gives 130 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 6: them more confidence to invest in the team. 131 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 7: Really, So yeah, we think. 132 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 8: It's a good approach. 133 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 6: It's a reasonably light handed approach, and it's you know, 134 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 6: based on current legislation that we already have things like 135 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 6: the Privacy Act, Consumer Rights and Human Rights so they 136 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 6: will all continue to be in place, and they are 137 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 6: technology neutral, so they'll be sort of the guidelines. 138 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: So it's important to have our regulatory ducks in a 139 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: row before we plunge in. But some might be saying 140 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: a hands off approach might be the best way to 141 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: just let private industry do it. I mean some of 142 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: them are already started. 143 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 9: Yeah. 144 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 6: Look, absolutely, there's a lot of businesses using AI currently 145 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 6: but I think business also wants to be doing it 146 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 6: responsibly because you know, to successfully use the technology, you 147 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 6: need to have consumer trust and we need to be 148 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 6: looking after people's data and their privacy. So business will 149 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 6: be completely up for that. But yeah, look, the productivity 150 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 6: potential is fantastic. 151 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: So who are already using AI? I understand large businesses 152 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: have hoed in, but small businesses are a bit more reluctant. 153 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, that looks to be the case. So the material 154 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 6: that they've released shows that our small businesses have a 155 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 6: lower uptake than say Australian small business So that is 156 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 6: a bit of a concern because we don't want to 157 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,559 Speaker 6: get left behind and we are a country of small 158 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 6: businesses and so to boost their productivity we do need 159 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 6: them to really embrace it. So I think in the 160 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 6: strategy there's some plans to you know, support small business 161 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 6: on that kind of digital journey and we certainly welcome that. 162 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: Is this seventy six billion dollar GDP hit? Was it 163 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: an exaggeration or is that true? 164 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 7: Look? 165 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 6: I think people are being quite blown away about the potential. 166 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 6: And you know, one of the one of the companies 167 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 6: in the material as an example is Halter, which is 168 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 6: that fantastic new company that's doing you know cows. Yeah, yes, absolutely, 169 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 6: So that's that's a really great example. You know, they 170 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 6: use AI and that technology, they you know, getting rid 171 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 6: of electric fences and apparently that's a billion dollar company 172 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 6: already in its valuation, and it's I think it's only 173 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 6: really been around for about five years. So you know, 174 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 6: if New Zealand can like have the creativity and innovation 175 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 6: and use the technology to do that kind of business, 176 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 6: then you know, a great a great future. 177 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: True. Absolutely, Now we could get a GDP boost, but 178 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: what might it mean for employment numbers? Might we be 179 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: making loads of money but have very few jobs. 180 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, people are concerned about the job market. I think 181 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 6: if we look at history and the introduction of new technology, 182 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 6: there will be jobs destroyed, but there will also be 183 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 6: jobs created. And we you know, often the jobs that 184 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 6: are taken out of of you know, with this new 185 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 6: technolo jia that sort of repetitive, dull, boring and sometimes 186 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 6: dangerous jobs. So yeah, we think people will be able 187 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 6: to use it. People should embrace the technology, know how 188 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 6: to use it and make it part of their you 189 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 6: know why they're a great employee because they know how 190 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 6: to use it and they can increase their productivity. 191 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: Well, Catherine, here comes the future. Brace yourself. It's inevitable, 192 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: as Thanos said, and I thank you for your time today, 193 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: Catherine Beard, who's Business New Zealand's advocacy director. It is 194 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: nineteen minutes after five. So Hamilton gets a test first 195 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: time in three years, and it's the all backs versus France. 196 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: But then France turns around and says, made, no, we 197 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: do not want to stay in Hamilton. We want to 198 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: stay in the nice hotels up in Auckland with the 199 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 2: good restaurants. So how is the mayor of Hamilton feeling 200 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: about that attitude? Well, Paula Southgate is with. 201 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: Me next on your radio and online on iHeartRadio early 202 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and ex full Insulation Keeping Keeley 203 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: homes warm and dry. This winter news talk se'd be it's. 204 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: Five twenty one, Colin writes Andrew Shirley. All these main 205 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 2: players in the COVID response should have received summons to 206 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 2: appear weeks ago. Yeah, Colin, but it's not like a 207 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: legal thing. It's a Royal Commission of Inquiry. They get 208 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: invited so they can actually decide whether they're turning up 209 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: or not. More on this in a moment, and Kate 210 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: from the Wilder Upper says, read chippy. Of course the 211 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: main party should all be there. It's a royal inquiry. 