WEBVTT - Autumn weather preview: Why it's not time to farewell warmer days just yet

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<v Speaker 1>Yoda.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Chelsea Daniels and this is the Front Page, a

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<v Speaker 2>daily podcast presented by The New Zealand Herald. It may

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<v Speaker 2>not have felt like we had much of a summer

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<v Speaker 2>this year, but a cold snap in Auckland has signaled

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<v Speaker 2>that the seasons are changing. Temperatures dropped in our biggest

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<v Speaker 2>city as a cold front passed over much of the

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<v Speaker 2>country last week. It comes as cyclone season continues in

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<v Speaker 2>the Pacific, with Cyclone Alfred last week on Australia's East coast.

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<v Speaker 2>With those hot summer nights fading into memory, today on

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<v Speaker 2>the Front Page, we're looking ahead to what autumn and

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the year could bring us with NIWA

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<v Speaker 2>meteorologist Chris Brandolino.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris, if we're just cling.

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<v Speaker 2>On to summer for just a few more minutes. Back

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<v Speaker 2>in December, we were told to expect hotter, drier nights

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<v Speaker 2>over the summer. So did the weather perform as expected?

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<v Speaker 1>I would say mixed results certainly, I think areas in

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<v Speaker 1>the North Island. So if I look back at our

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<v Speaker 1>summer outlook, well we call for equal chances for normal

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<v Speaker 1>or above normal rain for the North Island full stop.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's three regions at the east, the north and

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<v Speaker 1>the west of the North Island, and that didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had dryness for the Upper North Island, dryness

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<v Speaker 1>from the western part of the North Island, so that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work out great there. We had certainly some cooler

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<v Speaker 1>temperatures in January, but when you look at it as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole, I think February made up for that, and

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways December was exceptionally warm. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was the fifth warmest December on record, or top five

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<v Speaker 1>warmest December on record from a national perspective, so I

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<v Speaker 1>would yeah, I would describe it as mixed. Look, the

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<v Speaker 1>airflows didn't go as expected. So when we sit down

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<v Speaker 1>and we assembled these long range outlooks for three months,

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to identify basically themes. You know, what is

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<v Speaker 1>the theme going to be. Just like if you go

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<v Speaker 1>to someone's house for dinner and I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a dinner party and the theme is Italian, Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know exactly what's on the mail, but you have

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<v Speaker 1>an idea. I'd probably be some pasta, there'd be some sauce,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe some pizza, this, that and the other thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're We're not giving you the menu. We're

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<v Speaker 1>giving you these themes. And sometimes those themes look they

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<v Speaker 1>just don't they don't eventuate as expected. We look at guidance,

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<v Speaker 1>and that guidance helps us give insight as to what

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<v Speaker 1>the themes may be. But look, if you go to

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor and you tell the doctor, hey, doc, my

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<v Speaker 1>right arm is killing me. You know, it's just it

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<v Speaker 1>hurts like heck, And okay, let's run some tests through

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<v Speaker 1>some exercises or exams, i should say, and tests and scans,

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<v Speaker 1>and they come back and oh, your right arms fine,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm sorry. Actually is my left leg that's bothering me.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you get bad intel, you're probably gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>bad results or undesirable results. So we had winds coming

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<v Speaker 1>from the east and southeast. We were expecting more east

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<v Speaker 1>to northeast, and the change in airflow had a consequence

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<v Speaker 1>not only on rainfall patterns, but also temperature pattern So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would in summery, I would describe the summer outlook

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<v Speaker 1>as mixed in terms of how it panned out. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw one story last month about Hamilton experiencing an

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<v Speaker 2>unprecedented eleven day streak of hot days.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how unusual is that it is pretty unusual what

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<v Speaker 1>happens oftentimes, particularly later in the season. When I say season,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking summer season, when when the soils become unusually dry,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially the second half of summer. Let's say that

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<v Speaker 1>does tend to favor hotter temperatures because the sun is

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<v Speaker 1>still obviously strong. But that energy, if the soil is

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<v Speaker 1>unusually dry, the energy is not really going to say

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<v Speaker 1>dry the soil or make it dryer. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to heat the ground. So there's energy coming from

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<v Speaker 1>the sun. And if there's moist during the ground, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>of any sensible amount of moisture, a meaningful amount, the

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<v Speaker 1>energy or the heat from the sun is going to