212 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: If the tables were turned and the tone of the 213 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: fightings weren't so grim, you can bet your bottom dollar 214 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: that will be there taking the credit. That coward's shame 215 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: on them, Thank you, Kate. 216 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 5: Right. 217 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 2: The French rugby team has snubbed staying in Hamilton ahead 218 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: of the showdown of their tour with the All Blacks 219 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: the third Test. The squad will stay in Auckland until 220 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: just two days before the final match due to the 221 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: world class facilities and the accommodation available in the city 222 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: of Sales. Nevertheless, le Bleau will take on the national 223 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 2: squad at a sold out game at FMG Stadium on 224 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: Saturday the nineteenth. And I'm sure she's going to be there. 225 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: The mayor of Hamilton is Paula Southgate and she joins me, Now, 226 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: how the Paula. 227 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 7: Good morning, and I absolutely am going to be there. 228 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: Now your response to the French rugby team, can you 229 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 2: swear in French? 230 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 7: I know I can't, can't well, and I wouldn't. 231 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: Good on you. You had more classes than they. What 232 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: would you like to say to them? 233 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 7: Oh, look, I'm not too bothered about it, to be 234 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 7: quite honest. We've got a fully sold out stadium, so 235 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 7: we've got people coming into town to have a good time. 236 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 7: They're going to spill out into our businesses and support 237 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 7: our hospitality in retail. I know we've got fantastic accommodation offer, 238 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 7: and I know we've got a fantastic stadium, so I 239 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 7: think it's a little bit more of their lost for hours. 240 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: If this becomes a bit of a trend though, if 241 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: the word gets out to international teams around the world, 242 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: does it hurt the city's ability to host big games 243 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: going forward? After all, this is the first test you've 244 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: had for three years now. 245 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 7: I don't believe it does. Look, we had FIFA in 246 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 7: last year. We hosted FIFA at Women's World Cup. They 247 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 7: said to me directly that are hosting was some of 248 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 7: the best they had in the whole time they were away. 249 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 7: They were very, very pleased with the facilities at our stadium, 250 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 7: with the changing facilities, with the training facilities around town, 251 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 7: and had no issues staying in Hamilton either. Look, you know, 252 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 7: I know, we're a great city with lots to offer. 253 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 7: I think it's a French's loss and our game. 254 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: What have they lost? I mean, what are they missing 255 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: out on by not staying in Hamilton? Obviously a trip 256 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 2: to the gardens. 257 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 7: Oh, obviously a trip to gardens number one Trip Advisor 258 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 7: traveler attraction in New Zealand. So that's that's something that 259 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 7: they should have come down to see for sure. But look, 260 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 7: you know, Hamilton's an easygoing city. We've got all that 261 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 7: you need here. We've got great hotels, we've got a 262 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 7: great stadium. As I say, we haven't got the traffic congestion. 263 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 7: It's easy to move around. It's nice and quiet, and 264 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 7: you know, I think they would have had a very 265 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 7: relaxing time and being they were a good form for 266 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 7: the game. 267 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: They should have gone for a run around the lake. 268 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: We never go to Hamilton go for a walk around 269 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: the lake. It's very, very pretty now you say that, 270 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: you sit pretty. 271 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 7: And the river Park Riverway as well. 272 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: Of course, there's a lovely parade down the river and 273 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: you go past us spit fire and it's all good. Hey, 274 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: are you still the fastest growing city in the country? 275 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: Or has christ it's taken over that mantle. 276 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 7: No, as far as I know, we're still the fastest 277 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 7: between the fastest for the last two years, and the 278 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 7: demographers that I speak to, all these population experts, as 279 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 7: far as they can tell us that we probably will 280 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 7: be for another two to five years. It's all happening 281 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 7: here in Hamilton. And actually, you know, I think sometimes 282 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 7: people forget that we're a city that's come of age 283 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 7: and we've got a lot of really great things going 284 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 7: on here and as I say, easy living, easy to 285 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 7: get around, friendly people. But at the end of the 286 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 7: day with the French, it doesn't matter because we're going 287 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 7: to beat them on the pitch. 288 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: Hey, Paul, great, I probably should have charged you for that, 289 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: and but there we go. Poor the south Gate Mayor 290 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: of Hamilton. He's to talk to five twenty. 291 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: Five Early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by 292 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: News Talks at ME five seven. 293 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: So Chris Hipkins was on Kerry Woodhams Show yesterday, also 294 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: with Ryan Bridges on a streaming show on the Herald 295 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: dot co dot in z and he talked about the 296 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: COVID inquiry and he insinuated that the inquiry had been 297 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: slanted against Labor because New Zealand First is now part 298 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: of a national government and had drawn up the scope 299 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: of the inquiry to benefit them. It also came out 300 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: that he has drafted written responses to the questions the 301 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: Commission might ask of him, but he is noncommittal about 302 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: fronting up for a verbal grilling, a good cross examination. 303 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: Now also on the table is Justindre a Durn who 304 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: doesn't look like showing despite the wish of many for 305 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 2: her to be held to account. But the thing about 306 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: this commission is that it is not a trial. It's 307 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: an inquiry. It's a show trial. Really, it's a political thing, 308 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: and Chris Hipkins is still in the political game, unlike 309 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: to Sindra Adern, so he needs to handle this thing well. 310 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: He was the Minister of Health during the pandemic. In fact, 311 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: he was the minister of just about everything because he 312 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: would the most competent in his party. So if he 313 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: wants to be the leader of this party going into 314 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: the next election, he really must turn up and face 315 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: that cross examination of what he was part of. But 316 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: we know what he did, it's already there in black 317 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: and white. But what we don't know is the thought 318 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: processes that drove his actions and we haven't had the 319 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: chance to question him. And what we don't know is 320 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: his thoughts with hindsight as to what he might have 321 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: done better. So if he's honest about learning lessons about 322 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: the pandemic management, because there's going to be another pandemic 323 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: in the future, then he really must turn up and 324 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: face the heat. It'll be good for him, it'll be 325 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: good for us. If he doesn't, the conspiracy theorists that 326 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: he mentioned yesterday will bring all their bias to bear 327 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: against him next election. So Chris Hipkins has choices face 328 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: up and tell the truth, stand apart and let speculation 329 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: of what he calls or buy what he calls conspiracy 330 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: theorists run wild, or just quit, quit his aspiration to 331 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: become prime Minister one more time, and enjoy a retirement 332 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: from public life. S in your Courts news Talk said 333 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: b five twenty nine. Les Miserabla, that's Les Blue. They 334 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,239 Speaker 2: send their seed team to beat our AB's and then 335 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: they snub Hamilton. They're lucky they are not playing in 336 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: Parmesan nor Today's Bonker's idea is Sir Peter Jackson and 337 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: some guys in America wanting to resurrect the mar I'll 338 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 2: give you some details on that in a few moments time. 339 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: The big news today is what will the Reserve Bank 340 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: do and with the official cash rate? And how is 341 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 2: our economy? Some thoughts about that a bit later on 342 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: as well. You've got early edition. I'm Andrew Dickinson for 343 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: Rian Bridge. This is news Talk set b ad on 344 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: a cardoies not to celebrate. 345 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: News and views you trust to start your day. It's 346 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens at expol Insulation keeping Kiwi 347 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: Holmes warm and dry. This winter news talk said by. 348 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 9: Me, don't you win the body? 349 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 10: I can do this all to be done to dul 350 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 10: Good morning on the baby BOSTEO. 351 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: Good morning, Welcome to your Wednesday. I'm Andrew Dickinson for 352 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge. Now, as you heard with Neva, today's bonkers 353 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: story is that Sir Peter Jackson and Ita who have 354 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 2: joined forces to genetically engineer a return of the more 355 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: that big flightless bird that went extinct six hundred years 356 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: ago as Mary hunted them into extinction. And they teamed 357 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: up with the American company humbly called Colossal Biosciences, and 358 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: they reckon they've got enough DNA from caves to be 359 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: able to resurrect the bird within a decade, and Peter 360 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: Jackson has so far put in ten million dollars Currently, 361 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 2: COLSS of Biosciences are well. They brought back the dire 362 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: wolf you heard that with Neva, but they're also working 363 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 2: to bring back the wooly mammoth, while also working towards 364 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: the resurrection of the Tasmanian tiger and of course the Dodo. 365 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 2: So this month, that