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<v Speaker 1>go toward drying the soils. But the soils are already dry,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do a much better job in actually heating

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<v Speaker 1>the soils. So as a consequence, I think that probably

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<v Speaker 1>was a factor. So, yeah, it is unusual, but I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, given the dryness that they have experienced in

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<v Speaker 1>the Waikato, particularly in parts of well the western and

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<v Speaker 1>central portion of the North Island, it does kind of

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<v Speaker 1>add up in terms of, you know, expectations of temperature

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<v Speaker 1>when you have really dry conditions, you tend to elevate

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<v Speaker 1>the odds for really warm temperatures, and that's what we

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<v Speaker 1>had in February. Certainly in the Waikata was unusually warm.

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<v Speaker 1>Many days. There were many days where temperatures were in

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<v Speaker 1>the upper twenties, even lower thirties in places like Hamilton.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that was certainly a standout for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh. You know, it's interesting timing to go to be

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<v Speaker 3>damned though, on a day where the temperatures are rocketing

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<v Speaker 3>up and a heat wave is actually five days in

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<v Speaker 3>a row above five degrees above the normal temperatures. So

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<v Speaker 3>this is not a heat wave, it's just a burst

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<v Speaker 3>of heat and above normal temperatures. And so whether that

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<v Speaker 3>breaks records or not, you know, we've sometimes gone up

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<v Speaker 3>to thirty degrees in September in this country, So we

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<v Speaker 3>can get a hot northwest thro out of Australia heat off.

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<v Speaker 3>That hot continent comes straight on and goes over the

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<v Speaker 3>mountains and as it does that, as it drops down

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<v Speaker 3>the mountains, that lowering of air pressure means that it

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<v Speaker 3>starts to heat up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's get into autumn. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the country can say that they have experienced some chilly days,

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<v Speaker 2>especially last week.

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<v Speaker 1>What's behind that'll buy airflow? Basically, you know weather and

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<v Speaker 1>weather forecast and in climate forecast and climbate outlooks. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a challenging business. You've got to have thick skin because, look,

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<v Speaker 1>your predictions aren't always going to come as expected or

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<v Speaker 1>as predicted. But in a lot of ways, these things

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<v Speaker 1>can be simple. And that is airflow. Where is the

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<v Speaker 1>air coming from, And over the past couple of days

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<v Speaker 1>and probably for the next several days, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>see a propensity for airflows to come from the south.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a cool wind direction. So that is driving

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<v Speaker 1>not only the cool lean where we have experienced the

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<v Speaker 1>past few days and are going to experience until about

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<v Speaker 1>the middle part of the month, but it's also going

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<v Speaker 1>to drive the dry condition autumn. The days are getting shorter,

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<v Speaker 1>so naturally we're going to get cooler with time. But

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<v Speaker 1>certainly early mid March is closer to summer than it

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<v Speaker 1>is winter. I mean, technically it is still as summer

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<v Speaker 1>from an astronomical perspective until I think the twenty eighth

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<v Speaker 1>or twenty first of March when we have the equinox.

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<v Speaker 1>So some people would still say it's summer, but we

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<v Speaker 1>are still expected to have summer like weather, I would think,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in March. So and answer to your question, it's

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<v Speaker 1>southerly airflows we've had and that is likely to be

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<v Speaker 1>a theme probably for the next I would say weakish.

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<v Speaker 1>But as who work away into say the middle part

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<v Speaker 1>of the month, as we get toward the fifteenth, the fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>the sixteenth, somewhere in there, we're probably going to see

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<v Speaker 1>more northerly quarter winds, so that could be northeast to

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<v Speaker 1>northwest somewhere in between, and that is a warmer wind direction.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think we'll see a decidedly turn where a

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<v Speaker 1>decided turn to warmer than usual temperature. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of summer, you want summer like weather, you

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<v Speaker 1>like going to the beach, you don't want to give

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<v Speaker 1>up summer yet. Hand in there, I think as we

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<v Speaker 1>get to the middle part of the month, into the

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<v Speaker 1>second half of March, quite frankly, that is when we'll

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<v Speaker 1>find those really much warmer temperatures than what we're experiencing now.

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<v Speaker 2>I read in Niewa's weather outlook that overall a mix

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<v Speaker 2>of anti cyclonic flows and easterly quarter flows are expected

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<v Speaker 2>over New Zealand over the autumn season. First off, what

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<v Speaker 2>is an anti cyclonic flow. That's the first time I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever read that in a sentence. So can you break

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<v Speaker 2>that down to us in Layman's steams.

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<v Speaker 1>So, look, when there's cyclonic flows, so cyclonic, think of

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<v Speaker 1>a cyclone. Look, oftentimes when they hear the word cyclone

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<v Speaker 1>in this part of the world, people think of like

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<v Speaker 1>tropical cyclone, like Gabrielle or so the thing tropical cyclone, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>tropical cyclone is just a type of cyclone. There's actually

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<v Speaker 1>various types of cyclone. It just means low pressure. So

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<v Speaker 1>think of cyclone low pressure and low pressure that brings,

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<v Speaker 1>generally speaking, unsettled weather, so cloud cover, rain, snow, that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. The opposite of low pressure is high pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>And so instead of calling that a cyclone, we call

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<v Speaker 1>it an anti cyclone. So basically the opposite, so high

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<v Speaker 1>pressure usually brings settled weather. And when I speak to

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<v Speaker 1>younger people, the kind of the trick I give people

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<v Speaker 1>to remember these things is low pressure means lousy weather.

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<v Speaker 1>High pressure means happy weather. They both began with a

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<v Speaker 1>respective letters, So a nice weather. Remember that high pressure

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<v Speaker 1>is an anti cyclone, anti cyclone, it's just its formal name.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of technical name. So when we say anti

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<v Speaker 1>cyclonic flows, those are flows that would be associated with

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<v Speaker 1>high pressure or happy weather. Airflow around low pressure is

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<v Speaker 1>like a clock in the southern Hemisphere, it goes clockwise. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So think of a clock, so that airflows around that

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<v Speaker 1>low pressure or cyclone like a clockwise Around high pressure

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<v Speaker 1>or an anti cyclone, it flows counterclockwise or anti clockwise,

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<v Speaker 1>so the other way. So when we say anti cyclonic flows,

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<v Speaker 1>that's basically saying, look, high pressure is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>around New Zealand, and the flows that we're expecting are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be flows around or associated with an anti

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<v Speaker 1>cyclone or what's that once again, high pressure happy weather.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of tropical cyclones, we're also in that peak zone,

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<v Speaker 2>aren't We Look at Brisbane with Cyclone Alfred, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>first cyclone to make land for there since nineteen seventy four.

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<v Speaker 2>What are some of the factors that have contributed to

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<v Speaker 2>that event?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, obviously, so the reason this is the peak time

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<v Speaker 1>of year. So when you look at weather history, basically

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<v Speaker 1>late summer through about mid autumn, so think about February

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<v Speaker 1>till about Easter, you know, early mid April somewhere in there.

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<v Speaker 1>That is generally the peak tropical cyclone season, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a reason for that. The ocean temperatures in the tropics

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<v Speaker 1>are typically after peak. Likewise here in New Zealand late February,

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<v Speaker 1>generally speaking, other weather factors in the atmosphere are more

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<v Speaker 1>favorable for tropical cyclones. So all these things come together

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<v Speaker 1>so that allows for tropical cyclones to form, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is the peak of the tropical cyclone season, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the background. So this is really not unusual.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in early March, we're kind of smack dab in

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<v Speaker 1>the heart of the kind of the apex of the

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<v Speaker 1>tropical cyclone season when we expect them the form. What's

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<v Speaker 1>happening in this particular case is that we've had a

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<v Speaker 1>tropical cyclone. It's been in the Coral Sea. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>kind of losing intensity gain an intensity based on its environment.

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<v Speaker 1>Tropical cyclones like certain things. They don't like dry air,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't like ocean temperatures below about twenty six twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven degrees. They actually want warmer ocean temperatures, and they

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<v Speaker 1>like the atmosphere to have a wind profile where there's

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<v Speaker 1>not much change in wind, we call that shear. So

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<v Speaker 1>sheer basically describes the wind changing direction as you travel up,

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<v Speaker 1>say like in a hot air balloon, or if you

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<v Speaker 1>go up in a plane as you're taking off. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's approaching the coast and it's slowing down, and because

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<v Speaker 1>it is slowing down, that could really enhance the rainfall

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<v Speaker 1>in that area. I've been looking at some of the

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<v Speaker 1>latest computer models and look parts of Brisbane, maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>Brisbane proper, like downtown Brisbane, but say the northern suburbs

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, say the Brisbane metropolitan area, particularly northern suburbs.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking maybe a half meter to a meter of

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<v Speaker 1>rain over a two or three day period.