company is based in Techno, Texas, 366 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: announced it had genetically engineered some wooly mice. Now, boys, 367 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 2: mouse is a long way from an elephant, but fair 368 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: play to here. Now what could possibly go wrong? Hey? 369 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: Is Jurassic Park becoming true the way Terminator is coming 370 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: true with the rise of AI. Scientists have already been 371 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: warning of the unintended consequences of this whole project. They 372 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: did that back in March. For instance, if the more 373 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: ever got out of the wild, I mean, who wants 374 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 2: to bump into an angry ten foot high bird while 375 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 2: on a tramp? What would they eat? Where would they go? 376 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: Could they run through our cities? The scientists have also 377 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 2: warned about resurrecting the hasted eagle because with a tongue 378 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: in cheek fair to say, they say that children could 379 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: be plucked away by the giant extinct eagle. It's all 380 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: the glorious waste of money by people who have too 381 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: much money and too much time. For God's sake, Peter, 382 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: just make a film. But of course there's one question 383 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: we're all asking about the more. What do they taste like? 384 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 2: And how do you cook them? Because I think you'll 385 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: find the more is too big for my oven. Heather's 386 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 2: talking about this at seven to fifty this morning. It's 387 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: twenty one to six News Talk said, be around the country. 388 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: We go Callen Proctor in Dunedin. 389 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 11: Hello, Wading Andrew. 390 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: So there's a bit of a reorganization of Southend councils 391 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: that's being investigated. 392 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 11: It's been looked at by the Local Government Commission. This 393 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 11: follows South and Mere's proposal last August to reorganize local 394 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 11: government into two unitary authorities here one rural base and 395 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 11: one for Invercargol City. The Commissions agreed to investigate this 396 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 11: initiative after consulting with the authorities affected by the reorganization. 397 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 11: South and Mere. Rob Scott's welcoming this news. He says 398 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 11: there is need for change in their local government south 399 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 11: and does deserve relevant representation. He says that's connected to 400 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 11: their communities more efficient and also more affordable. 401 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 2: And how is Otago's weather. 402 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 11: It's cloudy and windy, fresh nor easterly today morning drizzle. 403 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 11: The highth of Duneda is ten today. 404 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 2: And I thank you Claire Sherwood from Christian's joins a 405 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 2: good morning, good morning. How many of the current Christiach 406 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: City council is a seeking reelection? 407 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 12: Well news talks s head Beacon today reveal all of 408 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 12: the current sixteen christ City councilor is a seeking re 409 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 12: election next year, well this year rather. 410 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 13: In some form now. 411 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 12: The majority of the city councilors want to retain their seat. 412 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 12: There is Heathkit Counselor Sarah Templeton, though she's giving up 413 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 12: her council seat and throwing everything at a mayoralty bid 414 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 12: up against the incumbent mayor film Major. The central ward 415 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 12: is also heating up. That's where we've got former city 416 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 12: councilor and the Opportunities Party leader Rath Mangi making a 417 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 12: bid to unseat the incumbent Jake McClellan in Innis. We've 418 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 12: got Allie Jones looking to topple Paulnecotter. That will be 419 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 12: one to watch because Alie only missed out by eight 420 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 12: votes in twenty twenty two for that seat. We've also 421 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 12: got vocal housing density opponent Tony Simon's going up against 422 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 12: Tyler Harrison Hunt and Ricketton and of course Newstalks s 423 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 12: head B's a former broadcaster, James Daniels is eyeing a 424 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 12: seat Mackett Council in the coastal Ward. That's four years 425 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 12: after he sparked a sixty five thousand dollars by election 426 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 12: when he resigned. 427 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: So how to Canterbury's weather cloudy. 428 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 12: Again today a few showers expected, northeasterly, strong and exposed 429 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 12: places and high of teen. 430 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 2: We're joined by Max Toll from Wellington. HELLIMEX, good morning, gee, 431 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 2: this has just going This story is so slow. New 432 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: details of Kirie Ellen's crash, which happened sometime in the past, 433 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 2: have just been revealed. 