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<v Speaker 4>We would wish to outline to Queenslanders the latest on

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<v Speaker 4>the four key challenges of this weather event, waves, wind,

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<v Speaker 4>rainfall and flooding. What's critical for people to understand across

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<v Speaker 4>the large scale that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're dealing with.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a large area and a large population and it's

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<v Speaker 4>important that we update people on what is occurring. You

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<v Speaker 4>will experience at least one of those key four challenges waves, wind,

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<v Speaker 4>rainfall and or flooding, and it's important that Queenslanders prepare

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<v Speaker 4>for that.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the risk of a cyclone or an X cyclone

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<v Speaker 2>as it normally is for us passing near New Zealand

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<v Speaker 2>this year?

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<v Speaker 1>So this year we've pegged it our normal to elevated.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you look at again weather history, we average

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<v Speaker 1>about er point eight of a tropical cyclone. Now obviously

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<v Speaker 1>either it's kind of binary, you get it or you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>but the average, the long term average is right around

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<v Speaker 1>one because at that point we just rounded to one.

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<v Speaker 1>So that tells us that in any given year we

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<v Speaker 1>would expect at least one X tropical cyclone to come

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<v Speaker 1>about five hundred and fifty k's of the North Island

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<v Speaker 1>of New Zealand. So this year we're describing that risk

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<v Speaker 1>as normal to elevate it. And that's largely because of

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<v Speaker 1>things like La Nina, which is what we call a

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<v Speaker 1>climate driver. So people may be wondering what is a

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<v Speaker 1>climate driver, Well, who's at the steering wheel Mother Nature's car?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's actually driving Mother Nature's car? And if you understand

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<v Speaker 1>who's driving the car, you have a much better idea

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<v Speaker 1>in which direction you're going to go. It's not a guarantee,

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<v Speaker 1>but it certainly helps to paint a picture and help

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<v Speaker 1>identify those themes we talked about when we're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>a long range outlook the next couple of months, the

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<v Speaker 1>next three months, et cetera. And so Linina we identified

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<v Speaker 1>as a climate driver. And this goes back to your

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<v Speaker 1>opening question about summer and how it panned out. We

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<v Speaker 1>did have Linina, but it was a kind of an

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<v Speaker 1>odd ball la nina. La nina generally describes the trade

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<v Speaker 1>winds and the tropical oceans of the Pacific Ocean up

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<v Speaker 1>near the dateline and the equator, or those two meet

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<v Speaker 1>going all the way to the Galopicus Islands in South America.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can imagine that the trade ones actually blow

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<v Speaker 1>much stronger, and that's what happens with Lininia. But when

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<v Speaker 1>the trade winds blow really strong, it really affects where

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<v Speaker 1>there's unusually warm ocean temperatures near the equator and unusually

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<v Speaker 1>cool ocean temperatures. And this year we had unusually cool

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<v Speaker 1>ocean temperatures in areas that we typically don't find your

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<v Speaker 1>quintessential classic Lininia, and as a consequence, that meant we

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<v Speaker 1>had different airflows in New Zealand. What happens in the

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<v Speaker 1>tropics actually has flowing effects here in New Zealand, and

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<v Speaker 1>we call that a teleconnection. It's something that happens far

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<v Speaker 1>away but can still influence our local weather. And that

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<v Speaker 1>happens with Linina and it happens with El Nino, and

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<v Speaker 1>those are two opposite phases of what we call enso

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<v Speaker 1>e Nso it just means El Nino Southern oscillation, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it is. It's an oscillation between a warm

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<v Speaker 1>face Elmino in a coal phase La Nina. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So, finally, Chris, if we get out your crystal bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>what about the rest of the year. Do we know

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<v Speaker 2>anything yet about what twenty twenty five may hold for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I'll say. Let's start with autumn and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>kind of encapsul ate autumn. You have to think of

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<v Speaker 1>weather as Mother Nature's mood, and you think of climate

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<v Speaker 1>as Mother Nature's personality. When we give you these long

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<v Speaker 1>range outlooks, we're attempting to describe Mother Nature's personality over

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<v Speaker 1>the next three months. And there will be days when

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<v Speaker 1>Mother Nature's mood is incongruent with her personality. That is expected,

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<v Speaker 1>But generally speaking, we think you know the flavor will

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<v Speaker 1>be they generally will be aligned. So that said, for

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<v Speaker 1>those that need the rain, and that is areas like Tetanaki,

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<v Speaker 1>areas like the Manawatu, areas like the Waikato, Unfortunately, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be very dry for the next few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think for areas like Tetanaki and Manawatu it

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<v Speaker 1>may be a dry through the autumn season. So if

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be dryness for the next three months,

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<v Speaker 1>it's likely to be in the western part of both island.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's going to be any wetness this autumn season,

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<v Speaker 1>again as a whole, it'll be likely the eastern part

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<v Speaker 1>of Both island. Now, in terms of temperature, we think

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a warm, lean pretty much everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>We feel most confident in areas not named the Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>North Island and not named the Eastern South Island, So

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<v Speaker 1>those two parts of the country, Eastern North and Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>South Island, because the area is likely to come off

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean more times than not. That's an easterly wind.

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<v Speaker 1>We think about normal, average or above average, so somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in that kind of spectrum of average to above average.

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<v Speaker 1>So what does this mean for you? You're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this and like, that's great, Chris, you just talked a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what it means. It means that there are days

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<v Speaker 1>where we're likely to be more summer like than usual,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in March, so perhaps days, more days at the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>Who can maybe extend summer a bit longer. It means

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<v Speaker 1>if you're on tank water those dry areas that we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about, or the risk for dry areas, you could

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<v Speaker 1>be calling someone to fill up your tank because mother

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<v Speaker 1>nature is not doing it. If you're farmer, if you

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<v Speaker 1>just or have a large garden, that may be a

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<v Speaker 1>big impact for you for getting irregular or unreliable rainfall.

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<v Speaker 1>So it basically means we could have a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of an extension of summer as you progress through March

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<v Speaker 1>and April. I think as we get toward April and May,

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<v Speaker 1>we are looking at increasing the odds for getting more rain,

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<v Speaker 1>especially Western South Island. Right now, it's been very dry

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<v Speaker 1>in the Western South Island. That's bad news because their

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<v Speaker 1>hydro catchments are down there. Those hydro catchments, keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>they generate a lot of our electricity, so when they

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<v Speaker 1>get really low that can affect electricity prices and the

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<v Speaker 1>overall electricity market. It does look like it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be quite dry for the next week to ten days,

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<v Speaker 1>but we shouldn't get some meaningful rain in that area

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<v Speaker 1>over the next, say, middle part of the month. But

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<v Speaker 1>as we get toward winter, going even the route, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say this not a colder than usual winter. The odds

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<v Speaker 1>would probably favor warmer than usual conditions. We're getting quite early.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not our official outlook quite yet, but it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like those airflows, remember I talked about its all

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<v Speaker 1>about airflows. It looks like those airflows may favor the

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<v Speaker 1>east and northeast for the winter season. And if if

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<v Speaker 1>that happens, well, look at east and northeast wind. That

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get you to Antarctica, does it. You need a

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<v Speaker 1>southerly So if you don't have a lot of southerly winds,

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<v Speaker 1>you just ain't gonna get that cold. Of course, it

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<v Speaker 1>gets cooler because our days get shorter. But in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of what is usual, it looks like it may be

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<v Speaker 1>a warmer than usual winter. We'll see if that happens,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looks like we may start to get better

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<v Speaker 1>chances of raying for the Upper North Island as we

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<v Speaker 1>work away to the end of autumn May and into

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<v Speaker 1>winter June, July, and August. We'll hope so because it's

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<v Speaker 1>been very dry for the Upper North Island. And then

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<v Speaker 1>after that, boy, you want to talk about spring and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe next summer. We're watching for a potential second Linina.

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<v Speaker 1>So Lininia right now is waning, and which is typical.

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<v Speaker 1>We expect Lonina to come to lose it giddy up

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<v Speaker 1>as you work away into the autumn season down in

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<v Speaker 1>the Southern Hemisphere. No La Nina or for that matter,

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<v Speaker 1>El Nino's average. They all have their own personality and

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<v Speaker 1>their own footprint.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining us, Chris. That's it for this episode

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