434 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 435 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 9: Well look, our newsroom has been trying to get this 436 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 9: released for more than a year and police have finally 437 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 9: relented amid intervention by the Ombudsman. I should say and 438 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 9: police now except it is in the public's interest to 439 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 9: know more about what happened that night in Wellington events 440 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 9: that led to Kirie Allen's resignation. Of course, amid Labour's 441 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 9: election campaign. We already knew she blew over the limit 442 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 9: after crashing her car around Oriental Bay. We now know 443 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 9: via police that she spoke to officers and said she 444 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 9: was not the driver, said she wanted to speak to 445 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 9: her lawyer, refused to accompany officers for testing and was 446 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 9: hence handcuffed. Alan also was verbally abusive, according to police, 447 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 9: grabbed onto shrubbery, a tree or a bush at one 448 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 9: point to avoid being moved to the police car. At 449 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 9: the station. She was then handed a court summons, but 450 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 9: refused to accept it and then refused to leave the 451 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 9: station until the court summons disappeared. She also accused police 452 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 9: of charging her as a political stunt at that time. 453 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 9: Media have contacted Allan for comments. She was eventually fined 454 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 9: for careless driving, order to pay reparation and convicted and 455 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 9: discharged on a charge of refusing to accompany. 456 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: How's Wellington's weather cloudy with. 457 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 9: A few showers twelve the high Central and. 458 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: Neva ritten man who joins me from Auklandella and Neva 459 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: good morning. So apparently there's some dropkeecks who think her 460 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 2: fun Friday night is wrecking in historic cemetery. 461 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 14: I know this is just an outrage, isn't it? 462 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: So? 463 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 14: Yes, the vandalism. This is of historic graves at Auckland, 464 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 14: Saint Stephen's Chapel and Parnell. Now the very Reverend Ann 465 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 14: Mills says that there's about a dozen headstones and are 466 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 14: made of marble and sandstone. They were pushed over, shattered. 467 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 14: Auckland Council says this is just disgraceful and anyone with 468 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 14: information to contact police, and Mills says, for years, you know, 469 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 14: these graves have been maintained by volunteers and of course 470 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 14: the Auckland's early settlers is buried at the chapel. Mills 471 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 14: says that they'll be distress that people can just obliterate 472 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 14: historic significance with no respect respect. 473 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: Why, what's what's the outcome of that? Exactly? 474 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 14: Nothing better us today? 475 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know my sister in law got married in 476 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: that chapel. It is the most beautiful, loveliest, the most 477 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 2: beautiful little church in Aukland. 478 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 14: How is Orchand's weather Well as cloudy, chance of a 479 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 14: shower scattered round developing from the afternoon a little bit warmer. 480 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 14: Sixteen the high. 481 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 2: And I thank you now. The question that we're all wondering, 482 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: like what does more taste like? And the Texas says, 483 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 2: tastes like chicken. Everything tastes like chicken. It depends on 484 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: the source. Clive says, morning Andrew, what a drumstick? Wow, Yes, 485 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: that's true. And Jason writes the statement that mildly killed 486 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: all the mare is technically true. But as you say, 487 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 2: the past eagle will be a threat today. I put 488 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: it to you that the eagle was the reason the 489 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 2: man he killed all the more as it was the 490 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: only way to get rid of the eagle and make 491 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 2: it safe for their children to visit the riverside again. 492 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: All right, it is sixteen to six or the pomp 493 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 2: and ceremony that you could ever hope for happened overnight 494 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: in England as Emmanuel Macron visited the UK for the 495 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: very first time since Brexit. Gavin Gray is in the UK. 496 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: He's next international correspondence with Ensit Eye Insurance Peace of 497 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand Business, Good Oney two. 498 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: It is now thirteen to six, We're off to the UK. 499 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 2: Gavin Gray, Hello, Hi, There, aint pomp and ceremony as 500 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 2: a manual. Macron comes to the UK for the very 501 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 2: first time since two thousand and eight, for the very 502 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: first time since Brexit. 503 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 13: Yes, a three day state visit. The red carpet being 504 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 13: rolled out quite literally. He's just spoken to Parliament saying 505 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 13: that the UK and France have a duty to tackle 506 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 13: illegal migration with humanity, solidarity and firmness. Some people in 507 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 13: this country don't believe France is doing enough to prevent 508 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 13: the small boats from leaving their shores, and the tens 509 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 13: of millions of New Zealand dollars that the UK has 510 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 13: given to France to tackle the problem has simply not 511 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 13: been used for that purpose. Nevertheless, there's a state banquet 512 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 13: at Windsor Castle this evening and so far a great 513 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 13: deal of warmth from all the dignitaries towards Immanuel Macron. 514 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 13: Haven't seen any protests either, and of course the UK 515 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 13: very very keen to be slightly warmer towards Europe under 516 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 13: the new Prime Minister of Sekire Starmership Sirkire Starmer and 517 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 13: his premiership rafter the rather tough brexit use. But there's 518 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 13: another thing. The French are still very very angry at 519 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 13: the ORCA steel the deal between the US, Australia and 520 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 13: the UK over its defense, and the canceling at late 521 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 13: notice of a submarine contract between Australia and France, which 522 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 13: then led to the announcement of ORCAS a short while later. 523 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 13: So a few apologies I think on the way, and 524 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 13: well hopefully some better news for him at home as well. 525 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: It's always slightly evolved with Orcus. And here's the thing. 526 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 2: The Australians went for the deal with America, and then 527 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 2: of course in came Donald Trump, who says, I don't 528 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: really want to worry too much about global global issues 529 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 2: in global pex. So maybe it's all bit of a mess. 530 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: We'll see. Now. Three men have been found guilty of 531 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: an asinatach on a London warehouse and it's got Russian 532 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: mercenaries involved. 533 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 13: Yeah, that's right. So two twenty three year olds and 534 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 13: a twenty year old were found guilty today of aggravated 535 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 13: arson with intent to endanger life at an industrial unit. 536 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 13: The reason it's so important is this particular warehouse the 537 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 13: company sent aid and internet satellite equipment to Ukraine. 538 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 4: So when it. 539 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 13: Suddenly burnt down seemingly without cause, a few eyebrows were 540 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 13: raised and it was said that they A group had 541 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 13: orchestrated this arson attack on behalf of the wagon A 542 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 13: group or the bargainer group, which is of course the 543 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 13: Russian Mercenary group. The UK government has prescribed this group 544 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 13: as a terrorist group, and it was said that roughly 545 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 13: two point three million New Zealand dollars worth of damage 546 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 13: was caused in the attack at the warehouse. But of 547 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 13: course it did mean as well that production also was disrupted, 548 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 13: and that, no doubt is what the Russians were after 549 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 13: all along, not like in the fact that Ukraine was 550 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 13: receiving business and aid from this particular group. It shipped 551 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 13: humanitarian aid and goods to Ukraine, including the so called 552 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 13: Starlink satellite equipment that's crucial for Ukrainian troops as they 553 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 13: work out where the enemy is. And so consequently this 554 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 13: was a bit of a setback, it's thought to that 555 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 13: and a big warning from the Crown Prosecution Service here 556 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 13: that Russia cannot view the UK as some kind of 557 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 13: a soft target with which to do its dirty deals. 558 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: Kevin Gray, out of the UK I thank you so much. 559 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: It's ten minutes two six now. Well I mentioned the fact, 560 00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: by the way, while we're still in the UK, the 561 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: Ringo Star has been looking at the progress of the 562 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: film about him. Remember they're making four films about Ringo 563 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: Star about the Beatles, should I say one about each guys. 564 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: And he's been looking at it and he's been saying 565 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: it's looking really good. The story will be released in 566 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight. He had a few concerns when he 567 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: read about scenes that featured his first wife, Maureen, and 568 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: he still wonders how the films will meet the deadline. 569 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: But here would go Ringo Star happy Now. I forgot 570 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: to say that Monday was Ringo's eighty fifth birthday and 571 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 2: he's looking good. And once again he made his call 572 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: to the world to go outside at midday and shout 573 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: to the world peace and love. I don't know how 574 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 2: many people on Monday actually went out at midday and 575 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: said peace and love. But what I do know is 576 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: that it didn't work. 577 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: Does that be. 578 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: All right? The official cast rate has had six cuts 579 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: in a row. Will this end today? It's wide They 580 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: expected to hit pause, but a cut is not off 581 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: the cards. ANC chief economist Sharon's on has got up 582 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: early for us. Hello Sharon, good morning. Two days ago 583 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: I suggested a cut of twenty five basis points to 584 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: a flat three might give the moribund parts of our 585 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: economy a bit of a g up for summer. Was 586 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: that a silly idea? 587 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 8: No, not at all. In fact, you know we're on 588 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 8: record is saying, actually, we think a cut is justified. 589 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 8: Wouldn't be a bad idea. What we've seen in a 590 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 8: wide range of data actually is that things have just 591 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 8: started to roll over a bit in the last few months. 592 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 8: And in fact, the Reserve Bank's own shiny new toy, 593 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 8: the DVP now indicator, is progesting a chance that GDP 594 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 8: actually i've gone backwards in the last sec three months 595 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 8: of this year. So in our mind that kind of 596 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 8: more than offsets the fact that GDP in the first 597 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 8: three months was stronger than they thought. That we actually 598 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 8: think that matters quite a bit. That momentum is play 599 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 8: failing a little bit at the moment. 600 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: Can we just talk about that. I've been actually watching 601 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: that Reserve back now cast app which is on their website, 602 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: and it gives a real time indication of GDP, and 603 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: it's saying the economy fell back into contraction in the June. 604 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: Is that app accurate? Do you think it's readings are real? 605 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: Are we falling back into contraction? 606 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 8: Well, it's not new and so far as it's just 607 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 8: rolling together all the indicators the Reserve Bank looks at anyway, 608 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 8: but it is kind of in your face, and so 609 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 8: you can't rule out that it might impact the committee 610 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 8: just by the fact that it's not their official GDP forecast. 611 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 8: They have their own forecasters who will take that into account, 612 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 8: but everything else as well. But our own forecast is 613 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 8: kind of zero point one positive. 614 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 2: Sorry, So did you say zero point one? 615 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 8: That's what we're our current forecast for the second quarter 616 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 8: as a positive. 617 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: Let's just call the zero amongst freedom, shall we? 618 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly. I think that's some timely reasonable. 619 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 620 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 8: So it does look like the economy more or less 621 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 8: went nowhere in the last three months that we've just finished. 622 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 2: And do you think they will not do anything today? 623 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 8: Well, they don't have a GDP target, they don't have 624 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 8: an employment target either. They've got an inflation target. And 625 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 8: in May there was one member of the committee who 626 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,959 Speaker 8: felt pretty strongly they shouldn't have cuts back then, and 627 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 8: actually they couldn't reach consensus to cut. They had to 628 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 8: hold a vote, which is actually quite unusual. They do 629 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 8: prefer to all agree a very New Zealand way that 630 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 8: they couldn't. So it's particularly tricky one to call because 631 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 8: they're trying to guess not just what a committee will think, 632 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 8: but ultimately you know, this one holdout. How are they 633 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 8: feeling now? There was a mention in the summary record 634 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 8: of meeting last time that it was concerned about inflation 635 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 8: expectations and inflation generally, that the lingering inflation could come back, 636 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 8: that the members could catch fire again. We can see 637 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 8: why those concerns exists. There's certainly sticky parts of inflation, 638 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 8: but basically in the bigger picture, we think those concerns 639 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 8: will be alleviated rather than will intensify. 640 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 2: Well, Sharon, thank you so much for your advice today. 641 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 2: Certainly it feels like inflation is rested in I mean, 642 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: look at your rates bill, eh it is five to 643 00:32:59,080 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: six to six. 644 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on early edition with ex bowl insulation, keeping 645 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: Kiwi homes warm and try this winter news talks. 646 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: It'd be while talking about the resurrection of the MA. 647 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 2: I'm very upset that absolutely no one listening has taken 648 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: offense at my question. The biggest question of all is 649 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 2: what does it taste like? 650 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 10: Tastes like whale? 651 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 2: You reckon everyone. We'll never know everyone, What do you mean? 652 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 2: We'll never know if they make it. We want to 653 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: eat it. That's the human nature. You got to eat 654 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 2: everything once. 655 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 10: Generations before you're allowed to have you eaten whale. 656 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 13: No. 657 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, but are you sure though, because your face looks 658 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 10: like they're lying right now. 659 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,479 Speaker 2: No, I haven't, I have not. 660 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 10: Okay, good, Well, it will be generations before you're allowed 661 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 10: to try the more so you're not going to be 662 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 10: able to and you're not allowed to try the whale, 663 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 10: so you'll never know. 664 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 2: You're talking about this at seven fifty. 665 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, we are going to be talking about this and 666 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 10: how realistic it is. Also OCR day today probably going 667 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 10: to hold, should cut. 668 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: Yes, I just said that. I just said that. Sharon 669 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: zong I agreed. 670 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 10: Yep, absolutely, but we'll hold, and we'll also talk about AI. 671 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 10: We've got that we're the last country in the developed 672 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 10: will to publish an AI strategy. 673 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 2: Good stuff, great show. Hither and for Mike, I'm Andrew Dickens, 674 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: I'll see it tomorrow. 675 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, Listen live 676 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: to news talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 677 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio